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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my bes friend Mike Harmon. Get the fours Up.

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Speaker 1: Get the fours up for Bill Belichick. He did not

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Speaker 1: make the Pro Football Hall of Fame today the biggest

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Speaker 1: shocking story despite the fact an NFL record of three

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three wins, one hundred and seventy eight losses,

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Speaker 1: eight Super Bowls total, twelve appearances in Super Bowls did

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Speaker 1: not make Pro Football Hall of Fame. Many were shocked

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Speaker 1: and now we pushed the story forward. Where do we

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Speaker 1: go from here? With Belichick not getting the votes to

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Speaker 1: get in. We have seen many NFL luminaries talk about

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Speaker 1: how they want to know who the voters were that

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Speaker 1: didn't vote for Bill Belichick. Right, Jimmy Johnson, like Jimmy Johnson,

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Speaker 1: formerly a Fox Super Bowl champion with the Cowboys, said

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Speaker 1: I want to know who the blanks are that didn't

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Speaker 1: vote for Bellichie is displeased, would be the kind way

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Speaker 1: to say it. And now you have a discrepancy going

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Speaker 1: on between some of the voters, right. John McLain, longtime voter, said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know the people who didn't vote for him making

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Speaker 1: us look bad. You know, maybe we should find out

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Speaker 1: who these voters are. Wait, the guy from die Hard

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Speaker 1: weight in, Yes, he wiged in. He said, get out

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Speaker 1: to know who voted and didn't vote for Belichick. Uh,

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Speaker 1: come on, Hans. And then you have Gary Myers the

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Speaker 1: New York Daily News, also a Pro Football Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame voter, who put out a tweet tonight saying, what's

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Speaker 1: the purpose served of finding out who it was for

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Speaker 1: us that that didn't vote for Belichick for the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame? Now he voted for Belichick, He says, what

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Speaker 1: purpose would this serve?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What does it matter? My I can disagree with the

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Speaker 1: other voters about Belichick getting into the Hall of Fame. Well,

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Speaker 1: you like to know who you're calling an idiot. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, if that's the cut of your jip rights,

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Speaker 1: if that's where you want to take the argument, you

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Speaker 1: want to and you always want to know your enemy.

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Speaker 1: So and that's that's the reason why I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're going to find out anybody. You're not going to

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Speaker 1: find out who anybody is that didn't vote for Belichick

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Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. One think about this already,

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Speaker 1: you have voters who voted for Belichick differing with wanting

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Speaker 1: the votes to come out. Sure, I know what's come out.

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Speaker 1: We always say this when a vote happens, and it's

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Speaker 1: you have to lose your vote if you didn't vote

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Speaker 1: for each ro for the Hall of Fame, Let's find

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Speaker 1: out who that was. Guess what, we never found out

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Speaker 1: who it was. Why if the person came forward, they'd

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Speaker 1: worry about their vote getting taken away from them. So

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Speaker 1: you tell me anybody if And that's nothing compared to

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Speaker 1: what this is for Belichick. This is so many people

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Speaker 1: saying who didn't vote for who is this? First of all,

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Speaker 1: why would you come out and say I didn't vote

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Speaker 1: for him? If basically people are going to push to

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Speaker 1: get your vote taken away. No, you work a long

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Speaker 1: time to get in and vote for the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. You cover the NFL for a long

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Speaker 1: ass time. Rich Samini of the New York Post his

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Speaker 1: first year voting for the Hall of Fame. He's covered

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Speaker 1: the NFL for thirty years. He's covered the Jets for

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Speaker 1: thirty years. You should get all kinds of stuff for

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Speaker 1: you do that. Nobody's in it for clicks. No one's

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Speaker 1: younger generations would go, Okay, maybe they're ready it for clicking. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not what these people are. They're in it because

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Speaker 1: Number one, I don't know why anybody would come forward

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Speaker 1: former head coaches, former players for everybody, how does Belichick

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you come out and you have

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Speaker 1: for him? And you and I can make a great argument.

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Speaker 1: I could say, listen, now, look I told you Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick's Hall of Famer. But say I'm playing someone who

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Speaker 1: didn't vote for Belichick, I would say this. I would say, well,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get past the cheating. I couldn't get past it.

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Speaker 1: It was too difficult because Spygate really nearly ruined the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You had a new commissioner coming in that covered up this,

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Speaker 1: this NFL crime, and Bill Belichick wouldn't have been doing

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Speaker 1: this if he didn't get a great benefit of it.

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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, his run when he wasn't

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Speaker 1: a great head coach the first time with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: suddenly he's a great head coach. And you go back

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Speaker 1: to the first Super Bowl that he won with a

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Speaker 1: Rams said, Hey, they were filming our walkthrough because somehow

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Speaker 1: that game. How did they know that? That's a That's

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Speaker 1: a big red flag to me. And the fact they

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Speaker 1: So I know that what Belichick did and and Spygate,

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Speaker 1: which was an illegal cheating scandal, had a big impact

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Speaker 1: on them winning super Bowls and him winning six super

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Speaker 1: now I question how many they won legitimately. I can't

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Speaker 1: get past the cheating right now. You could agree or

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Speaker 1: someone who didn't vote for Belichick could make. But it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter because everybody who's saying, how is Belichick not

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? They all know about Spygate, right,

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Speaker 1: they all know about the flate gate, they all know

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Speaker 1: how he treated the press, They all know about all

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Speaker 1: these things. They clearly don't care. Jimmy Johnson doesn't care. Right,

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Speaker 1: other people, they don't care. They know what your argument's

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Speaker 1: would tell you this again, reason number two, Why would

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Speaker 1: well thought out, intelligent objection overruled. No one's gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, you're stupid, you should lose your vote.

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Speaker 1: How do you do this? This is not your job

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Speaker 1: to debate whether or not someone is qualified enough for

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Speaker 1: vote for him. I'm going to try to make sure

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Speaker 1: Third reason, Think about all these voters, right, they all

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Speaker 1: have to weather a storm now, right because they are,

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Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a big push for a little

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Speaker 1: while and why Bill Belichick is not in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. This is going to go through the next

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, Trummer. We have NFL honors, we have

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Speaker 1: the class is going to be announced. So this is

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Speaker 1: because what's gonna happen if suddenly after this gets out,

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Speaker 1: Let's say the twelve people, eleven people, whoever was people

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Speaker 1: You should have really voted for for Sam Donold for

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Speaker 1: Clearly, you've done it once, you can do it again.

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Speaker 1: So there's no win for anybody to know this. And

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna go well for the voters, not well

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Speaker 1: Put it all in a giant pie and bake it.

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Speaker 1: All of it comes back to the are you gonna

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Speaker 1: vote for him next year? Or is it a three

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Speaker 1: Like what are we talking? Are you eventually going to

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Speaker 1: And sure there's always in the hot take nonsense possibility

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with ma a best friend Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 1: where the biggest story of the day. Bill Belichick did

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Speaker 1: Shocker again. The story has spread like wildfire throughout the night.

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Speaker 1: There literally is nobody better to talk to about this

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Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, all right, I had so in the process

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Speaker 3: Right, we go through the presentations, you are required to

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Speaker 1: Jason colepol Football Hall of what's the Mike Mobile? No,

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Speaker 1: I get it, No, I get it. And you know

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Speaker 1: the pro football thing. Yeah, some people vote with agendas

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Speaker 1: and reasons and I'm I'm not going to put you

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Speaker 1: in because I have a problem here, and maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: vote for you next year. But I'm not voting for

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Speaker 1: you now.

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Speaker 3: There are things that I have thought about in reaction

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Speaker 3: to certain you know, like, I'll just lay it out

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Speaker 3: the way that Warrens acted after he was on the

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Speaker 3: ballot the first year that I voted, so since thirteen

439
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Speaker 3: or fourteen years, I don't know whatever it was. And

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Speaker 3: he was such a jerk afterwards after he got it,

441
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Speaker 3: not because he was talking about himself, but because he

442
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Speaker 3: was ragging on Mike's drag hand. I was like, you

443
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Speaker 3: know what if you're that much of a jerk, and

444
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Speaker 3: it's not a jerk to me because you're just generally

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Speaker 3: a jerk. And Warren's absolute of the biggest ones in

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Speaker 3: the history of this league.

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Speaker 5: You know, if it's close, I might I might choose

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Speaker 5: somebody else. It has to be close, right, and there

449
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Speaker 5: has to be a good reason. It has to be researched.

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Speaker 5: And so when Po came up and he finished eighth

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Speaker 5: on my annual survey, I was like, well, not a

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Speaker 5: lot of people, not a lot of people who worked

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Speaker 5: in the NFL are just thinking's no doubt. I'm a

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Speaker 5: surprise he finished dates And then I looked at the

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Speaker 5: other Cannon's like this is close, and I voted for

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Speaker 5: him to get to the round to ten, and it

457
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Speaker 5: was the to get down.

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Speaker 3: To you know, I don't know if he made it

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Speaker 3: past the ten, but I didn't vote for the second round.

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Speaker 5: And so you wann't call.

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Speaker 3: That an agenda, or do you wan't call that a

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Speaker 3: life experience that you know, a guy who who's treated

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Speaker 3: other people very poorly. It may not be as much

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Speaker 3: of a Hall of Famer as everybody thinks based on

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Speaker 3: what people in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Say, is that is that an agenda?

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Speaker 3: Some people may say that I'll say this, I voted

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Speaker 3: for t O in the second year, and I certainly

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Speaker 3: voted for him in the third year when he made it,

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Speaker 3: you know, so you know, I didn't think that he

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Speaker 3: should be kept out. And if he had made it

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Speaker 3: in his first year, that would have been that would

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Speaker 3: have been perfectly reasonable. He was. He had the stats

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Speaker 3: to back it up.

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Speaker 1: No, you say of keeping out for Drew Pearson when

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Speaker 1: you went on the cowboys rampage of getting Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I did not get a chance to.

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Speaker 3: I tried.

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Speaker 1: I tried so hard stall back out. Yeah, you tried

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Speaker 1: to get all those cowboys retro actively trying to restart

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Speaker 1: that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Lily Lily out, Lily rand White out.

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Speaker 1: So Roger Craig, Well, it's the matter. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: this is a great story for for Smith because he

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Speaker 1: gets gleeful today because yesterday I had to keep picking

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Speaker 1: him up because he was all despondent that Sam Darnold

487
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Speaker 1: is going to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Damn, that's a beautiful story from the ashes destroy his career,

489
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Speaker 3: nearly destroyed by Gang Green.

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Speaker 5: And Woody Johnson continues to try.

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Speaker 3: And destroy the team, like, let's fire a bunch of

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Speaker 3: guys after all the good Assistance have been ticked off already.

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Speaker 3: What I'm massimple thing that is like, oh it's two

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Speaker 3: weeks after, three weeks after, Oh yeah, let's start firing

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Speaker 3: assistance now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't see any dummer.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't say anything to that as Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: had to bring them back down gay anything. But back

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Speaker 1: back into the committee meetings as they go through. Did

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Speaker 1: do you find as you're what you say thirteen fourteen years,

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Speaker 1: are they more contentious these days?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 3: It's not really contentious. I think it's an intelligent discussion.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are some point are there some pointed

506
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Speaker 3: remarks and people get you know, get their the hair

507
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Speaker 3: up on the back of the neck occasionally a little bit. Sure,

508
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Speaker 3: what a bunch of old dudes. There ain't that much energy, man,

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Speaker 3: What are you going to have? Like you know, John McClain,

510
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Speaker 3: you know Rady to blow up against Gary Myers, like.

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Speaker 5: You really that's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: That'd be fun, it'd be really fun. My money's on McLean.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Marshall feisty. I give him, but but I

514
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Speaker 3: think I think he can get dropped around. Well.

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Speaker 1: The first I thought you were going to come in

516
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, Samini, did you vote for Belichick?

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Speaker 4: To me?

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Speaker 3: Get me was to me the first year, the first

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Speaker 3: year as a as a voter.

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Speaker 5: So I said, I did that.

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Speaker 3: Now crawled back and he goes, I cover witty, Lord, he.

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Speaker 1: Was really looking forward to this, bro. So let me

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Speaker 1: ask you this now. Now, so you have to get

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Speaker 1: to talking.

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Speaker 3: About good players. The first time in a long.

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Speaker 1: Time you had, you had eleven people not vote, and

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Speaker 1: there's a big push, hey, in a week for people

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Speaker 1: to defend their votes and come out and talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that happens? Do we find out the

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Speaker 1: identity of some people who didn't vote.

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Speaker 3: For him have no idea, aw same. I don't want

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Speaker 3: to talk about other people, what they say, what they do,

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Speaker 3: that's not it's not for me to do that. I'm

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Speaker 3: not to talk about what said in the meaning other

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Speaker 3: than do you do you think.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna are gonna make their votes public? The

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Speaker 1: people who didn't vote for him will make their votes

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Speaker 1: public and talk about it and defend it. Or is

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Speaker 1: this going to be like, hey, we're looking for the

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Speaker 1: guy that didn't vote for each row, and after a

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Speaker 1: couple of days we forget about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't know. Maybe one or

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Speaker 3: two people, you know, I don't know. I think that

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Speaker 3: people get vilified for voting their conscious and I don't

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Speaker 3: think that that's necessarily fair. I do. I respect the

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Speaker 3: Baseball Writer's process where guys do publish their votes, and

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be afraid to publish what my votes are.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I don't know what other people are thinking,

549
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Speaker 3: so I don't want to go there. You know, I

550
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Speaker 3: work with these people I like. I like almost all

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Speaker 3: of them. Well, I don't know some of them, like

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Speaker 3: I've never I've never had dinner with Lisa Saulters. She

553
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Speaker 3: seems like a very nice woman and she's I've talked

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Speaker 3: to her a couple of times on the phone, but

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Speaker 3: you know, she I wouldn't like I don't, you know,

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Speaker 3: like we don't have any kind of like an kind

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Speaker 3: of personal relationship or anything like that, you know, And

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Speaker 3: that's a meaning, that's a whole different thing because I

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Speaker 3: walked up, but you know, every.

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Speaker 5: Time I see him, and but yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 5: respect the people are on this channel.

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Speaker 3: They know a lot of stuff about football, They've worked

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Speaker 3: really hard at it.

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Speaker 5: And do some of them have opinions that.

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Speaker 3: I disagree with? Sure?

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Speaker 5: Do I have opinions that.

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Speaker 3: They disagree with. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you on a level of one

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Speaker 1: to ten, with one being hey, this is something that

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Speaker 1: we can deal with and and and work on, it'll

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Speaker 1: go away, and ten being this is an epic sale,

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Speaker 1: like where where do you put Belichick not getting in

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Speaker 1: to the whole Hall of Fame scale?

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Speaker 3: Did these go to eleven? Woo's wow, that's just I mean,

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00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 3: GOLs me goals me again. I think he's the most qualified.

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Speaker 3: We talked about twenty different people. Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald,

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Speaker 3: Lou Kickley Marshall.

578
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Speaker 5: Yanda talked about the other you know.

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Speaker 3: Tory Holt, Reggie Wayne, some really great players, none of them.

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Speaker 3: And you can you can say all you want about Oh,

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Speaker 3: he had to have Tom Brady.

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Speaker 5: You're right, Most coaches have to good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: That's how it works. You get to the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame and the coattails are your players. If Paul Brown

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Speaker 3: never had Auto Bram, we don't know about all of

586
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Speaker 3: his great inventions, right, you just don't. Okay, that's just

587
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Speaker 3: that works. Don Sheula went from Uniteds to Greasy to Marino.

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Speaker 3: That man's life was blessed, Okay, with three Hall of

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00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: Fame quarterbacks. That's how it works.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So.

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00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: Maybe that was something that people held against him. But

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Speaker 3: my bottom.

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Speaker 5: Line is you got eight Super Bowl rings, you got.

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Speaker 3: Twelve appearances over the last fifty years. The road to

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl usually goes through Bill Belichicket. And that's

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Speaker 3: not any kind of overstatement. That is exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: And this man has done an amazing amount of work

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Speaker 3: to bring the game along. And yes, because he's done

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Speaker 3: some things to embarrass the game, yes, but I know

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Speaker 3: the history of this league. Al Davis cheated George Allis cheated. Okay,

601
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Speaker 3: lots of great coaches, but the rules as far as camp.

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Speaker 3: My favorite one about Al Davis. He pretended to be

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Speaker 3: a reporter after a game between the Chargers and other

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Speaker 3: team and he went.

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Speaker 5: Up to Atlance.

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Speaker 3: Allworth and said, hey, can you design right down your

607
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Speaker 3: favorite plays that you'd like to run?

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Speaker 5: And Sam Gilman shouted at the top of.

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Speaker 3: His ones, al, get away from my player.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter. Can't for trying, you can't not true?

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Speaker 3: And want more about that. Don Sheila halftime of the

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Speaker 3: game at the University of California, asked Amy Trask about

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Speaker 3: this one. She'd get the great line. Okay, She'll was

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Speaker 3: screaming at the light fixture, Al, I know you're listening,

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Speaker 3: and Amy would will quote Al saying it wasn't in

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Speaker 3: the light.

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voter j Cole has always appreciated your time,

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Speaker 1: my friend. We'll talk to you next week. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: Later.

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Speaker 1: That was Jason Cole from earlier tonight Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame voter. Can you write down the plays you

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Speaker 1: like to run? What are your favorite vote? What do

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Speaker 1: you want. What can you script your first fifteen for me?

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00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Let me know what you like? Well, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: never know if you can get the information if you

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Speaker 1: don't ask. Great insight from Jason Cole taking you inside

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Speaker 1: the uh the Pro Football Hall of Fame, the non

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Speaker 1: vote for Belichick, how embarrassed he is? Big big stuff there. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you missed it, you want to catch it. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna go up on our Best of Podcasts, gets posted

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Speaker 1: right after the show is over iTunes. Just search our name,

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. You will get that again

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Speaker 1: posted right after the show is over. Time. How to

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Speaker 1: find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.

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Speaker 1: A guy who's been called the Al Davis of Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio, don't you dare because he's once impersonated a reporter.

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Speaker 1: It's Steve the same.

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Speaker 6: I've actually I like, hell, I've actually been on. I

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Speaker 6: actually sat in front of l at a Monday night

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Speaker 6: football game, you know the Charger Stadium when they were

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Speaker 6: in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: It was so old they didn't.

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Speaker 6: Have a separate place for visiting royalty like Al Davis

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Speaker 6: and his henchman to go sit, and so he was

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Speaker 6: actually seated in the third row right behind me. I

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Speaker 6: could hear him the whole game. You know, Jeff Hostetler

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Speaker 6: was late coming out of the huddle, and I'm here

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Speaker 6: and Al behind me.

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Speaker 1: What is he doing?

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Speaker 3: What is he doing?

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing? And then he said the guy

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Speaker 1: in front of me must sit down, and he must

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Speaker 1: sit down hawk because I can't see. He must it down,

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Speaker 1: sit down. I just like that. He called them the

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Speaker 1: henchman of his associates or underlings or.

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Speaker 6: They were associates. Yes, they were quote family, you might

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Speaker 6: even say.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 6: By halftime, Al is literally grabbing a little napkin or

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Speaker 6: a piece of paper and drawing notes on it for

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Speaker 6: somebody to run down to the coach at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Actually, that's awesome. We got a lot of NFL news

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Speaker 1: to get to.

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Speaker 6: But first off, with the time change, Australian Open quarterfinals

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Speaker 6: going on right now, and Novak Djokovic has dropped the

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Speaker 6: first two sets to five seed Lorenzo Musetti. They're in

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Speaker 6: the third on the lady's side quarterfinal wins for number

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Speaker 6: six seed Jessica Bagoula sweeping fellow American Amanda Aisimova and

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Speaker 6: number five Elena Rebaken advance with an upset victory in

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Speaker 6: straight sets over Number two Egos Fiontek.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific