1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Blue 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Big Day. Bake you at podcast KI Morning. It's Monday, 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: the third of November. I'm Caroline Hepkot in London. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carolin Brussels. Coming up today. Oil prices 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: rise as OPEC Plus announces plans to pause output increases 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 2: for the start of next year. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: The UK's Chancellor, Rachel Reeves considers a range of tax 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: hikes targeting the country's wealthiest. 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: Plus how China's efforts to unlock a huge African iron 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: ore deposit risk upending the global market. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: The price of oil has risen for a fourth day 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: after OPEK Plus announced plans to pause output increases at 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: the start of next year. The group and its allies 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: say they'll raise production by about one hundred and thirty 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: seven thousand barrels a day in December before taking a 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: break from January to March. The move comes as market 18 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: contends with growing concerns about oversupply that have driven the 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: price of brand down by around ten percent over the 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: past three months. Here's the view of vandanah Hari, a 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Vander Insights. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: We are probably in an oversupply situation, but how much 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: over supply, I think the jury is still out on that. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 3: And on the flip side, you have supply risk premium. 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: We just come back in a major way into the 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: market after the US and EU sanctions on Russia a 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 28 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Ago, Vandana Harry referring there to sanctions on Russian oil exporters. 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: As traders tell Bloomberg, the restrictions are now prompting Chinese 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 2: refiners to avoid shipments from the country. 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Here in the UK, a thirty two year old man 32 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: is being held on suspicion of attempted murder after a 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: mass stabbing attack on a train over the weekend. The 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: attack happens on a high speed service from Doncaster to London, 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: leaving eleven people in hospital and some with life threatening injuries. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: The train was stopped at Huntington in Cambridgeshire. Audrey McAdam 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: is the town's mayor. 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 4: This is just out of my mind. I'm totally out 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: of it at the moment. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: say I cannot think straight at the moment. It's something. 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: It's a horror film, complete horror. 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: Audrey McAdam speaking there as Police say that the motive 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: for the attack remains unclear. Authorities say there is nothing 44 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: to suggest it was terrorism related. 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: The Chancellor of Rachel Reeves could target the country's wealthiest 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: with exit and mansion taxes in her upcoming budget. The 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: measures are on a long list of possible options being 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: considered by the Treasury to fill the fiscal hole. AR 49 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: Chief UK economist Dan Hansen says the Chancellor faces a 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: challenging outlook. 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: I think Rachel Reeves listening to her her rhetoric around 52 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: this budget. She's very conscious of the inflation story now 53 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 5: and I think probably in hindsight, wouldn't have gone through 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 5: with some of the policies she went through in October 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: last year in the budget last year because there has 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: been an inflationary impact. 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's chief UK economist Dan Hansen there Bloomberg understands that 58 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: the Chancellor will only decide which tax risers to implement 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: once she receives the final fiscal forecast from the Budget watchdog. 60 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: The Bank of England is expected to hold interest rates 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: at four percent on Thursday, slowing the pace of policy 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: easing that it began last August. 63 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: Now US President Donald Trump has threatened military action against 64 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Islamist extremists in Nigeria. In a post to his Truth 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: social platform on Saturday, Trump also threatened an immediate cutoff 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: in aid to Africa's most populous nation. The move comes 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,279 Speaker 1: after the US present said that he was designating Nigeria 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: a Country of Particular Concern because of worries about the 69 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: safety of Christians. This was last week. Nigerian President to 70 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: Bolah Ahmed Tinubu rejected President Trump's criticism, saying on social 71 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: media the country is a democracy governed by constitutional guarantees 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: of religious liberty. Tinubu has been under pressure this year 73 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: from a rising Islamist insurgency in northeastern Nigeria. 74 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: China will effectively suspend the implementation of new export controls 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: on rare earth metals and end investigations into American companies 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: in the semiconductor's supply chain. The White House issued a 77 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: fact sheet over the weekend with some details of the 78 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: trade pack degreed last week by Presidents Donald Trump and Chootingping. 79 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: Both. 80 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant has warned that Washington must 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: still be cautious. 82 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 6: I think and I hope after the agreement and the 83 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 6: good will between President She and President Trump in Korea 84 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 6: that we can depend on them to be more reliable partners, 85 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 6: and the rest of the world can depend on them, 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 6: but we can't take their chance. We don't want to 87 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 6: decouple with China, but we're going to have to. 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: Do risk, the US Treasury Secretary Scott Besslon speaking there. Meanwhile, 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: China's manufacturing activity expanded less than forecast in October, according 90 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: to a private survey, adding to concerns about the economy's 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: slowing momentum. 92 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: Now to European companies, which are proving surprisingly resilient, with 93 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: their results showing that they're navigating US tariffs a lot 94 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: better than anticipated. Bloomberg's Mihul Kubala has more Now. 95 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 7: It turns out tariffs aren't biting European exporters as hard 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 7: as many feared. A Goldman Sachs basket of stocks most 97 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 7: exposed to the American levies, names like BMW Ordidas jumped 98 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 7: six percent in October, double that of the broader stocks 99 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 7: six hundred. Some firms, including Hermez and Unilever, even credited 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 7: sales growth in the United States for their ability to 101 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 7: beat estimates the optimism is showing up in forecasts. Bloomberg 102 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 7: Intelligence data shows earnings on u ro's key benchmark could 103 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 7: grow by double digits next year. In Brussels, Michalcobola, Bloomberg Radio. 104 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: And simbreaking earnings news this morning. Profits at Ryanair beat 105 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: expectations in their second quarter after tax figures came in 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: at one point seven two billion euros versus expectations of 107 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: one point sixty seven billion euros. Passenger numbers for the 108 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: first half of the year we're broadly in line with 109 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: expectations at one hundred and nineteen million. Ryaner now sees 110 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 2: its fully aar customer numbers at two hundred and seven million. 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: That's an increase from its last forecast of two hundred 112 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: and six million, slightly above what markets were expecting. 113 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: And those are our top stories for you this morning. Well, 114 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: November in the market begins with some gains for stocks. 115 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: We have the All country World Index up by tenth 116 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: of one percent. We've also got stock futures for Europe 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: up two tens and US stock futures also pointing higher. 118 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Oil has been gaining a six tens of one percent 119 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: half of break creed futures at sixty five dollars eighteen 120 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: the bow after the OPEC plus decision over the weekend. 121 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: US yields are steady this morning at four sports zero 122 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: seven For the ten year. Gold has been fluctuating, but 123 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: currently it is up by three tenths of one percent. 124 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Iron ore and copper are down on concerns about China's 125 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: economic outlook, and the dollar this morning on the Bloemboog 126 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Dollar Sport Index is weaker a tenth of one percent. 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: Those are the markets. 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: In a moment will bring you more on OPEC plus's 129 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: latest moves on oil supplies, plus what a massive new 130 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: iron ore mine in Guinea means for the global market 131 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: and for the country's economy. But another story that we've 132 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: been reading this morning the season finale of The Great 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: British Breakoff as tomorrow in case you didn't have it 134 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: already marked in your diaries, and our colleague Georgia Hall 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: has been writing about one of the many side industries 136 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: that have sprung up around this TV show, and that's betting. 137 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: She writes about the vast and potentially lucrative online betting 138 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: market that exists around the series. Apparently there you can 139 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: get odds and everything from who will get a handshake 140 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: from Paul Hollywood one of the judges, who will win 141 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: the technical challenge, and of course who's going to win 142 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: the overall show at the end as well. Apparently there's 143 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: been quite a shift in odds as the series goes on. 144 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: I love cake, don't get me wrong, but I'm quite 145 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: amused by this ballooning betting story that seems a bit 146 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: sort of harder to swallow. I wonder who is it 147 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: out there who's betting on cake baking. I don't know. 148 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: I always am a little more concerned about in the 149 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: UK just how many people are betting. The big survey 150 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: that came out earlier this month of betting a lot 151 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: of people two point seven percent of people in the 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: UK have got a betting problem apparently. But anyway, cake 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: is perhaps a more fun side to betting, maybe, yeah. 154 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's the difference as well with this 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: market which is only growing in the US because of 156 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: course betting markets have only opened up in recent years 157 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: as well. So it's very interesting to watch it. It's 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: playing it in different sides of the Atlantic as well. 159 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Quite a problem betting on this program because it's pre 160 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: recorded as well, so people could have insider knowledge as 161 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: to who has actually won, but it is being seen 162 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: as sort of a community building around a Matchlove TV 163 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: show as well as he can rejoin his peace at 164 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: Bloomberg dot com and we'll put a Linkdage in our 165 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: podcast show notes. 166 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the oil markets. They face a 167 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: great deal of uncertainty. Crude prices have been falling this 168 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: year and on paper, there is expected to be a 169 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: big supply glot next year. So on Sunday, Plus said 170 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: that it plans to pause increases in output from its 171 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: members for the first quarter of next year. Stephen Stepchinski 172 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: leads our team covering energy in Asian He joins us 173 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: now for more. Stephen, good morning. What is OPEC's strategy 174 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: because there is usually a gap between the quotas what 175 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: they say they're going to do and then what is 176 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 1: actually produced. 177 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 8: No, that's correct, Actually, so the OPEC Plus has been 178 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 8: increasing output for much of this year, actually more than 179 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 8: the market was expecting them to in terms of what 180 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 8: they're saying on paper. Now, you're right, in reality, they're 181 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 8: not always hitting those targets. Some country are struggling to 182 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 8: increase their output to hit that level. In fact, one 183 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 8: of the few countries that can actually really meaningfully increase 184 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 8: output and has a lot of spare capacity is Saudi Arabia, 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 8: the de facto leader of OPEK itself. Now, in terms 186 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 8: of what happened with this meeting, I think one thing 187 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 8: is is Russia. Russia is a member of OPEK plus, 188 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 8: and just recently we had the Trump administration slap sanctions 189 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 8: on two of the largest exporters that was ross neftin 190 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 8: look oil, and then we have the stories from last 191 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 8: week and then this week about Indian buyers and Chinese 192 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 8: buyers who traditionally were buying Russian oil. They're they're looking 193 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 8: at perhaps shifting their supply away from the sanctioned barrels 194 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 8: in order to avoid any sort of hit from from 195 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 8: the West or from the US for importing uh that oil. 196 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 8: And so because of that, it is likely seen that 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 8: maybe Russia in the OPEK plus meetings had pushed for 198 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 8: a pause because they're unable to increase their output, especially 199 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 8: if at the moment buyers are kind of scrambling to 200 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 8: move elsewhere. Now this could be digested, Maybe there will 201 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 8: be more dark fleet ships taking that supply, Maybe other 202 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 8: refineries will be willing to risk retaliation from the West. 203 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 8: But at the moment, I think it does make sense 204 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 8: that OPEK plus would would move for a weight and 205 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 8: see situation, especially since, as you know, when you look 206 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 8: at the macro situation for oil, we are facing a 207 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 8: bit of a glot for twenty twenty six. 208 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 7: Yeah. 209 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: Indeed, there's several of those dynamics courses you say playing 210 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: out in the market too. There is a meating coming 211 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: up though, between Donald Trump and the Saudi crime friends 212 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: Muhammed Ben Salmon as well. What could emerge from that 213 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: that might be of interest to the oil markets. 214 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 8: Well, certainly if you can see some sort of OPEK 215 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 8: movement to increase output or anything there would be would 216 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 8: be quite interesting. Now, of course, it's it's really unlikely 217 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 8: that that could happen because you had these OPEK plus 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 8: pause and they are working in unison. That being said, 219 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 8: you know you could see some broad general statements from 220 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 8: both sides saying that they're working to really balance the market. 221 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 8: I think when you look at what Trump wants, certainly 222 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 8: he wants low gasoline prices. He doesn't want to shake 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 8: up the market, and while the movement to sanctioned Russia 224 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 8: has to put pressure on Moscow to end the war 225 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 8: in Ukraine. He also doesn't want a surge an oil 226 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 8: prices because that will hurt his base. He I think 227 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 8: Trump is really looking at a gasoline more than any 228 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 8: other president perhaps before, in terms of where the prices are, 229 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 8: and he cares a lot about it. So in the 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 8: past he has brokeered agreements to a degree with open 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 8: plus to increase output. Now whether he's going to be 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 8: able to do that very unclear, but I think any 233 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 8: sort of broad agreement or view on the market, especially 234 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 8: later for twenty twenty six, would be interesting in those meetings. 235 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Stephen, thank you so much for being with us. 236 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Steven Stepchinsky leads our team covering energy in Asia. Stay 237 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: with us. More from Bloomberg Daybaqube coming up after this. 238 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: China is about to unlock a huge African iron ore 239 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: deposit that risks upending the global market. The size and 240 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: richness of the Simandu deposit in Guinea could shift the 241 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: industry's parodynamics and help to transform the country's economy. Our 242 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: metals and mining reporter William Klause joins us now from 243 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: More will tell us for us about the scale of 244 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: Simandu and its potential impact on the global iron or market. Hi, 245 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: good morning, Yeah. 246 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 9: So Samandu in Guinea is a really famous name in 247 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 9: the mining world. It's a very large iron ore resource 248 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 9: in a remote mountainous part of West Africa, which Bloomberg 249 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 9: was able to visit in September. It's often described as 250 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 9: the largest untapped iron ore deposit in the world. So 251 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 9: Samandu finally entering the supply chain after all of these 252 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 9: years is a really important development for the steel industry. 253 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 9: Iron ores used to make steel because over the next 254 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 9: two and a half years, the project's owners, Rio Tinto 255 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 9: and the winning consortium will increase their combined production to 256 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty million tons a year. That's equivalent 257 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 9: of about five percent of total global output last year. 258 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 9: And it's important for China's steel industry in particular because 259 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 9: Rio Tinto used to hold the rights to the entire 260 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 9: Samandi deposit, but today only has a quarter share and 261 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 9: most of the project is owned by Chinese companies. And 262 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 9: this comes at a time when China, which is by 263 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 9: far the world's biggest steel producer, is trying to gain 264 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 9: more influence over the price of iron ore and to 265 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 9: curb the power of foreign mining companies like BHP and 266 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 9: Rio Tinto. This massive news supply of high grade mainly 267 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 9: Chinese iron, Chinese owned iron ore will help China with 268 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 9: that endeavor. 269 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that will be very important given I mean Rio 270 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: Tinto has been involved in the project for almost thirty years. 271 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,119 Speaker 1: But as you say, the Chinese firm so important, SIMANDU 272 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: then finally going to start actually exporting on or in 273 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: the next month or so, I mean, what actually brought 274 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: them over the finish line then, when this project has 275 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: been in the works for so long. 276 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 9: Two key turning points I'd say, first in late twenty 277 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 9: nineteen when this Chinese Singaporean group Winning Consortium was awarded 278 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 9: fifty percent of the projects that had been taken from 279 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 9: Rio Tinto. That development provided real momentum for the project, 280 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 9: since Winning was really committed to moving fast and at scale, 281 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 9: and all of those massive costs on infrastructure could now 282 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 9: be shared. And the second really important moment was mid 283 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 9: twenty twenty two when the Guineian government pushed the two 284 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 9: groups to work together and form a joint venture and 285 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 9: despite being very different companies, and that agreement could be 286 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,119 Speaker 9: considered like the final hurdle finally being cleared and unlocking 287 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 9: this investment that topped twenty billion dollars. 288 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 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