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Speaker 1: It's the Second Date Update podcast here with Brooke and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the morning, the home of the Second Date.

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Speaker 1: So we're so glad you're here because it's Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: now it's just become a regular thing. We're doing your

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Speaker 1: awkward Tuesday phone call. That's where we call someone. Actually

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Speaker 1: you call someone. We just give you advice, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to get it here in a second.

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Speaker 1: Come on, hey, And as we go into this, we'd

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Speaker 1: love to see in the comments after three dates, is

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Speaker 1: it okay to give a big surprise free.

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Speaker 3: I'm first date?

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Speaker 4: I get I'm like, you got something in the mail girl.

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Speaker 2: I love that about your host. All right, let us

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Speaker 2: know and sit back and enjoy the show.

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Speaker 3: It's awkward, it's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 4: A lot of times when we're helping out couples in

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Speaker 4: this segment, Yeah, they usually come to us around with

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Speaker 4: the six month mark in their relationship, maybe like a

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Speaker 4: year or two, and they've hit a speed bump.

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Speaker 3: But not today.

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Speaker 4: One of our listeners says he's sending up smoke signals

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Speaker 4: after date number three three.

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Speaker 2: He's already worried.

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Speaker 4: Already sign not necessarily the best, but we do need

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Speaker 4: to step in and try and help him out today.

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Speaker 4: So let's talk to Greg. Greg, Welcome to the show man.

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Speaker 4: How you doing.

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Speaker 5: What's going on? Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Date three man?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a lot.

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Speaker 3: She's sketched, bro, why don't you just drop it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my question, Jose Like, why even bother?

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Speaker 5: I've actually been thinking about.

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Speaker 1: That, but that's on the line right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So no pressure on us here, obviously. What's this

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Speaker 3: girl's name?

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Speaker 6: Her name is, it's a fun name.

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Speaker 2: Where'd you meet her online?

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Speaker 3: Okay? And so what's the issue?

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Speaker 4: I mean, three dates to already have a problem and

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Speaker 4: you reach out to a radio show about it, it

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Speaker 4: can't be good.

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Speaker 5: I'm just in a weird situation right now. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what to do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a weird situation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love weird situations. That means to be dramatic.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of weird stuff. What's happening?

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Speaker 5: So, you know, like I said, we met online, we

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Speaker 5: went on a few dates, but out of nowhere, she

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Speaker 5: just says, hey, like, I have a really big surprise

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Speaker 5: for you.

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Speaker 1: And okay, wait before you go further, when did she

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Speaker 2: Like via text? In person.

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Speaker 5: This is via text, okay.

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Speaker 3: And what day of the week was It was a

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Speaker 3: Monday Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It's like is she says a surprise date? Like do

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Speaker 5: No? Like during the afternoon, she's like, hey, I have

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Speaker 5: a big surprise for you. I've been working on after.

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Speaker 3: Just three dates.

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Speaker 5: That's adorable. She's handmaking something sound someone new does anything

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Speaker 5: by hand for you.

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Speaker 3: It's so nice.

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Speaker 5: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: What Why are you scared? Why do you sound scared

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Speaker 3: You're just not like surprises.

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Speaker 5: I was actually thinking about ghost Singer pretty soon. But

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Speaker 5: if she gives me like a big gift, like a

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Speaker 3: Why love that little parting gift for your time?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny you assume big. It could be

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Speaker 3: That's actually big.

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Speaker 5: She makes a good point.

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Speaker 7: It could just be like like free tickets or something.

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Speaker 3: I found your real father.

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Speaker 5: And that's what we have.

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Speaker 1: On the other line, do you feel like you're being

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Speaker 5: I'm just playing this out in my mind, and let's

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Speaker 5: just say if it is something big, I can't get

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but what if Okay, Okay, it's a good look,

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Speaker 7: isn't it? Like what happened to people just being direct

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I can't accept this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not where I'm at in the relationship.

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Speaker 3: We all wish we could move back to the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 3: That's not how the world works anymore. No, but it's true.

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Speaker 4: You can say, hey, look, I love the surprises too,

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Speaker 4: and I love presence. Why don't we save them and

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Speaker 4: we'll both give each other surprises down the road.

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Speaker 5: This girl is so amped about giving me this gift

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Speaker 5: right now, Like, I don't know if I can dial

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Speaker 3: I know I'm a gift giver.

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Speaker 2: I want to know what it is, so I'm excited

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Speaker 4: Okay, So you're not you're not saying that you're definitely

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Speaker 4: gonna end it with Gianna. You just don't want to

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Speaker 3: Okay, we're we doing? Are we asking her? What the

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Speaker 3: gift is, and then we hang up if it's not.

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Speaker 2: Good enough, And it sounds like he's more scared if

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Speaker 2: it's too good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, what advice specifically are you looking for?

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Speaker 5: Listen? I just want to know what it is, like

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Speaker 5: if it's a big.

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Speaker 3: Surprise, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wantn't know because if it's a big gift,

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Speaker 5: least be like another.

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Speaker 4: Three months a car, dude, then you're keeping her.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 3: He has a boy.

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Speaker 5: No one should be giving anyone's big gifts after three dates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, unless you're both on the same page

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Speaker 3: But rather, would you rather it's like a car, like

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Speaker 4: We don't know if it's just a key chain that

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Speaker 4: she had like personalized to have his name on it,

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Speaker 4: So it could be anything that's cute.

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Speaker 1: But if it's a small gift, like Jeff is suggesting,

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Speaker 1: would you continue to date her or are you gonna

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Speaker 5: I hope it's just a crappy surprise. That way, I

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Speaker 2: Her feel so sad.

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Speaker 4: A relationship lies in the balance right now, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: The way, right, it's better for her if you just

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Speaker 4: If he he has like a monkey, a live monkey.

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Speaker 5: You bought him. Yeah, I don't think it's sad because

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Speaker 5: I keep getting texts says he's working on it, right,

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Speaker 5: So what's a project? Yeah, I think she's with this.

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Speaker 2: Your own song?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be terrible. Let's let's come back. That

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Speaker 4: We'll give you a little bit of advice on what

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Speaker 4: your you're not even girlfriend, it's a new fling, Gianna

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Speaker 4: and find out what surprise she has planned coming up

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Speaker 4: when we do your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this.

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Speaker 3: It's awkward.

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Speaker 6: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 4: Everybody loves the person who blows the big surprise, and today.

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Speaker 3: That's all of them.

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Speaker 4: We're helping out one of our listeners, Greg, who's been

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Speaker 4: out on three dates with a girl named Gianna, wasn't

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Speaker 4: really feeling it with her in fact, kind of planned

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Speaker 4: on ghosting, to be honest, until she told him that

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Speaker 4: she has been planning.

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Speaker 3: A big surprise just for him.

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Speaker 4: Greg's worried if it's really cool that he's not going

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Speaker 7: Ghost because he's a He's a good guy who is guilty.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want to get roped into a relationship for

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Speaker 3: Nobody needs that, right alexis right.

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Speaker 5: Good?

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Speaker 4: So Greg is about to call her, but wants our

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Speaker 4: advice first on how to get Gianna to just open

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Speaker 4: he can just know. Jose please share your wisdom with Greg.

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Speaker 4: What should he do here?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeffrey Wisdom. Well, you gotta tell her. I

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Speaker 4: Something with you. Surprises give me anxiety. So all I

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Speaker 3: But I do like to ease some of my anxiety.

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Speaker 4: Anxiety, Greg, can you and you say that you actually

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Speaker 5: I have anxiety that I haven't broken up with her yet.

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Speaker 3: Yea channel that maybe into this phone call?

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Speaker 2: Brooke, what do you think I hate ruining surprises. I

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Speaker 2: love surprises.

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Speaker 4: Unless it's your husband surprising you with a barbershop quartet

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Speaker 3: You did not like that, I did it, So that's

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess like, if worse comes to worse, you just

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Speaker 2: Maybe she'll just tell you, oh, you know about blame.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's not bad advice. What do you think?

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Speaker 5: Greg? Yeah, I'm better off of playing anxiety card on

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Speaker 5: this one. Okay, I can use the other one if

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Speaker 5: I get desperate enough.

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Speaker 1: I had a nickel for every time a man told

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Speaker 1: me that, oh wait, wait, wait, let's.

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Speaker 4: Figure out, because always the men's desperate option, I think.

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Speaker 3: Okay, go figure it out?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: Well, Greg, not if that was uplifting or not, but

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Speaker 4: we're gonna a dial Gianna for you and let you

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Speaker 4: make this call. Hopefully you'll be able to figure out

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Speaker 4: what surprise she's been planning for you.

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Speaker 3: Really excited it's for you?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 3: We got you, man, I'm dialing her number right now

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Speaker 3: here we go?

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Speaker 6: All right, Hello, Gianna Graig, Hey, I've been having.

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Speaker 5: What's what's that? Nothing?

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Speaker 8: You just calls them a different number. I was just

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Speaker 5: I'm well, I'm doing well. Listen. There's something I wanted

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Speaker 5: to talk to you about, you know, the surprise that

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Speaker 5: of thought, and I'm so appreciative that you you put

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Speaker 8: You're going to love it.

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Speaker 5: You're going to love it, right, So listen. I'm We've

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm listening. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, I suffer from severe anxiety and surprises. Surprises are

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Speaker 5: like one of one of the triggers for that. Oh yeah, no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 5: oh my god. Unfortunately, I don't know if I can handle.

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Speaker 8: It, Greg Oh my god, no, like I had no clue. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes they give me medicine for it too.

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Speaker 8: Only for surprises the anxiety, or is it like just

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Speaker 5: The surprises are like the big trigger.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, oh gosh, oh my god, this is such a trigger.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I I mean, what do you mean? Like,

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Speaker 8: I don't know what to do. I don't know. I've

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Speaker 8: never been in a situation. I'm sorry, Greg.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you could just kind of tell me a

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Speaker 8: Oh well, you know, I really can't say. I really

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Speaker 5: Are? Yeah? Absolutely? It gets really bad my anxiety.

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Speaker 8: Are you triggering now?

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of short of breath and.

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Speaker 8: Just okay, no, no, no, sit down, just just are

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Speaker 8: you sitting down? Sit down? Good? Okay? Are you ready

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Speaker 8: for this because I'm going to tell you part of it?

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Speaker 8: Are you ready?

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Speaker 5: I'm ready?

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Speaker 8: All right? So you really love it? I booked you

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Remember you tell me you haven't been in a long time,

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Speaker 8: so I booked it for you.

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Speaker 5: Wow, I know.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'll tell you a little bit more. Also, I

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Speaker 8: also got you a dermatologist because I wanted to do

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Speaker 8: like everything at one time, like the mouth and hole

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Speaker 8: face everything facially just because you did all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I'm actually trying to get you an appointment for tsa

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Speaker 8: pre check too.

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Speaker 4: YESTU also made you a tax appointment for next year.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought it was an insult until we got

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Speaker 8: Same same Wait, wait, what is happening? Who are these people?

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Speaker 6: Wait?

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Speaker 4: These people are an entire radio show called Brook and

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning.

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Speaker 7: We're his Surprise Therapists Center there for support surprises.

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Speaker 8: No, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 8: What is going on, Craig, what is going on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So these people are really and they okay, hold on,

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Speaker 5: let them cook. They kind of helped me with like

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Speaker 5: tough decisions. Yeah, I kind of brought them into kind

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Speaker 8: So were you lying about the anxiety for surprises or something?

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Speaker 6: Why?

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Speaker 8: Why? Why do they need to help you out?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: No, I wasn't lying. I get super nervous about stuff.

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Speaker 8: Like this, different than so do you like the surprise?

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Speaker 5: You know what? Like it? Actually, no one's ever done

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you seem like more the creative type, right,

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Speaker 8: and I'm definitely like more buttoned up. So I thought

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Speaker 4: Service wowing a bit like practical I mean, Greg, that's

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Speaker 4: probably not what you were expecting at all. That is

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Speaker 4: actually kind of a big surprise that she cares enough

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Speaker 4: in your life. I don't how do you feel about

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Speaker 5: No, listen, here's the honest truth. I'm kind of into it.

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Speaker 5: I think that's amazing and it.

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Speaker 3: Takes a lot off of his plate now that he

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Speaker 8: So listen. I'm big on love languages, and I heard

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Speaker 8: and we had that conversation at our second date. So

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Speaker 8: I'm booking you appointments all over the city. You know.

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Speaker 8: I'm doing this for you, baby, like all over the city.

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Speaker 4: Maybe people in relationships should be doing more of these

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's sweet that that's your active service. But

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're really encroaching on like mom terrorists.

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Speaker 3: Okay, don't don't. Her love language is roadkill. She doesn't

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Speaker 3: know what to think about true romance.

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Speaker 2: I just be careful.

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Speaker 8: Here's the thing. It's not really like mom, because I'm

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Speaker 8: not pain I just wanted to book the appointment. It's

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Speaker 8: like he paid for dinner. He books the dinner date.

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Speaker 8: So I thought I booked some things that I noticed.

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Speaker 4: I mean, to me, it sounds like brook has a

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Speaker 4: want to do him Greg.

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Speaker 3: Greg seems to like it. Greg is on board with this.

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Speaker 5: I'm on board.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: No, he's saying he likes it.

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Speaker 2: I know, but I'm just saying for her, it's a

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Speaker 1: Well, if you book a coup two moments one day,

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Speaker 1: two years down the road, you're doing all his laundry,

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is the Brooks story of what happened in.

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Speaker 2: That is not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I definitely want things to be romantic between us, right,

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Speaker 3: Course, yeah, so maybe you should book a couple's massage

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Speaker 3: for the two of you.

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Speaker 2: That is the booking that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 5: Okay, massages giving me anxiety.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's doing anymore.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he's truthful about saying.

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Speaker 4: I'm just happy that we actually made this call and

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Speaker 4: on the same page that the surprise is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see each other again, right, I hope.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, most definitely.

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Speaker 2: In the lobby of the dentistaurs.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's broken Jeffrey in the morning.