WEBVTT - Torrey DeVitto 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.080 Do you eat eggs? 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.880 I do eat eggs. So my duck has started laying eggs, 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:06.080 but I can't. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:07.960 Is that a thing? 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.320 Yeah, they're eggs groups, just like chicken eggs, but they're bigger, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:16.319 and apparently they make baking even fluffier. So I've heard. 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:18.200 I can't. 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.279 We need to we need to share that sound, we 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.200 need to clip that sound. But right there, they make 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.080 baking even fluffier. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.680 Hi, I'm Toriy Devido and I don't eat duck eggs. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.400 Hello, everybody, it's so good to have you back here 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.320 on Off the Beat, and I am delighted. I'm pleased 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.520 as punch to be your host. Brian Baumgartner, my guest 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:58.720 today is Well some might call a violin prodigy. Yep, 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.560 toy to veto. Now. I didn't say she was necessarily 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:07.959 famous for playing the violin, mind you, but she's very 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.720 very good at it from everything she led me to believe. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.440 Tory is, of course a fantastic actor. You may know 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.160 her from a number of different shows, Nanny Carey on 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.720 One Tree Hill, Melissa on Pretty Little Liars, or Doctor 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:29.200 Natalie Manning on Chicago Med. She's also been playing the 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:32.480 violin since she was very little. She even played at 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:38.840 Christy Brinkley's wedding and on Stevie Nick's album. So she 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:43.959 is not only very talented, she's also very very cool. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.520 You'll find out how she went from touring with the 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.560 likes of Billie Joel to traveling the world as a 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.360 fashion model to now living on a small farm in 0:01:55.520 --> 0:02:01.240 rural Michigan that does not currently have any pigs. Let's 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:07.360 hear it straight from her, the absolutely delightful Tory DeVito. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:18.520 Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and squeak, Bubble 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.440 and Squeaker, cook it every more. Lift over from the 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.440 Nine People. 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.560 Hi, Torri, Hi, how are you? 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:38.520 I'm all right? How are you doing? 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:39.600 Pretty good? 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.760 Yeah? Yeah, no, no one, no one. I always say 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.360 I can't complain because no one would care anyway, I 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:53.320 would care how you're doing. But uh yeah, where where 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:54.200 are you right now? 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.200 I'm in Michigan. I live full time in Michigan. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:58.640 Michigan. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.480 H wow, Yeah, I don't. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.760 I don't get a lot of Michigan. Where in Michigan. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.320 So I live near a town called Saugatuck, Okay, And 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.840 I have a I have a farm there and then 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.400 we also have a place about an hour away from 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:19.720 the farm in Kalamazoo where my fiance works. Okay, but 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.320 I moved to Michigan, uh because I just love it. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.360 Before I met him, before anything, I just I love 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.320 I love Michigan. And I was like, I'm done with La. 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:31.560 I'm stick of LA staying in Michigan. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.440 You're staying in Michigan. Good for you. I had a 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.200 great experience with one of my old co workers there 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.120 in uh what I say, Grand Rapids and oh yeah 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.160 and big big Rapids. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.720 Yeah. Grand Rapids is like an hour from me, and there's. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.760 A Big Rapids. That's where the college I was at 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.560 a college there, Right, big Rapids. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.040 I think. So I know there's I only know Grand 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:00.920 Rapids personally, but I know there's all sorts of rapids, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.320 which I didn't know. There was so much about Michigan. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:03.880 I didn't know. 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.800 Well, you you grew up in New York or you 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.840 were born in New York, I understand. So, yeah, you 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.320 falling in love with Michigan. That doesn't sound on brand. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.960 No, Well, my mother's from Michigan, and so we did 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:19.640 come here to visit her family for the summers. So 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.680 I had a little bit of a background with Michigan, 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.760 but when we would visit them, I didn't feel connected 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.400 to Michigan. Then it was I was filming in Chicago 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.520 and my mom had moved to this little town in 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:36.159 Michigan that's on the water, a very artsy, cute community 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.400 that you see in movies and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.919 but it really exists. And I'd come up on my 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.960 weekends because it was a two hour drive to Chicago. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.599 I just fell in love with it. So during the pandemic, 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.560 I was like, that's it, I'm out. Just stayed. 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.080 Yeah. I have some friends. It's exactly what you said 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.880 when they were like, we summer in Michigan and this 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.560 is from Atlanta, Georgia are in Michigan. Like what does 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.640 that even mean? But the lake there is very beautiful. 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.400 And do you boat? Are you like? Are you like 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:10.720 an outdoors I mean you. 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:11.360 Have a farm. 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.640 Yeah, what's on your farm? 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:14.760 What do you have on your farm? 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.560 I have two goats and two ducks and two dogs 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:20.200 and two cats. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:26.000 Okay, goats, that's exotic. You don't have like alpacas and. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:30.840 No, no, it's no. I think I'm sticking with this 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.719 for now. I obviously would like to expand. But you know, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.400 one step at a time, at a time. 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.239 But you're I moved to Michigan. Give me a break. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.200 I already did the step. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.159 One step at a time. But no, I love it. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.640 I love being in nature. I love getting to walk outside. 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.279 I love that it's just more pure here. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.360 Okay, fine, pure. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:01.440 The air is cleaner, things are just cleaner. You know, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:06.839 I can just outside, Yes, and I'm not inundated with 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.080 city crap, you know. Yes, But I'm two hours from Chicago, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.839 so if I need that hit, it's right there, take 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:14.560 a two hour drive. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:15.200 Yeah right. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.920 I mean, I do know that you're wearing overalls right now. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.320 I don't know if those are like I don't know 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.240 if those are like Levi's though. Those seem a little 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.720 bit more like like overalls you would wear a New 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:31.960 York or Chicago. But I'm just their corduroy. Yeah, I 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:38.680 don't see. I don't see goat debris on the Okay, yeah, 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.080 small steps, I understand. Small steps. 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:46.200 You to move the move designer overalls. Then we'll get 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.799 to the non designer overall soon. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:54.720 Okay. All right, baby steps, baby steps. Uh, you had 0:06:55.080 --> 0:07:00.159 a fascinating childhood. I know, I'm not the first to 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:04.040 tell you this. Your parents, they were in the music industry. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:10.280 You as a child, you went on tours. I'm guessing 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.120 with people like, oh, I don't know, like Billy Joel 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.000 and Stevie Nicks. Tell me a little bit about your 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:21.480 your childhood. Your dad was the drummer for for Billy Joel. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.080 Yes, my dad played with Billy for thirty. 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.680 Years years stop. 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.360 Yeah, a long time. They met when they were like 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.480 nineteen years old or something on Long Island. Yeah, so 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:38.440 I grew up going on tour. Alexa, his daughter is 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.520 in between my age and my sister's age, so we 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.400 all grew up together. And yeah, it was. It's so 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.000 I feel so pretentious when I'm like, I don't know 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.760 any other childhood. So when people say like, oh, it's 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.760 such an interesting channel, and I'm like, yeah, but what 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:55.440 is it like when your parents are like doctors like that, 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.280 what they save a lot? That's crazy, you know, like, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:04.280 what is that? So? Yeah, but I mean, look, it's 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.840 my dad still. He's playing all the time and every 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.040 time I go visit him. He's in a new band 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.400 right now called the slim Kings, and also the original 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:17.720 Billy Joel guys play together and tour, so he's always 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.320 doing something, so there's always something going on and I 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:20.720 love it. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.960 By the way, it did sound pretentious. I how many 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.280 times have you heard piano man live live live? A lot, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:31.080 a lot. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.480 But what's funny is I actually could not sing a 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.120 full Billy Joel's song start to finish all the lyrics 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.360 because I would go to the shows and then sometimes 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.040 we would be playing backstage or whatever. We didn't really 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.040 sit through the whole show. And I never listened to 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.679 it until honestly, kind of recently, I'm like, man, these 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.280 are really good songs. Not that I couldn't acknowledge that, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.480 but it's like it's your dad's you know what I mean. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.760 I wasn't sitting in my bedroom listening to Billy Joel, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.880 So people, I think, always find that funny that I might. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.880 I don't know all the work, Like I don't know 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.040 every song. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.160 So he was a drummer, Yeah, was constant? Was that 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.440 sound the sound of your childhood? Like do you do 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.760 you remember hearing that from I don't know, from the garage, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:24.080 from the guest bedroom, whatever, Like constantly hearing music and 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.240 experiencing music as you were growing up. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.719 Absolutely to this day. It's like, even if we're at 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.240 a restaurant, he's constantly like with like the fork and 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.400 a knife doing something and I'm like, Dad, everybody wants 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.720 to hear this right now, like take it down a notch. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.280 But yeah, No, he had a drum set and we 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.520 had my parents had this office room. He had a 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.760 drum set in there, and when they would be on hiatus, 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.480 he was always playing with other people you know around 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.640 that would come over and just have like jam sessions 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.680 all the time in the house. And he was always 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.840 playing loud music. And I think one of the things 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.600 I wish I would have been more into. But you know, 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.040 as a daughter, I was like, go away, leave me alone. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.920 He'd like run into my room like, oh, you got 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.560 to listen to this song, listen to this part. And 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:12.320 I was like, okay, whatever, go away. And now I 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:13.599 wish I would. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.720 Have been That's like me in sports with my daughter, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:20.000 like something like I'll be like, oh, yeah, come here, 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.640 you got to see this. This is something really cool. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.319 No interest, no, just just a total dismissal job of 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:28.920 a child. 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.679 I think, I. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:36.680 Guess, I don't know. At some point you moved to Florida, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.800 Central Florida specifically, this is I don't know if you 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.280 know this. This is very different from New York and 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.160 Long Island. What was the reason for that move? Was 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.760 that just he was on the road, or. 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.800 It's so my parents. So my mom was best friends 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:58.280 with Stevie and when dad and Billie were on Hiatus Tory, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.640 my dad played on Stevie's solo tour. That's how he 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:07.760 met my mom. My mom was a very hippy California girl, 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.160 like loved the sun and palm trees, it all this, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.080 and my dad is a very East Coast Italian New Yorker, 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.880 so they got together. Everything happened very quickly, and she 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.720 moved to New York. And I think the promise was 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.680 you will be around palm trees again. One day I promised. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.800 They were on tour, we were in Florida, they decided 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.040 to look at houses. My mom loved this little town 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.000 called Winter Park, so we ended up moving there. And 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:39.320 I can hate Florida. It was I was not It 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.240 was not the direction I would have gone right, and 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.200 none of my family lives there anymore. I really do 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.160 think it was part of the downfall of us to 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.760 beatos moving to Florida. My dad went back to Brooklyn. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:55.040 My mom now lives in Michigan. So but yeah, Florida. 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:59.720 So was that tough for you as a How old 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.000 were you when you moved? 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.439 I was eleven, Okay, yeah, so it was sad. It 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.240 was sad, saying God by all my friends. I was 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.559 excited about the high school. I knew we would all 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.360 go to together one day in King's Park, New York. 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.200 And you know, it's always hard making new friends. And 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:20.679 I found Florida to be very weird, even at that age. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.439 I noticed that even in my high school, like my school, 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:25.360 we had like four thousand kids in our school. It 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:29.840 was huge. Wow, and the segregation was insane. I was like, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.240 and I was so taken it back by so much 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.120 about Florida that wasn't in New York. I was like, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.120 oh my god, it was just it was a very 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:41.480 alarming place. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.240 I think you played the violin. Now, what I read 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:51.000 was violin prodigy. That's not true, that's not true. 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.520 I mean I started playing when I was six, and 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.400 six is young. Six is young. And I did play 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.760 all throughout high school, and I traveled over to Europe 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:05.160 and I played for Chrissy Brinkley's wedding when I was 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.600 like twelve, and so I think that's why the word 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.000 prodigy gets lost, and I. 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:17.600 Didn't do a lot prodigy though, that's prodigy. Yeah, that's prodigy, right, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.839 I mean I know this was there were friends, but but. 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:27.640 Still yeah, yeah, no, I mean it was, it was. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:28.320 I was. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.360 It was a huge part of my life. It still is, 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.480 but it was even bigger. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.720 Part of my life than you still play. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.280 I do still play. I took a little bit of 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.160 a break the last couple of years because I fractured 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.960 my finger, and then it was really hard to get 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.360 back into it because I noticed, like as a classical musician, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.480 improv and all the things were allowed to do as 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.040 actors you can't do as a classical musice. So that 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.440 was actually the hardest switchover for me. When I started acting, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.280 people were like, just go with it, and I'm like, no, no, 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.720 give me the words, let me act it. They're like, no, no, 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.120 just go with your and I'm like, wait a second. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.240 I'm so used to being told exactly what I have 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.800 to play. So when I broke factured my finger and 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.360 then took some time off, it was like, wait, I'm 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:15.440 gonna be terrible. I can't play violin and not be 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.800 good at it because I'm so classically trained. It's like 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.240 you have to Everything has to be perfect. So I 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.440 put off playing for about two and a half years, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.440 but I just started again, which has been fun. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.560 This is fascinating to me. So as a classical musician, 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.880 does that mean that there's no personal interpretation? 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.640 Well, I obviously think everybody has their styles and their 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:42.320 way of doing things, and that's why the greats happened. 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.040 But when it comes to the music, you know, Mozart 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.960 and bait, there's no room for interpretation. It's not like 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.960 you'd be like, well, he put this as a half note, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.400 but I'm bake it a bordant note. It's like, no, 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.120 you can't. You can't do that. And every note has 0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:00.440 to be pitch per Everything has to be so perfect. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.160 There's no improv unless you're playing jazz or fiddle or 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.640 something like that. But that's for music. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:09.920 No, Yeah, So what does distinguish. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.160 That's a really good question. I've actually never thought of that. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:17.200 I think style, you know, charisma, the way people and 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:22.480 also just being so much better than everyone else. It's 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.760 a really hard instrument to get really really great at 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:26.680 you know what I mean. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.560 So there's hitting the notes, but then there's a way 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:35.000 to hit the notes pure or well. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:40.880 It's funny. It's like even some string musicians, some have 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.080 better tone than others. And I don't even know how 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.920 to explain that. It's almost like singing. It's like how 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.960 somebody could be hitting the same pitch, but somebody's tone 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.840 is just better. Right, It's like, I don't know if 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.920 that's finesse, if that's just like more of a natural 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.360 thing that you have it than someone else. I'm not 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:01.520 really sure. But that's kind of where I stop, not 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.760 stop playing, but decided it wasn't going to be a 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.840 because of profession for me, because I realized I wasn't 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:11.080 ever gonna be good enough to be the soloist, and 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.760 they didn't want to be in an orchestra forever. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.920 Right. That's fascinating to me. I've never thought I mean, 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.800 you said, you've never thought of it. I've never thought 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.760 about that. The ability. Yeah. Yeah, when you're acting to 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:25.800 say like, oh, go no, go with what you're feeling 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.240 right now, go, Yeah, you can play around with this 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.200 a little bit, and you're saying like, no, no, no, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.120 tell me what the notes are. I'll hit the notes right, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.920 I'll hit the notes in the tambra, in the in 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.880 the pace that you want me to. 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:45.840 That's fascinating piano, I'm actually thinking, because at least with violin, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.680 it's like you have to hit all those notes. Piano, 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.000 it's all there. So what makes a great pianist versus 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.960 you know, if they can play the same music and 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.160 they have to say, well, you're not even pitch at 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.000 that point, because the pianos as long as you're hitting 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.600 the keys or pitch perfect. So what makes a great pianist? Huh? 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.000 I really think about this today. 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.720 All right, I'm gonna have to dive into this well 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.639 because I'm also thinking about singers too, right, which in 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.000 a way, I mean, once you get into opera, then 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:19.399 there is performance, there's presence. But you know what makes 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:26.040 the great singers of classical music? What makes them great? 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:26.760 Emotion? 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.760 The emotion that comes through the voice. 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:31.920 I think, Yeah, being able to pull So maybe it's 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:36.439 the same with as well. Yeah, it's being able to 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.440 convey that emotion, pulling somebody in because. 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.200 You feel it. I mean, I mean great classical music 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:48.199 you feel yeah, and it is it the composer that 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.840 makes you feel or is it the artist that's that 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.439 has the instruments that makes you feel. I didn't think 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.280 we were going to be talking about this, by the way, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:59.000 but I know, but I think this is very interesting 0:17:59.040 --> 0:17:59.280 to me. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.960 No, it is, for sure. I think it has to 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.119 be a combination. Like obviously the it's like when you 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.200 get a really great script, you're like, oh, the words 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.879 speak for themselves, but you still have to put in 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.280 that emotion and still so I think it's it's got 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.119 to be a combination. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:32.640 That's fascinating. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.600 So you had decided that that was not going to 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.040 be your profession, though you still play it. You started 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:48.320 modeling at age fifteen, and I have read that you 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:51.480 have said that that was in order to get eventually 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.680 into film and television. So even at fifteen, you saw 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:58.600 this path, this was the path you wanted, and this 0:18:58.760 --> 0:18:59.960 was the path you decided to take. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:09.160 No. No, So I I went into modeling and not 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.840 really knowing what I was doing. I got an agent, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:17.600 and I was very shy, and I didn't really love it. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.520 I found it to be very boring, and not to 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.119 say that people don't have fun with it, but I 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.119 personally was like, it's a lot of waiting around just 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.199 to go take pictures. Like, I didn't really love it. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.720 And a photographer had said to my mom, you know 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.639 she's very shy in front of the camera. You should 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.480 put her in an acting class to kind of open 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:35.119 her up. And so I went into an acting class, 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.680 and I was like, Oh, this is what I want 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.280 to do, not that, And so I kind of used 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:43.480 modeling while I was still in high school, like commercials 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:47.040 and commercial modeling to save up the money to move 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.240 to La got it. 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:54.120 What was it about the acting class that attracted you 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.800 that made you say that this is what I want 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:57.080 to do. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.919 I honestly just found it to be so fun. I 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:05.200 am a very I could be very emotional and dramatic, 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.960 and I was like, wait, I can do this just 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.480 because I am having fun doing this, that's cool. It's 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.080 not because I'm just like a teen in my bedroom 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.960 being all emo. This is so fun. 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.560 Were you taking like like did you do classical stuff? 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.960 Were you doing acting for film and television or was 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.480 it more theater. I know you did some theater in Orlando. 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.159 I did some theater in Orlando. So I took a 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:34.080 class outside of my school. I never did it in school, 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:37.880 but this class was a scene study class. So that's 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.760 kind of where I started, and I loved it, although 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.920 admittedly I hated going to class. I still hate going 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:46.359 to class. Like if I knew I was going to 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.679 a class tonight at six, I would be thinking of 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:51.160 excuses from now until that of why I can't show up. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.560 I just I hate showing up, But once I'm there, 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.400 I love it. But I hated showing up, but it's 0:20:56.440 --> 0:21:00.960 a scene study class. And then back and Nickelodeon was 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.600 actually still in Orlando. I don't think it had fully 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:08.119 moved to LA yet, so there was like little extra 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:10.760 work I did, and like I did a guest star 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.200 on a CW well was WB a show that came 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:18.919 into Jacksonville, and then like commercials for Bush Gardens and 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:22.560 things like that, and I was like, I'm ready to 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:24.600 move to LA and I was like, got there and 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:25.760 I was like, no, you're not. 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.480 What Why did you Why did you think? No, you're not? 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:33.640 Once you got there, I. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.000 Went into auditions and I was just so I hate 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:38.879 using this term because I thought this term, I was like, 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:41.480 what does that even mean? It was so green. I 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:45.080 didn't know what I was doing. I thought, I was like, oh, 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.679 but haven't you seen my reel of riding the rollercoaster 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.720 nine times? It's like, no, that doesn't cut it out here. 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.440 I just I was so nervous. I was so green. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:58.720 I didn't yet know how to really like dig totally 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:02.000 deep into my work. Like it was very superficial. When 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.720 I moved out, and luckily I met this acting coach 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:09.840 in LA that totally changed everything for me. He used 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.320 to train under Larry Moss, and so I did like 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:17.320 a Larry Moss intentive intensive as well and read his 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:21.080 book and that was like something clicked for me there. 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.000 I was like, oh my gosh, like this way of 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.760 breaking down a script and all that stuff really made 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:31.000 sense to me and I it really changed my work, 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:31.679