Speaker 1: Do you eat eggs?
Speaker 2: I do eat eggs. So my duck has started laying eggs,
Speaker 2: but I can't.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're eggs groups, just like chicken eggs, but they're bigger,
Speaker 2: and apparently they make baking even fluffier. So I've heard.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: We need to we need to share that sound, we
Speaker 1: need to clip that sound. But right there, they make
Speaker 1: baking even fluffier.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Toriy Devido and I don't eat duck eggs.
Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, it's so good to have you back here
Speaker 1: on Off the Beat, and I am delighted. I'm pleased
Speaker 1: as punch to be your host. Brian Baumgartner, my guest
Speaker 1: today is Well some might call a violin prodigy. Yep,
Speaker 1: toy to veto. Now. I didn't say she was necessarily
Speaker 1: famous for playing the violin, mind you, but she's very
Speaker 1: very good at it from everything she led me to believe.
Speaker 1: Tory is, of course a fantastic actor. You may know
Speaker 1: her from a number of different shows, Nanny Carey on
Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, Melissa on Pretty Little Liars, or Doctor
Speaker 1: Natalie Manning on Chicago Med. She's also been playing the
Speaker 1: violin since she was very little. She even played at
Speaker 1: Christy Brinkley's wedding and on Stevie Nick's album. So she
Speaker 1: is not only very talented, she's also very very cool.
Speaker 1: You'll find out how she went from touring with the
Speaker 1: likes of Billie Joel to traveling the world as a
Speaker 1: fashion model to now living on a small farm in
Speaker 1: rural Michigan that does not currently have any pigs. Let's
Speaker 1: hear it straight from her, the absolutely delightful Tory DeVito.
Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and squeak, Bubble
Speaker 3: and Squeaker, cook it every more. Lift over from the
Speaker 3: Nine People.
Speaker 4: Hi, Torri, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm all right? How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, no one, no one. I always say
Speaker 1: I can't complain because no one would care anyway, I
Speaker 1: would care how you're doing. But uh yeah, where where
Speaker 1: are you right now?
Speaker 2: I'm in Michigan. I live full time in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Michigan.
Speaker 4: H wow, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of Michigan. Where in Michigan.
Speaker 2: So I live near a town called Saugatuck, Okay, And
Speaker 2: I have a I have a farm there and then
Speaker 2: we also have a place about an hour away from
Speaker 2: the farm in Kalamazoo where my fiance works. Okay, but
Speaker 2: I moved to Michigan, uh because I just love it.
Speaker 2: Before I met him, before anything, I just I love
Speaker 2: I love Michigan. And I was like, I'm done with La.
Speaker 2: I'm stick of LA staying in Michigan.
Speaker 1: You're staying in Michigan. Good for you. I had a
Speaker 1: great experience with one of my old co workers there
Speaker 1: in uh what I say, Grand Rapids and oh yeah
Speaker 1: and big big Rapids.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Grand Rapids is like an hour from me, and there's.
Speaker 1: A Big Rapids. That's where the college I was at
Speaker 1: a college there, Right, big Rapids.
Speaker 2: I think. So I know there's I only know Grand
Speaker 2: Rapids personally, but I know there's all sorts of rapids,
Speaker 2: which I didn't know. There was so much about Michigan.
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Well, you you grew up in New York or you
Speaker 1: were born in New York, I understand. So, yeah, you
Speaker 1: falling in love with Michigan. That doesn't sound on brand.
Speaker 2: No, Well, my mother's from Michigan, and so we did
Speaker 2: come here to visit her family for the summers. So
Speaker 2: I had a little bit of a background with Michigan,
Speaker 2: but when we would visit them, I didn't feel connected
Speaker 2: to Michigan. Then it was I was filming in Chicago
Speaker 2: and my mom had moved to this little town in
Speaker 2: Michigan that's on the water, a very artsy, cute community
Speaker 2: that you see in movies and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but it really exists. And I'd come up on my
Speaker 2: weekends because it was a two hour drive to Chicago.
Speaker 2: I just fell in love with it. So during the pandemic,
Speaker 2: I was like, that's it, I'm out. Just stayed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some friends. It's exactly what you said
Speaker 1: when they were like, we summer in Michigan and this
Speaker 1: is from Atlanta, Georgia are in Michigan. Like what does
Speaker 1: that even mean? But the lake there is very beautiful.
Speaker 1: And do you boat? Are you like? Are you like
Speaker 1: an outdoors I mean you.
Speaker 4: Have a farm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's on your farm?
Speaker 1: What do you have on your farm?
Speaker 2: I have two goats and two ducks and two dogs
Speaker 2: and two cats.
Speaker 1: Okay, goats, that's exotic. You don't have like alpacas and.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's no. I think I'm sticking with this
Speaker 2: for now. I obviously would like to expand. But you know,
Speaker 2: one step at a time, at a time.
Speaker 1: But you're I moved to Michigan. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: I already did the step.
Speaker 2: One step at a time. But no, I love it.
Speaker 2: I love being in nature. I love getting to walk outside.
Speaker 2: I love that it's just more pure here.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, pure.
Speaker 2: The air is cleaner, things are just cleaner. You know,
Speaker 2: I can just outside, Yes, and I'm not inundated with
Speaker 2: city crap, you know. Yes, But I'm two hours from Chicago,
Speaker 2: so if I need that hit, it's right there, take
Speaker 2: a two hour drive.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do know that you're wearing overalls right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those are like I don't know
Speaker 1: if those are like Levi's though. Those seem a little
Speaker 1: bit more like like overalls you would wear a New
Speaker 1: York or Chicago. But I'm just their corduroy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see goat debris on the Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: small steps, I understand. Small steps.
Speaker 2: You to move the move designer overalls. Then we'll get
Speaker 2: to the non designer overall soon.
Speaker 1: Okay. All right, baby steps, baby steps. Uh, you had
Speaker 1: a fascinating childhood. I know, I'm not the first to
Speaker 1: tell you this. Your parents, they were in the music industry.
Speaker 1: You as a child, you went on tours. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: with people like, oh, I don't know, like Billy Joel
Speaker 1: and Stevie Nicks. Tell me a little bit about your
Speaker 1: your childhood. Your dad was the drummer for for Billy Joel.
Speaker 2: Yes, my dad played with Billy for thirty.
Speaker 4: Years years stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time. They met when they were like
Speaker 2: nineteen years old or something on Long Island. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I grew up going on tour. Alexa, his daughter is
Speaker 2: in between my age and my sister's age, so we
Speaker 2: all grew up together. And yeah, it was. It's so
Speaker 2: I feel so pretentious when I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: any other childhood. So when people say like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: such an interesting channel, and I'm like, yeah, but what
Speaker 2: is it like when your parents are like doctors like that,
Speaker 2: what they save a lot? That's crazy, you know, like,
Speaker 2: what is that? So? Yeah, but I mean, look, it's
Speaker 2: my dad still. He's playing all the time and every
Speaker 2: time I go visit him. He's in a new band
Speaker 2: right now called the slim Kings, and also the original
Speaker 2: Billy Joel guys play together and tour, so he's always
Speaker 2: doing something, so there's always something going on and I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: By the way, it did sound pretentious. I how many
Speaker 1: times have you heard piano man live live live? A lot,
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: But what's funny is I actually could not sing a
Speaker 2: full Billy Joel's song start to finish all the lyrics
Speaker 2: because I would go to the shows and then sometimes
Speaker 2: we would be playing backstage or whatever. We didn't really
Speaker 2: sit through the whole show. And I never listened to
Speaker 2: it until honestly, kind of recently, I'm like, man, these
Speaker 2: are really good songs. Not that I couldn't acknowledge that,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's your dad's you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I wasn't sitting in my bedroom listening to Billy Joel,
Speaker 2: So people, I think, always find that funny that I might.
Speaker 2: I don't know all the work, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: every song.
Speaker 1: So he was a drummer, Yeah, was constant? Was that
Speaker 1: sound the sound of your childhood? Like do you do
Speaker 1: you remember hearing that from I don't know, from the garage,
Speaker 1: from the guest bedroom, whatever, Like constantly hearing music and
Speaker 1: experiencing music as you were growing up.
Speaker 2: Absolutely to this day. It's like, even if we're at
Speaker 2: a restaurant, he's constantly like with like the fork and
Speaker 2: a knife doing something and I'm like, Dad, everybody wants
Speaker 2: to hear this right now, like take it down a notch.
Speaker 2: But yeah, No, he had a drum set and we
Speaker 2: had my parents had this office room. He had a
Speaker 2: drum set in there, and when they would be on hiatus,
Speaker 2: he was always playing with other people you know around
Speaker 2: that would come over and just have like jam sessions
Speaker 2: all the time in the house. And he was always
Speaker 2: playing loud music. And I think one of the things
Speaker 2: I wish I would have been more into. But you know,
Speaker 2: as a daughter, I was like, go away, leave me alone.
Speaker 2: He'd like run into my room like, oh, you got
Speaker 2: to listen to this song, listen to this part. And
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, whatever, go away. And now I
Speaker 2: wish I would.
Speaker 1: Have been That's like me in sports with my daughter,
Speaker 1: like something like I'll be like, oh, yeah, come here,
Speaker 1: you got to see this. This is something really cool.
Speaker 1: No interest, no, just just a total dismissal job of
Speaker 1: a child.
Speaker 2: I think, I.
Speaker 1: Guess, I don't know. At some point you moved to Florida,
Speaker 1: Central Florida specifically, this is I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this. This is very different from New York and
Speaker 1: Long Island. What was the reason for that move? Was
Speaker 1: that just he was on the road, or.
Speaker 2: It's so my parents. So my mom was best friends
Speaker 2: with Stevie and when dad and Billie were on Hiatus Tory,
Speaker 2: my dad played on Stevie's solo tour. That's how he
Speaker 2: met my mom. My mom was a very hippy California girl,
Speaker 2: like loved the sun and palm trees, it all this,
Speaker 2: and my dad is a very East Coast Italian New Yorker,
Speaker 2: so they got together. Everything happened very quickly, and she
Speaker 2: moved to New York. And I think the promise was
Speaker 2: you will be around palm trees again. One day I promised.
Speaker 2: They were on tour, we were in Florida, they decided
Speaker 2: to look at houses. My mom loved this little town
Speaker 2: called Winter Park, so we ended up moving there. And
Speaker 2: I can hate Florida. It was I was not It
Speaker 2: was not the direction I would have gone right, and
Speaker 2: none of my family lives there anymore. I really do
Speaker 2: think it was part of the downfall of us to
Speaker 2: beatos moving to Florida. My dad went back to Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: My mom now lives in Michigan. So but yeah, Florida.
Speaker 1: So was that tough for you as a How old
Speaker 1: were you when you moved?
Speaker 2: I was eleven, Okay, yeah, so it was sad. It
Speaker 2: was sad, saying God by all my friends. I was
Speaker 2: excited about the high school. I knew we would all
Speaker 2: go to together one day in King's Park, New York.
Speaker 2: And you know, it's always hard making new friends. And
Speaker 2: I found Florida to be very weird, even at that age.
Speaker 2: I noticed that even in my high school, like my school,
Speaker 2: we had like four thousand kids in our school. It
Speaker 2: was huge. Wow, and the segregation was insane. I was like,
Speaker 2: and I was so taken it back by so much
Speaker 2: about Florida that wasn't in New York. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, it was just it was a very
Speaker 2: alarming place.
Speaker 1: I think you played the violin. Now, what I read
Speaker 1: was violin prodigy. That's not true, that's not true.
Speaker 2: I mean I started playing when I was six, and
Speaker 2: six is young. Six is young. And I did play
Speaker 2: all throughout high school, and I traveled over to Europe
Speaker 2: and I played for Chrissy Brinkley's wedding when I was
Speaker 2: like twelve, and so I think that's why the word
Speaker 2: prodigy gets lost, and I.
Speaker 1: Didn't do a lot prodigy though, that's prodigy. Yeah, that's prodigy, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I know this was there were friends, but but.
Speaker 2: Still yeah, yeah, no, I mean it was, it was.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: It was a huge part of my life. It still is,
Speaker 2: but it was even bigger.
Speaker 1: Part of my life than you still play.
Speaker 2: I do still play. I took a little bit of
Speaker 2: a break the last couple of years because I fractured
Speaker 2: my finger, and then it was really hard to get
Speaker 2: back into it because I noticed, like as a classical musician,
Speaker 2: improv and all the things were allowed to do as
Speaker 2: actors you can't do as a classical musice. So that
Speaker 2: was actually the hardest switchover for me. When I started acting,
Speaker 2: people were like, just go with it, and I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 2: give me the words, let me act it. They're like, no, no,
Speaker 2: just go with your and I'm like, wait a second.
Speaker 2: I'm so used to being told exactly what I have
Speaker 2: to play. So when I broke factured my finger and
Speaker 2: then took some time off, it was like, wait, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be terrible. I can't play violin and not be
Speaker 2: good at it because I'm so classically trained. It's like
Speaker 2: you have to Everything has to be perfect. So I
Speaker 2: put off playing for about two and a half years,
Speaker 2: but I just started again, which has been fun.
Speaker 1: This is fascinating to me. So as a classical musician,
Speaker 1: does that mean that there's no personal interpretation?
Speaker 2: Well, I obviously think everybody has their styles and their
Speaker 2: way of doing things, and that's why the greats happened.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to the music, you know, Mozart
Speaker 2: and bait, there's no room for interpretation. It's not like
Speaker 2: you'd be like, well, he put this as a half note,
Speaker 2: but I'm bake it a bordant note. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't do that. And every note has
Speaker 2: to be pitch per Everything has to be so perfect.
Speaker 2: There's no improv unless you're playing jazz or fiddle or
Speaker 2: something like that. But that's for music.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, So what does distinguish.
Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I've actually never thought of that.
Speaker 2: I think style, you know, charisma, the way people and
Speaker 2: also just being so much better than everyone else. It's
Speaker 2: a really hard instrument to get really really great at
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So there's hitting the notes, but then there's a way
Speaker 1: to hit the notes pure or well.
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's like even some string musicians, some have
Speaker 2: better tone than others. And I don't even know how
Speaker 2: to explain that. It's almost like singing. It's like how
Speaker 2: somebody could be hitting the same pitch, but somebody's tone
Speaker 2: is just better. Right, It's like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's finesse, if that's just like more of a natural
Speaker 2: thing that you have it than someone else. I'm not
Speaker 2: really sure. But that's kind of where I stop, not
Speaker 2: stop playing, but decided it wasn't going to be a
Speaker 2: because of profession for me, because I realized I wasn't
Speaker 2: ever gonna be good enough to be the soloist, and
Speaker 2: they didn't want to be in an orchestra forever.
Speaker 1: Right. That's fascinating to me. I've never thought I mean,
Speaker 1: you said, you've never thought of it. I've never thought
Speaker 1: about that. The ability. Yeah. Yeah, when you're acting to
Speaker 1: say like, oh, go no, go with what you're feeling
Speaker 1: right now, go, Yeah, you can play around with this
Speaker 1: a little bit, and you're saying like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: tell me what the notes are. I'll hit the notes right,
Speaker 1: I'll hit the notes in the tambra, in the in
Speaker 1: the pace that you want me to.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating piano, I'm actually thinking, because at least with violin,
Speaker 2: it's like you have to hit all those notes. Piano,
Speaker 2: it's all there. So what makes a great pianist versus
Speaker 2: you know, if they can play the same music and
Speaker 2: they have to say, well, you're not even pitch at
Speaker 2: that point, because the pianos as long as you're hitting
Speaker 2: the keys or pitch perfect. So what makes a great pianist? Huh?
Speaker 2: I really think about this today.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to dive into this well
Speaker 1: because I'm also thinking about singers too, right, which in
Speaker 1: a way, I mean, once you get into opera, then
Speaker 1: there is performance, there's presence. But you know what makes
Speaker 1: the great singers of classical music? What makes them great?
Speaker 2: Emotion?
Speaker 1: The emotion that comes through the voice.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, being able to pull So maybe it's
Speaker 2: the same with as well. Yeah, it's being able to
Speaker 2: convey that emotion, pulling somebody in because.
Speaker 1: You feel it. I mean, I mean great classical music
Speaker 1: you feel yeah, and it is it the composer that
Speaker 1: makes you feel or is it the artist that's that
Speaker 1: has the instruments that makes you feel. I didn't think
Speaker 1: we were going to be talking about this, by the way,
Speaker 1: but I know, but I think this is very interesting
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: No, it is, for sure. I think it has to
Speaker 2: be a combination. Like obviously the it's like when you
Speaker 2: get a really great script, you're like, oh, the words
Speaker 2: speak for themselves, but you still have to put in
Speaker 2: that emotion and still so I think it's it's got
Speaker 2: to be a combination.
Speaker 3: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: So you had decided that that was not going to
Speaker 1: be your profession, though you still play it. You started
Speaker 1: modeling at age fifteen, and I have read that you
Speaker 1: have said that that was in order to get eventually
Speaker 1: into film and television. So even at fifteen, you saw
Speaker 1: this path, this was the path you wanted, and this
Speaker 1: was the path you decided to take.
Speaker 2: No. No, So I I went into modeling and not
Speaker 2: really knowing what I was doing. I got an agent,
Speaker 2: and I was very shy, and I didn't really love it.
Speaker 2: I found it to be very boring, and not to
Speaker 2: say that people don't have fun with it, but I
Speaker 2: personally was like, it's a lot of waiting around just
Speaker 2: to go take pictures. Like, I didn't really love it.
Speaker 2: And a photographer had said to my mom, you know
Speaker 2: she's very shy in front of the camera. You should
Speaker 2: put her in an acting class to kind of open
Speaker 2: her up. And so I went into an acting class,
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, this is what I want
Speaker 2: to do, not that, And so I kind of used
Speaker 2: modeling while I was still in high school, like commercials
Speaker 2: and commercial modeling to save up the money to move
Speaker 2: to La got it.
Speaker 1: What was it about the acting class that attracted you
Speaker 1: that made you say that this is what I want
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 2: I honestly just found it to be so fun. I
Speaker 2: am a very I could be very emotional and dramatic,
Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, I can do this just
Speaker 2: because I am having fun doing this, that's cool. It's
Speaker 2: not because I'm just like a teen in my bedroom
Speaker 2: being all emo. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: Were you taking like like did you do classical stuff?
Speaker 1: Were you doing acting for film and television or was
Speaker 1: it more theater. I know you did some theater in Orlando.
Speaker 2: I did some theater in Orlando. So I took a
Speaker 2: class outside of my school. I never did it in school,
Speaker 2: but this class was a scene study class. So that's
Speaker 2: kind of where I started, and I loved it, although
Speaker 2: admittedly I hated going to class. I still hate going
Speaker 2: to class. Like if I knew I was going to
Speaker 2: a class tonight at six, I would be thinking of
Speaker 2: excuses from now until that of why I can't show up.
Speaker 2: I just I hate showing up, But once I'm there,
Speaker 2: I love it. But I hated showing up, but it's
Speaker 2: a scene study class. And then back and Nickelodeon was
Speaker 2: actually still in Orlando. I don't think it had fully
Speaker 2: moved to LA yet, so there was like little extra
Speaker 2: work I did, and like I did a guest star
Speaker 2: on a CW well was WB a show that came
Speaker 2: into Jacksonville, and then like commercials for Bush Gardens and
Speaker 2: things like that, and I was like, I'm ready to
Speaker 2: move to LA and I was like, got there and
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: What Why did you Why did you think? No, you're not?
Speaker 1: Once you got there, I.
Speaker 2: Went into auditions and I was just so I hate
Speaker 2: using this term because I thought this term, I was like,
Speaker 2: what does that even mean? It was so green. I
Speaker 2: didn't know what I was doing. I thought, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: but haven't you seen my reel of riding the rollercoaster
Speaker 2: nine times? It's like, no, that doesn't cut it out here.
Speaker 2: I just I was so nervous. I was so green.
Speaker 2: I didn't yet know how to really like dig totally
Speaker 2: deep into my work. Like it was very superficial. When
Speaker 2: I moved out, and luckily I met this acting coach
Speaker 2: in LA that totally changed everything for me. He used
Speaker 2: to train under Larry Moss, and so I did like
Speaker 2: a Larry Moss intentive intensive as well and read his
Speaker 2: book and that was like something clicked for me there.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, like this way of
Speaker 2: breaking down a script and all that stuff really made
Speaker 2: sense to me and I it really changed my work,
Speaker 2: thank god.
Speaker 1: From the time you moved to LA though, you wanted
Speaker 1: to work in film and television.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I actually I went to a professional children's school.
Speaker 2: It was not really but in Orlando, and I graduated
Speaker 2: six months early. I got my manager and then I'm like,
Speaker 2: the month I moved turned eighteen, I moved to LA.
Speaker 1: So you were on a path even in Orlando. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what age did you decided. I mean, you start modeling
Speaker 1: at fifteen, you take this class, So was it by
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen you're like, oh, this is this is what
Speaker 1: I want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You got on a number of shows pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: Safe Harbor, No One Knows Best, I don't know that one,
Speaker 1: Drake and Josh Dawson's Creek, to name a few. What
Speaker 1: were those early experiences like for you just being on
Speaker 1: a set for the first times.
Speaker 2: So the Safe Harbor, No Knows Best actually were the
Speaker 2: two I did in high school before moving to LA.
Speaker 2: The Safe Harbor filmed in Jacksonville, and then No One
Speaker 2: Knows Best was in Orlando at Nickelodeon, and I remember
Speaker 2: that being very fun. I was so nervous. I had
Speaker 2: one line on Safe Harbor and I was so nervous.
Speaker 2: But I remember thinking like, oh, this was so fun
Speaker 2: that when I left, I was like, I want more.
Speaker 2: I remember, this is going to say probably another pretentious remark,
Speaker 2: but and ridiculous, when I booked Dawson's Creek. I I
Speaker 2: think I'd been in LA less than a year, and
Speaker 2: I remember sitting on the balcony and being like I
Speaker 2: made it. I was like, oh my god, I can
Speaker 2: call all my friends at home and tell them I
Speaker 2: have made it. And I have like two lines. And
Speaker 2: I thought because it was such a big show, I
Speaker 2: was like, that's it, like and no, that's not it,
Speaker 2: and that's not how it works. But it was weird.
Speaker 2: I remember I had to show up so early. They
Speaker 2: didn't turn the heat on in my trailer, you know,
Speaker 2: because I'm like barely a character, so they don't care
Speaker 2: about me. I was freezing my ass off. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is the life I wanted. What
Speaker 2: is this? So this is scary?
Speaker 1: But was this? Was this back in North Carolina?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I had to fly, so you flew.
Speaker 1: I mean this is this becomes a real job when
Speaker 1: you get when you get on a plane and you
Speaker 1: have an itinerary and someone picks you up and you
Speaker 1: go to a hotel. Yeah yeah was that? Oh but
Speaker 1: so this wasn't You were like, I made it, this
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: And what's ironic is I remember when I was in
Speaker 2: eighth grade, was when Dawson's Creek came out. And in
Speaker 2: the pilot episode, I think one of the characters, I
Speaker 2: think Katie Holmes actually suggests giving a blowjob, and my
Speaker 2: mom walked in and she was like, you're not watching this.
Speaker 2: So I found it so ironic that that was the
Speaker 2: first job I got. I was like, aha, mom, Dawson's Creek.
Speaker 1: Oh my, I mean it was a huge show at
Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, and everyone was like exploding off of it.
Speaker 1: What were they nice to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know. I did this episode where I was
Speaker 2: one of the college kids in the audience asking do
Speaker 2: you remember Loveline with Doctor Drew and were in the
Speaker 2: episode answering questions for college and one of the episodes
Speaker 2: I really had to ask questions was is it okaytie?
Speaker 2: He's a vibrator. So not only was I like haha,
Speaker 2: mom my mom on Dawson's Creek, but I'm like, now
Speaker 2: I'm making the comments you didn't want me to hear. Oh.
Speaker 2: It was like a double sticking to the man. But
Speaker 2: it was nerve wracking. Joshua Jackson, one of the stars
Speaker 2: of Dawson's Creek, was actually directing that episode, so it
Speaker 2: was a little late later in the seasons, but he
Speaker 2: was only when I met and I met Katie Holmes
Speaker 2: in the the hair and makeup trailer, and I remember
Speaker 2: being like, but I didn't get to work with anybody else.
Speaker 1: Really, Okay, you eventually get cast as Karen on an
Speaker 1: ABC family show, Beautiful People. This is your first regular job. Well,
Speaker 1: first off, was this just an audition? You auditioned and
Speaker 1: went through the process. So this is your first time
Speaker 1: kind of going through that studio network process, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was my first time screen testing like that.
Speaker 2: It was so nerve wracking, and it was like I
Speaker 2: did it from the zero to one hundred, like casting callback,
Speaker 2: with casting callback with director, call back with director and producers,
Speaker 2: and then they had already cast the woman playing my mom,
Speaker 2: who was Daphnie's uniga, and so they were like, we're
Speaker 2: going to do chemistry reads with Daphney. So I had
Speaker 2: to do that and I did to do chemistry with
Speaker 2: my sister. Then you have to do the network, then
Speaker 2: you have to do the studio. And I think I
Speaker 2: blacked out every time. I couldn't believe I got the job.
Speaker 1: Wow. Was that another moment where you felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I thought I had made it before, but now
Speaker 1: I've this is actually a job. I've got my name.
Speaker 1: They'll turn the heat on before I get there, like
Speaker 1: so they all have heat this is an important step.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, it felt really exciting because we had
Speaker 2: to relocate to Toronto, so I had to find an
Speaker 2: apartment and you know then it was the first time,
Speaker 2: like we had to do upfronts in New York and
Speaker 2: they flows down and they put me up at the
Speaker 2: Ritz Carlton in Central Park and I was like, these
Speaker 2: pillows are like clouds. What am I sleeping on right now?
Speaker 2: Like it was just it was yeah, everything was new
Speaker 2: and different, and I turned twenty one during that upfront stay.
Speaker 2: I remember on that day and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is so cool, Like this is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that those times as well. I mean
Speaker 1: like going to New York, having the shows announced and
Speaker 1: the advertisers and they treat you very nice, at least
Speaker 1: for two or three days. It's yeah, it's very fun.
Speaker 1: You You also got an opportunity to play a villain
Speaker 1: on One Tree Hill, Nanny Carrey. This is another huge show.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder I'd have to go back and
Speaker 1: look how many people were on Dawson's Creek and One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, sort of the may Your shows of that time.
Speaker 1: I know, how was it for you? Joining that cast?
Speaker 2: That was super saying that was the time that you know,
Speaker 2: because the show that I was a series regular on,
Speaker 2: I knew it was on ABC Family and it was
Speaker 2: its first scripted series, so it was like, Okay, it's
Speaker 2: not going to be like the lead on a CW
Speaker 2: show because it's a new network for scripted. So but
Speaker 2: One Tree Hill was such a huge show and I
Speaker 2: was actually doing a really big arc. I ended up
Speaker 2: doing like sixteen episodes or something or I don't know,
Speaker 2: something like that, and I was so nervous, like when
Speaker 2: I tell people my nerves, like I think for the
Speaker 2: first like five episodes, I was like shaking in every scene.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get a hold of myself. Luckily you couldn't
Speaker 2: see it, but I was so nervous, and I remember
Speaker 2: it was it was a really pivotal moment for me
Speaker 2: in our industry because I went on to set and
Speaker 2: the girl that I had to play opposite against most
Speaker 2: of the time, one of the series regular's Joy. She
Speaker 2: was so kind to me, and she put this like
Speaker 2: male letter opener in my trailers, like all the fan mail.
Speaker 2: She was just so sweet. Everybody else that I met,
Speaker 2: I felt like there was a lot of big egos
Speaker 2: on that show, and I'd never really stepped into that before.
Speaker 2: And when you're in the space, you know, we're in
Speaker 2: this reconditioned air all day. You don't see if it's light,
Speaker 2: if it's dark outside, and then you're with a lot
Speaker 2: of egos like that, it can get a little depressing.
Speaker 2: And I got really depressed, and I thought to myself,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm in the position I've always
Speaker 2: wanted to be in. I'm on a show that is
Speaker 2: so big, and I got to play this crazy nanny
Speaker 2: that got to do so many cool things. So I
Speaker 2: was like really grateful for that. I wasn't my girlfriend
Speaker 2: number one anymore, but I was like so depressed. And
Speaker 2: I think also my childhood of growing up around people
Speaker 2: like Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks and who I knew
Speaker 2: to be very giving and generous people, and whether they
Speaker 2: acted a different way around the kids, I'll never know,
Speaker 2: but around us they were always just normal people who
Speaker 2: were very humble. And then when I'm around people that
Speaker 2: are on the CW and can't even make eye contact
Speaker 2: with you, it's like, wait, what what are you talking
Speaker 2: about here? So yeah, I remember going home for a
Speaker 2: break from that show and being like, I have got
Speaker 2: to also do something other than just acting to get
Speaker 2: my head out of justice, because I'm not going to
Speaker 2: fall in with these people. I can't.
Speaker 1: Hm, that's unfortunate. Yeah, I had this opportunity. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was that was filmed away too, right? Was
Speaker 1: that in? Was that in North Carolina too?
Speaker 2: Yes? It was in the same stages as Dawson's Creek.
Speaker 1: I ended up working there years later after Town William
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, Wilmington.
Speaker 1: Yes, loved it, loved it, loved being there, loved those stages.
Speaker 1: They weren't as vibrant as they were when you were
Speaker 1: there because a lot of stuff had moved to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other conversation. So that's got to
Speaker 1: be very difficult to be away from your support system
Speaker 1: and there and being and having an experience that was
Speaker 1: that was that was difficult.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very intimidated, for sure, But I'm grateful
Speaker 2: I had that experience because it really showed me even
Speaker 2: more the kind of artists and actor I wanted to
Speaker 2: be and just how none of this matters. We're doing
Speaker 2: it because we love it and we're not saving lives.
Speaker 2: So check your ego at the door and have fun
Speaker 2: or don't be here, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So really kind of solidified all of that from me,
Speaker 2: which I think was important.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it's I'm sorry that you had
Speaker 1: to go through that experience, but I think, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think for me, I mean, I was just thinking about myself.
Speaker 1: I think I learned it the opposite way, because when
Speaker 1: I started, there were people who were just so great,
Speaker 1: like truly, like so great and so generous, and so
Speaker 1: ego checked and you know, becoming quickly or already having
Speaker 1: achieved like legend status. Yeah, and yeah, it I think
Speaker 1: it taught me how I want to be as like them,
Speaker 1: whereas it feels like you may have gotten the same
Speaker 1: but from sort of a different place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I find that I find that with a
Speaker 2: lot of people. The more I look at somebody's resume
Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa, look at everything they've done, the
Speaker 2: more awesome they are to work with. Most likely, you know,
Speaker 2: when I was doing Chicago Med with you know, Oliver
Speaker 2: Platt and se Payson Merkerson, they could not be cooler,
Speaker 2: like just the best human beings on the planet. And
Speaker 2: so I'm like, yeah, you're awesome.
Speaker 1: You said before you discover that you needed to find
Speaker 1: something else. What was the other thing that you found?
Speaker 1: A farm? I won Michigan.
Speaker 2: That was later in life, Okay, No, I actually I
Speaker 2: wanted to volunteer somewhere, and I found hospice work. And
Speaker 2: I didn't even know what hospice was. It like popped
Speaker 2: up on one of my searches, and I started doing
Speaker 2: inpatient care and I loved it so much, and then
Speaker 2: so much so I was talking to somebody who did
Speaker 2: something and they were like, you know, not enough people
Speaker 2: know about hospice volunteering. You should talk to like the
Speaker 2: mothership hospice and see if they need like a spokesperson.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, So then I started talking to
Speaker 2: them and I started actually doing work with them and
Speaker 2: bringing awareness this hospice while I was still doing inpatient care,
Speaker 2: and I did it for almost a day decade. I
Speaker 2: stopped during the pandemic because we couldn't do in person anymore.
Speaker 2: And then now just being at the farm, I haven't
Speaker 2: sought out another hospice.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's so important and valuable and that's got
Speaker 1: to feed you, right exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what and that's what I need it because a
Speaker 2: lot of I feel like what we do is so
Speaker 2: like we have so much focus on ourselves and how
Speaker 2: is my performance? I have to be in my emotion
Speaker 2: to that to be able to get out of that
Speaker 2: and focus on somebody else who's literally dying and they
Speaker 2: just want to tell their story and all you can
Speaker 2: do is be present for them, really help it, Like
Speaker 2: helped refocus me for sure.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Melissa, the Hastings, Pretty Little Liars another, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're it's crazy. When I was looking at like your
Speaker 1: Dawson's Creek and One Tree Hill, Pretty Little Liars, Vampire Diaries,
Speaker 1: there's I don't even know how you define this niche.
Speaker 2: That you have. Do you hit the teen mecca?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Is it like a teen mecca?
Speaker 2: I think? So I really did?
Speaker 1: Should I look? I should? I should know? No, No,
Speaker 1: gossip Girls. I don't see gossip girls.
Speaker 2: Gossip Girls. I just did though. I was doing One
Speaker 2: Tree Hill and then I did Pretty Little Liars and
Speaker 2: Vampies at the same time, and so they were all
Speaker 2: back to back, so it was it was a pretty
Speaker 2: trippy experience all.
Speaker 1: Those shows you were shooting simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Pretty Little Liars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, okay, like on your off time or going
Speaker 1: back in fourth, going.
Speaker 2: Back and forth. And that's when I learned the value
Speaker 2: of getting really really cool because I did a recurring
Speaker 2: on Pretty Lot Liars the all seven seasons and I
Speaker 2: loved that. I was like, oh my god, it's so
Speaker 2: fun to do recurrings because you're not locked into anybody,
Speaker 2: and if you get a really really sick one, then
Speaker 2: you can like go do something else and you're not
Speaker 2: locked in. I was like, Oh, this is the value
Speaker 2: of maybe not being contractually obligated to just write the show.
Speaker 2: It's really cool.
Speaker 1: Right, was working in I don't know, fantasy, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess that's what you would call vampire. Is it fantasy?
Speaker 1: Did you feel like that was different in some way
Speaker 1: the approach to the work or is it? Is it
Speaker 1: just the character is and that's a given circumstance of
Speaker 1: the character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a given circumstance for sure. And I
Speaker 2: felt like you had to just play it the way
Speaker 2: you play anything else or else it's going to seem
Speaker 2: ridiculous even more so than maybe.
Speaker 1: Right right, right, Well, that makes sense. It's funny we
Speaker 1: share something in common which is all of those shows
Speaker 1: I was not on. It's very weird. It's no, it's
Speaker 1: very it's very weird. It's a weird thing. But oh,
Speaker 1: we do have a little overlap. Corey, you entered eventually
Speaker 1: the universe of Dick Wolf. Yes, I did the Chicago
Speaker 1: Monopoly that or the Stranglehold. I mean, Jimmy Hoffa was
Speaker 1: big in Chicago, but then came Dick Wolf. Talk to
Speaker 1: me a little bit about how you got cast, because
Speaker 1: this is a different universe than where you had been
Speaker 1: playing previously, doctor Natalie Manning on Chicago Med. Now I
Speaker 1: know you did some overlap on Fire and PD, but
Speaker 1: you were you were cast on Chicago Met. Talk to
Speaker 1: me about how that, how that happened.
Speaker 2: I went in, I did one audition, and Dick Wolf
Speaker 2: cast off tape, which I find to be wild, and
Speaker 2: so the tape just went to the network and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, which is kind of grueling in its own
Speaker 2: way because you have so much time to overthink everything
Speaker 2: you did and didn't do, and you're like, oh, I
Speaker 2: wish I had one more chance, and it's just a
Speaker 2: ta and you have to wait so long. But that
Speaker 2: was the process, and I remember I was so excited
Speaker 2: because kind of embarrassingly and admittedly, when I got Pretty
Speaker 2: Little Liars, I didn't want to go in for the
Speaker 2: audition because it was on ABC Family again for a
Speaker 2: free form it was at that time, and I was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: I really I want to get out of this team thing.
Speaker 2: I like, I'm ready to be an adult, you know.
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad I didn't because Pretty Little Liars
Speaker 2: ended up being really doing so many things for me.
Speaker 2: It was amazing. So when I hit med, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm an adult, Like this is so cool,
Speaker 2: Like I'm playing a doctor, I'm working opposite like really
Speaker 2: amazing actors. And then I got to set and it
Speaker 2: was a whole new set of worries. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm out of my league. What am I doing here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Did you They're gonna fire me? No? I yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean I overthink everything and I have like slow anxiety
Speaker 2: that's always like riding right under my chest. But so
Speaker 2: I for sure I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: going to mess all this up. I thought I was
Speaker 2: gonna get fired probably every day of season one, season two.
Speaker 2: I started to settling to myself, Wait, so but.
Speaker 1: This is what you're saying is crazy. You did one
Speaker 1: tape to be cast straight as a serious regular, yes, for.
Speaker 2: The pilot, on which I find to be crazy too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just one tape.
Speaker 1: That's insane. So they just kept sending the same tape.
Speaker 2: The same tape. And I did the tape with you know,
Speaker 2: casting right, so I didn't do it at home. But yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: all the people making the decisions just saw that one tape.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest casting process of all time. I no,
Speaker 1: I envy that. That's incredible. That's incredible. You say you
Speaker 1: felt like you were out of your league, but I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you're working with a lot of amazing actors, some of
Speaker 1: which you mentioned before. But you're also you're doing now
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to twenty four episode seasons as opposed
Speaker 1: to not that many on most of the other shows,
Speaker 1: or doing as you mentioned before, like recurring arcs and
Speaker 1: going and coming back or whatever. Was that grind difficult
Speaker 1: for you? Was that a new muscle for you?
Speaker 2: It was a new muscle in the sense of, especially
Speaker 2: on medical procedural dramas, you can only find so many
Speaker 2: ways to say we'll be back to check on you shortly.
Speaker 2: Interesting and so that was like a muscle I had
Speaker 2: to because I was like, you know, I do feel
Speaker 2: like sometimes when actors are doing you know, twenty two
Speaker 2: episodes on a primetime drama, there is a little bit
Speaker 2: a bit of complacency that gets set in probably around
Speaker 2: season three, four, five, six, and trying to work against
Speaker 2: that and being like, no, I want this to feel
Speaker 2: fresh every episode. You know, I gotta show up do
Speaker 2: it because on procedurals, a lot of the episodes are
Speaker 2: really guests are heavy too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that sometimes that's when I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's you know, I love doing all those fun recurrings
Speaker 2: because like the episode you do, you have so much
Speaker 2: to do, and sometimes when you're this series regular, it's
Speaker 2: it's not that way. And I was like, okay, so
Speaker 2: keeping that fresh and interesting was a new muscle for sure.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. I was Chicago Fire.
Speaker 4: Oh fun.
Speaker 2: How long did you do that?
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I showed. I was one
Speaker 1: of those guest stars you were talking about. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember. I think it was one,
Speaker 1: maybe two. Yeah, that I did.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was a law I was a smarmy lawyer and
Speaker 1: went and it was great and I had a great time.
Speaker 1: Everybody was so nice, and all I remember was it
Speaker 1: was hot hot in Chicago, like hot. We were filming
Speaker 1: for it to be cold cold. And I remember this
Speaker 1: bar that they had built that we were all we
Speaker 1: had all we were all entering into with coats on
Speaker 1: and jackets and scarves and out of the snow, and
Speaker 1: it was nine million degrees in there. And I was like, God, damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to survive this night.
Speaker 1: It was like this night shoot. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is how do these people do it? It's crazy. Not
Speaker 1: that I hadn't done that before, but there was something
Speaker 1: about it there that I was like, this is oppressively
Speaker 1: hot and we're all in like wool coats and scarves
Speaker 1: and gloves and.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the weather is a key star of those shows.
Speaker 1: Of those shows. Yeah, I mean I imagine when it
Speaker 1: is really cold and snowing, it's got to be incredibly difficult.
Speaker 2: Yes, because at that point you're wearing spring jackets because
Speaker 2: that's those are the episodes that are going to film
Speaker 2: the spring, and you're outside trying not to like show
Speaker 2: the frostbite on your eyelashers you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: him dying.
Speaker 1: You did the show for a very long time. You
Speaker 1: did leave at a certain point, then you came back
Speaker 1: once you ended for good. Were you Was it time
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was time for me. Also, they kind of
Speaker 2: wrote my character into a hole with a bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff they were doing, and I don't think they knew
Speaker 2: how to get her out. So it was definitely a mutual,
Speaker 2: mutual decision on moving forward. And I was really grateful
Speaker 2: for that moment with them and having that conversation, because
Speaker 2: I don't think I would have been brave enough to
Speaker 2: just leave on my own, even though I want to
Speaker 2: do at that point, because it is such an art industry,
Speaker 2: it's hard to find security, and shows like that give
Speaker 2: you massive security. But I also was like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: think it's time to get out there and do something else.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, I was about to be forty,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I still want to have a family
Speaker 2: and kids and so many things, and I just felt
Speaker 2: like I couldn't do that if I stayed much longer.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was time. It was time to go.
Speaker 1: But when you went, when you had gone back, were
Speaker 1: those planned in advance or they called, and you were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll come back and play for a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they called, and it was just because so I
Speaker 2: had one character, we had a whole romance the whole
Speaker 2: time I was there, and his character was leaving the show,
Speaker 2: and they wanted to make it like they were leaving
Speaker 2: to be together finally. And I was actually very happy
Speaker 2: to do that because I felt like we did not
Speaker 2: get the ending that they deserved at all. So and
Speaker 2: also he became like a brother to me, so I
Speaker 2: really like the incentive to go back was basically to
Speaker 2: support his leaving and to kind of have our characters
Speaker 2: have that last moment.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Horror movies.
Speaker 4: Love them.
Speaker 1: I love them, love them, love to watch them, love
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 4: In a love to do them, love all of it,
Speaker 4: see all of it, all of it.
Speaker 1: Why what is it? Oh, I'm fascinating.
Speaker 2: I haven't been in one in a very long time,
Speaker 2: and I keep saying, My that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I'm really smart. Like a really good horror movie. I
Speaker 2: love being scared, like horror movies with really great jump scares.
Speaker 2: I love although watching them alone at the farm just
Speaker 2: hits different than anywhere else. That is a little a
Speaker 2: little much for me, but I just love them. I
Speaker 2: find them to be so fun.
Speaker 1: So that's your that's the's what you want to do next.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to do a really good horror movie
Speaker 2: because you.
Speaker 1: Because you're I mean, you're you're a what do you
Speaker 1: call it, a something wrapped in an enigma? You're so
Speaker 1: you've got I can't I can't even think of the
Speaker 1: phrase New.
Speaker 4: York, Florida.
Speaker 1: Classical Violinist, One Tree Hill, Hallmark Christmas Movies. I mean
Speaker 1: you literally it's a dichotomy wrapped in I'll think of
Speaker 1: the phrase at some point, Like, So, do you just
Speaker 1: love it all? You like exploring whatever it is and
Speaker 1: whatever opportunities you have, you just say, let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I always had friends that were so picky
Speaker 2: and would turn things down all the time. And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying I haven't turned things down because obviously there's
Speaker 2: some stuff that's come through just like, oh, okay, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'll be doing that, but but I've
Speaker 2: always said, like, if I feel like I could have
Speaker 2: fun with the character and I want to do it,
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. I So I just like
Speaker 2: kind of testing everything really, that's great.
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy Have you enjoyed? I mean you've done
Speaker 1: a few Hallmark Christmas movies? You enjoy doing that? Making
Speaker 1: people happy?
Speaker 2: I do? You know? Think made my grandma so And honestly,
Speaker 2: it was the last thing she was watching before she passed.
Speaker 2: As she was passing, she would just watch it on
Speaker 2: repeat the one I did, and I just I did
Speaker 2: like it because I felt like to, like in between
Speaker 2: meds sometimes over the summer, if one that would come
Speaker 2: in that I thought was endearing would come through. And
Speaker 2: the only filmed like three and a half weeks, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's a very short amount of time.
Speaker 2: And the last one I did, I got to go
Speaker 2: to Greece and travel and I was like, yeah, I'm like, sure,
Speaker 2: of course I'll go to Santorini and film for three
Speaker 2: and a half weeks. And why why not?
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've done one. Mine wasn't Christmas Chris.
Speaker 1: There is something different about the Christmas wins for sure.
Speaker 1: In fact, mine was a procedural or something not really No, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't really a procedural. I was a doctor, That's
Speaker 1: why I was saying it. But yeah, no, I I
Speaker 1: get that. And by the way, like you say, you know,
Speaker 1: doing it for your grandma, I mean that's just like
Speaker 1: people saying they do it, you know, animated stuff for
Speaker 1: their kids, or they do children shows for their kids.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's entertainment and having the opportunity,
Speaker 1: you know, to what you have done something wrapped in
Speaker 1: an enigma. I don't know, it's like killing me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean having an opportunity also makes you exposed to
Speaker 1: such an incredible diverse body of people. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the opportunities that you have had working in all of
Speaker 1: the different genres and all of the different types on
Speaker 1: all of the different networks. Yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, I have to say one thing
Speaker 2: I love is when I work in an environment where
Speaker 2: you feel valued, where everybody feels valued, and it becomes
Speaker 2: and I have to say, out of everyone I've worked with,
Speaker 2: homework really makes me feel like a part of their
Speaker 2: team more than anybody else. Like every birthday I hear
Speaker 2: from them, Miles, so I got engaged. I heard from Falmark,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, they just make
Speaker 2: you feel valued. And I think nowadays it's very popular
Speaker 2: to get on a show even as a serious regular,
Speaker 2: and they're like, listen, if it's not, you would be
Speaker 2: someone else, So don't ask us for too much. And
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, but makes you feel.
Speaker 1: Loved, And I love that, dude, there is value in that.
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell there is value in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm not mentioning any names, but
Speaker 1: you know, there's companies that I've worked with for ten
Speaker 1: years and I'll get a coffee cup on the way
Speaker 1: out the door. Totally, I can't not mentioning any names,
Speaker 1: but it's as possible that may have happened to me
Speaker 1: in the past. Uh No, that's that's that's great. And
Speaker 1: I actually have some very good friends who have worked
Speaker 1: for Hallmark and love it as well, and that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's important. Look, I mean, whatever it is that we're exploring,
Speaker 1: and clearly you're willing to go to a lot of
Speaker 1: different places. If you haven't seen the right by the way, like,
Speaker 1: that's not Hallmark, it's a spoiler alert. That's that's very cool. Well, look,
Speaker 1: I know you have to take care of your goats
Speaker 1: right now. I think that there should be some chickens
Speaker 1: for sure. Next time we chat. I want chickens, alpacas,
Speaker 1: that's got to be an investments. Yeah, pigs, I just
Speaker 1: saw pigs. Yeah, they do tricks, by the way, I
Speaker 1: just I just saw. I just was introduced to a
Speaker 1: pig that did tricks.
Speaker 2: They're very smart. I'm thinking a pig and a donkey
Speaker 2: or next, Well, you know.
Speaker 1: My my ex coworker, he is a zonkey.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he has a he has a donkey and
Speaker 1: pigs and he lives on a farm. And what does
Speaker 1: he have. He has a lot of weird, weird peacocks.
Speaker 1: I think they're so loud albino people. They're very loud.
Speaker 1: They're very very that. Yes, that's see. You know, not
Speaker 1: a lot of people know that. They're very very loud. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think at least some chickens. Do you eat eggs?
Speaker 2: I do eat eggs. So my duck has started laying eggs,
Speaker 2: but I can't.
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like chicken eggs, but they're bigger, and
Speaker 2: apparently they make baking even fluffier. So I've heard. I can't.
Speaker 1: We need to we need to share that sound, we
Speaker 1: need to clip that sound. But right there, they make
Speaker 1: baking even fluffier. I don't. Yeah, am I sounding like
Speaker 1: a rube? I don't know. I've never heard of duck
Speaker 1: egg you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you cook with duck eggs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And people people you know eat?
Speaker 1: Do you fry up duck eggs?
Speaker 2: Uh? Huh? It looks just like the yolk is just bigger,
Speaker 2: and sometimes it's a little more orange than chicken eggs.
Speaker 2: But it looks just like a chicken egg, just bigger.
Speaker 1: Are you eating them?
Speaker 2: No? I can't. It's like too personal or something like
Speaker 2: I know her, you know what I mean. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: But what do you do with the eggs?
Speaker 2: They just I give them to my fiance's brother, and
Speaker 2: he loves them.
Speaker 1: Oh, he will eat it.
Speaker 2: He eats them. Yeah, and he sent me sure, he
Speaker 2: cried it up. He had it all. It looks like
Speaker 2: a fried egg.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up that phrase that I keep screwing up,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna look up duck eggs because I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard quail eggs. I've heard
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, duck eggs.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah, all right, Well, good luck with the ducks.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think a pig, maybe a donkey, definitely somebolpacas.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I want. I'll pacus for you.
Speaker 1: I just do. Good luck, it's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Good Luck in whatever genre field you end up in next.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt that it will be but be
Speaker 1: very interesting if you can pull yourself away from the farm.
Speaker 2: I know, right, I mean, it's gotta be. Really, it's
Speaker 2: gotta be a good horror movie, just for anyone out
Speaker 2: there to pull me away from the farm.
Speaker 1: Good. That's what we're looking for. A good horror movie
Speaker 1: is all you're leaving the farm for. Is that what
Speaker 1: they're saying. If HBO calls, you're like, nope, I just
Speaker 1: need a horror movie.
Speaker 2: Spielberg, Nope, nope, not sure. I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: Just horror. Just Saw twelve is what we're looking for,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, I'll get my people on it.
Speaker 1: We'll get it done. Tory, thank you so much, and
Speaker 1: good luck. I hope truly that you find some time
Speaker 1: from the farm to continue the important, important work that
Speaker 1: you're doing with hospice and end of your care. And
Speaker 1: I know that that gives a lot to other people,
Speaker 1: but also for yourself. So God bless you and very
Speaker 1: very nice chatting with you.
Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on, he was well, Thank you, Tory.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for being here. Look, you are a woman
Speaker 1: of many, many talents. You truly are a riddle wrapped
Speaker 1: in a mystery inside and enigma nailed it finally.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: That's the praise I was dying to find for the
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