1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Do you eat eggs? 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 2: I do eat eggs. So my duck has started laying eggs, 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: but I can't. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're eggs groups, just like chicken eggs, but they're bigger, 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: and apparently they make baking even fluffier. So I've heard. 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: I can't. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: We need to we need to share that sound, we 9 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: need to clip that sound. But right there, they make 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: baking even fluffier. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Toriy Devido and I don't eat duck eggs. 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, it's so good to have you back here 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: on Off the Beat, and I am delighted. I'm pleased 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: as punch to be your host. Brian Baumgartner, my guest 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: today is Well some might call a violin prodigy. Yep, 16 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: toy to veto. Now. I didn't say she was necessarily 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: famous for playing the violin, mind you, but she's very 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: very good at it from everything she led me to believe. 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Tory is, of course a fantastic actor. You may know 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: her from a number of different shows, Nanny Carey on 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: One Tree Hill, Melissa on Pretty Little Liars, or Doctor 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Natalie Manning on Chicago Med. She's also been playing the 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: violin since she was very little. She even played at 24 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: Christy Brinkley's wedding and on Stevie Nick's album. So she 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: is not only very talented, she's also very very cool. 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: You'll find out how she went from touring with the 27 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: likes of Billie Joel to traveling the world as a 28 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: fashion model to now living on a small farm in 29 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: rural Michigan that does not currently have any pigs. Let's 30 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: hear it straight from her, the absolutely delightful Tory DeVito. 31 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and squeak, Bubble 32 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: and Squeaker, cook it every more. Lift over from the 33 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: Nine People. 34 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: Hi, Torri, Hi, how are you? 35 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm all right? How are you doing? 36 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: Pretty good? 37 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, no one, no one. I always say 38 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: I can't complain because no one would care anyway, I 39 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: would care how you're doing. But uh yeah, where where 40 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: are you right now? 41 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm in Michigan. I live full time in Michigan. 42 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: Michigan. 43 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: H wow, Yeah, I don't. 44 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't get a lot of Michigan. Where in Michigan. 45 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: So I live near a town called Saugatuck, Okay, And 46 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: I have a I have a farm there and then 47 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: we also have a place about an hour away from 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: the farm in Kalamazoo where my fiance works. Okay, but 49 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: I moved to Michigan, uh because I just love it. 50 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 2: Before I met him, before anything, I just I love 51 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: I love Michigan. And I was like, I'm done with La. 52 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm stick of LA staying in Michigan. 53 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: You're staying in Michigan. Good for you. I had a 54 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: great experience with one of my old co workers there 55 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: in uh what I say, Grand Rapids and oh yeah 56 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: and big big Rapids. 57 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Grand Rapids is like an hour from me, and there's. 58 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: A Big Rapids. That's where the college I was at 59 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: a college there, Right, big Rapids. 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: I think. So I know there's I only know Grand 61 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: Rapids personally, but I know there's all sorts of rapids, 62 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: which I didn't know. There was so much about Michigan. 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 64 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, you you grew up in New York or you 65 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: were born in New York, I understand. So, yeah, you 66 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: falling in love with Michigan. That doesn't sound on brand. 67 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: No, Well, my mother's from Michigan, and so we did 68 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: come here to visit her family for the summers. So 69 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: I had a little bit of a background with Michigan, 70 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 2: but when we would visit them, I didn't feel connected 71 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: to Michigan. Then it was I was filming in Chicago 72 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: and my mom had moved to this little town in 73 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: Michigan that's on the water, a very artsy, cute community 74 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: that you see in movies and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, 75 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: but it really exists. And I'd come up on my 76 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: weekends because it was a two hour drive to Chicago. 77 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: I just fell in love with it. So during the pandemic, 78 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: I was like, that's it, I'm out. Just stayed. 79 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. I have some friends. It's exactly what you said 80 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: when they were like, we summer in Michigan and this 81 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: is from Atlanta, Georgia are in Michigan. Like what does 82 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: that even mean? But the lake there is very beautiful. 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: And do you boat? Are you like? Are you like 84 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: an outdoors I mean you. 85 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: Have a farm. 86 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's on your farm? 87 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: What do you have on your farm? 88 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: I have two goats and two ducks and two dogs 89 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: and two cats. 90 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Okay, goats, that's exotic. You don't have like alpacas and. 91 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: No, no, it's no. I think I'm sticking with this 92 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: for now. I obviously would like to expand. But you know, 93 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: one step at a time, at a time. 94 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: But you're I moved to Michigan. Give me a break. 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I already did the step. 96 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: One step at a time. But no, I love it. 97 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: I love being in nature. I love getting to walk outside. 98 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 2: I love that it's just more pure here. 99 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: Okay, fine, pure. 100 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: The air is cleaner, things are just cleaner. You know, 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: I can just outside, Yes, and I'm not inundated with 102 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: city crap, you know. Yes, But I'm two hours from Chicago, 103 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: so if I need that hit, it's right there, take 104 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: a two hour drive. 105 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah right. 106 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I do know that you're wearing overalls right now. 107 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if those are like I don't know 108 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: if those are like Levi's though. Those seem a little 109 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: bit more like like overalls you would wear a New 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: York or Chicago. But I'm just their corduroy. Yeah, I 111 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see goat debris on the Okay, yeah, 112 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: small steps, I understand. Small steps. 113 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: You to move the move designer overalls. Then we'll get 114 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 2: to the non designer overall soon. 115 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: Okay. All right, baby steps, baby steps. Uh, you had 116 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: a fascinating childhood. I know, I'm not the first to 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: tell you this. Your parents, they were in the music industry. 118 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: You as a child, you went on tours. I'm guessing 119 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: with people like, oh, I don't know, like Billy Joel 120 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: and Stevie Nicks. Tell me a little bit about your 121 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: your childhood. Your dad was the drummer for for Billy Joel. 122 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: Yes, my dad played with Billy for thirty. 123 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: Years years stop. 124 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, a long time. They met when they were like 125 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: nineteen years old or something on Long Island. Yeah, so 126 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: I grew up going on tour. Alexa, his daughter is 127 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: in between my age and my sister's age, so we 128 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: all grew up together. And yeah, it was. It's so 129 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: I feel so pretentious when I'm like, I don't know 130 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: any other childhood. So when people say like, oh, it's 131 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: such an interesting channel, and I'm like, yeah, but what 132 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: is it like when your parents are like doctors like that, 133 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: what they save a lot? That's crazy, you know, like, 134 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: what is that? So? Yeah, but I mean, look, it's 135 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: my dad still. He's playing all the time and every 136 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: time I go visit him. He's in a new band 137 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: right now called the slim Kings, and also the original 138 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: Billy Joel guys play together and tour, so he's always 139 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: doing something, so there's always something going on and I 140 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: love it. 141 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: By the way, it did sound pretentious. I how many 142 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: times have you heard piano man live live live? A lot, 143 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: a lot. 144 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: But what's funny is I actually could not sing a 145 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: full Billy Joel's song start to finish all the lyrics 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: because I would go to the shows and then sometimes 147 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: we would be playing backstage or whatever. We didn't really 148 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: sit through the whole show. And I never listened to 149 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: it until honestly, kind of recently, I'm like, man, these 150 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: are really good songs. Not that I couldn't acknowledge that, 151 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: but it's like it's your dad's you know what I mean. 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: I wasn't sitting in my bedroom listening to Billy Joel, 153 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: So people, I think, always find that funny that I might. 154 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: I don't know all the work, Like I don't know 155 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: every song. 156 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: So he was a drummer, Yeah, was constant? Was that 157 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: sound the sound of your childhood? Like do you do 158 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: you remember hearing that from I don't know, from the garage, 159 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: from the guest bedroom, whatever, Like constantly hearing music and 160 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: experiencing music as you were growing up. 161 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 2: Absolutely to this day. It's like, even if we're at 162 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: a restaurant, he's constantly like with like the fork and 163 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: a knife doing something and I'm like, Dad, everybody wants 164 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: to hear this right now, like take it down a notch. 165 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, No, he had a drum set and we 166 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: had my parents had this office room. He had a 167 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: drum set in there, and when they would be on hiatus, 168 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: he was always playing with other people you know around 169 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: that would come over and just have like jam sessions 170 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: all the time in the house. And he was always 171 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: playing loud music. And I think one of the things 172 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: I wish I would have been more into. But you know, 173 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: as a daughter, I was like, go away, leave me alone. 174 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: He'd like run into my room like, oh, you got 175 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: to listen to this song, listen to this part. And 176 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, whatever, go away. And now I 177 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 2: wish I would. 178 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Have been That's like me in sports with my daughter, 179 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: like something like I'll be like, oh, yeah, come here, 180 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: you got to see this. This is something really cool. 181 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: No interest, no, just just a total dismissal job of 182 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: a child. 183 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 2: I think, I. 184 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: Guess, I don't know. At some point you moved to Florida, 185 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Central Florida specifically, this is I don't know if you 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: know this. This is very different from New York and 187 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Long Island. What was the reason for that move? Was 188 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: that just he was on the road, or. 189 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: It's so my parents. So my mom was best friends 190 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: with Stevie and when dad and Billie were on Hiatus Tory, 191 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: my dad played on Stevie's solo tour. That's how he 192 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: met my mom. My mom was a very hippy California girl, 193 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: like loved the sun and palm trees, it all this, 194 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: and my dad is a very East Coast Italian New Yorker, 195 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: so they got together. Everything happened very quickly, and she 196 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: moved to New York. And I think the promise was 197 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: you will be around palm trees again. One day I promised. 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: They were on tour, we were in Florida, they decided 199 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: to look at houses. My mom loved this little town 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: called Winter Park, so we ended up moving there. And 201 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: I can hate Florida. It was I was not It 202 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: was not the direction I would have gone right, and 203 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: none of my family lives there anymore. I really do 204 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: think it was part of the downfall of us to 205 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: beatos moving to Florida. My dad went back to Brooklyn. 206 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: My mom now lives in Michigan. So but yeah, Florida. 207 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: So was that tough for you as a How old 208 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: were you when you moved? 209 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 2: I was eleven, Okay, yeah, so it was sad. It 210 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: was sad, saying God by all my friends. I was 211 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 2: excited about the high school. I knew we would all 212 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: go to together one day in King's Park, New York. 213 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: And you know, it's always hard making new friends. And 214 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: I found Florida to be very weird, even at that age. 215 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: I noticed that even in my high school, like my school, 216 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: we had like four thousand kids in our school. It 217 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: was huge. Wow, and the segregation was insane. I was like, 218 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: and I was so taken it back by so much 219 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: about Florida that wasn't in New York. I was like, 220 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, it was just it was a very 221 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 2: alarming place. 222 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: I think you played the violin. Now, what I read 223 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: was violin prodigy. That's not true, that's not true. 224 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean I started playing when I was six, and 225 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: six is young. Six is young. And I did play 226 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: all throughout high school, and I traveled over to Europe 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: and I played for Chrissy Brinkley's wedding when I was 228 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: like twelve, and so I think that's why the word 229 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: prodigy gets lost, and I. 230 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Didn't do a lot prodigy though, that's prodigy. Yeah, that's prodigy, right, 231 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: I mean I know this was there were friends, but but. 232 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Still yeah, yeah, no, I mean it was, it was. 233 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: I was. 234 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: It was a huge part of my life. It still is, 235 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: but it was even bigger. 236 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Part of my life than you still play. 237 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: I do still play. I took a little bit of 238 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: a break the last couple of years because I fractured 239 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: my finger, and then it was really hard to get 240 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: back into it because I noticed, like as a classical musician, 241 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: improv and all the things were allowed to do as 242 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: actors you can't do as a classical musice. So that 243 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: was actually the hardest switchover for me. When I started acting, 244 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: people were like, just go with it, and I'm like, no, no, 245 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: give me the words, let me act it. They're like, no, no, 246 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: just go with your and I'm like, wait a second. 247 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I'm so used to being told exactly what I have 248 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: to play. So when I broke factured my finger and 249 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: then took some time off, it was like, wait, I'm 250 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: gonna be terrible. I can't play violin and not be 251 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: good at it because I'm so classically trained. It's like 252 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: you have to Everything has to be perfect. So I 253 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: put off playing for about two and a half years, 254 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: but I just started again, which has been fun. 255 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: This is fascinating to me. So as a classical musician, 256 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: does that mean that there's no personal interpretation? 257 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: Well, I obviously think everybody has their styles and their 258 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: way of doing things, and that's why the greats happened. 259 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: But when it comes to the music, you know, Mozart 260 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: and bait, there's no room for interpretation. It's not like 261 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: you'd be like, well, he put this as a half note, 262 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: but I'm bake it a bordant note. It's like, no, 263 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: you can't. You can't do that. And every note has 264 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: to be pitch per Everything has to be so perfect. 265 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: There's no improv unless you're playing jazz or fiddle or 266 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: something like that. But that's for music. 267 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: No, Yeah, So what does distinguish. 268 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: That's a really good question. I've actually never thought of that. 269 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: I think style, you know, charisma, the way people and 270 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: also just being so much better than everyone else. It's 271 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: a really hard instrument to get really really great at 272 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 273 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: So there's hitting the notes, but then there's a way 274 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: to hit the notes pure or well. 275 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: It's funny. It's like even some string musicians, some have 276 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: better tone than others. And I don't even know how 277 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: to explain that. It's almost like singing. It's like how 278 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: somebody could be hitting the same pitch, but somebody's tone 279 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: is just better. Right, It's like, I don't know if 280 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: that's finesse, if that's just like more of a natural 281 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: thing that you have it than someone else. I'm not 282 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: really sure. But that's kind of where I stop, not 283 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: stop playing, but decided it wasn't going to be a 284 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: because of profession for me, because I realized I wasn't 285 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: ever gonna be good enough to be the soloist, and 286 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: they didn't want to be in an orchestra forever. 287 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Right. That's fascinating to me. I've never thought I mean, 288 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: you said, you've never thought of it. I've never thought 289 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: about that. The ability. Yeah. Yeah, when you're acting to 290 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: say like, oh, go no, go with what you're feeling 291 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: right now, go, Yeah, you can play around with this 292 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, and you're saying like, no, no, no, 293 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: tell me what the notes are. I'll hit the notes right, 294 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: I'll hit the notes in the tambra, in the in 295 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: the pace that you want me to. 296 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: That's fascinating piano, I'm actually thinking, because at least with violin, 297 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: it's like you have to hit all those notes. Piano, 298 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: it's all there. So what makes a great pianist versus 299 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: you know, if they can play the same music and 300 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: they have to say, well, you're not even pitch at 301 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: that point, because the pianos as long as you're hitting 302 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: the keys or pitch perfect. So what makes a great pianist? Huh? 303 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: I really think about this today. 304 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to dive into this well 305 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: because I'm also thinking about singers too, right, which in 306 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: a way, I mean, once you get into opera, then 307 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: there is performance, there's presence. But you know what makes 308 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: the great singers of classical music? What makes them great? 309 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: Emotion? 310 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: The emotion that comes through the voice. 311 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, being able to pull So maybe it's 312 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 2: the same with as well. Yeah, it's being able to 313 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 2: convey that emotion, pulling somebody in because. 314 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: You feel it. I mean, I mean great classical music 315 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: you feel yeah, and it is it the composer that 316 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: makes you feel or is it the artist that's that 317 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: has the instruments that makes you feel. I didn't think 318 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: we were going to be talking about this, by the way, 319 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: but I know, but I think this is very interesting 320 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: to me. 321 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: No, it is, for sure. I think it has to 322 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: be a combination. Like obviously the it's like when you 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 2: get a really great script, you're like, oh, the words 324 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: speak for themselves, but you still have to put in 325 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: that emotion and still so I think it's it's got 326 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: to be a combination. 327 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 3: That's fascinating. 328 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: So you had decided that that was not going to 329 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: be your profession, though you still play it. You started 330 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: modeling at age fifteen, and I have read that you 331 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: have said that that was in order to get eventually 332 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: into film and television. So even at fifteen, you saw 333 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: this path, this was the path you wanted, and this 334 00:18:58,760 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: was the path you decided to take. 335 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: No. No, So I I went into modeling and not 336 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: really knowing what I was doing. I got an agent, 337 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: and I was very shy, and I didn't really love it. 338 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: I found it to be very boring, and not to 339 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: say that people don't have fun with it, but I 340 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: personally was like, it's a lot of waiting around just 341 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: to go take pictures. Like, I didn't really love it. 342 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: And a photographer had said to my mom, you know 343 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: she's very shy in front of the camera. You should 344 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: put her in an acting class to kind of open 345 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: her up. And so I went into an acting class, 346 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, this is what I want 347 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: to do, not that, And so I kind of used 348 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: modeling while I was still in high school, like commercials 349 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: and commercial modeling to save up the money to move 350 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: to La got it. 351 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: What was it about the acting class that attracted you 352 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: that made you say that this is what I want 353 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: to do. 354 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 2: I honestly just found it to be so fun. I 355 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: am a very I could be very emotional and dramatic, 356 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: and I was like, wait, I can do this just 357 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: because I am having fun doing this, that's cool. It's 358 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: not because I'm just like a teen in my bedroom 359 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: being all emo. This is so fun. 360 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Were you taking like like did you do classical stuff? 361 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Were you doing acting for film and television or was 362 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: it more theater. I know you did some theater in Orlando. 363 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: I did some theater in Orlando. So I took a 364 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: class outside of my school. I never did it in school, 365 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: but this class was a scene study class. So that's 366 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 2: kind of where I started, and I loved it, although 367 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: admittedly I hated going to class. I still hate going 368 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 2: to class. Like if I knew I was going to 369 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 2: a class tonight at six, I would be thinking of 370 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: excuses from now until that of why I can't show up. 371 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: I just I hate showing up, But once I'm there, 372 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: I love it. But I hated showing up, but it's 373 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: a scene study class. And then back and Nickelodeon was 374 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: actually still in Orlando. I don't think it had fully 375 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: moved to LA yet, so there was like little extra 376 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 2: work I did, and like I did a guest star 377 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: on a CW well was WB a show that came 378 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: into Jacksonville, and then like commercials for Bush Gardens and 379 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: things like that, and I was like, I'm ready to 380 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: move to LA and I was like, got there and 381 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're not. 382 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: What Why did you Why did you think? No, you're not? 383 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: Once you got there, I. 384 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: Went into auditions and I was just so I hate 385 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: using this term because I thought this term, I was like, 386 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: what does that even mean? It was so green. I 387 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: didn't know what I was doing. I thought, I was like, oh, 388 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: but haven't you seen my reel of riding the rollercoaster 389 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: nine times? It's like, no, that doesn't cut it out here. 390 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: I just I was so nervous. I was so green. 391 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: I didn't yet know how to really like dig totally 392 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: deep into my work. Like it was very superficial. When 393 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: I moved out, and luckily I met this acting coach 394 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 2: in LA that totally changed everything for me. He used 395 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: to train under Larry Moss, and so I did like 396 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: a Larry Moss intentive intensive as well and read his 397 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 2: book and that was like something clicked for me there. 398 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, like this way of 399 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: breaking down a script and all that stuff really made 400 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: sense to me and I it really changed my work, 401 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: thank god. 402 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: From the time you moved to LA though, you wanted 403 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: to work in film and television. 404 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I actually I went to a professional children's school. 405 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: It was not really but in Orlando, and I graduated 406 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: six months early. I got my manager and then I'm like, 407 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: the month I moved turned eighteen, I moved to LA. 408 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: So you were on a path even in Orlando. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: what age did you decided. I mean, you start modeling 410 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: at fifteen, you take this class, So was it by 411 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen you're like, oh, this is this is what 412 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I want to do. 413 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 414 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. You got on a number of shows pretty quickly. 415 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: Safe Harbor, No One Knows Best, I don't know that one, 416 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: Drake and Josh Dawson's Creek, to name a few. What 417 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: were those early experiences like for you just being on 418 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: a set for the first times. 419 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: So the Safe Harbor, No Knows Best actually were the 420 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: two I did in high school before moving to LA. 421 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: The Safe Harbor filmed in Jacksonville, and then No One 422 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 2: Knows Best was in Orlando at Nickelodeon, and I remember 423 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 2: that being very fun. I was so nervous. I had 424 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: one line on Safe Harbor and I was so nervous. 425 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: But I remember thinking like, oh, this was so fun 426 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: that when I left, I was like, I want more. 427 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: I remember, this is going to say probably another pretentious remark, 428 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: but and ridiculous, when I booked Dawson's Creek. I I 429 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: think I'd been in LA less than a year, and 430 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: I remember sitting on the balcony and being like I 431 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: made it. I was like, oh my god, I can 432 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: call all my friends at home and tell them I 433 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: have made it. And I have like two lines. And 434 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: I thought because it was such a big show, I 435 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: was like, that's it, like and no, that's not it, 436 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: and that's not how it works. But it was weird. 437 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: I remember I had to show up so early. They 438 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: didn't turn the heat on in my trailer, you know, 439 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: because I'm like barely a character, so they don't care 440 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: about me. I was freezing my ass off. I was like, 441 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: oh my god, this is the life I wanted. What 442 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: is this? So this is scary? 443 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: But was this? Was this back in North Carolina? 444 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I had to fly, so you flew. 445 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean this is this becomes a real job when 446 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: you get when you get on a plane and you 447 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: have an itinerary and someone picks you up and you 448 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: go to a hotel. Yeah yeah was that? Oh but 449 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: so this wasn't You were like, I made it, this 450 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: is it? 451 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: And what's ironic is I remember when I was in 452 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: eighth grade, was when Dawson's Creek came out. And in 453 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: the pilot episode, I think one of the characters, I 454 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 2: think Katie Holmes actually suggests giving a blowjob, and my 455 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: mom walked in and she was like, you're not watching this. 456 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: So I found it so ironic that that was the 457 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: first job I got. I was like, aha, mom, Dawson's Creek. 458 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: Oh my, I mean it was a huge show at 459 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: that time. Yeah, and everyone was like exploding off of it. 460 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: What were they nice to you? 461 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know. I did this episode where I was 462 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: one of the college kids in the audience asking do 463 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: you remember Loveline with Doctor Drew and were in the 464 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: episode answering questions for college and one of the episodes 465 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: I really had to ask questions was is it okaytie? 466 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: He's a vibrator. So not only was I like haha, 467 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: mom my mom on Dawson's Creek, but I'm like, now 468 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm making the comments you didn't want me to hear. Oh. 469 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: It was like a double sticking to the man. But 470 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: it was nerve wracking. Joshua Jackson, one of the stars 471 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: of Dawson's Creek, was actually directing that episode, so it 472 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: was a little late later in the seasons, but he 473 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: was only when I met and I met Katie Holmes 474 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: in the the hair and makeup trailer, and I remember 475 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: being like, but I didn't get to work with anybody else. 476 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, you eventually get cast as Karen on an 477 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: ABC family show, Beautiful People. This is your first regular job. Well, 478 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: first off, was this just an audition? You auditioned and 479 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: went through the process. So this is your first time 480 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: kind of going through that studio network process, right. 481 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: Yes, it was my first time screen testing like that. 482 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: It was so nerve wracking, and it was like I 483 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: did it from the zero to one hundred, like casting callback, 484 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 2: with casting callback with director, call back with director and producers, 485 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: and then they had already cast the woman playing my mom, 486 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 2: who was Daphnie's uniga, and so they were like, we're 487 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: going to do chemistry reads with Daphney. So I had 488 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: to do that and I did to do chemistry with 489 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 2: my sister. Then you have to do the network, then 490 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: you have to do the studio. And I think I 491 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: blacked out every time. I couldn't believe I got the job. 492 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: Wow. Was that another moment where you felt like, Okay, 493 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: now I thought I had made it before, but now 494 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: I've this is actually a job. I've got my name. 495 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: They'll turn the heat on before I get there, like 496 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: so they all have heat this is an important step. 497 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, it felt really exciting because we had 498 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 2: to relocate to Toronto, so I had to find an 499 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: apartment and you know then it was the first time, 500 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: like we had to do upfronts in New York and 501 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: they flows down and they put me up at the 502 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: Ritz Carlton in Central Park and I was like, these 503 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: pillows are like clouds. What am I sleeping on right now? 504 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: Like it was just it was yeah, everything was new 505 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: and different, and I turned twenty one during that upfront stay. 506 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 2: I remember on that day and I was like, oh, 507 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: this is so cool, Like this is awesome. 508 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that those times as well. I mean 509 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: like going to New York, having the shows announced and 510 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: the advertisers and they treat you very nice, at least 511 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: for two or three days. It's yeah, it's very fun. 512 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: You You also got an opportunity to play a villain 513 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: on One Tree Hill, Nanny Carrey. This is another huge show. 514 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder I'd have to go back and 515 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: look how many people were on Dawson's Creek and One 516 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: Tree Hill, sort of the may Your shows of that time. 517 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I know, how was it for you? Joining that cast? 518 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: That was super saying that was the time that you know, 519 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: because the show that I was a series regular on, 520 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: I knew it was on ABC Family and it was 521 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: its first scripted series, so it was like, Okay, it's 522 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 2: not going to be like the lead on a CW 523 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: show because it's a new network for scripted. So but 524 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: One Tree Hill was such a huge show and I 525 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: was actually doing a really big arc. I ended up 526 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: doing like sixteen episodes or something or I don't know, 527 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: something like that, and I was so nervous, like when 528 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: I tell people my nerves, like I think for the 529 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: first like five episodes, I was like shaking in every scene. 530 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: I couldn't get a hold of myself. Luckily you couldn't 531 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 2: see it, but I was so nervous, and I remember 532 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 2: it was it was a really pivotal moment for me 533 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: in our industry because I went on to set and 534 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: the girl that I had to play opposite against most 535 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: of the time, one of the series regular's Joy. She 536 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: was so kind to me, and she put this like 537 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: male letter opener in my trailers, like all the fan mail. 538 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 2: She was just so sweet. Everybody else that I met, 539 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: I felt like there was a lot of big egos 540 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: on that show, and I'd never really stepped into that before. 541 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: And when you're in the space, you know, we're in 542 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: this reconditioned air all day. You don't see if it's light, 543 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: if it's dark outside, and then you're with a lot 544 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: of egos like that, it can get a little depressing. 545 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 2: And I got really depressed, and I thought to myself, 546 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm in the position I've always 547 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: wanted to be in. I'm on a show that is 548 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: so big, and I got to play this crazy nanny 549 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: that got to do so many cool things. So I 550 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: was like really grateful for that. I wasn't my girlfriend 551 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: number one anymore, but I was like so depressed. And 552 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 2: I think also my childhood of growing up around people 553 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: like Billy Joel and Stevie Nicks and who I knew 554 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: to be very giving and generous people, and whether they 555 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: acted a different way around the kids, I'll never know, 556 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: but around us they were always just normal people who 557 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: were very humble. And then when I'm around people that 558 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: are on the CW and can't even make eye contact 559 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 2: with you, it's like, wait, what what are you talking 560 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: about here? So yeah, I remember going home for a 561 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: break from that show and being like, I have got 562 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: to also do something other than just acting to get 563 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: my head out of justice, because I'm not going to 564 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: fall in with these people. I can't. 565 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: Hm, that's unfortunate. Yeah, I had this opportunity. Yeah, yeah, 566 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: and that was that was filmed away too, right? Was 567 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: that in? Was that in North Carolina too? 568 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Yes? It was in the same stages as Dawson's Creek. 569 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: I ended up working there years later after Town William 570 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: What is it? 571 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, Wilmington. 572 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Yes, loved it, loved it, loved being there, loved those stages. 573 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: They weren't as vibrant as they were when you were 574 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: there because a lot of stuff had moved to Atlanta. 575 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: But that's a whole other conversation. So that's got to 576 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: be very difficult to be away from your support system 577 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: and there and being and having an experience that was 578 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: that was that was difficult. 579 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very intimidated, for sure, But I'm grateful 580 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: I had that experience because it really showed me even 581 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: more the kind of artists and actor I wanted to 582 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: be and just how none of this matters. We're doing 583 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: it because we love it and we're not saving lives. 584 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: So check your ego at the door and have fun 585 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: or don't be here, do you know what I mean. 586 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: So really kind of solidified all of that from me, 587 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: which I think was important. 588 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean it's I'm sorry that you had 589 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: to go through that experience, but I think, yeah, I 590 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: think for me, I mean, I was just thinking about myself. 591 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: I think I learned it the opposite way, because when 592 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: I started, there were people who were just so great, 593 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: like truly, like so great and so generous, and so 594 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: ego checked and you know, becoming quickly or already having 595 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: achieved like legend status. Yeah, and yeah, it I think 596 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: it taught me how I want to be as like them, 597 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: whereas it feels like you may have gotten the same 598 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: but from sort of a different place. 599 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I find that I find that with a 600 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: lot of people. The more I look at somebody's resume 601 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, whoa, look at everything they've done, the 602 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: more awesome they are to work with. Most likely, you know, 603 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: when I was doing Chicago Med with you know, Oliver 604 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 2: Platt and se Payson Merkerson, they could not be cooler, 605 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: like just the best human beings on the planet. And 606 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 2: so I'm like, yeah, you're awesome. 607 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: You said before you discover that you needed to find 608 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: something else. What was the other thing that you found? 609 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: A farm? I won Michigan. 610 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: That was later in life, Okay, No, I actually I 611 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: wanted to volunteer somewhere, and I found hospice work. And 612 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 2: I didn't even know what hospice was. It like popped 613 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: up on one of my searches, and I started doing 614 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: inpatient care and I loved it so much, and then 615 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: so much so I was talking to somebody who did 616 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: something and they were like, you know, not enough people 617 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: know about hospice volunteering. You should talk to like the 618 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: mothership hospice and see if they need like a spokesperson. 619 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, So then I started talking to 620 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: them and I started actually doing work with them and 621 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: bringing awareness this hospice while I was still doing inpatient care, 622 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 2: and I did it for almost a day decade. I 623 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: stopped during the pandemic because we couldn't do in person anymore. 624 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 2: And then now just being at the farm, I haven't 625 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: sought out another hospice. 626 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's so important and valuable and that's got 627 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: to feed you, right exactly. 628 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: That's what and that's what I need it because a 629 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: lot of I feel like what we do is so 630 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 2: like we have so much focus on ourselves and how 631 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 2: is my performance? I have to be in my emotion 632 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: to that to be able to get out of that 633 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: and focus on somebody else who's literally dying and they 634 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: just want to tell their story and all you can 635 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: do is be present for them, really help it, Like 636 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 2: helped refocus me for sure. 637 00:35:41,040 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Melissa, the Hastings, Pretty Little Liars another, I mean, 638 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: you're it's crazy. When I was looking at like your 639 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: Dawson's Creek and One Tree Hill, Pretty Little Liars, Vampire Diaries, 640 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: there's I don't even know how you define this niche. 641 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: That you have. Do you hit the teen mecca? 642 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Is it like a teen mecca? 643 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: I think? So I really did? 644 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: Should I look? I should? I should know? No, No, 645 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: gossip Girls. I don't see gossip girls. 646 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: Gossip Girls. I just did though. I was doing One 647 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: Tree Hill and then I did Pretty Little Liars and 648 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: Vampies at the same time, and so they were all 649 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: back to back, so it was it was a pretty 650 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: trippy experience all. 651 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: Those shows you were shooting simultaneously. 652 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: Pretty Little Liars. 653 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, okay, like on your off time or going 654 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: back in fourth, going. 655 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: Back and forth. And that's when I learned the value 656 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: of getting really really cool because I did a recurring 657 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: on Pretty Lot Liars the all seven seasons and I 658 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: loved that. I was like, oh my god, it's so 659 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: fun to do recurrings because you're not locked into anybody, 660 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: and if you get a really really sick one, then 661 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: you can like go do something else and you're not 662 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: locked in. I was like, Oh, this is the value 663 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 2: of maybe not being contractually obligated to just write the show. 664 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: It's really cool. 665 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: Right, was working in I don't know, fantasy, I guess. 666 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: I guess that's what you would call vampire. Is it fantasy? 667 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: Did you feel like that was different in some way 668 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: the approach to the work or is it? Is it 669 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: just the character is and that's a given circumstance of 670 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: the character. 671 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a given circumstance for sure. And I 672 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: felt like you had to just play it the way 673 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 2: you play anything else or else it's going to seem 674 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 2: ridiculous even more so than maybe. 675 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Right right, right, Well, that makes sense. It's funny we 676 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: share something in common which is all of those shows 677 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: I was not on. It's very weird. It's no, it's 678 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: very it's very weird. It's a weird thing. But oh, 679 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: we do have a little overlap. Corey, you entered eventually 680 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: the universe of Dick Wolf. Yes, I did the Chicago 681 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Monopoly that or the Stranglehold. I mean, Jimmy Hoffa was 682 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: big in Chicago, but then came Dick Wolf. Talk to 683 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: me a little bit about how you got cast, because 684 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: this is a different universe than where you had been 685 00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: playing previously, doctor Natalie Manning on Chicago Med. Now I 686 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: know you did some overlap on Fire and PD, but 687 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: you were you were cast on Chicago Met. Talk to 688 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: me about how that, how that happened. 689 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 2: I went in, I did one audition, and Dick Wolf 690 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 2: cast off tape, which I find to be wild, and 691 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: so the tape just went to the network and all 692 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: that stuff, which is kind of grueling in its own 693 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 2: way because you have so much time to overthink everything 694 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: you did and didn't do, and you're like, oh, I 695 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: wish I had one more chance, and it's just a 696 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 2: ta and you have to wait so long. But that 697 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 2: was the process, and I remember I was so excited 698 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: because kind of embarrassingly and admittedly, when I got Pretty 699 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: Little Liars, I didn't want to go in for the 700 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 2: audition because it was on ABC Family again for a 701 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 2: free form it was at that time, and I was like, hey, guys, 702 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: I really I want to get out of this team thing. 703 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: I like, I'm ready to be an adult, you know. 704 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 2: And I'm so glad I didn't because Pretty Little Liars 705 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 2: ended up being really doing so many things for me. 706 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: It was amazing. So when I hit med, I was like, 707 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm an adult, Like this is so cool, 708 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 2: Like I'm playing a doctor, I'm working opposite like really 709 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: amazing actors. And then I got to set and it 710 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: was a whole new set of worries. I was like, 711 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 2: I'm out of my league. What am I doing here? 712 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: Oh? 713 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 2: Did you They're gonna fire me? No? I yeah, I 714 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: mean I overthink everything and I have like slow anxiety 715 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 2: that's always like riding right under my chest. But so 716 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 2: I for sure I was like, oh my god, I'm 717 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: going to mess all this up. I thought I was 718 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: gonna get fired probably every day of season one, season two. 719 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: I started to settling to myself, Wait, so but. 720 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: This is what you're saying is crazy. You did one 721 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: tape to be cast straight as a serious regular, yes, for. 722 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 2: The pilot, on which I find to be crazy too. Yeah, 723 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 2: just one tape. 724 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: That's insane. So they just kept sending the same tape. 725 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: The same tape. And I did the tape with you know, 726 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: casting right, so I didn't do it at home. But yeah, wow, 727 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 2: all the people making the decisions just saw that one tape. 728 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: That's the easiest casting process of all time. I no, 729 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: I envy that. That's incredible. That's incredible. You say you 730 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: felt like you were out of your league, but I mean, look, 731 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: you're working with a lot of amazing actors, some of 732 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: which you mentioned before. But you're also you're doing now 733 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to twenty four episode seasons as opposed 734 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: to not that many on most of the other shows, 735 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: or doing as you mentioned before, like recurring arcs and 736 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: going and coming back or whatever. Was that grind difficult 737 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: for you? Was that a new muscle for you? 738 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: It was a new muscle in the sense of, especially 739 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 2: on medical procedural dramas, you can only find so many 740 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 2: ways to say we'll be back to check on you shortly. 741 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 2: Interesting and so that was like a muscle I had 742 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 2: to because I was like, you know, I do feel 743 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: like sometimes when actors are doing you know, twenty two 744 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 2: episodes on a primetime drama, there is a little bit 745 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: a bit of complacency that gets set in probably around 746 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 2: season three, four, five, six, and trying to work against 747 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 2: that and being like, no, I want this to feel 748 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 2: fresh every episode. You know, I gotta show up do 749 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: it because on procedurals, a lot of the episodes are 750 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: really guests are heavy too. 751 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 752 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, so that sometimes that's when I was like, oh, 753 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 2: it's you know, I love doing all those fun recurrings 754 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: because like the episode you do, you have so much 755 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 2: to do, and sometimes when you're this series regular, it's 756 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: it's not that way. And I was like, okay, so 757 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 2: keeping that fresh and interesting was a new muscle for sure. 758 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. I was Chicago Fire. 759 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 4: Oh fun. 760 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 2: How long did you do that? 761 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean I showed. I was one 762 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: of those guest stars you were talking about. I can't 763 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,879 Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember. I think it was one, 764 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: maybe two. Yeah, that I did. 765 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: I was. 766 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: I was a law I was a smarmy lawyer and 767 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: went and it was great and I had a great time. 768 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: Everybody was so nice, and all I remember was it 769 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 1: was hot hot in Chicago, like hot. We were filming 770 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: for it to be cold cold. And I remember this 771 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: bar that they had built that we were all we 772 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: had all we were all entering into with coats on 773 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: and jackets and scarves and out of the snow, and 774 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: it was nine million degrees in there. And I was like, God, damn, 775 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm going to survive this night. 776 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: It was like this night shoot. I was like, this 777 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: is how do these people do it? It's crazy. Not 778 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: that I hadn't done that before, but there was something 779 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: about it there that I was like, this is oppressively 780 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: hot and we're all in like wool coats and scarves 781 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: and gloves and. 782 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the weather is a key star of those shows. 783 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: Of those shows. Yeah, I mean I imagine when it 784 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: is really cold and snowing, it's got to be incredibly difficult. 785 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: Yes, because at that point you're wearing spring jackets because 786 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 2: that's those are the episodes that are going to film 787 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: the spring, and you're outside trying not to like show 788 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: the frostbite on your eyelashers you're like, oh my god, 789 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 2: him dying. 790 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: You did the show for a very long time. You 791 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: did leave at a certain point, then you came back 792 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,479 Speaker 1: once you ended for good. Were you Was it time 793 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: for you? 794 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was time for me. Also, they kind of 795 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 2: wrote my character into a hole with a bunch of 796 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 2: stuff they were doing, and I don't think they knew 797 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: how to get her out. So it was definitely a mutual, 798 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 2: mutual decision on moving forward. And I was really grateful 799 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 2: for that moment with them and having that conversation, because 800 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I would have been brave enough to 801 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: just leave on my own, even though I want to 802 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 2: do at that point, because it is such an art industry, 803 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: it's hard to find security, and shows like that give 804 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 2: you massive security. But I also was like, Okay, I 805 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 2: think it's time to get out there and do something else. 806 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: And also, you know, I was about to be forty, 807 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, I still want to have a family 808 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 2: and kids and so many things, and I just felt 809 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: like I couldn't do that if I stayed much longer. 810 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was time. It was time to go. 811 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: But when you went, when you had gone back, were 812 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: those planned in advance or they called, and you were like, Okay, 813 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: I'll come back and play for a little bit. 814 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they called, and it was just because so I 815 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 2: had one character, we had a whole romance the whole 816 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: time I was there, and his character was leaving the show, 817 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 2: and they wanted to make it like they were leaving 818 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 2: to be together finally. And I was actually very happy 819 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: to do that because I felt like we did not 820 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: get the ending that they deserved at all. So and 821 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 2: also he became like a brother to me, so I 822 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: really like the incentive to go back was basically to 823 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 2: support his leaving and to kind of have our characters 824 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: have that last moment. 825 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Horror movies. 826 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 4: Love them. 827 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: I love them, love them, love to watch them, love 828 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: to be. 829 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 4: In a love to do them, love all of it, 830 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 4: see all of it, all of it. 831 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: Why what is it? Oh, I'm fascinating. 832 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 2: I haven't been in one in a very long time, 833 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 2: and I keep saying, My that's what I want to do. 834 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm really smart. Like a really good horror movie. I 835 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 2: love being scared, like horror movies with really great jump scares. 836 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: I love although watching them alone at the farm just 837 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: hits different than anywhere else. That is a little a 838 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 2: little much for me, but I just love them. I 839 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: find them to be so fun. 840 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: So that's your that's the's what you want to do next. 841 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to do a really good horror movie 842 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: because you. 843 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: Because you're I mean, you're you're a what do you 844 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: call it, a something wrapped in an enigma? You're so 845 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: you've got I can't I can't even think of the 846 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: phrase New. 847 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 4: York, Florida. 848 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 1: Classical Violinist, One Tree Hill, Hallmark Christmas Movies. I mean 849 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 1: you literally it's a dichotomy wrapped in I'll think of 850 00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: the phrase at some point, Like, So, do you just 851 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 1: love it all? You like exploring whatever it is and 852 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: whatever opportunities you have, you just say, let's go. 853 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I always had friends that were so picky 854 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 2: and would turn things down all the time. And I'm 855 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: not saying I haven't turned things down because obviously there's 856 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: some stuff that's come through just like, oh, okay, I 857 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 2: don't know if I'll be doing that, but but I've 858 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 2: always said, like, if I feel like I could have 859 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: fun with the character and I want to do it, 860 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. I So I just like 861 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 2: kind of testing everything really, that's great. 862 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: Do you enjoy Have you enjoyed? I mean you've done 863 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,240 Speaker 1: a few Hallmark Christmas movies? You enjoy doing that? Making 864 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: people happy? 865 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 2: I do? You know? Think made my grandma so And honestly, 866 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: it was the last thing she was watching before she passed. 867 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: As she was passing, she would just watch it on 868 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 2: repeat the one I did, and I just I did 869 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: like it because I felt like to, like in between 870 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: meds sometimes over the summer, if one that would come 871 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: in that I thought was endearing would come through. And 872 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 2: the only filmed like three and a half weeks, you 873 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 2: know what I mean, it's a very short amount of time. 874 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: And the last one I did, I got to go 875 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 2: to Greece and travel and I was like, yeah, I'm like, sure, 876 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,399 Speaker 2: of course I'll go to Santorini and film for three 877 00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: and a half weeks. And why why not? 878 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 3: Why not? 879 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've done one. Mine wasn't Christmas Chris. 880 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: There is something different about the Christmas wins for sure. 881 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: In fact, mine was a procedural or something not really No, no, 882 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't really a procedural. I was a doctor, That's 883 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: why I was saying it. But yeah, no, I I 884 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: get that. And by the way, like you say, you know, 885 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 1: doing it for your grandma, I mean that's just like 886 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: people saying they do it, you know, animated stuff for 887 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: their kids, or they do children shows for their kids. 888 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: It's the same thing. It's entertainment and having the opportunity, 889 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: you know, to what you have done something wrapped in 890 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: an enigma. I don't know, it's like killing me. Yeah, 891 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: I mean having an opportunity also makes you exposed to 892 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: such an incredible diverse body of people. Yeah, I mean 893 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: the opportunities that you have had working in all of 894 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: the different genres and all of the different types on 895 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,959 Speaker 1: all of the different networks. Yeah, that's really cool. 896 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, I have to say one thing 897 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 2: I love is when I work in an environment where 898 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,240 Speaker 2: you feel valued, where everybody feels valued, and it becomes 899 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 2: and I have to say, out of everyone I've worked with, 900 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: homework really makes me feel like a part of their 901 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 2: team more than anybody else. Like every birthday I hear 902 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: from them, Miles, so I got engaged. I heard from Falmark, 903 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like, they just make 904 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,280 Speaker 2: you feel valued. And I think nowadays it's very popular 905 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 2: to get on a show even as a serious regular, 906 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 2: and they're like, listen, if it's not, you would be 907 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: someone else, So don't ask us for too much. And 908 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 2: you're like, all right, but makes you feel. 909 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: Loved, And I love that, dude, there is value in that. 910 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: Let me let me tell there is value in that. 911 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm not mentioning any names, but 912 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's companies that I've worked with for ten 913 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 1: years and I'll get a coffee cup on the way 914 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: out the door. Totally, I can't not mentioning any names, 915 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: but it's as possible that may have happened to me 916 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: in the past. Uh No, that's that's that's great. And 917 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 1: I actually have some very good friends who have worked 918 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: for Hallmark and love it as well, and that's, uh, 919 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: that's important. Look, I mean, whatever it is that we're exploring, 920 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 1: and clearly you're willing to go to a lot of 921 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: different places. If you haven't seen the right by the way, like, 922 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: that's not Hallmark, it's a spoiler alert. That's that's very cool. Well, look, 923 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: I know you have to take care of your goats 924 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 1: right now. I think that there should be some chickens 925 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: for sure. Next time we chat. I want chickens, alpacas, 926 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: that's got to be an investments. Yeah, pigs, I just 927 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: saw pigs. Yeah, they do tricks, by the way, I 928 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: just I just saw. I just was introduced to a 929 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: pig that did tricks. 930 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: They're very smart. I'm thinking a pig and a donkey 931 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 2: or next, Well, you know. 932 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: My my ex coworker, he is a zonkey. 933 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,800 Speaker 2: Really yeah, that's so cool. 934 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he has a he has a donkey and 935 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: pigs and he lives on a farm. And what does 936 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 1: he have. He has a lot of weird, weird peacocks. 937 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 1: I think they're so loud albino people. They're very loud. 938 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: They're very very that. Yes, that's see. You know, not 939 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: a lot of people know that. They're very very loud. Yeah, 940 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: I think at least some chickens. Do you eat eggs? 941 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: I do eat eggs. So my duck has started laying eggs, 942 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: but I can't. 943 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: Is that a thing? 944 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like chicken eggs, but they're bigger, and 945 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 2: apparently they make baking even fluffier. So I've heard. I can't. 946 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: We need to we need to share that sound, we 947 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,839 Speaker 1: need to clip that sound. But right there, they make 948 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: baking even fluffier. I don't. Yeah, am I sounding like 949 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 1: a rube? I don't know. I've never heard of duck 950 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: egg you. 951 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you cook with duck eggs? 952 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? And people people you know eat? 953 00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: Do you fry up duck eggs? 954 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 2: Uh? Huh? It looks just like the yolk is just bigger, 955 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's a little more orange than chicken eggs. 956 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 2: But it looks just like a chicken egg, just bigger. 957 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 1: Are you eating them? 958 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 2: No? I can't. It's like too personal or something like 959 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 2: I know her, you know what I mean. I don't know. 960 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. 961 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,320 Speaker 1: But what do you do with the eggs? 962 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 2: They just I give them to my fiance's brother, and 963 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: he loves them. 964 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh, he will eat it. 965 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 2: He eats them. Yeah, and he sent me sure, he 966 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 2: cried it up. He had it all. It looks like 967 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 2: a fried egg. 968 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 3: All right. 969 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look up that phrase that I keep screwing up, 970 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna look up duck eggs because I'm not sure. 971 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't heard quail eggs. I've heard 972 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: of that. 973 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:52,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, duck eggs. 974 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,000 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, all right, Well, good luck with the ducks. 975 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think a pig, maybe a donkey, definitely somebolpacas. 976 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why I want. I'll pacus for you. 977 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: I just do. Good luck, it's been such a pleasure. 978 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: Good Luck in whatever genre field you end up in next. 979 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that it will be but be 980 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: very interesting if you can pull yourself away from the farm. 981 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 2: I know, right, I mean, it's gotta be. Really, it's 982 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 2: gotta be a good horror movie, just for anyone out 983 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 2: there to pull me away from the farm. 984 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 1: Good. That's what we're looking for. A good horror movie 985 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 1: is all you're leaving the farm for. Is that what 986 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: they're saying. If HBO calls, you're like, nope, I just 987 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: need a horror movie. 988 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 2: Spielberg, Nope, nope, not sure. I'm not doing it. 989 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: Just horror. Just Saw twelve is what we're looking for, 990 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 1: all right, all right, I'll get my people on it. 991 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: We'll get it done. Tory, thank you so much, and 992 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: good luck. I hope truly that you find some time 993 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: from the farm to continue the important, important work that 994 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: you're doing with hospice and end of your care. And 995 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 1: I know that that gives a lot to other people, 996 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 1: but also for yourself. So God bless you and very 997 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: very nice chatting with you. 998 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 4: Thanks for coming on, he was well, Thank you, Tory. 999 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,840 Speaker 1: Thanks again for being here. Look, you are a woman 1000 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 1: of many, many talents. 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