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Speaker 1: a question about technology now. It was so fitting that
Speaker 1: today I took a lift to the studios because what
Speaker 1: I planned on talking about this morning is the gig
Speaker 1: economy and the impact that it has had on my world,
Speaker 1: your world, and the world at large. I went to
Speaker 1: this event called Curbivore yesterday. Is happened in downtown Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and it's where the uh, let's see, the commerce
Speaker 1: moves to the curb. This was all about how things
Speaker 1: are now delivered, you know, the ride share economy, the
Speaker 1: door dash economy, all of these things that have sort
Speaker 1: of changed our world. That yes, there's always been buses,
Speaker 1: there's always been taxis, there's always been pizza delivery. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you can get anything you want delivered
Speaker 1: to your home or a ride in any city anywhere
Speaker 1: in the world is really profoundly changing. It all happens
Speaker 1: from our smartphones. So this Curbivore event is really just
Speaker 1: kind of eye opening the fact that there's entire industries
Speaker 1: built now around this gig economy. And I talked to
Speaker 1: this DoorDash driver, and not just DoorDash, but he kind
Speaker 1: of has a YouTube channel, Pedro Santiago, and the guy
Speaker 1: came in, I think he said from Saint Louis. He
Speaker 1: was there for the conference, such a cool guy, and
Speaker 1: something he said just really stuck with me. And I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, what do you like about this? What do
Speaker 1: you find fun about the gig economy and you know,
Speaker 1: looked him up on Instagram. He's got a wife and
Speaker 1: a kid, and he loves doing this stuff. He loves
Speaker 1: delivering for DoorDash, loves driving. And he said, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's just the freedom and flexibility of it. And that
Speaker 1: really stuck with me because many people might think of
Speaker 1: the gig economy as something that people do in between things. Right,
Speaker 1: you're out of work, or you're looking for a job,
Speaker 1: or you're trying to get started in your career. But
Speaker 1: so many people see it on the flip side that hey,
Speaker 1: hold on, why should I work for a big company
Speaker 1: have to answer to a whole bunch of people. I've
Speaker 1: got a car, or Hey, I'm going to get a
Speaker 1: car and I'm going to start my own thing. And
Speaker 1: this is going to be maybe not a means to
Speaker 1: an end, but an end's to a mean, like I
Speaker 1: will do what I want to do in my life.
Speaker 1: And what he said, and I kind of joked to him,
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, who did you have to get approval
Speaker 1: to come out here to la for he goes, no one.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to submit PTO, I didn't have to
Speaker 1: ask for the time off. I didn't have to do anything.
Speaker 1: He goes, I just decided I wanted to come and
Speaker 1: I did so. He said he worked more hours last week.
Speaker 1: He worked fifty nine hours in a week. And he
Speaker 1: made a bunch of money off of these various apps
Speaker 1: that he works for. I think he said, DoorDash was
Speaker 1: his big one. And this week he spends the week
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. And I said, that is amazing, just
Speaker 1: so incredible that now we have the opportunity to do
Speaker 1: this stuff. When I was younger, and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: in high school, and you know, working my way up
Speaker 1: in the world, you know, you'd have to get a
Speaker 1: part time job somewhere. And for me, I worked at
Speaker 1: you know, office depot, which was fitting.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was great.
Speaker 1: I worked at CPK, which was great. I was a
Speaker 1: waiter and I delivered newspapers. But the reality was I
Speaker 1: was beholden to these people. They they made my schedule.
Speaker 1: They said when you worked, when you didn't work, how
Speaker 1: much I worked, how much I made. I remember negotiating
Speaker 1: a fifty cent raise, and I thought that was a
Speaker 1: big deal. But with these gig jobs, you turn on
Speaker 1: your phone, you.
Speaker 2: Fire it up.
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, you're working, So some of the
Speaker 1: things I saw at this Curb of War were pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Motional this is a company that is doing semi autonomous
Speaker 1: food deliveries and so they've got these Motional cars that
Speaker 1: are driving around in Santa Monica and they're also partnering
Speaker 1: with Lyft in Vegas to do, you know, semi autonomous
Speaker 1: taxi rides. But I was asking the guy about the
Speaker 1: food deliveries in Santa Monica. I said, do people like it?
Speaker 1: He goes, well, it's kind of mixed. Some people get
Speaker 1: their car and they're used to someone driving up to
Speaker 1: their you know, or walking up to their front door
Speaker 1: with their food, and all of a sudden, this car
Speaker 1: pulls up to their house and it says, hey, can
Speaker 1: you come out here and open up the back door
Speaker 1: and pull your food out? And that's how it works
Speaker 1: because the car is self driving. Now there is a
Speaker 1: driver behind the wheel just for kind of monitoring of things.
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening there. Stellar Pizza this is a
Speaker 1: pizza company started by a guy from SpaceX, former SpaceX engineer,
Speaker 1: and he's doing robotic pizza. So he drives this van
Speaker 1: around and parks it somewhere like eventually it might drive
Speaker 1: around and make pizzas while it's driving, but really they
Speaker 1: park it outside a college campus or an event, and
Speaker 1: inside the back of this truck is robots making pizzas,
Speaker 1: and so they had it working yesterday, just spits out
Speaker 1: of pizza every you know, a couple of minutes. They
Speaker 1: cut up the pizza and put it in a box
Speaker 1: and sell it right outside the back of the truck.
Speaker 1: Or you can order it from your phone and just
Speaker 1: have a fresh, hot pizza. And the pizza is always
Speaker 1: hot because it's being made on site. And he said,
Speaker 1: you know, college kids really like to eat pizza anytime
Speaker 1: of the day. And he's selling these things for about
Speaker 1: seven eight bucks, which is significantly cheaper than some of
Speaker 1: the fresh made pizzas that you'd get other places, especially
Speaker 1: delivered Sprinkles. Sprinkles Cupcakes was on hand. Candice Nelson was there.
Speaker 1: She is the woman that started Sprinkles, and she was
Speaker 1: signing her book and she was talking about and I
Speaker 1: asked her, I said, hey, can I interview you for
Speaker 1: KTLA and talk about Sprinkles and how technology has had
Speaker 1: an impact. She's had Technology has been everything she goes.
Speaker 1: My whole business. She goes when the pandemic started and
Speaker 1: we started delivering cupcakes, or what about the cupcake ATM
Speaker 1: that lets you get a cupcake that's fresh in cities
Speaker 1: across the world.
Speaker 2: So all of.
Speaker 1: These things, I mean, she turned the idea of a
Speaker 1: cupcake into a multi million dollar business. How many people
Speaker 1: have baked cupcakes in their house and never thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: this could be a multi million dollar business, unless you're
Speaker 1: Betty Crocker. But no, she said, she saw what the
Speaker 1: potential was for this baked good that people have just
Speaker 1: been making for years, and she said, I think we
Speaker 1: could do better, and she made an entire business. Mopeads
Speaker 1: were big the automat Now I am a little bit
Speaker 1: too young to remember the original automats in New York City,
Speaker 1: and I guess around the world, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of talk about these things. These are
Speaker 1: the automated kind of windows that they would put food
Speaker 1: in and you would put like a nickel in and
Speaker 1: you'd see like a chicken pop pie in the window,
Speaker 1: and you would just open up the door and pull
Speaker 1: out your food. And I guess these were popular in
Speaker 1: like the thirties, a little bit before my time. But
Speaker 1: now They've got this company called Automato, and this is
Speaker 1: a temperature controlled vending machine on wheels. So the idea
Speaker 1: is that you have a whole bunch of stuff in
Speaker 1: these automated vending machine windows and you can go out
Speaker 1: there and pull up to the beach or pull up
Speaker 1: to an event parking lot whatever. People could see this
Speaker 1: if they want, open up the window and pull out
Speaker 1: what they want. And the other thing is this whole
Speaker 1: kind of truck is powered by the sun, so it's
Speaker 1: all electric, which is really neat. You don't have gas,
Speaker 1: you don't have you know, fumes come out of this truck.
Speaker 1: So Automato was partnering yesterday with Liquid Death. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've seen this brand of water, but it
Speaker 1: looks really cool and it's just it looks like it'd
Speaker 1: be an alcoholic beverage, but it's not. And so they
Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of Liquid Death flavors, which by
Speaker 1: the way, is very good. Inside these windows. You order
Speaker 1: one from your phone, you scan the QR code and
Speaker 1: then next thing you know, one of these little windows
Speaker 1: opens up and you can purchase the Liquid Death. Now,
Speaker 1: yesterday they were given out for free, which is kind
Speaker 1: of cool. Another one conjure. This was called robomart in
Speaker 1: the past, and this is a van that delivers snacks
Speaker 1: and it pulls up. You order the van to your house,
Speaker 1: kind of like an ice cream truck on demand, and
Speaker 1: the truck pulls up to your house. There's you know,
Speaker 1: a driver in the truck, but you know they stay
Speaker 1: in the seat, and the window and the door kind
Speaker 1: of opens up to a whole little seven to eleven
Speaker 1: selection of snacks. You pull out what you want. The
Speaker 1: van uses automation to figure out what you pulled out,
Speaker 1: and it charges your credit card. So what they did
Speaker 1: and they announced is that they partnered with Mars and
Speaker 1: so now this is an ice cream truck that's on demand,
Speaker 1: so they drive around, you order it. You're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to order this in Hollywood. The ice cream truck
Speaker 1: comes to your neighborhood, comes to your house, your address
Speaker 1: on demand. The door opens up, you pull out the
Speaker 1: ice cream that you want, and it drives away and
Speaker 1: it charges your card. And the best part is it's
Speaker 1: not like a door dash delivery where this ice cream
Speaker 1: may be semi melted. It's in the freezer in the
Speaker 1: truck you're pulling it out of the freezer yourself, And
Speaker 1: I said, what if someone pulls a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff out of there? He goes, well, that's how we
Speaker 1: It's all automated. We just charged their card for however
Speaker 1: much they pull out. So again, the gig economy really
Speaker 1: just changing the way that we think about the world
Speaker 1: and technology of course, this layer that makes it all possible.
Speaker 1: The idea of the smartphone, the idea of GPS, the
Speaker 1: idea of all these things coming together because of technology
Speaker 1: is just incredible to me. All Right, I've got a
Speaker 1: great show for you today. Matt Swider of The Shortcut
Speaker 1: is going to check in from Barcelona, Spain. That's where
Speaker 1: Mobile World Congress happened this week, so he's going to
Speaker 1: tell us all about the cool stuff he saw there.
Speaker 1: Tatanya Jordan of Bark is going to join me to
Speaker 1: talk about TikTok's new sixty minute time limit for teenagers,
Speaker 1: and later, Wirecutter security expert is going to join me
Speaker 1: to talk about the latest in the Last Past debacle.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been following this story, but
Speaker 1: if you're using last Past, you might be thinking about
Speaker 1: maybe switching to a different password.
Speaker 2: Manager.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to them about what programs our
Speaker 1: best to switch to. Plus your calls at triple eight
Speaker 1: Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four
Speaker 1: to two four one zero one. My name is Rich Dmiro.
Speaker 1: You are listening to Rich on Tech. We'll talk tech
Speaker 1: and take some of your calls coming up. Welcome, come
Speaker 1: back to rich on Tech. Phone lines are open at
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Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram at rich on Tech. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Joyce. Joyce, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 3: Hi Rich, thank you for taking my call. My question
Speaker 3: involves AT and T. Been customer for years and years
Speaker 3: have internet radio, I mean TV and phone service through them,
Speaker 3: and the past several months I've received letters, one in
Speaker 3: January saying you have so many days otherwise your service
Speaker 3: could be disconnected. I have a current one now that
Speaker 3: says we're retiring the network equipment that provides Internet, U vers,
Speaker 3: TV and phone and to your location and need to
Speaker 3: move your services to our new fiber optic technology. Now
Speaker 3: it says, you know we're going to give you better service,
Speaker 3: faster Internet, et cetera. Now, my husband's eighty five, doesn't
Speaker 3: use anything but TV in phone. I'm his caregiver and
Speaker 3: I watch TV mostly. But what I'm wondering they said
Speaker 3: that to do the fiber they might have to drill
Speaker 3: through our old stucco house. And I'm just wondering. I've
Speaker 3: tried to do some research on this, and it appears
Speaker 3: that if you don't go with the new fiber, then
Speaker 3: you're on your own if you have any issues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything goes through that same line at this point.
Speaker 1: So like what you have, U Verse, which AT and
Speaker 1: T kind of stop selling a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and so they've been servicing people that have it, but
Speaker 1: they obviously are not using that anymore. That's no longer
Speaker 1: the branding. That's no longer the technology now they've moved
Speaker 1: and they, like they said, in your neighborhood, it's all
Speaker 1: fiber now.
Speaker 2: So what do you need? You said, you just need TV.
Speaker 3: And fire, TV and phone Internet. I just play with.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to do emails and things like that. Okay,
Speaker 3: so it's just a fun thing, you might say.
Speaker 1: And what are you worried about with them coming to
Speaker 1: change it over?
Speaker 3: Well that they said they're going to string wire over
Speaker 3: the driveway and then attach it to the house and
Speaker 3: then drill through the stucco into the room where my
Speaker 3: husband has the router. I guess, right, right, And so
Speaker 3: I guess that's what I'm concerned about.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: I've had this done at my house because I actually
Speaker 1: got this installed at my place, and I was all
Speaker 1: for it. When the guy said, in fact, as a
Speaker 1: tech person, the fact that they're running a fresh, new
Speaker 1: line to your house, I am, that's exciting to me
Speaker 1: because I know that that's going to be really good service.
Speaker 1: It's going to be great internet. It's new, it's fresh,
Speaker 1: the line that they're stringing. It may sound scary, and
Speaker 1: drilling through the house may sound scary, but the people
Speaker 1: that are coming out to do this, they do this
Speaker 1: every single day and they've seen it all. They have
Speaker 1: the equipment to do it. Yeah, they may leave some
Speaker 1: dust where they had the hole in the wall, and that,
Speaker 1: you know, I probably that's going to be something you're
Speaker 1: probably going to vacuum.
Speaker 2: Up when it's done.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not a problem. I was concerned if it's
Speaker 3: really necessary to do that, you know, to increase to
Speaker 3: higher speed. I appreciate your response. It's given me such
Speaker 3: relief because I've been on the fence about this and
Speaker 3: I think, are they just trying to cram this into
Speaker 3: you know, you have to have a higher rate and
Speaker 3: higher do this?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, Well okay, So with that said, what is the
Speaker 1: rate that you're paying right now?
Speaker 3: Total is two hundred and fifty six dollars and ninety
Speaker 3: one cents, okay, and.
Speaker 1: That includes your your TV and your phone.
Speaker 3: Line right and your Internet is one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: seven dollars and fifty two cent Internet. There's like a
Speaker 3: little promotion for thirty five and then phone is fifty
Speaker 3: four to thirty nine.
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, that's a lot. Wow.
Speaker 3: That's a phone that we thought was a landline and
Speaker 3: they switched it to digital and they brought in all
Speaker 3: the other yep.
Speaker 2: That's pretty standard.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if the price is I hope
Speaker 1: it goes down with this new service they AT and
Speaker 1: T has actually said they they're no longer playing like
Speaker 1: sort of pricing games with their with their accounts. They
Speaker 1: may give you a promotion because you're a new technically
Speaker 1: you're an old customer, but you're signing up fresh with
Speaker 1: this new fiber service, so they may give you a
Speaker 1: promotion that lasts a year on that, but after that
Speaker 1: they're pretty much standardizing their rates for their service. But
Speaker 1: I hope and I would think that it'd be cheaper
Speaker 1: than two fifty six a month. I know you can
Speaker 1: do better if you switch to a streaming TV service,
Speaker 1: and if you are switching your internet, you could just
Speaker 1: go with an internet service and something.
Speaker 2: Like a YouTube TV. But I don't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like you guys are ready for that
Speaker 1: big shift in your life. So what I would do
Speaker 1: personally is let AT and T come to my house,
Speaker 1: let them install everything, make sure everything's set up properly.
Speaker 1: I would just let them get everything the way you
Speaker 1: have it now, except with the new fiber, and see
Speaker 1: what they say, and also get a quote from them
Speaker 1: of how much that's going to cost you. So all
Speaker 1: the installation and stuff should be free. But I would
Speaker 1: be curious about that monthly price and really push them
Speaker 1: on that to do something that's a little bit better
Speaker 1: than that two fifty six a month. But personally I'm
Speaker 1: doing it. I think that sounds scary with the line
Speaker 1: being strong and all this stuff, but believe me. These
Speaker 1: people know what they're doing. They're going to do a
Speaker 1: great job. And you know, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a switchover for a week or two
Speaker 1: while you get this thing installed and you get used
Speaker 1: to it and all that stuff. But the reality is
Speaker 1: it's going to be just fine and you're going to
Speaker 1: kind of forget that it's all new. So good question, Joyce.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for calling and being the first caller today.
Speaker 1: Do appreciate that, enjoy the new service?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Coming up on the show, we are going to talk
Speaker 1: about this iPhone story. So Wall Street Journal did this
Speaker 1: big story about your pastcode and the iPhone and it
Speaker 1: just went wild. People, are you know realizing that if
Speaker 1: someone sees you enter the passcode on your iPhone, it
Speaker 1: could be a major problem. They could really take over
Speaker 1: your entire life. I wasn't even aware of this. I
Speaker 1: took for granted the fact that, you know, the past
Speaker 1: coode is like this low tech way to break into
Speaker 1: your phone, and clearly thieves have their eye on it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna talk to you about that. Speaking of that,
Speaker 1: you know, I should just tell you this right now, Verizon,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you because we're talking about telephone companies.
Speaker 1: Verizon's adding a new two dollars fee to some of
Speaker 1: its older unlimited plans. C NEET confirmed. It's called a
Speaker 1: rate plan adjustment. So if you're on one of these
Speaker 1: old Verizon plans, and it's not even that old of
Speaker 1: a plan, A Beyond Unlimited, a Go Unlimited, or an
Speaker 1: older Verizon Unlimited plan, you're gonna be paying two dollars
Speaker 1: extra month. You know why, no reason. Verizon just wants
Speaker 1: to charge you that that's stake do this. They say,
Speaker 1: it's to account for the added cost of maintaining these
Speaker 1: legacy plans. You're going to see an email or a
Speaker 1: letter to your house telling you about this new two
Speaker 1: dollars fee, which starts in April. Yeah, so start getting
Speaker 1: angry right now. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Phone
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Speaker 1: one more of your calls after this. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. My name is rich Deburo, hanging out
Speaker 1: here with you talking technology, and now we are going
Speaker 1: to go to Barcelona, Spain, where Mobile World Congress happened
Speaker 1: this week. Matt Swider is founder and editor chief of
Speaker 1: The Shortcut, which is a newsletter that covers consumer tech
Speaker 1: news and deals. He's known for helping people track down
Speaker 1: all kinds of gadgets, including the PS five, and he
Speaker 1: used to work for tech Radar as well.
Speaker 2: Matt, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, Rich it's really great to
Speaker 5: you know, tune in and actually be a part of
Speaker 5: the show.
Speaker 1: How so was Mobile World Congress. We'll explain what it
Speaker 1: is first off.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it does confuse people because it sounds political, but
Speaker 5: it is anything. But it is a tech show where
Speaker 5: a lot of smartphone manufacturers gather and announce new smartphones
Speaker 5: that you'll see over the course of a couple months.
Speaker 5: There's phones, there's mobile devices, there's tablets, and there's the
Speaker 5: coolest thing I saw, which is rollable phone. So it's
Speaker 5: a step above vuldable phones. And yeah, I was really
Speaker 5: enamorateed with rollable devices from Lenovo and Motorola specifically, which
Speaker 5: I'm sure you saw.
Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting about this whole like rollable, foldable stuff
Speaker 1: is that we're seeing so many manufacturers experiment with these
Speaker 1: different form factors. And I have no doubt that I
Speaker 1: would like one of these in the future. But you know,
Speaker 1: the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room is Apple,
Speaker 1: and everyone's wondering is this is this foldable or rollable
Speaker 1: going to happen if Apple never adopts it, or do
Speaker 1: you think they will?
Speaker 5: I think they are always linked to the game purposely
Speaker 5: because they wait until the technology can be perfected. And
Speaker 5: they don't have a foldable phone yet, but you know,
Speaker 5: everybody thinks that they're working on something and they're just
Speaker 5: waiting for the glass to get stronger, the hinge to
Speaker 5: get smaller, and for them to come out with some
Speaker 5: new technology that kind of pushes things forward. And what
Speaker 5: I like about Mobile Congress it is very much an
Speaker 5: Android show and almost you know, it's a lot of
Speaker 5: Chinese manufacturers, But you know, I think iPhone users should
Speaker 5: care about what's announced because that's where you know Samsung
Speaker 5: and Apple will be if other competitors are pushing the
Speaker 5: envelope both on price and new technology. So to explain
Speaker 5: what the rollable phone does, it actually extends the screen.
Speaker 5: It has a little motor in it. It pushes the
Speaker 5: screen up so it expands at the top and just
Speaker 5: you know, it expands before your eyes. And what's clever is
Speaker 5: when it you know retracts, it actually rolls into the back,
Speaker 5: it bends into the back. And Lenovo and Motorol are
Speaker 5: usualizing that screen for you know, taking selfies on the
Speaker 5: back so you can actually see from the rear face
Speaker 5: and camera yourself or what was really is for little
Speaker 5: kids that has a little smiley animated smiley face on
Speaker 5: there to kind of get them to briefly smile for
Speaker 5: a picture. And I thought that was really cool. Do
Speaker 5: I think it's you know, going to come out and
Speaker 5: you know everybody's going to adopt it in the next year.
Speaker 5: I think we're a couple of years from this becoming mainstream,
Speaker 5: but it's definitely fun to see it in action and
Speaker 5: kind of this is going to be the precursor to
Speaker 5: what mark phones are going to become.
Speaker 1: And I love how small it is. I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at some pictures online. I love how small it is
Speaker 1: when it's not rolled out, and it's just it's because
Speaker 1: this is a thing like I you know, I've been testing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure like you have the S twenty three Ultra
Speaker 1: from Samsung, and I love, love, love the big screen size,
Speaker 1: but I just can't stand the fact that the thing
Speaker 1: does not fit in my pocket, especially with a case
Speaker 1: on it. So I think in the future we're going
Speaker 1: to have these phones that are a lot smaller, but
Speaker 1: once they figure out these screens, they'll effectively be a
Speaker 1: larger screen.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And you know, everybody wants the best best of
Speaker 5: both worlds. They want, you know, a phone that they
Speaker 5: can hold, especially walking down the street. When I'm walking
Speaker 5: in New York City and you know, something that you
Speaker 5: can grasp, it's so one bumps into. But at the
Speaker 5: same time, when you sit down the subway, when you're
Speaker 5: on an airplane, you want to carry around that tablet
Speaker 5: but not have to carry around necessarily a bag with
Speaker 5: you every time. You want to slip that into your pocket.
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, foldal phones going completely mainstream
Speaker 5: is a little ways off, but I think it's inevitable
Speaker 5: because we want the best of both worlds.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this, uh, this one plus
Speaker 1: concept phone. So one plus I mean they really try,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean they've they've really really tried to
Speaker 1: make inroads here in the US. It's it's been tough,
Speaker 1: but you know, they do have some partners. They've worked
Speaker 1: with T Mobile in the past. Tell me about what
Speaker 1: they've showed off this concept phone.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so what's interesting about this is, you know, with
Speaker 5: all the foldso phones, but there's in traditional candybar style phones,
Speaker 5: there's almost a renewed focus on design and the back
Speaker 5: of the phone. So what once Us did is they
Speaker 5: introduced something called the one plus eleven concept and it
Speaker 5: took a lot of what we like about the one
Speaker 5: plus eleven and they gave it lights on the back
Speaker 5: with these halou halo lighting and it almost looks like
Speaker 5: a gaming PC case and they have liquid cooling on
Speaker 5: the back, again like a gaming PC. And you know,
Speaker 5: so gaming pieces are over the top. They have led
Speaker 5: lights everywhere. Their high performance and that's what they're trying
Speaker 5: to mimic, and they're usually you know, that's a one
Speaker 5: plus of a company known for coming in at a
Speaker 5: low price but still having top of the line spec.
Speaker 5: So I think that is what their main asset is
Speaker 5: and it's this design, whether or not it comes out,
Speaker 5: is very over the top, like almost like you see
Speaker 5: at car shows where there's a concept car that you
Speaker 5: may or may not be able to buy one day,
Speaker 5: but it's the company pushing the envelope. Phone companies are
Speaker 5: doing the same thing, and that's what Mobile Congress is
Speaker 5: all about.
Speaker 1: It's all about capturing that attention as well. We're speaking
Speaker 1: with Matt Swider. He is editor of the Shortcut dot com.
Speaker 1: Go ahead and subscribe to his newsletter. Matt is actually
Speaker 1: living the American dream. You were an editor at a
Speaker 1: big publication and you kind of found a cool little
Speaker 1: niche of of helping people with their technology and specifically
Speaker 1: finding hard to find products like the PS five. You
Speaker 1: gained many, many, many followers enough so that you could
Speaker 1: go out on your own and start your own newsletter,
Speaker 1: and so pretty cool that you've been able to do that.
Speaker 1: And Matt is in Barcelona, Spain for Mobile World Congress.
Speaker 1: And tell me about the two hundred and forty watch charging.
Speaker 1: So I never think my phone charge is fast enough.
Speaker 1: Tell me about this, right.
Speaker 5: So if you have ten minutes, you could have a
Speaker 5: full battery with the real me phone. It has two
Speaker 5: hundred forty watt charging, which I think it's part of
Speaker 5: a greater segment at MOELL Congress where it's almost like
Speaker 5: part of the emergency tech line. That's how we kind
Speaker 5: of phrase it and kind of gave it an award
Speaker 5: for that with the Shortcut Awards, Because if you're in
Speaker 5: a pinch, and we've all been there where you just
Speaker 5: need a couple extra minutes of battery life, where a
Speaker 5: text or you're trying to call an uber, you're just
Speaker 5: trying to get home. This can get you to a
Speaker 5: full battery in under ten minutes, which is astounding, and
Speaker 5: just getting a couple seconds of you know, a charge
Speaker 5: will go a long way. So I think, once again,
Speaker 5: you may or may not buy this real needs phone,
Speaker 5: but you know it pushes all their manufacturers. That's right,
Speaker 5: all right, Well we need more than twenty five watch
Speaker 5: charging and by watch charging.
Speaker 1: So this is what I think it's all about. It's
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I hate to keep you know, harping
Speaker 1: on the Apple effect of all this stuff, and I
Speaker 1: get it. When you're outside the US, like in Spain,
Speaker 1: I bet you see more people using Android than they
Speaker 1: do iPhone, you know, except for the Americans that are
Speaker 1: there for this conference, And so when you travel around
Speaker 1: the world you realize that, like, yes, iPhone is very
Speaker 1: very popular in the US, and it's popular worldwide, but
Speaker 1: Android definitely has more of an impact in a greater
Speaker 1: way around the world. And I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of these changes and a lot of these advancements just
Speaker 1: kind of force Apple's hand. They do things, like you said,
Speaker 1: a little bit slower, a little bit later, but they've
Speaker 1: got to get their charging faster. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: the iPhone charges the slowest out of any phone I test.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we really want to see USBC from the
Speaker 5: next iPhone, the iPhone fifteen, which you know everybody thinks
Speaker 5: is going to come in September, just like the usual
Speaker 5: cadence and USB C would be really much a benefit
Speaker 5: of carrier on one less type of table when I travel,
Speaker 5: And that's gonna be nice. And like you said, it's
Speaker 5: all about the company's pushing the Apples and the Samsungs
Speaker 5: into adopting technology faster at a better price. There was
Speaker 5: a company called Techno that has a phone, a foldable
Speaker 5: tablet size foldable phone called the Techno Phantom V and
Speaker 5: it's targeting India. But it's the equivalent price for launch
Speaker 5: is nine hundred and seventy nine dollars. Now Samsung is
Speaker 5: charging you know, eighteen hundred for their foldable phone, and
Speaker 5: you know Samsung is over the has the best spec
Speaker 5: compared to the film. But you know the fact that
Speaker 5: someone is coming out with like a foldable film that
Speaker 5: looks like a flagship phone for under one thousand dollars,
Speaker 5: that's just going to push the competition to do better.
Speaker 5: And I really kind of almost appreciate that, even though
Speaker 5: you know, we may not see those phones on the
Speaker 5: streets of the US.
Speaker 2: All right, Matt, was it fun this year?
Speaker 1: I've got about a minute here to say goodbye, But
Speaker 1: did you have fun this year? And it was it
Speaker 1: different to be on your own this year than working
Speaker 1: for sort of like an editor in years past.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a bunch of fun because it felt like,
Speaker 5: you know, the whole conferences we go to are back
Speaker 5: like CES was this year in January. We have you know,
Speaker 5: Mobile Congress in late February. It was nice to kind
Speaker 5: of get back to that routine. And also, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm handling all the awards stuff. We gave out a
Speaker 5: bunch of awards, so I'm handling the design of the award,
Speaker 5: getting it in, shipping it, bring it with me in
Speaker 5: my suitcase. So that is a lot of fun to
Speaker 5: kind of be have a bunch of hats and be
Speaker 5: the death of world trade and hire a bunch of
Speaker 5: friends to make that happen.
Speaker 6: So that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: And I will say in your latest newsletter at the
Speaker 1: shortcut dot com, I was very impressed that you were
Speaker 1: able to get a picture with all of the award
Speaker 1: winners that you gave out, which is no easy feat
Speaker 1: because sometimes these companies can be tough to track down.
Speaker 1: So congrats and thanks and have fun. I assume you're
Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of the weekend in Barcelona.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'm in like a little highland off of Spain.
Speaker 5: But Rich, I always appreciate the support that you've given
Speaker 5: me over the year, so thank you for having me
Speaker 5: on and the continued support.
Speaker 2: All Right, Matt Swider, thanks so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: Check it out.
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Speaker 1: on tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name
Speaker 1: is rich Demiro. We are talking technology and taking your
Speaker 1: phone calls. You can find me on the web at
Speaker 1: richon tech dot TV. Mike is in Denver. Mike, you
Speaker 1: are on with Rich. What's up?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 5: Rich?
Speaker 7: It's so good to talk to you. This is my
Speaker 7: first time calling into your show. I used to call
Speaker 7: into Leo's show. But I just want to tell you
Speaker 7: thank you for the job you've been doing. You bring
Speaker 7: a lot to the show. You're very articulate, you're very thoughtful,
Speaker 7: you talk about things analytically, and it's just a pleasure
Speaker 7: to listen to you. So thank you.
Speaker 2: Wow, keep going. I love it well.
Speaker 7: I was actually going to ask you. I know you
Speaker 7: started out in TV. Was radio ever something you were
Speaker 7: interested in?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: Always? I loved Ray.
Speaker 1: I grew up out outside New York City with the
Speaker 1: flagship Z one hundred station, which you know, I know
Speaker 1: that that's not necessarily talk radio, but they had Morning Zoo,
Speaker 1: and I just loved, you know, these big booming voices
Speaker 1: and these people with these amazing names, right like mister
Speaker 1: Leonard and Professor Jonathan B.
Speaker 2: Bell.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just really had an impact. Elvis Duran,
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, just so amazing, and so
Speaker 1: I you know, I just loved it. And radio reaches
Speaker 1: people in a way that. You know, TV is very unique,
Speaker 1: but radio is also very very unique, and so I've
Speaker 1: had a love for both. It's always been a dream
Speaker 1: to do radio, and I took me many, many years
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do both. But here I am,
Speaker 1: and so I've got the best of both worlds.
Speaker 7: Mike, Yeah, absolutely. Well, before I get to my question,
Speaker 7: I got to tell you, you know, I'm twenty six
Speaker 7: years old and for some reason, I always connected more
Speaker 7: to talk radio growing up. You know, most kids it
Speaker 7: was television or video games. Was for some reason with me,
Speaker 7: it was always talk radio. So I had the great
Speaker 7: pleasure to call in with Leo Laporte several times in
Speaker 7: George Nori over the years. And I love red you.
Speaker 7: But so my question for you, I've been thinking about
Speaker 7: trying to learn a new language. I've been looking at,
Speaker 7: you know, like a number of different apps. Dual Lingo
Speaker 7: is one of the apps specifically I've been looking at.
Speaker 7: And I actually spoke with Kim, your producer call Screener,
Speaker 7: and she said it was a really good app. And
Speaker 7: I was wondering if you had any recommendations on apps
Speaker 7: to help teach new languages.
Speaker 2: Great question, what language are you trying to.
Speaker 7: Learn I'm trying to learn Spanish.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's that's an I mean I would say
Speaker 1: that's an. I mean it's an easy one because they
Speaker 1: all probably offer this, but I'm not I've tried learning
Speaker 1: Spanish many, many years and just for some reason, and
Speaker 1: I'm convinced some people's brains are just wired differently where
Speaker 1: and mine is one of them where I just can't
Speaker 1: figure it out. Like I took Spanish for so many
Speaker 1: years and I can't say anything in Spanish so sadly.
Speaker 1: In fact, dual Lingo is one of the apps that
Speaker 1: I tried to use to learn Spanish, and and I'm
Speaker 1: not kidding, dual Lingo started getting angry with me the
Speaker 1: notifications that this app started sending to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: is there a person behind this app? Because they were
Speaker 1: just mean. It was like, Okay, we see that you
Speaker 1: really don't care about this. We're just gonna stop sending these.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, okay. With that said, if you
Speaker 1: are trying to learn Spanish, many many apps can do this.
Speaker 1: I really have the most experience with dual Lingo, but
Speaker 1: I think there's many apps out there that can also
Speaker 1: teach you a language, and I think what it really
Speaker 1: comes down to is kind of comparing some of these
Speaker 1: apps and seeing which one works best for you. So
Speaker 1: there is an app that's called Memorize m Rise, and
Speaker 1: I'm looking to see if they offer Spanish, and sure
Speaker 1: enough they do. They offer Spanish, Mexico and Spain, so
Speaker 1: I guess you get the two different dialects. And this
Speaker 1: one is, you know, it's very similar to the way
Speaker 1: that dual Lingo works, but this one looks like it's
Speaker 1: much more video example based, so it uses video examples
Speaker 1: of language used in real life. And so each one
Speaker 1: of these little lessons incorporates videos, and it's like a like,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the demo here and it says do
Speaker 1: you have Wi Fi? And the person will say it,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of breaks down how to say that.
Speaker 1: That's a very important thing to know as you travel.
Speaker 1: So that's Memorized Memorize dot com. Then there's an app
Speaker 1: called Lingo deer l I n g O d E
Speaker 1: E R. And it's just so interesting how all these
Speaker 1: apps come up with these funny different names. This was
Speaker 1: a Google Play Editor's Choice of twenty nineteen. An available
Speaker 1: both on iOS and Android and Lingo Deer is not
Speaker 1: sure if they are going to offer the language you need,
Speaker 1: though this looks like it's Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin, and
Speaker 1: so let's see do oh they do have Spanish on here. Okay,
Speaker 1: you can learn Spanish, and this one will go through
Speaker 1: the basics alphabet, food and drink, questions, plural numbers, greetings,
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's kind of gamified, and so
Speaker 1: this will lead you along learning Spanish sort of through
Speaker 1: a game. And that one is again called Lingo Dear.
Speaker 1: Then we've got an app called Hello Talk, and Hello
Speaker 1: Talk is different. I think I actually did a segment
Speaker 1: on this with Ktla. This is an app that links
Speaker 1: you up with a native speaker. And so this is
Speaker 1: kind of cool because you are actually chatting with someone
Speaker 1: that speaks that language somewhere in the world and they've
Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty languages thirty million people to
Speaker 1: chat with. And again, I think this one is probably
Speaker 1: going to cost some money because you are almost with
Speaker 1: a you know, a native speaker that is, you know,
Speaker 1: taking time out of their day to actually chat with
Speaker 1: you and help you understand this. But that's kind of
Speaker 1: a cool way of doing it. It's again called hellotalk
Speaker 1: dot com, a little bit of a different approach than
Speaker 1: something like duolingo.
Speaker 2: And then the two other.
Speaker 1: Ones that you've probably heard of, which are very similar
Speaker 1: in scope to dual Lingo Rosetta Stone. I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember Rosetta being in the kiosk at the mall growing up.
Speaker 1: I mean, so this has been around forever. In fact,
Speaker 1: here's what it says, for nearly thirty years, learners have
Speaker 1: turned to Rosetta Stone to build their fluency. And so
Speaker 1: Rosetta Stone is more about audio. And so I've never
Speaker 1: taken these courses, but these are I believe, audio courses
Speaker 1: that can really help you learn the language. And again
Speaker 1: that's going to be a paid thing. They may have
Speaker 1: a free version, but I think that it's mostly paid
Speaker 1: at this point. And they do support at a lot
Speaker 1: of languages. And finally, I think probably the one that's
Speaker 1: going to be the most closest to duo Lingo is
Speaker 1: babbel be a bb el dot com and they do
Speaker 1: have Spanish. And again this is going to be more
Speaker 1: of a subscription based but it's got app based lessons
Speaker 1: and it's ten minutes a day. That's what they say
Speaker 1: and you know what, Mike, I think you've inspired me
Speaker 1: to really try to learn a different language. The problem
Speaker 1: is I sign up for these, I get them on
Speaker 1: my phone, and then what do I do? I surf Instagram,
Speaker 1: I surf YouTube shorts, I go on my Twitter, I
Speaker 1: go on my Facebook and anything besides learning the language.
Speaker 1: I need to put my time into myself sometimes. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn a new language along with you. Hopefully
Speaker 1: those apps helped. Good question enjoy Spanish? All right, coming up,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the low tech iPhone hack for
Speaker 1: your past coode and more of your calls. At Triple
Speaker 1: eight rich one on one. You are listening to rich
Speaker 1: DeMuro here on rich On tech Man. Where is the
Speaker 1: time going? First hour of the show already in the
Speaker 1: can Now we're into hour number two. I feel like
Speaker 1: someone has just taken my time and just like spun
Speaker 1: it fast. Like it's just like like someone advanced it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening anyway, Thanks for listening to
Speaker 1: the show. If you want to give me a call,
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Speaker 1: A couple things. First off, got a lot of feedback
Speaker 1: from last week's show, So people listen to the show.
Speaker 1: Maybe on the podcast you can search Rich on tech
Speaker 1: to find that to listen later. But people listen to that,
Speaker 1: and then they email me and they say, Hey, Rich,
Speaker 1: I have an answer, like an additional answer for a
Speaker 1: question that you got. And so I got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of those from last week, So I'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: What else, Oh, I just got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people saying, Rich, which CPK did you work at? So
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that out of all my gig economy talk,
Speaker 1: the CBK people just want to know I worked at
Speaker 1: the one in Santa Monica. And in fact, the reason
Speaker 1: why I tried to get a job at CBK is
Speaker 1: because I and this probably goes to show my character,
Speaker 1: I was like, it's the easiest job you can do.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're literally serving pizzas. What could be easier?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, little did I know the training process at CBK
Speaker 1: was so intense. It went from like three hundred people
Speaker 1: to one hundred people to like the opening crew of
Speaker 1: like fifty of us or whatever it was, And it
Speaker 1: was like eight weeks of training, and you had to
Speaker 1: know that menu inside and out. You had to try
Speaker 1: every single food, every single pizza, which I loved and
Speaker 1: I learned so much in that, not just about customer service,
Speaker 1: but opening up a restaurant. We open up a brand
Speaker 1: new location and it was I mean, I think even
Speaker 1: the founders were there. I mean, it was just such
Speaker 1: a great experience and something that really has stuck with
Speaker 1: me for not just that part of my life, but
Speaker 1: in almost so many aspects of what I expect when
Speaker 1: I go to restaurants and how I deal with waiters
Speaker 1: and service industry folks, and so anyway, it was a
Speaker 1: really really great experience. So maybe in your history you
Speaker 1: had Rich on tech Serview at CBK and Santa Monica.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe in Indianapolis, Indiana. Joe, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich. Hey Rich, I am doing great, Joe, what's
Speaker 1: up good?
Speaker 8: I had a question. I know you have two kids
Speaker 8: at home, and I think I've live them two or
Speaker 8: three radio shows ago. You said talking about your youngest
Speaker 8: eight year old hacking in your YouTube. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 8: I think you had some sort of internet filter, as
Speaker 8: I remember you saying.
Speaker 9: So what one do use?
Speaker 8: That's basically my question, what internet filters do you recommend
Speaker 8: for kids?
Speaker 2: Good question, Joe. I have a question for you, though,
Speaker 2: how old are you?
Speaker 8: I'm actually ten. You're show I love technology.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now do your parents allow you to have free
Speaker 1: reign on the web or what are you going to
Speaker 1: put these filters in on your and yourself or what
Speaker 1: are you trying to stay a step ahead of your parents?
Speaker 10: I'm pretty ahead of my parents.
Speaker 1: To be honest. Yeah, I think I think most kids are,
Speaker 1: including mine, in some ways. And I'll tell you, Joe,
Speaker 1: a couple things. So number one, I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: older than you, and so I know that a lot
Speaker 1: of these filters and things are there for your own good,
Speaker 1: because some kids can't control themselves when it comes to
Speaker 1: the amount of time they spend online. And I have
Speaker 1: two different kids. One kid is very much you know,
Speaker 1: he's fine. He goes online, he does his thing, He
Speaker 1: kind of stays within the guardrails, and everything's good. When
Speaker 1: you tell him, hey, it's time to stop playing or
Speaker 1: stop doing this, it's fine. I've got another kid who
Speaker 1: is just a little bit different in that aspect, and
Speaker 1: he likes to push me to the limits and so
Speaker 1: he likes to push the limits also about what he
Speaker 1: can do on there. So today, for instance, he found
Speaker 1: YouTube back on our main TV because my wife and
Speaker 1: I were watching some travel videos. We're researching trips, and
Speaker 1: you know, we had to put YouTube back on there.
Speaker 1: And of course he finds it in about two seconds,
Speaker 1: even though I put it all the way down at
Speaker 1: the bottom of the list of apps on our Apple DV.
Speaker 1: He scrolls down and finds it and he starts watching.
Speaker 1: And then he was watching YouTube last night and he said,
Speaker 1: he said, hey, I noticed that YouTube now has a
Speaker 1: kids version on the app on smart TVs, and so
Speaker 1: I said, that's great because now you can log in
Speaker 1: with your account and watch YouTube. He said, well, Dad,
Speaker 1: I don't want to because they don't do shorts on
Speaker 1: YouTube kids. And I said, yes, there's a reason why
Speaker 1: they don't do YouTube shorts on kids because YouTube shorts
Speaker 1: shouldn't be watched by kids. There's so much stuff on
Speaker 1: there that's just not very appropriate, and so I think
Speaker 1: it's tougher for them to kind of filter through those
Speaker 1: things on YouTube shorts for kids, which is why the
Speaker 1: YouTube Kids app doesn't offer that. Anyway, Joe, I tell
Speaker 1: you all this stuff because first off, I want you
Speaker 1: to stay tuned, which I know you will. We've got
Speaker 1: a guest coming up at around half of the hour
Speaker 1: and she's going to talk about Internet filtering with a
Speaker 1: system called Bark, and that's one of them I've been
Speaker 1: testing out, but I think there's three main ones that
Speaker 1: I like. Bark is one of them, and this is
Speaker 1: a service that can filter not only smartphones, but also
Speaker 1: set time limits and filters on your home Internet. There's
Speaker 1: also one called Circle cr CLEE and Circle was actually
Speaker 1: started with Disney, and it was Circle with Disney and
Speaker 1: then they kind of branched off did their own thing.
Speaker 1: And so Circle is a physical kind of device you
Speaker 1: can connect to your router and it will filter everything
Speaker 1: on the network as well. And also there's just screen
Speaker 1: time limits and also Android has their parntal controls. I
Speaker 1: think it's called Family Time and or Family Link, and
Speaker 1: so you can do that as well. Now I use
Speaker 1: a combination of these things because I test a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff out in my home. So I've tried out Bark,
Speaker 1: I have tried out Circle, I use screen Time, and
Speaker 1: I also use the Family Link and also Microsoft has
Speaker 1: their own if you use Microsoft devices, they have their
Speaker 1: own prontal controls as well. And as you might imagine, Joe,
Speaker 1: my kids do not like me testing all of these
Speaker 1: things because they don't like any of them. And I
Speaker 1: get it, and I think that sometimes this stuff is
Speaker 1: so complicated to set up and keep running that parents
Speaker 1: just give up and they let their kids have free rein.
Speaker 1: And you know, if your kid is like my older kid,
Speaker 1: and they're okay with hey, it's time to be done
Speaker 1: with the iPad and you know, watch a movie or
Speaker 1: whatever or read a book, that's fine. But when you
Speaker 1: have kids like my other kid, who is a little
Speaker 1: bit more kind of like I want to be on
Speaker 1: this all day every day, it's tougher. And so sometimes
Speaker 1: we have to, you know, do things to protect these
Speaker 1: kids from themselves. And I think, Titanya, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: that coming up a little bit later in the show.
Speaker 1: But Joe, I think you sound like a pretty good kid.
Speaker 1: So I think that you're gonna help your parents set
Speaker 1: these internet filters for yourself or just provide your own guardrails.
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I probably actually will help them set it up.
Speaker 1: Probably will show your parents if you can figure out
Speaker 1: screen time, help your parents with that one, because that's
Speaker 1: that's the one I think if you have iOS devices,
Speaker 1: is probably a good starter, right, all right, thanks for
Speaker 1: listening in Indianapolis, Joe, I appreciate.
Speaker 7: It, sure, all right, thanks, all.
Speaker 1: Right, take care. Joe is going to be a successful kid.
Speaker 1: I can tell because if he's thinking about screen time
Speaker 1: and internet filtering at his age, that's a smart thing.
Speaker 1: He's probably just trying to evade his parents, which is
Speaker 1: probably what I would have done as a kid.
Speaker 2: So that's all good, all right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the iPhone, So Wall Street Journal had this
Speaker 1: big kind of expose on the fact that thieves are
Speaker 1: actually looking to watch how you type in your passcode
Speaker 1: on your phone, and then they steal your phone, type
Speaker 1: in your passcode and they can immediately do a password
Speaker 1: reset on your Apple account and steal all your information.
Speaker 1: They send money from like Venmo to themselves and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. So check out the article Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: Just google how to protect your iPhone from thieves. But
Speaker 1: I posted about this on my Instagram because I was
Speaker 1: really floored about this too. I didn't realize that they
Speaker 1: could do so much damage with a passcode. So Instagram
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech made this little infographic and okay,
Speaker 1: so once they unlock your phone, they immediately try to
Speaker 1: transfer money from apps like Venmo or cash app or
Speaker 1: your bank to their themselves, or they can go into
Speaker 1: your account settings and reset your Apple password and lock
Speaker 1: you out of all your devices, which I was not
Speaker 1: aware of. All you need to have is an unlocked iPhone.
Speaker 1: So if you really want it to be cruel to
Speaker 1: your friends, you could just grab their unlocked iPhone and
Speaker 1: literally ruin their lives. Don't do that, Please use your
Speaker 1: knowledge for good. First thing you gotta do, put a
Speaker 1: strong passcode on your phone, preferably six digits. If you
Speaker 1: really want to be wild, go for an alpha numeric code,
Speaker 1: which I don't know if I'm ready to do that
Speaker 1: just yet, because sometimes you do have to type in
Speaker 1: that code, and we all know how much we hate passwords.
Speaker 1: If you have to sit there and type in alpha
Speaker 1: numerica on your phone every time you want to unlock
Speaker 1: when face id's not working, o autolock set it to
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I've seen so many people that I know,
Speaker 1: they use their phone and then they just put it
Speaker 1: back in their purse or their pocket or their backpack
Speaker 1: with it unlocked.
Speaker 2: Do not do that.
Speaker 1: Lock your phone, press that side button to lock it up,
Speaker 1: or set that autolock to thirty seconds. Don't set it
Speaker 1: for never or fifteen minutes or ten minutes. It is
Speaker 1: way too long. Someone can pick up your phone and
Speaker 1: they can start using it. Definitely set an additional unlock
Speaker 1: passcode on any financial app that will support it, whether
Speaker 1: that's Venmo, cash app, PayPal, your bank account. I never
Speaker 1: did this in the past because I didn't really understand
Speaker 1: why they would have that. I was like, why does
Speaker 1: my bank need an extra passcode? Now I know why
Speaker 1: someone gets a hold of your phone it's unlocked. At
Speaker 1: least these apps ask for a secondary password. And finally,
Speaker 1: consider a password manager that doesn't rely on face ID
Speaker 1: and uses a separate passcode unlocked. So if you're using
Speaker 1: the built in password manager on iOS, the keychain iCloud keychain,
Speaker 1: once they unlock your phone, they can go right into
Speaker 1: that and unlock it with your passcode, so that means
Speaker 1: all of your passwords are now at risk. Now, if
Speaker 1: you really want to lock down your phone, you can
Speaker 1: set up screen time on your own account, not just
Speaker 1: your kids. Use a different pin and then go to
Speaker 1: the settings in screen Time, and there's a section called
Speaker 1: account changes if you choose don't allow, so if someone
Speaker 1: gets into your phone, if they get there, they will
Speaker 1: not be able to change your Apple ID password. So
Speaker 1: if you really want to protect yourself, set upscreen time
Speaker 1: and then do not allow changes under your account. Again,
Speaker 1: I've got the step by step instructions on my Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Later in the show, we're going to talk to someone
Speaker 1: from Bark Parental Controls about these new TikTok screen time limits.
Speaker 1: They're going to set a sixty minute time limit for
Speaker 1: any user under eighteen. We'll see what that's all about. Plus, uh,
Speaker 1: Microsoft is letting you link your iPhone to Windows. That's interesting,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you about some of the limitations to that.
Speaker 1: You are listening to me Rich Demiro here KTLA Channel
Speaker 1: five Tech reporter on rich on Tech. More of your
Speaker 1: calls after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My
Speaker 1: name is Rich DeMuro, talking technology, hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: taking your emails to a lot of you emailing me today.
Speaker 1: Morris says they tried or thank you for the story
Speaker 1: on Sudshare, the laundry service app I signed up for
Speaker 1: the first time. They picked up as requested, brought back today.
Speaker 1: It was all neat and tidy. The sudster was delightful
Speaker 1: and friendly and the price was reasonable. As a senior,
Speaker 1: it is wonderful to have this service. Thank you, sincerely, Moira.
Speaker 2: So cool. I love this.
Speaker 1: We talked about this sudster service last week where basically
Speaker 1: someone will come to your house, pick up your laundry,
Speaker 1: wash it at their house, fold it and return it
Speaker 1: to you. And yeah, a little controversial, right, A lot
Speaker 1: of people were saying, I'm not trusting people to you know,
Speaker 1: wash my what's a nice word for your you know
Speaker 1: the delegates, you know what I mean? Yeah, the the
Speaker 1: under rus let's so, I mean, I get it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, again talking about the gig economy,
Speaker 1: there is something for everyone and whether you want to
Speaker 1: make money doing someone else's laundry all you need is
Speaker 1: laundry room or like Moira that you know, no big deal,
Speaker 1: got the laundry done.
Speaker 2: So anyway, very cool, happy to help.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Microsoft Big big update to Windows eleven,
Speaker 1: a lot of new features. I'll just go over a
Speaker 1: couple of them. Bing Ai integrated into Windows taskbars. You
Speaker 1: might notice a new bing logo on your Windows taskbar.
Speaker 1: That's because the new bing Ai is built in, so
Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. I don't know if everyone has
Speaker 1: that immediately, but it will be coming to your PC.
Speaker 2: Windows.
Speaker 1: Microsoft is really trying to make good on their investment
Speaker 1: in chat open Ai, which is the company behind chat GPT.
Speaker 1: They are building this into everything that they make. Phone
Speaker 1: Link this is an app that has been around for
Speaker 1: Android users for a long time which allows you to
Speaker 1: kind of sync up your Android phone with your Windows computer,
Speaker 1: make phone calls, receive phone calls, send and receive texts. Well,
Speaker 1: now they're taking it a step further and now they've
Speaker 1: got phone Link for iOS. So now you can link
Speaker 1: up your iPhone to a Windows eleven PC and you
Speaker 1: can get your phone calls, you can make calls, and
Speaker 1: you also get some of your texts. Now I say
Speaker 1: some of your texts, because yes, you can send and
Speaker 1: receive texts, but it's a little bit limited, so you
Speaker 1: cannot do your group texts, you can't send photos and
Speaker 1: there's no history, so only the texts that you have
Speaker 1: sent and received through the new phone Link app will
Speaker 1: show up there. It's not going to be all of
Speaker 1: your texts from forever. But another thing that's kind of
Speaker 1: cool is Windows now finally has a proper screen recording
Speaker 1: tool built in. There's been many screen recorders you could
Speaker 1: have gotten third party, but now the Snipping tool, you
Speaker 1: know the one that lets you take screenshots, that will
Speaker 1: let you record video of your screen. So this is
Speaker 1: going to be a big deal for teachers and anyone
Speaker 1: else that uses screen recordings as a way to kind
Speaker 1: of teach people or show people what they're doing on
Speaker 1: their screen. There's even a new keyboard shortcut, Windows key
Speaker 1: plus shift key plus s will trigger a screen recording
Speaker 1: in the Snipping tool. Now, this is not going to
Speaker 1: happen automatically. You do need to get the Windows eleven update,
Speaker 1: So if you want that right now, you can go
Speaker 1: to Windows Update and you can check for updates.
Speaker 2: But otherwise, most folks will.
Speaker 1: Get this rolled out to their computer sometime this month,
Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty three. All right, let's go to
Speaker 1: Paul in Columbus, Ohio, one of my favorite Cities. Paul,
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich what's up?
Speaker 11: Hey guy. Good to hear you, and a good show
Speaker 11: so far. I've been listening to for you for the
Speaker 11: look weeks.
Speaker 12: The other day I was.
Speaker 11: With the on a group call with some their friends
Speaker 11: and somebody brought up this thing called pro theory and
Speaker 11: I tried to look it up. They were drilled with it.
Speaker 11: I looked it up and found videos on YouTube about it.
Speaker 11: Just came out in January apparently, and it really kind
Speaker 11: of it's connected with the chat GVT.
Speaker 4: I guess it is.
Speaker 11: And it likes if you you set up a trigger
Speaker 11: phrase for Siri instead of just saying hey Siri, you
Speaker 11: say what's up or whatever you want to say, and
Speaker 11: then it goes to that Siri, And like if you say,
Speaker 11: give me a recipe for a spaghetti sauce instead of
Speaker 11: like they do now will they give you like three
Speaker 11: choices of web pages, this one will actually just give
Speaker 11: you a recipe. A couple other ones too, more sophisticated,
Speaker 11: but that's gone the basic idea. Much more sophisticated than
Speaker 11: a regular SERI search. My question was, have you heard
Speaker 11: about it and would be just want to make sure
Speaker 11: it's safe.
Speaker 1: Okay, good question. Good, good question, because this chat has
Speaker 1: taken the world by storm. Now this is really using
Speaker 1: a series shortcut. It is legitimate. You can do it,
Speaker 1: but quite honestly, what I'd recommend doing, and what I
Speaker 1: have on my phone is BING the mobile app. Just
Speaker 1: go to bing dot com slash new and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a very useful thing. I
Speaker 1: am on it all day long now because I've got
Speaker 1: They just added Bing is using chat GPT technology into
Speaker 1: their own search engine. It's a little more polished than
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. If you want to set up
Speaker 1: the series shortcut to use chat GPT, go ahead, But
Speaker 1: I would not pay for it. And if you're listening
Speaker 1: and you're trying to think about downloading a chat GPT
Speaker 1: app to your phone, do not do it.
Speaker 2: They are all bogus.
Speaker 1: Do not pay for that right now, All right, coming up,
Speaker 1: we are going to talk to t Tanya Jordan from
Speaker 1: Bark Technologies about privacy and filtering for your teenagers online.
Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to you,
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Speaker 2: That's where it is, all right.
Speaker 1: Titanya Jordan is the uh Bark Technology's Chief parenting Officer.
Speaker 1: Bark is an online safety company. I've been testing out
Speaker 1: some of their filtering technology recently. They have a new
Speaker 1: partnership with the router Villo, and so this is a
Speaker 1: company I recommend a lot if parents want to filter
Speaker 1: stuff on the Internet for their kids.
Speaker 2: Tatanya, welcome to the show.
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: So just quickly give me an idea of what Bark
Speaker 1: is capable of doing.
Speaker 10: Sure, so, what Bark does is help protect over six
Speaker 10: and a half million children across the globe using a
Speaker 10: variety of tech. Most notably, we're using artificial intelligence to
Speaker 10: connect to children's devices, accounts, social media, text email, then
Speaker 10: analyze it, and then alert parents and caregivers to dangers
Speaker 10: that lie hidden deep within their digital signal. We also
Speaker 10: offer screen time and filtering solutions like a lot of
Speaker 10: other options that are out there. And then finally, we
Speaker 10: recently launched a smartphone because everybody was giving their kids
Speaker 10: smartphones that were not safe for kids. So that's what
Speaker 10: we do.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so let's talk about that because the you know,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, a lot of kids want iPhones. There
Speaker 1: are some limitations on what you're able to do even
Speaker 1: as a tech company, Like you can't physically go through
Speaker 1: everything in real time on a phone as many parents
Speaker 1: might want. Right, So can you just explain that real quick? Sure?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, yes, iPhones are what everybody wants in
Speaker 10: the US. It's interesting outside of the US, androids are preferred,
Speaker 10: but here we are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I digress.
Speaker 1: So blue bubble, it's all about the blue bubble. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, believe me, We've talked about it.
Speaker 10: But you know, Apple does not make it easy for
Speaker 10: parents to keep their kids safer on their devices. Yes,
Speaker 10: they have family sharing opportunities, but kids circumvent them with
Speaker 10: every new iOS software update comes new capabilities that are
Speaker 10: great for adults, but come new loopholes that children circumvent
Speaker 10: to get more screen time, to bypass filters, to talk
Speaker 10: to strangers, to send nudes, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's again, so if parents think that
Speaker 1: they can, like, in real time, if their kids says
Speaker 1: a certain word and they get an alert on their email,
Speaker 1: is that possible with Android?
Speaker 10: It's I'm not going to say it's real time, just
Speaker 10: just to cover my rear. Yeah, but it's pretty darn close, Okay.
Speaker 10: I would say it's as technologically possible as close to
Speaker 10: being real time.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, very cool.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the big news this
Speaker 1: week is that TikTok, every Parent's dream app, is setting
Speaker 1: a sixty minute automatic daily screen time limit for users
Speaker 1: under eighteen. Now this sounds like, wow, what an amazing company.
Speaker 1: They are so kind to our world for doing this.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeh?
Speaker 10: I'm sorry that I'm not sorry that I'm laughing because
Speaker 10: it's truly a joke.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 10: First of all, TikTok launched their version of printal Controls,
Speaker 10: which are truly just laughable because they give children that
Speaker 10: have these printal controls implemented within their TikTok interface, the
Speaker 10: ability to unlink from the parent account. Why do you
Speaker 10: give parents the illusion that they can keep their kids
Speaker 10: safer on your platform when you're giving the kid the
Speaker 10: ability to just disconnect it so and promblem one.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, how many parents are actually setting
Speaker 1: up this link in the first place. It's probably not many.
Speaker 10: It's certainly buried. I mean, I'm a mom, I'm on TikTok.
Speaker 10: They have never shared the fact that they have these
Speaker 10: printal controls with me, and they could do that easily
Speaker 10: through the notification, right exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this new sixty minute time limit applies to
Speaker 1: users under eighteen. Once that limit is reached, the teens
Speaker 1: will have to enter in a passcode in order to
Speaker 1: continue watching, and the way TikTok describes it, requiring them
Speaker 1: to make an active decision to extend that time. Now,
Speaker 1: do you really think there's gonna be a large percentage
Speaker 1: of teenagers who say, ooh, I've been on this for
Speaker 1: an hour, I should really stop. Let me not put
Speaker 1: in this passcode right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's like giving the three year old a spoon
Speaker 10: and a tumble of vibe, scream and saying just have
Speaker 10: one bite and then leaving the room.
Speaker 2: That applies to me too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I polished off some Halo top last night,
Speaker 1: but thankfully that whole thing.
Speaker 2: Is like not that bad for you.
Speaker 7: Go you with a keto.
Speaker 1: And then for kids under thirteen, the daily screen time
Speaker 1: limit will also be set to sixty minutes, but a
Speaker 1: parent or guardian will have to enter an existing passcode
Speaker 1: to enable an additional thirty minutes of watch time.
Speaker 10: So yeah, bigfootnote there. That's if TikTok knows your child's
Speaker 10: real age, if your child has given it their real age,
Speaker 10: which they usually don't, they usually lie and say they're
Speaker 10: eighteen twenty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids begged me to like lie for them.
Speaker 1: They say, Dad, can you please set me up with
Speaker 1: the account? And you know, being a tech person and
Speaker 1: the responsible person I try to be. I'm like kids,
Speaker 1: I can't, but I will be honest. I did set
Speaker 1: up one of my kids, the more responsible one with
Speaker 1: a slightly older age, on one of the accounts because
Speaker 1: it was just easier. And you know, I think parents
Speaker 1: are really put in a tough position here because they
Speaker 1: want to make things easy for their children, but also
Speaker 1: they want those protections. But those two things do not align,
Speaker 1: that's for sure, they really don't.
Speaker 10: And you know, inherently tech should arrive as safe as possible,
Speaker 10: and then if you are an adult, you should be
Speaker 10: able to you know, dial back some layers of safety
Speaker 10: because you're able to handle it. Instead, the majority of
Speaker 10: tech is just given to children with full access to
Speaker 10: all the things, and then parents and caregivers are left
Speaker 10: having to play that game of whack a mole. And
Speaker 10: it's unprecedented.
Speaker 2: Now, TikTok.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of ragging on TikTok here, but
Speaker 1: just kind of give me the bigger picture of things,
Speaker 1: like parents want to believe that their kids are just
Speaker 1: okay online. You deal with this on a daily basis.
Speaker 2: Is it safe out there?
Speaker 10: It's really not. And I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer.
Speaker 10: I'm not trying to be a fear mongerer. But every
Speaker 10: year we release an annual report based on the data.
Speaker 10: You know, I mentioned earlier we helped protect over six
Speaker 10: and a half mill children across the globe and so
Speaker 10: we've seen some things. Last year, we analyzed more than
Speaker 10: four and a half billion messages across text, email, YouTube apps,
Speaker 10: et cetera. And we found that the rate at which
Speaker 10: children are experiencing things from self harm and suicidal ideation
Speaker 10: to extreme sexual content and predators to disordered eating content
Speaker 10: and anxiety and bullying and depression and drugs and alcohol
Speaker 10: and violence are incredibly high in the sixty seventy eighty
Speaker 10: percentile range. It's very problematic.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like as an adult, it's tough
Speaker 1: to process sort of everything that you're exposed to online
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, not just the bad stuff, but
Speaker 1: also dealing with the time that we spend on our devices.
Speaker 1: Like I'm on my phone a lot. I'm getting messages
Speaker 1: from people all over the world that are talking to
Speaker 1: me and telling me stuff. And sometimes people are nice,
Speaker 1: sometimes they're mean. And that's for an adult to process,
Speaker 1: which you know, my brain is somewhat fully formed. Maybe
Speaker 1: some of it's gone, you know, but you know it's there,
Speaker 1: and you know, so for kids that are still, you know,
Speaker 1: at these critical stages of life, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: this is something we've never really had to go through before,
Speaker 1: as you know, humans, we haven't.
Speaker 10: We are in the words of my favorite documentary Childhood
Speaker 10: two dot Zho that's free on YouTube. I highly encourage
Speaker 10: anybody to watch it. There's a doctor in there that
Speaker 10: says we're essentially living in an experiment right now. What happens,
Speaker 10: we'll find out.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, cool, that is so true.
Speaker 1: All right, So I've got about a minute. Can you
Speaker 1: give me some takeaway? What can parents do today?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 10: Quick takeaways? First of all, you're listening to us, so
Speaker 10: good job, thank you. You are now more aware. Second
Speaker 10: thing you can do is talk to your kids. Please
Speaker 10: have ongoing, frequent, candid conversations with them about the toughest
Speaker 10: topics that humanity encounters. At a much younger agent. You
Speaker 10: might think, is it easy?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 10: Is it imperative yes. If they know that you are
Speaker 10: a safe place and you can talk about anything and
Speaker 10: they're not going to be punished or blamed or lose
Speaker 10: their access to the games and the phones, they'll be
Speaker 10: more likely to talk to you about these things when
Speaker 10: they come up. Finally, if your children do have access
Speaker 10: to tech, whether it's a gaming console, a smart television,
Speaker 10: a smartphone and iPad, etc. Please take the time to
Speaker 10: google the parental controls that come free and built in
Speaker 10: with whatever you've given them, because they are there and
Speaker 10: they are helpful. And then finally, if you're interested in
Speaker 10: what BARK does, look us up try a free trial.
Speaker 10: Happy to help protect your family.
Speaker 1: Titania Jordan, thank you so much, Chief Parent Officer at BARK.
Speaker 1: I know you're a parent, and I'm sure you have
Speaker 1: your own issues with what you know you have to
Speaker 1: go through. I know I do with two kids, and
Speaker 1: you know it's it's not easy, and we're we're techy's
Speaker 1: and so I imagine for parents that aren't dealing with
Speaker 1: us on a daily basis, with you know, knowing this stuff,
Speaker 1: it's even tougher. So thanks so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show today. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 10: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll put a link to Titanya on my
Speaker 1: website at richon tech dot tv. Go ahead and follow
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Speaker 6: Hi.
Speaker 12: Rich, thank you for taking my call. I have a
Speaker 12: volunteer job at the local senior center, and I've had
Speaker 12: a PC since about August in nineteen eighty seven, the
Speaker 12: same one August of eighty seven, I've had a PC.
Speaker 12: I've had a Mac for ten years and right now
Speaker 12: I'm using a Microsoft Surface Book. Anyway, one of the
Speaker 12: customers at the senior center who came in the computer room,
Speaker 12: asked me. He says, everybody told me I should get
Speaker 12: a computer? What should I buy? What should I get?
Speaker 12: And you know, I've been doing this for god god,
Speaker 12: almost thirty or forty years, and I just you know,
Speaker 12: I'm Betwicks in between. What what do you advise people
Speaker 12: like that? I asked him, and he says he only
Speaker 12: has the landline and knows nothing about computers.
Speaker 7: Well, what do you do?
Speaker 12: Would people ask you questions like that?
Speaker 2: I send him somewhere else. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mean that's why you're calling me. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: you know, so you're saying that they don't have Wi
Speaker 1: Fi at their home?
Speaker 2: Is that part of it?
Speaker 12: They probably do not?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: So that I mean, I mean, here's the thing. If
Speaker 1: you're and how old.
Speaker 2: Is this person?
Speaker 12: Ah, he's crazy?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, they probably want something that's simple.
Speaker 1: They probably want something that's easy. And I would say,
Speaker 1: I mean, the ideal situation would be that this computer
Speaker 1: would probably have five G built into it or you know,
Speaker 1: a cellular connection. But I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: want to do that. I mean, are they going to
Speaker 1: want to pay twenty thirty bucks a month for a
Speaker 1: cellular connection on this computer.
Speaker 12: Of course not. And then I was thinking, well, maybe
Speaker 12: they would be happy with a kindle or something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like, yeah, I don't know, that's not
Speaker 1: going to really you can't really go online.
Speaker 12: Oh, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, the thing that I would recommend,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of things, but I would
Speaker 1: recommend a Chromebook obviously, because that's just super simple. It's
Speaker 1: very easy, it's full proof. It's basically a glorified Chrome
Speaker 1: web browser. So they're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: make any mistakes on this thing. They're not gonna have
Speaker 1: to worry about viruses. I think the biggest trick is
Speaker 1: really the Internet. So what i'd recommend is probably a
Speaker 1: nice Chromebook and then maybe a hot spot. So do
Speaker 1: they have a cell phone?
Speaker 12: I know he has just a landline.
Speaker 2: Okay, just a landline.
Speaker 1: Well, so what I would do is maybe recommend if
Speaker 1: they you know, and again they're gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: a little bit to get this internet. They could do
Speaker 1: two things. Number one, they can get this chromebook and
Speaker 1: they can use it at a place like a Starbucks
Speaker 1: or McDonald's. Or a library wherever they have free internet access,
Speaker 1: so they can do that, find out a local place
Speaker 1: that has a free Wi Fi signal, maybe the Senior
Speaker 1: center has it, and they can just use their computer
Speaker 1: when they do that. Since you're telling me this person
Speaker 1: has not really used a computer in their most adult life,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go from zero to
Speaker 1: one hundred where they need to use it every single
Speaker 1: second of the day. So maybe they just get a
Speaker 1: computer that they bring to the senior center once, you know,
Speaker 1: an hour a day and they do their stuff on there.
Speaker 1: They check their email, they surf the web, watch YouTube,
Speaker 1: and you know, and then they can bring it home
Speaker 1: and that's it.
Speaker 12: But if they hadn't thought of the chromebook, is particular
Speaker 12: model of chrome book that you would recommend off the
Speaker 12: top of your head.
Speaker 2: Or there is no there is?
Speaker 1: Because I was just well, there's a couple of plays,
Speaker 1: I mean you could take, you know, I've been testing
Speaker 1: one that I really like that I thought was pretty inexpensive.
Speaker 1: It's like under five hundred dollars. It's uh gosh, I
Speaker 1: think it's the ACER five fourteen. I repeat that, the
Speaker 1: ACER five fourteen. Let me just make sure because I'm
Speaker 1: looking up. We just did this on KTLA. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the Acer five fourteen, So that's.
Speaker 2: A good one. Now, I have you heard of the
Speaker 2: website wirecutter.
Speaker 1: I have, so I like what they recommend I've I've
Speaker 1: interviewed kimber Streams over there and we've talked about the
Speaker 1: recommendations that they have and they really like let's see
Speaker 1: the Lenovo Flex five I, which is anywhere from three
Speaker 1: to five hundred dollars. So I would take a look
Speaker 1: at those two. But that's going to be a good start. Now,
Speaker 1: Samsung has some laptops, but I think they're too expensive
Speaker 1: for what but you're looking at. But they do have
Speaker 1: some cellular capabilities built in, sort of the Microsoft surface laptops.
Speaker 1: We're seeing more and more of these laptops get cellular
Speaker 1: built in. But the problem is, you know, it's expensive,
Speaker 1: it really SAPs the battery, and I think that it
Speaker 1: just makes things a little bit complicated for someone that's
Speaker 1: just getting out.
Speaker 12: I'm sure the guy is gonna freak out when I
Speaker 12: recommend something in the area of five hundred dollars, but
Speaker 12: that's about where I would go myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you can get a Chromebook for
Speaker 1: much cheaper. You can get a chromebook for two three
Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: But you know the old adage, you get what you
Speaker 2: pay for.
Speaker 1: And if they're just getting on this thing and it's
Speaker 1: slow and it's just not nice and it's just like
Speaker 1: a slog to get through it, they're just not gonna
Speaker 1: have a good experience. But you know you can get them.
Speaker 1: And believe me, they do have. I mean this Chromebook
Speaker 1: that they're recommending, this Lenovo Flex five I. Let's see
Speaker 1: how much it is on Amazon. It is it's two
Speaker 1: ninety nine, So you know what go with that one?
Speaker 1: That's a Lenovo Idea Pad Flex five I. Two hundred
Speaker 1: and ninetynine bucks. That's a pretty good price for a
Speaker 1: computer to get started with. All right, all right, John,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling today. I appreciate it. Good
Speaker 1: luck with that. That's definitely h You know, it's one
Speaker 1: of those things where I recommend tech products all the time,
Speaker 1: and yes, people want stuff that is inexpensive, and I
Speaker 1: understand that, but you do get what.
Speaker 2: You pay for.
Speaker 1: And if I was recommending a laptop to like a
Speaker 1: college student or something like that, you know, the MacBooks
Speaker 1: they're a little bit more expensive, but they last a
Speaker 1: very very long time. And believe me, I have a
Speaker 1: whole system where I passed down my old computer to
Speaker 1: like family members, and I still have my dad. I
Speaker 1: was just home and he's still using a twenty thirteen
Speaker 1: computer and you're talking ten years old. And I, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, I need a new computer, this one soul,
Speaker 1: I said, Dad, I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Like this thing is still running really well. Now some
Speaker 1: of the software updates, yeah, they're not really coming through anymore.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, it's just all about the longevity
Speaker 1: with this stuff.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about ring real quick. If if
Speaker 1: you have a ring alarm system, starting March twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay for some new features, including
Speaker 1: arming and disarming the system from the app. So if
Speaker 1: you want to continue arming and disarming your ring alarm
Speaker 1: system using the app, you're gonna have to start paying
Speaker 1: three dollars and ninety nine cents a month. Not a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of money, it's forty bucks a year, but
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to do after March twenty ninth.
Speaker 1: So you can still arm and disarm manually using the
Speaker 1: keypad in your home. But this is very similar similar
Speaker 1: to what simply Safe does. If you want their basic
Speaker 1: subscription that you know you're just using sort of the
Speaker 1: keyfob or the the the actual system to arm and disarm,
Speaker 1: you pay one price. But if you want the app
Speaker 1: to do it, which of course is more convenient, you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay a secondary price. So starting March twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: free ride is over for ring folks. So again, this
Speaker 1: is just a trend we're seeing with all these companies.
Speaker 1: The re ride with all these tech companies is definitely over.
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Speaker 1: reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Hope you
Speaker 1: are having a fantastic day. I know I am, and
Speaker 1: man I said, this show is going by fast. We
Speaker 1: are in our number three. When they said Rich, could
Speaker 1: you do a three hour show? I said, hmm, I'm
Speaker 1: usually talking on TV for about two to three minutes,
Speaker 1: so three hours sounded kind of long, but uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, now that I'm doing it, I could talk
Speaker 1: even longer. Should we start a longer rich on Tech? No,
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I think I think three hours is
Speaker 1: good for now. All right, you can find me online
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. Let's go to Brian in Ventura, California. Brian,
Speaker 1: you're on with rich calling from a very beautiful place.
Speaker 1: We were just up in Ventura and people when I
Speaker 1: post it to my Instagram, they said, stop posting about
Speaker 1: our place.
Speaker 2: We don't want people to come here.
Speaker 6: It's tough to live here.
Speaker 2: What can I help you with?
Speaker 4: It's good to be me, Rich.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm looking to upgrade my my smart TV. As
Speaker 6: I'm getting older, though, I'm having some hearing loss and
Speaker 6: I'm finding it very difficult to listen, particularly to like
Speaker 6: the series TV shows. I can hear fine if i'm
Speaker 6: listening to the news, but when it comes to TV shows,
Speaker 6: I just I just I had no idea what they're saying.
Speaker 1: It's not just you, by the way, that's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's like a thing like it's some of these
Speaker 1: shows are really tough. Like a lot of people watch
Speaker 1: with the with the captioning on like I know, I do,
Speaker 1: my wife does, because it could be really tough to
Speaker 1: hear sometimes and it's and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: get like a commercial and it's like, you know, blowing
Speaker 1: your ear drums out.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I understand.
Speaker 6: That's the problem my current my current TV. Sometimes I
Speaker 6: can get the captioning, sometimes I can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're looking to upgrade. What can I help
Speaker 2: you with?
Speaker 6: My question is do the do the current TVs? Do
Speaker 6: they have the ability for me to listen via a
Speaker 6: Bluetooth headphone and my wife still listen on either our soundbar.
Speaker 4: Or the TV speakers?
Speaker 6: And what about something called a dual output?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and that's what I was going to mention.
Speaker 1: So it depends on the TV obviously and the specific
Speaker 1: model that you get, but some of the TVs, some
Speaker 1: of the smart TVs can do this. And it also
Speaker 1: depends you know what you're are you going to use
Speaker 1: the built in software on the TV?
Speaker 6: Well, we typically right now we use Roku.
Speaker 1: Oh you do use Roku Okay, so that could be
Speaker 1: different because you know, depending on how the Roku's set
Speaker 1: up that now to use the Roku software on the TV,
Speaker 1: or is it a separate box.
Speaker 6: It's a separate plug in because the current TV doesn't
Speaker 6: have apps or anything.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, but you're trying to upgrade to a whole
Speaker 1: new TV. You're saying, yes, okay, so okay, well just
Speaker 1: just I mean, so Samsung, I know, does the dual
Speaker 1: output and so you can connect you know, the speaker.
Speaker 1: You can connect a Bluetooth audio device and have the
Speaker 1: speaker as well, so you get the best of both worlds.
Speaker 11: There.
Speaker 1: Uh, that's the one I know of I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I think you know some of the other TVs. I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of the TVs do that, especially the
Speaker 1: smart TVs give you that option, but it is something
Speaker 1: you have to turn on in the option, so I know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the dual audio is the thing.
Speaker 1: It's something It's interesting because you know, some of the
Speaker 1: smartphones I test have this feature as well, and obviously
Speaker 1: Apple has it with their with their own headphones. But
Speaker 1: it's one of these things like you know, you got
Speaker 1: two different people, they want to listen two different ways,
Speaker 1: you know, like let's give these people these options. And
Speaker 1: I think with software nowadays, a lot of that is capable.
Speaker 1: It just depends on whether the manufacturer builds it in,
Speaker 1: whether they allow it, or whether they you know, take
Speaker 1: the time to program it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: But if you're you, I can hook my I can
Speaker 6: hook it up to my current TV via Bluetooth, but
Speaker 6: it shuts off the TV speakers in the sandbar.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Is this an older TV?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like first generation?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably why. I mean TVs have definitely gotten
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, But I would, I would, I would
Speaker 1: check to see if it has this capability.
Speaker 2: Like whatever model you've fund with, what's that?
Speaker 6: I can't find it anywhere.
Speaker 2: On the TV specs?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 1: Well, I know Samsung, I mean just looking up if
Speaker 1: I let's see, if I look up Samsung dual Audio,
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a thing. So it's yea, it's
Speaker 1: a thing. So I would, you know, I would definitely
Speaker 1: check into that and see, you know, maybe if you're
Speaker 1: I would, you know, maybe find one of these like
Speaker 1: really in depth reviews on something and like if you're
Speaker 1: if you're narrowing down on the TV, I would, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure that it has that functionality. And that may
Speaker 1: take like a kind of a deeper Google search to
Speaker 1: see if someone has mentioned it. But it looks like
Speaker 1: from what I'm seeing a lot of the Samsung TVs,
Speaker 1: if you go into the accessibility feature, I think that's
Speaker 1: really you know, where it's gonna where it's going to live.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay. The second question is, uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: looking at a Costco TV and evidently the ones that
Speaker 6: I'm looking at are a two year old model. Does
Speaker 6: that really make a difference.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so at all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know what you're going to
Speaker 1: get from two years ago. I mean, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: I have a TV that's, you know, many years old,
Speaker 1: and it still works just fine. So I think the
Speaker 1: newer TVs, you know, they might be brighter, they may
Speaker 1: have more backlit areas in them, they may have you know,
Speaker 1: new types of lighting. You know, they've got these micro
Speaker 1: LEDs and things like that. But this is what I
Speaker 1: tell people. If you're going from a TV that you
Speaker 1: just said is you know, ten years old, to a
Speaker 1: TV that's two years old, I think you're gonna be
Speaker 1: just fine. And I think that if you're getting a
Speaker 1: good deal on this thing and it does what you need,
Speaker 1: I don't see why you wouldn't get it.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, well that's terrific. I appreciate your time
Speaker 6: and keep up the good work.
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, appreciate it. Enjoy life in sunny Ventura, California. Ah,
Speaker 1: let's tell you about a couple of things happening in
Speaker 1: the tech world this week. If you've got a Google
Speaker 1: pixel Watch, and I'm tempted to make a joke here
Speaker 1: and so to say, like all three of you, I
Speaker 1: know tech humor, but look, you know, the pixel Watch,
Speaker 1: it just I think it failed to impress a lot
Speaker 1: of people because it just was very simple. The Apple
Speaker 1: Watch is just so strong of a contender that I
Speaker 1: think the pixel Watch is good and I like it
Speaker 1: as an option for Android, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: it was like it's just okay, and you know, the
Speaker 1: screen is small. But anyway, if you got a pixel Watch,
Speaker 1: and I think it's great because I think it's nice
Speaker 1: to have a nice watch option on the Android side
Speaker 1: of things. But they did finally roll out their fall
Speaker 1: detection to the pixel Watch, So if you were watching
Speaker 1: the launch of this thing, they said we're gonna have
Speaker 1: fall detection. Within a couple of months, the pixel Watch
Speaker 1: launched and I think it was October and now they
Speaker 1: are rolling out the fall detection, So if you got
Speaker 1: this thing and you were curious about this, you should
Speaker 1: probably activate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's a very very helpful feature. And fall
Speaker 1: detection will basically if you ever fall with your watch on,
Speaker 1: it will call nine one one or it will dial
Speaker 1: folks in your emergency contact. So if you want to
Speaker 1: activate it, you can check for it on the device
Speaker 1: or in the Personal Safety app on Android. And it's
Speaker 1: been tested and obviously Google is very familiar with algorithms,
Speaker 1: so they've tried to make sure that they can justinguish
Speaker 1: between doing something that's you know, physical or something that
Speaker 1: would actually mean you fell. And I had with the
Speaker 1: Apple Watch a couple of times where I'm sort of
Speaker 1: wrestling with the kids, you hit the ground pretty hard
Speaker 1: and it would say.
Speaker 2: Oh, did you just take a fall?
Speaker 1: And you know, so it happens, but usually with this one,
Speaker 1: so for instance, they're going to have a thirty second timeout,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna, you know, once it detects a hard fall,
Speaker 1: it's gonna wait thirty seconds for any sort of movement
Speaker 1: before it will vibrate and set off an audible alarm.
Speaker 1: That sounds like kind of a lot to me, Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be sitting there for thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: but I guess it's better than nothing. And then once
Speaker 1: this happens, notification prompt will pop up on the watch
Speaker 1: and ask if you need help, and if you don't,
Speaker 1: you can say you're okay. Otherwise you can say I
Speaker 1: fell and need help, or it will just proceed to
Speaker 1: call emergency services. It will share a location with them,
Speaker 1: or you can speak to the U nine one one
Speaker 1: operator through the watch. So I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I really enjoy having cellular on
Speaker 1: my watch, because you just never know, you know, you're
Speaker 1: out there running, and it's just something I'd never really
Speaker 1: thought about before because I've run outside by myself for
Speaker 1: so long. But can you imagine just like being stuck
Speaker 1: there and like not being able to like get help.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just.
Speaker 1: Don't even want to think about that. Should you click
Speaker 1: unsubscribe on an email?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 1: This is a question that I get off and often so.
Speaker 1: The bottom line is, and this is from Roger Grimes.
Speaker 1: He is from No Before security expert. He has been
Speaker 1: on the show before, but he sent out this little
Speaker 1: primer this week.
Speaker 2: Should you click on unsubscribed?
Speaker 1: The short answer is yes if it's from a legitimate
Speaker 1: company sending you the email. No if it looks like
Speaker 1: it's from a spam marketer. If you click an email
Speaker 1: that says you know, if it's from a spammer, and
Speaker 1: you click on subscribe, it just basically tells them that
Speaker 1: this email address is great and they should send you
Speaker 1: more spam. So do not click on unsubscribe in these
Speaker 1: emails that you know. I'm not going to say what
Speaker 1: they say with all these emails that you get that
Speaker 1: you know they're spam, they're not legitimate. But if you
Speaker 1: get one from Macy's Best Buy home depot, sure you
Speaker 1: can click on subscribe and they will honor that. The
Speaker 1: one loophole he said is that they can still email
Speaker 1: you even if you said unsubscribe if it is related
Speaker 1: to a transactional or relationship, meaning you've done business with
Speaker 1: this company before and it continues the relationship with that company.
Speaker 1: So they could kind of get around this like spam
Speaker 1: situation by saying, well, we think that we still need
Speaker 1: to email Rich just to make sure about this thing,
Speaker 1: this sale that we're having. So again, should you click
Speaker 1: on unsubscribed, don't. When in doubt, just delete the email
Speaker 1: without clicking any of the links. If it's spam, report
Speaker 1: it as spam using your email provider, or if it's
Speaker 1: a legitimate email, definitely unsubscribe. In fact, I love unsubscribing.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to do if it's
Speaker 1: from a legitimate company. Up, you've heard of this whole
Speaker 1: Last Past debacle. We're going to talk to Wirecutter security
Speaker 1: expert Thorin Klowsowski. He is going to talk to us
Speaker 1: about some of the alternatives to last pass if you're
Speaker 1: thinking of making a switch, plus some of the third
Speaker 1: party password managers that they recommend. You are listening to
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, coming up
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Speaker 2: Elijah's in Westwood, Elijah, what's up?
Speaker 4: Hey, Rich? Great fans of the show, we listened to
Speaker 4: it every week here at the shop and yeah, really
Speaker 4: appreciate the work you do. So I'd like to talk
Speaker 4: to you first about the gentleman at the senior center
Speaker 4: that was looking at options for connectivity for the seniors.
Speaker 4: I have a shop that's a tech shop that's devoted
Speaker 4: technology education, digital literacy for seniors and adult learners here
Speaker 4: in Westwood, and very often you can make a connection,
Speaker 4: whether it's an ADHC and adult day healthcare center or
Speaker 4: senior living and many of the same options that are
Speaker 4: provided to the on housed population that has connectivity, you know,
Speaker 4: inside of the shelters can be given. Often you'll see
Speaker 4: a booth you know, with people handing our phones, they
Speaker 4: can be contacted and they have a program where they
Speaker 4: hand out alt hotel and different tablets. Yes, have connectivity,
Speaker 4: and they're often given for up to a year of connectivity.
Speaker 4: Now the tablet's is a decent option to warm somebody up.
Speaker 4: It has that three, four or five G connectivity, you
Speaker 4: know what.
Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't even think about a tablet
Speaker 1: because he said computer, and you're right, like an I
Speaker 1: had with cellular even I mean, now again this is
Speaker 1: all very it gets very expensive very quickly. But yeah,
Speaker 1: something like the Affordable Connectivity Program in this case might work.
Speaker 6: I think it does.
Speaker 4: You know, they often give classes with it as well,
Speaker 4: or we give classes with them, and those options are
Speaker 4: out there sometimes. Rich, I think there were some laws where,
Speaker 4: you know, in the state of California where different providers,
Speaker 4: whether the Frontier or Sprint or T Mobile, so on
Speaker 4: and so forth. I'm just suggesting I need to share
Speaker 4: certain amounts of bandwidth for you know, certain of our
Speaker 4: populations in need. And that could not be an insolubly
Speaker 4: financial need. It could be an accessibility need for a
Speaker 4: senior or you know, a person that has some physical challenges,
Speaker 4: and we work with those companies in those options. So
Speaker 4: those are definitely options that an admin could explore, and
Speaker 4: I believe they're out there because you know, we help books.
Speaker 2: Good call doing those things.
Speaker 1: What's the scam I see here? I got to know
Speaker 1: if you have a scam scam going around, what's the scam?
Speaker 1: There's so many scams. I got my way in on here.
Speaker 1: I got a phone call from the power company saying
Speaker 1: my electricity is going to be turned off in a
Speaker 1: half an hour. It was like a half an hour
Speaker 1: unless I paid my bill immediately. So I even get
Speaker 1: to like the payment part before I hung up. But
Speaker 1: what's h But people fall for this stuff? What's the scam?
Speaker 4: So there are oftenly many going around now. The most
Speaker 4: popular ones I see right now are two either on
Speaker 4: the email scam coming from something with a brand name
Speaker 4: like PayPal or a package delivery ups so on and
Speaker 4: so forth. Those need to be very successful because you're
Speaker 4: at the shop we often deal with the aftermath. And
Speaker 4: my suggestion is, of course, to get it in your
Speaker 4: mind that the worst thing that can happen is if
Speaker 4: you avoid an email, is you get a late fee,
Speaker 4: and then you can deal with that in the future.
Speaker 4: But it's really integral that when folks use their emails,
Speaker 4: if somebody can help someone update an older quote unquote Pacbell,
Speaker 4: dot net, caa dot roadrunner, older hotmails, you know certain
Speaker 4: males that you can get any longer their legacy. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and move that person to And I'm not promoting any
Speaker 4: company but Google or so on and so forth. You'll
Speaker 4: be a lot more protective. I feel as though, and
Speaker 4: those older emails from justices all just info that comes
Speaker 4: into the shop from folks that those older emails are
Speaker 4: legacies and they're just not giving the attention that are
Speaker 4: current emails.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're on autopilot, like the companies are pilot.
Speaker 1: They're not putting any any effort into any spam filtering
Speaker 1: or anything like that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're waiting today, you know, and they've sold
Speaker 4: their five hundred times at different companies down the line,
Speaker 4: and who knows where they are. And you know, and
Speaker 4: I suggest to our folks here that that computer or
Speaker 4: that phone or that tablet looks like a thirty minute
Speaker 4: episode of I Love Lucy, where there's a beginning, a middle,
Speaker 4: and an end. It doesn't have to be that way.
Speaker 4: When you're on there. You can stop in the middle
Speaker 4: and reach out to somebody close to you, parent, friend, child,
Speaker 4: anybody around you and view that with that person. That
Speaker 4: patience is the greatest antidote to those scam rooms because
Speaker 4: they're good rich. Oh I know, you can get a
Speaker 4: Windows eight point one computer with spotty connectivity to get
Speaker 4: a team viewer on there and convince that soul to
Speaker 4: go to a store and get gift cards.
Speaker 2: Oh I know.
Speaker 4: And I can't get my mom to you know, say
Speaker 4: good morning sometimes, but they could get her to do
Speaker 4: all that. Per se.
Speaker 2: It's all, it's all fear based and time based.
Speaker 1: Elijah, I got to run, but thank you so much,
Speaker 1: and tell Kim your info so we can give you
Speaker 1: a call back.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes we have medicaea. I want you to know
Speaker 4: it's a great job.
Speaker 1: Keep it up, all right, thanks Elijah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Good information there. Wow, I mean there's just so much.
Speaker 1: It's just it's sad to me that our seniors and
Speaker 1: so much of our so many people. It doesn't even
Speaker 1: not just seniors, it's people fall for this stuff all
Speaker 1: the time. And it's because scam artists are literally working
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven to figure out ways of appealing
Speaker 1: to our better you know, our senses, you know, like
Speaker 1: just just our kindness. Really, that's what it comes down to,
Speaker 1: our human nature.
Speaker 2: All right. Coming up, we're going to talk about Last Pass.
Speaker 1: I know that they've been having some issues and you
Speaker 1: might be thinking should I stick with them? Should I
Speaker 1: stay with them? Should I ditch them? So we're going
Speaker 1: to talk to the experts at the Wirecutter about you know,
Speaker 1: what you should do the latest with the whole Last
Speaker 1: Past issue. How they were hacked. You know, the security
Speaker 1: company was hacked themselves and whether you should switch to
Speaker 1: sort of a new provider or just stick it out
Speaker 1: with them. So we'll talk about that coming up. Plus
Speaker 1: I might have some more time for some questions. I'm
Speaker 1: also going to talk about the most response I've ever
Speaker 1: gotten to one of the segments we've done here, So
Speaker 1: I'm going to start a new little system here, a
Speaker 1: new little segment here called feedback, because you're listening and
Speaker 1: you're also telling me some of the things that maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know. So we'll get to that before the
Speaker 1: end of the show. You're listening to rich on Tech.
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Speaker 1: name is rich Demiro, tech reporter at KTLA Channel five
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I don't know if you heard about
Speaker 1: this whole Last Past debacle, but last Pass is a
Speaker 1: very popular password manager and they were hacked. So now
Speaker 1: folks that use it are probably wondering like do I
Speaker 1: stick with it?
Speaker 2: Do I not?
Speaker 1: So let's bring in security expert thorin Klosowski.
Speaker 2: Let's see where are we here channel?
Speaker 1: There we go, Thorn. I'm still learning the phone lines
Speaker 1: here and your last name?
Speaker 2: Did I? Did? I totally butcher that?
Speaker 3: I no?
Speaker 9: I think it was right.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh good.
Speaker 1: Thorn is the security expert at Wirecutter and thanks for.
Speaker 2: Joining me today.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: So can you give me an update on this last
Speaker 1: past situation? What is the latest? How did they get hacked?
Speaker 9: So the latest is we actually kind of know how
Speaker 9: they did get hacked, which was a like a targeted
Speaker 9: attack on one of their engineers through their home computer
Speaker 9: network and through software called Plex, which is like a
Speaker 9: media server. They were kind of able to get into
Speaker 9: this person's network entirely and access to their passwords, which
Speaker 9: included their last past passwords for their enterprise accounts, so.
Speaker 1: They had an open port I'm guessing for this like
Speaker 1: lot for this plex sharing or something, and then that's
Speaker 1: how they got in.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not totally sure what the specifics are. It
Speaker 9: was an actual vulnerability, though we do know much because
Speaker 9: it was patched. So they had also not managed to
Speaker 9: update their plans uh that entire time.
Speaker 2: Oh that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1: You think you had a bad day and then you
Speaker 1: hear this person's story and you're like, oh, like, you're
Speaker 1: responsible for this company, Like you know, basically it's not
Speaker 1: been good for last past and they are. They were
Speaker 1: a company that I've recommended in the past, and recently
Speaker 1: I've recommend other companies. But I'm curious, do you think
Speaker 1: people stick with them or is it time to move on.
Speaker 9: I think it's time to move on. They've kind of
Speaker 9: had enough issues over the years that it kind of
Speaker 9: was already eching that way anyway, and the way that
Speaker 9: they've disclosed how all this happened has been so bad
Speaker 9: that it kind of makes me lose confidence. You can
Speaker 9: kind of give a company the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 9: a lot of the time because of this stuff happens,
Speaker 9: but the way that they have handled it has been
Speaker 9: very poor.
Speaker 1: Now, you cover privacy and security for Wirecutter. Tell me
Speaker 1: about your thoughts on having a password manager in general.
Speaker 1: People always joke to me like, is it a s
Speaker 1: to just, you know, keep this stuff on a piece
Speaker 1: of paper? And in some ways that is actually safe,
Speaker 1: but there's no way you can keep you know, a
Speaker 1: hundred passwords written down and unique and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on actually implementing this tech?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that most people who are online should
Speaker 9: have a password manager. I do think that there's a
Speaker 9: certain set of people who would be fine with a
Speaker 9: piece of paper if they only have, you know, an
Speaker 9: email account and you know, maybe a couple of newspaper
Speaker 9: logins or whatever their bank. But if you have more
Speaker 9: than fifteen passwords or so, that becomes pretty untenable, and
Speaker 9: a password manager can help ease that. And it's more
Speaker 9: likely that one of the companies you have an account
Speaker 9: at is going to have a data breach than a
Speaker 9: password manager in most cases.
Speaker 1: And once you start reusing those passwords, they will find
Speaker 1: where you've used them in other places.
Speaker 2: And exploit that.
Speaker 9: Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the password manager situation, I mean, first off,
Speaker 1: you've got these built in password managers, like I know
Speaker 1: iOS has one, the iCloud keychain, and then Google really
Speaker 1: pushes THEIRS, which they recently updated so that it works
Speaker 1: pretty well cross platform on iOS and Android and Chrome,
Speaker 1: which is like a majority of what people do. So
Speaker 1: do you recommend those.
Speaker 2: At all or no?
Speaker 9: Yes and no. I think that if you are not
Speaker 9: super tech savvy and you stick within the ecosystem of
Speaker 9: the products that you buy. So if you're ever you
Speaker 9: have an Android phone and you kind of everything you
Speaker 9: do is in Chrome on your desktop, you're an Apple
Speaker 9: user and you have an iPhone and iPad and you
Speaker 9: use Safari on your Mac, then the built in ones
Speaker 9: are probably actually going to be fine for you. If
Speaker 9: you use a lot of different browsers, or if you
Speaker 9: tend to bounce between operating systems, maybe you have a
Speaker 9: Windows computer and an iPhone, it starts to there's a
Speaker 9: lot of friction there that makes it untenable to use
Speaker 9: on a day to day basis, I would say.
Speaker 1: And I mean the other fear is like I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of this whole like iPhone, you
Speaker 1: know pin like you know, pin hijacking, passcode hijacking, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it. I mean, looking over your shoulder,
Speaker 1: it's not even a hijack. They're just watching you put
Speaker 1: in your code. And I was surprised because I went
Speaker 1: through and I kind of tested that stuff, and I
Speaker 1: looked at the password manager, which I don't use on
Speaker 1: on iOS, the keychain thing, and yeah, it authorizes via
Speaker 1: your face ID, but if that fails, then it goes
Speaker 1: to your passcode. So basically, if someone has a passcode
Speaker 1: to your phone, now they have the code to all
Speaker 1: of your passwords. If you're using that device, that's kind
Speaker 1: of scary.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree, And I think it's it's all
Speaker 9: about just kind of figuring out what you need in
Speaker 9: that moment. I personally don't like to put all of
Speaker 9: my eggs in one basket in that way. But also
Speaker 9: I feel like it's so important that people use unique
Speaker 9: passwords that what they will use is what they should use.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if your iPhone's suggesting like, hey, can we
Speaker 1: create password and save it for you, like unless you
Speaker 1: have a reason that you want to use something else,
Speaker 1: like that's just go for it. Yep, Okay, So with
Speaker 1: that said, with these third party password managers, what do
Speaker 1: you recommend and why.
Speaker 9: We recommend too? One Password and Bitwarden. One Password is
Speaker 9: a paid subscription, which I know a lot of people
Speaker 9: don't like, but in the case of security software, I mean,
Speaker 9: you can kind of see where the money is going.
Speaker 9: They update their Apple lot. It works extremely well across
Speaker 9: operating systems and devices. It's pretty to look at as
Speaker 9: far as software can get anyway, and it just is
Speaker 9: kind of a seamless process no matter where you're at.
Speaker 9: And it's probably has the best onboarding of any password
Speaker 9: manager I've ever used, where if you have never used
Speaker 9: a password manager before, it kind of guides you toward
Speaker 9: what you're doing and helps you set it up securely.
Speaker 4: The way it.
Speaker 9: Works is that they use a special secret key that
Speaker 9: you actually literally have to print out whenever you first
Speaker 9: set it up, which helps prevent issues like the last
Speaker 9: pass issues. Doesn't make it impenetrable, but it does make
Speaker 9: it would make it much harder for anyone to ever
Speaker 9: get into your account without that long code that they
Speaker 9: have you print out. And if you don't like paying
Speaker 9: for things, I also like bit Warden, which is a
Speaker 9: little bit clunkier, but gets the job done and it's
Speaker 9: free or ten dollars for the year I think is
Speaker 9: their subscription.
Speaker 4: It's very very cheap.
Speaker 1: It's not as like polished like it's it's great and
Speaker 1: it's nice that they still offer a free option, which
Speaker 1: a lot of these other ones don't, but it's not
Speaker 1: as maybe not as slick like I actually got my
Speaker 1: try to get my dad to use bitwarden, and when
Speaker 1: I was setting it up for him, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's good, and it's great for like a you know,
Speaker 1: if you have a couple, like a couple devices like
Speaker 1: he you know, he's not got too much stuff, but
Speaker 1: it just it became a little bit like clunky. I
Speaker 1: was like, eh, this is so I actually switched to
Speaker 1: the Google situation because I was like, this is just easier,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 9: That's kind of what I've usually recommend with like friends
Speaker 9: and family who aren't super tech savvy. I'll usually start
Speaker 9: them with the built in options or with one password,
Speaker 9: kind of depending on where they're at in that spectrum.
Speaker 9: More advanced folks can use bitworden very easily, or if
Speaker 9: you just start with one password, gets super comfortable with it,
Speaker 9: don't want to pay for it anymore, you can export
Speaker 9: everything over to bitwarden and a.
Speaker 12: Couple of clicks.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was my next question. So in fact,
Speaker 1: I just went to one passwords website, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is one. It's the number one password dot com. And
Speaker 1: so I went there and it's like time for a
Speaker 1: new password manager will credit you for any remaining time
Speaker 1: on your current bill. But how easy is it to
Speaker 1: switch password manager providers?
Speaker 9: It's I would say, very easy. It's kind of just
Speaker 9: export a big spreadsheet file and then you import it
Speaker 9: into the new one. As long as you've used you know,
Speaker 9: Excel once in your life, you'll you'll understand what you
Speaker 9: need to do pretty pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Now here's my question.
Speaker 1: When you're exporting these things, isn't it just like a
Speaker 1: comma separated value, Like there's no like lock on that file.
Speaker 1: So do you recommend like deleting that immediately, like getting
Speaker 1: like shredding that file on your computer when you're done?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would, yeah, I would definitely make sure that
Speaker 9: make sure everything imported properly and then and then delete
Speaker 9: everything right and then delete the file.
Speaker 1: Okay, So and then what about people are also looking
Speaker 1: into like these physical keys. Is that even has that
Speaker 1: been a thing or passwordless? You know, we hear this
Speaker 1: whole idea of like the future being passwordless any of
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 2: In reality, I.
Speaker 9: Think that passwordless will be a reality and we'll start
Speaker 9: seeing it more over the next couple of years. Chrome
Speaker 9: on Android and on iPhones pass keys are kind of
Speaker 9: like slowly trickling out. And what those are basically a
Speaker 9: passwordless login that ties your device that you're logging in
Speaker 9: from to the account, so there's no password. It authenticates
Speaker 9: through like your phone, So if you aren't to log
Speaker 9: in from a computer, you'd actually have to tap a
Speaker 9: thing on your phone, which is great for security. It
Speaker 9: you know, there might be privacy implications with that in
Speaker 9: the future, but again it's kind of like the less
Speaker 9: the fewer people who are using reused passwords everywhere, the better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and I've noticed that Google and you know with this,
Speaker 1: uh even I don't know how they do it, but
Speaker 1: it's like the they're asking you to like tap something
Speaker 1: on a different device that you own sometimes when you
Speaker 1: log into your account, which is kind of like getting
Speaker 1: around those you know, they used to send one time
Speaker 1: passcodes to your phone and now it's like they're they're
Speaker 1: figuring out like, Okay, this might be a more secure
Speaker 1: way of doing Basically, these tech companies are learning how
Speaker 1: to protect our They're learning to protect us from ourselves
Speaker 1: because we don't even know what these what we're up against.
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Google prompts are sometimes baffling, but
Speaker 9: I do think that they are they're good at the
Speaker 9: long run. Even if you're like, you want me to
Speaker 9: tap on YouTube ware on.
Speaker 4: What what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you have a bunch of devices like
Speaker 1: I do. It's always the one device that I either
Speaker 1: don't have near me or I haven't used in a while.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you asking about that device? Like,
Speaker 1: why not the iPad that's like sitting right here next
Speaker 1: to me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Thorn Clozowski from Wirecutter Security Expert tell folks how they
Speaker 1: can find you and the stuff that you write about.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can find everything on wirecutter dot com. If
Speaker 9: you click around on any of the electronic stuff, you'll
Speaker 9: inevitably come across one of the variety of privacy and
Speaker 9: security guides that we have for helping you secure your
Speaker 9: whole life.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, So much for helping us demystify the
Speaker 1: world of password managers.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: The recommendations are one password if you want a paid option,
Speaker 1: and bitwarden if you want something that's free. Or of
Speaker 1: course you can just use the built in stuff if
Speaker 1: you want to do that and just take the easier
Speaker 1: way out of things. All right, coming up, got a
Speaker 1: couple of things before we close out the show. I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you about di iPhone Clean Energy Charging.
Speaker 1: We're going to tell you why people are up in
Speaker 1: arms about that. I'm gonna give you the feedback on
Speaker 1: last week's show. Some of the emails like plus a
Speaker 1: website that uses chat GPT to come up with travel itineraries.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. It's all coming up right here on
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. You are listening to me, Rich DeMuro.
Speaker 1: We'll be back in a bit. Welcome back to rich
Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here. So, if you're on social
Speaker 1: media at all, over the next couple of days, you
Speaker 1: might see some folks complaining about an iPhone feature called
Speaker 1: iPhone Clean Energy Charging. People are complaining that their iPhones
Speaker 1: are charging slower, and it's all due to this new
Speaker 1: feature that Apple snuck onto the iPhone.
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't sneak it in.
Speaker 1: It's a feature they talked about and it's in iOS
Speaker 1: sixteen point one and it came out in October. But
Speaker 1: people are just noticing it. But the reality is, yes,
Speaker 1: it may charge your phone a little bit differently.
Speaker 2: Is it slower? I don't know.
Speaker 1: So let me tell you what's going on here. There's
Speaker 1: a setting inside the battery settings on the iPhone that's
Speaker 1: on by default called clean Energy Charging. And what this
Speaker 1: does is it kind of recognizes the patterns of how
Speaker 1: you charge your phone, and it looks for efficiencies, and
Speaker 1: most notably, it tries to charge your phone more when
Speaker 1: clean energy sources are available.
Speaker 2: What does that mean.
Speaker 1: It means that it looks where you're charging your phone,
Speaker 1: and if it notices that clean energy you plug your
Speaker 1: phone in at eight pm and clean energy starts at nine,
Speaker 1: it will try to focus more on charging starting at nine.
Speaker 1: Now that's a very simplified way of explaining it. But
Speaker 1: the reality is a couple things. Number One, your phone
Speaker 1: is always going to charge, and this should be invisible
Speaker 1: to the end user, so you should never really notice
Speaker 1: that this is happening. Apple is only doing this when
Speaker 1: you are at your home area, like an area where
Speaker 1: you charge your phone a loss. So let me give
Speaker 1: you an example. If you plug in your phone every
Speaker 1: night at six pm and you wake up, well, let's
Speaker 1: make it later nine pm, and you wake up every
Speaker 1: day at five am. Apple knows that you charge your
Speaker 1: phone because they look at I think they tell you
Speaker 1: how many days they look at your charging activity. It
Speaker 1: learns your activities over a certain period of time. And
Speaker 1: this is all spelled out by the way on the
Speaker 1: Apple website.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Needs fourteen days to learn your charging habits, and it
Speaker 1: also needs to experience nine charges of at least five
Speaker 1: hours or more in a given location for this to engage.
Speaker 1: So it's not something that just happens the first time
Speaker 1: you plug in your phone. It's something that over time,
Speaker 1: your phone will notice your patterns and say, oh, we
Speaker 1: can save some energy or save some you know, save
Speaker 1: the environment by doing this in a little bit of
Speaker 1: a different way. Now, a lot of these articles are
Speaker 1: suggesting that you turn this feature off. I don't think
Speaker 1: you should turn this off. Apple has millions upon millions
Speaker 1: of iPhones getting charged charged every single day in the US.
Speaker 1: If they can maybe change and affect the environment in
Speaker 1: just one percent.
Speaker 2: With these phones.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing to reduce the environmental impact. So
Speaker 1: you can opt out if you want, But I think
Speaker 1: that the bottom line is you shouldn't even notice that
Speaker 1: this is happening on your phone, and Apple even spells
Speaker 1: out if you do notice that they're you. You plug
Speaker 1: in your phone and you get a notification on your
Speaker 1: lock screen that says energy clean energy charging is in
Speaker 1: effect and your charging is suspended. All you have to
Speaker 1: do is press a hold on that notification and click
Speaker 1: or tap charge now, and your phone will start charging immediately.
Speaker 1: But the reality is, if you're traveling, if you're in
Speaker 1: a hotel room, if you're anywhere else, it's not going
Speaker 1: to activate. It's only when you're at your home and
Speaker 1: you plug in basically before bed. So anyway, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of to do about that for nothing, I think,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see John and Appleton Wisconsin says your
Speaker 1: information is topical and relevant. This the feedback section, by
Speaker 1: the way, for the tech newbie, and I enjoy your
Speaker 1: choice of guests. When you mentioned an app or a website,
Speaker 1: would you mind including the spelling. So many app developers
Speaker 1: take a common word and put their own unique spin
Speaker 1: on it. It would make searching less frustrating and keep
Speaker 1: up the good work. Absolutely, that's a great idea.
Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot to mention.
Speaker 1: I want to mention this website which I will spell
Speaker 1: Roam around dot Io. This is a website that uses
Speaker 1: chat gpt to come up with itineraries for travel, and
Speaker 1: so I just typed in Portland going on March twelfth
Speaker 1: and staying for two nights, and it came up with
Speaker 1: a whole itinerary. Start your day off at the Portland
Speaker 1: Japanese Garden, then go to Powell City of Books, then
Speaker 1: go to the Saturday Market, then go to the Museum
Speaker 1: of Science and Industry, then have dinner at Lee Pete
Speaker 1: looks like Pigeon. I'm guessing is Les Pijon. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a place. Day two, go to the go to the Mansion,
Speaker 1: then Voodoo donat, than the Art Museum, than Washington Park
Speaker 1: and then I guess get out of there anyway. So
Speaker 1: cool Roam around dot Io is the website chat gpt
Speaker 1: has just single handedly changed everything about how we do
Speaker 1: stuff online. And we are just beginning to see this stuff.
Speaker 1: Folks from Roam around dot Io told me that in launch.
Speaker 1: They've seen fifty to one hundred and fifty thousand visits
Speaker 1: per day, generating two hundred thousand itineraries in one day.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna come up with some updates that let
Speaker 1: you do some fun stuff too, if you want maybe
Speaker 1: Doctor Seuss to write your itinerary, or you know, get
Speaker 1: an email itinerary. But anyway, a roam around that dot io.
Speaker 1: If you're looking to plan your summer.
Speaker 2: Travel, check it out. Kind of cool.
Speaker 1: All right, Now back to the feedback segment Chris Hoover.
Speaker 1: Chris says, in regards to the radio show question involving
Speaker 1: multiple computers with one keyboard and mouse, the Logitech MK
Speaker 1: eight fifty combo can control three computers, one with a
Speaker 1: dongle too with the keyboard keyboard layout is also set
Speaker 1: up for Mac and Windows computers. Chris says, thanks for
Speaker 1: all the info each week. And finally, I got so
Speaker 1: much feedback on the question about a camera in a
Speaker 1: remote area. I'm not gonna read through all these, but basically,
Speaker 1: a trailcam is what the caller needs. A trailcam has
Speaker 1: sensor activated recording and is solar powered as well. So
Speaker 1: this is a remote camera that does not need an
Speaker 1: internet connection to record, battery powered, waterproof, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the feedback on that. If you can
Speaker 1: believe it, that is going to do it for this
Speaker 1: episode of the show. Thanks so much for listening. Next week,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a ride in a Lucid electric car.
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