WEBVTT - 009 Rich on Tech Radio Show - March 4, 2023 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:05.440 The free ride is over for some ring users. Should 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:09.560 you click unsubscribe to that email? How to protect your 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.680 iPhone from the latest low tech hack plus your tech 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.840 questions answered? What is going on on Richdimiro? And This 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:20.119 is Rich on Tech, the show where I talk about 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:22.880 the tech stuff I think you should know about. It's 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.880 also the place where I answer your questions about technology. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.320 I'm the tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:36.680 Welcome to the show. For some reason, I am over 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.479 excited for today's show. I don't know what it is. 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.959 Maybe it's just the excitement of it being a weekend. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.080 Maybe I just have a lot to talk about today. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.240 In fact, I should stop talking right now because there's 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.360 so much to talk about in this week's show. I'm 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.199 not even sure I can get through it all. The 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:55.280 phone lines are open at triple eight Rich one oh one. 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.520 That's eight eight eight seven four to two, four to 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.320 one zero one. Give me a call if you have 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.800 a question about technology now. It was so fitting that 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:10.160 today I took a lift to the studios because what 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.759 I planned on talking about this morning is the gig 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:17.000 economy and the impact that it has had on my world, 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.160 your world, and the world at large. I went to 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:25.119 this event called Curbivore yesterday. Is happened in downtown Los 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:30.280 Angeles and it's where the uh, let's see, the commerce 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.959 moves to the curb. This was all about how things 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.960 are now delivered, you know, the ride share economy, the 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.200 door dash economy, all of these things that have sort 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.560 of changed our world. That yes, there's always been buses, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.880 there's always been taxis, there's always been pizza delivery. But 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.720 the fact that you can get anything you want delivered 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.760 to your home or a ride in any city anywhere 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.120 in the world is really profoundly changing. It all happens 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.520 from our smartphones. So this Curbivore event is really just 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.000 kind of eye opening the fact that there's entire industries 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.480 built now around this gig economy. And I talked to 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.520 this DoorDash driver, and not just DoorDash, but he kind 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:16.799 of has a YouTube channel, Pedro Santiago, and the guy 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.760 came in, I think he said from Saint Louis. He 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.000 was there for the conference, such a cool guy, and 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.600 something he said just really stuck with me. And I said, hey, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.400 you know, what do you like about this? What do 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.600 you find fun about the gig economy and you know, 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.440 looked him up on Instagram. He's got a wife and 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.520 a kid, and he loves doing this stuff. He loves 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.160 delivering for DoorDash, loves driving. And he said, you know what, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.800 it's just the freedom and flexibility of it. And that 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:49.040 really stuck with me because many people might think of 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:53.080 the gig economy as something that people do in between things. Right, 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.320 you're out of work, or you're looking for a job, 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.200 or you're trying to get started in your career. But 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.959 so many people see it on the flip side that hey, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.720 hold on, why should I work for a big company 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.239 have to answer to a whole bunch of people. I've 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.760 got a car, or Hey, I'm going to get a 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.360 car and I'm going to start my own thing. And 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.560 this is going to be maybe not a means to 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.040 an end, but an end's to a mean, like I 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.800 will do what I want to do in my life. 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.200 And what he said, and I kind of joked to him, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.000 I said, Hey, who did you have to get approval 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.400 to come out here to la for he goes, no one. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:30.680 I didn't have to submit PTO, I didn't have to 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.240 ask for the time off. I didn't have to do anything. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.200 He goes, I just decided I wanted to come and 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:38.000 I did so. He said he worked more hours last week. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.640 He worked fifty nine hours in a week. And he 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.520 made a bunch of money off of these various apps 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.320 that he works for. I think he said, DoorDash was 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.839 his big one. And this week he spends the week 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:52.480 in Los Angeles. And I said, that is amazing, just 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.960 so incredible that now we have the opportunity to do 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.160 this stuff. When I was younger, and I was, you know, 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.160 in high school, and you know, working my way up 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.400 in the world, you know, you'd have to get a 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.200 part time job somewhere. And for me, I worked at 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.760 you know, office depot, which was fitting. 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:09.960 I loved it. It was great. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.600 I worked at CPK, which was great. I was a 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:17.720 waiter and I delivered newspapers. But the reality was I 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.560 was beholden to these people. They they made my schedule. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.760 They said when you worked, when you didn't work, how 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.720 much I worked, how much I made. I remember negotiating 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.719 a fifty cent raise, and I thought that was a 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.000 big deal. But with these gig jobs, you turn on 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:32.960 your phone, you. 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:33.479 Fire it up. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.680 Next thing you know, you're working, So some of the 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.080 things I saw at this Curb of War were pretty cool. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.599 Motional this is a company that is doing semi autonomous 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.760 food deliveries and so they've got these Motional cars that 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.799 are driving around in Santa Monica and they're also partnering 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.200 with Lyft in Vegas to do, you know, semi autonomous 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.320 taxi rides. But I was asking the guy about the 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.200 food deliveries in Santa Monica. I said, do people like it? 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.520 He goes, well, it's kind of mixed. Some people get 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.279 their car and they're used to someone driving up to 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.160 their you know, or walking up to their front door 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.080 with their food, and all of a sudden, this car 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.560 pulls up to their house and it says, hey, can 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.120 you come out here and open up the back door 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.000 and pull your food out? And that's how it works 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.800 because the car is self driving. Now there is a 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:23.040 driver behind the wheel just for kind of monitoring of things. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:28.000 So that's what's happening there. Stellar Pizza this is a 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.880 pizza company started by a guy from SpaceX, former SpaceX engineer, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.279 and he's doing robotic pizza. So he drives this van 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.800 around and parks it somewhere like eventually it might drive 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:41.640 around and make pizzas while it's driving, but really they 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.680 park it outside a college campus or an event, and 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.120 inside the back of this truck is robots making pizzas, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.760 and so they had it working yesterday, just spits out 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.080 of pizza every you know, a couple of minutes. They 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.960 cut up the pizza and put it in a box 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.320 and sell it right outside the back of the truck. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.480 Or you can order it from your phone and just 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.839 have a fresh, hot pizza. And the pizza is always 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.680 hot because it's being made on site. And he said, 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.880 you know, college kids really like to eat pizza anytime 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:11.720 of the day. And he's selling these things for about 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:15.159 seven eight bucks, which is significantly cheaper than some of 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:17.760 the fresh made pizzas that you'd get other places, especially 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:24.840 delivered Sprinkles. Sprinkles Cupcakes was on hand. Candice Nelson was there. 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:30.080 She is the woman that started Sprinkles, and she was 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.760 signing her book and she was talking about and I 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.320 asked her, I said, hey, can I interview you for 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.039 KTLA and talk about Sprinkles and how technology has had 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.719 an impact. She's had Technology has been everything she goes. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.760 My whole business. She goes when the pandemic started and 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.080 we started delivering cupcakes, or what about the cupcake ATM 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.080 that lets you get a cupcake that's fresh in cities 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:51.360 across the world. 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:52.320 So all of. 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.440 These things, I mean, she turned the idea of a 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.640 cupcake into a multi million dollar business. How many people 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.400 have baked cupcakes in their house and never thought, Wow, 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:02.840 this could be a multi million dollar business, unless you're 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:06.200 Betty Crocker. But no, she said, she saw what the 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.120 potential was for this baked good that people have just 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:10.960 been making for years, and she said, I think we 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.840 could do better, and she made an entire business. Mopeads 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.160 were big the automat Now I am a little bit 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:22.280 too young to remember the original automats in New York City, 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.440 and I guess around the world, but there's a lot 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:27.400 of a lot of talk about these things. These are 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.800 the automated kind of windows that they would put food 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.640 in and you would put like a nickel in and 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.800 you'd see like a chicken pop pie in the window, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.120 and you would just open up the door and pull 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.920 out your food. And I guess these were popular in 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:42.200 like the thirties, a little bit before my time. But 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.520 now They've got this company called Automato, and this is 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.960 a temperature controlled vending machine on wheels. So the idea 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.560 is that you have a whole bunch of stuff in 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:54.480 these automated vending machine windows and you can go out 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.080 there and pull up to the beach or pull up 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.880 to an event parking lot whatever. People could see this 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.600 if they want, open up the window and pull out 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.920 what they want. And the other thing is this whole 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.640 kind of truck is powered by the sun, so it's 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.320 all electric, which is really neat. You don't have gas, 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.600 you don't have you know, fumes come out of this truck. 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:19.640 So Automato was partnering yesterday with Liquid Death. I don't 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.360 know if you've seen this brand of water, but it 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.560 looks really cool and it's just it looks like it'd 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.960 be an alcoholic beverage, but it's not. And so they 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.280 had a whole bunch of Liquid Death flavors, which by 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.320 the way, is very good. Inside these windows. You order 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.640 one from your phone, you scan the QR code and 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:36.520 then next thing you know, one of these little windows 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.800 opens up and you can purchase the Liquid Death. Now, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:41.559 yesterday they were given out for free, which is kind 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:46.720 of cool. Another one conjure. This was called robomart in 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.240 the past, and this is a van that delivers snacks 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.040 and it pulls up. You order the van to your house, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.040 kind of like an ice cream truck on demand, and 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.760 the truck pulls up to your house. There's you know, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.920 a driver in the truck, but you know they stay 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.520 in the seat, and the window and the door kind 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.000 of opens up to a whole little seven to eleven 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.800 selection of snacks. You pull out what you want. The 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.360 van uses automation to figure out what you pulled out, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.800 and it charges your credit card. So what they did 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.680 and they announced is that they partnered with Mars and 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.240 so now this is an ice cream truck that's on demand, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.559 so they drive around, you order it. You're gonna be 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.439 able to order this in Hollywood. The ice cream truck 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.840 comes to your neighborhood, comes to your house, your address 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.720 on demand. The door opens up, you pull out the 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.400 ice cream that you want, and it drives away and 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.800 it charges your card. And the best part is it's 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.120 not like a door dash delivery where this ice cream 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.960 may be semi melted. It's in the freezer in the 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.400 truck you're pulling it out of the freezer yourself, And 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.000 I said, what if someone pulls a whole bunch of 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.200 stuff out of there? He goes, well, that's how we 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.120 It's all automated. We just charged their card for however 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:54.000 much they pull out. So again, the gig economy really 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.680 just changing the way that we think about the world 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.600 and technology of course, this layer that makes it all possible. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.960 The idea of the smartphone, the idea of GPS, the 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.079 idea of all these things coming together because of technology 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.760 is just incredible to me. All Right, I've got a 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.480 great show for you today. Matt Swider of The Shortcut 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.520 is going to check in from Barcelona, Spain. That's where 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.920 Mobile World Congress happened this week, so he's going to 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.840 tell us all about the cool stuff he saw there. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.480 Tatanya Jordan of Bark is going to join me to 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.520 talk about TikTok's new sixty minute time limit for teenagers, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:32.360 and later, Wirecutter security expert is going to join me 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.000 to talk about the latest in the Last Past debacle. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.680 I don't know if you've been following this story, but 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.360 if you're using last Past, you might be thinking about 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.120 maybe switching to a different password. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:41.559 Manager. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.199 We're going to talk to them about what programs our 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.520 best to switch to. Plus your calls at triple eight 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.240 Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.040 to two four one zero one. My name is Rich Dmiro. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.360 You are listening to Rich on Tech. We'll talk tech 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.160 and take some of your calls coming up. Welcome, come 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.120 back to rich on Tech. Phone lines are open at 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.960 triple eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.400 seven four to two, four to one zero one. You 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:13.400 can find me on Instagram at rich on Tech. Let's 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.240 go to Joyce. Joyce, you're on with Rich. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.160 Hi Rich, thank you for taking my call. My question 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.680 involves AT and T. Been customer for years and years 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:29.480 have internet radio, I mean TV and phone service through them, 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:33.640 and the past several months I've received letters, one in 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:37.280 January saying you have so many days otherwise your service 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.480 could be disconnected. I have a current one now that 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:45.400 says we're retiring the network equipment that provides Internet, U vers, 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.600 TV and phone and to your location and need to 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:55.679 move your services to our new fiber optic technology. Now 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.480 it says, you know we're going to give you better service, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:02.360 faster Internet, et cetera. Now, my husband's eighty five, doesn't 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.000 use anything but TV in phone. I'm his caregiver and 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.600 I watch TV mostly. But what I'm wondering they said 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.439 that to do the fiber they might have to drill 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:20.960 through our old stucco house. And I'm just wondering. I've 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:24.760 tried to do some research on this, and it appears 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.680 that if you don't go with the new fiber, then 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.240 you're on your own if you have any issues. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.560 Yeah, everything goes through that same line at this point. 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.600 So like what you have, U Verse, which AT and 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.160 T kind of stop selling a couple of years ago, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.520 and so they've been servicing people that have it, but 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.560 they obviously are not using that anymore. That's no longer 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.120 the branding. That's no longer the technology now they've moved 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.480 and they, like they said, in your neighborhood, it's all 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:54.120 fiber now. 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:59.880 So what do you need? You said, you just need TV. 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:04.319 And fire, TV and phone Internet. I just play with. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.760 I don't know how to do emails and things like that. Okay, 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.720 so it's just a fun thing, you might say. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.040 And what are you worried about with them coming to 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:15.240 change it over? 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:20.320 Well that they said they're going to string wire over 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.440 the driveway and then attach it to the house and 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.560 then drill through the stucco into the room where my 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:33.200 husband has the router. I guess, right, right, And so 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.440 I guess that's what I'm concerned about. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:36.240 You know what. 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.520 I've had this done at my house because I actually 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.640 got this installed at my place, and I was all 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.840 for it. When the guy said, in fact, as a 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.360 tech person, the fact that they're running a fresh, new 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.120 line to your house, I am, that's exciting to me 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.840 because I know that that's going to be really good service. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.120 It's going to be great internet. It's new, it's fresh, 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.200 the line that they're stringing. It may sound scary, and 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.760 drilling through the house may sound scary, but the people 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.200 that are coming out to do this, they do this 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.560 every single day and they've seen it all. They have 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.920 the equipment to do it. Yeah, they may leave some 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.440 dust where they had the hole in the wall, and that, 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.079 you know, I probably that's going to be something you're 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.720 probably going to vacuum. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:17.080 Up when it's done. 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.680 Well, it's not a problem. I was concerned if it's 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.560 really necessary to do that, you know, to increase to 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:28.160 higher speed. I appreciate your response. It's given me such 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.440 relief because I've been on the fence about this and 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.360 I think, are they just trying to cram this into 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.680 you know, you have to have a higher rate and 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:37.360 higher do this? 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:38.000 No? 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.600 No, no, Well okay, So with that said, what is the 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.840 rate that you're paying right now? 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.360 Total is two hundred and fifty six dollars and ninety 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.440 one cents, okay, and. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.760 That includes your your TV and your phone. 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.280 Line right and your Internet is one hundred and sixty 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:58.000 seven dollars and fifty two cent Internet. There's like a 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.520 little promotion for thirty five and then phone is fifty 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:02.560 four to thirty nine. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.760 But that's yeah, that's a lot. Wow. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.840 That's a phone that we thought was a landline and 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.240 they switched it to digital and they brought in all 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.200 the other yep. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:12.960 That's pretty standard. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.920 So I don't know if the price is I hope 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.840 it goes down with this new service they AT and 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.480 T has actually said they they're no longer playing like 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.400 sort of pricing games with their with their accounts. They 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.240 may give you a promotion because you're a new technically 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.560 you're an old customer, but you're signing up fresh with 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.480 this new fiber service, so they may give you a 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:37.960 promotion that lasts a year on that, but after that 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.280 they're pretty much standardizing their rates for their service. But 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.200 I hope and I would think that it'd be cheaper 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:44.880 than two fifty six a month. I know you can 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.240 do better if you switch to a streaming TV service, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.920 and if you are switching your internet, you could just 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.680 go with an internet service and something. 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.000 Like a YouTube TV. But I don't. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.320 It doesn't sound like you guys are ready for that 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:01.200 big shift in your life. So what I would do 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.840 personally is let AT and T come to my house, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.240 let them install everything, make sure everything's set up properly. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.520 I would just let them get everything the way you 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.760 have it now, except with the new fiber, and see 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.760 what they say, and also get a quote from them 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.160 of how much that's going to cost you. So all 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.680 the installation and stuff should be free. But I would 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.440 be curious about that monthly price and really push them 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.240 on that to do something that's a little bit better 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.880 than that two fifty six a month. But personally I'm 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.000 doing it. I think that sounds scary with the line 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.560 being strong and all this stuff, but believe me. These 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:34.960 people know what they're doing. They're going to do a 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.680 great job. And you know, it's going to be a 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.360 little bit of a switchover for a week or two 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.440 while you get this thing installed and you get used 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.320 to it and all that stuff. But the reality is 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.280 it's going to be just fine and you're going to 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.000 kind of forget that it's all new. So good question, Joyce. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.160 Thanks so much for calling and being the first caller today. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.960 Do appreciate that, enjoy the new service? 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:56.760 All right? 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.400 Coming up on the show, we are going to talk 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:03.440 about this iPhone story. So Wall Street Journal did this 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.119 big story about your pastcode and the iPhone and it 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.960 just went wild. People, are you know realizing that if 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.840 someone sees you enter the passcode on your iPhone, it 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.880 could be a major problem. They could really take over 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.679 your entire life. I wasn't even aware of this. I 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.040 took for granted the fact that, you know, the past 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.400 coode is like this low tech way to break into 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.600 your phone, and clearly thieves have their eye on it. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.479 So I'm gonna talk to you about that. Speaking of that, 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.040 you know, I should just tell you this right now, Verizon, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.600 I'm just gonna tell you because we're talking about telephone companies. 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.439 Verizon's adding a new two dollars fee to some of 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.000 its older unlimited plans. C NEET confirmed. It's called a 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.360 rate plan adjustment. So if you're on one of these 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.159 old Verizon plans, and it's not even that old of 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.520 a plan, A Beyond Unlimited, a Go Unlimited, or an 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.800 older Verizon Unlimited plan, you're gonna be paying two dollars 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:58.359 extra month. You know why, no reason. Verizon just wants 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.960 to charge you that that's stake do this. They say, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.520 it's to account for the added cost of maintaining these 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.280 legacy plans. You're going to see an email or a 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.000 letter to your house telling you about this new two 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.440 dollars fee, which starts in April. Yeah, so start getting 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.080 angry right now. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Phone 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.560 lines are open at triple eight rich one oh one 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.960 eighty eight seven four to two, four to one zero 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.480 one more of your calls after this. Welcome back to 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.360 Rich on Tech. My name is rich Deburo, hanging out 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:30.320 here with you talking technology, and now we are going 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:37.080 to go to Barcelona, Spain, where Mobile World Congress happened 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.199 this week. Matt Swider is founder and editor chief of 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.680 The Shortcut, which is a newsletter that covers consumer tech 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.760 news and deals. He's known for helping people track down 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.720 all kinds of gadgets, including the PS five, and he 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.399 used to work for tech Radar as well. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:52.680 Matt, Welcome to the show. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.520 Thanks for having me on, Rich it's really great to 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.760 you know, tune in and actually be a part of 0:18:58.800 --> 0:18:59.120 the show. 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:03.119 How so was Mobile World Congress. We'll explain what it 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:03.840 is first off. 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.800 Yeah, it does confuse people because it sounds political, but 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:11.840 it is anything. But it is a tech show where 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:17.080 a lot of smartphone manufacturers gather and announce new smartphones 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.720 that you'll see over the course of a couple months. 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:24.919 There's phones, there's mobile devices, there's tablets, and there's the 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.240 coolest thing I saw, which is rollable phone. So it's 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:34.920 a step above vuldable phones. And yeah, I was really 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:40.680 enamorateed with rollable devices from Lenovo and Motorola specifically, which 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:41.720 I'm sure you saw. 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:46.200 Well, what's interesting about this whole like rollable, foldable stuff 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:49.600 is that we're seeing so many manufacturers experiment with these 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.520 different form factors. And I have no doubt that I 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.520 would like one of these in the future. But you know, 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.760 the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room is Apple, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.480 and everyone's wondering is this is this foldable or rollable 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.679 going to happen if Apple never adopts it, or do 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:05.480 you think they will? 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.040 I think they are always linked to the game purposely 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:15.840 because they wait until the technology can be perfected. And 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.879 they don't have a foldable phone yet, but you know, 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.320 everybody thinks that they're working on something and they're just 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.159 waiting for the glass to get stronger, the hinge to 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.960 get smaller, and for them to come out with some 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:32.239 new technology that kind of pushes things forward. And what 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.359 I like about Mobile Congress it is very much an 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.800 Android show and almost you know, it's a lot of 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:43.560 Chinese manufacturers, But you know, I think iPhone users should 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.639 care about what's announced because that's where you know Samsung 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.439 and Apple will be if other competitors are pushing the 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:56.120 envelope both on price and new technology. So to explain 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.960 what the rollable phone does, it actually extends the screen. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:02.159 It has a little motor in it. It pushes the 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.399 screen up so it expands at the top and just 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.400 you know, it expands before your eyes. And what's clever is 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.640 when it you know retracts, it actually rolls into the back, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:16.359 it bends into the back. And Lenovo and Motorol are 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.679 usualizing that screen for you know, taking selfies on the 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.200 back so you can actually see from the rear face 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:27.160 and camera yourself or what was really is for little 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.840 kids that has a little smiley animated smiley face on 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.879 there to kind of get them to briefly smile for 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.960 a picture. And I thought that was really cool. Do 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.480 I think it's you know, going to come out and 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:42.920 you know everybody's going to adopt it in the next year. 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:47.920 I think we're a couple of years from this becoming mainstream, 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.920 but it's definitely fun to see it in action and 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.080 kind of this is going to be the precursor to 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:55.960 what mark phones are going to become. 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.200 And I love how small it is. I'm just looking 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.760 at some pictures online. I love how small it is 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.920 when it's not rolled out, and it's just it's because 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.919 this is a thing like I you know, I've been testing. 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.000 I'm sure like you have the S twenty three Ultra 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.440 from Samsung, and I love, love, love the big screen size, 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.920 but I just can't stand the fact that the thing 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.760 does not fit in my pocket, especially with a case 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.800 on it. So I think in the future we're going 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.560 to have these phones that are a lot smaller, but 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.399 once they figure out these screens, they'll effectively be a 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:27.199 larger screen. 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:29.200 Yeah. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.720 Absolutely, And you know, everybody wants the best best of 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.080 both worlds. They want, you know, a phone that they 0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:38.560 can hold, especially walking down the street. When I'm walking 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.399 in New York City and you know, something that you 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.480 can grasp, it's so one bumps into. But at the 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.080 same time, when you sit down the subway, when you're 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.880 on an airplane, you want to carry around that tablet 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:52.040 but not have to carry around necessarily a bag with 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.040 you every time. You want to slip that into your pocket. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:59.120 So I think, you know, foldal phones going completely mainstream 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:01.639 is a little ways off, but I think it's inevitable 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:03.359 because we want the best of both worlds. 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.280 All right, let's talk about this, uh, this one plus 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.280 concept phone. So one plus I mean they really try, 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:13.480 you know, I mean they've they've really really tried to 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.119 make inroads here in the US. It's it's been tough, 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.080 but you know, they do have some partners. They've worked 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.040 with T Mobile in the past. Tell me about what 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.960 they've showed off this concept phone. 0:23:24.280 --> 0:23:27.080 Yeah, so what's interesting about this is, you know, with 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:31.520 all the foldso phones, but there's in traditional candybar style phones, 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.040 there's almost a renewed focus on design and the back 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.160 of the phone. So what once Us did is they 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.800 introduced something called the one plus eleven concept and it 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:44.800 took a lot of what we like about the one 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.360 plus eleven and they gave it lights on the back 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.040 with these halou halo lighting and it almost looks like 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:56.560 a gaming PC case and they have liquid cooling on 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.960 the back, again like a gaming PC. And you know, 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.240 so gaming pieces are over the top. They have led 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:05.160 lights everywhere. Their high performance and that's what they're trying 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.440 to mimic, and they're usually you know, that's a one 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.720 plus of a company known for coming in at a 0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:13.760 low price but still having top of the line spec. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:18.320 So I think that is what their main asset is 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.680 and it's this design, whether or not it comes out, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.440 is very over the top, like almost like you see 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.639 at car shows where there's a concept car that you 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.960 may or may not be able to buy one day, 0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.640 but it's the company pushing the envelope. Phone companies are 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:35.680 doing the same thing, and that's what Mobile Congress is 0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:36.159 all about. 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.960 It's all about capturing that attention as well. We're speaking 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.960 with Matt Swider. He is editor of the Shortcut dot com. 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:47.639 Go ahead and subscribe to his newsletter. Matt is actually 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:51.000 living the American dream. You were an editor at a 0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:53.800 big publication and you kind of found a cool little 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.399 niche of of helping people with their technology and specifically 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.480 finding hard to find products like the PS five. You 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:04.160 gained many, many, many followers enough so that you could 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.520 go out on your own and start your own newsletter, 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:09.320 and so pretty cool that you've been able to do that. 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:13.520 And Matt is in Barcelona, Spain for Mobile World Congress. 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:17.040 And tell me about the two hundred and forty watch charging. 0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.520 So I never think my phone charge is fast enough. 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.960 Tell me about this, right. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.240 So if you have ten minutes, you could have a 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.480 full battery with the real me phone. It has two 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:32.160 hundred forty watt charging, which I think it's part of 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:38.119 a greater segment at MOELL Congress where it's almost like 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:41.200 part of the emergency tech line. That's how we kind 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:42.960 of phrase it and kind of gave it an award 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:47.600 for that with the Shortcut Awards, Because if you're in 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.399 a pinch, and we've all been there where you just 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.040 need a couple extra minutes of battery life, where a 0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.240 text or you're trying to call an uber, you're just 0:25:56.240 --> 0:26:00.400 trying to get home. This can get you to a 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:05.679 full battery in under ten minutes, which is astounding, and 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.480 just getting a couple seconds of you know, a charge 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.680 will go a long way. So I think, once again, 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.040 you may or may not buy this real needs phone, 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:20.119 but you know it pushes all their manufacturers. That's right, 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.960 all right, Well we need more than twenty five watch 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:24.560 charging and by watch charging. 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.960 So this is what I think it's all about. It's 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.240 it's I mean, I hate to keep you know, harping 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.399 on the Apple effect of all this stuff, and I 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.080 get it. When you're outside the US, like in Spain, 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.159 I bet you see more people using Android than they 0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:39.080 do iPhone, you know, except for the Americans that are 0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:42.000 there for this conference, And so when you travel around 0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.840 the world you realize that, like, yes, iPhone is very 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.800 very popular in the US, and it's popular worldwide, but 0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:51.000 Android definitely has more of an impact in a greater 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:52.840 way around the world. And I think that a lot 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:55.439 of these changes and a lot of these advancements just 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:58.520 kind of force Apple's hand. They do things, like you said, 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.240 a little bit slower, a little bit later, but they've 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.320 got to get their charging faster. I mean, it's like 0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.000 the iPhone charges the slowest out of any phone I test. 0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:12.000 Yeah, and we really want to see USBC from the 0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:15.320 next iPhone, the iPhone fifteen, which you know everybody thinks 0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:17.240 is going to come in September, just like the usual 0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:21.960 cadence and USB C would be really much a benefit 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.960 of carrier on one less type of table when I travel, 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.920 And that's gonna be nice. And like you said, it's 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.320 all about the company's pushing the Apples and the Samsungs 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:37.800 into adopting technology faster at a better price. There was 0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.040 a company called Techno that has a phone, a foldable 0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:45.840 tablet size foldable phone called the Techno Phantom V and 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:50.800 it's targeting India. But it's the equivalent price for launch 0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.560 is nine hundred and seventy nine dollars. Now Samsung is 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:59.120 charging you know, eighteen hundred for their foldable phone, and 0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:02.480 you know Samsung is over the has the best spec 0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.720 compared to the film. But you know the fact that 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.920 someone is coming out with like a foldable film that 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.840 looks like a flagship phone for under one thousand dollars, 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.120 that's just going to push the competition to do better. 0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:18.480 And I really kind of almost appreciate that, even though 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.600 you know, we may not see those phones on the 0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:21.840 streets of the US. 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:23.760 All right, Matt, was it fun this year? 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.560 I've got about a minute here to say goodbye, But 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:28.119 did you have fun this year? And it was it 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.280 different to be on your own this year than working 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.200 for sort of like an editor in years past. 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.560 Yeah, it was a bunch of fun because it felt like, 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.920 you know, the whole conferences we go to are back 0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.880 like CES was this year in January. We have you know, 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.280 Mobile Congress in late February. It was nice to kind 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.200 of get back to that routine. And also, you know, 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:54.040 I'm handling all the awards stuff. We gave out a 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.240 bunch of awards, so I'm handling the design of the award, 0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:58.800 getting it in, shipping it, bring it with me in 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.440 my suitcase. So that is a lot of fun to 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.920 kind of be have a bunch of hats and be 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.800 the death of world trade and hire a bunch of 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:09.800 friends to make that happen. 0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:10.640 So that's kind of cool. 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.040 And I will say in your latest newsletter at the 0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:15.080 shortcut dot com, I was very impressed that you were 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.320 able to get a picture with all of the award 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.480 winners that you gave out, which is no easy feat 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.240 because sometimes these companies can be tough to track down. 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:26.120 So congrats and thanks and have fun. I assume you're 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:27.720 going to spend the rest of the weekend in Barcelona. 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.560 Absolutely, I'm in like a little highland off of Spain. 0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.680 But Rich, I always appreciate the support that you've given 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.560 me over the year, so thank you for having me 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.000 on and the continued support. 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.040 All Right, Matt Swider, thanks so much for joining me. 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:42.040 Check it out. 0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.680 The shortcut dot Com is the newsletter. More of your 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:48.840 phone calls at triple eight rich one O one eight 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.360 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one 0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.120 plus we'll talk about the iPhone how to protect your 0:29:56.160 --> 0:30:00.280 passcode from a low tech hack. You're listening to rich 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.120 on tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:08.160 is rich Demiro. We are talking technology and taking your 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.880 phone calls. You can find me on the web at 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:17.720 richon tech dot TV. Mike is in Denver. Mike, you 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:19.320 are on with Rich. What's up? 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:20.400 Hi? 0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:20.760 Rich? 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.200 It's so good to talk to you. This is my 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.880 first time calling into your show. I used to call 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.800 into Leo's show. But I just want to tell you 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.040 thank you for the job you've been doing. You bring 0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:35.480 a lot to the show. You're very articulate, you're very thoughtful, 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:38.280 you talk about things analytically, and it's just a pleasure 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:39.520 to listen to you. So thank you. 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.800 Wow, keep going. I love it well. 0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.120 I was actually going to ask you. I know you 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.280 started out in TV. Was radio ever something you were 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:48.080 interested in? 0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:48.400 Oh? 0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.440 Always? I loved Ray. 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.760 I grew up out outside New York City with the 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.719 flagship Z one hundred station, which you know, I know 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:59.920 that that's not necessarily talk radio, but they had Morning Zoo, 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.400 and I just loved, you know, these big booming voices 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.520 and these people with these amazing names, right like mister 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.840 Leonard and Professor Jonathan B. 0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:09.240 Bell. 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.400 I mean, it just really had an impact. Elvis Duran, 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.520 I mean, oh my gosh, just so amazing, and so 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.719 I you know, I just loved it. And radio reaches 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.160 people in a way that. You know, TV is very unique, 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.760 but radio is also very very unique, and so I've 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.520 had a love for both. It's always been a dream 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.160 to do radio, and I took me many, many years 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.240 to figure out how to do both. But here I am, 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.080 and so I've got the best of both worlds. 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.720 Mike, Yeah, absolutely. Well, before I get to my question, 0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.000 I got to tell you, you know, I'm twenty six 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:44.040 years old and for some reason, I always connected more 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.520 to talk radio growing up. You know, most kids it 0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:50.440 was television or video games. Was for some reason with me, 0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:54.080 it was always talk radio. So I had the great 0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.840 pleasure to call in with Leo Laporte several times in 0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.160 George Nori over the years. And I love red you. 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.720 But so my question for you, I've been thinking about 0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.120 trying to learn a new language. I've been looking at, 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:10.840 you know, like a number of different apps. Dual Lingo 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.720 is one of the apps specifically I've been looking at. 0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:17.480 And I actually spoke with Kim, your producer call Screener, 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.600 and she said it was a really good app. And 0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.120 I was wondering if you had any recommendations on apps 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.200 to help teach new languages. 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.720 Great question, what language are you trying to. 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.760 Learn I'm trying to learn Spanish. 0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:32.160 Okay, well that's that's an I mean I would say 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.200 that's an. I mean it's an easy one because they 0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.040 all probably offer this, but I'm not I've tried learning 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.680 Spanish many, many years and just for some reason, and 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:45.440 I'm convinced some people's brains are just wired differently where 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.600 and mine is one of them where I just can't 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.000 figure it out. Like I took Spanish for so many 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.680 years and I can't say anything in Spanish so sadly. 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.320 In fact, dual Lingo is one of the apps that 0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:00.640 I tried to use to learn Spanish, and and I'm 0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.880 not kidding, dual Lingo started getting angry with me the 0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.719 notifications that this app started sending to me. I was like, 0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:09.040 is there a person behind this app? Because they were 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.000 just mean. It was like, Okay, we see that you 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.480 really don't care about this. We're just gonna stop sending these. 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.840 I was like, wow, okay. With that said, if you 0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.880 are trying to learn Spanish, many many apps can do this. 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:25.560 I really have the most experience with dual Lingo, but 0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.800 I think there's many apps out there that can also 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.520 teach you a language, and I think what it really 0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:31.800 comes down to is kind of comparing some of these 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.320 apps and seeing which one works best for you. So 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:41.200 there is an app that's called Memorize m Rise, and 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.400 I'm looking to see if they offer Spanish, and sure 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.560 enough they do. They offer Spanish, Mexico and Spain, so 0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.840 I guess you get the two different dialects. And this 0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:54.600 one is, you know, it's very similar to the way 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.440 that dual Lingo works, but this one looks like it's 0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:03.440 much more video example based, so it uses video examples 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.880 of language used in real life. And so each one 0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:11.400 of these little lessons incorporates videos, and it's like a like, 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:12.960 I'm looking at the demo here and it says do 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.560 you have Wi Fi? And the person will say it, 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.279 and then it kind of breaks down how to say that. 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.840 That's a very important thing to know as you travel. 0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:23.600 So that's Memorized Memorize dot com. Then there's an app 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:27.640 called Lingo deer l I n g O d E 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.799 E R. And it's just so interesting how all these 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.880 apps come up with these funny different names. This was 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.000 a Google Play Editor's Choice of twenty nineteen. An available 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:42.880 both on iOS and Android and Lingo Deer is not 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.279 sure if they are going to offer the language you need, 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:50.040 though this looks like it's Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin, and 0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:53.640 so let's see do oh they do have Spanish on here. Okay, 0:34:53.640 --> 0:34:55.960 you can learn Spanish, and this one will go through 0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.640 the basics alphabet, food and drink, questions, plural numbers, greetings, 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.600 and it looks like it's kind of gamified, and so 0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:06.040 this will lead you along learning Spanish sort of through 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:09.200 a game. And that one is again called Lingo Dear. 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.040 Then we've got an app called Hello Talk, and Hello 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.400 Talk is different. I think I actually did a segment 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.480 on this with Ktla. This is an app that links 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.160 you up with a native speaker. And so this is 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.880 kind of cool because you are actually chatting with someone 0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:27.000 that speaks that language somewhere in the world and they've 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.880 got one hundred and fifty languages thirty million people to 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.320 chat with. And again, I think this one is probably 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:36.680 going to cost some money because you are almost with 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.480 a you know, a native speaker that is, you know, 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.839 taking time out of their day to actually chat with 0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.840 you and help you understand this. But that's kind of 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.600 a cool way of doing it. It's again called hellotalk 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.759 dot com, a little bit of a different approach than 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:51.799 something like duolingo. 0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:53.680 And then the two other. 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.840 Ones that you've probably heard of, which are very similar 0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.480 in scope to dual Lingo Rosetta Stone. I mean, I 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:04.759 remember Rosetta being in the kiosk at the mall growing up. 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.000 I mean, so this has been around forever. In fact, 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.080 here's what it says, for nearly thirty years, learners have 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.480 turned to Rosetta Stone to build their fluency. And so 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:18.520 Rosetta Stone is more about audio. And so I've never 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:22.320 taken these courses, but these are I believe, audio courses 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.560 that can really help you learn the language. And again 0:36:24.600 --> 0:36:26.840 that's going to be a paid thing. They may have 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.440 a free version, but I think that it's mostly paid 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.440 at this point. And they do support at a lot 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.160 of languages. And finally, I think probably the one that's 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:37.759 going to be the most closest to duo Lingo is 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.799 babbel be a bb el dot com and they do 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.000 have Spanish. And again this is going to be more 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:48.920 of a subscription based but it's got app based lessons 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.000 and it's ten minutes a day. That's what they say 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.279 and you know what, Mike, I think you've inspired me 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.320 to really try to learn a different language. The problem 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:00.920 is I sign up for these, I get them on 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:05.000 my phone, and then what do I do? I surf Instagram, 0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:09.239 I surf YouTube shorts, I go on my Twitter, I 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.920 go on my Facebook and anything besides learning the language. 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.879 I need to put my time into myself sometimes. So 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.560 I'm gonna learn a new language along with you. Hopefully 0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:23.160 those apps helped. Good question enjoy Spanish? All right, coming up, 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.320 we're gonna talk about the low tech iPhone hack for 0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.800 your past coode and more of your calls. At Triple 0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.439 eight rich one on one. You are listening to rich 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.960 DeMuro here on rich On tech Man. Where is the 0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.480 time going? First hour of the show already in the 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.759 can Now we're into hour number two. I feel like 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.920 someone has just taken my time and just like spun 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.000 it fast. Like it's just like like someone advanced it. 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:52.120 I don't know what's happening anyway, Thanks for listening to 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:53.839 the show. If you want to give me a call, 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:57.319 it's triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.560 eight seven four to two four to one zero zero one. 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:03.960 A couple things. First off, got a lot of feedback 0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:07.400 from last week's show, So people listen to the show. 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.759 Maybe on the podcast you can search Rich on tech 0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.640 to find that to listen later. But people listen to that, 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.279 and then they email me and they say, Hey, Rich, 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.200 I have an answer, like an additional answer for a 0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:19.160 question that you got. And so I got a whole 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.160 bunch of those from last week, So I'll talk about that. 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.520 What else, Oh, I just got a whole bunch of 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.839 people saying, Rich, which CPK did you work at? So 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.839 I didn't realize that out of all my gig economy talk, 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.600 the CBK people just want to know I worked at 0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.480 the one in Santa Monica. And in fact, the reason 0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.719 why I tried to get a job at CBK is 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.640 because I and this probably goes to show my character, 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:44.960 I was like, it's the easiest job you can do. 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.840 I mean, you're you're literally serving pizzas. What could be easier? 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:48.120 Right? 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:53.440 Well, little did I know the training process at CBK 0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:57.080 was so intense. It went from like three hundred people 0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.160 to one hundred people to like the opening crew of 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:02.319 like fifty of us or whatever it was, And it 0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.520 was like eight weeks of training, and you had to 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.600 know that menu inside and out. You had to try 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.160 every single food, every single pizza, which I loved and 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.120 I learned so much in that, not just about customer service, 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.439 but opening up a restaurant. We open up a brand 0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.480 new location and it was I mean, I think even 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.560 the founders were there. I mean, it was just such 0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.759 a great experience and something that really has stuck with 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.920 me for not just that part of my life, but 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.000 in almost so many aspects of what I expect when 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.200 I go to restaurants and how I deal with waiters 0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.080 and service industry folks, and so anyway, it was a 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:40.120 really really great experience. So maybe in your history you 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.960 had Rich on tech Serview at CBK and Santa Monica. 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:46.640 Let's go to Joe in Indianapolis, Indiana. Joe, you're on 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:51.200 with Rich. Hey Rich, I am doing great, Joe, what's 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.280 up good? 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:55.720 I had a question. I know you have two kids 0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:00.920 at home, and I think I've live them two or 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:05.759 three radio shows ago. You said talking about your youngest 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.880 eight year old hacking in your YouTube. Oh yeah, and 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:13.600 I think you had some sort of internet filter, as 0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.080 I remember you saying. 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:16.839 So what one do use? 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:20.920 That's basically my question, what internet filters do you recommend 0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:21.919 for kids? 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.560 Good question, Joe. I have a question for you, though, 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:25.160 how old are you? 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.600 I'm actually ten. You're show I love technology. 0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:31.080 Wow. 0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:35.200 Okay, Now do your parents allow you to have free 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:36.920 reign on the web or what are you going to 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:39.080 put these filters in on your and yourself or what 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.560 are you trying to stay a step ahead of your parents? 0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.439 I'm pretty ahead of my parents. 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.600 To be honest. Yeah, I think I think most kids are, 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.520 including mine, in some ways. And I'll tell you, Joe, 0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:55.600 a couple things. So number one, I'm a little bit 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.960 older than you, and so I know that a lot 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.120 of these filters and things are there for your own good, 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:06.080 because some kids can't control themselves when it comes to 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.319 the amount of time they spend online. And I have 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:12.359 two different kids. One kid is very much you know, 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:16.520 he's fine. He goes online, he does his thing, He 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.600 kind of stays within the guardrails, and everything's good. When 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:22.080 you tell him, hey, it's time to stop playing or 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.399 stop doing this, it's fine. I've got another kid who 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.799 is just a little bit different in that aspect, and 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:32.279 he likes to push me to the limits and so 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.040 he likes to push the limits also about what he 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.160 can do on there. So today, for instance, he found 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.160 YouTube back on our main TV because my wife and 0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.720 I were watching some travel videos. We're researching trips, and 0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:45.520 you know, we had to put YouTube back on there. 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.840 And of course he finds it in about two seconds, 0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:49.200 even though I put it all the way down at 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.040 the bottom of the list of apps on our Apple DV. 0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.320 He scrolls down and finds it and he starts watching. 0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:58.319 And then he was watching YouTube last night and he said, 0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:02.320 he said, hey, I noticed that YouTube now has a 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:06.120 kids version on the app on smart TVs, and so 0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:07.920 I said, that's great because now you can log in 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.200 with your account and watch YouTube. He said, well, Dad, 0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.440 I don't want to because they don't do shorts on 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.200 YouTube kids. And I said, yes, there's a reason why 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:17.760 they don't do YouTube shorts on kids because YouTube shorts 0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.040 shouldn't be watched by kids. There's so much stuff on 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.680 there that's just not very appropriate, and so I think 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.640 it's tougher for them to kind of filter through those 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.279 things on YouTube shorts for kids, which is why the 0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:31.200 YouTube Kids app doesn't offer that. Anyway, Joe, I tell 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.279 you all this stuff because first off, I want you 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.759 to stay tuned, which I know you will. We've got 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.280 a guest coming up at around half of the hour 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:43.040 and she's going to talk about Internet filtering with a 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.879 system called Bark, and that's one of them I've been 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.920 testing out, but I think there's three main ones that 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:51.080 I like. Bark is one of them, and this is 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.680 a service that can filter not only smartphones, but also 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.480 set time limits and filters on your home Internet. There's 0:42:56.520 --> 0:43:01.360 also one called Circle cr CLEE and Circle was actually 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:05.160 started with Disney, and it was Circle with Disney and 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.120 then they kind of branched off did their own thing. 0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.520 And so Circle is a physical kind of device you 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.640 can connect to your router and it will filter everything 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:18.080 on the network as well. And also there's just screen 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.920 time limits and also Android has their parntal controls. I 0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:25.279 think it's called Family Time and or Family Link, and 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.600 so you can do that as well. Now I use 0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:30.200 a combination of these things because I test a lot 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.080 of stuff out in my home. So I've tried out Bark, 0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:37.120 I have tried out Circle, I use screen Time, and 0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.080 I also use the Family Link and also Microsoft has 0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.879 their own if you use Microsoft devices, they have their 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.640 own prontal controls as well. And as you might imagine, Joe, 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.879 my kids do not like me testing all of these 0:43:50.920 --> 0:43:52.759 things because they don't like any of them. And I 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.120 get it, and I think that sometimes this stuff is 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:59.840 so complicated to set up and keep running that parents 0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:02.279 just give up and they let their kids have free rein. 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.839 And you know, if your kid is like my older kid, 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.279 and they're okay with hey, it's time to be done 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.120 with the iPad and you know, watch a movie or 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:12.480 whatever or read a book, that's fine. But when you 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.400 have kids like my other kid, who is a little 0:44:14.440 --> 0:44:16.640 bit more kind of like I want to be on 0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.200 this all day every day, it's tougher. And so sometimes 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.440 we have to, you know, do things to protect these 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.560 kids from themselves. And I think, Titanya, we'll talk about 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.560 that coming up a little bit later in the show. 0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.600 But Joe, I think you sound like a pretty good kid. 0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:33.000 So I think that you're gonna help your parents set 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.320 these internet filters for yourself or just provide your own guardrails. 0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:37.680 Is that true? 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:38.160 Yeah? 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:40.719 I probably actually will help them set it up. 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:43.920 Probably will show your parents if you can figure out 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.040 screen time, help your parents with that one, because that's 0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:49.120 that's the one I think if you have iOS devices, 0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:51.319 is probably a good starter, right, all right, thanks for 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.600 listening in Indianapolis, Joe, I appreciate. 0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.279 It, sure, all right, thanks, all. 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.839 Right, take care. Joe is going to be a successful kid. 0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:01.640 I can tell because if he's thinking about screen time 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.120 and internet filtering at his age, that's a smart thing. 0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:08.000 He's probably just trying to evade his parents, which is 0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.520 probably what I would have done as a kid. 0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:14.080 So that's all good, all right. 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.200 Speaking of the iPhone, So Wall Street Journal had this 0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.640 big kind of expose on the fact that thieves are 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.400 actually looking to watch how you type in your passcode 0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:28.200 on your phone, and then they steal your phone, type 0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:31.440 in your passcode and they can immediately do a password 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.120 reset on your Apple account and steal all your information. 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.440 They send money from like Venmo to themselves and all 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.440 this stuff. So check out the article Wall Street Journal. 0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.960 Just google how to protect your iPhone from thieves. But 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.279 I posted about this on my Instagram because I was 0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.560 really floored about this too. I didn't realize that they 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.759 could do so much damage with a passcode. So Instagram 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:54.320 at rich on Tech made this little infographic and okay, 0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.960 so once they unlock your phone, they immediately try to 0:45:57.000 --> 0:45:59.640 transfer money from apps like Venmo or cash app or 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:03.760 your bank to their themselves, or they can go into 0:46:03.800 --> 0:46:06.799 your account settings and reset your Apple password and lock 0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:08.520 you out of all your devices, which I was not 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:11.800 aware of. All you need to have is an unlocked iPhone. 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.319 So if you really want it to be cruel to 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.960 your friends, you could just grab their unlocked iPhone and 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.759 literally ruin their lives. Don't do that, Please use your 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:23.000 knowledge for good. First thing you gotta do, put a 0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.319 strong passcode on your phone, preferably six digits. If you 0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.400 really want to be wild, go for an alpha numeric code, 0:46:29.440 --> 0:46:31.880 which I don't know if I'm ready to do that 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:33.560 just yet, because sometimes you do have to type in 0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.200 that code, and we all know how much we hate passwords. 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.040 If you have to sit there and type in alpha 0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:40.000 numerica on your phone every time you want to unlock 0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:44.279 when face id's not working, o autolock set it to 0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:47.640 thirty seconds. I've seen so many people that I know, 0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:49.719 they use their phone and then they just put it 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.200 back in their purse or their pocket or their backpack 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:53.240 with it unlocked. 0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:54.160 Do not do that. 0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.080 Lock your phone, press that side button to lock it up, 0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.960 or set that autolock to thirty seconds. Don't set it 0:47:00.200 --> 0:47:02.160 for never or fifteen minutes or ten minutes. It is 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.400 way too long. Someone can pick up your phone and 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:08.840 they can start using it. Definitely set an additional unlock 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.200 passcode on any financial app that will support it, whether 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:15.160 that's Venmo, cash app, PayPal, your bank account. I never 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:16.840 did this in the past because I didn't really understand 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:18.080 why they would have that. I was like, why does 0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:20.600 my bank need an extra passcode? Now I know why 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:22.799 someone gets a hold of your phone it's unlocked. At 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:26.640 least these apps ask for a secondary password. And finally, 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.920 consider a password manager that doesn't rely on face ID 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.480 and uses a separate passcode unlocked. So if you're using 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:38.520 the built in password manager on iOS, the keychain iCloud keychain, 0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:41.080 once they unlock your phone, they can go right into 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.040 that and unlock it with your passcode, so that means 0:47:44.040 --> 0:47:46.200 all of your passwords are now at risk. Now, if 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:48.839 you really want to lock down your phone, you can 0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.520 set up screen time on your own account, not just 0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:54.680 your kids. Use a different pin and then go to 0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:57.279 the settings in screen Time, and there's a section called 0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.839 account changes if you choose don't allow, so if someone 0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:03.960 gets into your phone, if they get there, they will 0:48:03.960 --> 0:48:07.360 not be able to change your Apple ID password. So 0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.959 if you really want to protect yourself, set upscreen time 0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.520 and then do not allow changes under your account. Again, 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.080 I've got the step by step instructions on my Instagram. 0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.400 Find me at rich on Tech. And by the way, 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.840 if you want to know a little bit about into 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:25.480 my world, I discovered Canva again recently, and so if 0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:29.160 you look at my Instagram, you can definitely tell that 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.839 I've been having a blast on Canva because all of 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.319 my posts lately are created on Canva. And it's not 0:48:35.360 --> 0:48:37.840 like I didn't know about Canva. Canva is sort of 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:39.560 like print Shop from when I was a kid, but 0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:43.080 now it's this super easy to use design studio that 0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.680 lets you make anything from Instagram posts to YouTube thumbnails, 0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:51.359 to business cards to videos. But it's so easy and 0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:53.480 it's so much fun. I've been spending all of my 0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.840 free time making these little tutorials on my Instagram. So 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.839 rich on Tech is my Instagram Canva. Check it out 0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:02.360 if you do anything with design, and I think they 0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.200 even give out free accounts to like teachers and stuff. 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:05.560 You can. 0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:07.920 I mean, anyone can use it for free, but the 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.200 premium is what I've been paying for because I just 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:13.680 find it so fascinating. But you know, if you're a 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.560 teacher and educator, I think they give that to you 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:18.319 for free, so definitely take advantage of it because I 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.000 am just loving, loving Canva. All right, you got to 0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:24.520 call you got a phone question for me? Give me 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:26.960 a call triple eight rich one oh one eight eight 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.760 eight seven four to two, four to one zero one. 0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.040 Later in the show, we're going to talk to someone 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:37.000 from Bark Parental Controls about these new TikTok screen time limits. 0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:39.040 They're going to set a sixty minute time limit for 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.880 any user under eighteen. We'll see what that's all about. Plus, uh, 0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:49.400 Microsoft is letting you link your iPhone to Windows. That's interesting, 0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:51.239 but I'll tell you about some of the limitations to that. 0:49:52.000 --> 0:49:55.880 You are listening to me Rich Demiro here KTLA Channel 0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.279 five Tech reporter on rich on Tech. More of your 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:03.160 calls after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My 0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:06.480 name is Rich DeMuro, talking technology, hanging out with you, 0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.320 taking your emails to a lot of you emailing me today. 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.200 Morris says they tried or thank you for the story 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.920 on Sudshare, the laundry service app I signed up for 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:20.800 the first time. They picked up as requested, brought back today. 0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:24.200 It was all neat and tidy. The sudster was delightful 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.520 and friendly and the price was reasonable. As a senior, 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.880 it is wonderful to have this service. Thank you, sincerely, Moira. 0:50:32.000 --> 0:50:33.319 So cool. I love this. 0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:38.400 We talked about this sudster service last week where basically 0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.640 someone will come to your house, pick up your laundry, 0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.200 wash it at their house, fold it and return it 0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.200 to you. And yeah, a little controversial, right, A lot 0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.879 of people were saying, I'm not trusting people to you know, 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:54.600 wash my what's a nice word for your you know 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:57.799 the delegates, you know what I mean? Yeah, the the 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:02.680 under rus let's so, I mean, I get it. But 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:05.520 at the same time, again talking about the gig economy, 0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.960 there is something for everyone and whether you want to 0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:11.040 make money doing someone else's laundry all you need is 0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:16.080 laundry room or like Moira that you know, no big deal, 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:17.160 got the laundry done. 0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:19.080 So anyway, very cool, happy to help. 0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.880 Let's talk about Microsoft Big big update to Windows eleven, 0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:26.400 a lot of new features. I'll just go over a 0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:30.960 couple of them. Bing Ai integrated into Windows taskbars. You 0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.880 might notice a new bing logo on your Windows taskbar. 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.920 That's because the new bing Ai is built in, so 0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.399 that's kind of cool. I don't know if everyone has 0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:42.680 that immediately, but it will be coming to your PC. 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:43.800 Windows. 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.759 Microsoft is really trying to make good on their investment 0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:51.320 in chat open Ai, which is the company behind chat GPT. 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:56.120 They are building this into everything that they make. Phone 0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:58.799 Link this is an app that has been around for 0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:01.160 Android users for a long time which allows you to 0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.800 kind of sync up your Android phone with your Windows computer, 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.319 make phone calls, receive phone calls, send and receive texts. Well, 0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:11.080 now they're taking it a step further and now they've 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.560 got phone Link for iOS. So now you can link 0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.920 up your iPhone to a Windows eleven PC and you 0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.279 can get your phone calls, you can make calls, and 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:23.120 you also get some of your texts. Now I say 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.920 some of your texts, because yes, you can send and 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:30.600 receive texts, but it's a little bit limited, so you 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:34.040 cannot do your group texts, you can't send photos and 0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.040 there's no history, so only the texts that you have 0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:40.960 sent and received through the new phone Link app will 0:52:41.000 --> 0:52:42.400 show up there. It's not going to be all of 0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.200 your texts from forever. But another thing that's kind of 0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:49.920 cool is Windows now finally has a proper screen recording 0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.040 tool built in. There's been many screen recorders you could 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:55.759 have gotten third party, but now the Snipping tool, you 0:52:55.800 --> 0:52:58.399 know the one that lets you take screenshots, that will 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:01.600 let you record video of your screen. So this is 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.880 going to be a big deal for teachers and anyone 0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.200 else that uses screen recordings as a way to kind 0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:09.640 of teach people or show people what they're doing on 0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.600 their screen. There's even a new keyboard shortcut, Windows key 0:53:13.719 --> 0:53:18.120 plus shift key plus s will trigger a screen recording 0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:19.759 in the Snipping tool. Now, this is not going to 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.440 happen automatically. You do need to get the Windows eleven update, 0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:25.279 So if you want that right now, you can go 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:27.680 to Windows Update and you can check for updates. 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:29.840 But otherwise, most folks will. 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:32.920 Get this rolled out to their computer sometime this month, 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:36.239 in March twenty twenty three. All right, let's go to 0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.640 Paul in Columbus, Ohio, one of my favorite Cities. Paul, 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.319 you're on with Rich what's up? 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:45.160 Hey guy. Good to hear you, and a good show 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:48.279 so far. I've been listening to for you for the 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:49.800 look weeks. 0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:51.600 The other day I was. 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:54.640 With the on a group call with some their friends 0:53:54.840 --> 0:54:00.319 and somebody brought up this thing called pro theory and 0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.719 I tried to look it up. They were drilled with it. 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.600 I looked it up and found videos on YouTube about it. 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.960 Just came out in January apparently, and it really kind 0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.720 of it's connected with the chat GVT. 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:14.080 I guess it is. 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:19.280 And it likes if you you set up a trigger 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:23.080 phrase for Siri instead of just saying hey Siri, you 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.920 say what's up or whatever you want to say, and 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:30.200 then it goes to that Siri, And like if you say, 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:35.560 give me a recipe for a spaghetti sauce instead of 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.359 like they do now will they give you like three 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:42.799 choices of web pages, this one will actually just give 0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:46.080 you a recipe. A couple other ones too, more sophisticated, 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.440 but that's gone the basic idea. Much more sophisticated than 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:53.080 a regular SERI search. My question was, have you heard 0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:56.440 about it and would be just want to make sure 0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:57.000 it's safe. 0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:00.719 Okay, good question. Good, good question, because this chat has 0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:04.760 taken the world by storm. Now this is really using 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:08.319 a series shortcut. It is legitimate. You can do it, 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.120 but quite honestly, what I'd recommend doing, and what I 0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:14.160 have on my phone is BING the mobile app. Just 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.520 go to bing dot com slash new and I feel 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:19.920 like it's going to be a very useful thing. I 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.279 am on it all day long now because I've got 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:27.200 They just added Bing is using chat GPT technology into 0:55:27.239 --> 0:55:29.759 their own search engine. It's a little more polished than 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.920 what you're talking about. If you want to set up 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:35.080 the series shortcut to use chat GPT, go ahead, But 0:55:35.120 --> 0:55:37.280 I would not pay for it. And if you're listening 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:39.960 and you're trying to think about downloading a chat GPT 0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.120 app to your phone, do not do it. 0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:43.640 They are all bogus. 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:47.400 Do not pay for that right now, All right, coming up, 0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:50.759 we are going to talk to t Tanya Jordan from 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:56.680 Bark Technologies about privacy and filtering for your teenagers online. 0:55:56.840 --> 0:56:00.200 You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to you, 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:03.200 rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, hanging out 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:07.560 talking technology with you. By the way, you can find 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.360 me online if this is the first time you're hearing 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:12.919 me rich on tech dot tv. There you can find 0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:15.520 my website. I put the links to everything that I 0:56:15.680 --> 0:56:21.880 do in this world, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, the podcast, the 0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:26.680 stuff I recommend on Amazon, my email, my email newsletter, 0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:29.719 all the stories I do for KTLA. I mean, it's 0:56:29.760 --> 0:56:32.760 a lot. It's a lot of stuff on there. Rich 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:36.400 On tech dot tv is the website. So if you 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:38.480 want to check out some of the things I'm up to, 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:39.120 go ahead. 0:56:39.640 --> 0:56:41.160 That's where it is, all right. 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:46.400 Titanya Jordan is the uh Bark Technology's Chief parenting Officer. 0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:50.799 Bark is an online safety company. I've been testing out 0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.400 some of their filtering technology recently. They have a new 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:58.200 partnership with the router Villo, and so this is a 0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.960 company I recommend a lot if parents want to filter 0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:02.959 stuff on the Internet for their kids. 0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:04.279 Tatanya, welcome to the show. 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.080 Thank you so much for having me. 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.920 So just quickly give me an idea of what Bark 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:12.520 is capable of doing. 0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:18.840 Sure, so, what Bark does is help protect over six 0:57:18.880 --> 0:57:22.280 and a half million children across the globe using a 0:57:22.360 --> 0:57:28.080 variety of tech. Most notably, we're using artificial intelligence to 0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:33.400 connect to children's devices, accounts, social media, text email, then 0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:37.880 analyze it, and then alert parents and caregivers to dangers 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:41.960 that lie hidden deep within their digital signal. We also 0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:45.840 offer screen time and filtering solutions like a lot of 0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.120 other options that are out there. And then finally, we 0:57:49.200 --> 0:57:53.560 recently launched a smartphone because everybody was giving their kids 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:57.000 smartphones that were not safe for kids. So that's what 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:57.360 we do. 0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:00.480 Well, okay, so let's talk about that because the you know, 0:58:00.920 --> 0:58:03.400 let's be honest, a lot of kids want iPhones. There 0:58:03.440 --> 0:58:06.840 are some limitations on what you're able to do even 0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:09.840 as a tech company, Like you can't physically go through 0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:13.080 everything in real time on a phone as many parents 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:17.320 might want. Right, So can you just explain that real quick? Sure? 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:21.800 Yeah, you know, yes, iPhones are what everybody wants in 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:24.800 the US. It's interesting outside of the US, androids are preferred, 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:25.760 but here we are. 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:27.280 Yeah, I digress. 0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.480 So blue bubble, it's all about the blue bubble. I know, 0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:32.720 I know, believe me, We've talked about it. 0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:38.320 But you know, Apple does not make it easy for 0:58:38.960 --> 0:58:43.880 parents to keep their kids safer on their devices. Yes, 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:49.960 they have family sharing opportunities, but kids circumvent them with 0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:54.720 every new iOS software update comes new capabilities that are 0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:59.480 great for adults, but come new loopholes that children circumvent 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.760 to get more screen time, to bypass filters, to talk 0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.000 to strangers, to send nudes, et cetera. 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:08.400 Yeah, and so it's again, so if parents think that 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:10.480 they can, like, in real time, if their kids says 0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:13.120 a certain word and they get an alert on their email, 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:15.320 is that possible with Android? 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.480 It's I'm not going to say it's real time, just 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:24.560 just to cover my rear. Yeah, but it's pretty darn close, Okay. 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.600 I would say it's as technologically possible as close to 0:59:28.640 --> 0:59:29.240 being real time. 0:59:29.360 --> 0:59:30.479 Yes, okay, very cool. 0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:32.880 All right, So let's talk about the big news this 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:38.840 week is that TikTok, every Parent's dream app, is setting 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:43.280 a sixty minute automatic daily screen time limit for users 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:47.680 under eighteen. Now this sounds like, wow, what an amazing company. 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:51.200 They are so kind to our world for doing this. 0:59:51.720 --> 0:59:52.400 Is that right? 0:59:52.560 --> 0:59:52.760 Yeh? 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.120 I'm sorry that I'm not sorry that I'm laughing because 0:59:57.200 --> 0:59:58.840 it's truly a joke. 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:00.320 You know. 1:00:00.840 --> 1:00:06.720 First of all, TikTok launched their version of printal Controls, 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:12.160 which are truly just laughable because they give children that 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.960 have these printal controls implemented within their TikTok interface, the 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.360 ability to unlink from the parent account. Why do you 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:22.720 give parents the illusion that they can keep their kids 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.120 safer on your platform when you're giving the kid the 1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.760 ability to just disconnect it so and promblem one. 1:00:27.920 --> 1:00:30.520 And let's be honest, how many parents are actually setting 1:00:30.600 --> 1:00:33.840 up this link in the first place. It's probably not many. 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:37.480 It's certainly buried. I mean, I'm a mom, I'm on TikTok. 1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:40.520 They have never shared the fact that they have these 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:43.120 printal controls with me, and they could do that easily 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:45.000 through the notification, right exactly. 1:00:45.040 --> 1:00:48.480 Okay, so this new sixty minute time limit applies to 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:52.760 users under eighteen. Once that limit is reached, the teens 1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:54.960 will have to enter in a passcode in order to 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:59.400 continue watching, and the way TikTok describes it, requiring them 1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:02.440 to make an active decision to extend that time. Now, 1:01:02.440 --> 1:01:05.200 do you really think there's gonna be a large percentage 1:01:05.200 --> 1:01:07.600 of teenagers who say, ooh, I've been on this for 1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:09.880 an hour, I should really stop. Let me not put 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:11.080 in this passcode right now. 1:01:12.480 --> 1:01:14.960 Yeah, that's like giving the three year old a spoon 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:17.240 and a tumble of vibe, scream and saying just have 1:01:17.320 --> 1:01:19.240 one bite and then leaving the room. 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:20.920 That applies to me too. 1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:23.720 I mean, I polished off some Halo top last night, 1:01:23.760 --> 1:01:25.080 but thankfully that whole thing. 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:26.160 Is like not that bad for you. 1:01:27.360 --> 1:01:28.480 Go you with a keto. 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:33.800 And then for kids under thirteen, the daily screen time 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:36.360 limit will also be set to sixty minutes, but a 1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:39.520 parent or guardian will have to enter an existing passcode 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:42.200 to enable an additional thirty minutes of watch time. 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:48.120 So yeah, bigfootnote there. That's if TikTok knows your child's 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:51.120 real age, if your child has given it their real age, 1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:53.720 which they usually don't, they usually lie and say they're 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:54.840 eighteen twenty one. 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:58.040 Yeah, my kids begged me to like lie for them. 1:01:58.160 --> 1:01:59.840 They say, Dad, can you please set me up with 1:01:59.880 --> 1:02:03.080 the account? And you know, being a tech person and 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:06.080 the responsible person I try to be. I'm like kids, 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.240 I can't, but I will be honest. I did set 1:02:08.280 --> 1:02:11.120 up one of my kids, the more responsible one with 1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:14.880 a slightly older age, on one of the accounts because 1:02:14.880 --> 1:02:17.800 it was just easier. And you know, I think parents 1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:20.520 are really put in a tough position here because they 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:24.360 want to make things easy for their children, but also 1:02:24.400 --> 1:02:27.320 they want those protections. But those two things do not align, 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:29.720 that's for sure, they really don't. 1:02:29.880 --> 1:02:35.000 And you know, inherently tech should arrive as safe as possible, 1:02:35.280 --> 1:02:37.640 and then if you are an adult, you should be 1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:40.800 able to you know, dial back some layers of safety 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:44.680 because you're able to handle it. Instead, the majority of 1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:48.760 tech is just given to children with full access to 1:02:48.800 --> 1:02:51.400 all the things, and then parents and caregivers are left 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:53.320 having to play that game of whack a mole. And 1:02:53.400 --> 1:02:54.880 it's unprecedented. 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:56.400 Now, TikTok. 1:02:57.160 --> 1:02:59.280 I mean, we're kind of ragging on TikTok here, but 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:01.920 just kind of give me the bigger picture of things, 1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:04.680 like parents want to believe that their kids are just 1:03:04.880 --> 1:03:08.120 okay online. You deal with this on a daily basis. 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:09.880 Is it safe out there? 1:03:10.800 --> 1:03:13.760 It's really not. And I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer. 1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:17.080 I'm not trying to be a fear mongerer. But every 1:03:17.160 --> 1:03:21.320 year we release an annual report based on the data. 1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:23.480 You know, I mentioned earlier we helped protect over six 1:03:23.560 --> 1:03:25.920 and a half mill children across the globe and so 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:28.880 we've seen some things. Last year, we analyzed more than 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:33.200 four and a half billion messages across text, email, YouTube apps, 1:03:33.240 --> 1:03:35.560 et cetera. And we found that the rate at which 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:39.680 children are experiencing things from self harm and suicidal ideation 1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:45.040 to extreme sexual content and predators to disordered eating content 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:48.240 and anxiety and bullying and depression and drugs and alcohol 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:52.960 and violence are incredibly high in the sixty seventy eighty 1:03:53.000 --> 1:03:56.760 percentile range. It's very problematic. 1:03:57.320 --> 1:03:59.800 I mean, I feel like as an adult, it's tough 1:03:59.840 --> 1:04:02.880 to process sort of everything that you're exposed to online 1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:05.800 on a daily basis, not just the bad stuff, but 1:04:05.840 --> 1:04:08.960 also dealing with the time that we spend on our devices. 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:12.120 Like I'm on my phone a lot. I'm getting messages 1:04:12.160 --> 1:04:15.720 from people all over the world that are talking to 1:04:15.760 --> 1:04:18.040 me and telling me stuff. And sometimes people are nice, 1:04:18.080 --> 1:04:21.040 sometimes they're mean. And that's for an adult to process, 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:23.840 which you know, my brain is somewhat fully formed. Maybe 1:04:23.840 --> 1:04:26.200 some of it's gone, you know, but you know it's there, 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.400 and you know, so for kids that are still, you know, 1:04:29.520 --> 1:04:31.600 at these critical stages of life, I feel like it's 1:04:32.240 --> 1:04:34.640 this is something we've never really had to go through before, 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:37.800 as you know, humans, we haven't. 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:41.680 We are in the words of my favorite documentary Childhood 1:04:41.680 --> 1:04:45.040 two dot Zho that's free on YouTube. I highly encourage 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:48.960 anybody to watch it. There's a doctor in there that 1:04:49.000 --> 1:04:53.280 says we're essentially living in an experiment right now. What happens, 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:54.360 we'll find out. 1:04:54.680 --> 1:04:56.760 And I'm like, cool, that is so true. 1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:58.200 All right, So I've got about a minute. Can you 1:04:58.240 --> 1:05:01.840 give me some takeaway? What can parents do today? 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:03.440 Okay? 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:06.480 Quick takeaways? First of all, you're listening to us, so 1:05:06.680 --> 1:05:09.840 good job, thank you. You are now more aware. Second 1:05:09.840 --> 1:05:12.960 thing you can do is talk to your kids. Please 1:05:12.960 --> 1:05:17.880 have ongoing, frequent, candid conversations with them about the toughest 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:21.240 topics that humanity encounters. At a much younger agent. You 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:22.640 might think, is it easy? 1:05:22.840 --> 1:05:22.920 No? 1:05:23.480 --> 1:05:26.760 Is it imperative yes. If they know that you are 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:29.520 a safe place and you can talk about anything and 1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:32.680 they're not going to be punished or blamed or lose 1:05:32.720 --> 1:05:35.600 their access to the games and the phones, they'll be 1:05:35.640 --> 1:05:37.800 more likely to talk to you about these things when 1:05:37.800 --> 1:05:41.080 they come up. Finally, if your children do have access 1:05:41.120 --> 1:05:44.200 to tech, whether it's a gaming console, a smart television, 1:05:44.200 --> 1:05:47.000 a smartphone and iPad, etc. Please take the time to 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:50.560 google the parental controls that come free and built in 1:05:50.680 --> 1:05:52.960 with whatever you've given them, because they are there and 1:05:53.000 --> 1:05:55.680 they are helpful. And then finally, if you're interested in 1:05:55.720 --> 1:05:59.920 what BARK does, look us up try a free trial. 1:06:00.120 --> 1:06:01.440 Happy to help protect your family. 1:06:02.360 --> 1:06:05.960 Titania Jordan, thank you so much, Chief Parent Officer at BARK. 1:06:06.000 --> 1:06:08.560 I know you're a parent, and I'm sure you have 1:06:08.680 --> 1:06:11.720 your own issues with what you know you have to 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:13.720 go through. I know I do with two kids, and 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:16.200 you know it's it's not easy, and we're we're techy's 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:18.960 and so I imagine for parents that aren't dealing with 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:21.800 us on a daily basis, with you know, knowing this stuff, 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:24.080 it's even tougher. So thanks so much for coming on 1:06:24.120 --> 1:06:25.440 the show today. I really appreciate it. 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:26.960 Thank you for having me. 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:29.920 All Right, I'll put a link to Titanya on my 1:06:30.200 --> 1:06:33.920 website at richon tech dot tv. Go ahead and follow 1:06:33.960 --> 1:06:38.800 her on Twitter or Instagram. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:41.440 So much more for you. In the show, we're going 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:45.000 to talk about RING adding some new fees. Oh, the 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:48.680 free ride is over for you RING users. Plus we'll 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:51.240 have more of your calls at triple eight rich one 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:53.960 oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four two four 1:06:54.120 --> 1:06:58.000 one zero one. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome 1:06:58.040 --> 1:07:00.080 back to the show. My name is Rich demiro So, 1:07:00.160 --> 1:07:05.000 tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. I 1:07:05.040 --> 1:07:09.440 am taking very good notes of today's show because I 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.680 do put the show out as a podcast every week 1:07:11.720 --> 1:07:14.360 after it's all said and done, and I'm trying to 1:07:14.440 --> 1:07:16.280 up my game with some of the notes I put 1:07:16.320 --> 1:07:19.280 in the podcast. So if you've been listening to that 1:07:19.640 --> 1:07:22.840 and you're saying, Rich, you got to up your game 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:25.520 with these notes, because sometimes it's just like, Okay, Rich 1:07:25.560 --> 1:07:28.920 talked about this. Now I'm keeping much better notes. Anyway, 1:07:28.960 --> 1:07:30.520 if you want to listen to the podcast later on, 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:34.360 just search Rich on Tech in your favorite audio app. 1:07:35.120 --> 1:07:36.200 All right, let's. 1:07:36.040 --> 1:07:40.440 See John is in more Park, California. John, you're on 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:40.959 with Rich. 1:07:41.640 --> 1:07:41.800 Hi. 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:47.360 Rich, thank you for taking my call. I have a 1:07:47.440 --> 1:07:53.520 volunteer job at the local senior center, and I've had 1:07:53.560 --> 1:08:00.240 a PC since about August in nineteen eighty seven, the 1:08:00.280 --> 1:08:04.000 same one August of eighty seven, I've had a PC. 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:06.960 I've had a Mac for ten years and right now 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:13.120 I'm using a Microsoft Surface Book. Anyway, one of the 1:08:13.120 --> 1:08:17.880 customers at the senior center who came in the computer room, 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.760 asked me. He says, everybody told me I should get 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:23.920 a computer? What should I buy? What should I get? 1:08:24.040 --> 1:08:26.320 And you know, I've been doing this for god god, 1:08:26.400 --> 1:08:30.720 almost thirty or forty years, and I just you know, 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:35.280 I'm Betwicks in between. What what do you advise people 1:08:35.400 --> 1:08:37.960 like that? I asked him, and he says he only 1:08:37.960 --> 1:08:41.880 has the landline and knows nothing about computers. 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:42.800 Well, what do you do? 1:08:42.880 --> 1:08:44.800 Would people ask you questions like that? 1:08:45.920 --> 1:08:47.719 I send him somewhere else. No, I'm just kidding. 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:51.639 Just yeah, I mean that's why you're calling me. I mean, look, 1:08:52.080 --> 1:08:54.000 you know, so you're saying that they don't have Wi 1:08:54.000 --> 1:08:54.639 Fi at their home? 1:08:54.720 --> 1:08:55.559 Is that part of it? 1:08:56.200 --> 1:08:57.080 They probably do not? 1:08:57.360 --> 1:08:57.679 Okay? 1:08:57.760 --> 1:08:59.800 So that I mean, I mean, here's the thing. If 1:08:59.800 --> 1:09:00.799 you're and how old. 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:01.160 Is this person? 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:03.080 Ah, he's crazy? 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:04.240 Okay. 1:09:04.280 --> 1:09:08.120 So I mean, look, they probably want something that's simple. 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:12.080 They probably want something that's easy. And I would say, 1:09:12.160 --> 1:09:14.960 I mean, the ideal situation would be that this computer 1:09:15.000 --> 1:09:17.320 would probably have five G built into it or you know, 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:20.600 a cellular connection. But I don't think they're going to 1:09:20.640 --> 1:09:21.760 want to do that. I mean, are they going to 1:09:21.800 --> 1:09:23.680 want to pay twenty thirty bucks a month for a 1:09:23.680 --> 1:09:25.040 cellular connection on this computer. 1:09:25.680 --> 1:09:27.840 Of course not. And then I was thinking, well, maybe 1:09:27.880 --> 1:09:30.240 they would be happy with a kindle or something like that. 1:09:31.200 --> 1:09:33.640 I mean, I like, yeah, I don't know, that's not 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:35.320 going to really you can't really go online. 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:37.000 Oh, I don't know what to say. 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:39.959 Well, I mean, look, the thing that I would recommend, 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:41.479 I mean, there's a couple of things, but I would 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:44.880 recommend a Chromebook obviously, because that's just super simple. It's 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:49.080 very easy, it's full proof. It's basically a glorified Chrome 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:51.880 web browser. So they're not going to be able to 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:53.960 make any mistakes on this thing. They're not gonna have 1:09:53.960 --> 1:09:57.000 to worry about viruses. I think the biggest trick is 1:09:57.040 --> 1:10:01.040 really the Internet. So what i'd recommend is probably a 1:10:01.160 --> 1:10:05.439 nice Chromebook and then maybe a hot spot. So do 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:07.760 they have a cell phone? 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:10.519 I know he has just a landline. 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:11.880 Okay, just a landline. 1:10:12.240 --> 1:10:15.360 Well, so what I would do is maybe recommend if 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:17.000 they you know, and again they're gonna have to pay 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:18.880 a little bit to get this internet. They could do 1:10:18.920 --> 1:10:21.479 two things. Number one, they can get this chromebook and 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:23.440 they can use it at a place like a Starbucks 1:10:23.479 --> 1:10:27.080 or McDonald's. Or a library wherever they have free internet access, 1:10:27.439 --> 1:10:29.479 so they can do that, find out a local place 1:10:29.520 --> 1:10:31.719 that has a free Wi Fi signal, maybe the Senior 1:10:31.760 --> 1:10:34.000 center has it, and they can just use their computer 1:10:34.040 --> 1:10:36.160 when they do that. Since you're telling me this person 1:10:36.200 --> 1:10:39.599 has not really used a computer in their most adult life, 1:10:39.880 --> 1:10:41.439 I don't think they're going to go from zero to 1:10:41.439 --> 1:10:43.599 one hundred where they need to use it every single 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:46.479 second of the day. So maybe they just get a 1:10:46.520 --> 1:10:49.080 computer that they bring to the senior center once, you know, 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:51.160 an hour a day and they do their stuff on there. 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:53.519 They check their email, they surf the web, watch YouTube, 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:55.760 and you know, and then they can bring it home 1:10:55.800 --> 1:10:56.280 and that's it. 1:10:56.840 --> 1:11:00.560 But if they hadn't thought of the chromebook, is particular 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:04.120 model of chrome book that you would recommend off the 1:11:04.160 --> 1:11:05.000 top of your head. 1:11:05.120 --> 1:11:07.320 Or there is no there is? 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:08.880 Because I was just well, there's a couple of plays, 1:11:08.880 --> 1:11:10.719 I mean you could take, you know, I've been testing 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:13.680 one that I really like that I thought was pretty inexpensive. 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:17.080 It's like under five hundred dollars. It's uh gosh, I 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:22.920 think it's the ACER five fourteen. I repeat that, the 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:26.240 ACER five fourteen. Let me just make sure because I'm 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:27.920 looking up. We just did this on KTLA. Yeah, it's 1:11:27.920 --> 1:11:30.839 the Acer five fourteen, So that's. 1:11:30.640 --> 1:11:33.000 A good one. Now, I have you heard of the 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:34.000 website wirecutter. 1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:37.559 I have, so I like what they recommend I've I've 1:11:37.600 --> 1:11:40.800 interviewed kimber Streams over there and we've talked about the 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:44.719 recommendations that they have and they really like let's see 1:11:46.040 --> 1:11:50.320 the Lenovo Flex five I, which is anywhere from three 1:11:50.360 --> 1:11:52.200 to five hundred dollars. So I would take a look 1:11:52.200 --> 1:11:56.000 at those two. But that's going to be a good start. Now, 1:11:56.720 --> 1:11:59.679 Samsung has some laptops, but I think they're too expensive 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:02.400 for what but you're looking at. But they do have 1:12:02.439 --> 1:12:06.320 some cellular capabilities built in, sort of the Microsoft surface laptops. 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:09.479 We're seeing more and more of these laptops get cellular 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:12.360 built in. But the problem is, you know, it's expensive, 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:15.320 it really SAPs the battery, and I think that it 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:17.439 just makes things a little bit complicated for someone that's 1:12:17.640 --> 1:12:18.200 just getting out. 1:12:19.040 --> 1:12:21.800 I'm sure the guy is gonna freak out when I 1:12:21.920 --> 1:12:24.920 recommend something in the area of five hundred dollars, but 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:27.919 that's about where I would go myself. 1:12:28.120 --> 1:12:29.760 Yeah, I mean, look, you can get a Chromebook for 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:32.040 much cheaper. You can get a chromebook for two three 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:32.759 hundred bucks. 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:34.960 But you know the old adage, you get what you 1:12:35.080 --> 1:12:35.519 pay for. 1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:38.439 And if they're just getting on this thing and it's 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:41.760 slow and it's just not nice and it's just like 1:12:41.960 --> 1:12:44.439 a slog to get through it, they're just not gonna 1:12:44.479 --> 1:12:46.760 have a good experience. But you know you can get them. 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:49.160 And believe me, they do have. I mean this Chromebook 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:52.960 that they're recommending, this Lenovo Flex five I. Let's see 1:12:52.960 --> 1:12:55.960 how much it is on Amazon. It is it's two 1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:58.000 ninety nine, So you know what go with that one? 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:01.719 That's a Lenovo Idea Pad Flex five I. Two hundred 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:03.920 and ninetynine bucks. That's a pretty good price for a 1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:07.200 computer to get started with. All right, all right, John, 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:09.240 thanks so much for calling today. I appreciate it. Good 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:12.080 luck with that. That's definitely h You know, it's one 1:13:12.120 --> 1:13:15.439 of those things where I recommend tech products all the time, 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:19.200 and yes, people want stuff that is inexpensive, and I 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:22.040 understand that, but you do get what. 1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:22.439 You pay for. 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:24.400 And if I was recommending a laptop to like a 1:13:24.439 --> 1:13:26.800 college student or something like that, you know, the MacBooks 1:13:27.040 --> 1:13:29.320 they're a little bit more expensive, but they last a 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:32.360 very very long time. And believe me, I have a 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:34.840 whole system where I passed down my old computer to 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:37.720 like family members, and I still have my dad. I 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:40.360 was just home and he's still using a twenty thirteen 1:13:40.479 --> 1:13:43.840 computer and you're talking ten years old. And I, you know, 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:45.639 he said, I need a new computer, this one soul, 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:47.240 I said, Dad, I'm looking at it. 1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:47.759 It's great. 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.479 Like this thing is still running really well. Now some 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.280 of the software updates, yeah, they're not really coming through anymore. 1:13:53.320 --> 1:13:56.760 But you know, again, it's just all about the longevity 1:13:56.760 --> 1:13:57.360 with this stuff. 1:13:58.320 --> 1:13:58.640 All right. 1:13:58.680 --> 1:14:00.880 Let me tell you about ring real quick. If if 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:04.200 you have a ring alarm system, starting March twenty ninth, 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:08.200 you're gonna have to pay for some new features, including 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:12.760 arming and disarming the system from the app. So if 1:14:12.800 --> 1:14:17.040 you want to continue arming and disarming your ring alarm 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:19.519 system using the app, you're gonna have to start paying 1:14:19.520 --> 1:14:21.880 three dollars and ninety nine cents a month. Not a 1:14:21.880 --> 1:14:24.240 whole bunch of money, it's forty bucks a year, but 1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:27.880 that's what you're gonna have to do after March twenty ninth. 1:14:28.360 --> 1:14:31.479 So you can still arm and disarm manually using the 1:14:31.560 --> 1:14:34.839 keypad in your home. But this is very similar similar 1:14:34.840 --> 1:14:37.439 to what simply Safe does. If you want their basic 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:40.640 subscription that you know you're just using sort of the 1:14:40.720 --> 1:14:45.120 keyfob or the the the actual system to arm and disarm, 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:47.839 you pay one price. But if you want the app 1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:50.240 to do it, which of course is more convenient, you're 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:53.320 gonna pay a secondary price. So starting March twenty ninth, 1:14:53.760 --> 1:14:56.160 free ride is over for ring folks. So again, this 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.680 is just a trend we're seeing with all these companies. 1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:02.400 The re ride with all these tech companies is definitely over. 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:05.640 You're paying pay and paying rich on Tech. Here you 1:15:05.720 --> 1:15:08.800 are listening to Rich Demiro talking tech. More of your 1:15:08.800 --> 1:15:12.320 calls at Triple eight Rich one oh one eighty eight 1:15:12.360 --> 1:15:17.000 seven four to two four one zero one. Welcome back 1:15:17.000 --> 1:15:20.000 to rich on Tech. My name is Rich Dmiro, tech 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:24.320 reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Hope you 1:15:24.360 --> 1:15:29.120 are having a fantastic day. I know I am, and 1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:31.040 man I said, this show is going by fast. We 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:34.599 are in our number three. When they said Rich, could 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:37.200 you do a three hour show? I said, hmm, I'm 1:15:37.240 --> 1:15:40.120 usually talking on TV for about two to three minutes, 1:15:40.720 --> 1:15:43.840 so three hours sounded kind of long, but uh, you 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:46.040 know what, now that I'm doing it, I could talk 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:49.160 even longer. Should we start a longer rich on Tech? No, 1:15:49.240 --> 1:15:51.000 I'm just kidding. I think I think three hours is 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:53.800 good for now. All right, you can find me online 1:15:53.840 --> 1:16:00.439 at rich on Tech. Let's go to Brian in Ventura, California. Brian, 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:03.719 you're on with rich calling from a very beautiful place. 1:16:03.760 --> 1:16:06.720 We were just up in Ventura and people when I 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:09.679 post it to my Instagram, they said, stop posting about 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:10.240 our place. 1:16:10.360 --> 1:16:11.519 We don't want people to come here. 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:13.760 It's tough to live here. 1:16:14.920 --> 1:16:15.760 What can I help you with? 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:18.200 It's good to be me, Rich. 1:16:18.280 --> 1:16:24.479 I'm I'm looking to upgrade my my smart TV. As 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:27.680 I'm getting older, though, I'm having some hearing loss and 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:33.400 I'm finding it very difficult to listen, particularly to like 1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:38.040 the series TV shows. I can hear fine if i'm 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:40.839 listening to the news, but when it comes to TV shows, 1:16:41.200 --> 1:16:43.920 I just I just I had no idea what they're saying. 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:46.320 It's not just you, by the way, that's uh, you know, 1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:49.479 that's that's like a thing like it's some of these 1:16:49.479 --> 1:16:51.679 shows are really tough. Like a lot of people watch 1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:53.960 with the with the captioning on like I know, I do, 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:57.000 my wife does, because it could be really tough to 1:16:57.040 --> 1:16:59.120 hear sometimes and it's and all of a sudden you 1:16:59.160 --> 1:17:01.200 get like a commercial and it's like, you know, blowing 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:02.160 your ear drums out. 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:03.880 So anyway, I understand. 1:17:03.560 --> 1:17:07.400 That's the problem my current my current TV. Sometimes I 1:17:07.439 --> 1:17:09.479 can get the captioning, sometimes I can't. 1:17:09.640 --> 1:17:12.360 Okay, So you're looking to upgrade. What can I help 1:17:12.400 --> 1:17:12.640 you with? 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:19.320 My question is do the do the current TVs? Do 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:22.080 they have the ability for me to listen via a 1:17:22.120 --> 1:17:28.120 Bluetooth headphone and my wife still listen on either our soundbar. 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:29.280 Or the TV speakers? 1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:31.959 And what about something called a dual output? 1:17:32.200 --> 1:17:34.360 Yes, yeah, and that's what I was going to mention. 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:38.360 So it depends on the TV obviously and the specific 1:17:38.439 --> 1:17:41.600 model that you get, but some of the TVs, some 1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:44.479 of the smart TVs can do this. And it also 1:17:44.520 --> 1:17:46.680 depends you know what you're are you going to use 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:48.080 the built in software on the TV? 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:53.719 Well, we typically right now we use Roku. 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:55.600 Oh you do use Roku Okay, so that could be 1:17:55.640 --> 1:17:58.479 different because you know, depending on how the Roku's set 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:02.040 up that now to use the Roku software on the TV, 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:03.280 or is it a separate box. 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:08.040 It's a separate plug in because the current TV doesn't 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:09.799 have apps or anything. 1:18:10.000 --> 1:18:13.000 Okay, interesting, but you're trying to upgrade to a whole 1:18:13.000 --> 1:18:17.920 new TV. You're saying, yes, okay, so okay, well just 1:18:17.920 --> 1:18:21.400 just I mean, so Samsung, I know, does the dual 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:26.040 output and so you can connect you know, the speaker. 1:18:26.080 --> 1:18:28.960 You can connect a Bluetooth audio device and have the 1:18:29.040 --> 1:18:32.960 speaker as well, so you get the best of both worlds. 1:18:33.000 --> 1:18:33.160 There. 1:18:33.760 --> 1:18:36.719 Uh, that's the one I know of I'm not sure. 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:38.439 I think you know some of the other TVs. I'm 1:18:38.479 --> 1:18:40.640 sure a lot of the TVs do that, especially the 1:18:40.680 --> 1:18:43.080 smart TVs give you that option, but it is something 1:18:43.080 --> 1:18:47.920 you have to turn on in the option, so I know, yeah. 1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:50.559 Like you mentioned, the dual audio is the thing. 1:18:50.600 --> 1:18:53.519 It's something It's interesting because you know, some of the 1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:56.120 smartphones I test have this feature as well, and obviously 1:18:56.200 --> 1:18:59.320 Apple has it with their with their own headphones. But 1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:00.920 it's one of these things like you know, you got 1:19:00.920 --> 1:19:03.080 two different people, they want to listen two different ways, 1:19:03.640 --> 1:19:05.840 you know, like let's give these people these options. And 1:19:05.880 --> 1:19:08.559 I think with software nowadays, a lot of that is capable. 1:19:08.960 --> 1:19:11.400 It just depends on whether the manufacturer builds it in, 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:13.720 whether they allow it, or whether they you know, take 1:19:13.760 --> 1:19:15.080 the time to program it. 1:19:15.200 --> 1:19:15.400 Right. 1:19:15.800 --> 1:19:18.000 But if you're you, I can hook my I can 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.600 hook it up to my current TV via Bluetooth, but 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:23.080 it shuts off the TV speakers in the sandbar. 1:19:23.439 --> 1:19:23.599 Right. 1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:24.719 Is this an older TV? 1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:27.240 Yeah, like first generation? 1:19:27.560 --> 1:19:30.880 Yeah, that's probably why. I mean TVs have definitely gotten 1:19:31.280 --> 1:19:35.280 Oh yeah, yeah, But I would, I would, I would 1:19:35.360 --> 1:19:37.280 check to see if it has this capability. 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:39.720 Like whatever model you've fund with, what's that? 1:19:39.760 --> 1:19:41.360 I can't find it anywhere. 1:19:41.880 --> 1:19:43.200 On the TV specs? 1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:44.439 No? 1:19:45.880 --> 1:19:46.360 Interesting? 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:48.519 Well, I know Samsung, I mean just looking up if 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:51.400 I let's see, if I look up Samsung dual Audio, 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:56.000 you know, it's definitely a thing. So it's yea, it's 1:19:56.000 --> 1:19:59.200 a thing. So I would, you know, I would definitely 1:19:59.320 --> 1:20:01.519 check into that and see, you know, maybe if you're 1:20:02.280 --> 1:20:04.080 I would, you know, maybe find one of these like 1:20:04.160 --> 1:20:06.720 really in depth reviews on something and like if you're 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:09.479 if you're narrowing down on the TV, I would, you know, 1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:11.800 make sure that it has that functionality. And that may 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.080 take like a kind of a deeper Google search to 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.600 see if someone has mentioned it. But it looks like 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:19.320 from what I'm seeing a lot of the Samsung TVs, 1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:22.120 if you go into the accessibility feature, I think that's 1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:24.920 really you know, where it's gonna where it's going to live. 1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:29.760 Okay, Okay. The second question is, uh, you know, I'm 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:33.680 looking at a Costco TV and evidently the ones that 1:20:33.720 --> 1:20:36.280 I'm looking at are a two year old model. Does 1:20:36.280 --> 1:20:37.439 that really make a difference. 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:40.120 I don't think so. I don't think so at all. 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:43.040 I mean, I don't really know what you're going to 1:20:43.120 --> 1:20:45.960 get from two years ago. I mean, I'll be honest. 1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:48.000 I have a TV that's, you know, many years old, 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:50.840 and it still works just fine. So I think the 1:20:50.880 --> 1:20:53.120 newer TVs, you know, they might be brighter, they may 1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:56.720 have more backlit areas in them, they may have you know, 1:20:56.800 --> 1:20:58.840 new types of lighting. You know, they've got these micro 1:20:58.960 --> 1:21:01.840 LEDs and things like that. But this is what I 1:21:01.840 --> 1:21:03.680 tell people. If you're going from a TV that you 1:21:03.760 --> 1:21:05.760 just said is you know, ten years old, to a 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:07.960 TV that's two years old, I think you're gonna be 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:10.040 just fine. And I think that if you're getting a 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:12.240 good deal on this thing and it does what you need, 1:21:13.400 --> 1:21:15.559 I don't see why you wouldn't get it. 1:21:16.800 --> 1:21:21.000 Okay, all right, well that's terrific. I appreciate your time 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:23.599 and keep up the good work. 1:21:23.400 --> 1:21:29.439 All right, Brian, appreciate it. Enjoy life in sunny Ventura, California. Ah, 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:32.000 let's tell you about a couple of things happening in 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:34.080 the tech world this week. If you've got a Google 1:21:34.120 --> 1:21:37.160 pixel Watch, and I'm tempted to make a joke here 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:40.840 and so to say, like all three of you, I 1:21:40.920 --> 1:21:43.599 know tech humor, but look, you know, the pixel Watch, 1:21:44.360 --> 1:21:47.559 it just I think it failed to impress a lot 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:50.639 of people because it just was very simple. The Apple 1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:53.880 Watch is just so strong of a contender that I 1:21:53.880 --> 1:21:56.720 think the pixel Watch is good and I like it 1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:58.920 as an option for Android, but I just feel like 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:02.680 it was like it's just okay, and you know, the 1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:05.559 screen is small. But anyway, if you got a pixel Watch, 1:22:05.560 --> 1:22:07.000 and I think it's great because I think it's nice 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:11.280 to have a nice watch option on the Android side 1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:15.439 of things. But they did finally roll out their fall 1:22:15.479 --> 1:22:18.679 detection to the pixel Watch, So if you were watching 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:20.800 the launch of this thing, they said we're gonna have 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:23.000 fall detection. Within a couple of months, the pixel Watch 1:22:23.080 --> 1:22:26.000 launched and I think it was October and now they 1:22:26.000 --> 1:22:28.840 are rolling out the fall detection, So if you got 1:22:28.880 --> 1:22:31.080 this thing and you were curious about this, you should 1:22:31.080 --> 1:22:31.920 probably activate it. 1:22:33.320 --> 1:22:33.519 Yeah. 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:37.200 I think it's a very very helpful feature. And fall 1:22:37.240 --> 1:22:41.160 detection will basically if you ever fall with your watch on, 1:22:41.479 --> 1:22:43.519 it will call nine one one or it will dial 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:46.960 folks in your emergency contact. So if you want to 1:22:47.000 --> 1:22:49.400 activate it, you can check for it on the device 1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:54.439 or in the Personal Safety app on Android. And it's 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:58.120 been tested and obviously Google is very familiar with algorithms, 1:22:58.120 --> 1:23:00.440 so they've tried to make sure that they can justinguish 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:04.960 between doing something that's you know, physical or something that 1:23:05.000 --> 1:23:07.720 would actually mean you fell. And I had with the 1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:10.040 Apple Watch a couple of times where I'm sort of 1:23:10.040 --> 1:23:12.680 wrestling with the kids, you hit the ground pretty hard 1:23:12.720 --> 1:23:13.360 and it would say. 1:23:13.240 --> 1:23:14.280 Oh, did you just take a fall? 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:18.880 And you know, so it happens, but usually with this one, 1:23:19.000 --> 1:23:23.080 so for instance, they're going to have a thirty second timeout, 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:26.320 so it's gonna, you know, once it detects a hard fall, 1:23:26.640 --> 1:23:29.360 it's gonna wait thirty seconds for any sort of movement 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:32.200 before it will vibrate and set off an audible alarm. 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:33.560 That sounds like kind of a lot to me, Like 1:23:33.600 --> 1:23:35.519 I wouldn't want to be sitting there for thirty seconds, 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:39.400 but I guess it's better than nothing. And then once 1:23:39.439 --> 1:23:42.719 this happens, notification prompt will pop up on the watch 1:23:43.000 --> 1:23:44.880 and ask if you need help, and if you don't, 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.840 you can say you're okay. Otherwise you can say I 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:50.680 fell and need help, or it will just proceed to 1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:54.400 call emergency services. It will share a location with them, 1:23:55.000 --> 1:23:57.320 or you can speak to the U nine one one 1:23:57.360 --> 1:24:01.160 operator through the watch. So I think this is one 1:24:01.200 --> 1:24:03.360 of the reasons why I really enjoy having cellular on 1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:06.320 my watch, because you just never know, you know, you're 1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:08.240 out there running, and it's just something I'd never really 1:24:08.240 --> 1:24:11.040 thought about before because I've run outside by myself for 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:13.920 so long. But can you imagine just like being stuck 1:24:13.960 --> 1:24:16.840 there and like not being able to like get help. 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:18.320 I mean, it's just. 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:22.559 Don't even want to think about that. Should you click 1:24:22.640 --> 1:24:24.160 unsubscribe on an email? 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:24.679 Hmm? 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:28.760 This is a question that I get off and often so. 1:24:28.840 --> 1:24:31.040 The bottom line is, and this is from Roger Grimes. 1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:33.880 He is from No Before security expert. He has been 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:36.920 on the show before, but he sent out this little 1:24:37.000 --> 1:24:37.920 primer this week. 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:39.640 Should you click on unsubscribed? 1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:43.720 The short answer is yes if it's from a legitimate 1:24:43.840 --> 1:24:47.040 company sending you the email. No if it looks like 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:51.000 it's from a spam marketer. If you click an email 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:53.360 that says you know, if it's from a spammer, and 1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:56.040 you click on subscribe, it just basically tells them that 1:24:56.080 --> 1:24:59.040 this email address is great and they should send you 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:02.360 more spam. So do not click on unsubscribe in these 1:25:02.360 --> 1:25:05.120 emails that you know. I'm not going to say what 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:06.880 they say with all these emails that you get that 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.160 you know they're spam, they're not legitimate. But if you 1:25:09.200 --> 1:25:12.479 get one from Macy's Best Buy home depot, sure you 1:25:12.520 --> 1:25:14.960 can click on subscribe and they will honor that. The 1:25:15.000 --> 1:25:17.719 one loophole he said is that they can still email 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:20.879 you even if you said unsubscribe if it is related 1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:25.920 to a transactional or relationship, meaning you've done business with 1:25:25.960 --> 1:25:30.120 this company before and it continues the relationship with that company. 1:25:30.160 --> 1:25:32.679 So they could kind of get around this like spam 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.920 situation by saying, well, we think that we still need 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:38.000 to email Rich just to make sure about this thing, 1:25:38.040 --> 1:25:41.080 this sale that we're having. So again, should you click 1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:44.439 on unsubscribed, don't. When in doubt, just delete the email 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:47.519 without clicking any of the links. If it's spam, report 1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:51.120 it as spam using your email provider, or if it's 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:55.440 a legitimate email, definitely unsubscribe. In fact, I love unsubscribing. 1:25:55.760 --> 1:25:57.320 It's one of my favorite things to do if it's 1:25:57.360 --> 1:26:01.240 from a legitimate company. Up, you've heard of this whole 1:26:01.320 --> 1:26:05.360 Last Past debacle. We're going to talk to Wirecutter security 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:09.280 expert Thorin Klowsowski. He is going to talk to us 1:26:09.360 --> 1:26:12.720 about some of the alternatives to last pass if you're 1:26:12.760 --> 1:26:16.439 thinking of making a switch, plus some of the third 1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:20.519 party password managers that they recommend. You are listening to 1:26:21.000 --> 1:26:23.320 rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, coming up 1:26:23.360 --> 1:26:26.120 more of your calls. The phone lines are open Triple 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:29.120 eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:32.680 to two, four to one zero one. Welcome back to 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:37.400 rich on Tech. My name is Rich DeMuro, chattin technology 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:40.880 at Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight 1:26:40.920 --> 1:26:43.840 seven four to two, four to one zero one. 1:26:46.720 --> 1:26:48.960 Elijah's in Westwood, Elijah, what's up? 1:26:50.000 --> 1:26:52.800 Hey, Rich? Great fans of the show, we listened to 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:56.719 it every week here at the shop and yeah, really 1:26:56.840 --> 1:26:59.559 appreciate the work you do. So I'd like to talk 1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:02.320 to you first about the gentleman at the senior center 1:27:02.720 --> 1:27:06.720 that was looking at options for connectivity for the seniors. 1:27:07.040 --> 1:27:09.280 I have a shop that's a tech shop that's devoted 1:27:09.680 --> 1:27:13.160 technology education, digital literacy for seniors and adult learners here 1:27:13.160 --> 1:27:17.120 in Westwood, and very often you can make a connection, 1:27:17.200 --> 1:27:21.680 whether it's an ADHC and adult day healthcare center or 1:27:22.720 --> 1:27:25.280 senior living and many of the same options that are 1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:29.439 provided to the on housed population that has connectivity, you know, 1:27:29.520 --> 1:27:33.240 inside of the shelters can be given. Often you'll see 1:27:33.240 --> 1:27:36.800 a booth you know, with people handing our phones, they 1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:39.000 can be contacted and they have a program where they 1:27:39.040 --> 1:27:43.160 hand out alt hotel and different tablets. Yes, have connectivity, 1:27:43.479 --> 1:27:46.000 and they're often given for up to a year of connectivity. 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.439 Now the tablet's is a decent option to warm somebody up. 1:27:49.800 --> 1:27:53.120 It has that three, four or five G connectivity, you 1:27:53.120 --> 1:27:53.320 know what. 1:27:54.680 --> 1:27:56.519 You know what, I didn't even think about a tablet 1:27:56.560 --> 1:28:00.040 because he said computer, and you're right, like an I 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:03.040 had with cellular even I mean, now again this is 1:28:03.080 --> 1:28:06.719 all very it gets very expensive very quickly. But yeah, 1:28:06.760 --> 1:28:10.080 something like the Affordable Connectivity Program in this case might work. 1:28:11.200 --> 1:28:11.840 I think it does. 1:28:12.040 --> 1:28:14.479 You know, they often give classes with it as well, 1:28:14.560 --> 1:28:17.960 or we give classes with them, and those options are 1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.360 out there sometimes. Rich, I think there were some laws where, 1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:23.000 you know, in the state of California where different providers, 1:28:23.040 --> 1:28:25.640 whether the Frontier or Sprint or T Mobile, so on 1:28:25.680 --> 1:28:29.000 and so forth. I'm just suggesting I need to share 1:28:29.160 --> 1:28:31.840 certain amounts of bandwidth for you know, certain of our 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:34.879 populations in need. And that could not be an insolubly 1:28:34.960 --> 1:28:37.479 financial need. It could be an accessibility need for a 1:28:37.560 --> 1:28:41.240 senior or you know, a person that has some physical challenges, 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.240 and we work with those companies in those options. So 1:28:44.520 --> 1:28:48.559 those are definitely options that an admin could explore, and 1:28:48.600 --> 1:28:51.000 I believe they're out there because you know, we help books. 1:28:50.840 --> 1:28:52.040 Good call doing those things. 1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:54.960 What's the scam I see here? I got to know 1:28:55.000 --> 1:28:57.880 if you have a scam scam going around, what's the scam? 1:28:57.920 --> 1:29:00.120 There's so many scams. I got my way in on here. 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:03.120 I got a phone call from the power company saying 1:29:03.120 --> 1:29:04.760 my electricity is going to be turned off in a 1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:06.840 half an hour. It was like a half an hour 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:11.080 unless I paid my bill immediately. So I even get 1:29:11.120 --> 1:29:12.960 to like the payment part before I hung up. But 1:29:13.000 --> 1:29:15.519 what's h But people fall for this stuff? What's the scam? 1:29:16.280 --> 1:29:19.799 So there are oftenly many going around now. The most 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:23.280 popular ones I see right now are two either on 1:29:23.320 --> 1:29:26.559 the email scam coming from something with a brand name 1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:30.920 like PayPal or a package delivery ups so on and 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.960 so forth. Those need to be very successful because you're 1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:36.720 at the shop we often deal with the aftermath. And 1:29:37.479 --> 1:29:40.880 my suggestion is, of course, to get it in your 1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:43.000 mind that the worst thing that can happen is if 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:45.280 you avoid an email, is you get a late fee, 1:29:46.160 --> 1:29:47.920 and then you can deal with that in the future. 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:52.040 But it's really integral that when folks use their emails, 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:56.839 if somebody can help someone update an older quote unquote Pacbell, 1:29:56.920 --> 1:30:02.360 dot net, caa dot roadrunner, older hotmails, you know certain 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:05.640 males that you can get any longer their legacy. Yeah, 1:30:05.680 --> 1:30:08.200 and move that person to And I'm not promoting any 1:30:08.200 --> 1:30:12.040 company but Google or so on and so forth. You'll 1:30:12.080 --> 1:30:14.479 be a lot more protective. I feel as though, and 1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:17.840 those older emails from justices all just info that comes 1:30:17.840 --> 1:30:21.160 into the shop from folks that those older emails are 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:23.920 legacies and they're just not giving the attention that are 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:24.599 current emails. 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:27.639 Oh yeah, they're on autopilot, like the companies are pilot. 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:30.280 They're not putting any any effort into any spam filtering 1:30:30.360 --> 1:30:31.120 or anything like that. 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:33.920 So yeah, they're waiting today, you know, and they've sold 1:30:33.920 --> 1:30:36.400 their five hundred times at different companies down the line, 1:30:36.439 --> 1:30:39.280 and who knows where they are. And you know, and 1:30:39.320 --> 1:30:43.280 I suggest to our folks here that that computer or 1:30:43.320 --> 1:30:46.160 that phone or that tablet looks like a thirty minute 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:48.800 episode of I Love Lucy, where there's a beginning, a middle, 1:30:48.800 --> 1:30:50.920 and an end. It doesn't have to be that way. 1:30:50.960 --> 1:30:53.080 When you're on there. You can stop in the middle 1:30:53.439 --> 1:30:58.040 and reach out to somebody close to you, parent, friend, child, 1:30:58.120 --> 1:31:01.640 anybody around you and view that with that person. That 1:31:01.840 --> 1:31:05.840 patience is the greatest antidote to those scam rooms because 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:08.200 they're good rich. Oh I know, you can get a 1:31:08.240 --> 1:31:12.040 Windows eight point one computer with spotty connectivity to get 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:14.720 a team viewer on there and convince that soul to 1:31:14.800 --> 1:31:17.360 go to a store and get gift cards. 1:31:17.520 --> 1:31:17.960 Oh I know. 1:31:18.200 --> 1:31:20.519 And I can't get my mom to you know, say 1:31:20.560 --> 1:31:22.640 good morning sometimes, but they could get her to do 1:31:22.680 --> 1:31:23.360 all that. Per se. 1:31:23.640 --> 1:31:25.719 It's all, it's all fear based and time based. 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:28.080 Elijah, I got to run, but thank you so much, 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:31.280 and tell Kim your info so we can give you 1:31:31.280 --> 1:31:31.760 a call back. 1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:35.280 Okay, yes we have medicaea. I want you to know 1:31:35.320 --> 1:31:36.080 it's a great job. 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:38.479 Keep it up, all right, thanks Elijah, I appreciate it. 1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:41.840 Good information there. Wow, I mean there's just so much. 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:45.240 It's just it's sad to me that our seniors and 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:47.880 so much of our so many people. It doesn't even 1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:50.880 not just seniors, it's people fall for this stuff all 1:31:50.920 --> 1:31:54.240 the time. And it's because scam artists are literally working 1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:58.280 twenty four to seven to figure out ways of appealing 1:31:58.479 --> 1:32:01.800 to our better you know, our senses, you know, like 1:32:01.880 --> 1:32:05.000 just just our kindness. Really, that's what it comes down to, 1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:05.960 our human nature. 1:32:06.880 --> 1:32:10.200 All right. Coming up, we're going to talk about Last Pass. 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:14.200 I know that they've been having some issues and you 1:32:14.320 --> 1:32:16.479 might be thinking should I stick with them? Should I 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:19.320 stay with them? Should I ditch them? So we're going 1:32:19.360 --> 1:32:23.439 to talk to the experts at the Wirecutter about you know, 1:32:23.479 --> 1:32:25.920 what you should do the latest with the whole Last 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:30.599 Past issue. How they were hacked. You know, the security 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:33.559 company was hacked themselves and whether you should switch to 1:32:33.640 --> 1:32:35.960 sort of a new provider or just stick it out 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:38.280 with them. So we'll talk about that coming up. Plus 1:32:38.479 --> 1:32:40.800 I might have some more time for some questions. I'm 1:32:40.800 --> 1:32:43.120 also going to talk about the most response I've ever 1:32:43.160 --> 1:32:45.160 gotten to one of the segments we've done here, So 1:32:45.200 --> 1:32:47.040 I'm going to start a new little system here, a 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:51.000 new little segment here called feedback, because you're listening and 1:32:51.040 --> 1:32:53.599 you're also telling me some of the things that maybe 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:55.360 I don't know. So we'll get to that before the 1:32:55.400 --> 1:32:57.760 end of the show. You're listening to rich on Tech. 1:32:57.800 --> 1:33:00.000 Coming up, we'll talk last pass and more of your 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:02.880 calls at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:06.559 eight eight seven four to two four one zero one 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:08.800 if you got some extra time. It just sounds like 1:33:08.840 --> 1:33:11.439 I do. Find me on Instagram. I am at rich 1:33:11.479 --> 1:33:14.559 on Tech. That's where I post all the stuff that 1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:16.639 I'm thinking about on a daily basis. Of course I'm 1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:19.840 also on Twitter and Facebook as well. It is all 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:23.280 rich on Tech. See the theme we got going here. 1:33:23.280 --> 1:33:25.920 You're listening. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back 1:33:25.920 --> 1:33:28.240 to rich on Tech. This is the show where I 1:33:28.280 --> 1:33:30.479 talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about. 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:33.840 It's also the place where I answer your questions. My 1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:36.840 name is rich Demiro, tech reporter at KTLA Channel five 1:33:37.040 --> 1:33:40.639 in Los Angeles. I don't know if you heard about 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:43.760 this whole Last Past debacle, but last Pass is a 1:33:43.880 --> 1:33:49.240 very popular password manager and they were hacked. So now 1:33:49.360 --> 1:33:51.800 folks that use it are probably wondering like do I 1:33:51.880 --> 1:33:52.439 stick with it? 1:33:52.600 --> 1:33:53.000 Do I not? 1:33:53.800 --> 1:33:57.600 So let's bring in security expert thorin Klosowski. 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:00.519 Let's see where are we here channel? 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:03.679 There we go, Thorn. I'm still learning the phone lines 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:04.760 here and your last name? 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:06.200 Did I? Did? I totally butcher that? 1:34:07.040 --> 1:34:07.240 I no? 1:34:07.320 --> 1:34:07.880 I think it was right. 1:34:07.960 --> 1:34:08.800 Yeah? Oh good. 1:34:09.560 --> 1:34:13.920 Thorn is the security expert at Wirecutter and thanks for. 1:34:13.960 --> 1:34:14.679 Joining me today. 1:34:15.280 --> 1:34:16.200 Yeah, thanks for having me. 1:34:16.320 --> 1:34:17.960 So can you give me an update on this last 1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:21.240 past situation? What is the latest? How did they get hacked? 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:24.040 So the latest is we actually kind of know how 1:34:24.040 --> 1:34:28.400 they did get hacked, which was a like a targeted 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:32.400 attack on one of their engineers through their home computer 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:37.360 network and through software called Plex, which is like a 1:34:37.400 --> 1:34:39.320 media server. They were kind of able to get into 1:34:39.360 --> 1:34:43.280 this person's network entirely and access to their passwords, which 1:34:43.280 --> 1:34:47.080 included their last past passwords for their enterprise accounts, so. 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:49.559 They had an open port I'm guessing for this like 1:34:49.960 --> 1:34:52.439 lot for this plex sharing or something, and then that's 1:34:52.439 --> 1:34:53.080 how they got in. 1:34:53.760 --> 1:34:55.760 Yeah, I'm not totally sure what the specifics are. It 1:34:55.800 --> 1:34:58.719 was an actual vulnerability, though we do know much because 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:02.400 it was patched. So they had also not managed to 1:35:02.439 --> 1:35:05.000 update their plans uh that entire time. 1:35:05.560 --> 1:35:06.600 Oh that's embarrassing. 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:08.000 You think you had a bad day and then you 1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:10.679 hear this person's story and you're like, oh, like, you're 1:35:10.760 --> 1:35:14.280 responsible for this company, Like you know, basically it's not 1:35:14.280 --> 1:35:16.439 been good for last past and they are. They were 1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:19.519 a company that I've recommended in the past, and recently 1:35:19.520 --> 1:35:22.519 I've recommend other companies. But I'm curious, do you think 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:25.800 people stick with them or is it time to move on. 1:35:26.720 --> 1:35:28.320 I think it's time to move on. They've kind of 1:35:28.360 --> 1:35:31.320 had enough issues over the years that it kind of 1:35:31.360 --> 1:35:35.000 was already eching that way anyway, and the way that 1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:38.799 they've disclosed how all this happened has been so bad 1:35:39.640 --> 1:35:41.720 that it kind of makes me lose confidence. You can 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:43.559 kind of give a company the benefit of the doubt 1:35:43.720 --> 1:35:46.880 a lot of the time because of this stuff happens, 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:49.519 but the way that they have handled it has been 1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:50.200 very poor. 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:54.519 Now, you cover privacy and security for Wirecutter. Tell me 1:35:54.640 --> 1:35:58.080 about your thoughts on having a password manager in general. 1:35:58.360 --> 1:35:59.880 People always joke to me like, is it a s 1:36:00.360 --> 1:36:02.479 to just, you know, keep this stuff on a piece 1:36:02.520 --> 1:36:05.280 of paper? And in some ways that is actually safe, 1:36:05.320 --> 1:36:07.800 but there's no way you can keep you know, a 1:36:07.920 --> 1:36:11.120 hundred passwords written down and unique and all this stuff. 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:13.719 So what are your thoughts on actually implementing this tech? 1:36:14.479 --> 1:36:17.840 Yeah, I think that most people who are online should 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.920 have a password manager. I do think that there's a 1:36:20.960 --> 1:36:23.320 certain set of people who would be fine with a 1:36:23.320 --> 1:36:25.280 piece of paper if they only have, you know, an 1:36:25.360 --> 1:36:28.639 email account and you know, maybe a couple of newspaper 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:32.000 logins or whatever their bank. But if you have more 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:35.600 than fifteen passwords or so, that becomes pretty untenable, and 1:36:35.640 --> 1:36:39.320 a password manager can help ease that. And it's more 1:36:39.479 --> 1:36:42.920 likely that one of the companies you have an account 1:36:42.960 --> 1:36:44.800 at is going to have a data breach than a 1:36:44.800 --> 1:36:46.320 password manager in most cases. 1:36:46.840 --> 1:36:50.719 And once you start reusing those passwords, they will find 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:53.360 where you've used them in other places. 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:53.760 And exploit that. 1:36:54.560 --> 1:36:55.320 Yep, exactly. 1:36:55.520 --> 1:37:00.840 Okay, So the password manager situation, I mean, first off, 1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:03.559 you've got these built in password managers, like I know 1:37:03.640 --> 1:37:07.000 iOS has one, the iCloud keychain, and then Google really 1:37:07.000 --> 1:37:09.759 pushes THEIRS, which they recently updated so that it works 1:37:09.920 --> 1:37:14.240 pretty well cross platform on iOS and Android and Chrome, 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:16.720 which is like a majority of what people do. So 1:37:16.800 --> 1:37:17.960 do you recommend those. 1:37:17.800 --> 1:37:18.320 At all or no? 1:37:20.040 --> 1:37:23.680 Yes and no. I think that if you are not 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:29.720 super tech savvy and you stick within the ecosystem of 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:32.040 the products that you buy. So if you're ever you 1:37:32.080 --> 1:37:34.040 have an Android phone and you kind of everything you 1:37:34.080 --> 1:37:36.719 do is in Chrome on your desktop, you're an Apple 1:37:37.040 --> 1:37:39.360 user and you have an iPhone and iPad and you 1:37:39.439 --> 1:37:42.960 use Safari on your Mac, then the built in ones 1:37:42.960 --> 1:37:45.439 are probably actually going to be fine for you. If 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:47.880 you use a lot of different browsers, or if you 1:37:47.920 --> 1:37:50.200 tend to bounce between operating systems, maybe you have a 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:54.479 Windows computer and an iPhone, it starts to there's a 1:37:54.479 --> 1:37:58.160 lot of friction there that makes it untenable to use 1:37:58.280 --> 1:38:00.120 on a day to day basis, I would say. 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:04.680 And I mean the other fear is like I mean, 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:07.240 I'm sure you've heard of this whole like iPhone, you 1:38:07.240 --> 1:38:11.200 know pin like you know, pin hijacking, passcode hijacking, whatever 1:38:11.200 --> 1:38:13.320 you want to call it. I mean, looking over your shoulder, 1:38:13.320 --> 1:38:15.120 it's not even a hijack. They're just watching you put 1:38:15.160 --> 1:38:17.639 in your code. And I was surprised because I went 1:38:17.640 --> 1:38:19.400 through and I kind of tested that stuff, and I 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:22.440 looked at the password manager, which I don't use on 1:38:22.439 --> 1:38:26.040 on iOS, the keychain thing, and yeah, it authorizes via 1:38:26.560 --> 1:38:29.439 your face ID, but if that fails, then it goes 1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:31.559 to your passcode. So basically, if someone has a passcode 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:33.840 to your phone, now they have the code to all 1:38:33.880 --> 1:38:36.200 of your passwords. If you're using that device, that's kind 1:38:36.240 --> 1:38:36.719 of scary. 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:40.519 Yeah, and I agree, And I think it's it's all 1:38:40.520 --> 1:38:42.400 about just kind of figuring out what you need in 1:38:42.439 --> 1:38:45.240 that moment. I personally don't like to put all of 1:38:45.280 --> 1:38:48.639 my eggs in one basket in that way. But also 1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:52.040 I feel like it's so important that people use unique 1:38:52.040 --> 1:38:57.000 passwords that what they will use is what they should use. 1:38:57.200 --> 1:38:59.800 Yeah, Like if your iPhone's suggesting like, hey, can we 1:38:59.840 --> 1:39:02.519 create password and save it for you, like unless you 1:39:02.520 --> 1:39:04.400 have a reason that you want to use something else, 1:39:04.479 --> 1:39:07.840 like that's just go for it. Yep, Okay, So with 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:10.960 that said, with these third party password managers, what do 1:39:10.960 --> 1:39:12.360 you recommend and why. 1:39:13.200 --> 1:39:17.920 We recommend too? One Password and Bitwarden. One Password is 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:19.679 a paid subscription, which I know a lot of people 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:22.720 don't like, but in the case of security software, I mean, 1:39:22.800 --> 1:39:24.559 you can kind of see where the money is going. 1:39:25.040 --> 1:39:29.080 They update their Apple lot. It works extremely well across 1:39:29.200 --> 1:39:34.519 operating systems and devices. It's pretty to look at as 1:39:34.680 --> 1:39:38.120 far as software can get anyway, and it just is 1:39:38.200 --> 1:39:42.160 kind of a seamless process no matter where you're at. 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:46.559 And it's probably has the best onboarding of any password 1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:49.040 manager I've ever used, where if you have never used 1:39:49.040 --> 1:39:52.080 a password manager before, it kind of guides you toward 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:54.200 what you're doing and helps you set it up securely. 1:39:55.880 --> 1:39:56.280 The way it. 1:39:56.240 --> 1:39:58.800 Works is that they use a special secret key that 1:39:58.840 --> 1:40:01.760 you actually literally have to print out whenever you first 1:40:01.760 --> 1:40:04.400 set it up, which helps prevent issues like the last 1:40:04.439 --> 1:40:08.720 pass issues. Doesn't make it impenetrable, but it does make 1:40:08.760 --> 1:40:10.559 it would make it much harder for anyone to ever 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:13.960 get into your account without that long code that they 1:40:14.000 --> 1:40:17.200 have you print out. And if you don't like paying 1:40:17.240 --> 1:40:19.720 for things, I also like bit Warden, which is a 1:40:19.760 --> 1:40:23.040 little bit clunkier, but gets the job done and it's 1:40:23.200 --> 1:40:25.800 free or ten dollars for the year I think is 1:40:25.840 --> 1:40:26.640 their subscription. 1:40:26.680 --> 1:40:27.599 It's very very cheap. 1:40:28.479 --> 1:40:31.000 It's not as like polished like it's it's great and 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:33.200 it's nice that they still offer a free option, which 1:40:33.200 --> 1:40:35.960 a lot of these other ones don't, but it's not 1:40:36.920 --> 1:40:39.320 as maybe not as slick like I actually got my 1:40:39.439 --> 1:40:42.320 try to get my dad to use bitwarden, and when 1:40:42.320 --> 1:40:43.800 I was setting it up for him, I was like, 1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:46.640 it's good, and it's great for like a you know, 1:40:46.640 --> 1:40:48.880 if you have a couple, like a couple devices like 1:40:48.920 --> 1:40:50.600 he you know, he's not got too much stuff, but 1:40:51.120 --> 1:40:53.120 it just it became a little bit like clunky. I 1:40:53.120 --> 1:40:55.080 was like, eh, this is so I actually switched to 1:40:55.200 --> 1:40:57.599 the Google situation because I was like, this is just easier, 1:40:57.640 --> 1:40:57.840 you know. 1:40:58.720 --> 1:41:01.360 That's kind of what I've usually recommend with like friends 1:41:01.360 --> 1:41:03.960 and family who aren't super tech savvy. I'll usually start 1:41:04.000 --> 1:41:07.400 them with the built in options or with one password, 1:41:07.479 --> 1:41:10.200 kind of depending on where they're at in that spectrum. 1:41:10.439 --> 1:41:14.240 More advanced folks can use bitworden very easily, or if 1:41:14.280 --> 1:41:17.120 you just start with one password, gets super comfortable with it, 1:41:17.280 --> 1:41:19.439 don't want to pay for it anymore, you can export 1:41:19.479 --> 1:41:20.840 everything over to bitwarden and a. 1:41:20.760 --> 1:41:21.320 Couple of clicks. 1:41:21.360 --> 1:41:23.800 Okay, so that was my next question. So in fact, 1:41:23.840 --> 1:41:26.160 I just went to one passwords website, which by the way, 1:41:26.320 --> 1:41:30.360 is one. It's the number one password dot com. And 1:41:30.439 --> 1:41:32.240 so I went there and it's like time for a 1:41:32.240 --> 1:41:34.720 new password manager will credit you for any remaining time 1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:38.200 on your current bill. But how easy is it to 1:41:38.240 --> 1:41:40.320 switch password manager providers? 1:41:41.240 --> 1:41:45.760 It's I would say, very easy. It's kind of just 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:49.479 export a big spreadsheet file and then you import it 1:41:49.520 --> 1:41:53.439 into the new one. As long as you've used you know, 1:41:53.520 --> 1:41:56.120 Excel once in your life, you'll you'll understand what you 1:41:56.120 --> 1:41:57.439 need to do pretty pretty quickly. 1:41:57.560 --> 1:41:58.439 Now here's my question. 1:41:58.479 --> 1:42:00.600 When you're exporting these things, isn't it just like a 1:42:00.680 --> 1:42:03.479 comma separated value, Like there's no like lock on that file. 1:42:03.600 --> 1:42:07.599 So do you recommend like deleting that immediately, like getting 1:42:07.760 --> 1:42:10.400 like shredding that file on your computer when you're done? 1:42:10.479 --> 1:42:12.439 Yeah, I would, yeah, I would definitely make sure that 1:42:12.520 --> 1:42:16.599 make sure everything imported properly and then and then delete 1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:18.519 everything right and then delete the file. 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:22.559 Okay, So and then what about people are also looking 1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:25.400 into like these physical keys. Is that even has that 1:42:25.560 --> 1:42:27.559 been a thing or passwordless? You know, we hear this 1:42:27.600 --> 1:42:30.720 whole idea of like the future being passwordless any of 1:42:30.720 --> 1:42:31.120 that stuff. 1:42:31.120 --> 1:42:33.240 In reality, I. 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:36.479 Think that passwordless will be a reality and we'll start 1:42:36.479 --> 1:42:39.639 seeing it more over the next couple of years. Chrome 1:42:39.760 --> 1:42:46.000 on Android and on iPhones pass keys are kind of 1:42:46.040 --> 1:42:49.280 like slowly trickling out. And what those are basically a 1:42:49.320 --> 1:42:53.760 passwordless login that ties your device that you're logging in 1:42:53.840 --> 1:42:57.560 from to the account, so there's no password. It authenticates 1:42:57.600 --> 1:43:00.920 through like your phone, So if you aren't to log 1:43:00.960 --> 1:43:03.160 in from a computer, you'd actually have to tap a 1:43:03.200 --> 1:43:07.200 thing on your phone, which is great for security. It 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:09.720 you know, there might be privacy implications with that in 1:43:09.760 --> 1:43:13.200 the future, but again it's kind of like the less 1:43:13.360 --> 1:43:16.760 the fewer people who are using reused passwords everywhere, the better. 1:43:16.920 --> 1:43:17.120 Yeah. 1:43:17.160 --> 1:43:20.400 So, and I've noticed that Google and you know with this, 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:22.960 uh even I don't know how they do it, but 1:43:23.000 --> 1:43:25.759 it's like the they're asking you to like tap something 1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:28.080 on a different device that you own sometimes when you 1:43:28.120 --> 1:43:30.400 log into your account, which is kind of like getting 1:43:30.439 --> 1:43:32.240 around those you know, they used to send one time 1:43:32.280 --> 1:43:35.080 passcodes to your phone and now it's like they're they're 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:37.120 figuring out like, Okay, this might be a more secure 1:43:37.160 --> 1:43:39.680 way of doing Basically, these tech companies are learning how 1:43:39.720 --> 1:43:43.160 to protect our They're learning to protect us from ourselves 1:43:43.160 --> 1:43:46.120 because we don't even know what these what we're up against. 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:50.160 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Google prompts are sometimes baffling, but 1:43:50.200 --> 1:43:51.960 I do think that they are they're good at the 1:43:51.960 --> 1:43:53.400 long run. Even if you're like, you want me to 1:43:53.400 --> 1:43:54.720 tap on YouTube ware on. 1:43:54.720 --> 1:43:55.960 What what are you talking about? 1:43:56.120 --> 1:43:57.880 Well, I'm sure you have a bunch of devices like 1:43:57.920 --> 1:43:59.599 I do. It's always the one device that I either 1:43:59.640 --> 1:44:01.960 don't have near me or I haven't used in a while. 1:44:01.960 --> 1:44:03.680 I'm like, why are you asking about that device? Like, 1:44:03.680 --> 1:44:06.280 why not the iPad that's like sitting right here next 1:44:06.280 --> 1:44:06.479 to me? 1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:07.639 All right? 1:44:08.120 --> 1:44:13.599 Thorn Clozowski from Wirecutter Security Expert tell folks how they 1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:16.280 can find you and the stuff that you write about. 1:44:17.520 --> 1:44:20.479 Yeah, you can find everything on wirecutter dot com. If 1:44:20.479 --> 1:44:22.720 you click around on any of the electronic stuff, you'll 1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:25.519 inevitably come across one of the variety of privacy and 1:44:25.520 --> 1:44:28.479 security guides that we have for helping you secure your 1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:29.040 whole life. 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:31.600 All right, Thanks, So much for helping us demystify the 1:44:31.640 --> 1:44:33.600 world of password managers. 1:44:33.920 --> 1:44:34.160 Again. 1:44:34.200 --> 1:44:38.160 The recommendations are one password if you want a paid option, 1:44:38.479 --> 1:44:42.160 and bitwarden if you want something that's free. Or of 1:44:42.200 --> 1:44:44.040 course you can just use the built in stuff if 1:44:44.040 --> 1:44:46.519 you want to do that and just take the easier 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.800 way out of things. All right, coming up, got a 1:44:48.800 --> 1:44:50.720 couple of things before we close out the show. I'm 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:53.360 going to tell you about di iPhone Clean Energy Charging. 1:44:53.800 --> 1:44:55.120 We're going to tell you why people are up in 1:44:55.200 --> 1:44:58.040 arms about that. I'm gonna give you the feedback on 1:44:58.200 --> 1:45:00.680 last week's show. Some of the emails like plus a 1:45:00.680 --> 1:45:06.200 website that uses chat GPT to come up with travel itineraries. 1:45:06.240 --> 1:45:08.400 It's pretty cool. It's all coming up right here on 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:11.639 rich on Tech. You are listening to me, Rich DeMuro. 1:45:12.600 --> 1:45:15.200 We'll be back in a bit. Welcome back to rich 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:21.080 on Tech. Rich DeMuro here. So, if you're on social 1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:23.720 media at all, over the next couple of days, you 1:45:23.800 --> 1:45:28.880 might see some folks complaining about an iPhone feature called 1:45:29.560 --> 1:45:34.520 iPhone Clean Energy Charging. People are complaining that their iPhones 1:45:34.640 --> 1:45:37.760 are charging slower, and it's all due to this new 1:45:37.800 --> 1:45:40.160 feature that Apple snuck onto the iPhone. 1:45:40.520 --> 1:45:41.559 Well, they didn't sneak it in. 1:45:41.600 --> 1:45:44.080 It's a feature they talked about and it's in iOS 1:45:44.160 --> 1:45:46.880 sixteen point one and it came out in October. But 1:45:46.920 --> 1:45:50.920 people are just noticing it. But the reality is, yes, 1:45:51.000 --> 1:45:53.160 it may charge your phone a little bit differently. 1:45:53.360 --> 1:45:55.400 Is it slower? I don't know. 1:45:56.160 --> 1:45:58.120 So let me tell you what's going on here. There's 1:45:58.120 --> 1:46:03.759 a setting inside the battery settings on the iPhone that's 1:46:03.840 --> 1:46:07.760 on by default called clean Energy Charging. And what this 1:46:07.880 --> 1:46:11.840 does is it kind of recognizes the patterns of how 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:15.280 you charge your phone, and it looks for efficiencies, and 1:46:15.560 --> 1:46:19.679 most notably, it tries to charge your phone more when 1:46:19.800 --> 1:46:21.960 clean energy sources are available. 1:46:22.840 --> 1:46:23.599 What does that mean. 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:26.040 It means that it looks where you're charging your phone, 1:46:26.760 --> 1:46:29.720 and if it notices that clean energy you plug your 1:46:29.720 --> 1:46:32.400 phone in at eight pm and clean energy starts at nine, 1:46:33.000 --> 1:46:36.599 it will try to focus more on charging starting at nine. 1:46:36.600 --> 1:46:39.800 Now that's a very simplified way of explaining it. But 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:43.200 the reality is a couple things. Number One, your phone 1:46:43.240 --> 1:46:46.960 is always going to charge, and this should be invisible 1:46:47.000 --> 1:46:49.400 to the end user, so you should never really notice 1:46:49.439 --> 1:46:53.800 that this is happening. Apple is only doing this when 1:46:53.840 --> 1:46:57.160 you are at your home area, like an area where 1:46:57.160 --> 1:46:58.680 you charge your phone a loss. So let me give 1:46:58.680 --> 1:47:01.719 you an example. If you plug in your phone every 1:47:01.800 --> 1:47:05.719 night at six pm and you wake up, well, let's 1:47:05.760 --> 1:47:07.920 make it later nine pm, and you wake up every 1:47:07.960 --> 1:47:10.960 day at five am. Apple knows that you charge your 1:47:10.960 --> 1:47:12.880 phone because they look at I think they tell you 1:47:12.880 --> 1:47:16.320 how many days they look at your charging activity. It 1:47:16.400 --> 1:47:20.439 learns your activities over a certain period of time. And 1:47:20.479 --> 1:47:22.720 this is all spelled out by the way on the 1:47:23.240 --> 1:47:24.000 Apple website. 1:47:24.080 --> 1:47:24.840 Oh yeah, it. 1:47:24.720 --> 1:47:29.280 Needs fourteen days to learn your charging habits, and it 1:47:29.320 --> 1:47:32.639 also needs to experience nine charges of at least five 1:47:32.680 --> 1:47:36.080 hours or more in a given location for this to engage. 1:47:36.360 --> 1:47:38.880 So it's not something that just happens the first time 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:41.880 you plug in your phone. It's something that over time, 1:47:41.920 --> 1:47:44.559 your phone will notice your patterns and say, oh, we 1:47:44.600 --> 1:47:47.280 can save some energy or save some you know, save 1:47:47.320 --> 1:47:49.720 the environment by doing this in a little bit of 1:47:49.760 --> 1:47:52.519 a different way. Now, a lot of these articles are 1:47:52.600 --> 1:47:55.120 suggesting that you turn this feature off. I don't think 1:47:55.120 --> 1:47:58.400 you should turn this off. Apple has millions upon millions 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:01.479 of iPhones getting charged charged every single day in the US. 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:05.400 If they can maybe change and affect the environment in 1:48:05.479 --> 1:48:06.680 just one percent. 1:48:06.400 --> 1:48:07.200 With these phones. 1:48:07.560 --> 1:48:11.880 That's a good thing to reduce the environmental impact. So 1:48:12.120 --> 1:48:14.519 you can opt out if you want, But I think 1:48:14.560 --> 1:48:17.160 that the bottom line is you shouldn't even notice that 1:48:17.280 --> 1:48:19.240 this is happening on your phone, and Apple even spells 1:48:19.280 --> 1:48:22.320 out if you do notice that they're you. You plug 1:48:22.360 --> 1:48:24.680 in your phone and you get a notification on your 1:48:24.680 --> 1:48:28.880 lock screen that says energy clean energy charging is in 1:48:28.920 --> 1:48:31.960 effect and your charging is suspended. All you have to 1:48:32.000 --> 1:48:35.719 do is press a hold on that notification and click 1:48:36.320 --> 1:48:39.600 or tap charge now, and your phone will start charging immediately. 1:48:39.800 --> 1:48:41.920 But the reality is, if you're traveling, if you're in 1:48:41.920 --> 1:48:44.000 a hotel room, if you're anywhere else, it's not going 1:48:44.080 --> 1:48:45.680 to activate. It's only when you're at your home and 1:48:45.680 --> 1:48:48.880 you plug in basically before bed. So anyway, there's a 1:48:48.920 --> 1:48:50.679 lot of to do about that for nothing, I think, 1:48:51.360 --> 1:48:55.240 all right, let's see John and Appleton Wisconsin says your 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:58.800 information is topical and relevant. This the feedback section, by 1:48:58.800 --> 1:49:02.200 the way, for the tech newbie, and I enjoy your 1:49:02.280 --> 1:49:06.160 choice of guests. When you mentioned an app or a website, 1:49:06.400 --> 1:49:09.040 would you mind including the spelling. So many app developers 1:49:09.120 --> 1:49:10.920 take a common word and put their own unique spin 1:49:11.000 --> 1:49:13.080 on it. It would make searching less frustrating and keep 1:49:13.120 --> 1:49:17.000 up the good work. Absolutely, that's a great idea. 1:49:17.479 --> 1:49:18.639 Oh, I forgot to mention. 1:49:18.680 --> 1:49:20.880 I want to mention this website which I will spell 1:49:21.680 --> 1:49:25.639 Roam around dot Io. This is a website that uses 1:49:25.760 --> 1:49:30.200 chat gpt to come up with itineraries for travel, and 1:49:30.280 --> 1:49:33.919 so I just typed in Portland going on March twelfth 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:36.439 and staying for two nights, and it came up with 1:49:36.520 --> 1:49:39.879 a whole itinerary. Start your day off at the Portland 1:49:39.960 --> 1:49:43.479 Japanese Garden, then go to Powell City of Books, then 1:49:43.560 --> 1:49:46.240 go to the Saturday Market, then go to the Museum 1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:49.439 of Science and Industry, then have dinner at Lee Pete 1:49:50.240 --> 1:49:54.920 looks like Pigeon. I'm guessing is Les Pijon. Okay, that's 1:49:54.960 --> 1:49:58.679 a place. Day two, go to the go to the Mansion, 1:49:59.040 --> 1:50:02.320 then Voodoo donat, than the Art Museum, than Washington Park 1:50:02.920 --> 1:50:06.280 and then I guess get out of there anyway. So 1:50:06.479 --> 1:50:10.719 cool Roam around dot Io is the website chat gpt 1:50:10.880 --> 1:50:14.760 has just single handedly changed everything about how we do 1:50:14.800 --> 1:50:18.439 stuff online. And we are just beginning to see this stuff. 1:50:19.520 --> 1:50:22.920 Folks from Roam around dot Io told me that in launch. 1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:25.400 They've seen fifty to one hundred and fifty thousand visits 1:50:25.400 --> 1:50:29.479 per day, generating two hundred thousand itineraries in one day. 1:50:30.280 --> 1:50:32.600 And they're gonna come up with some updates that let 1:50:32.680 --> 1:50:34.799 you do some fun stuff too, if you want maybe 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:38.240 Doctor Seuss to write your itinerary, or you know, get 1:50:38.240 --> 1:50:41.200 an email itinerary. But anyway, a roam around that dot io. 1:50:41.320 --> 1:50:43.440 If you're looking to plan your summer. 1:50:43.160 --> 1:50:44.920 Travel, check it out. Kind of cool. 1:50:46.200 --> 1:50:48.759 All right, Now back to the feedback segment Chris Hoover. 1:50:49.760 --> 1:50:52.640 Chris says, in regards to the radio show question involving 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:56.559 multiple computers with one keyboard and mouse, the Logitech MK 1:50:56.760 --> 1:51:00.240 eight fifty combo can control three computers, one with a 1:51:00.280 --> 1:51:03.320 dongle too with the keyboard keyboard layout is also set 1:51:03.400 --> 1:51:06.000 up for Mac and Windows computers. Chris says, thanks for 1:51:06.040 --> 1:51:08.840 all the info each week. And finally, I got so 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:12.080 much feedback on the question about a camera in a 1:51:12.080 --> 1:51:14.400 remote area. I'm not gonna read through all these, but basically, 1:51:14.439 --> 1:51:19.160 a trailcam is what the caller needs. A trailcam has 1:51:19.760 --> 1:51:23.920 sensor activated recording and is solar powered as well. So 1:51:24.840 --> 1:51:27.680 this is a remote camera that does not need an 1:51:27.760 --> 1:51:32.000 internet connection to record, battery powered, waterproof, all that good stuff. 1:51:32.040 --> 1:51:34.080 Thanks for all the feedback on that. If you can 1:51:34.120 --> 1:51:36.080 believe it, that is going to do it for this 1:51:36.120 --> 1:51:38.439 episode of the show. Thanks so much for listening. Next week, 1:51:38.600 --> 1:51:41.320 I'm gonna take a ride in a Lucid electric car. 1:51:41.760 --> 1:51:44.080 You can find me on social media at rich on tech, 1:51:44.120 --> 1:51:47.880 the website rich on tech dot TV. My name is 1:51:47.960 --> 1:51:50.160 rich Demiro. Thanks so much for listening. There are so 1:51:50.240 --> 1:51:52.960 many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate 1:51:53.000 --> 1:51:55.920 you spending it right here with me. Definitely check out 1:51:55.960 --> 1:51:58.920 my website to see my TV segments. 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