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Speaker 3: Hi Rich, thank you for taking my call. My question

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything goes through that same line at this point.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not a problem. I was concerned if it's

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Speaker 1: extra month. You know why, no reason. Verizon just wants

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Speaker 1: Rich on Tech. My name is rich Deburo, hanging out

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Speaker 1: here with you talking technology, and now we are going

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Speaker 1: this week. Matt Swider is founder and editor chief of

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Speaker 1: The Shortcut, which is a newsletter that covers consumer tech

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Speaker 1: news and deals. He's known for helping people track down

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Speaker 2: Matt, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on, Rich it's really great to

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Speaker 1: How so was Mobile World Congress. We'll explain what it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it does confuse people because it sounds political, but

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Speaker 5: it is anything. But it is a tech show where

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Speaker 5: a lot of smartphone manufacturers gather and announce new smartphones

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Speaker 5: There's phones, there's mobile devices, there's tablets, and there's the

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Speaker 5: coolest thing I saw, which is rollable phone. So it's

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Speaker 1: when it's not rolled out, and it's just it's because

436
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Speaker 1: this is a thing like I you know, I've been testing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure like you have the S twenty three Ultra

438
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Speaker 1: from Samsung, and I love, love, love the big screen size,

439
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Speaker 1: but I just can't stand the fact that the thing

440
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Speaker 1: does not fit in my pocket, especially with a case

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Speaker 1: on it. So I think in the future we're going

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Speaker 1: to have these phones that are a lot smaller, but

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Speaker 1: once they figure out these screens, they'll effectively be a

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Speaker 1: larger screen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And you know, everybody wants the best best of

447
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Speaker 5: both worlds. They want, you know, a phone that they

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Speaker 5: can hold, especially walking down the street. When I'm walking

449
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Speaker 5: in New York City and you know, something that you

450
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Speaker 5: can grasp, it's so one bumps into. But at the

451
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Speaker 5: same time, when you sit down the subway, when you're

452
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Speaker 5: on an airplane, you want to carry around that tablet

453
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Speaker 5: but not have to carry around necessarily a bag with

454
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Speaker 5: you every time. You want to slip that into your pocket.

455
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Speaker 5: So I think, you know, foldal phones going completely mainstream

456
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Speaker 5: is a little ways off, but I think it's inevitable

457
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Speaker 5: because we want the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this, uh, this one plus

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Speaker 1: concept phone. So one plus I mean they really try,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean they've they've really really tried to

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Speaker 1: make inroads here in the US. It's it's been tough,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they do have some partners. They've worked

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Speaker 1: with T Mobile in the past. Tell me about what

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Speaker 1: they've showed off this concept phone.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what's interesting about this is, you know, with

466
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Speaker 5: all the foldso phones, but there's in traditional candybar style phones,

467
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Speaker 5: there's almost a renewed focus on design and the back

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Speaker 5: of the phone. So what once Us did is they

469
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Speaker 5: introduced something called the one plus eleven concept and it

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Speaker 5: took a lot of what we like about the one

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Speaker 5: plus eleven and they gave it lights on the back

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Speaker 5: with these halou halo lighting and it almost looks like

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Speaker 5: a gaming PC case and they have liquid cooling on

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Speaker 5: the back, again like a gaming PC. And you know,

475
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Speaker 5: so gaming pieces are over the top. They have led

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Speaker 5: lights everywhere. Their high performance and that's what they're trying

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Speaker 5: to mimic, and they're usually you know, that's a one

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Speaker 5: plus of a company known for coming in at a

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Speaker 5: low price but still having top of the line spec.

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Speaker 5: So I think that is what their main asset is

481
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Speaker 5: and it's this design, whether or not it comes out,

482
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Speaker 5: is very over the top, like almost like you see

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Speaker 5: at car shows where there's a concept car that you

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Speaker 5: may or may not be able to buy one day,

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Speaker 5: but it's the company pushing the envelope. Phone companies are

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Speaker 5: doing the same thing, and that's what Mobile Congress is

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Speaker 5: all about.

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Speaker 1: It's all about capturing that attention as well. We're speaking

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Speaker 1: with Matt Swider. He is editor of the Shortcut dot com.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and subscribe to his newsletter. Matt is actually

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Speaker 1: living the American dream. You were an editor at a

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Speaker 1: big publication and you kind of found a cool little

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Speaker 1: niche of of helping people with their technology and specifically

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Speaker 1: finding hard to find products like the PS five. You

495
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Speaker 1: gained many, many, many followers enough so that you could

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Speaker 1: go out on your own and start your own newsletter,

497
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Speaker 1: and so pretty cool that you've been able to do that.

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Speaker 1: And Matt is in Barcelona, Spain for Mobile World Congress.

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Speaker 1: And tell me about the two hundred and forty watch charging.

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Speaker 1: So I never think my phone charge is fast enough.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this, right.

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Speaker 5: So if you have ten minutes, you could have a

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Speaker 5: full battery with the real me phone. It has two

504
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Speaker 5: hundred forty watt charging, which I think it's part of

505
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Speaker 5: a greater segment at MOELL Congress where it's almost like

506
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Speaker 5: part of the emergency tech line. That's how we kind

507
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Speaker 5: of phrase it and kind of gave it an award

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Speaker 5: for that with the Shortcut Awards, Because if you're in

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Speaker 5: a pinch, and we've all been there where you just

510
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Speaker 5: need a couple extra minutes of battery life, where a

511
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Speaker 5: text or you're trying to call an uber, you're just

512
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Speaker 5: trying to get home. This can get you to a

513
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Speaker 5: full battery in under ten minutes, which is astounding, and

514
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Speaker 5: just getting a couple seconds of you know, a charge

515
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Speaker 5: will go a long way. So I think, once again,

516
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Speaker 5: you may or may not buy this real needs phone,

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Speaker 5: but you know it pushes all their manufacturers. That's right,

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Speaker 5: all right, Well we need more than twenty five watch

519
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Speaker 5: charging and by watch charging.

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Speaker 1: So this is what I think it's all about. It's

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I hate to keep you know, harping

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Speaker 1: on the Apple effect of all this stuff, and I

523
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Speaker 1: get it. When you're outside the US, like in Spain,

524
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Speaker 1: I bet you see more people using Android than they

525
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Speaker 1: do iPhone, you know, except for the Americans that are

526
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Speaker 1: there for this conference, And so when you travel around

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Speaker 1: the world you realize that, like, yes, iPhone is very

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Speaker 1: very popular in the US, and it's popular worldwide, but

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Speaker 1: Android definitely has more of an impact in a greater

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Speaker 1: way around the world. And I think that a lot

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Speaker 1: of these changes and a lot of these advancements just

532
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Speaker 1: kind of force Apple's hand. They do things, like you said,

533
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Speaker 1: a little bit slower, a little bit later, but they've

534
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Speaker 1: got to get their charging faster. I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: the iPhone charges the slowest out of any phone I test.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we really want to see USBC from the

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Speaker 5: next iPhone, the iPhone fifteen, which you know everybody thinks

538
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Speaker 5: is going to come in September, just like the usual

539
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Speaker 5: cadence and USB C would be really much a benefit

540
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Speaker 5: of carrier on one less type of table when I travel,

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Speaker 5: And that's gonna be nice. And like you said, it's

542
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Speaker 5: all about the company's pushing the Apples and the Samsungs

543
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Speaker 5: into adopting technology faster at a better price. There was

544
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Speaker 5: a company called Techno that has a phone, a foldable

545
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Speaker 5: tablet size foldable phone called the Techno Phantom V and

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Speaker 5: it's targeting India. But it's the equivalent price for launch

547
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Speaker 5: is nine hundred and seventy nine dollars. Now Samsung is

548
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Speaker 5: charging you know, eighteen hundred for their foldable phone, and

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Speaker 5: you know Samsung is over the has the best spec

550
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Speaker 5: compared to the film. But you know the fact that

551
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Speaker 5: someone is coming out with like a foldable film that

552
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Speaker 5: looks like a flagship phone for under one thousand dollars,

553
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Speaker 5: that's just going to push the competition to do better.

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Speaker 5: And I really kind of almost appreciate that, even though

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Speaker 5: you know, we may not see those phones on the

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Speaker 5: streets of the US.

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Speaker 2: All right, Matt, was it fun this year?

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Speaker 1: I've got about a minute here to say goodbye, But

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Speaker 1: did you have fun this year? And it was it

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Speaker 1: different to be on your own this year than working

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Speaker 1: for sort of like an editor in years past.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a bunch of fun because it felt like,

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Speaker 5: you know, the whole conferences we go to are back

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Speaker 5: like CES was this year in January. We have you know,

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Speaker 5: Mobile Congress in late February. It was nice to kind

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Speaker 5: of get back to that routine. And also, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm handling all the awards stuff. We gave out a

568
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Speaker 5: bunch of awards, so I'm handling the design of the award,

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Speaker 5: getting it in, shipping it, bring it with me in

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Speaker 5: my suitcase. So that is a lot of fun to

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Speaker 5: kind of be have a bunch of hats and be

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Speaker 5: the death of world trade and hire a bunch of

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Speaker 5: friends to make that happen.

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Speaker 6: So that's kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: And I will say in your latest newsletter at the

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Speaker 1: shortcut dot com, I was very impressed that you were

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Speaker 1: able to get a picture with all of the award

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Speaker 1: winners that you gave out, which is no easy feat

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Speaker 1: because sometimes these companies can be tough to track down.

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Speaker 1: So congrats and thanks and have fun. I assume you're

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Speaker 1: going to spend the rest of the weekend in Barcelona.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'm in like a little highland off of Spain.

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Speaker 5: But Rich, I always appreciate the support that you've given

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Speaker 5: me over the year, so thank you for having me

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Speaker 5: on and the continued support.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Matt Swider, thanks so much for joining me.

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 1: on tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My name

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Speaker 1: is rich Demiro. We are talking technology and taking your

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Speaker 1: richon tech dot TV. Mike is in Denver. Mike, you

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Speaker 1: are on with Rich. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Rich?

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Speaker 7: It's so good to talk to you. This is my

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Speaker 7: first time calling into your show. I used to call

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Speaker 7: into Leo's show. But I just want to tell you

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Speaker 7: thank you for the job you've been doing. You bring

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Speaker 7: a lot to the show. You're very articulate, you're very thoughtful,

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Speaker 7: you talk about things analytically, and it's just a pleasure

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Speaker 7: to listen to you. So thank you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, keep going. I love it well.

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Speaker 7: I was actually going to ask you. I know you

609
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Speaker 7: started out in TV. Was radio ever something you were

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Speaker 7: interested in?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Always? I loved Ray.

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Speaker 1: I grew up out outside New York City with the

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Speaker 1: flagship Z one hundred station, which you know, I know

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Speaker 1: that that's not necessarily talk radio, but they had Morning Zoo,

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Speaker 1: and I just loved, you know, these big booming voices

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Speaker 1: and these people with these amazing names, right like mister

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Speaker 1: Leonard and Professor Jonathan B.

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Speaker 2: Bell.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just really had an impact. Elvis Duran,

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Speaker 1: I mean, oh my gosh, just so amazing, and so

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Speaker 1: I you know, I just loved it. And radio reaches

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Speaker 1: people in a way that. You know, TV is very unique,

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Speaker 1: but radio is also very very unique, and so I've

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Speaker 1: had a love for both. It's always been a dream

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Speaker 1: to do radio, and I took me many, many years

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Speaker 1: to figure out how to do both. But here I am,

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Speaker 1: and so I've got the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 7: Mike, Yeah, absolutely. Well, before I get to my question,

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Speaker 7: I got to tell you, you know, I'm twenty six

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Speaker 7: years old and for some reason, I always connected more

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Speaker 7: to talk radio growing up. You know, most kids it

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Speaker 7: was television or video games. Was for some reason with me,

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Speaker 7: it was always talk radio. So I had the great

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Speaker 7: pleasure to call in with Leo Laporte several times in

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Speaker 7: George Nori over the years. And I love red you.

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Speaker 7: But so my question for you, I've been thinking about

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Speaker 7: trying to learn a new language. I've been looking at,

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Speaker 7: you know, like a number of different apps. Dual Lingo

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Speaker 7: is one of the apps specifically I've been looking at.

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Speaker 7: And I actually spoke with Kim, your producer call Screener,

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Speaker 7: and she said it was a really good app. And

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Speaker 7: I was wondering if you had any recommendations on apps

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Speaker 7: to help teach new languages.

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Speaker 2: Great question, what language are you trying to.

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Speaker 7: Learn I'm trying to learn Spanish.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's that's an I mean I would say

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Speaker 1: that's an. I mean it's an easy one because they

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Speaker 1: all probably offer this, but I'm not I've tried learning

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Speaker 1: Spanish many, many years and just for some reason, and

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced some people's brains are just wired differently where

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Speaker 1: and mine is one of them where I just can't

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Like I took Spanish for so many

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Speaker 1: years and I can't say anything in Spanish so sadly.

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Speaker 1: In fact, dual Lingo is one of the apps that

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Speaker 1: I tried to use to learn Spanish, and and I'm

657
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: not kidding, dual Lingo started getting angry with me the

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Speaker 1: notifications that this app started sending to me. I was like,

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Speaker 1: is there a person behind this app? Because they were

660
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Speaker 1: just mean. It was like, Okay, we see that you

661
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: really don't care about this. We're just gonna stop sending these.

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00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, okay. With that said, if you

663
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Speaker 1: are trying to learn Spanish, many many apps can do this.

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Speaker 1: I really have the most experience with dual Lingo, but

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Speaker 1: I think there's many apps out there that can also

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Speaker 1: teach you a language, and I think what it really

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Speaker 1: comes down to is kind of comparing some of these

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Speaker 1: apps and seeing which one works best for you. So

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Speaker 1: there is an app that's called Memorize m Rise, and

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to see if they offer Spanish, and sure

671
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Speaker 1: enough they do. They offer Spanish, Mexico and Spain, so

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Speaker 1: I guess you get the two different dialects. And this

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Speaker 1: one is, you know, it's very similar to the way

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Speaker 1: that dual Lingo works, but this one looks like it's

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Speaker 1: much more video example based, so it uses video examples

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Speaker 1: of language used in real life. And so each one

677
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: of these little lessons incorporates videos, and it's like a like,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the demo here and it says do

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Speaker 1: you have Wi Fi? And the person will say it,

680
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: and then it kind of breaks down how to say that.

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Speaker 1: That's a very important thing to know as you travel.

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Speaker 1: So that's Memorized Memorize dot com. Then there's an app

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Speaker 1: called Lingo deer l I n g O d E

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Speaker 1: E R. And it's just so interesting how all these

685
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Speaker 1: apps come up with these funny different names. This was

686
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Speaker 1: a Google Play Editor's Choice of twenty nineteen. An available

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Speaker 1: both on iOS and Android and Lingo Deer is not

688
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Speaker 1: sure if they are going to offer the language you need,

689
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: though this looks like it's Japanese, Korean, and Mandarin, and

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Speaker 1: so let's see do oh they do have Spanish on here. Okay,

691
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: you can learn Spanish, and this one will go through

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Speaker 1: the basics alphabet, food and drink, questions, plural numbers, greetings,

693
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: and it looks like it's kind of gamified, and so

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00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: this will lead you along learning Spanish sort of through

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Speaker 1: a game. And that one is again called Lingo Dear.

696
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Speaker 1: Then we've got an app called Hello Talk, and Hello

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00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: Talk is different. I think I actually did a segment

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Speaker 1: on this with Ktla. This is an app that links

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00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: you up with a native speaker. And so this is

700
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Speaker 1: kind of cool because you are actually chatting with someone

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Speaker 1: that speaks that language somewhere in the world and they've

702
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: got one hundred and fifty languages thirty million people to

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Speaker 1: chat with. And again, I think this one is probably

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Speaker 1: going to cost some money because you are almost with

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Speaker 1: a you know, a native speaker that is, you know,

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Speaker 1: taking time out of their day to actually chat with

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Speaker 1: you and help you understand this. But that's kind of

708
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: a cool way of doing it. It's again called hellotalk

709
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Speaker 1: dot com, a little bit of a different approach than

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Speaker 1: something like duolingo.

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Speaker 2: And then the two other.

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Speaker 1: Ones that you've probably heard of, which are very similar

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Speaker 1: in scope to dual Lingo Rosetta Stone. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: remember Rosetta being in the kiosk at the mall growing up.

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00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, so this has been around forever. In fact,

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Speaker 1: here's what it says, for nearly thirty years, learners have

717
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: turned to Rosetta Stone to build their fluency. And so

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Speaker 1: Rosetta Stone is more about audio. And so I've never

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Speaker 1: taken these courses, but these are I believe, audio courses

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Speaker 1: that can really help you learn the language. And again

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a paid thing. They may have

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Speaker 1: a free version, but I think that it's mostly paid

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Speaker 1: at this point. And they do support at a lot

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Speaker 1: of languages. And finally, I think probably the one that's

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Speaker 1: going to be the most closest to duo Lingo is

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Speaker 1: babbel be a bb el dot com and they do

727
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: have Spanish. And again this is going to be more

728
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: of a subscription based but it's got app based lessons

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00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: and it's ten minutes a day. That's what they say

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Speaker 1: and you know what, Mike, I think you've inspired me

731
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: to really try to learn a different language. The problem

732
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: is I sign up for these, I get them on

733
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: my phone, and then what do I do? I surf Instagram,

734
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: I surf YouTube shorts, I go on my Twitter, I

735
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: go on my Facebook and anything besides learning the language.

736
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: I need to put my time into myself sometimes. So

737
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn a new language along with you. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: those apps helped. Good question enjoy Spanish? All right, coming up,

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the low tech iPhone hack for

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Speaker 1: your past coode and more of your calls. At Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one on one. You are listening to rich

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Speaker 1: DeMuro here on rich On tech Man. Where is the

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00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: time going? First hour of the show already in the

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00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: can Now we're into hour number two. I feel like

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00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: someone has just taken my time and just like spun

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Speaker 1: it fast. Like it's just like like someone advanced it.

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00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening anyway, Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: the show. If you want to give me a call,

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Speaker 1: it's triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four to one zero zero one.

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Speaker 1: A couple things. First off, got a lot of feedback

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: from last week's show, So people listen to the show.

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: Maybe on the podcast you can search Rich on tech

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00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: to find that to listen later. But people listen to that,

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00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: and then they email me and they say, Hey, Rich,

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00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: I have an answer, like an additional answer for a

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00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: question that you got. And so I got a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of those from last week, So I'll talk about that.

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00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: What else, Oh, I just got a whole bunch of

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00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: people saying, Rich, which CPK did you work at? So

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that out of all my gig economy talk,

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: the CBK people just want to know I worked at

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Speaker 1: the one in Santa Monica. And in fact, the reason

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00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: why I tried to get a job at CBK is

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00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: because I and this probably goes to show my character,

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's the easiest job you can do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're literally serving pizzas. What could be easier?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Well, little did I know the training process at CBK

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: was so intense. It went from like three hundred people

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00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: to one hundred people to like the opening crew of

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Speaker 1: like fifty of us or whatever it was, And it

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Speaker 1: was like eight weeks of training, and you had to

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Speaker 1: know that menu inside and out. You had to try

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Speaker 1: every single food, every single pizza, which I loved and

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Speaker 1: I learned so much in that, not just about customer service,

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Speaker 1: but opening up a restaurant. We open up a brand

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Speaker 1: new location and it was I mean, I think even

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Speaker 1: the founders were there. I mean, it was just such

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00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: a great experience and something that really has stuck with

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Speaker 1: me for not just that part of my life, but

782
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: in almost so many aspects of what I expect when

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Speaker 1: I go to restaurants and how I deal with waiters

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Speaker 1: and service industry folks, and so anyway, it was a

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Speaker 1: really really great experience. So maybe in your history you

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Speaker 1: had Rich on tech Serview at CBK and Santa Monica.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe in Indianapolis, Indiana. Joe, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich. Hey Rich, I am doing great, Joe, what's

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Speaker 1: up good?

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Speaker 8: I had a question. I know you have two kids

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Speaker 8: at home, and I think I've live them two or

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Speaker 8: three radio shows ago. You said talking about your youngest

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Speaker 8: eight year old hacking in your YouTube. Oh yeah, and

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Speaker 8: I think you had some sort of internet filter, as

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Speaker 8: I remember you saying.

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Speaker 9: So what one do use?

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Speaker 8: That's basically my question, what internet filters do you recommend

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Speaker 8: for kids?

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Speaker 2: Good question, Joe. I have a question for you, though,

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Speaker 2: how old are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm actually ten. You're show I love technology.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now do your parents allow you to have free

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Speaker 1: reign on the web or what are you going to

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Speaker 1: put these filters in on your and yourself or what

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Speaker 1: are you trying to stay a step ahead of your parents?

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Speaker 10: I'm pretty ahead of my parents.

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Speaker 1: To be honest. Yeah, I think I think most kids are,

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Speaker 1: including mine, in some ways. And I'll tell you, Joe,

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Speaker 1: a couple things. So number one, I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: older than you, and so I know that a lot

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Speaker 1: of these filters and things are there for your own good,

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Speaker 1: because some kids can't control themselves when it comes to

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Speaker 1: the amount of time they spend online. And I have

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Speaker 1: two different kids. One kid is very much you know,

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Speaker 1: he's fine. He goes online, he does his thing, He

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Speaker 1: kind of stays within the guardrails, and everything's good. When

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Speaker 1: you tell him, hey, it's time to stop playing or

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Speaker 1: stop doing this, it's fine. I've got another kid who

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Speaker 1: is just a little bit different in that aspect, and

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Speaker 1: he likes to push me to the limits and so

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Speaker 1: he likes to push the limits also about what he

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Speaker 1: can do on there. So today, for instance, he found

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Speaker 1: YouTube back on our main TV because my wife and

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Speaker 1: I were watching some travel videos. We're researching trips, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we had to put YouTube back on there.

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Speaker 1: And of course he finds it in about two seconds,

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Speaker 1: even though I put it all the way down at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the list of apps on our Apple DV.

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Speaker 1: He scrolls down and finds it and he starts watching.

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Speaker 1: And then he was watching YouTube last night and he said,

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Speaker 1: he said, hey, I noticed that YouTube now has a

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Speaker 1: kids version on the app on smart TVs, and so

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Speaker 1: I said, that's great because now you can log in

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Speaker 1: with your account and watch YouTube. He said, well, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to because they don't do shorts on

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Speaker 1: YouTube kids. And I said, yes, there's a reason why

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Speaker 1: they don't do YouTube shorts on kids because YouTube shorts

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be watched by kids. There's so much stuff on

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Speaker 1: there that's just not very appropriate, and so I think

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Speaker 1: it's tougher for them to kind of filter through those

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Speaker 1: things on YouTube shorts for kids, which is why the

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Speaker 1: YouTube Kids app doesn't offer that. Anyway, Joe, I tell

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Speaker 1: you all this stuff because first off, I want you

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Speaker 1: to stay tuned, which I know you will. We've got

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Speaker 1: a guest coming up at around half of the hour

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Speaker 1: and she's going to talk about Internet filtering with a

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Speaker 1: system called Bark, and that's one of them I've been

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Speaker 1: testing out, but I think there's three main ones that

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Speaker 1: I like. Bark is one of them, and this is

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Speaker 1: a service that can filter not only smartphones, but also

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Speaker 1: set time limits and filters on your home Internet. There's

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Speaker 1: also one called Circle cr CLEE and Circle was actually

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00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: started with Disney, and it was Circle with Disney and

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00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: then they kind of branched off did their own thing.

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Speaker 1: And so Circle is a physical kind of device you

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Speaker 1: can connect to your router and it will filter everything

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Speaker 1: on the network as well. And also there's just screen

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Speaker 1: time limits and also Android has their parntal controls. I

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Speaker 1: think it's called Family Time and or Family Link, and

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Speaker 1: so you can do that as well. Now I use

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Speaker 1: a combination of these things because I test a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff out in my home. So I've tried out Bark,

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Speaker 1: I have tried out Circle, I use screen Time, and

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Speaker 1: I also use the Family Link and also Microsoft has

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Speaker 1: their own if you use Microsoft devices, they have their

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Speaker 1: own prontal controls as well. And as you might imagine, Joe,

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Speaker 1: my kids do not like me testing all of these

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Speaker 1: things because they don't like any of them. And I

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00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: get it, and I think that sometimes this stuff is

871
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: so complicated to set up and keep running that parents

872
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: just give up and they let their kids have free rein.

873
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: And you know, if your kid is like my older kid,

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Speaker 1: and they're okay with hey, it's time to be done

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00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: with the iPad and you know, watch a movie or

876
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: whatever or read a book, that's fine. But when you

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00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: have kids like my other kid, who is a little

878
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: bit more kind of like I want to be on

879
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: this all day every day, it's tougher. And so sometimes

880
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: we have to, you know, do things to protect these

881
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: kids from themselves. And I think, Titanya, we'll talk about

882
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Speaker 1: that coming up a little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 1: But Joe, I think you sound like a pretty good kid.

884
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Speaker 1: So I think that you're gonna help your parents set

885
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: these internet filters for yourself or just provide your own guardrails.

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00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: Is that true?

887
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 8: I probably actually will help them set it up.

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00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: Probably will show your parents if you can figure out

890
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Speaker 1: screen time, help your parents with that one, because that's

891
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: that's the one I think if you have iOS devices,

892
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: is probably a good starter, right, all right, thanks for

893
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: listening in Indianapolis, Joe, I appreciate.

894
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 7: It, sure, all right, thanks, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, take care. Joe is going to be a successful kid.

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00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: I can tell because if he's thinking about screen time

897
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: and internet filtering at his age, that's a smart thing.

898
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: He's probably just trying to evade his parents, which is

899
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: probably what I would have done as a kid.

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Speaker 2: So that's all good, all right.

901
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Speaking of the iPhone, So Wall Street Journal had this

902
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: big kind of expose on the fact that thieves are

903
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: actually looking to watch how you type in your passcode

904
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: on your phone, and then they steal your phone, type

905
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: in your passcode and they can immediately do a password

906
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: reset on your Apple account and steal all your information.

907
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: They send money from like Venmo to themselves and all

908
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: this stuff. So check out the article Wall Street Journal.

909
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Just google how to protect your iPhone from thieves. But

910
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: I posted about this on my Instagram because I was

911
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: really floored about this too. I didn't realize that they

912
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: could do so much damage with a passcode. So Instagram

913
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech made this little infographic and okay,

914
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: so once they unlock your phone, they immediately try to

915
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: transfer money from apps like Venmo or cash app or

916
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: your bank to their themselves, or they can go into

917
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: your account settings and reset your Apple password and lock

918
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: you out of all your devices, which I was not

919
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: aware of. All you need to have is an unlocked iPhone.

920
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: So if you really want it to be cruel to

921
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: your friends, you could just grab their unlocked iPhone and

922
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: literally ruin their lives. Don't do that, Please use your

923
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: knowledge for good. First thing you gotta do, put a

924
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: strong passcode on your phone, preferably six digits. If you

925
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: really want to be wild, go for an alpha numeric code,

926
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: which I don't know if I'm ready to do that

927
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: just yet, because sometimes you do have to type in

928
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: that code, and we all know how much we hate passwords.

929
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: If you have to sit there and type in alpha

930
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: numerica on your phone every time you want to unlock

931
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: when face id's not working, o autolock set it to

932
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I've seen so many people that I know,

933
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: they use their phone and then they just put it

934
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: back in their purse or their pocket or their backpack

935
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Speaker 1: with it unlocked.

936
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Speaker 2: Do not do that.

937
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: Lock your phone, press that side button to lock it up,

938
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: or set that autolock to thirty seconds. Don't set it

939
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: for never or fifteen minutes or ten minutes. It is

940
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: way too long. Someone can pick up your phone and

941
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: they can start using it. Definitely set an additional unlock

942
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: passcode on any financial app that will support it, whether

943
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: that's Venmo, cash app, PayPal, your bank account. I never

944
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: did this in the past because I didn't really understand

945
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: why they would have that. I was like, why does

946
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: my bank need an extra passcode? Now I know why

947
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: someone gets a hold of your phone it's unlocked. At

948
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: least these apps ask for a secondary password. And finally,

949
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: consider a password manager that doesn't rely on face ID

950
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: and uses a separate passcode unlocked. So if you're using

951
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: the built in password manager on iOS, the keychain iCloud keychain,

952
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: once they unlock your phone, they can go right into

953
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: that and unlock it with your passcode, so that means

954
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: all of your passwords are now at risk. Now, if

955
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: you really want to lock down your phone, you can

956
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: set up screen time on your own account, not just

957
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: your kids. Use a different pin and then go to

958
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: the settings in screen Time, and there's a section called

959
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: account changes if you choose don't allow, so if someone

960
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: gets into your phone, if they get there, they will

961
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: not be able to change your Apple ID password. So

962
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 1: if you really want to protect yourself, set upscreen time

963
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: and then do not allow changes under your account. Again,

964
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Speaker 1: I've got the step by step instructions on my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Find me at rich on Tech. And by the way,

966
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: if you want to know a little bit about into

967
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: my world, I discovered Canva again recently, and so if

968
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: you look at my Instagram, you can definitely tell that

969
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: I've been having a blast on Canva because all of

970
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: my posts lately are created on Canva. And it's not

971
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: like I didn't know about Canva. Canva is sort of

972
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: like print Shop from when I was a kid, but

973
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: now it's this super easy to use design studio that

974
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: lets you make anything from Instagram posts to YouTube thumbnails,

975
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: to business cards to videos. But it's so easy and

976
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. I've been spending all of my

977
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: free time making these little tutorials on my Instagram. So

978
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: rich on Tech is my Instagram Canva. Check it out

979
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: if you do anything with design, and I think they

980
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: even give out free accounts to like teachers and stuff.

981
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: You can.

982
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone can use it for free, but the

983
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: premium is what I've been paying for because I just

984
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: find it so fascinating. But you know, if you're a

985
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: teacher and educator, I think they give that to you

986
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: for free, so definitely take advantage of it because I

987
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: am just loving, loving Canva. All right, you got to

988
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: call you got a phone question for me? Give me

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00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: a call triple eight rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: Later in the show, we're going to talk to someone

992
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: from Bark Parental Controls about these new TikTok screen time limits.

993
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: They're going to set a sixty minute time limit for

994
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: any user under eighteen. We'll see what that's all about. Plus, uh,

995
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Microsoft is letting you link your iPhone to Windows. That's interesting,

996
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you about some of the limitations to that.

997
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: You are listening to me Rich Demiro here KTLA Channel

998
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: five Tech reporter on rich on Tech. More of your

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00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: calls after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. My

1000
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: name is Rich DeMuro, talking technology, hanging out with you,

1001
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: taking your emails to a lot of you emailing me today.

1002
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: Morris says they tried or thank you for the story

1003
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: on Sudshare, the laundry service app I signed up for

1004
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: the first time. They picked up as requested, brought back today.

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00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: It was all neat and tidy. The sudster was delightful

1006
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: and friendly and the price was reasonable. As a senior,

1007
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: it is wonderful to have this service. Thank you, sincerely, Moira.

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00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 2: So cool. I love this.

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Speaker 1: We talked about this sudster service last week where basically

1010
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: someone will come to your house, pick up your laundry,

1011
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: wash it at their house, fold it and return it

1012
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: to you. And yeah, a little controversial, right, A lot

1013
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: of people were saying, I'm not trusting people to you know,

1014
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: wash my what's a nice word for your you know

1015
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: the delegates, you know what I mean? Yeah, the the

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00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: under rus let's so, I mean, I get it. But

1017
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: at the same time, again talking about the gig economy,

1018
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: there is something for everyone and whether you want to

1019
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: make money doing someone else's laundry all you need is

1020
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: laundry room or like Moira that you know, no big deal,

1021
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: got the laundry done.

1022
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: So anyway, very cool, happy to help.

1023
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Microsoft Big big update to Windows eleven,

1024
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of new features. I'll just go over a

1025
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: couple of them. Bing Ai integrated into Windows taskbars. You

1026
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: might notice a new bing logo on your Windows taskbar.

1027
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: That's because the new bing Ai is built in, so

1028
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. I don't know if everyone has

1029
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: that immediately, but it will be coming to your PC.

1030
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: Windows.

1031
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: Microsoft is really trying to make good on their investment

1032
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: in chat open Ai, which is the company behind chat GPT.

1033
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: They are building this into everything that they make. Phone

1034
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: Link this is an app that has been around for

1035
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: Android users for a long time which allows you to

1036
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: kind of sync up your Android phone with your Windows computer,

1037
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: make phone calls, receive phone calls, send and receive texts. Well,

1038
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: now they're taking it a step further and now they've

1039
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: got phone Link for iOS. So now you can link

1040
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: up your iPhone to a Windows eleven PC and you

1041
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: can get your phone calls, you can make calls, and

1042
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: you also get some of your texts. Now I say

1043
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: some of your texts, because yes, you can send and

1044
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: receive texts, but it's a little bit limited, so you

1045
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: cannot do your group texts, you can't send photos and

1046
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: there's no history, so only the texts that you have

1047
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: sent and received through the new phone Link app will

1048
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: show up there. It's not going to be all of

1049
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: your texts from forever. But another thing that's kind of

1050
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: cool is Windows now finally has a proper screen recording

1051
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: tool built in. There's been many screen recorders you could

1052
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: have gotten third party, but now the Snipping tool, you

1053
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: know the one that lets you take screenshots, that will

1054
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: let you record video of your screen. So this is

1055
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: going to be a big deal for teachers and anyone

1056
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: else that uses screen recordings as a way to kind

1057
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: of teach people or show people what they're doing on

1058
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: their screen. There's even a new keyboard shortcut, Windows key

1059
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: plus shift key plus s will trigger a screen recording

1060
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: in the Snipping tool. Now, this is not going to

1061
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: happen automatically. You do need to get the Windows eleven update,

1062
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: So if you want that right now, you can go

1063
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: to Windows Update and you can check for updates.

1064
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: But otherwise, most folks will.

1065
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: Get this rolled out to their computer sometime this month,

1066
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty three. All right, let's go to

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Speaker 1: Paul in Columbus, Ohio, one of my favorite Cities. Paul,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Rich what's up?

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00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 11: Hey guy. Good to hear you, and a good show

1070
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 11: so far. I've been listening to for you for the

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Speaker 11: look weeks.

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Speaker 12: The other day I was.

1073
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Speaker 11: With the on a group call with some their friends

1074
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 11: and somebody brought up this thing called pro theory and

1075
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 11: I tried to look it up. They were drilled with it.

1076
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 11: I looked it up and found videos on YouTube about it.

1077
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 11: Just came out in January apparently, and it really kind

1078
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,720
Speaker 11: of it's connected with the chat GVT.

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Speaker 4: I guess it is.

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Speaker 11: And it likes if you you set up a trigger

1081
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 11: phrase for Siri instead of just saying hey Siri, you

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Speaker 11: say what's up or whatever you want to say, and

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Speaker 11: then it goes to that Siri, And like if you say,

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Speaker 11: give me a recipe for a spaghetti sauce instead of

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Speaker 11: like they do now will they give you like three

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Speaker 11: choices of web pages, this one will actually just give

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Speaker 11: you a recipe. A couple other ones too, more sophisticated,

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Speaker 11: but that's gone the basic idea. Much more sophisticated than

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Speaker 11: a regular SERI search. My question was, have you heard

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Speaker 11: about it and would be just want to make sure

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Speaker 11: it's safe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good question. Good, good question, because this chat has

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Speaker 1: taken the world by storm. Now this is really using

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Speaker 1: a series shortcut. It is legitimate. You can do it,

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Speaker 1: but quite honestly, what I'd recommend doing, and what I

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Speaker 1: have on my phone is BING the mobile app. Just

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Speaker 1: go to bing dot com slash new and I feel

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be a very useful thing. I

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Speaker 1: am on it all day long now because I've got

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Speaker 1: They just added Bing is using chat GPT technology into

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Speaker 1: their own search engine. It's a little more polished than

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. If you want to set up

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Speaker 1: the series shortcut to use chat GPT, go ahead, But

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Speaker 1: I would not pay for it. And if you're listening

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to think about downloading a chat GPT

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Speaker 1: app to your phone, do not do it.

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Speaker 2: They are all bogus.

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Speaker 1: Do not pay for that right now, All right, coming up,

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Speaker 1: we are going to talk to t Tanya Jordan from

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Speaker 1: Bark Technologies about privacy and filtering for your teenagers online.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back to you,

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, hanging out

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Speaker 1: talking technology with you. By the way, you can find

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Speaker 1: me online if this is the first time you're hearing

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Speaker 1: me rich on tech dot tv. There you can find

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Speaker 1: my website. I put the links to everything that I

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Speaker 1: do in this world, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, the podcast, the

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Speaker 1: stuff I recommend on Amazon, my email, my email newsletter,

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Speaker 1: all the stories I do for KTLA. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot of stuff on there. Rich

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Speaker 1: On tech dot tv is the website. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to check out some of the things I'm up to,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 2: That's where it is, all right.

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Speaker 1: Titanya Jordan is the uh Bark Technology's Chief parenting Officer.

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Speaker 1: Bark is an online safety company. I've been testing out

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Speaker 1: some of their filtering technology recently. They have a new

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Speaker 1: partnership with the router Villo, and so this is a

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Speaker 1: company I recommend a lot if parents want to filter

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Speaker 1: stuff on the Internet for their kids.

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Speaker 2: Tatanya, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: So just quickly give me an idea of what Bark

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Speaker 1: is capable of doing.

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Speaker 10: Sure, so, what Bark does is help protect over six

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Speaker 10: and a half million children across the globe using a

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Speaker 10: variety of tech. Most notably, we're using artificial intelligence to

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Speaker 10: connect to children's devices, accounts, social media, text email, then

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Speaker 10: analyze it, and then alert parents and caregivers to dangers

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Speaker 10: that lie hidden deep within their digital signal. We also

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Speaker 10: offer screen time and filtering solutions like a lot of

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Speaker 10: other options that are out there. And then finally, we

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Speaker 10: recently launched a smartphone because everybody was giving their kids

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Speaker 10: smartphones that were not safe for kids. So that's what

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Speaker 10: we do.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so let's talk about that because the you know,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, a lot of kids want iPhones. There

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Speaker 1: are some limitations on what you're able to do even

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Speaker 1: as a tech company, Like you can't physically go through

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Speaker 1: everything in real time on a phone as many parents

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Speaker 1: might want. Right, So can you just explain that real quick? Sure?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, yes, iPhones are what everybody wants in

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Speaker 10: the US. It's interesting outside of the US, androids are preferred,

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Speaker 10: but here we are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I digress.

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Speaker 1: So blue bubble, it's all about the blue bubble. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, believe me, We've talked about it.

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Speaker 10: But you know, Apple does not make it easy for

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Speaker 10: parents to keep their kids safer on their devices. Yes,

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Speaker 10: they have family sharing opportunities, but kids circumvent them with

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Speaker 10: every new iOS software update comes new capabilities that are

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Speaker 10: great for adults, but come new loopholes that children circumvent

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Speaker 10: to get more screen time, to bypass filters, to talk

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Speaker 10: to strangers, to send nudes, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so it's again, so if parents think that

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Speaker 1: they can, like, in real time, if their kids says

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Speaker 1: a certain word and they get an alert on their email,

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Speaker 1: is that possible with Android?

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Speaker 10: It's I'm not going to say it's real time, just

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Speaker 10: just to cover my rear. Yeah, but it's pretty darn close, Okay.

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Speaker 10: I would say it's as technologically possible as close to

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Speaker 10: being real time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, very cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about the big news this

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Speaker 1: week is that TikTok, every Parent's dream app, is setting

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Speaker 1: a sixty minute automatic daily screen time limit for users

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Speaker 1: under eighteen. Now this sounds like, wow, what an amazing company.

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Speaker 1: They are so kind to our world for doing this.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeh?

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Speaker 10: I'm sorry that I'm not sorry that I'm laughing because

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Speaker 10: it's truly a joke.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 10: First of all, TikTok launched their version of printal Controls,

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Speaker 10: which are truly just laughable because they give children that

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Speaker 10: have these printal controls implemented within their TikTok interface, the

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Speaker 10: ability to unlink from the parent account. Why do you

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Speaker 10: give parents the illusion that they can keep their kids

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Speaker 10: safer on your platform when you're giving the kid the

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Speaker 10: ability to just disconnect it so and promblem one.

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Speaker 1: And let's be honest, how many parents are actually setting

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Speaker 1: up this link in the first place. It's probably not many.

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Speaker 10: It's certainly buried. I mean, I'm a mom, I'm on TikTok.

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Speaker 10: They have never shared the fact that they have these

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Speaker 10: printal controls with me, and they could do that easily

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Speaker 10: through the notification, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this new sixty minute time limit applies to

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Speaker 1: users under eighteen. Once that limit is reached, the teens

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Speaker 1: will have to enter in a passcode in order to

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Speaker 1: continue watching, and the way TikTok describes it, requiring them

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Speaker 1: to make an active decision to extend that time. Now,

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Speaker 1: do you really think there's gonna be a large percentage

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Speaker 1: of teenagers who say, ooh, I've been on this for

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Speaker 1: an hour, I should really stop. Let me not put

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Speaker 1: in this passcode right now.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's like giving the three year old a spoon

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Speaker 10: and a tumble of vibe, scream and saying just have

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Speaker 10: one bite and then leaving the room.

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Speaker 2: That applies to me too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I polished off some Halo top last night,

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Speaker 1: but thankfully that whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Is like not that bad for you.

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Speaker 7: Go you with a keto.

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Speaker 1: And then for kids under thirteen, the daily screen time

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Speaker 1: limit will also be set to sixty minutes, but a

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Speaker 1: parent or guardian will have to enter an existing passcode

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Speaker 1: to enable an additional thirty minutes of watch time.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, bigfootnote there. That's if TikTok knows your child's

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Speaker 10: real age, if your child has given it their real age,

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Speaker 10: which they usually don't, they usually lie and say they're

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Speaker 10: eighteen twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids begged me to like lie for them.

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Speaker 1: They say, Dad, can you please set me up with

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Speaker 1: the account? And you know, being a tech person and

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Speaker 1: the responsible person I try to be. I'm like kids,

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Speaker 1: I can't, but I will be honest. I did set

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Speaker 1: up one of my kids, the more responsible one with

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Speaker 1: a slightly older age, on one of the accounts because

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Speaker 1: it was just easier. And you know, I think parents

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Speaker 1: are really put in a tough position here because they

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Speaker 1: want to make things easy for their children, but also

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Speaker 1: they want those protections. But those two things do not align,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure, they really don't.

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Speaker 10: And you know, inherently tech should arrive as safe as possible,

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Speaker 10: and then if you are an adult, you should be

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Speaker 10: able to you know, dial back some layers of safety

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Speaker 10: because you're able to handle it. Instead, the majority of

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Speaker 10: tech is just given to children with full access to

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Speaker 10: all the things, and then parents and caregivers are left

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Speaker 10: having to play that game of whack a mole. And

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Speaker 10: it's unprecedented.

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Speaker 2: Now, TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're kind of ragging on TikTok here, but

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Speaker 1: just kind of give me the bigger picture of things,

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Speaker 1: like parents want to believe that their kids are just

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Speaker 1: okay online. You deal with this on a daily basis.

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Speaker 2: Is it safe out there?

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Speaker 10: It's really not. And I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer.

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Speaker 10: I'm not trying to be a fear mongerer. But every

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Speaker 10: year we release an annual report based on the data.

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Speaker 10: You know, I mentioned earlier we helped protect over six

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Speaker 10: and a half mill children across the globe and so

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Speaker 10: we've seen some things. Last year, we analyzed more than

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Speaker 10: four and a half billion messages across text, email, YouTube apps,

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Speaker 10: et cetera. And we found that the rate at which

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Speaker 10: children are experiencing things from self harm and suicidal ideation

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Speaker 10: to extreme sexual content and predators to disordered eating content

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Speaker 10: and anxiety and bullying and depression and drugs and alcohol

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Speaker 10: and violence are incredibly high in the sixty seventy eighty

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Speaker 10: percentile range. It's very problematic.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like as an adult, it's tough

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Speaker 1: to process sort of everything that you're exposed to online

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Speaker 1: on a daily basis, not just the bad stuff, but

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Speaker 1: also dealing with the time that we spend on our devices.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm on my phone a lot. I'm getting messages

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Speaker 1: from people all over the world that are talking to

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Speaker 1: me and telling me stuff. And sometimes people are nice,

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Speaker 1: sometimes they're mean. And that's for an adult to process,

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Speaker 1: which you know, my brain is somewhat fully formed. Maybe

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Speaker 1: some of it's gone, you know, but you know it's there,

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Speaker 1: and you know, so for kids that are still, you know,

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Speaker 1: at these critical stages of life, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: this is something we've never really had to go through before,

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Speaker 1: as you know, humans, we haven't.

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Speaker 10: We are in the words of my favorite documentary Childhood

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Speaker 10: two dot Zho that's free on YouTube. I highly encourage

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Speaker 10: anybody to watch it. There's a doctor in there that

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Speaker 10: says we're essentially living in an experiment right now. What happens,

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Speaker 10: we'll find out.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, cool, that is so true.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I've got about a minute. Can you

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Speaker 1: give me some takeaway? What can parents do today?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 10: Quick takeaways? First of all, you're listening to us, so

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Speaker 10: good job, thank you. You are now more aware. Second

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01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 10: thing you can do is talk to your kids. Please

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Speaker 10: have ongoing, frequent, candid conversations with them about the toughest

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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 10: topics that humanity encounters. At a much younger agent. You

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Speaker 10: might think, is it easy?

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Speaker 3: No?

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 10: Is it imperative yes. If they know that you are

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01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 10: a safe place and you can talk about anything and

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Speaker 10: they're not going to be punished or blamed or lose

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01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 10: their access to the games and the phones, they'll be

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Speaker 10: more likely to talk to you about these things when

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Speaker 10: they come up. Finally, if your children do have access

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Speaker 10: to tech, whether it's a gaming console, a smart television,

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Speaker 10: a smartphone and iPad, etc. Please take the time to

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Speaker 10: google the parental controls that come free and built in

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Speaker 10: with whatever you've given them, because they are there and

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Speaker 10: they are helpful. And then finally, if you're interested in

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Speaker 10: what BARK does, look us up try a free trial.

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Speaker 10: Happy to help protect your family.

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Speaker 1: Titania Jordan, thank you so much, Chief Parent Officer at BARK.

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Speaker 1: I know you're a parent, and I'm sure you have

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Speaker 1: your own issues with what you know you have to

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Speaker 1: go through. I know I do with two kids, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's it's not easy, and we're we're techy's

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Speaker 1: and so I imagine for parents that aren't dealing with

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Speaker 1: us on a daily basis, with you know, knowing this stuff,

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Speaker 1: it's even tougher. So thanks so much for coming on

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Speaker 1: the show today. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I'll put a link to Titanya on my

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Speaker 1: website at richon tech dot tv. Go ahead and follow

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Speaker 1: So much more for you. In the show, we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about RING adding some new fees. Oh, the

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Speaker 1: free ride is over for you RING users. Plus we'll

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Speaker 1: have more of your calls at triple eight rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. You're listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Rich demiro So,

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Speaker 1: tech reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. I

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Speaker 1: after it's all said and done, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: in the podcast. So if you've been listening to that

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Speaker 1: and you're saying, Rich, you got to up your game

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Speaker 1: with these notes, because sometimes it's just like, Okay, Rich

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Speaker 1: talked about this. Now I'm keeping much better notes. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: All right, let's.

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Speaker 1: See John is in more Park, California. John, you're on

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Speaker 1: with Rich.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 12: Rich, thank you for taking my call. I have a

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Speaker 12: volunteer job at the local senior center, and I've had

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Speaker 12: a PC since about August in nineteen eighty seven, the

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Speaker 12: same one August of eighty seven, I've had a PC.

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Speaker 12: I've had a Mac for ten years and right now

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Speaker 12: I'm using a Microsoft Surface Book. Anyway, one of the

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Speaker 12: customers at the senior center who came in the computer room,

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Speaker 12: asked me. He says, everybody told me I should get

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Speaker 12: a computer? What should I buy? What should I get?

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Speaker 12: And you know, I've been doing this for god god,

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Speaker 12: almost thirty or forty years, and I just you know,

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Speaker 12: I'm Betwicks in between. What what do you advise people

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Speaker 12: like that? I asked him, and he says he only

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Speaker 12: has the landline and knows nothing about computers.

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Speaker 7: Well, what do you do?

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Speaker 12: Would people ask you questions like that?

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Speaker 2: I send him somewhere else. No, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mean that's why you're calling me. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you're saying that they don't have Wi

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Speaker 1: Fi at their home?

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Speaker 2: Is that part of it?

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Speaker 12: They probably do not?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So that I mean, I mean, here's the thing. If

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Speaker 1: you're and how old.

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Speaker 2: Is this person?

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Speaker 12: Ah, he's crazy?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, look, they probably want something that's simple.

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Speaker 1: They probably want something that's easy. And I would say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the ideal situation would be that this computer

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Speaker 1: would probably have five G built into it or you know,

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Speaker 1: a cellular connection. But I don't think they're going to

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Speaker 1: want to do that. I mean, are they going to

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Speaker 1: want to pay twenty thirty bucks a month for a

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Speaker 1: cellular connection on this computer.

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Speaker 12: Of course not. And then I was thinking, well, maybe

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Speaker 12: they would be happy with a kindle or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I like, yeah, I don't know, that's not

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Speaker 1: going to really you can't really go online.

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Speaker 12: Oh, I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, the thing that I would recommend,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple of things, but I would

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Speaker 1: recommend a Chromebook obviously, because that's just super simple. It's

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Speaker 1: very easy, it's full proof. It's basically a glorified Chrome

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Speaker 1: web browser. So they're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: make any mistakes on this thing. They're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: to worry about viruses. I think the biggest trick is

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Speaker 1: really the Internet. So what i'd recommend is probably a

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Speaker 1: nice Chromebook and then maybe a hot spot. So do

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Speaker 1: they have a cell phone?

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Speaker 12: I know he has just a landline.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just a landline.

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Speaker 1: Well, so what I would do is maybe recommend if

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Speaker 1: they you know, and again they're gonna have to pay

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Speaker 1: a little bit to get this internet. They could do

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Speaker 1: two things. Number one, they can get this chromebook and

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Speaker 1: they can use it at a place like a Starbucks

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Speaker 1: or McDonald's. Or a library wherever they have free internet access,

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Speaker 1: so they can do that, find out a local place

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Speaker 1: that has a free Wi Fi signal, maybe the Senior

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Speaker 1: center has it, and they can just use their computer

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Speaker 1: when they do that. Since you're telling me this person

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Speaker 1: has not really used a computer in their most adult life,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to go from zero to

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Speaker 1: one hundred where they need to use it every single

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Speaker 1: second of the day. So maybe they just get a

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Speaker 1: computer that they bring to the senior center once, you know,

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Speaker 1: an hour a day and they do their stuff on there.

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Speaker 1: They check their email, they surf the web, watch YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and then they can bring it home

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Speaker 1: and that's it.

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Speaker 12: But if they hadn't thought of the chromebook, is particular

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Speaker 12: model of chrome book that you would recommend off the

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Speaker 12: top of your head.

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Speaker 2: Or there is no there is?

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Speaker 1: Because I was just well, there's a couple of plays,

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Speaker 1: I mean you could take, you know, I've been testing

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Speaker 1: one that I really like that I thought was pretty inexpensive.

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Speaker 1: It's like under five hundred dollars. It's uh gosh, I

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Speaker 1: think it's the ACER five fourteen. I repeat that, the

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Speaker 1: ACER five fourteen. Let me just make sure because I'm

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Speaker 1: looking up. We just did this on KTLA. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: the Acer five fourteen, So that's.

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Speaker 2: A good one. Now, I have you heard of the

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Speaker 2: website wirecutter.

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Speaker 1: I have, so I like what they recommend I've I've

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Speaker 1: interviewed kimber Streams over there and we've talked about the

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Speaker 1: recommendations that they have and they really like let's see

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Speaker 1: the Lenovo Flex five I, which is anywhere from three

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Speaker 1: to five hundred dollars. So I would take a look

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Speaker 1: at those two. But that's going to be a good start. Now,

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Speaker 1: Samsung has some laptops, but I think they're too expensive

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Speaker 1: for what but you're looking at. But they do have

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Speaker 1: some cellular capabilities built in, sort of the Microsoft surface laptops.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing more and more of these laptops get cellular

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Speaker 1: built in. But the problem is, you know, it's expensive,

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Speaker 1: it really SAPs the battery, and I think that it

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Speaker 1: just makes things a little bit complicated for someone that's

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Speaker 1: just getting out.

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Speaker 12: I'm sure the guy is gonna freak out when I

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Speaker 12: recommend something in the area of five hundred dollars, but

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Speaker 12: that's about where I would go myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, you can get a Chromebook for

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Speaker 1: much cheaper. You can get a chromebook for two three

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Speaker 1: hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: But you know the old adage, you get what you

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Speaker 2: pay for.

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Speaker 1: And if they're just getting on this thing and it's

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Speaker 1: slow and it's just not nice and it's just like

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Speaker 1: a slog to get through it, they're just not gonna

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Speaker 1: have a good experience. But you know you can get them.

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Speaker 1: And believe me, they do have. I mean this Chromebook

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Speaker 1: that they're recommending, this Lenovo Flex five I. Let's see

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Speaker 1: how much it is on Amazon. It is it's two

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Speaker 1: ninety nine, So you know what go with that one?

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Speaker 1: That's a Lenovo Idea Pad Flex five I. Two hundred

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Speaker 1: and ninetynine bucks. That's a pretty good price for a

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Speaker 1: computer to get started with. All right, all right, John,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling today. I appreciate it. Good

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Speaker 1: luck with that. That's definitely h You know, it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where I recommend tech products all the time,

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Speaker 1: and yes, people want stuff that is inexpensive, and I

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Speaker 1: understand that, but you do get what.

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Speaker 2: You pay for.

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Speaker 1: And if I was recommending a laptop to like a

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Speaker 1: college student or something like that, you know, the MacBooks

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Speaker 1: they're a little bit more expensive, but they last a

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Speaker 1: very very long time. And believe me, I have a

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Speaker 1: whole system where I passed down my old computer to

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Speaker 1: like family members, and I still have my dad. I

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Speaker 1: was just home and he's still using a twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: computer and you're talking ten years old. And I, you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, I need a new computer, this one soul,

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Speaker 1: I said, Dad, I'm looking at it.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 1: Like this thing is still running really well. Now some

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Speaker 1: of the software updates, yeah, they're not really coming through anymore.

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Speaker 1: But you know, again, it's just all about the longevity

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Speaker 1: with this stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about ring real quick. If if

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Speaker 1: you have a ring alarm system, starting March twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay for some new features, including

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Speaker 1: arming and disarming the system from the app. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to continue arming and disarming your ring alarm

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Speaker 1: system using the app, you're gonna have to start paying

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Speaker 1: three dollars and ninety nine cents a month. Not a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of money, it's forty bucks a year, but

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to do after March twenty ninth.

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Speaker 1: So you can still arm and disarm manually using the

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Speaker 1: keypad in your home. But this is very similar similar

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Speaker 1: to what simply Safe does. If you want their basic

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Speaker 1: subscription that you know you're just using sort of the

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Speaker 1: keyfob or the the the actual system to arm and disarm,

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Speaker 1: you pay one price. But if you want the app

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Speaker 1: to do it, which of course is more convenient, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay a secondary price. So starting March twenty ninth,

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Speaker 1: free ride is over for ring folks. So again, this

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Speaker 1: is just a trend we're seeing with all these companies.

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Speaker 1: The re ride with all these tech companies is definitely over.

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Speaker 1: You're paying pay and paying rich on Tech. Here you

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Speaker 1: are listening to Rich Demiro talking tech. More of your

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Speaker 1: reporter at KTLA Channel five in Los Angeles. Hope you

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Speaker 1: are having a fantastic day. I know I am, and

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Speaker 1: man I said, this show is going by fast. We

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Speaker 1: you do a three hour show? I said, hmm, I'm

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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: usually talking on TV for about two to three minutes,

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: so three hours sounded kind of long, but uh, you

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: know what, now that I'm doing it, I could talk

1513
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: even longer. Should we start a longer rich on Tech? No,

1514
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I think I think three hours is

1515
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: good for now. All right, you can find me online

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01:15:53,840 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: at rich on Tech. Let's go to Brian in Ventura, California. Brian,

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: you're on with rich calling from a very beautiful place.

1518
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: We were just up in Ventura and people when I

1519
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 1: post it to my Instagram, they said, stop posting about

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01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: our place.

1521
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: We don't want people to come here.

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 6: It's tough to live here.

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: What can I help you with?

1524
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 4: It's good to be me, Rich.

1525
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 6: I'm I'm looking to upgrade my my smart TV. As

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 6: I'm getting older, though, I'm having some hearing loss and

1527
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 6: I'm finding it very difficult to listen, particularly to like

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 6: the series TV shows. I can hear fine if i'm

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01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,839
Speaker 6: listening to the news, but when it comes to TV shows,

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01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 6: I just I just I had no idea what they're saying.

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01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: It's not just you, by the way, that's uh, you know,

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01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: that's that's like a thing like it's some of these

1533
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: shows are really tough. Like a lot of people watch

1534
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: with the with the captioning on like I know, I do,

1535
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: my wife does, because it could be really tough to

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01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: hear sometimes and it's and all of a sudden you

1537
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: get like a commercial and it's like, you know, blowing

1538
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 1: your ear drums out.

1539
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 2: So anyway, I understand.

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01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 6: That's the problem my current my current TV. Sometimes I

1541
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 6: can get the captioning, sometimes I can't.

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01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're looking to upgrade. What can I help

1543
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: you with?

1544
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 6: My question is do the do the current TVs? Do

1545
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 6: they have the ability for me to listen via a

1546
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 6: Bluetooth headphone and my wife still listen on either our soundbar.

1547
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 4: Or the TV speakers?

1548
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,959
Speaker 6: And what about something called a dual output?

1549
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and that's what I was going to mention.

1550
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: So it depends on the TV obviously and the specific

1551
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: model that you get, but some of the TVs, some

1552
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: of the smart TVs can do this. And it also

1553
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: depends you know what you're are you going to use

1554
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: the built in software on the TV?

1555
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 6: Well, we typically right now we use Roku.

1556
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh you do use Roku Okay, so that could be

1557
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: different because you know, depending on how the Roku's set

1558
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: up that now to use the Roku software on the TV,

1559
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: or is it a separate box.

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 6: It's a separate plug in because the current TV doesn't

1561
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 6: have apps or anything.

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, but you're trying to upgrade to a whole

1563
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: new TV. You're saying, yes, okay, so okay, well just

1564
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: just I mean, so Samsung, I know, does the dual

1565
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: output and so you can connect you know, the speaker.

1566
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: You can connect a Bluetooth audio device and have the

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 1: speaker as well, so you get the best of both worlds.

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 11: There.

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01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: Uh, that's the one I know of I'm not sure.

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01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: I think you know some of the other TVs. I'm

1571
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 1: sure a lot of the TVs do that, especially the

1572
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: smart TVs give you that option, but it is something

1573
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: you have to turn on in the option, so I know, yeah.

1574
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the dual audio is the thing.

1575
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: It's something It's interesting because you know, some of the

1576
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: smartphones I test have this feature as well, and obviously

1577
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: Apple has it with their with their own headphones. But

1578
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 1: it's one of these things like you know, you got

1579
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: two different people, they want to listen two different ways,

1580
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, like let's give these people these options. And

1581
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: I think with software nowadays, a lot of that is capable.

1582
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: It just depends on whether the manufacturer builds it in,

1583
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: whether they allow it, or whether they you know, take

1584
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: the time to program it.

1585
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 4: Right.

1586
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 6: But if you're you, I can hook my I can

1587
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,600
Speaker 6: hook it up to my current TV via Bluetooth, but

1588
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 6: it shuts off the TV speakers in the sandbar.

1589
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 4: Right.

1590
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:24,719
Speaker 2: Is this an older TV?

1591
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, like first generation?

1592
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably why. I mean TVs have definitely gotten

1593
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, But I would, I would, I would

1594
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: check to see if it has this capability.

1595
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: Like whatever model you've fund with, what's that?

1596
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 6: I can't find it anywhere.

1597
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: On the TV specs?

1598
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 6: No?

1599
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 2: Interesting?

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01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: Well, I know Samsung, I mean just looking up if

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01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: I let's see, if I look up Samsung dual Audio,

1602
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a thing. So it's yea, it's

1603
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: a thing. So I would, you know, I would definitely

1604
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: check into that and see, you know, maybe if you're

1605
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: I would, you know, maybe find one of these like

1606
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 1: really in depth reviews on something and like if you're

1607
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: if you're narrowing down on the TV, I would, you know,

1608
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: make sure that it has that functionality. And that may

1609
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: take like a kind of a deeper Google search to

1610
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: see if someone has mentioned it. But it looks like

1611
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: from what I'm seeing a lot of the Samsung TVs,

1612
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: if you go into the accessibility feature, I think that's

1613
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: really you know, where it's gonna where it's going to live.

1614
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay. The second question is, uh, you know, I'm

1615
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 6: looking at a Costco TV and evidently the ones that

1616
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 6: I'm looking at are a two year old model. Does

1617
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 6: that really make a difference.

1618
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so at all.

1619
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really know what you're going to

1620
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: get from two years ago. I mean, I'll be honest.

1621
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: I have a TV that's, you know, many years old,

1622
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: and it still works just fine. So I think the

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01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: newer TVs, you know, they might be brighter, they may

1624
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: have more backlit areas in them, they may have you know,

1625
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: new types of lighting. You know, they've got these micro

1626
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: LEDs and things like that. But this is what I

1627
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: tell people. If you're going from a TV that you

1628
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: just said is you know, ten years old, to a

1629
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: TV that's two years old, I think you're gonna be

1630
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: just fine. And I think that if you're getting a

1631
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: good deal on this thing and it does what you need,

1632
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: I don't see why you wouldn't get it.

1633
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, well that's terrific. I appreciate your time

1634
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 6: and keep up the good work.

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: All right, Brian, appreciate it. Enjoy life in sunny Ventura, California. Ah,

1636
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: let's tell you about a couple of things happening in

1637
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: the tech world this week. If you've got a Google

1638
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: pixel Watch, and I'm tempted to make a joke here

1639
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: and so to say, like all three of you, I

1640
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 1: know tech humor, but look, you know, the pixel Watch,

1641
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: it just I think it failed to impress a lot

1642
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 1: of people because it just was very simple. The Apple

1643
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: Watch is just so strong of a contender that I

1644
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: think the pixel Watch is good and I like it

1645
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: as an option for Android, but I just feel like

1646
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: it was like it's just okay, and you know, the

1647
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 1: screen is small. But anyway, if you got a pixel Watch,

1648
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: and I think it's great because I think it's nice

1649
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: to have a nice watch option on the Android side

1650
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 1: of things. But they did finally roll out their fall

1651
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: detection to the pixel Watch, So if you were watching

1652
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 1: the launch of this thing, they said we're gonna have

1653
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: fall detection. Within a couple of months, the pixel Watch

1654
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: launched and I think it was October and now they

1655
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: are rolling out the fall detection, So if you got

1656
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: this thing and you were curious about this, you should

1657
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: probably activate it.

1658
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1659
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a very very helpful feature. And fall

1660
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: detection will basically if you ever fall with your watch on,

1661
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: it will call nine one one or it will dial

1662
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: folks in your emergency contact. So if you want to

1663
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: activate it, you can check for it on the device

1664
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: or in the Personal Safety app on Android. And it's

1665
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: been tested and obviously Google is very familiar with algorithms,

1666
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,440
Speaker 1: so they've tried to make sure that they can justinguish

1667
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: between doing something that's you know, physical or something that

1668
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: would actually mean you fell. And I had with the

1669
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: Apple Watch a couple of times where I'm sort of

1670
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: wrestling with the kids, you hit the ground pretty hard

1671
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: and it would say.

1672
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: Oh, did you just take a fall?

1673
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: And you know, so it happens, but usually with this one,

1674
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: so for instance, they're going to have a thirty second timeout,

1675
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 1: so it's gonna, you know, once it detects a hard fall,

1676
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna wait thirty seconds for any sort of movement

1677
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: before it will vibrate and set off an audible alarm.

1678
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: That sounds like kind of a lot to me, Like

1679
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be sitting there for thirty seconds,

1680
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: but I guess it's better than nothing. And then once

1681
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: this happens, notification prompt will pop up on the watch

1682
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: and ask if you need help, and if you don't,

1683
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: you can say you're okay. Otherwise you can say I

1684
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 1: fell and need help, or it will just proceed to

1685
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: call emergency services. It will share a location with them,

1686
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: or you can speak to the U nine one one

1687
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: operator through the watch. So I think this is one

1688
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I really enjoy having cellular on

1689
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: my watch, because you just never know, you know, you're

1690
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 1: out there running, and it's just something I'd never really

1691
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: thought about before because I've run outside by myself for

1692
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: so long. But can you imagine just like being stuck

1693
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: there and like not being able to like get help.

1694
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just.

1695
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: Don't even want to think about that. Should you click

1696
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: unsubscribe on an email?

1697
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 2: Hmm?

1698
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: This is a question that I get off and often so.

1699
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: The bottom line is, and this is from Roger Grimes.

1700
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 1: He is from No Before security expert. He has been

1701
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: on the show before, but he sent out this little

1702
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: primer this week.

1703
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 2: Should you click on unsubscribed?

1704
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: The short answer is yes if it's from a legitimate

1705
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 1: company sending you the email. No if it looks like

1706
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 1: it's from a spam marketer. If you click an email

1707
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: that says you know, if it's from a spammer, and

1708
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: you click on subscribe, it just basically tells them that

1709
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: this email address is great and they should send you

1710
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: more spam. So do not click on unsubscribe in these

1711
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: emails that you know. I'm not going to say what

1712
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: they say with all these emails that you get that

1713
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: you know they're spam, they're not legitimate. But if you

1714
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: get one from Macy's Best Buy home depot, sure you

1715
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: can click on subscribe and they will honor that. The

1716
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 1: one loophole he said is that they can still email

1717
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 1: you even if you said unsubscribe if it is related

1718
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: to a transactional or relationship, meaning you've done business with

1719
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: this company before and it continues the relationship with that company.

1720
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 1: So they could kind of get around this like spam

1721
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: situation by saying, well, we think that we still need

1722
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 1: to email Rich just to make sure about this thing,

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Speaker 1: this sale that we're having. So again, should you click

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01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 1: on unsubscribed, don't. When in doubt, just delete the email

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: without clicking any of the links. If it's spam, report

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01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: it as spam using your email provider, or if it's

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01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,440
Speaker 1: a legitimate email, definitely unsubscribe. In fact, I love unsubscribing.

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01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things to do if it's

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Speaker 1: from a legitimate company. Up, you've heard of this whole

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01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 1: Last Past debacle. We're going to talk to Wirecutter security

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Speaker 1: expert Thorin Klowsowski. He is going to talk to us

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01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 1: about some of the alternatives to last pass if you're

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01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 1: thinking of making a switch, plus some of the third

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Speaker 1: party password managers that they recommend. You are listening to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is rich Demiro, coming up

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Speaker 1: more of your calls. The phone lines are open Triple

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Speaker 1: eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two, four to one zero one. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. My name is Rich DeMuro, chattin technology

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Speaker 1: at Triple eight rich one on one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two, four to one zero one.

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Speaker 2: Elijah's in Westwood, Elijah, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Rich? Great fans of the show, we listened to

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01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 4: it every week here at the shop and yeah, really

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01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 4: appreciate the work you do. So I'd like to talk

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01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 4: to you first about the gentleman at the senior center

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01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 4: that was looking at options for connectivity for the seniors.

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01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 4: I have a shop that's a tech shop that's devoted

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Speaker 4: technology education, digital literacy for seniors and adult learners here

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01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 4: in Westwood, and very often you can make a connection,

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Speaker 4: whether it's an ADHC and adult day healthcare center or

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 4: senior living and many of the same options that are

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Speaker 4: provided to the on housed population that has connectivity, you know,

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 4: inside of the shelters can be given. Often you'll see

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 4: a booth you know, with people handing our phones, they

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01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 4: can be contacted and they have a program where they

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Speaker 4: hand out alt hotel and different tablets. Yes, have connectivity,

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Speaker 4: and they're often given for up to a year of connectivity.

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Speaker 4: Now the tablet's is a decent option to warm somebody up.

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Speaker 4: It has that three, four or five G connectivity, you

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Speaker 4: know what.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't even think about a tablet

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01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 1: because he said computer, and you're right, like an I

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Speaker 1: had with cellular even I mean, now again this is

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01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: all very it gets very expensive very quickly. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like the Affordable Connectivity Program in this case might work.

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Speaker 6: I think it does.

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Speaker 4: You know, they often give classes with it as well,

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Speaker 4: or we give classes with them, and those options are

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Speaker 4: out there sometimes. Rich, I think there were some laws where,

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Speaker 4: you know, in the state of California where different providers,

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Speaker 4: whether the Frontier or Sprint or T Mobile, so on

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Speaker 4: and so forth. I'm just suggesting I need to share

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Speaker 4: certain amounts of bandwidth for you know, certain of our

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Speaker 4: populations in need. And that could not be an insolubly

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Speaker 4: financial need. It could be an accessibility need for a

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Speaker 4: senior or you know, a person that has some physical challenges,

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Speaker 4: and we work with those companies in those options. So

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Speaker 4: those are definitely options that an admin could explore, and

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Speaker 4: I believe they're out there because you know, we help books.

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Speaker 2: Good call doing those things.

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Speaker 1: What's the scam I see here? I got to know

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Speaker 1: if you have a scam scam going around, what's the scam?

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Speaker 1: There's so many scams. I got my way in on here.

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Speaker 1: I got a phone call from the power company saying

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Speaker 1: my electricity is going to be turned off in a

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Speaker 1: half an hour. It was like a half an hour

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Speaker 1: unless I paid my bill immediately. So I even get

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Speaker 1: to like the payment part before I hung up. But

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Speaker 1: what's h But people fall for this stuff? What's the scam?

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Speaker 4: So there are oftenly many going around now. The most

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Speaker 4: popular ones I see right now are two either on

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Speaker 4: the email scam coming from something with a brand name

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Speaker 4: like PayPal or a package delivery ups so on and

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01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: so forth. Those need to be very successful because you're

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Speaker 4: at the shop we often deal with the aftermath. And

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Speaker 4: my suggestion is, of course, to get it in your

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01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 4: mind that the worst thing that can happen is if

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Speaker 4: you avoid an email, is you get a late fee,

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Speaker 4: and then you can deal with that in the future.

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Speaker 4: But it's really integral that when folks use their emails,

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Speaker 4: if somebody can help someone update an older quote unquote Pacbell,

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Speaker 4: dot net, caa dot roadrunner, older hotmails, you know certain

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Speaker 4: males that you can get any longer their legacy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and move that person to And I'm not promoting any

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Speaker 4: company but Google or so on and so forth. You'll

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Speaker 4: be a lot more protective. I feel as though, and

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Speaker 4: those older emails from justices all just info that comes

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Speaker 4: into the shop from folks that those older emails are

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Speaker 4: legacies and they're just not giving the attention that are

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Speaker 4: current emails.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're on autopilot, like the companies are pilot.

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Speaker 1: They're not putting any any effort into any spam filtering

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Speaker 1: or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, they're waiting today, you know, and they've sold

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Speaker 4: their five hundred times at different companies down the line,

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Speaker 4: and who knows where they are. And you know, and

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Speaker 4: I suggest to our folks here that that computer or

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Speaker 4: that phone or that tablet looks like a thirty minute

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Speaker 4: episode of I Love Lucy, where there's a beginning, a middle,

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Speaker 4: and an end. It doesn't have to be that way.

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Speaker 4: When you're on there. You can stop in the middle

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Speaker 4: and reach out to somebody close to you, parent, friend, child,

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Speaker 4: anybody around you and view that with that person. That

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Speaker 4: patience is the greatest antidote to those scam rooms because

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01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 4: they're good rich. Oh I know, you can get a

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01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: Windows eight point one computer with spotty connectivity to get

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01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 4: a team viewer on there and convince that soul to

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Speaker 4: go to a store and get gift cards.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know.

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01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,519
Speaker 4: And I can't get my mom to you know, say

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01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 4: good morning sometimes, but they could get her to do

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Speaker 4: all that. Per se.

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Speaker 2: It's all, it's all fear based and time based.

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Speaker 1: Elijah, I got to run, but thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and tell Kim your info so we can give you

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Speaker 1: a call back.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes we have medicaea. I want you to know

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Speaker 4: it's a great job.

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Speaker 1: Keep it up, all right, thanks Elijah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Good information there. Wow, I mean there's just so much.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's sad to me that our seniors and

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01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: so much of our so many people. It doesn't even

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01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: not just seniors, it's people fall for this stuff all

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01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: the time. And it's because scam artists are literally working

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven to figure out ways of appealing

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01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 1: to our better you know, our senses, you know, like

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01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: just just our kindness. Really, that's what it comes down to,

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Speaker 1: our human nature.

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Speaker 2: All right. Coming up, we're going to talk about Last Pass.

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Speaker 1: I know that they've been having some issues and you

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01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 1: might be thinking should I stick with them? Should I

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01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: stay with them? Should I ditch them? So we're going

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01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 1: to talk to the experts at the Wirecutter about you know,

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01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 1: what you should do the latest with the whole Last

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01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 1: Past issue. How they were hacked. You know, the security

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01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 1: company was hacked themselves and whether you should switch to

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01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: sort of a new provider or just stick it out

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01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: with them. So we'll talk about that coming up. Plus

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Speaker 1: I might have some more time for some questions. I'm

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Speaker 1: also going to talk about the most response I've ever

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Speaker 1: gotten to one of the segments we've done here, So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to start a new little system here, a

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: new little segment here called feedback, because you're listening and

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01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: you're also telling me some of the things that maybe

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01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. So we'll get to that before the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. You're listening to rich on Tech.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we'll talk last pass and more of your

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Speaker 1: calls at triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight seven four to two four one zero one

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Speaker 1: if you got some extra time. It just sounds like

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Speaker 1: I do. Find me on Instagram. I am at rich

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Speaker 1: on Tech. That's where I post all the stuff that

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about on a daily basis. Of course I'm

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Speaker 1: also on Twitter and Facebook as well. It is all

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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. See the theme we got going here.

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Speaker 1: You're listening. You're listening to rich on Tech. Welcome back

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01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. This is the show where I

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01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: talk about the tech stuff I think you should know about.

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Speaker 1: It's also the place where I answer your questions. My

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Speaker 1: name is rich Demiro, tech reporter at KTLA Channel five

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I don't know if you heard about

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01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: this whole Last Past debacle, but last Pass is a

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Speaker 1: very popular password manager and they were hacked. So now

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01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 1: folks that use it are probably wondering like do I

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01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 1: stick with it?

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01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Do I not?

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Speaker 1: So let's bring in security expert thorin Klosowski.

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Speaker 2: Let's see where are we here channel?

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Speaker 1: There we go, Thorn. I'm still learning the phone lines

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Speaker 1: here and your last name?

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Speaker 2: Did I? Did? I totally butcher that?

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Speaker 3: I no?

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Speaker 9: I think it was right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh good.

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Speaker 1: Thorn is the security expert at Wirecutter and thanks for.

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Speaker 2: Joining me today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: So can you give me an update on this last

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Speaker 1: past situation? What is the latest? How did they get hacked?

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Speaker 9: So the latest is we actually kind of know how

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01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 9: they did get hacked, which was a like a targeted

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01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 9: attack on one of their engineers through their home computer

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01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 9: network and through software called Plex, which is like a

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01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 9: media server. They were kind of able to get into

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01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 9: this person's network entirely and access to their passwords, which

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01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 9: included their last past passwords for their enterprise accounts, so.

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Speaker 1: They had an open port I'm guessing for this like

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01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: lot for this plex sharing or something, and then that's

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Speaker 1: how they got in.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not totally sure what the specifics are. It

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Speaker 9: was an actual vulnerability, though we do know much because

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01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 9: it was patched. So they had also not managed to

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Speaker 9: update their plans uh that entire time.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's embarrassing.

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01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: You think you had a bad day and then you

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01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:10,679
Speaker 1: hear this person's story and you're like, oh, like, you're

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01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 1: responsible for this company, Like you know, basically it's not

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01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: been good for last past and they are. They were

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Speaker 1: a company that I've recommended in the past, and recently

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Speaker 1: I've recommend other companies. But I'm curious, do you think

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01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: people stick with them or is it time to move on.

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Speaker 9: I think it's time to move on. They've kind of

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01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 9: had enough issues over the years that it kind of

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01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 9: was already eching that way anyway, and the way that

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Speaker 9: they've disclosed how all this happened has been so bad

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Speaker 9: that it kind of makes me lose confidence. You can

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01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 9: kind of give a company the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 9: a lot of the time because of this stuff happens,

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Speaker 9: but the way that they have handled it has been

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Speaker 9: very poor.

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Speaker 1: Now, you cover privacy and security for Wirecutter. Tell me

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Speaker 1: about your thoughts on having a password manager in general.

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Speaker 1: People always joke to me like, is it a s

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Speaker 1: to just, you know, keep this stuff on a piece

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Speaker 1: of paper? And in some ways that is actually safe,

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Speaker 1: but there's no way you can keep you know, a

1938
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Speaker 1: hundred passwords written down and unique and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts on actually implementing this tech?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that most people who are online should

1941
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Speaker 9: have a password manager. I do think that there's a

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Speaker 9: certain set of people who would be fine with a

1943
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Speaker 9: piece of paper if they only have, you know, an

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Speaker 9: email account and you know, maybe a couple of newspaper

1945
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Speaker 9: logins or whatever their bank. But if you have more

1946
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Speaker 9: than fifteen passwords or so, that becomes pretty untenable, and

1947
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Speaker 9: a password manager can help ease that. And it's more

1948
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Speaker 9: likely that one of the companies you have an account

1949
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Speaker 9: at is going to have a data breach than a

1950
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Speaker 9: password manager in most cases.

1951
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Speaker 1: And once you start reusing those passwords, they will find

1952
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: where you've used them in other places.

1953
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Speaker 2: And exploit that.

1954
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Speaker 9: Yep, exactly.

1955
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Speaker 1: Okay, So the password manager situation, I mean, first off,

1956
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 1: you've got these built in password managers, like I know

1957
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: iOS has one, the iCloud keychain, and then Google really

1958
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,759
Speaker 1: pushes THEIRS, which they recently updated so that it works

1959
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: pretty well cross platform on iOS and Android and Chrome,

1960
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: which is like a majority of what people do. So

1961
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: do you recommend those.

1962
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 2: At all or no?

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Speaker 9: Yes and no. I think that if you are not

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Speaker 9: super tech savvy and you stick within the ecosystem of

1965
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Speaker 9: the products that you buy. So if you're ever you

1966
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 9: have an Android phone and you kind of everything you

1967
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,719
Speaker 9: do is in Chrome on your desktop, you're an Apple

1968
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Speaker 9: user and you have an iPhone and iPad and you

1969
01:37:39,439 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 9: use Safari on your Mac, then the built in ones

1970
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 9: are probably actually going to be fine for you. If

1971
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 9: you use a lot of different browsers, or if you

1972
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 9: tend to bounce between operating systems, maybe you have a

1973
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 9: Windows computer and an iPhone, it starts to there's a

1974
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 9: lot of friction there that makes it untenable to use

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01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 9: on a day to day basis, I would say.

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Speaker 1: And I mean the other fear is like I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of this whole like iPhone, you

1978
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 1: know pin like you know, pin hijacking, passcode hijacking, whatever

1979
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: you want to call it. I mean, looking over your shoulder,

1980
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 1: it's not even a hijack. They're just watching you put

1981
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: in your code. And I was surprised because I went

1982
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: through and I kind of tested that stuff, and I

1983
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,440
Speaker 1: looked at the password manager, which I don't use on

1984
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 1: on iOS, the keychain thing, and yeah, it authorizes via

1985
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Speaker 1: your face ID, but if that fails, then it goes

1986
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Speaker 1: to your passcode. So basically, if someone has a passcode

1987
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Speaker 1: to your phone, now they have the code to all

1988
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Speaker 1: of your passwords. If you're using that device, that's kind

1989
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Speaker 1: of scary.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree, And I think it's it's all

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Speaker 9: about just kind of figuring out what you need in

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Speaker 9: that moment. I personally don't like to put all of

1993
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:48,639
Speaker 9: my eggs in one basket in that way. But also

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Speaker 9: I feel like it's so important that people use unique

1995
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 9: passwords that what they will use is what they should use.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if your iPhone's suggesting like, hey, can we

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01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: create password and save it for you, like unless you

1998
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,400
Speaker 1: have a reason that you want to use something else,

1999
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: like that's just go for it. Yep, Okay, So with

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Speaker 1: that said, with these third party password managers, what do

2001
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 1: you recommend and why.

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01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,920
Speaker 9: We recommend too? One Password and Bitwarden. One Password is

2003
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 9: a paid subscription, which I know a lot of people

2004
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 9: don't like, but in the case of security software, I mean,

2005
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 9: you can kind of see where the money is going.

2006
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 9: They update their Apple lot. It works extremely well across

2007
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 9: operating systems and devices. It's pretty to look at as

2008
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 9: far as software can get anyway, and it just is

2009
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 9: kind of a seamless process no matter where you're at.

2010
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 9: And it's probably has the best onboarding of any password

2011
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 9: manager I've ever used, where if you have never used

2012
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 9: a password manager before, it kind of guides you toward

2013
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 9: what you're doing and helps you set it up securely.

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Speaker 4: The way it.

2015
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 9: Works is that they use a special secret key that

2016
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 9: you actually literally have to print out whenever you first

2017
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,400
Speaker 9: set it up, which helps prevent issues like the last

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01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 9: pass issues. Doesn't make it impenetrable, but it does make

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01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 9: it would make it much harder for anyone to ever

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01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 9: get into your account without that long code that they

2021
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 9: have you print out. And if you don't like paying

2022
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 9: for things, I also like bit Warden, which is a

2023
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 9: little bit clunkier, but gets the job done and it's

2024
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 9: free or ten dollars for the year I think is

2025
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:26,640
Speaker 9: their subscription.

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Speaker 4: It's very very cheap.

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Speaker 1: It's not as like polished like it's it's great and

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01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: it's nice that they still offer a free option, which

2029
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these other ones don't, but it's not

2030
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: as maybe not as slick like I actually got my

2031
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Speaker 1: try to get my dad to use bitwarden, and when

2032
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:43,800
Speaker 1: I was setting it up for him, I was like,

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01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,640
Speaker 1: it's good, and it's great for like a you know,

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Speaker 1: if you have a couple, like a couple devices like

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01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: he you know, he's not got too much stuff, but

2036
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Speaker 1: it just it became a little bit like clunky. I

2037
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: was like, eh, this is so I actually switched to

2038
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: the Google situation because I was like, this is just easier,

2039
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 1: you know.

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01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 9: That's kind of what I've usually recommend with like friends

2041
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 9: and family who aren't super tech savvy. I'll usually start

2042
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 9: them with the built in options or with one password,

2043
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:10,200
Speaker 9: kind of depending on where they're at in that spectrum.

2044
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 9: More advanced folks can use bitworden very easily, or if

2045
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 9: you just start with one password, gets super comfortable with it,

2046
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 9: don't want to pay for it anymore, you can export

2047
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 9: everything over to bitwarden and a.

2048
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 12: Couple of clicks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that was my next question. So in fact,

2050
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I just went to one passwords website, which by the way,

2051
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: is one. It's the number one password dot com. And

2052
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: so I went there and it's like time for a

2053
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,720
Speaker 1: new password manager will credit you for any remaining time

2054
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: on your current bill. But how easy is it to

2055
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: switch password manager providers?

2056
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 9: It's I would say, very easy. It's kind of just

2057
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 9: export a big spreadsheet file and then you import it

2058
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 9: into the new one. As long as you've used you know,

2059
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 9: Excel once in your life, you'll you'll understand what you

2060
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 9: need to do pretty pretty quickly.

2061
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Speaker 2: Now here's my question.

2062
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 1: When you're exporting these things, isn't it just like a

2063
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 1: comma separated value, Like there's no like lock on that file.

2064
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 1: So do you recommend like deleting that immediately, like getting

2065
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 1: like shredding that file on your computer when you're done?

2066
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would, yeah, I would definitely make sure that

2067
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 9: make sure everything imported properly and then and then delete

2068
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 9: everything right and then delete the file.

2069
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So and then what about people are also looking

2070
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,400
Speaker 1: into like these physical keys. Is that even has that

2071
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: been a thing or passwordless? You know, we hear this

2072
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 1: whole idea of like the future being passwordless any of

2073
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: that stuff.

2074
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 2: In reality, I.

2075
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 9: Think that passwordless will be a reality and we'll start

2076
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 9: seeing it more over the next couple of years. Chrome

2077
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 9: on Android and on iPhones pass keys are kind of

2078
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 9: like slowly trickling out. And what those are basically a

2079
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 9: passwordless login that ties your device that you're logging in

2080
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:57,560
Speaker 9: from to the account, so there's no password. It authenticates

2081
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 9: through like your phone, So if you aren't to log

2082
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 9: in from a computer, you'd actually have to tap a

2083
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 9: thing on your phone, which is great for security. It

2084
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 9: you know, there might be privacy implications with that in

2085
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 9: the future, but again it's kind of like the less

2086
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 9: the fewer people who are using reused passwords everywhere, the better.

2087
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2088
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: So, and I've noticed that Google and you know with this,

2089
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,960
Speaker 1: uh even I don't know how they do it, but

2090
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 1: it's like the they're asking you to like tap something

2091
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 1: on a different device that you own sometimes when you

2092
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: log into your account, which is kind of like getting

2093
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 1: around those you know, they used to send one time

2094
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: passcodes to your phone and now it's like they're they're

2095
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: figuring out like, Okay, this might be a more secure

2096
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: way of doing Basically, these tech companies are learning how

2097
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: to protect our They're learning to protect us from ourselves

2098
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: because we don't even know what these what we're up against.

2099
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the Google prompts are sometimes baffling, but

2100
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 9: I do think that they are they're good at the

2101
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 9: long run. Even if you're like, you want me to

2102
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 9: tap on YouTube ware on.

2103
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 4: What what are you talking about?

2104
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure you have a bunch of devices like

2105
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: I do. It's always the one device that I either

2106
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: don't have near me or I haven't used in a while.

2107
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you asking about that device? Like,

2108
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 1: why not the iPad that's like sitting right here next

2109
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 1: to me?

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01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 2: All right?

2111
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: Thorn Clozowski from Wirecutter Security Expert tell folks how they

2112
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: can find you and the stuff that you write about.

2113
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can find everything on wirecutter dot com. If

2114
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 9: you click around on any of the electronic stuff, you'll

2115
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 9: inevitably come across one of the variety of privacy and

2116
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 9: security guides that we have for helping you secure your

2117
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 9: whole life.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks, So much for helping us demystify the

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Speaker 1: world of password managers.

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Speaker 2: Again.

2121
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: The recommendations are one password if you want a paid option,

2122
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 1: and bitwarden if you want something that's free. Or of

2123
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,040
Speaker 1: course you can just use the built in stuff if

2124
01:44:44,040 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: you want to do that and just take the easier

2125
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: way out of things. All right, coming up, got a

2126
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 1: couple of things before we close out the show. I'm

2127
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,360
Speaker 1: going to tell you about di iPhone Clean Energy Charging.

2128
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: We're going to tell you why people are up in

2129
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: arms about that. I'm gonna give you the feedback on

2130
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,680
Speaker 1: last week's show. Some of the emails like plus a

2131
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: website that uses chat GPT to come up with travel itineraries.

2132
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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. It's all coming up right here on

2133
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Speaker 1: rich on Tech. You are listening to me, Rich DeMuro.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back in a bit. Welcome back to rich

2135
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Speaker 1: on Tech. Rich DeMuro here. So, if you're on social

2136
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,720
Speaker 1: media at all, over the next couple of days, you

2137
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: might see some folks complaining about an iPhone feature called

2138
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:34,520
Speaker 1: iPhone Clean Energy Charging. People are complaining that their iPhones

2139
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,760
Speaker 1: are charging slower, and it's all due to this new

2140
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: feature that Apple snuck onto the iPhone.

2141
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't sneak it in.

2142
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: It's a feature they talked about and it's in iOS

2143
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,880
Speaker 1: sixteen point one and it came out in October. But

2144
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: people are just noticing it. But the reality is, yes,

2145
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: it may charge your phone a little bit differently.

2146
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 2: Is it slower? I don't know.

2147
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: So let me tell you what's going on here. There's

2148
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Speaker 1: a setting inside the battery settings on the iPhone that's

2149
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 1: on by default called clean Energy Charging. And what this

2150
01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:11,840
Speaker 1: does is it kind of recognizes the patterns of how

2151
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 1: you charge your phone, and it looks for efficiencies, and

2152
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:19,679
Speaker 1: most notably, it tries to charge your phone more when

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Speaker 1: clean energy sources are available.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean.

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Speaker 1: It means that it looks where you're charging your phone,

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Speaker 1: and if it notices that clean energy you plug your

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Speaker 1: phone in at eight pm and clean energy starts at nine,

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Speaker 1: it will try to focus more on charging starting at nine.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a very simplified way of explaining it. But

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Speaker 1: the reality is a couple things. Number One, your phone

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Speaker 1: is always going to charge, and this should be invisible

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Speaker 1: to the end user, so you should never really notice

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Speaker 1: that this is happening. Apple is only doing this when

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Speaker 1: you are at your home area, like an area where

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Speaker 1: you charge your phone a loss. So let me give

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Speaker 1: you an example. If you plug in your phone every

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Speaker 1: night at six pm and you wake up, well, let's

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Speaker 1: make it later nine pm, and you wake up every

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Speaker 1: day at five am. Apple knows that you charge your

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Speaker 1: phone because they look at I think they tell you

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Speaker 1: how many days they look at your charging activity. It

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Speaker 1: learns your activities over a certain period of time. And

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Speaker 1: this is all spelled out by the way on the

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Speaker 1: Apple website.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Needs fourteen days to learn your charging habits, and it

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Speaker 1: also needs to experience nine charges of at least five

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Speaker 1: hours or more in a given location for this to engage.

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Speaker 1: So it's not something that just happens the first time

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Speaker 1: you plug in your phone. It's something that over time,

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Speaker 1: your phone will notice your patterns and say, oh, we

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Speaker 1: can save some energy or save some you know, save

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Speaker 1: the environment by doing this in a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a different way. Now, a lot of these articles are

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Speaker 1: suggesting that you turn this feature off. I don't think

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Speaker 1: you should turn this off. Apple has millions upon millions

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Speaker 1: of iPhones getting charged charged every single day in the US.

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Speaker 1: If they can maybe change and affect the environment in

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Speaker 1: just one percent.

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Speaker 2: With these phones.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing to reduce the environmental impact. So

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Speaker 1: you can opt out if you want, But I think

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Speaker 1: that the bottom line is you shouldn't even notice that

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Speaker 1: this is happening on your phone, and Apple even spells

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Speaker 1: out if you do notice that they're you. You plug

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Speaker 1: in your phone and you get a notification on your

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Speaker 1: lock screen that says energy clean energy charging is in

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Speaker 1: effect and your charging is suspended. All you have to

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Speaker 1: do is press a hold on that notification and click

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Speaker 1: or tap charge now, and your phone will start charging immediately.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is, if you're traveling, if you're in

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Speaker 1: a hotel room, if you're anywhere else, it's not going

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Speaker 1: to activate. It's only when you're at your home and

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01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: you plug in basically before bed. So anyway, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of to do about that for nothing, I think,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's see John and Appleton Wisconsin says your

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Speaker 1: information is topical and relevant. This the feedback section, by

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01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 1: the way, for the tech newbie, and I enjoy your

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Speaker 1: choice of guests. When you mentioned an app or a website,

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Speaker 1: would you mind including the spelling. So many app developers

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Speaker 1: take a common word and put their own unique spin

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Speaker 1: on it. It would make searching less frustrating and keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work. Absolutely, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot to mention.

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Speaker 1: I want to mention this website which I will spell

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Speaker 1: Roam around dot Io. This is a website that uses

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Speaker 1: chat gpt to come up with itineraries for travel, and

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Speaker 1: so I just typed in Portland going on March twelfth

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Speaker 1: and staying for two nights, and it came up with

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Speaker 1: a whole itinerary. Start your day off at the Portland

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Speaker 1: Japanese Garden, then go to Powell City of Books, then

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Speaker 1: go to the Saturday Market, then go to the Museum

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Speaker 1: of Science and Industry, then have dinner at Lee Pete

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Speaker 1: looks like Pigeon. I'm guessing is Les Pijon. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: a place. Day two, go to the go to the Mansion,

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Speaker 1: then Voodoo donat, than the Art Museum, than Washington Park

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Speaker 1: and then I guess get out of there anyway. So

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Speaker 1: cool Roam around dot Io is the website chat gpt

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Speaker 1: has just single handedly changed everything about how we do

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Speaker 1: stuff online. And we are just beginning to see this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Folks from Roam around dot Io told me that in launch.

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Speaker 1: They've seen fifty to one hundred and fifty thousand visits

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Speaker 1: per day, generating two hundred thousand itineraries in one day.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna come up with some updates that let

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Speaker 1: you do some fun stuff too, if you want maybe

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Speaker 1: Doctor Seuss to write your itinerary, or you know, get

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Speaker 1: an email itinerary. But anyway, a roam around that dot io.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking to plan your summer.

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Speaker 2: Travel, check it out. Kind of cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now back to the feedback segment Chris Hoover.

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Speaker 1: Chris says, in regards to the radio show question involving

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Speaker 1: multiple computers with one keyboard and mouse, the Logitech MK

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01:50:56,760 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: eight fifty combo can control three computers, one with a

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01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: dongle too with the keyboard keyboard layout is also set

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Speaker 1: up for Mac and Windows computers. Chris says, thanks for

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Speaker 1: all the info each week. And finally, I got so

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Speaker 1: much feedback on the question about a camera in a

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Speaker 1: remote area. I'm not gonna read through all these, but basically,

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Speaker 1: a trailcam is what the caller needs. A trailcam has

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Speaker 1: sensor activated recording and is solar powered as well. So

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Speaker 1: this is a remote camera that does not need an

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Speaker 1: internet connection to record, battery powered, waterproof, all that good stuff.

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01:51:32,040 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for all the feedback on that. If you can

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Speaker 1: believe it, that is going to do it for this

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Speaker 1: episode of the show. Thanks so much for listening. Next week,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a ride in a Lucid electric car.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on social media at rich on tech,

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Speaker 1: the website rich on tech dot TV. My name is

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Speaker 1: rich Demiro. Thanks so much for listening. There are so

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Speaker 1: many ways you can spend your time. I do appreciate

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Speaker 1: you spending it right here with me. Definitely check out

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Speaker 1: my website to see my TV segments. If you want

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Speaker 1: to see what I do KTLA Channel five, it's all

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Speaker 1: right there rich on tech dot TV, and of course

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Speaker 1: find me on social media. Check out my Canva designs.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a design artist by any means, believe me,

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Speaker 1: but I've been having so much fun doing that. All right,

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Speaker 1: this was a blast. I will see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being here with me. I'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: real soon.