WEBVTT - Season 08 Episode 40: It's Inside the House

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, it's Richard mccleinsmith here with a quick update before

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<v Speaker 1>you on board. In the year eleven thirteen, the third

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<v Speaker 1>Abbot of Saint Martin of Tournay documented something extraordinary in

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<v Speaker 1>christ Church, a small town on the south coast of

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<v Speaker 1>England just east of Bournemouth. It was a five headed

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<v Speaker 1>dragon that, according to the abbot, emerged from the sea

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<v Speaker 1>before taking flight toward the town and destroying the church

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<v Speaker 1>along with the number of nearby houses. Nine centuries later,

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<v Speaker 1>the rebuilt priory still draws reports of phantom footsteps in

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<v Speaker 1>its ruins, and the supposed apparition of an old caretaker

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<v Speaker 1>nicknamed Old Joe, claimed by some to have been seen

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<v Speaker 1>wandering about its gardens. These are just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the strained sightings and hauntings that are said to have

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<v Speaker 1>accumulated around the town of christ Church over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>But perhaps the most distressing is the story of Alma Rattenbury,

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<v Speaker 1>whose ghostly figure has reportedly been seen sitting mournfully among

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<v Speaker 1>the reeds on the banks of the River Stour, not

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<v Speaker 1>far from the priory. It was back in June nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five that Alma, her handbag gripped tightly in her hand,

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<v Speaker 1>wandered forlornly through the meadows down to the water's edge,

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<v Speaker 1>as buttercups swayed gently in the breeze and swallows warboard above.

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<v Speaker 1>She pulled a knife from the bag and proceeded to

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<v Speaker 1>stab herself in the chest six times. Having pierced her heart,

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<v Speaker 1>the bloody knife slipped from her grip and Alma fell

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<v Speaker 1>dead into the water. Almer's was a tragic and fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>story that gripped the nation at the time. A talented

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<v Speaker 1>musician born in Canada in eighteen ninety seven, the dark

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<v Speaker 1>haired Alma lost her first husband to the First World War,

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<v Speaker 1>with her second marriage ending in an acrimonious divorce. She

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<v Speaker 1>eventually settled in Bournemouth, England, with a third husband, the

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<v Speaker 1>architect Francis Rattenbury, who was forty years her senior. By

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts, the marriage was a stale one in which

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<v Speaker 1>the couples let in separate rooms. After the birth of

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<v Speaker 1>their first child in nineteen twenty eight, they were said

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<v Speaker 1>to have remained celibate. The couple often quarreled, with Francis Rattenbury,

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<v Speaker 1>at times physically assaulting his wife. In nineteen thirty four,

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<v Speaker 1>they took on a seventeen year old servant named George Stoner.

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<v Speaker 1>Within a year, Stoner and Alma began an affair, which

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<v Speaker 1>was known about and tolerated by Almer's husband. Nonetheless, clearly

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<v Speaker 1>the situation was not to every one's liking. In March

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<v Speaker 1>the following year, Francis Rattenbury was brutally battered in the

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<v Speaker 1>head by a carpenter's mallet. He died five days later

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<v Speaker 1>from his wounds. Alma quickly confessed to the murder, and

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<v Speaker 1>both she and George Stoner were arrested for the crime.

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<v Speaker 1>After a gripping court case covered by all the daily papers,

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<v Speaker 1>Alma Rattenbury was found not guilty for the murder of

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<v Speaker 1>her husband. George Stoner, on the other hand, was not

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<v Speaker 1>so lucky. He was convicted and sentenced to death. Alma

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<v Speaker 1>was devastated by the decision, and in the court of

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<v Speaker 1>public opinion, was still very much a guilty party, having

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<v Speaker 1>been blamed for coercing the impressionable Stoner into doing the deed.

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<v Speaker 1>In the days after the conviction, Alma struggled desperately with

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<v Speaker 1>the guilt of what had happened to George. Feeling very

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<v Speaker 1>much the pariah the nation believed her to be, she

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<v Speaker 1>made her way to the banks of the Stour on

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<v Speaker 1>the southern fringes of Christchurch and ended her life. As

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<v Speaker 1>it transpired. Not long after Alma's death, after a public outcry,

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<v Speaker 1>George Stoner was oldultimately spared the death penalty. His sentence

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<v Speaker 1>was reduced to life imprisonment instead. Only seven years later,

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<v Speaker 1>in return for signing up to fight in World War II,

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<v Speaker 1>he had his conviction quashed entirely. He returned a free

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<v Speaker 1>man and eventually died in the year two thousand. But

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<v Speaker 1>why am I telling you all this, I suppose just

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<v Speaker 1>to demonstrate that no matter how quaint or small a

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<v Speaker 1>town may be, tragedy and emotional distress is never far away.

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<v Speaker 1>The sort of things that some believe can linger as

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<v Speaker 1>dark and malicious energies, only to then manifest in invisible

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<v Speaker 1>and terrifying ways, just as they are believed to have

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<v Speaker 1>done by one family who lived in christ Church back

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety seven. You're listening to Unexplained, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Richard mc lean smith. Before we go any further, I

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<v Speaker 1>should explain that we're going to try something a little

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<v Speaker 1>different with this week's episode. Earlier this summer, one of

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<v Speaker 1>our writers, Diane Hope, spent some time in Bournemouth, hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by a family who once lived in christ Church. One evening,

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<v Speaker 1>they began telling Diane of a strange series of events

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<v Speaker 1>that took place in their former christ Church home. Amazingly

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<v Speaker 1>for us, they agreed to share their story. However, we thought,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than write it up for me to tell, why

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<v Speaker 1>not just let the couple speak for themselves. It was

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<v Speaker 1>back in nineteen ninety six that Teresa and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>Sean moved down to Bournemouth from the northeast of England,

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<v Speaker 1>along with their young children, looking for a change of scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight months later, the landlord of the flat they were

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<v Speaker 1>renting decided to sell the property, forcing the fact family

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<v Speaker 1>to move again. The couple ran a used car business,

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<v Speaker 1>buying cars from the north of England and bringing them

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<v Speaker 1>down south to sell, so they needed somewhere with a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of space to park the cars. They settled

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<v Speaker 1>on the perfect place in the nearby town of christ Church,

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<v Speaker 1>not far from the banks of the River Stour. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I said the couple would tell us their story. However,

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<v Speaker 1>in the end Diane decided only to interview one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>A little more on that later, but for now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Terresa.

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<v Speaker 2>This property came up in christ Church and it had

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<v Speaker 2>a very long drive up to it, and we could

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<v Speaker 2>park a number of cars in the drive. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like the manor house at the back of the other properties,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was an older house which had been built

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<v Speaker 2>before the properties around it. It was secluded, like a

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<v Speaker 2>little forest at the back of it, so we thought

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<v Speaker 2>this is ideal.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost immediately, strange things began to.

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<v Speaker 2>Occur when we watched into the house. The first night

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<v Speaker 2>we moved in, I felt something touch my back. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't really explain what it was I felt. I just

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was strange, you know, like something was touching

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<v Speaker 2>my back. It was the first night we'd been in there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd never experienced anything like that previously.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it happened again the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the kid's bedroom and I felt it again,

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<v Speaker 2>a touch, you know, just touching me back. I just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't explain how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Theresa wasn't one to think it might be anything supernatural.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the thought couldn't have been further from her mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even mention it to Sean because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was worth mentioning something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wouldn't be long before Sean too became aware

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<v Speaker 1>of strange goings on because the creepy of events began

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<v Speaker 1>to escalate.

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<v Speaker 2>We were in the living room one night, which faced

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. The window face the garden, and we're just

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<v Speaker 2>watching Telly and we heard somebody run past the window.

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<v Speaker 2>You could literally hair running, maybe like they had big

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<v Speaker 2>boots on or something.

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<v Speaker 1>The garden was equipped with motion Sense, a security lights

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<v Speaker 1>designed to be triggered if anyone was trying to break in.

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<v Speaker 1>Or trespass on the property.

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<v Speaker 2>We looked out and the lights hadn't come on. So

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<v Speaker 2>Shark got up and you know, went outside, and as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as he went outside, the lights lit up. It

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<v Speaker 2>seemed strange how you could hear something and then as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as he went outside, everything lit up. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first experience after what happened to me, which

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't explain.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no hiding it now. Theresa confessed to her

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<v Speaker 1>husband that she'd been sensing something strange going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the house for a while, and soon the couple began

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<v Speaker 1>hearing the supposed footsteps inside their home.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd be sat in the living room on a night

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<v Speaker 2>and we could hear running up and down the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was a bungalow, we all slept downstairs, big

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<v Speaker 2>kid's bedroom at the back. Our bedroom was opposite the lounge,

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<v Speaker 2>the hallway was in between, and we could literally hear

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<v Speaker 2>somebody running up and down the hallway, and we'd open

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<v Speaker 2>the living room door and there was nobody there.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps, wandered Terresa, it was all just in their imaginations,

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of the stress of adapting to life in

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<v Speaker 1>the new home and the unfamiliarity of their surroundings, but

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<v Speaker 1>she couldn't quite shake the sense that there was something

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<v Speaker 1>more going on, and that they might even be in

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<v Speaker 1>danger of somehow inviting it in.

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<v Speaker 2>We kept trying to pass things off as if did

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<v Speaker 2>we hear it are I didn't really like to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about in the house. I was scared that something might progress.

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<v Speaker 2>Shan was start of thinking what's going to happen next,

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<v Speaker 2>and now thinking I hope nothing happens and.

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<v Speaker 1>Eggs a few nights later to raise her and Sean

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<v Speaker 1>was sat in the lounge watching television when Sean started

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<v Speaker 1>hearing something, a peculiar squeaking sound that seemed to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the back of the room. It sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>the lounge door handle.

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<v Speaker 2>We thought we heard it creaking, so we turned Helly

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<v Speaker 2>down and Chan said I heard that handle. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I heard it. We both sat there, face

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<v Speaker 2>in the door, looking straight at the handill. My eyes

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<v Speaker 2>were literalist into water. I was looking at it so closely,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden it just went I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the shock. Shan flew back on the chair. It were like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did that just happen? And I jumped up and

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<v Speaker 2>I opened the door and the kids weren't there. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly it wasn't so easy to dismiss it all as

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<v Speaker 1>an overactive imagination, and before long others started to sense

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<v Speaker 1>it too. It had been a while since the couple

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<v Speaker 1>last had some quality time together, so one night they

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<v Speaker 1>hired a babysitter and went out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>This young girl baby sat one evening when we were

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<v Speaker 2>back in the house. She was in the living room

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<v Speaker 2>with the door open. The telly wasn't switched down. She

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<v Speaker 2>just sat there and I thought, eyes everything okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously I hadn't mentioned anything, as she just went yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but with a really she looked scared.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no doubt in Teresa's mind that the girl

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<v Speaker 1>had heard or seen something, but Teresa couldn't possibly say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>For a start, she didn't want to scare the girl

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<v Speaker 1>unnecessary if she hadn't actually experienced anything untoward. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was little doubting the look on her face. The next

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<v Speaker 1>time the babysitter came round, she made sure to bring

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<v Speaker 1>a companion.

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<v Speaker 2>She came with her mom then the next time, but

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<v Speaker 2>then they didn't want to come back to the house again.

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<v Speaker 2>I never mentioned anything. They never mentioned anything. To me.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was the time their friend Lee came down

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<v Speaker 1>to visit from London. By now, Theresa and Sean were

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to talk openly about the possibility that their house

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<v Speaker 1>was being haunted.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd been friends with him from the previous house and

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<v Speaker 2>moved her and he was very confident and outgoing. We

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<v Speaker 2>came around and he was sort of laughing and joking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, then, where's this girls? It would just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make a big joke of it. Shoun said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't like it when you turn the Telly up loud,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when things start to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee, who was planning to stay the night with the family,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help but laugh. So Sean offered to give him

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<v Speaker 1>a demonstration, and so it was with everyone gathered in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room. The skeptical Lee watched on with a

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<v Speaker 1>right smile as Sean took the remote and switched on

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<v Speaker 1>the TV. Then he steadily increased the volume.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean just switched to Telly at full blast, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden we had this almighty bang. It went.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt as though the entire house were shaking.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounded like something crashing down on us. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have any big speakers. Where did this noise

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<v Speaker 2>come from?

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<v Speaker 1>The message was clear.

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<v Speaker 2>You were almost like, don't mess with me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt as for Lee. He wasn't laughing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee were like shocked. He was absolutely petrified from it

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<v Speaker 2>being just one big joke all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so scared that night, rather than stay with

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<v Speaker 1>the family, he immediately left the house and drove away

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<v Speaker 1>as fast as he could, white faced and extremely shaken.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the family were concerned, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>denying it now. In such circumstances, the first question people

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<v Speaker 1>tend to ask is why didn't they just leave? But

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<v Speaker 1>the couple had paid six months rent in advance, and

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<v Speaker 1>not only had they only been there for six weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have nearly enough money to move again, so prematurely,

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<v Speaker 1>appeals to the agent fell on deaf ears.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't even interested. They didn't come back to us

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<v Speaker 2>with any advice or anything, but didn't even ring us back.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, the family stuck it out as best they could,

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<v Speaker 1>only for things to get even more disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a beautiful sunny day. We'd just come back

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<v Speaker 2>from being out and we'd come back in. The kids

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<v Speaker 2>ran into their bedroom and all of a sudden they

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<v Speaker 2>were screaming. We ran into the bedroom. There was literally

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<v Speaker 2>like black sand and grit mixed with water dripping down

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<v Speaker 2>the walls, and there were circles of it on each bed.

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<v Speaker 1>The children claimed the sandy substance had been thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>them the moment they entered the room to raise Her

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<v Speaker 1>and Sean couldn't get their heads around it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like they had bucket and spade and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of sound in the bedroom and they'd been messing

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And as for the possibility that someone had thrown it

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<v Speaker 1>into the house from outside, we couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Even open the windows in their bedroom. They'd been painted shut.

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<v Speaker 2>This is something now that couldn't explain. Before we could say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we heard these noises. It might have been the radiator

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<v Speaker 2>of you could sort of try to explain your off

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Whereas now this was something which we

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't explain.

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<v Speaker 1>More than that, Theresa now had to face a new

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<v Speaker 1>horror that whatever this appeared to be turning its attention

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<v Speaker 1>on the children.

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<v Speaker 2>That was really frightening. After that, I saw a big

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<v Speaker 2>spider in the kid's bedroom. It looked like a transler.

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<v Speaker 2>It was huge. I had this tape recorder deck thing

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<v Speaker 2>and it crawled into it. So I shut the tape

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<v Speaker 2>recorder and threw it in the bit and Shan would

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<v Speaker 2>why would you do that? I was so scared of

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<v Speaker 2>it coming back in because it was absolutely huge. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to getting back out of that tape deck.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how scared I was. First it was outside, then

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<v Speaker 2>it's in the hall. Then it's like the banging, then

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<v Speaker 2>the sand in the kid's bedroom, and then the spider.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt everything was, you know, why is this happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Thought of thing, and it was all drawn towards a

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<v Speaker 2>kid's bedroom as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The spider was the final straw. The family needed help.

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<v Speaker 1>But where do you even turn to for that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't the Internet in them days. We just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what to do. But that was really frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, Theresa and Sean reached out to a

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<v Speaker 1>friend from back home in Bradford.

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<v Speaker 2>We ran a friend of ours who was a preacher

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<v Speaker 2>in Bradford called Bob's given us his Bible as a

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<v Speaker 2>leaving pression. We just tesked him if there's anything, if

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<v Speaker 2>what we could do, because it keeps happening and we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't know what to do. First, he said you

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<v Speaker 2>need to leave, and we said we're with pay six months.

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<v Speaker 2>In our fans, there are only two months. Saying it's

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<v Speaker 2>cat hard to just upsticks.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob suggested he leave it with them. A short time later,

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<v Speaker 1>he called them back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brought to the elders of his church, and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to read in the Bible here though what

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<v Speaker 2>through the vallee of no able to our fear, and

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<v Speaker 2>read these verses and go with the children into every room,

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<v Speaker 2>the garage, the call shed, everywhere. You need to recite

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<v Speaker 2>these verses.

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<v Speaker 1>And so together the family gathered first in the living

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<v Speaker 1>room and did exactly as Bob told them to do,

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<v Speaker 1>moving steadily from one room to the next, reciting Psalm

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three from the Bible. The last space to exercise

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<v Speaker 1>was the garage. When that was done, Theresa felt the

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<v Speaker 1>change almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>I said to Sean, do you feel like something is

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<v Speaker 2>just lifted off you? And he said, yeah, we actually

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<v Speaker 2>felt it lift off us. It's like you have this

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<v Speaker 2>heavy feeling overa which I didn't even realize. We had

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<v Speaker 2>it literally lifted away from us.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only did the negative feelings disappear, the couple's work

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<v Speaker 1>even began to pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>For the last three or four months, it was just

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<v Speaker 2>a different feeling altogether. There were trading cars to the

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<v Speaker 2>main dealers at the time, and every time I rang something,

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<v Speaker 2>it were almost like it turned to gold. We were

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<v Speaker 2>making more money than we'd ever made, even just trading cars,

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<v Speaker 2>and before that we hadn't done half as much as

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<v Speaker 2>what we met in that house. So it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good thing from a bad thing, which

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<v Speaker 2>I can't explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Although Theresa no longer felt the unwanted presence in her house,

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<v Speaker 1>she often found herself wondering what on earth it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps she thought it had something to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious box they found in the attic shortly after they

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<v Speaker 1>moved in.

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<v Speaker 2>There was an upstairs bedroom. There were ladders what you

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<v Speaker 2>had to pull down to get up there. There this

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<v Speaker 2>box there. It was probably three foot by two for something,

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<v Speaker 2>but the weight of it you couldn't possibly lift it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how they got it up there,

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<v Speaker 2>because you couldn't physically put it up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Though they couldn't get into it, they could tell it

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<v Speaker 1>had something inside it.

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<v Speaker 2>They could hear something rattling around in it, but we

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<v Speaker 2>never found the key for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was, the family never found out in any case.

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<v Speaker 1>As the weeks went by, they soon forgot all about

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<v Speaker 1>those peculiar and terrifying first few months as their lives

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<v Speaker 1>moved on. But the terror wasn't over. When the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>month Lise was up, the time came to leave the property.

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<v Speaker 1>After packing everything up inside, Teresa and Sean headed into

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<v Speaker 1>the garden to gather all the toys that their kids

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<v Speaker 1>had left scattered about. Then Sean turned and looked up

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<v Speaker 1>at the attic.

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<v Speaker 2>Win though he just turned round to look at the windows,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sean said he felt like somebody were looking at

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<v Speaker 2>him through that window. He just dropped the toys.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean hustled Theresa and the kids into the car and

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<v Speaker 1>drove off at speed, leaving the toys strewn on the lawn.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't see anybody, he knew there was somebody looking

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<v Speaker 2>at him, or something looking at him, which really scared him.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until years later that the family realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the attic was the one room where they hadn't recited

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<v Speaker 1>Psalm twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three, we had prayed in that room. Bob said, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure you praying everywhere the garage outside, and we hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>physically gone up there with the kids. It was almost

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<v Speaker 2>like we trapped it.

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<v Speaker 1>Upstairs, but that wasn't all.

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<v Speaker 2>Years and years later we're talking about it and my

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<v Speaker 2>son said, well, you never liked that lady who we

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<v Speaker 2>used to stand next to a car. She used to

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<v Speaker 2>be stood next to carry along black hair, carrying wood.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids said, mum, musa ignoris used to be stood

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<v Speaker 2>next to the car. Obvious they hadn't seen anybody. They

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<v Speaker 2>could actually see something, which they never even said to

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<v Speaker 2>me until years later. Maybe because me and Sean never

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<v Speaker 2>said anything to them to scare them that they never

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Having had enough of old properties, the couple moved into

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<v Speaker 1>a newly built housing estate on the north side of Bournemouth. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they felt had stalked them in christ Church didn't

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<v Speaker 1>follow them into their new property.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, I would have said absolutely that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the paranormal or girl's share. Since that experience,

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely some form of activity. And also when we

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<v Speaker 2>did pray about it, it did go away or nearly

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<v Speaker 2>went away.

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<v Speaker 1>Recently, Theresa has watched a number of pro guns featuring

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<v Speaker 1>people who claim to have experienced poltergeist hauntings the way

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<v Speaker 1>events Onfold are only too familiar to her.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen programs on telling where mediums go in there

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<v Speaker 2>and they do pray to lift the spirit away from

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<v Speaker 2>the house, and the owners do feel like this way

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<v Speaker 2>it's being lifted off the And I know exactly how

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that feels, because I've experienced it. I understand, and if

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<v Speaker 2>people haven't experienced it, they can't relate to it until

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<v Speaker 2>you have to go through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost thirty years later, Theresa has never stopped wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>there was a reason for it all.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how previously lived there. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>any past history. Even now I've looked on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe somebody will know. Somebody will know. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>quite a not so pleasant ending for somebody. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>what drew them. They say that manor houses and like

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<v Speaker 2>coach houses can be counted, and this was the manor house.

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<v Speaker 1>You may remember. Back near the start of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that Diane, who recorded this interview, decided only

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<v Speaker 1>to record Theresa's version of events. The reason is because

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<v Speaker 1>when Diane first spoke to Theresa and Sean about the story,

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear that Sean found it uncomfortable. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to Diane like he was reliving the whole traumatic experience

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<v Speaker 1>all over again. The couple had avoided speaking about it

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty years, worried that by doing so they might

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<v Speaker 1>somehow invite the darkness back into their lives, So Diane

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<v Speaker 1>decided it was probably best not to push Sean to

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<v Speaker 1>formally record his account. Just then, Sean said he felt

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<v Speaker 1>something in his back, as though someone had just prodded

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<v Speaker 1>him with a finger. They carried on talking, then Sean

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<v Speaker 1>felt the prod again, and that was enough to make

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<v Speaker 1>him stop. After all, it was exactly how things had

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<v Speaker 1>started all those years ago. If there's anyone out there

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<v Speaker 1>who's heard anything about possible strange goings on in an

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<v Speaker 1>old manor house in christ Church with a long driveway

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<v Speaker 1>alongside it, feel free to get in touch with us

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<v Speaker 1>at Unexplained pod at gmail dot com. We'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear more. In the meantime, whatever it was that occurred

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<v Speaker 1>into Resa and Sean's home back in nineteen ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>remains to this day unexplained. Thank you so much to

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa and Sean for sharing their story with us, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to Diane for finding and recording it. The

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the episode was written and produced by me

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<v Speaker 1>Richard mcleaye Smith. Diane is an audio producer and sound

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<v Speaker 1>about her work at Dianhope dot com and on Instagram

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