1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: What is up straight FIREFAMP. It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: Fire for Tuesday, July twenty third. Boy, folks, I know 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: you may be out on basketball, although not many people 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: who listen to Spot are out of basketball. I know 6 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: some of you don't really care about the Olympics, and 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: I get that. I totally understand all that. But I'm 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: going to be one thousand percent honest when I say, folks, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: we've been hyping this USA basketball, the competitive level in 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: the Olympics here in Paris. Over the next couple of weeks, 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: it is going to be fascinating to watch the USA 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: against Germany and Exhibition start to pull away, then they 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: give up, you know, a big run. Then they start 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: to pull away, give up a big run. Then they're 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: trailing for like an entire quarter, and then with I 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: don't know seven minutes left, they're down five. To watch 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: them come back and watch the oldest guy on their team, 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: Lebron James, the oldest guy on the court, totally dominate 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: and just take over the game. He said, guys, we're 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: not losing. I'm gonna I'm gonna do this. Can you 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: hand me the basketball. 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: Lebron took the game over my guy. You know, I will, 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: I will, you know, put on the cape for Steph 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 2: Curry all the time. Curry a bit of a tough game. 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: And there was a moment he drove against Dennis Shreuter 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: and got his shot blocked by shrewder. Shreuter goes the 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: other way, throws an alley you for a dunk, and 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 2: it's like, oh my gosh. And folks by the way, 30 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: like I love Curry, he's my guy. His coach is 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr pulled Curry. I think it was 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: like the final ninety seconds after a timeout they had, 33 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: you know, they're coming out in defense. He put in 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: Drew Holliday for Steph and I saw it, and I 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: didn't put anything on social. I didn't see anybody making 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: it a big deal out of it. I think that's 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: gonna be a thing because they were hunting my guy, 38 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Dennis freak Intruder and I if you watch 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: the Olympic men's basketball exhibitions, guys like Josh Gitty and 40 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: Dennis Shruter are kind of middling to nothing special in 41 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: the NBA. In international play. Oh my gosh, they are dynamic. 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: They're unbelievable in all aspects. Offensively, Dennis Shruter was hell 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: on wheels for the Lakers in this game against Germany, 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: and Josh Giddy had like eighteen seven and five. He 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: had good numbers. And to watch Shrewder go toe to 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: toe with Curry and then essentially there was like two 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: minutes left and he's calling for Curry. He's like, bring 48 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: him over here. I want that matchup. And the US 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: isn't totally great in their switches. So halfway over, Anthony 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: Edwards switches onto the guy who had been called for 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: the screen and Anthony Davis, I guess, didn't get the 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: memo and they ended up getting an open three. They 53 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: missed it, But man, that game, Rob, I thought that 54 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: was one of the most scintillating basketball games pre Olympics 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: you will see. And I had my wife, who was 56 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: in the room, be like, wait, I don't remember the 57 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: USA Basketball exhibition. Is this a new thing? And I 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: thought for a sec, Damn, Rob, I can't remember the 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: last time that I was this into a USA Basketball 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: run up exhibition game. And the only answer I could 61 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 2: come up with is they're superstars at every country right 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: now playing basketball. Germany has one of the Wagner brothers, 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: who just sound like a two hundred million dollar deal. 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: They got shrewd. Daniel Tice has been a smart, rotational player. 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Wagner's good, and then the other guys just know how 66 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: to play basketball. It is. I'm just telling you Germany, 67 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: by the way, should get out of the group stage. 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 2: And Rob listen, I did this over the weekend with Sausudan. 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Some of you guys were not happy. I challenge you. 70 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: Take the Germany basketball roster. Go put it up against 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Croatia from ninety two the team the Dream Team smoked. Okay, 72 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 2: this Germany squad is better and deeper than that Croatia 73 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: team which had Drazen Petrovic and Tony Kuko. Okay, this 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: German team is very and they're not I don't even 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: think they're a top three team. That's the craziness. I'm 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: totally fascinated by this. Also, I'm into beach volleyball because 77 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: I live out here in the South Bay. Volleyball is huge. 78 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: A couple buddies I know play sometimes with Chase Budinger, 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: who is obviously going to represent the US. I believe 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: he's the first player or first athlete to go to 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: the Olympics in two sports. He obviously was on the 82 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: basketball Olympic team way back, and then he is on 83 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: the volleyball twos. So, like I don't know, I would 84 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: say basketball and volleyball for me are the two big ones. 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: I'm sure track is gonna be fun. It always is, 86 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: but the basketball one is basically circle the date, put 87 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: it in the calendar on your phone just so you 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: don't miss it. Because Rob, I'm just telling you, Germany 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: USA was tremendous on the heels of South Sudan USA. 90 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: It was an incredible game, especially if you're a Laker fan, 91 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: because Lebron James, for the second straight game when you 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 3: know it was nutcutting time, ended up being the best 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: player on the floor. And who would have thought at 94 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: age forty that Lebron James would still be doing Lebron 95 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: James type things. He finished the game twenty six and four, 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: eight of eleven, shooting two of two from three. Those 97 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: numbers don't even do it justice how good he was. 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: In crunch time. At the four oh eight mark, team 99 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: USA is down by one. Here's the stretch that coincide 100 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: lap of Lebron James, Lebron rebound, Lebron dunk, Lebron steal, 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Lebron layup, Lebron rebound, Lebron two free throws, Lebron rebound, 102 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Lebron two free throws. There's a little one minute stretcher, 103 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: nothing happens. Then it's Lebron James three pointer. Next thing 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: you know, Team USA goes from down one to up 105 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: by four with a minute and a half left, all 106 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: Lebron James. And now I can see if you watch 107 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: this game why you still not feel very optimistic about 108 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: Team USA's chances Because throughout most of the game, to 109 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: be quite honest with you, Germany looked like the better team. 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: They just play, wait a minute better. 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: They play a brand of basketball that is going to 112 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 3: supersede more talented teams that they there's very similar to. 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: I know this is like a really odd apples to 114 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: oranges conversation, but we've had this conversation on this podcast 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: before about the twenty fifteen twenty sixteen Warriors, the pre 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 3: KD Warriors versus Lebron's calves. And I've said on this podcast, 117 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: if you just went down the rosters and you said, 118 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 3: who has the more talented roster? I'm picking the Calves 119 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: ten out of ten times every day of the week. 120 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: Lebron Kyrie, Kevin Love j R. Smith Like, they were 121 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: absolutely loaded just in terms of talent what Golden State 122 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 3: had differently, even though they did have talent too with 123 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 3: you know, Steph Clay and Draymond. But what they did 124 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: is they played a style of basketball that fit them. 125 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: They ran a unique system, and what Germany was doing 126 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: throughout the game was running a system that was so 127 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: jarring when compared to what Team USAY was doing. Team 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: USA was IO heavy one pick and roll, but it 129 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: wasn't there. They kind of stood around and guy would 130 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: drive into the to the paint. Anthony Edwards don't like, like, 131 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: why is it Tatum doing any of that? Exactly? 132 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: It was just so much Anthony Edwards hyeh pick and roll, 133 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: whereas you're right, Germany's having the big guys curl off 134 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: the screens and just splash threes, and it was like, 135 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: oh yeah, they take DOWNSA. 136 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: They had a system that that works, and credit to them. 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: That's the reason why, you know, despite not being as 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: talented as USA, not being as talented as probably Canada. 139 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: You could argue how they compare against Australia and France 140 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: in terms of the roster they are, I believe the 141 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: reigning World Cup champions. They are the ranked number three 142 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: team in the world because they play good, fundamental, structured basketball. 143 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: And I think that USA is going to have a 144 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: rude awakening when they get to Paris and they run 145 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: into more teams like this. 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of reasons why Lebron is so good 147 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: Rob is people just I don't think everybody gets it. 148 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: All these dopes chiming in on social media. Well we're 149 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: was this in the playoffs, folks, That's at the end 150 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: of an eighty two game season. And oh, by the way, rob, 151 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: FIBA games are forty minutes long. NBA games are forty eight. 152 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: And Lebron's bench in the league. You don't need me 153 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: to go over how you go from. You know, who 154 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: do they have now coming off the bench? Anthony Edwards, 155 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: Bam out of Bio, Anthony Davis, all NBA guys. Whereas 156 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: with the Lakers, if Lebron needs a spell, it's like, oh, 157 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: it's Max Christie time, you know, Like Lebron doesn't have 158 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: to log forty minutes. They had a little respite after 159 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: the season, and he's playing with superstar, Like, you can't 160 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: straight up double Lebron. What are you gonna leave Devin Booker. Ope, 161 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: you're gonna leave Anthony Edwards. So you just can't do that. 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: He is the ultimate just chess piece in this and 163 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 2: the German guys who listened, like you said, they put 164 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: up a good fight. I don't know if they were 165 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: quite equal. USA led by seven most of the first half, 166 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: led by seven at halftime, eight at the end of 167 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: the first quarter. But I think the weird part is, 168 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: like I don't know how you stop Lebron if you're 169 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: you know, any other country like wee min Ya'm a 170 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: different story. But most of these Europeans like Lebron's quickness 171 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: and athleticism. Against a six to ten guy, he's gonna 172 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: win out all the time, you know. And on the 173 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: perimeter you can't have a guard guarding him because then 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: he blows by you. That's why, and yet another reason 175 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: he's to go. And this is not a knock on 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: Kobe or Michael Jordan, but like Kobe was a carbon 177 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: copy of Jordan, same height, same mannerisms, same everything. That's 178 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: where he was. You can't make a carbon copy of 179 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: six eight, two hundred and sixty pound Lebron Jake. That's impossible. 180 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: With his speed. You see him on the Boon, he drives, 181 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: it's over like nobody's stopping him on these drives. It's 182 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 2: crazy And I don't know, man. I guess the one 183 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: big thing Rob that I would ask you is as 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: they were coming back, of course, Joel ANDMB I haven't 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: seen a plus minus? Does the USA box scrab plus minus? 186 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: Rob? I have the plus minus right in front of 187 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: me if you're ready for Okay, so what do you 188 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: want to know? 189 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: I want to know Joel em beads plus minus. 190 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: Minus one in twenty one minutes. 191 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: I figured he was down a little because it felt 192 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: like when he was on the court and Germany's like 193 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: up by one, up I three, up by five. I'm like, 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: where the hell is Davis? And bam Adebayo, And then 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: I remembered, Okay, how do you play Lebron ad and Bam? 196 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: Is that too big? Because then you've got inevitably Lebron 197 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: chasing around the guard. Now, Bam can guard smaller guys, 198 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: but it's probably too big. So down the stretch. It 199 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: looked to me like they went ad Lebron Anthony Edwards? 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Was it? 201 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: It was Devin Booker and Evan Beker and Curry and 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: then they subbed out Curry for Holiday. 203 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. I like d book He had 204 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: a couple of nice moments. I would put him in 205 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: the in the with the backups and get Anthony Edwards 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: with the starter. So I don't know, what do you think? 207 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Obviously the big question mark is what's up with Kevin Durant. 208 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: They were saying that he was going to play Brian 209 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: Windhorst and said it was a very good chance he 210 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: was gonna play, and obviously he didn't. So that's something 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 3: you got to be concerned about because I think he 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: liked Lebron. James is that matchup nightmare that other international 213 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: squashes can't handle. Like you mentioned Lebron six eighty two 214 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: sixty freight train, very few guys can match up with that. Well, 215 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: how many guys are going to match up with seven 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: foot can pull from anywhere and can also cross you 217 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: up whenever he wants to. So it's those two guys 218 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: are kind of like the big the Queen's on the chessboard. 219 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: If you will, I know you're not a big chess 220 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: fan with the USA starting lineup if they're insisting on 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: starting Lebron, Steph and Embiid, which I believe and I 222 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: think you've alluded to it yesterday, that the MB thing 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: is kind of a politics type situation. Yeah, part of 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: me believes that that he would. He The reason he's 225 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: on the team is that Steve Kirk promised him a 226 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: starting job and that's how they do. You got to do, 227 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: That's how and that's how they got him away from France. 228 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: But if you're gonna insist on starting those three guys, 229 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: MB can only play one style of defense. That's what 230 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: they can't. Mentioning in the broadcast, Lebron is good in 231 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: spurts defensively, he can't really stay with it the entire 232 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: time at this age, even in eighteen minutes. He just 233 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: there was times when he was getting kind of lost 234 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: back there because he's playing free safety. So what you 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: need is the other two guys to be three and 236 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: D type. So I would actually rather start Tatum over 237 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: Edwards in that scenario because a little bit size, he 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: can cross match a little bit better, and Edwards when. 239 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: Tim at the three. Yeah, so, and what a lebron 240 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: for Tatum three? And then what's the back. 241 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: Drew Holliday and Zeph Curry. 242 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: Okay, And because. 243 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, I think you've seen this throughout this exhibition run. 244 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: He definitely thinks he's the best player, so he will 245 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: isolate and do a lot of Anthony Edwards type things, 246 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: which is fine if you're in Minnesota. When we're a 247 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: team this loaded, it seems kind of extra in my opinion. 248 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: So then who are your wings off the who's like 249 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: your big wing off the bench? 250 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: You? 251 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't really have one, but you're banking 252 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: on the the Anthony Davis bam Adebayo front court to 253 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: kind of erase everything at that point. 254 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: M I do, what if it was just Aunt Edwards 255 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: instead of Booker, then you can still have Tatum leading 256 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: the second group. Book and An. I don't think there's 257 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: a huge difference. I just think Ant's way more aggressive 258 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: attacking right. Booker can attack, but it feels like he 259 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: settles Anthony ed which is so explosive. 260 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 3: Would you agree absolutely? I just think that sometimes he 261 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: kind of gets into tunnel vision mode a little bit, 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: and with if you're already gonna have Lebron, Stephen mb there. 263 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 3: That's a lot of guys who kind of need the ball, 264 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: so to speak. 265 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Aunt does need the ball. I thought there 266 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: was too much pick and roll with Ant. Although listen, 267 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: other than Lebron, I think Lebron and ad Aunt's probably 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: been their third best player. 269 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely so far. 270 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: Bam out of Bayo. I mean, I guess you could 271 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: make a case. I don't know. 272 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: The other thing. 273 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: Where was Halliburton? Was he injured? 274 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: No, he has been determined as the guy who was 275 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 3: the twelve man with the arrival of Derek White and 276 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 3: Derek White the box scorer, yeah, the box scorer doesn't 277 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: say that that Derek White did much and then get 278 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: two points one steal though. Yeah, but he played and 279 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: he fills the gaps that Tyre's Halliburn at this stage 280 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 3: just doesn't do. Because we have enough guys who can score, 281 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: we have enough guys who can do other thing. So 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: having someone who's gonna defend, you know, screen, move around, 283 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 3: create space like that's kind of stuff that they really 284 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: need more so than another ball handler. 285 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's drill down for a couple of moments 286 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: on Kevin Duran and let's be real, he didn't play 287 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: any the exhibitions and now you're gonna thrust him in 288 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: a to the starting lineup. B What rule does he 289 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think you got to pull 290 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: the plug and be like, listen, Katie, you can come along, 291 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: you can hang out and get sit on the bench, 292 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: you can hang with the guys. But we need somebody 293 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: who's gonna play. And I know everybody's gonna say Jaylen Brown, 294 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: but Rob, I've seen enough. I need another big man 295 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: on this team. I think that's undeniable. Listen, they only 296 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: have three and if something were to happen to one 297 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: of those three foul trouble, eh, But I don't want to, 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: you know, use injury. But one of them goes down 299 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're thin in the front court. 300 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: And I don't want to hear like Lebron's gonna be 301 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: playing before all the time certain spurts like you said, fine, 302 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: I think the move has to be Cooper Flagg. I 303 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: don't know how much burn he'd get, but I think, listen, 304 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,479 Speaker 2: you've been pretty fine without KD. You're winning, you're not dominating. 305 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: But I don't know I would go Cooper Flag and like, listen, 306 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: somebody gets in foul trouble, I think you could steal 307 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: minutes from Cooper Flag. I just don't see how Jalen 308 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Brown does enough for this team when it's pretty clear 309 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to play two bigs often because I 310 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: don't know about you, man, but I saw that German 311 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: team when it was only embat on the floor. They 312 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: kind of dominated the glass and there were moments where 313 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: I think it was only Anthony Davis and like, AD 314 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: can't do it all themselves. So I don't know. I'm 315 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: officially get me Cooper Flag. If Kevin Durant's out, I. 316 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: Would not hate that at all. And my big takeaway 317 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: you mentioned that the centers that you wanted another big 318 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: man out there. Cooper Flag, to me, is kind of 319 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: more like a four and he's actually the exact kind 320 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: of prototype of guys I think they should target, whether 321 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: it's this round or in four years from now. Is 322 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: what you're seeing with this current roster with Kevin Durant 323 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: not being there, is they have a big wings. It's 324 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: Lebron James, it's Jason Tatum. All the other guys are 325 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: six five and under. Booker Holliday, Curry, Edwards White. So 326 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: you're basically playing one center whether it's MB or two 327 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 3: centers when it's Ad and Bam, and then a bunch 328 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: of guards. So if there's a way you can find 329 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: that big four, you know, or big three, small four 330 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: hybrid kind of position, that's kind of what made Carmelo 331 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: Anthony such a good player for the Olympic team back then. 332 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: If you recall, he was one of those guys who 333 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: caused matchup problems because he was big enough to defend 334 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: relatively some of the international big guys, but he could 335 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: also stretch him ount to shoot a little bit. And 336 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: that's why you saw on some of the previous Olympic 337 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: teams guys who are not all NBA caliber players, but 338 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: like Jeremy Grant, was important when he played, you know, 339 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: Harrison Barnes, I recall, had had some time where he 340 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: was important for their team just because they fit a 341 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: certain prototype that we just don't currently have with this 342 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: specific roster. 343 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: My guess is that and that's a great point. I 344 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: think when you look to the next Olympics in twenty eight, 345 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: remember there will be no Lebron, no Kevin Durant, no 346 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Steph Curry. I'm gonna go ahead and guess Joel Embiid 347 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be on the Olympic team. And when he's 348 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: you know, four years from now, who's the other guy 349 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: that we'll be missing? 350 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: No Ad, aad will be thirty five by. 351 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Then, probably not a d Right and probably not Embiid. 352 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to go with give us 353 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: four stars and then glue guys in the mole, like 354 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: a Derek White, Not Derek White, but a guy like that, 355 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: a guy like Drew Holliday. Because the stars, we get it, 356 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: you wanted to go Stars, just stuck. But who are 357 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 2: going to be the leaders of that team? Now? Maybe 358 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: someone else emerges, maybe Zion or John Morant, rise from 359 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: the ashes, stay out of troubles, get their weight in check, 360 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: no injuries. I mean Zion would be I would love 361 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: to see him in the Olympics. I don't know what 362 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: he would be like because he's Lebronish in that you 363 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: just don't see people his size. John Morant, Anthony Edwards, 364 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 2: Cooper flag maybe, but Tatum obviously. But I think I'm 365 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: just telling you guys now, enjoy this run to probably 366 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: the goal. But I don't think it's a lock because 367 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm just twenty twenty eight. Is going to be very 368 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: difficult when you remove some of these guys that you're 369 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: seeing dominate out here. 370 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: Robi. 371 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm curious when you told the wife, hey, sorry, next 372 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: Monday can't do anything. It's USA Serbia, Like, what was 373 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: the reaction or have you not told her that yet? 374 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: I have not told her yet, and hopefully she's not 375 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: listening to this pod this morning, otherwise I'm going to 376 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: be in very, very big trouble, my friend. 377 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah it is, uh oh wait, it's not next Monday. 378 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 3: It's Sunday, Sunday day, Sunday morning, I believe. 379 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, uh oh, I didn't know. I don't have the 380 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: time change in the calendar. So that's the new move. 381 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: The married guys will know what we're talking about. You 382 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: beat the wife to the calendar with whatever you want, 383 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: and then you say, oh no, I locked that up. Sorry, 384 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: it's in the calendar. It's not my fault. You didn't see. 385 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 2: It's a shared calendar, so I definitely have that in 386 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: but I didn't have the time change, rob That is 387 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: so clutch. Thank you for that. All right, let me 388 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: quickly pivot to an NFL story that popped up yesterday 389 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: and as Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. 390 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 391 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 392 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 393 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: listen live. 394 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a big nothing burger and it's just 395 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 2: a July brush fire. But Jordan Love came out and 396 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: told the Packers, Hey, guys, I know we're opening camp today, 397 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: which was Monday, but I'm not going to practice until 398 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: I get a new contract. And I think the Packers 399 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: had an idea was headed this way. They did not 400 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: seem totally caught off guard. Love has been a model 401 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: citizen all off season, took part in meetings and other 402 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: camp activities except for practice. Earlier this offseason he went 403 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: through the program and the mini camp, and he had 404 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: to do that to get a five hundred thousand dollars 405 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: workout bonus, to get paid half a million dollars to 406 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 2: work out. Gotta love that. And so Love's like, just hey, 407 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: I'm still in the building, I'm still doing everything. I'm 408 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: just not practicing, which is fine. I don't want a 409 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: risk injury. 410 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: I like that. 411 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: I totally like that, no point in risking it when 412 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 2: you shouldn't. Jordan Love sat for three years. Then they 413 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 2: kind of tore up his deal last year and gave 414 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: him one that essentially pays him eleven million dollars on 415 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: like the mini extension they gave him. His base salary 416 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 2: last year was one million dollars. And for the first 417 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: half of the season it was like, Oh, I don't 418 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: make he beat on himself and this does not look 419 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: good and something like a sweat. I think for me 420 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: watching him rock Bottom was Packers Raiders on Monday Night Football. 421 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: He was so bad. I think it either cost me 422 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: something in the contest or fantasy football, and I remember 423 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: watching it being so angry, like Gouys, this guy's terrible. 424 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: He just wasn't good and he didn't totally bounce back. 425 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: Then like a couple games against Minnesota and Denver, like 426 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: he just wasn't playing well. They were losing a lot, 427 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, there was a game against the 428 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Chargers where it kind of all clicked. Now the Chargers 429 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: defense is banged up and Love shredded them at home. 430 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: Then came a big game against Detroit, which at the 431 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: time was on fire, and Love went and won that 432 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: game on Thanksgiving. You remember, he was just exceptional. Outplayed golf. 433 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: And then after that came the Chiefs game and another 434 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: high profile game at night, and you know, obviously there 435 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: was the non flag on the past interference over the 436 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: middle deep, but Jordan Love was good in that game. 437 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: Three touchdowns. Final eight games, Love finishes eighteen touchdowns, one pick, 438 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 2: and then goes into Dallas throws three touchdown games in 439 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: a play three touchdowns in the playoff game. And it 440 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 2: wasn't just three touchdowns, it was seventy six percent completions, 441 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: three touchdowns, thirteen yards per complete. I mean, it was 442 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: nearly a perfect quarterback rating. Incredible game. They smoke Dallas. 443 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: Then they go to San fran and a little regression 444 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: against what the best team in the league. I thought 445 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: they were the best, and they still nearly win. And 446 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: then after that you're like, oh, Jordan Love's gonna get paid, 447 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: So they go all season they don't pay him. Now 448 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: there's been a million talks, and you could argue that 449 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: Love excelled with a young receiving corps, so so mid 450 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: offensive line, they had running back injuries and it was 451 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: like wow, and he still went for eighteen touchdowns one pick. Huh, 452 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: they got something here. I'll just stop you and let 453 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: just let the question sink in. Sometimes just asking questions helps. 454 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: Who's the real Jordan Love, the guy who sat for 455 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: three years and then came out and was a bottom 456 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: five quarterback for the first half of the season. Or 457 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 2: is it the Jordan Love who something could and he 458 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: had eighteen touchdowns at one pick in the final lighte 459 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: games of the regular season. Which is the I don't 460 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: know the answer to that. I don't know how you can, 461 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: but you can offer an answer. You could try. The 462 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: Packers have seen him more than anyone, sitting for three 463 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: years and then every rep in practice on the field, 464 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 2: everything right, They know his work habits. Is he the 465 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: first one in, last one out? 466 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: All that? 467 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: You know, that's cheesy stuff that does matter. Don't scoff 468 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: at it. It doesn't matter. Does he have all those qualities? 469 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm of the belief that yeah, he probably does. But 470 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: are you giving him fifty mili for an eight game 471 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: sample size? I gotta ask, because you know, we saw 472 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence get a deal five years, two hundred and 473 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: seventy five mil two hundred million guaranteed fifty five million 474 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: a year, And you know, Lawrence has been up and down, 475 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: but I would say he hasn't matched expectations from when 476 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 2: he entered the league. Now, expectations were massive for him 477 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 2: because he was a superstar at Clemson and slam dunk 478 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 2: number one pick. But I don't think he's met expectations. 479 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: One playoff win, and I know it's a team sport 480 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: and wins don't matter, and Trevor Lawrence is good, He's 481 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 2: also got a shit ton of turnovers. It's not Actually 482 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence has been incredible. I would say he hasn't 483 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 2: met expectations. I'm not down on him. I still like 484 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, just hasn't happened yet. So do you give 485 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: him that kind of money if you're paying Jordan Love? 486 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. Joe Burrows accomplished a hell of a 487 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: lot more. He's been injury prone, Glass Joe, do you pay? 488 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can give Jordan Love that 489 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: kind of money. I don't think you can. It's an 490 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 2: eight game sample size. But then is it disrespectful to 491 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: give him? And there's a big drop off after the 492 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 2: big guys like Kyler Murray's at like forty six mil. 493 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: And then nobody wants forty six mil. That's a that's 494 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: a contract from two years ago, right, And it's like, oh, okay, well, 495 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: Dak's still out there and two is still out there, 496 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: and none of these none of these teams want to blink. 497 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: They want to hold out as long as utterly possible. 498 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: The problem with the Packers is you are building something 499 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 2: as opposed to Dallas, which you know, we've seen this 500 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: with DAK for several years now, like they kind of 501 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: sort of feel max out and Mary maybe Jerry's had 502 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: enough and said, you know what, We're not investing anymore, 503 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: let's just see what they got, orreas the opposite. It's true, 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: it feels for green Bay, which is building something chemistry 505 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: with the young receivers. You've got the young quarterback, like 506 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: it opens up a lot. The problem is, though his 507 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: rookie deal was not wasted, but they had Aaron Rodgers, 508 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: so they didn't totally maximize the rookie deal. And now 509 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 2: with an extension and all of a sudden, he's making 510 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: fifty mil. It's like, oh, well that's not great. Hopefully 511 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: you can you know, split the baby or whatever they 512 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: call it, Like the Trevor Lawrence deal essentially doesn't kick 513 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 2: in for two more years, but they got it early. 514 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Packers can structure it given 515 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: where is in his career, where Love doesn't go from 516 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: making eleven this year to fifty next year. You know, 517 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: maybe there is some some middle ground they can find, 518 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: but I don't. Obviously it has to get sorted out. 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: And it's funny because you know, Coward was talking about 520 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: this and I'm sitting here like, Okay, well, you know, 521 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: my deal's up next year, and I love it here. 522 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: I want to be part of the team. I don't 523 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: want to go anywhere, but I'm also not gonna work 524 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: if I don't have a new deal. Well, no, it's different. 525 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: You know, practicing football, you could get injured. I don't 526 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 2: want to injure my vocal cords. I mean, if you 527 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: love me and I'm you know, an integral part of 528 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: a team that has now become the number one show 529 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: at the network and the highest ratings in the show's history, 530 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be that difficult to pay me no, right, 531 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: so show me the money. And I kind of agree 532 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: with the Packers, like you don't go off an eight 533 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: game sample size and give somebody the Joe Burrow Trevor Lawrence. 534 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Do you just can't that being said, you went from 535 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: Farv to Rogers and you've had a really good run 536 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: at quarterback stability in the most difficult position to find stability. 537 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: Don't you just want to lock it up? Now? Just 538 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: do the deal. I always joke like, yeah, when you 539 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: find a good barber, lock in, you do. Now, when 540 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: you find a good messuse make sure you're on the 541 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 2: calendar all the freaking time. Don't mess with it. And 542 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: it kind of sort of feels like the Packers are there, 543 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: They've got their guy, they've got their young core, got 544 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: their coach. They're set for the next few years if 545 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: they believe Jordan loves the guy. Now on the outsiders 546 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 2: can only speculate, Yeah, he looks like the guy Pagan 547 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: not my money, But I don't think you want to 548 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 2: lowball Jordan Love here and get things off on a 549 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 2: rocky So then it gets a little weird. The problem 550 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: is that quarterback market, man, it's ugly. I don't I'm 551 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: not as high on the Packers as everyone else. Obviously 552 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: they are ascending, and it feels like they're a hot, 553 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: sexy team. But let's just remember they started last year 554 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 2: two and five and were hurtling toward no playoffs. And oh, 555 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: by the way, Vikings another year with the with the 556 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: great young coach Kevin O'Connell. The Bears draft a quarterback 557 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: number one who appears to be a generational talent, and 558 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: they added oh by the way, Romadonza Keenan Allen. Like, 559 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Bears are going to be better, So the division is 560 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: making a bit of elite. I think for the package, 561 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: you got to get this done. I'm sure it'll be 562 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: done here in the next couple of days. The only 563 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: only you know question is how much does Jordan Love get? 564 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 2: And after that then it's just down to two guys. 565 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: Tua obviously and his situation in Miami. I don't totally 566 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 2: know what to make of it at this point. I mean, 567 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: you think they would keep him, but I don't know. 568 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: Last season at this time it was to a stay healthy. 569 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: We don't know, what do you do? What do you well? 570 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: They didn't draft a quarterback and Tua played great. He 571 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: was a fringe MVP candidate. They got to the playoffs, 572 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: they nearly won the division, except for a late collapse, 573 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: so like, yeah, you kind of got a sort of 574 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: pay toua. And then the Dak Prescott one is weird 575 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 2: because it just it doesn't feel like they're all in 576 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: despite saying they're all in. And the Dak one's tricky. 577 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 2: If you pay him fifty five mili, there's not much 578 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: else to go around. Can you win with him chewing 579 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: up that much of the cap? Which is a different 580 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: discussion from love and certainly different from tua. Anyways, football 581 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: camps are here. Get excited. We'll talk to you tomorrow.