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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth.

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Speaker 2: Blazarre and Lazarren.

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody nailed it, joined us.

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Speaker 3: Always buying our bar cap cap. Here is Evan Lazar.

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Speaker 1: And Alex bar So do you want to bet on

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Speaker 1: Ross speed or Ross strength?

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Speaker 3: You know my answer? I know because I can tell

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Speaker 3: Chris Brazzl when he gets here on April twenty fifth

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Speaker 3: or whatever, the day after the first round. Hey, buddy,

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Speaker 3: hit the weight room.

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Speaker 1: Well he's gonna Breyton shorts on April twenty bit. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna be all excited, n camp.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: You know rookie Mini Caam, He's gonna run a nine round.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like the hell Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you know exactly who we will bring up.

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Speaker 3: I know that is fair.

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Speaker 1: You can hit the weight room. You can hit the

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Speaker 1: weight room, you can't hit the speed room. That's fair.

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Speaker 3: That is fair, all right, everybody. I can't hear anything

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Speaker 3: in here, So that's why I can not that I

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Speaker 3: need to hear anything from this point on, I guess.

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Speaker 3: But we didn't all so lovely open, which is actually

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Speaker 3: pretty fine with me because I'm one of those people.

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Speaker 3: I hate hearing the sound of my own voice. I

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Speaker 3: don't like my voice. I hate hearing it. It's one

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Speaker 3: of those types of things I have to get over

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Speaker 3: in this industry.

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Speaker 1: But that's just the way that I am. I guess

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Speaker 1: we do have to hear the callers here, right. I

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Speaker 1: don't mind hear my voice. I just only see myself

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Speaker 1: on kre.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's both. It's both, you know, I would rather

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Speaker 3: not now, every once in a while, you got to

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Speaker 3: do it. And when we got g Mat on the case,

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Speaker 3: I got to watch myself and listen, watch the tape,

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Speaker 3: you know, have him grade me and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: So it's fun. Uh yeah, we're good now. We're good now.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know when we were starting. We were just

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Speaker 3: talking about our approach to very lazy approaches to college

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Speaker 3: that we got through. I was actually talking to Mike

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Speaker 3: g reesea yesterday. I think it's his daughter is on

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Speaker 3: is nearing the end of high school, and I swear

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Speaker 3: we're good on topic after this. Nearing the end of

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Speaker 3: high school, so she's kind of looking that colleges and

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Speaker 3: one of the college establishment's fine establishment. She's looking at college. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: absolutely was talking it up, So that was fun. No

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Speaker 3: socks also a bomber as well, from a different chapter

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Speaker 3: of history, but you know, same college. All right, Hello everybody.

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Speaker 3: Evan Lazar, Alex Barth is behind the glass. That's how

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Speaker 3: you know it's an off season show. And I ramble

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Speaker 3: like that about.

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Speaker 1: Non the off season, though I saw some tweet the

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Speaker 1: other day that was like the dead season of the

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Speaker 1: NFL's we are are not remotely close to the dead season. No,

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Speaker 1: that's we will get to the dark days of summer.

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Speaker 3: That's June and July, which here at this stadium is

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Speaker 3: going to be World Cup CenTra.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, so it's gonna be tough.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I'll be coming from the beach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a dead period of the off season

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Speaker 3: So today's show, we'll start with some news. I'll get

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Speaker 3: to some of these thirty visits reported. I should mention

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Speaker 3: thirty visits pro Day's all that good stuff. Alex and

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Speaker 3: I were both out in Chestnut Hill at Boston College

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Speaker 3: on Monday. So not a ton of top prospects coming

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Speaker 3: out of that program this year, but still some things

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Speaker 1: There's at least one legit Patriots target.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were there with Mike Rabele and Ryan

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Speaker 3: Cowden and Doug Maron, Mike Smith, the Patriots outside linebackers,

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Speaker 3: coach Tony Kinkayla. They're a director of college scouting, so

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Speaker 1: wondering where Elliott Wolf was. He was at it almost yah.

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Speaker 1: So he was down at the you for that pro day,

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Speaker 3: Apparently like unbelievable those defensive linemen. We I guess they

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Speaker 1: For everything we hyped up being like college football fans,

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Speaker 3: The whole the whole defense.

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Speaker 1: The whole defense is a lot of talent. But you know,

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Speaker 3: of the pro day stuff that I wanted to hit on.

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Speaker 3: Let's just start with BC. I know it's not the

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Speaker 3: Like I said, on the third day of the draft,

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's talked about this, right his parents

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Speaker 3: And I think that it's really cool that he supports

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Speaker 3: as many media would show up if they knew that

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Speaker 3: find very interesting is Jude Bowry, their tackle who had

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Speaker 3: nine off at the combine, very very athletic tackle. Training

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Speaker 1: But watch I do think it's interesting too, And he

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Speaker 1: Not only has he worked with Dante Scarnecci on the side,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very familiar with the way the Patriots want their

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Speaker 3: So all those guys last year, Kendall Trapillo, they all

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Speaker 3: But Jude Bowery, I think is strongly in play with

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Speaker 1: That, I was gonna say it might be ninety five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I'll give you the sex size real quick. But

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Speaker 1: this happens every year. There's not enough tackles. And you know,

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Speaker 1: now where they are in the consensus board, Evan the

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Speaker 1: true tackle. So this is not we'll go through it.

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Speaker 1: So when we go A, now we GOA is six,

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Speaker 1: potential first round picks. So Maxi Honitor again thirty eight.

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Speaker 1: consents big board that we use is Jennings Dunker at

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Speaker 1: fifty nine. Now one, that's a twenty pick drop two.

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Speaker 1: Jennings Dunker is probably not a tackle. Next up Caleb

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Speaker 1: Tiernan sixty nine guard. That's right, So.

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Speaker 3: Maxi two and a quarter in charms.

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Speaker 1: Maxi Honachur again is thirty eight. The next true tackle

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Speaker 1: and the consensus board is crown Over at one oh three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So are you telling me we're going to go seventy

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Speaker 1: something picks without a tackle? There's basically gonna be no

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Speaker 3: Going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But I think that there's a chance that there's a

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Speaker 1: So Crownover, who's at one oh three on the on

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Speaker 3: Agreed. I think that there are different type of players

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Speaker 3: He looked different than those guys. The one thing that

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Speaker 3: That is the biggest thing in his game right now

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Speaker 3: I really like a lot of elements of his game.

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Speaker 3: I actually think that his anchor and like his base

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Speaker 1: Well, And we talked about it last week, having a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who else did you like there? Because I think,

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Speaker 1: Bond's just kind of a sure handed, steady wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: think there's like a committee, right that decides who gets

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Speaker 3: guy that broke Za Flowers his career receptions record at

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Speaker 1: He's a pure change.

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Speaker 3: Like I was texting you about, you know, Ristrepo last

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Speaker 1: I mean the UDFA, he's like, I'd like seeing me

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Speaker 3: plays the position just as a stand up outside guy

435
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 3: relatively like the Patriots want them. It to be played

436
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 3: with some explosiveness and some bend off the edge. But

437
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: I'm with you, he's pretty small. He's pretty light, especially

438
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: for that spot. All Right, So that was Boston College.

439
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 3: It was a fun day. Glad, Glad we were able

440
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 3: to at least see like a semi you know, a

441
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 3: D one program in the ACC that does have draftable talent.

442
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 3: It is cool to have that right down the street.

443
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 3: A couple more things from pro days that have just

444
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 3: been kicking around. We haven't been at these physically, but

445
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: one of our guys, I think we professed our love

446
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 3: to Harold Perkins last week ran a four to three eight.

447
00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Think he should play running.

448
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of those guys that there's always

449
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: a couple of these every single year where the tea

450
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 3: the college team did not figure him out yet, But like,

451
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: I don't feel like LSU was really able to maximize.

452
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 3: They tried him on the line of scrimmage as a

453
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 3: pass rusher, they tried him at linebacker, they tried him

454
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: at the star Like I there's there's got to be

455
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: a way to get that kind of athlete to be

456
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Speaker 3: a productive football.

457
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: I pushed back on that a little bit, I because

458
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: they did as a freshman. I just wonder if he

459
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 1: was the passer as a freshman.

460
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: Right.

461
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: He's doing a little bit of everything, but mainly that

462
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: I do wonder if some of that is just he

463
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 1: wasn't right last year coming like off, he's working his

464
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: way back from the injury. I think that's part of it.

465
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's probably fair. I think that there's two

466
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 3: kinds of roles that you could probably play him at.

467
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: One is obviously weak side linebacker, which feels like the

468
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: right role, like when you have that kind of speed,

469
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 3: you know, to play a player like that a week

470
00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: side linebacker. The coverage assignments that he can handle the

471
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 3: sideline to sideline against the run, like he's not going

472
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: to be the sledgehammer at the point of attack as often,

473
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 3: so he can just kind of range over the top

474
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 3: of everything and go sideline to sideline right. The other one,

475
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: I guess would would probably be the nickel or the

476
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: star role as they call it at LSU, where he's

477
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: playing basically slot defender, where probably not going to do

478
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 3: that against three receiver sets, but could against bigger personnel

479
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: if you're playing teams that play a lot of twelve

480
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 3: or a lot of twenty one personnel with a full

481
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 3: back or an extra tight end, then yeah, like you

482
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 3: could probably play him in the slot a little bit.

483
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Speaker 1: Like that too, Like, yeah, i'd like seem rush in

484
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Speaker 1: the pass or more than that.

485
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Speaker 3: But so they used him the tape, the tapes that

486
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 3: I saw of him last year at LSU, they used

487
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: him a lot as an in in line or off

488
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 3: ball blitzer where it was interesting he kind of like

489
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 3: started in a track stance, like a two point track stance,

490
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: and then just like would run like clearly tipping that

491
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: he was blitzing. Yeah, which was you know, had a

492
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 3: couple of good rushes. But I think that maybe getting

493
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: a little bit more you know, distinctive like instinctive sorry, yeah,

494
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 3: and like disguisey where like it doesn't tip to the

495
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: offense that he's clearly blitzing, right that, I think he

496
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: could kind of be a little bit more effective. So

497
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm still all in on him. I

498
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 3: don't know how high he goes, but it could be

499
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: in the third round. After that Pro day because some

500
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: coach and some coaching staff is going to look at

501
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: him and be like, I know how to use I

502
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: know how to use them, Like draft him and I

503
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: know how to use them.

504
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: Who goes higher him or Kyle Lewis.

505
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: It's a good question. I would say Kyle Lewis has

506
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: right now is maybe a little bit more polished at

507
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: linebacker than Perkins is. But I think Perkins is going

508
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: to be a better pull.

509
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: So that's the crazy thing though, is like I wonder

510
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: how many teams look at Kyle Lewis as a safety.

511
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Maybe I wonder if teams are gonna try

512
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: to do with Kyle Lewis what the Pagers try to

513
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,439
Speaker 1: do with Marte Maphu.

514
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that, and I'd.

515
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: Play him a linebacker and just hey, he's only probably

516
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna play on passing downs. That's fine. Even if he's

517
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: only on the field forty percent of the time, He's

518
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: going to make a great impact a forty percent of

519
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: a time, and I think that's worth a third round pick.

520
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 3: It's copycat league. Yeah, Nick aim and Worry is now

521
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: the darling. He's chicken technically a safety, but he's a

522
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: big safety.

523
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: Do you think there are more linebackers or more safeties

524
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: that can do that? Whitney Kiman Worriy does so.

525
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: I think this is kind of a cool cyclical thing.

526
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: That's a great catch twenty two topic. Yeah, I was

527
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: looking for all the big safeties in this draft. Yeah,

528
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: you can't find them because all the big safeties are

529
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: now line linebackers. So like, if you're two twenty plus

530
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,959
Speaker 3: with range and with you know, cover skills, there's an

531
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: LB next to your name now in the college game

532
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: instead of ans.

533
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: Because if you run a four to six, four six

534
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: is a linebacker's outstanding of four to six is a

535
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: safety not so much?

536
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 3: Right, So, all, if you're looking for him and worry

537
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 3: types outside of you know, obviously McNeil Warren at the

538
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 3: very very top of the draft, you're really a looking

539
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: for linebackers at the college level, yeah, that are going

540
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: to probably have some hybrid element to them at the

541
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: pro level. You know, could these guys like Perkins and

542
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: Lewis play in the deep part of the field. Probably

543
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: not the box safety, yeah, but they are essentially new

544
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 3: age box safeties.

545
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: Right well, Perkins, I hesitated that. I think he's a

546
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: true linebacker. Yeah, but he can do some safety stuff.

547
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

548
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: Hey, Moore to me is like if Jamal if the

549
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: Jets had figured Jamal Adams out correctly.

550
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: Okay, kind of thing I could see that. I think

551
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: that his pass rush ability is really really good.

552
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: But he's too good a pass rush to be a safety, yes.

553
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: And I don't think that he has even though he

554
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: ran a four to three eight. Yeah, he's a His

555
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: hips and stuff are not going to allow him to

556
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 3: like be a deep safety that's changing directions out of

557
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: his pedal and all that kind of stuff. The other

558
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: thing that I think made some headlines out of the

559
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Pro day circuit was Baylor tight end Michael Trigg jumps

560
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: twenty seven and a half inches. I haven't seen it

561
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 3: confirmed Pro Day forty time for him yet, but I

562
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: don't want to pick too much on Michael true, but

563
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: this is more just about getting back into this tight

564
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: end class you do not want to be badly.

565
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Trigg was dealing with an injury and you can kind

566
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: of see it in the jump. I just don't know

567
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: why he jumped, because I've seen him on the football

568
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: field he can jump higher than that.

569
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: Well.

570
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is a Kaishon Boody running the

571
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: forty on a bad ankle kind of thing.

572
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: You do not want to be a pass catching tight end.

573
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 3: That's not athletic. No, that's not that's the thing.

574
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: Like watching him, Yeah, like I've seen him. I know

575
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: I've seen him jump higher than that.

576
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: I was surprised. I mean, he's an explosive guy off

577
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: the line, and even if it's not like just simply

578
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: watching him jump for the ball, like, you can definitely

579
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: see the explosiveness. But I I guess maybe I should

580
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: show him some grace if there's an injury or something

581
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: like that.

582
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I just yet here it is nursing a hamstright injury.

583
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 3: I just still remain against don't jump this type of player.

584
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: I I just can't get myself to buy into it.

585
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: I like Michael Trigg, not for the Patriots, I can't.

586
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: I'm going to draft into it.

587
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 1: If you're going to draft a fifty to fifty ball guy,

588
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: go get a receiver. Also, if you really like Michael Trigg,

589
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you've watched this guy. Daikwon

590
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Wright from Ole Miss to be pretty similar player expected

591
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: to go much later. I don't really understand why. Maybe

592
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: it's because the ole Miss offense is gimmicky.

593
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to an ole Miss player in a second.

594
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I like Trick, not for the Patriots.

595
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 3: I just if I'm gonna draft one of them, I

596
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: know he's gonna go higher. But like, at least Store

597
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: is tested unbelievably well, right, so you know that you

598
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: have confirmation of great receiving upside from his tape, great

599
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: athletic profile from the combine. Right, so that guy is

600
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: a freak, right, Like he's he's a freak athlete and

601
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 3: it shows on the film. I can't I can sort

602
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: of get behind that one for that reason. Now, I

603
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: don't know where they draft him, because I think he's

604
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: going to be a top sixty five. You know he's

605
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: gonna go someplace early, and it's hard for me to

606
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: envision a scenario where they have a spot to draft, Like,

607
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: is he going to be there at the end of

608
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: the second round. If he is, you even want to

609
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: draft him that high. Trig. I I'm kind of out

610
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: on Trig. I'm not just because of the Pro Day.

611
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 3: I also just did love the profile at the beginning.

612
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, now we've been pretty clear on this show

613
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: and whether it's it's Stower's trig Jolie uh Cozy ol

614
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: like the pure receiving tight end.

615
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched You want to sign r J.

616
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Maryland as UDFA by all means, that would be the

617
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: one guy I.

618
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: Watched Cozy the other day. Dude catches everything, catches everything,

619
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: absolutely catches everything, doesn't block and really is not that fast.

620
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: No, he's a he's a fifty to fifty red zone. Yes, like,

621
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: and that's a really good second tight end. And I

622
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: guess if if he's still there in a sixth round, right, sure,

623
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: but that's not you know, I would hope the tight

624
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: end they're drafting has the upside to take over for

625
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry and they're not back in the market for

626
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: number one tight end next year. And I think with

627
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: cozyal would be like, well he's a really good number two, right,

628
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: but we're still looking for a Hunter end resuccessor now

629
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: you're probably back in the top one hundred for a

630
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: tight end next year.

631
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: Probably has the best ball skills out of anybody in

632
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: the draft that position, though, like he's he's got great myths,

633
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: like that guy catches everything, he finishes through contact. He

634
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: can go above the rim and catch the football red zone.

635
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, like, he's got some real myths on him.

636
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: So we're on tight end. So let's just you know,

637
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 3: knock out the rest of this tight end topic here.

638
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about some of the thirty

639
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: visits that have been reported that the Patriots have had recently.

640
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily always the best indicator. They did draft

641
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 3: a couple guys from their thirties last year, and I

642
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: would say it's a very good indicator of the positions

643
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: that they're looking at. You know, it might not be

644
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: the player that they draft, but these positions. So let's

645
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: just stick on the tight ends. Because we're on the

646
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: topic they reportedly are having or had Oscar Delp in

647
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: here for a thirty visit. Where do you currently stand

648
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: on our Oscar Delp? Because I feel like what.

649
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: Happened with the the party everybody.

650
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: What happened with Oscar Delp though, is that he started

651
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: as this like fringe top one hundred player. Now that

652
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: he's had this great pre draft, he's going up, up,

653
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: up and up. And what I can't understand figure out

654
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: yet is was the media just late in the league

655
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: always had him up or are we counting things twice?

656
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: And by counting things twice, I mean we know on

657
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: tape that he's this explosive athlete. Just because he tested

658
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: like an explosive athlete doesn't mean that you should raise

659
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: him up around It means that.

660
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: He don't change your grade based on what you knew.

661
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: I think it's probably like eighty twenty ninety ten. The

662
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: thing with Delp is and I've talked about this, he

663
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: really didn't have any production in college. He's behind Brock Bauers,

664
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: and then when Bauers leaves, they kind of take the

665
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: tight end. They really deemphasize that position of the offense.

666
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: It's not because they didn't trust Delp. They got new

667
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who just didn't throw the tight ends as much.

668
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: He also really suffered from the quarterback play. I don't

669
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: know how much you've actually gone back and watched Gunner

670
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Stockton did him no favorite.

671
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one and up this scene where he

672
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: had the guy beat by like three or four steps,

673
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: and he underthrew it so badly that he almost had

674
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: to make like the Edelman Super Bowl catch.

675
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was so you know, I always and

676
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: here's the other thing the teams know more than we do. Right,

677
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: A guy stock shooting up sometimes is the media catching up.

678
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: Agreed.

679
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I said this from the beginning, Like when everybody was

680
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: picking a Delp at one thirty one in their mantra asse,

681
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: I said, you're not gonna be able to do that

682
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: once we get past the combine. Now he part of

683
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: it's got hurt and he missed the combine. He's playing

684
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: through a broken foot, which is also awesome, not that

685
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: he has a broken foot, but that he played through

686
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: it and didn't even know it was broken. So this

687
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: is kind of the jump. If he had this jump

688
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: after the combine, it would have been, well, that's the combine.

689
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: Like guys test well, they move up whatever. So it's

690
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: a unique situation. I always viewed him as a top

691
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: one hundred talent. I kind of wondered why he was lower.

692
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I think this is just the media catching up. If

693
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: you followed college football, if you watched him at Georgia,

694
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: you saw and it is more potential than proven ability,

695
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: and the lack of production is going to hurt him

696
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL team's eyes. And that's fair, that's fair.

697
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: There are guys that have more catches more yards than him, certainly,

698
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: But if you watched him at Georgia and you kind

699
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: of saw what he was doing in the bubble of

700
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: that offense, he's top one hundred talent.

701
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: I would agree that he's a top one hundred talent.

702
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm still not ready to say that he's higher than

703
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: like a third round pick because of the production. And look,

704
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: this happens all the time at that position. I take

705
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: him at sixty three, that's high to me.

706
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Like this happens.

707
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: All the time that position. I'll give you that caveat Yeah,

708
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: that the athlete that doesn't have great college production. I

709
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: think George Kittle's kind of like the poster child for

710
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: this right and then explodes at the NFL level. I

711
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: think the thing about Delp though, to me, is that

712
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: he did have some opportunities to have more, yeah, you know,

713
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: more production, especially last year. You're drafting a guy that

714
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: had twenty catches last year twenty.

715
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: So okay, here's my thing about taking him at sixty

716
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: three though.

717
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: If you take him at sixty three, though, you're expecting

718
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: him to be a fifty plus catch guy for you.

719
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: I think he can do that in the NFL. Maybe

720
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: not in year one, but by the end of his

721
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: rookie contract certainly. Here here's my thing on taking him

722
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: at sixty three. This tight end class, we had this conversation.

723
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: You remember this, like back in September. Is this a

724
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: good tight end class or not?

725
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

726
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: And you know there is no I guess there is

727
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: no Tyler Warren and with Colson Lovelin right, Sidiqku's a

728
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: good players, a unique player. This class is not top heavy.

729
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a really good tight end class in

730
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: the middle and at the bottom. It's definitely not top heavy. Yeah,

731
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: Kenyan City is going to go top twenty. Yeah, I

732
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: think he could go top ten personally, but he's going

733
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: to go top twenty. It's just like what we talked

734
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: about with the tackles. Eli Stower is going to go

735
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: top fifty.

736
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: Right.

737
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Is Oscar delt the third best tight end in this class?

738
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a case for it. I don't hate

739
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: Max Claire, but I think there's a case either. Is

740
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: between those Is drafting the third best tight end to

741
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: pick sixty three? Crazy? If you need a tight end?

742
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: I guess the question to me because I think with

743
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: this tight end class, personally, I think there's no middle C.

744
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: I think Sadika is the clear cut number one guy,

745
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: and then I think all these other guys that we've

746
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: discussed are clustered together. Well, whether you want to call

747
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: it like see, I'm looking at it as like one

748
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: really good player, no like you know, top fifty tight ends,

749
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: and then a bunch of guys that are gonna go

750
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: rounds like two through Oh see.

751
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: I think the gap between like Claire, Rausch and Delp

752
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: versus guys like Injuries, Royer Rarden, that's a gap. To me,

753
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: that's a significant gap.

754
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as significant.

755
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: I think it's a big gap. I would rather get.

756
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't take is Rauscher, Claire gonna

757
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: be there at ninety five, is Delp couldn't be there

758
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,479
Speaker 1: in ninety five. I don't think any of those guys will.

759
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 3: Okay, But I think that this is the conversation, right like,

760
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: if you don't think those guys are gonna let's say,

761
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: let's say you're gonna have to take one of those

762
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: players at sixty three, would you rather take Oscar Delp

763
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: at sixty three or the next wave that you were

764
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: talking about in the fourth round.

765
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather ticked out and maybe you trade

766
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: back from sixty three. Maybe that's what it is, you

767
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: trade a way up from ninety five.

768
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: But I think they're going to be better players at

769
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: other positions on the board at sixty three.

770
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: So that, okay, that's fair. I'm not really I guess

771
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm not considering that.

772
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: So I think that's the biggest thing with this tight

773
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: end classes that I don't think there's a huge drop

774
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: off between probably eight to ten.

775
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Isn't it just so easy you need to go edge

776
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: tight end tackle with the first three picks doesn't have

777
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to line up that way.

778
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: I know.

779
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: There has to be a player there at tight end,

780
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: Like I just I have a tough time thinking that they're.

781
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: Still Here's my point. If if Claire delp and Raush,

782
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: if you have a really good feeling that they're all

783
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: going to be gone before ninety five, yes, I'd rather

784
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: reach on those guys than miss and again, maybe you

785
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: trade back. I think that's going to be a spot

786
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: where you can certainly trade back.

787
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: I just feel like, is the drop off between Claire

788
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 3: delp Roush significant with rared and Andreies you know, Dalen

789
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: Bentley from Utah. I think it is Jolly obviously from

790
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 3: NC state.

791
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Joli's gonna be French top one hunderd guy, but he's

792
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: another one.

793
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: You were talking about these guys like in clusters, right

794
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: and like that. I think that, well, so that's one

795
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: Deeks in his own cluster. Then there's like it's different.

796
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't think the drop off from delp Rousch and

797
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: Claire to Jolie is as big as some of those

798
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: other guys just overall. But I don't think Jolie's the

799
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: kind of tight end they should be looking at.

800
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I think our disagreement, if there is one, is

801
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 3: that I view this group clustered a lot closer.

802
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm not as big on the like Midday three tight ends.

803
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: I feel like this group is. I feel like this

804
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 3: group flattens and then there's just a run of like

805
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 3: twelve guys to I said eight to ten. Maybe eight

806
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 3: to ten. Maybe I'm exaggerating of guys that are all

807
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: sort of clustered together. Do I think that Rausch and

808
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: delp and those guys are within the cluster or a

809
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: tier ahead of the others.

810
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Probably, But I don't think that I think they're I

811
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: think of their own cluster that's interesting. I just I

812
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: think Delp has a different level his at his size,

813
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: his ability to change direction kind of as a route runner,

814
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: but mostly after the catch. Like he he's fluid, He's

815
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: really fluid.

816
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 3: But he also can.

817
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: Struts the field vertically. I don't think because a lot

818
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: of times with tight ends they get pigeonholed into chain

819
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: mover versus downfield explosive threat like seems to I think

820
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: Delp can do both, and there's just not that many guys,

821
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, I get that that second group you're talking about.

822
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: How many of those guys do you think realistically have

823
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: the ability to do both at the NFL level? Will

824
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: also being able to block. They might be better individually

825
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: as chain movers, They might be better individually as field stretchers.

826
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: When I look at a tight end, I want I

827
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: want inspector gadget I go go gadget run the underneath, rout,

828
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Go go gadget, run the scene, go go gadget block.

829
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: Like I want him to pull any be able to

830
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: pull any bag out of the hat, any anywhere. I

831
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: mix those up, back out of the hat, hat out

832
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: of the bag, whatever like that. That's what I like

833
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: about Delp. And that's what I think sets him apart

834
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: from those other guys. Rausch maybe isn't his versatile as

835
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: a receiver. He's a little more stiff. He's purely a

836
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: steam stretcher. But his blocking ability is so far above

837
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: those other guys that that's right while still being able

838
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: to be a capable of receiver. That's why I put

839
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: him that in that next level, and Claire's somewhere in

840
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: between that. I just I love the well rounded it.

841
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: I wrote it'll be up tomorrow. I wrote my tight

842
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: End preview for ninety five The Sports of dot Com.

843
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: Over the last couple of days, I kept having to

844
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: go to the Soreus because I needed synonyms for well rounded,

845
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: because I was using the term well rounded so much

846
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: because that's really what I think, especially looking at Josh

847
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: McDaniel's history, right, that's what you want the tight End.

848
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: You want a guy who can do a little bit

849
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: of everything and delp to me more so than anybody else.

850
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: He's the Swiss Army Knife, He's Inspector Gadget.

851
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: So I think there's two other guys that are I

852
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: find in that mold. I think Eli Rariden has the

853
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: potential to be in that moldy but he's a little

854
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 3: bit tall and high cut, which his block.

855
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: He also has an injury history.

856
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: I like Injuries from Texas a lot, and I like

857
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 3: Bentley from Utah a lot. I think both those guys

858
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: are pretty well rounded. I think Injuries can block. I

859
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 3: think that he can stretch the seam.

860
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: Bentley was like a late breakout as a receiver though, right.

861
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bentley, though, I think is you know, an exciting

862
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 3: player to me, like six', four two fifty. PLUS i

863
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: think his blocking is actually a little bit raw right.

864
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: Now he's gonna get even better as a, blocker and

865
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: he can catch a football pretty loose with the, football you,

866
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: know in terms of his like fluidity and stuff like,

867
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: that not loose with the ball in terms of. FUMBLES

868
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: i think that there's a little bit more there with

869
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: those two. Guys SO i, guess like the question, is

870
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 3: is you, know BECAUSE i Think raridan's kind of in

871
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: that category as. Well right if you put Like raridan

872
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: Injuries bentley on the board around one twenty.

873
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Five what about H, yeah watch as.

874
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: MUCH i haven't watched him as much because there's NOT

875
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: i don't have a ton Of cincinnati team.

876
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: Okay but they're a Chef caldwell's PROT i saw, though like.

877
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: He was a little, squatty like he was a LITTLE

878
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: i don't, know he just didn't do it for.

879
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: Me i'm not as big with him. Either i'm just

880
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: he's on the he's also kind of throwing, It YEAH i.

881
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: Did he was one guy THAT i feel LIKE i

882
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: oh watching a little bit more of and Maybe i'm

883
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: just not seeing it quite, yet BUT i, thought like with,

884
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: him he's kind of a little bit of a short

885
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 3: strider and he's kind of like squatty. BUILD i had

886
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: the same issue with With, jolly to be honest with,

887
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: you where LIKE i thought he's kind of stiff and

888
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: like because he's a smaller, guy like he doesn't have

889
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: those long like eat it up you know the seam

890
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 3: or you know the underneath crossers and things like. That

891
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: like he can get up to a pretty good speed,

892
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 3: eventually but it's just takes a. WHILE i don't. Know

893
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: that's kind of HOW i felt Like royer two is

894
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: like more like. This probably that's probably a first level, player,

895
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: yeah you, know not really a guy that's gonna add

896
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: much field stretching. Element all, right let's get to some

897
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: of these other thirty visits because we could argue about

898
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: the tight ends for a. While so there are two

899
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 3: widers on the recent lists of. Reports we've talked a

900
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: lot About Casey conceptsio and on this. SHOW i don't

901
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: know how much more we need to really say About Casey.

902
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: CONCEPTSION i think that the one THING i would just

903
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: add with him is that reading and listening to some

904
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: other people in the draft community talk about, him it's

905
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: really just the ball skills that are holding people. Back

906
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: it's really just the fact that he had some drops

907
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: on his tape and doesn't have maybe the best ability

908
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: to finish through contact and at the catch, point because

909
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: the separation in the yards after catch are as good

910
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: as it is basically, ANYBODY i would say in this.

911
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: Class the guy THAT i really do want to talk about,

912
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: though and debate a little bit with you about Is

913
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: Design Stripling dejonjon stribbling From Ole Miss who is a

914
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: guy that YOU i think are this is one of your.

915
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: Crushes it seems, like just LIKE i was watching, you

916
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 3: you know too many people to really have. CRUSHES i

917
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 3: feel like it's.

918
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: NO i did you not just hear the WAY i

919
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: talked About Oscar.

920
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: Dell you do really Liked that's. TRUE i do.

921
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Actually have a guy that is probably becoming more of

922
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: a draft, crush but it's no. Level no stripling was.

923
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: Work do you remember last year before The Senior, BOWL

924
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: i Watched Kyle williams and THEN i looked and he

925
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: was like eight hundred on the consensus, Board and SO

926
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: i texted. YOU i text a bunch of other. People i'm,

927
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: like AM i missing? Something did he not declare for the? Draft?

928
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: Is they're like and off the field LIKE i just

929
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: couldn't figure it. Out and THEN i was just a

930
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: little early to the like from a media. Standpoint, Yeah

931
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: so after the Show wednesday, NIGHT i start putting together

932
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: my mock draft And I'M i forget what brought it.

933
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: Up i'm watching stribling And i'm, like, oh this is

934
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: like more THAN i was. Expecting he was like one

935
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: sixty one to seventy on the consensus. Board, Yeah i'm

936
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: like compared to the other players in that, Range i'm,

937
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: like there's a lot more. Here what AM i? Missing

938
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: AND i, GO i, look nobody's really written about. Him

939
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: there's not a ton you know on social. Media Bottom

940
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: SO i text YOU i text some, People i'm, like

941
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: what if you watched this? Guy AM i missing something

942
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: that's going on? Here not seeing a lot about? Him

943
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: AM i imagining? Things and then the next day it's

944
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: reported that The patriots are meeting with him for a thirty. Visit,

945
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: yeah so that happened three times. Week Adam randalls A,

946
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Key wattley and And Dejeon. Stribbling so we'll see if

947
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: it happens with the fourth. Guy we'll get doing a little.

948
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: Bit but we have pat yourself on the back.

949
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: THERE I i like.

950
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 7: For what he.

951
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: IS i Like, Stribbling AND i think the interesting thing

952
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: where The patriots are when you talk about receiver in this,

953
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: draft there's THE Aj brown of it all, Right AND

954
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: i think it's pretty clear at this point just from

955
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: WHAT i Don't this is no inside information for, me

956
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: but like the reports are out, there this isn't getting

957
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: resolved before the. Draft, no it's going to be a

958
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: post tune one.

959
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: Thing so.

960
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: You know if it can happen and from us on the,

961
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: outside AND i guess it doesn't really, Not but.

962
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 7: Like.

963
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: How do you? Draft how do you approach? Receiver if

964
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: you might Have Aj brown but you might.

965
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: Not, yeah right IF i, wrote you, KNOW i told

966
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: you we're doing our mock, drafts AND i this is

967
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: WHAT i wrote at the top of the mock, drafts

968
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: was like, too if they trade for A. J brown

969
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 3: and they have that in their back, pocket they probably

970
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 3: don't need to draft a receiver at. All no versus

971
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: if they do. Trade if they don't trade FOR Aj,

972
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 3: brown excuse, me if they don't HAVE Aj, brown you

973
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 3: might draft a receiver at thirty. One like this is

974
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: literally the difference between it being a first round pick

975
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: and you're on your draft sheet and being not on the.

976
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Board but you also have to even if you think

977
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: you're trading for, him if you. Haven't there's an old,

978
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: saying you haven't caught the fish till you got it

979
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: in the, boat, Right like you got to prepare for.

980
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: That so how do you almost split the? Difference and

981
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: that's a wide, receiver mid round wide receiver who can

982
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: do some of the things THAT Aj brown, does like,

983
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: stylistically he profiles. SIMILARLY Aj brown obviously does it as

984
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: at a much higher. Level and the other thing is

985
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: we've TALKED Aj brown's twenty nine and you, know you

986
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: get a year or two out of him Maybe stribbling's

987
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: a guy further down the road that grows into a bigger.

988
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: Role the THING i like About stribbling and the REASON

989
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: i Like stribbling for The patriots specifically more than some

990
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: of the other receivers in that. Range, yeah he does

991
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: something The patriots don't currently have on the, roster not

992
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: in a pack. Like he has, size okay Mac collins'.

993
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: Side he has, speed, Okay Kyle williams's. Speed he has

994
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 1: contested catchability, Okay Keisehan budi is that those are three separate,

995
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: players and he can do all those. Things you know

996
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: six two two oh seven ran a four four to three.

997
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: SIX i, BELIEVE i know he's in the four. Threes,

998
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: yes he's got really really good body control and he

999
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: can go outside his frame catch the. Ball it allows

1000
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: him to kind of stop start on a. Dime his hitch,

1001
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: routes his comeback, routes his curls are all really. Good

1002
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: he can get vertical as. Well for his. Size i'd

1003
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: like to see him be a better contested catch. Receiver

1004
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the big knock for. Me the other,

1005
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: one he's not like nobody's gonna confuse him For Julian.

1006
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Edelman he's not great at changing, direction BUT i think

1007
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: for a player his, size it. Works he's not as

1008
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: stiff AS i expected a player his size to, be

1009
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: especially a player projected to go in that. Range so

1010
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: he's currently won fifty six on the big. Board he'd

1011
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: be in play for me at one twenty. Five, Yeah

1012
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: SO i JUST i think he brings some things to

1013
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: the table that they don't. HAVE i do think there's

1014
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: some upside with. Him and though he's twenty, three he

1015
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: did play a gimmicky offense in college and didn't you,

1016
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: know we didn't have a thousand yard, Season so there's

1017
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: the production. Knock but LIKE i Trust dodd downingymore Than

1018
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: i've trusted their wide receiver coaches in the, PAST i

1019
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: think they can find a role for. Him and if

1020
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: they trade for A. J, brown maybe that role, diminishes

1021
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think it goes away. Entirely that's one

1022
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: other thing about. Him he blocks his ass. Off that

1023
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: guy loves to block and he's good at. It so

1024
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: you know some people are probably her big receiver who

1025
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: likes to, block And Quill Harry all, right well it's

1026
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: one twenty. FIVE i wouldn't take him at thirty.

1027
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: One he also runs a four to. Three he also

1028
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 3: run what did he?

1029
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: Kill? Run four or? Five was it? That? Wow? YEAH

1030
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: i almost talking about him one twenty, Five LIKE i

1031
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't take him at ninety. Six, yeah he's A

1032
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: day three pick to. Me but as far As day

1033
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: three picks, GO i like his, MAKEUP i like what

1034
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: he brings the. Table i'd be in on. Him i'd

1035
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: be in on, Him AND i think he perfectly splits

1036
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: that gap where all, right he probably doesn't solve all

1037
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: your problems if you don't GET Aj, Brown but there

1038
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: are some things you would ASK Aj brown to do

1039
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: that you don't have any other guys on the roster

1040
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: that can. Do he's not he can probably.

1041
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: Do he's not guy after the catch AT Aj brown Is.

1042
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: No that's the big.

1043
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: Gap AND i don't know IF Aj brown is that guy.

1044
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: Anymore but at least when we're talking about the idea

1045
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: OF Aj, brown assuming that maybe this last year In

1046
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: philly was just kind of, him CAN i being chucking?

1047
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: Out CAN i push back on the after the catch

1048
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: thing a little?

1049
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Bit he doesn't have.

1050
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: That there is one when he runs the comeback he's

1051
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: really good at if the corner bites too, much you

1052
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: know that play where like turn Like Malcolm, mitchell, right

1053
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: the reverse tee, step like making the pay on the t,

1054
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: step and then he has the four to three speed.

1055
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: Pulway he's really good at that. Play. Like he's not

1056
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: somebody to throw screens. Too he's not somebody's gonna create

1057
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: a lot after a. Slant but on that, comeback Which

1058
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: drake was pretty good at throwing last. Year, yeah he

1059
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: does have a knack for getting his hips, turned you,

1060
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: know taking advantage of the, corner taking a bad angle

1061
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: and getting up the. FIELD i like him there after the,

1062
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: catch after, that, yeah the other. Stuff he, again nobody's

1063
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: gonna stake him For Julian edelman after the, catch nobody's

1064
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: gon to mistake him For Pop. Douglas, there there is

1065
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: a little bit of something, there more so THAN i

1066
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: would expect from a guy his.

1067
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: Size, okay So i'm Gonna i'm gonna agree on that

1068
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: And i'm gonna disagree with. YOU i think the two

1069
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: things that stand out to me WHEN i watched him

1070
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: were ability to be press coverage is. Good it definitely

1071
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: has some wiggle at the line of. Scrimmage some lateral

1072
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 3: quickness at the line of scrimmage and acceleration in the

1073
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: initial ten yards or so off the line of scrimmage

1074
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 3: is really good to stack. Corners he had one rep

1075
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 3: Against georgia from the slot where he just dusted to

1076
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: the corner and press his repressive. Rep those reps are.

1077
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 3: NICE i do really like his. VERSATILITY i think that

1078
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: that's one thing that you didn't necessarily hit on THAT

1079
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: i just wanted to add in.

1080
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: There, WELL i like him on the, outside but, sure.

1081
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: But he's a guy THAT i think can move around

1082
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: a little. Bit they actually even had Him.

1083
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: Sorry just real, quick because you just mentioned it to

1084
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: your point About. Georgia, yeah AND i know you're big

1085
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: on this with the he plays with BRASS i.

1086
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 3: Know and it made me feel worse about The Chris

1087
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: brassele thing because Maybe georgia just didn't play well.

1088
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Good receiver, Maybe, yeah MAYBE i should feel worse About Dylan,

1089
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: everett WHO i, like Butainst. Georgian, yeah he had he

1090
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: had a regular. Season both games Against georgia were.

1091
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: Good, yeah and HE i would say like they used

1092
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: him almost like sort of like on the wing as

1093
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 3: like an h back type of thing where they'd like

1094
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: put him behind uh the offensive. Line, yeah and he'd

1095
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 3: like run slide routes and he'd. Block like the blocking

1096
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: didn't go so hot from there because he's not that.

1097
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 3: Big you, know he's not tight, end so he's like

1098
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: but like at least he's. There you, know it's a

1099
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: speed bump to the.

1100
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 6: Ball.

1101
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: Uh and then they obviously hit him, off would hit

1102
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: him on those slide routes or those submarine routes under

1103
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage where like once he hits that

1104
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: runway at four to, three like you got some speed

1105
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: after the. CATCH i think the one thing THAT i

1106
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: maybe didn't see as, much AND i know you're not

1107
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: saying that he's like the quickest guy in and out of,

1108
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 3: breaks horizontal, cuts first and second level, separation all those

1109
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: things would be concerns for. ME i did not see

1110
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 3: a guy that was a big separator at the top

1111
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: of the route when he was asked. Cut if you're

1112
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: asking him to do things on the vertical routrey running

1113
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: it's trying to come back in that type of. Sea

1114
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 3: the concern THAT i would have with that is THAT i,

1115
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: think if you're going to be really good in that,

1116
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: role you have to have a. Slant you have to

1117
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: either be able to run a slant or be able

1118
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: to run it under one of those two routes like

1119
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 3: a short in because you need to have something into

1120
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: the middle of the field at the first level because

1121
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 3: otherwise the, corners you, know it eliminates the middle of

1122
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 3: the field from your press release package and so they

1123
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about you releasing and breaking. Inside

1124
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: so like now they can sit on the hitches that

1125
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: comebacks and the. Verticals.

1126
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Right SO.

1127
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: I always say it's you, Know i'm probably not giving

1128
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 3: him enough credit because he's an, awesome like all time,

1129
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: Player but Like Dez bryant ran like three routes. Too

1130
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 3: he ran a, slant a, comeback and a go and

1131
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: he made almost a Borderline hall Of fame career running three.

1132
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: Routes that to me is the base line of any

1133
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 3: type of receiver in that. MOLD i don't know If

1134
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: stribbling has that first level quickness to separate on a,

1135
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: Slant so can he develop? It is it something that you,

1136
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: know he just wasn't asked to do a lot because

1137
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: of the nature of the. Offense all fair, points like

1138
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 3: maybe he CAN i think he's going to be where

1139
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: he's going to go because he's kind he's kind of

1140
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: a one trick pony at this, point you. Know BUT

1141
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 3: i think that that's if that's what he could, develop mind.

1142
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: Slant if you felt he could develop a, slant if.

1143
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: He could develop some sort of first level separation just

1144
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: to get corners to respect the first level, route THEN

1145
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: i would feel like he could probably be a top

1146
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: one hundred.

1147
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Guy can just his release help with? That you mentioned,

1148
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: RELEASE i.

1149
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: Think that it mostly is the top of the, route

1150
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 3: and so LIKE i think it's the separation at the

1151
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: top of the, route the addability to sink, hips accelerate

1152
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 3: through the break, point open up your hips and. Cut you,

1153
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 3: know when you watch him kind of break at the

1154
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 3: top of the, route it takes like an extra. Step

1155
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: you want most of the, time you want receivers that

1156
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: can break in three. Steps you have three steps as

1157
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: efficient at THE nfl. Level, right you have a step

1158
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: into the, break the, brake and then your drive, step

1159
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: which is the most important. Step so when you come

1160
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 3: out of the break with the drive, step you want

1161
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: your foot to already be pointing where you want to.

1162
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 3: Go you don't want that foot to still be pointing

1163
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: up the. Field so guys that have great drive, steps

1164
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: like you, know for, Example i'll just use the pinnacle

1165
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 3: probably in the league right, Now Jackson smith And. Jigba

1166
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 3: he has that ability to already be opening his foot

1167
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: in his hip towards the break so that he can

1168
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: just accelerate right through the, break whereas other guys are

1169
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 3: still moving. Forward they're still moving upfield when they, break

1170
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: and that's why you get those false steps and struggle

1171
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 3: to gather their weight and sink and. Cut so a

1172
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: lot of these, guys Like i'll give you another example

1173
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: in That, MOLD i really enjoyed watching Ted. HURST i

1174
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 3: thought that he has some gidea. UP i think he

1175
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: has some size that's, Rare like he's you, know kind

1176
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: of like knock OFF dk metcalf right like where like

1177
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: he has all like really good, size really good vertical,

1178
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 3: ability but he's a little bit clunky at the top

1179
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: of the, Route like he might take four or five

1180
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 3: steps to gather and cut when you need to be

1181
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 3: able to take. Three AND i think that that's what

1182
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: separates guys that are like elite versus guys that are

1183
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: put by lance in that group. Too, YES i would

1184
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: Put Bryce Lance like a lot of people, Say Bryce

1185
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 3: lance is Like Christian. WATSON i the reason WHY i

1186
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 3: would push back on that Is Christian watson was such a,

1187
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 3: fluid smooth athlete Like Christian. Watson WHEN i think At

1188
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: christian and it's obviously helmet scouting With Bryce lance to

1189
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: compare him To Christian. Watson BUT i remember Watching Christian

1190
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: watson when he came out of, college and remember when

1191
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: he would take like handoffs out of the backfield at,

1192
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: college And i'd be, like oh My, God like this

1193
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: guy's you, know six two, plus great, speed and he's

1194
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: got the fluidity and sort of the you, know the

1195
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: movement skill to be able to like basically take like

1196
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: sweeps and handoffs out of the. Backfield you, know these

1197
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: guys too stiff for, That like they're too rigid for

1198
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: that type of those types of. Actions last one here

1199
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 3: on the thirty. Visits that will take our break and

1200
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 3: then we'll get into our roster reset and calls and

1201
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: emails and all that good. Stuff caden McDonald From Ohio,

1202
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: state the nose tackle From Ohio state reported and on

1203
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 3: a thirty visit with The, patriots to me and AGAIN

1204
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 3: i have no inside, information like we always say on the,

1205
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 3: SHOW i would just say that this one is really

1206
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 3: good player right in our. Range we should probably do

1207
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: some homework on, him, right you. KNOW i don't know

1208
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: if it's the biggest. NEED i don't know if it's

1209
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: the direction that they end up going, in but they

1210
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 3: should know they should have an extensive report done On caden.

1211
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 3: McDonald it's the right thing to. Do the one thing

1212
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: THAT i really like About caden McDonald that kind of

1213
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 3: separates him from typical nose. Tackles he is a playmaking nose,

1214
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 3: Tackle like he had like thirty plus run stops last.

1215
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: Year this is a guy that makes plays on the

1216
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: other side of the line of scrimmage as a no.

1217
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: Tackle so this is not a space. Eater this is

1218
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: not somebody that's just gonna clog lanes and hold up

1219
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: blocks and build a wall and all that kind of.

1220
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 3: Stuff he gets off, blocks he, Penetrates he stuff's runs

1221
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: a really really high.

1222
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: Rate, Yeah i'm with, you maybe doing their due, diligence

1223
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: maybe trying to you, know there's some teams that need

1224
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: to nose tackle the top of the second. Round, yeah

1225
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: trying to scare them into a trade up potentially if

1226
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: it comes to. That so, YEAH i don't, know it

1227
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: would be a weird pick for.

1228
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: Me it would really quickly and THEN i will take this.

1229
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Break where do you stand On mendoza versus Ty? Simpson

1230
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: because we can't be in the draft community and not

1231
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: give our take on. This so we have thirty seconds

1232
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: before the break to give a take on Dan orlowski

1233
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: right lighting the world on.

1234
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: Fire, look if people want to have their differing, TAKES

1235
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: i have nothing against differing. Takes like if you want

1236
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: to say Ty simpson and there's always a quarterback that

1237
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: gets too gassed. Up AND i talked about this the other.

1238
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: Week it's unfair to the, quarterback unfair TO jj, McCarthy you,

1239
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: know because the expectations become so high and then they

1240
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: get dumped on for being in a situation they should

1241
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: have never. Been In, SURE i thought it was gonna

1242
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: be nusmya raller that got this super artificial. HYPE i

1243
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: didn't think it was gonna Be Tye simpson because his

1244
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: games just very. Vanilla he's noth't necessarily wrong with. That

1245
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: it was very. Vanilla but, like if you want to

1246
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: have a different opinion by all means have. IT i

1247
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: Had Jamier gibbs ahead of B Jean robinson in that,

1248
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: draft which didn't turn. Out probably as wrong as it

1249
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: looked at the. Time so probably, wrong but not as

1250
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: wrong as it looked at the.

1251
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 3: Time, yeah they were just both.

1252
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Good they're both but LIKE i had reasons for, It

1253
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: LIKE i went, IN i did the, RESEARCH i backed it.

1254
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: Up Saying Fernando mendoza didn't play in big. Games it's just,

1255
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: False it's just patently.

1256
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 3: False, yeah that was.

1257
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: Weird One national championship Beat ohio was Tab Generational Dye

1258
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: make ten.

1259
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: Championship he felt like he didn't play well in the big.

1260
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 3: Games back and Watch Ohio. STATE i, mean he didn't

1261
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 3: play very well until the.

1262
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: End go back and what he did to That miami.

1263
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: Defense what were they up On alabama? Again was it

1264
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: thirty something and?

1265
00:56:59,600 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1266
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: Nothing so you, know if you want to come with

1267
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: distats and, whatever we'll simply you, Know mendoza was heavily

1268
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 1: reliant on RPOs and maybe ed town around.

1269
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 4: Them.

1270
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Whatever just crazy to say about N indian a, quarterback

1271
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: but like fine to say he didn't play in big.

1272
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: Game And dan also he had a, chance like they

1273
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: gave him an out to, Say, oh, no you mean

1274
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: he didn't play. Well, no you just say didn't play

1275
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: in big games like you got. It you got to

1276
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: come with something better than. That that's the reality of.

1277
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 8: IT i just.

1278
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: Agree and if you but if you want to have the,

1279
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: debate we can have. Debate you have to have the

1280
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: debate and good. Faith you can't say things that aren't.

1281
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: True so let me be clear in saying that we

1282
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 3: all have blind spots and we all miss when it

1283
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: comes to this kind of. Stuff the one thing THAT

1284
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: i have noticed about former quarterbacks when they evaluate draft

1285
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 3: prospects is they probably lean a little bit heavier towards, mechanics.

1286
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 3: Footwork progression reads like just the nuances and like the

1287
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: details of the. Position where if they're just strictly grading

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00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 3: tape and they're saying this is how a coaching staff

1289
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: would grade this, film that's not necessarily the. Draft the

1290
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: draft is a lot of. Projecting it's a lot of

1291
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: ceiling projection in particular of like who has more, skill

1292
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: who has more raw, athleticism who has a stronger, arm

1293
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 3: who has more tools in his, toolbox who has a

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Speaker 3: more running, ability who has more ability to drive the

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Speaker 3: football into tight, windows to make different types of, throws

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Speaker 3: to layer, footballs to drive, footballs like all these different

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Speaker 3: types of things are not did he make the right,

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00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 3: read did he throw on? Time did he have the right,

1299
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 3: footwork and all that kind of. Stuff so when we

1300
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: get into these draft conversations and this is you, know

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00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: we just went through this a couple of years, AGO

1302
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 3: i feel Like Drake maygott was getting dragged down by

1303
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 3: a lot of these types of people because he was

1304
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: not a polished prospect coming out of. College but what

1305
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: they were missing was that he was functionally a good

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Speaker 3: quarterback at the. Time his floor was higher than they,

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Speaker 3: thought and his athleticism and his traits were just so

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Speaker 3: be what he is, today which is A mvp caliber.

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Speaker 3: Quarterback SO i always see this time of, Year Ty

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Speaker 3: THAN i probably gave him credit. For but Like Bo,

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Speaker 3: nicks was this guy In Drake may's draft where it's

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Speaker 3: like the quarterbacks coach, quarterback you, know like this is

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Speaker 3: detailed all that kind of. STUFF i feel like when

1318
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,480
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1319
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Speaker 3: See they see a pro ready. Quarterback what they don't

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Speaker 3: see WHAT i was watched BECAUSE i didn't really watch

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Speaker 3: Ty simpson. NECESSARILY i did watch a lot Of Jeremy,

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Speaker 3: right to. You and the phone Calls patty is an

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Speaker 1: Patty, hey good, Afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Jen we doing.

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Speaker 11: SO i apologize if you guys brought any running backs,

1403
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 11: up BUT i know how you guys feel About Adam

1404
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 11: randall And Mike mike Uh, WASHINGTON i, believe BUT i

1405
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 11: wanted to know if what you guys thought about both

1406
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 11: of The Penn state running. Backs do you guys think

1407
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 11: that They're day three guys and either of them are

1408
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 11: good fits with this? Team And i'll take it off, there.

1409
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: Guys, thanks thanks for the, Call. Patty so you know, Me,

1410
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 3: alex the hardest thing for me to do with the

1411
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: draft ace is to watch running. Backs it's the hardest.

1412
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 3: THING i Can't IT'S i always wait until Like april

1413
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 3: to get to the running backs BECAUSE i hate watching running.

1414
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: BACKS i just don't know. Why it just doesn't move the.

1415
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: Need it's, just you know what it is is like

1416
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: running backs in, college especially the backs that come from

1417
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 3: the big, schools they have so much room to do

1418
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 3: things That i'm just, LIKE i don't think that this

1419
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 3: any of this translates, Right, like there's just so much

1420
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 3: open space for this guy that all he is doing

1421
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: is running straight really fast in a straight. Line and

1422
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 3: although he had a really good rookie season And i'm

1423
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 3: still high on him as a. Player, YEAH i think

1424
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: we saw some of this With Trayvon henderson last year

1425
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 3: where when it came to really reading through the line

1426
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 3: of scrimmage and finding the right entry points and why you,

1427
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: know going where the defense isn't and all that kind of.

1428
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: Stuff vision is really WHAT i should be saying that it's.

1429
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: Hard it's a hard skill to. Translate as far as

1430
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 3: what he, Asked Mike washington's expected to be a pretty high.

1431
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 1: Draft he's gonna eight a great. Combine he's gonna go

1432
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: he he's gonna, go you, know top.

1433
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: SEVENTY i think if they drafted running back in the

1434
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: first two rounds that would make zero.

1435
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Speaker 1: S i to, me the highest is one seventy, one

1436
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: like even one thirty, one which is probably where you

1437
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: need to Take singleton Or. Allen who are The Penn state. Guys,

1438
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: yeah the profile kind of. Similarly they're both, big physical.

1439
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 1: Backs singleton is a little more more, explosiveness a little

1440
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: more juice in his. Game you, know they run, hard

1441
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: they're tough to. Tackle they, can you, know compete between

1442
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: the tackles your. PLAYERS i don't know that i'd want

1443
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: The pagers take running back that. High they definitely fit

1444
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: the MOLD i think of what The patriots are looking

1445
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: for in the, position just a matter if they want

1446
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: to draft on that high Like singleton could go top you, know,

1447
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: fringe top one. Hundred, yeah So allen's probably a little

1448
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: bit later because single then are really good twenty twenty

1449
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: four and then kind of came back down to earth

1450
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: a little bit last, year as did most players of

1451
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: That Penn state. PROGRAM i think it's more about the

1452
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: program than the. Player, yeah they're good. PLAYERS i like.

1453
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: THEM i can Play.

1454
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 3: Adam, randall another guy THAT i was. ON i thought

1455
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: we talked about him last, week which.

1456
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: We, did AND i told you you need to watch,

1457
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: him and you, like we're going to refuse, to but

1458
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: now they've met with, him you kind of have. To

1459
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: he's also not your typical running. Back watch, like there's

1460
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: a lot.

1461
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: So that's What that's WHAT i like about him is

1462
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 3: that he does a lot more than just run the

1463
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 3: football between the tackles or something like.

1464
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: THAT i love.

1465
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 3: IT i like the idea of adding somebody with some

1466
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 3: kickoff return. JUICE i think that he AND i know

1467
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: it's a lazy comparison to compare him To, patterson but

1468
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: WHAT i WOULD i think about the comparison is LIKE

1469
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 3: i do think he can catch the ball a little

1470
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 3: bit and play a little bit of a receiver as.

1471
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: Well so like it's not like you're just rafting another

1472
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 3: guy to eat, carries, Right like this is a guy

1473
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 3: that's going to bring BECAUSE i just. Can't the THING

1474
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: i struggled with the running backs with The, patriots, yeah

1475
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: is That Ramandra stevenson And Trevon henderson are gonna be

1476
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 3: are going to be your running backs next year one

1477
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: of them gets, hurt of, course that's always a. Caveat

1478
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: but at the same, time LIKE i would like to

1479
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 3: add a running back that's going to bring something a

1480
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 3: little bit, unique, sure because if they're all three of

1481
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: them are, healthy then you want, roles you, know for

1482
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 3: all three. Guys randall could do.

1483
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: That, Randal, YEAH i mean he's got to learn some

1484
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: of the finer points of playing the, position not just

1485
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: like what you were talking about, earlier the field division

1486
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: stuff and all. That he's got to learn how to pass.

1487
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: Block he's not really to do, that but six, three two,

1488
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: thirty like he's got a frame to do. It So

1489
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm i'm still big into the idea Of Adam randall

1490
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: in the sixth, round and it seems like they you,

1491
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: know they met with, him so, yeah?

1492
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 3: Agreed all, Right zach is In New. Hampshire what's, Up?

1493
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 7: ZACH i THINK i thinks pick my. CALL i just

1494
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 7: wanted to know who is your favorite prospect in the

1495
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 7: entire draft of The patriots this? Year and then also

1496
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 7: what do you Think Kyle williams role will be next?

1497
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 7: YEAR i was a big fan of the pick when

1498
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 7: they made, it AND i just wanted to hear your

1499
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 7: thoughts from. That thanks, Guys, yeah.

1500
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for the. Call is at your favorite prospect for

1501
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 3: The patriots in the?

1502
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: DRAFTS a tough one pound for pound all things, consider

1503
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: it might be Depe do you really really? MIGHT i

1504
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: think he can? Play, YEAH i, mean don't get me,

1505
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: Wrong it's NOT i SAY i take him at thirty,

1506
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: One LIKE i think some of these edge rushers are,

1507
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: Better but like for where you're going to get, him

1508
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: for what he could potentially give, YOU i don't, KNOW

1509
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: i really like, him CAN i? Say Jordan? Tyson, no you.

1510
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: Can and that's that weird thing, Though like if he

1511
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: falls to thirty, one there's a. Reason how bad is his?

1512
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: Hamstring how bad are his? Medicals going? That, like do

1513
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: you want to take him at thirty. One, yeah, yeah you,

1514
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: KNOW i like Like, MESIDOR i Like. Akis, yeah it's

1515
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: a tough question to.

1516
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 3: ANSWER i think it's a tough question to answer because

1517
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: they're picking him thirty, one, right so there's not like

1518
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 3: this obvious. Talent you, KNOW i Watched Jordan tyson the

1519
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 3: other day BECAUSE I i texted you and, said DO

1520
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: i have to Watch Jordan tyson because of all this

1521
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 3: buzz about the injuries knocking him down the? Board SO i.

1522
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 3: DID i, mean it's only it's only gonna be injury.

1523
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: Related it's not gonna be anything to do with tape

1524
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 3: because he's he might be the best receiver in the

1525
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 3: class just off the, tape so it's obviously injury. RELATED

1526
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: i would say my favorite player in the draft is

1527
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 3: Probably Dylan dynaman, honestly BUT i need slash where he's gonna.

1528
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: Go it doesn't add.

1529
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: Up, oh if we're just going favorite player, Overall Caleb, downs, Easy, yeah, yeah.

1530
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: EASY i Love Caleb. Downs that, dude he's gonna be a. Stud.

1531
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 3: YEAH i really Like dynaman for The patriots at thirty.

1532
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 3: One it's tougher because he just don't know who's gonna

1533
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 3: be there at thirty. One well that's Why i'm, like you,

1534
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 3: Know Chris brazil is probably my favorite player in the draft,

1535
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: period But i'm not saying that that is necessarily for THIRTY,

1536
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: us But brazil just, overall so.

1537
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: There's like a pound for pound. Thing, like, AGAIN i

1538
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: really like GAY. BACKUS i can fully understand within saying

1539
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't take him at thirty. One, yeah but

1540
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: like there's a world we're all more excited about Gay

1541
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: bacchus at sixty three or if they trade up in

1542
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: like the fifties THAN i am about whoever they take

1543
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: a thirty one BECAUSE i hate the thirty one, pick

1544
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: but like that's just gonna be, like, oh it's great,

1545
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: values good, player he, fits blah blah. Whatever you, know

1546
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: same thing With, delp that kind of.

1547
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 3: Thing so after my my cul strange meltdown on The

1548
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: Old show a couple of years, AGO i tried to

1549
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 3: like play it cool when The patriots draft, somebody even

1550
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 3: if it's SOMEBODY i really really. Like, obviously when they

1551
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 3: last two years they've been picking super. High but my

1552
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 3: very first year covering the draft with the, team they

1553
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 3: Picked gonzo AND i Loved, god he was my number one.

1554
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 3: PLAYER i was swooning over him all draft. SEASON i

1555
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: just kept, saying there's no way he's going to be.

1556
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: There there's no way he's going to be. There AND

1557
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: i tried to play it cool because that was one

1558
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: year after The strange. Meltdown if they Draft, BRAZZLE i

1559
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 3: might not be able to keep.

1560
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: It they had there's a clip of Me Felgrin maz

1561
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: played it when they draft A. GONZALES i did not

1562
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: contain my excite. Y. Yeah, yeah that was that was

1563
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: post thing post like twenty yeah. Twelve that was Probably

1564
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: bill's best pick in a. DECADE i, Mean drake may.

1565
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: PICK i think me AND i was on The Joe,

1566
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 1: MURRAY i think we just did like a big to.

1567
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 3: ME i don't know what to.

1568
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 8: Say no that the, server that's already. Impressive strange from you.

1569
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 8: Guy we don't need to do this WITH i don't

1570
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 8: need to do.

1571
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 1: This just play uh? ANYWAY i.

1572
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 3: See but you could even hear my voice trying to

1573
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: play it cool As i'm like saying it.

1574
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 4: Just.

1575
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: Slowly video sells it because you have like the cheap

1576
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: at home podcast set up and it looks like you're being.

1577
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: INTERROGATED i was being interrogated By Bill. Belichick oh, man uh,

1578
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 3: no The gonza pick was. Fun now that you that

1579
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 3: peaked up about? You, yeah you knew all, RIGHT dj

1580
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: is In North. Carolina what's, up dj?

1581
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 12: OH i wanted to touch On Dinel. Boston, okay who

1582
01:11:59,080 --> 01:11:59,719
Speaker 12: A J brown?

1583
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 4: Situation? EVAN i heard you Last we said you GOT

1584
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:10,919
Speaker 4: ptsd From Nick Kia harry About Dinzel. Boston but With Dinzel,

1585
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 4: BOSTON i think people don't give him credit for his

1586
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: smooth route running and his size and his place. SPEED

1587
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 4: i know he didn't run at, forty but the play

1588
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 4: speed is on.

1589
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 12: Tape you can see he's he was a part returner

1590
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 12: For washington at. Times and his place strength and body

1591
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 12: control and. EFFORT i Know verbe would love, that and

1592
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 12: some of the best receivers in the game got all

1593
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 12: three of. Those SO i MEAN i Love. BOSTON i

1594
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 12: WOULD i would love if they take him at thirty.

1595
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: One, sure, yeah djon, LISTEN i Liked boston more THAN

1596
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 3: i THOUGHT i was going. To, Yeah and the only

1597
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 3: reasons WHY i don't Like boston is BECAUSE i swear

1598
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: off that type of receiver long.

1599
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: AGO i keep trying with the skinny speed. Guy last.

1600
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 3: YEAR i would not do Keon. COLEMAN i would not

1601
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 3: take key On coleman series is that last, year two years,

1602
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 3: ago two years?

1603
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: AGO i, see BUT i couldn't do, it. DON'T i

1604
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: just want to put Don't coleman's not the comp For.

1605
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Boston coleman is the comp For malecki fields LIKE i just.

1606
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: But they're all in a similar mold AND i could

1607
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 3: not do. It The Denzel, boston, though you said it

1608
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 3: that you were surprised how MUCH i liked. HIM i.

1609
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 3: WAS i liked him a lot more THAN i THOUGHT

1610
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 3: i was going. TO i think the number one thing

1611
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 3: THAT i liked about him the most was obviously that

1612
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 3: he's not just a contested catch, catcher BECAUSE i think

1613
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 3: that gives him a bad rap for always being. Covered

1614
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: he's a hands, Catcher like this is a guy THAT

1615
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 3: i don't THINK i ever saw a single pass go

1616
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: into his body when he caught the. Football that skill

1617
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: IS i would say one, underrated but two really plays

1618
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 3: in the, league like really plays in THE. Nfl all

1619
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: the best receivers in the, league for the most, part

1620
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 3: are are hands, catchers are guys that catch the ball

1621
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: away from their. Frame so that that was a really good,

1622
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 3: trade AND i agree with the. COLLEGE i think he's

1623
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: still in that big BODY x. Mold but for a

1624
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: big BODY, x he's a little bit more fluid than

1625
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 3: A Nikhil harry a Key On.

1626
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: Coleman he reminds me a little bit Of. Teed, yeah

1627
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: AND i, mean obviously he's not at the same. Level

1628
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: he's not quite as. Big he's not Like i'll ask you,

1629
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: again though we did this last, WEEK i might have

1630
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: to ask this every. Week you see where you're at

1631
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: thirty one between a Receiver Denzel boston And Chris browse

1632
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: of who you taking go back and forth on this every.

1633
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: Day that's where are you at? Today Denzel?

1634
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 3: Boston? TODAY i told you this is recency?

1635
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: Today why?

1636
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 3: WHY I i think that the caller raises good points

1637
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,800
Speaker 3: about the fluidity within his. ROUTES i think he's a

1638
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 3: little bit more fluid than the typical bust in that.

1639
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 3: Mold probably not. HE i think the difference between him

1640
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 3: and like a guy Like ted is after the, catch,

1641
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: Right ted is extremely explosive after the. CATCH i also

1642
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 3: can't really get the zone coverage metro out of my

1643
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 3: head With Denzel. Boston they weren't great in terms of

1644
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: like yards per route.

1645
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: Run you, said you're Take. Boston you're in Take, Boston

1646
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: and now you're giving a bunch of.

1647
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 3: Reasons, ye BECAUSE i guess because this IS. I this

1648
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 3: is the NOT i swore off this type of. RECEIVER

1649
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 3: i told you, THAT i told myself THAT i would

1650
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 3: not get geeked up about this type of receiver. AGAIN

1651
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 3: i said that.

1652
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: Because still taking him Over brasel at thirty. ONE i, guess, so,

1653
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 1: yeah because you know what it is next week and

1654
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: then we gotta move, on BECAUSE i want to get

1655
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 1: into our roster reset you want it, Is alex is

1656
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 1: THAT i didn't have enough conviction in myself back in

1657
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to Tell Bill belichick that he made the

1658
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: wrong draft.

1659
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 3: Pick LIKE i was like still too new to this

1660
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 3: and TOO i was too, raw, Right LIKE i just

1661
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 3: couldn't do. That BUT i knew that there was something

1662
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 3: weird About Nikhil harry and how the way that he

1663
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 3: moved and that he was, heavy and you, know the

1664
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 3: caller mentioned punt. Returning Nikhil harry had a was it

1665
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 3: a punter kickoff At Arizona state where he like reversed

1666
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 3: field on one where he like ran Oh i'm under

1667
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 3: the first field and went all the way up the

1668
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: sideline for like a ninety plus yard uh kicker punt.

1669
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: RETURN i can't. Remember it was a kicker of, Punt

1670
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 3: and at the, TIME i was, like, oh, wow that's.

1671
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 3: Amazing but then if you go back and watch, it

1672
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 3: you see how slow he's moving as he's trying to reverse,

1673
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 3: field and you recognize, like, oh, yeah that's not going

1674
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 3: to play in THE, Nfl like he's not going to

1675
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 3: be able to do that in the. LEAGUE i just.

1676
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: WASN'T i.

1677
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 13: WAS i.

1678
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: WAS i was a wee young. LAD i wasn't like

1679
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 3: convicted enough to be, like, No Bill belichick is wrong

1680
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 3: for taking this. Guy NOW i feel LIKE i, Overcorrected

1681
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: like Now i'm, LIKE i can't do it with these

1682
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: types of.

1683
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: RECEIVERS i just but you're still taking him at thirty

1684
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: one over. Breads, YEAH i, Am, yeah, WHY i mean

1685
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: asking him.

1686
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: WHY i think he's a little BIT i think he's

1687
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 3: stronger Than brasil. Yep AND i think he's probably a

1688
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: little bit of a better route runner just in terms

1689
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: of the routes he's being asked to. Run BUT i

1690
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 3: think that mostly it's that that play strain the, hands

1691
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 3: like you know that sort of. Thing brasl is all separation,

1692
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 3: Right like he's got. Speed he's got really good sinking

1693
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 3: cut for the guy his size and a guy at his,

1694
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 3: height and he's just got he's got, speed he's got, burners,

1695
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: Right so like he's the guy that's gonna get.

1696
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: Open he sound like you want to Take brazzle thirty.

1697
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: One of COURSE i.

1698
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: Do he's my favorite player in the.

1699
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: Draft, okay so then you're Taking brazzle thirty. ONE i don't.

1700
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: Know you're just trying to answer both so that you're not. Cornered, yes,

1701
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: speaking they'll say it with some. Conviction No brazzle Or

1702
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: boston at thirty. ONE i mean some, Conviction. Brasele there we.

1703
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 3: Go it's not enough. Conviction we?

1704
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 4: Do that was not?

1705
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: Conviction are we doing Recency buyers? Series?

1706
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 4: Do we?

1707
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: Said, OKAY i got a safety for. You Watch safety

1708
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: this other. NIGHT i know everybody's all geeked up out Of.

1709
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: Miami he's more of like a nickel than a true.

1710
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: Safety Keane scott ran like in the four twos at

1711
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: the pro day the other. Day, Yes i'm gonna talk

1712
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: about the Other miami, Safety Jacoby thomas, yeah you like this.

1713
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: Guy i'm doing some research on To Kobe. Thomas and,

1714
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: look this isn't the be all end all of a player's,

1715
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: makeup but this caught my. Attention there's a video of

1716
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 1: him before one of The bowl games last year talking

1717
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: about how much which he loves hitting, people and he

1718
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: calls the physical part of the game a lost art

1719
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: and says that he'll just he knows if he keeps hitting,

1720
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: somebody di'll eventually fold and he'll play that. Game and

1721
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 1: if you go and you watch on, tape there are

1722
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: games where the wide receivers are visibly afraid of him

1723
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: on the. Field it happened With Carnell. Tate you can

1724
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: See Carnell taate goes to run a, slant Sees Jacoby

1725
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: thomas's waiting for him and pulls. Up But Jacoby thomas

1726
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: is not just a big. Hitter he can play on

1727
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: the back. End he can lurk tremendous on ball. Production

1728
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: six pass, breakups five. Interceptions last, year you got his

1729
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 1: hands on the football eleven times playing. Deep he does

1730
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 1: that because he's really good. Instincts, now he's overly aggressive

1731
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 1: SOMETIMES i think he trusts his instincts too much sometimes

1732
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: and that leads to some blown assignments and some. Mistackles

1733
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: his miss tackle rate is definitely higher than what you

1734
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: want from a, safety and that's why he's a projected

1735
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: fifth round. Pick but if you can kind of coach

1736
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: that out of him and hone his instincts a little,

1737
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: bit he is a missile flying around out, there whether

1738
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: it be in, coverage whether it be making plays with

1739
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage against the, run or like you watch

1740
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: him blow up screens at one, point it's what's the?

1741
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: Word did we've associated with this defense more than anything

1742
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: else that they keep using violent? Violence he is, VIOLENT

1743
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 1: i mean the mentality and you look a little more his.

1744
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: Background he looks up To Sean. Taylor he talked To

1745
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: Ray lewis before games like he's got and he if

1746
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: you go watch the, injury he's not all excited talking about.

1747
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 1: This he's just sitting there Like i'll hit people till

1748
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: they don't want to be hit, Anymore like it's just

1749
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: ingrained in. THEM i love that the mentality is, there

1750
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: playmaking abilities. There, yeah he's got a hone of skills

1751
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: a little. Bit he's probably a third safety for his

1752
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: first year or two will he figures that. OUT i

1753
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 1: don't think's somebody that can play eighty ninety percent of

1754
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 1: the time right, away but they don't need him to

1755
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: do that right. Away they need a safety, really a

1756
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: guy that's more of a long term option can be

1757
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: a depth player right. AWAY i really Liked Kobe. Thomas

1758
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: he's a ton of fun and it's my whole. THING

1759
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: i wanted them to had playmakers on. Defense he's more

1760
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,560
Speaker 1: of a playmaker than he is a safe. Player But

1761
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: i'm okay with. That and the violent element is just it.

1762
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: Again if you go on to watch there's one play

1763
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: it's On twitter where here it is right. Here Carnel

1764
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: tait is like visibly afraid of.

1765
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 3: Him SO i want to hear some of the THINGS

1766
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: i wrote down about. Him, Sure so this is in

1767
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: my pros category and my, spreadsheet Which i'm hoping by

1768
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: at least like a week before the DRAFT i can

1769
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 3: share with.

1770
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: Everybody Dane Brugler's beast has coming Out april. Eight that's

1771
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 1: what you gotta.

1772
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 3: Beat, YEAH i don't know If i'm going to beat. It,

1773
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 3: HONESTLY i have like a lot of offensive lineman to

1774
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 3: watch over the next couple of. Days like twenty, probably

1775
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: BUT i wrote, downhill, urgent, violent. Striker yeah. Right so

1776
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 3: those are just some of the buzzwords or keywords THAT

1777
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 3: i have in. HERE i think WHAT i like a

1778
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 3: lot about him. TOO i don't know if he's a

1779
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: deep part of the field, Player LIKE i don't know

1780
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 3: if he's like a true free safety or a guy

1781
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 3: that's going to be able to play over the. Top

1782
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 3: but he's really good in like short, zones whether they're, yeah,

1783
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 3: robbers hook. Curls, obviously like when you play the hook,

1784
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: zone which is the middle of the field zone as

1785
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 3: a safety or a, linebacker you carry a lot of

1786
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 3: verticals from the other side of the formation because when

1787
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: they have an earn three by, one it becomes like

1788
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 3: almost a match with the third receiver on the three receiver.

1789
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: Side so like if that guy runs like a crosser

1790
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 3: or something like, that then it's that person's job to

1791
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 3: carry that player. VERTICAL i think he can do all

1792
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: those types of. THINGS i think he can play. ROBBER

1793
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 3: i think he can play down in the. BOX i

1794
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: think that he wants to play down in the, Box

1795
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 3: like when he's up, top he fills and it gets

1796
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 3: his hat in the box against the run extremely. QUICKLY

1797
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 3: i just think he's a little bit stiff slash not

1798
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily have that sideline to sideline range to play

1799
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,680
Speaker 3: him in the deep part of the. Field but if

1800
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 3: you play him, correctly if you put him in the right,

1801
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 3: role he's going to be a really good player in the.

1802
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 3: League like there's no doubt to be The. Patriots and,

1803
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 3: YEAH i think that he's more complimentary To Craig woodson

1804
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 3: And Kevin byern as a third safety than he is

1805
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: a true starter in their system because they want their

1806
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 3: guys to cover so well down the. Field but he

1807
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 3: could be somebody that, is you, know a really good

1808
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 3: box nickels safety for them for a really long time

1809
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 3: and then maybe they just find somebody else to play

1810
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 3: With woodson in the deep part of the.

1811
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: Field, yeah that's kind of my. Idea is he kind

1812
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: of sort of becomes a matchup.

1813
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 3: Player, Yeah, okay You Keon crawford From, auburn the pass

1814
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 3: rusher From.

1815
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: Auburn this, guy uh so the Other auburn. Guy we're

1816
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: talking about the other.

1817
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: Guy Because i'm not the Biggest Keldrick falk. Guy i'm

1818
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: not gonna.

1819
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: LIE i don't know if it's BECAUSE i haven't watched

1820
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: him BECAUSE i don't think he's gonna fall to him

1821
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: OR i didn't like WHAT i. Saw, YEAH i can't

1822
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: get excited about him.

1823
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 3: STIFF i don't like guys that are super stiff unless

1824
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna play them as like a true hand in

1825
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 3: the dirt end like The patriots used to, do and

1826
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 3: they're you, know like in a three FOUR I i

1827
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 3: just don't love. HIM i don't love him outside the.

1828
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 3: Tackle crawford is just that guy's explosiveness is like an

1829
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 3: All capitol, letters, right like just off the, ball great

1830
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: bad and inside out with pure. Speed so like you

1831
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 3: have to set him inside. Out he's gonna win around

1832
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 3: the corner if you over said to him, outside he's

1833
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: gonna win. Inside he's just got, speed, speed, speed great.

1834
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: BEND i think there's some love for him with The

1835
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: patriots as. WELL i think that There's he's one of

1836
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: those guys THAT i kind of came to a little

1837
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 3: bit later in this edge class because there's so many

1838
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 3: of these players AND i was, like why isn't this

1839
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: guy in this like you, know third round cluster with

1840
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: all these other you know. Dudes, yeah he should be At. Auburn,

1841
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 3: hey they call it the buck roll At, auburn and

1842
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 3: it's a very labor intensive. Role like there's a lot

1843
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 3: you have to. Cover you have to be able to,

1844
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: drop you have to be able to rush off the,

1845
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: edge you have to be able to stop the. Run

1846
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 3: you play a lot of overhang on the strong, side

1847
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: so you're forcing runs back to the, inside but you're

1848
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: also you, know having to rush the passer and drop into.

1849
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: Coverage it's, probably you, know one of their more complex

1850
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 3: roles on their. Defense and he played it last year

1851
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 3: and played it at a pretty high. Level so he can,

1852
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: cover he can drop off the line of scrimmage and,

1853
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,680
Speaker 3: coverage he can play a little bit further out in.

1854
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: Space but the most important thing is that speed and

1855
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 3: bend off the. Edge AND i don't know If i'm

1856
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: going to be right about, this BUT i think that

1857
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 3: they're gonna want guys with peer speed off the. Edge

1858
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 3: LIKE i think that that's going to, be you, know

1859
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:22,360
Speaker 3: The Harold injury, model, Right AND i think that that's

1860
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 3: going to be the mold that they go. Towards AND

1861
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 3: i Think crawford AND i know there's a lot of

1862
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 3: love for like Mile Kay lawrence, Too like you know

1863
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 3: those types of, Guys lawrence is probably like top, fifty

1864
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 3: maybe even. Higher, yeah and then you Know crawford's kind

1865
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: of like the day to guy in that sort of.

1866
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 3: Mold the other one THAT i had quickly on the

1867
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 3: recency bias. List we were talking about this before the.

1868
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 3: Show Marlin client From, michigan the tight End german. Born

1869
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 3: so that would be good for us because we that's

1870
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 3: a home market for. Us but most importantly With Marlin

1871
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 3: client for six to one in the forty yard, dash

1872
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: a really good speed to run the, seam really good on.

1873
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 3: CROSSING i know it Was New, mexico So i'm gonna

1874
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 3: put that caveat on. It but he had a really

1875
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 3: strong performance against them in the opener last year For,

1876
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: michigan WHERE i think he had almost one hundred receiving

1877
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: yards in the. Game it was just kind of EVERYWHERE i.

1878
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: THINK i you, know his blocking technique is pass catching

1879
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 3: all that needs some work because he's, raw he's new

1880
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: to the, sport but he gives great effort in the run.

1881
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 3: Game he's got, toughness he's got, physicality he's got straight line.

1882
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 3: Speed he just is a ball of clay right. Now

1883
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 3: that needs some.

1884
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: Molding, yeah a ton of awesome. Tools six, six two

1885
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: fifty ran the four to six one like you talked

1886
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: about thirty six ins. Vertical you just got to learn the. Game,

1887
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: yeah got to learn the. Game came into it. Late

1888
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: but if you're gonna take a flyer on A day

1889
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: three tight end like he can be coached, Up there's

1890
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: there's a lot there to work. With there aren't going

1891
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 1: to be many things physically he can't. Do it's just

1892
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 1: about getting his technique to the point where he's able

1893
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: to do. Him BUT i like. Him i'm with. YOU

1894
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 1: i wouldn't be mad if they took. Him, okay let's

1895
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: do this reset on.

1896
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: Defense it's. OKAY i didn't expect this to take as

1897
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: long as on this as the. Offense this is not as,

1898
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: exciting all, RIGHT i like, defense BUT i. Understand.

1899
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Uh and then what we're doing the special teams reset

1900
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: a good.

1901
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: Question next?

1902
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: Week we actually need to do. That there's relevance. There

1903
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 1: punter is the only relevant kick.

1904
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 3: Returner, okay, fine but like, returners like you're gonna draft

1905
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 3: that player to play something. Else the second is going

1906
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 3: to be you, Watch, yeah you want To browns to

1907
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: play returner just to Return barry On.

1908
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: Brown maybe it was a little bit to tap into

1909
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: was a. Receiver, okay all, Right, adam let's go through

1910
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: this strengthens the case for other.

1911
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 3: Plays we got thirty minutes to go through, this so

1912
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: let's do. It let's start with, edge biggest need on the,

1913
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 3: BOARD i think for The, PATRIOTS i think you can

1914
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 3: make that case pretty. Easily Draymont, Jones Harold, Landry Elijah,

1915
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: Pronder Brandon, Swinton Jesse, lukeda And Amari, gaynor who is

1916
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 3: At North carolina With drake is still on the roster as.

1917
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 3: WELL i think the two questions THAT i have with

1918
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 3: itedge right now for The. Patriots number, one what is

1919
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 3: their type of edge look? LIKE i just said. THAT

1920
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 3: I i think it's going to be the speed two

1921
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 3: fifty two fifty five kind of. GUY i don't anticipate,

1922
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: it you, KNOW i know that there's a lot of

1923
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 3: mocks out. There Kendrick, Falk Zion, young you know some

1924
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: of these bigger edge rushers that you know are to

1925
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 3: sixty five. PLUS i don't think that's gonna be their.

1926
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 7: Thing.

1927
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 3: Now they did just Sign, jones who's to sixty to

1928
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 3: sixty five BUT i feel like if they're gonna draft,

1929
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 3: SOMEBODY i Think Carold landry's kind of like their, archetype,

1930
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 3: right that's their dream sort Of mold is a guy Like.

1931
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: Landry but what do you? Think are you with me

1932
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 3: on that or do you think that it's?

1933
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: DIFFERENT i, MEAN i think it's tough because we're just

1934
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: one year in and on one, hand we have one

1935
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: year to go off, Of like these are the kind

1936
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: of players they, want but they do so much last.

1937
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Year it's was is there another archetype With landry they

1938
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: want to have in their defense that they couldn't ad last?

1939
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: Year and do they want to add somebody who's going

1940
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: to be more sturdy against the run on the edge

1941
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: that they just didn't have a chance to. Add but,

1942
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: no if they're trying to upgrade the pass, rush it's

1943
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 1: gonna be players Like Carol. Landry maybe a little bit

1944
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: bigger to help alleviate some of those, THINGS i, guess

1945
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: but they are ant to have like two hundred and

1946
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: eighty pound you, know hand in the dirt. Guys so

1947
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: tried that With Kean.

1948
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 3: White did not work?

1949
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Right, No So i'm with you on that second facilitation

1950
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: question on the, edge.

1951
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: Who are going to be the better options relative to the, board,

1952
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 3: right it's the whole value of the board, thing the

1953
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 3: edges at thirty one or the edges at sixty.

1954
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: FIVE i think there's a real case at sixty, three

1955
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: especially if you move, up like if you talk about the,

1956
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: fifties they're just probably gonna miss that second. Run but,

1957
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: Again lawrence Akis moore From, MICHIGAN i don't think the

1958
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 1: drop off is that significant versus the drop off the

1959
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: drop off at tackles. MASSIVE i, mean, like if you

1960
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: don't take the tackle thirty, one you're probably waiting till ninety.

1961
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: Five at that. POINT i don't think there really is

1962
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: anybody at sixty. Three you know, what. Receiver it's definitely

1963
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 1: a significant drop off from thirty one to sixty, three absolutely.

1964
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 1: So but there is a drop. Off and if they

1965
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: want to get a lynch pin edge rusher LIKE i

1966
01:28:58,439 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: like some of those guys one day, two but they're

1967
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 1: there is a, Difference, yep there is a. Difference, Sure

1968
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: so that's kind of the big question to. Me it's

1969
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: also like do they double?

1970
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 2: Up?

1971
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,640
Speaker 1: Right if you're gonna double, up maybe say, okay we're

1972
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 1: gonna go second round and third, round so we use

1973
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: our first round pick on something up if you're gonna

1974
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: but maybe it's first round and like fourth round or fifth, round,

1975
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: right that kind of. Thing so they can approach it

1976
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: a number of different, ways but they definitely need at

1977
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 1: least one, guy maybe. TWO i think they can get

1978
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: by with one. Too your feeling really. Good some of

1979
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: that is like where do you think that With Braiden?

1980
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Swinton do you think they're gonna really keep working On

1981
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: Braiden swinton and developing.

1982
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 3: HIM i look at it that they probably will draft, one,

1983
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 3: yeah because they Have jones And, landry and THEN i

1984
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 3: think you have to really Like.

1985
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,560
Speaker 1: Ponder, No ponder to, me like he's gonna make the

1986
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: team and he's he's don.

1987
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 3: And like if you don't have hopes For, ponder and

1988
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 3: then the question for me to want to leave a

1989
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 3: door a jar For Braden swinton to step, Through, well

1990
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 3: that's Where i'm at if they're gonna double, up, Right,

1991
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah Braiden swinston was a fifth round pick last. Year

1992
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same.

1993
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: Thing if you have conviction that somebody's better Than Braiden,

1994
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: swinton you take. Him but that means like you're willing

1995
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: to move. On you're you, Know Braiden swinson wasn't one and,

1996
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: done and maybe that's how they. Feel maybe they got

1997
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 1: him in here last year and, okay you, know we

1998
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: saw what there, is but we feel like we need

1999
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: some more to work, with and like that could certainly be.

2000
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: SOMETHING i don't love the idea of using a fifth

2001
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: round pick on another project player when, like if he's

2002
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: just gonna give you a Braidon swinton's, giving you just

2003
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: work With Braiden, swinton draft somebody a draft different, position,

2004
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: Right SO.

2005
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 3: I, think to, ME i actually like the options at

2006
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 3: sixty three a little bit, better not off of, talent.

2007
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: But who's your guy in that?

2008
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 3: RANGE i really Like, Yeah akus. TOO i really Like

2009
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 3: Derek moore a lot as. Well i'm now in On.

2010
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 3: CRAWFORD i don't. Know sixty three is a little might

2011
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 3: be a little bit, high but you don't know if

2012
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: you're gonna get him at.

2013
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: Night, no the sixty three, guys to, ME i don't

2014
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 1: Think lawrence in that. Range lawrence is a trade back

2015
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: in the FIRST i don't even know what you're trading

2016
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: off for. Him, yeah to, me sixty three Is acus More.

2017
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 3: SUTTON i am a little bit interested to see where

2018
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 3: Our Mason thomas ends up falling to do you think

2019
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in On? THOMAS i don't. Know he

2020
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 3: he hasn't had a great pre draft. Process i'm not

2021
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 3: saying anything to do with off the field or anything like,

2022
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 3: that but he didn't test. Great he kind of was

2023
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 3: a little bit stiffer through some of the field work

2024
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 3: at the. Combine uh it wasn't this uh pure athlete

2025
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 3: that shows up on tape with the hustle and the

2026
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 3: motor that shows up on. FILM i thought that the

2027
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 3: movement's skills were a little. Underwhelming uh so maybe that

2028
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 3: falls a little. Bit BUT i don't know if all

2029
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 3: the way to sixty. Three but if you're asking me like,

2030
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 3: what because it's always a you, know we do this

2031
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 3: all the, time it's the.

2032
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Right thomas Akis Moore, Sutton, Thomas, wait, sorry say that,

2033
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Again Thomas Akis Moore. Sutton that's the worder they are

2034
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: on the big.

2035
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 3: BOARD i would probably Go thomas akus. More so your

2036
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,480
Speaker 3: consensus of, YEAH i probably would Go akis.

2037
01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 1: More Thomas.

2038
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 3: SUTTON i could be convinced that to Flip actus And, thomas.

2039
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,040
Speaker 1: He's just He, again it. Goes Maybe i'm reading too into,

2040
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: it but they keep saying the word he's so. Violent,

2041
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 1: yeah he's you can see the wrestling. Back the motor

2042
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: doesn't stop and he's trying to run through people on every.

2043
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: Play and you kind of the little bit here about

2044
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: him off that he's the same way to wait, room

2045
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 1: he's the same way to. Film like the guy just doesn't,

2046
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: stop like he just he's always trying to get. Better

2047
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: he's always working through the, challenge pushing the next. Thing

2048
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 1: that just feels like they're kind of. Guy so at

2049
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: thirty one at, Receiver, yeah you're looking at and this

2050
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: is hopefully looking at, Right Denzel, Boston Casey, Concepsio Omar Cooper.

2051
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 1: JR i don't think all three of them are. THERE

2052
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 1: i don't think none of them three are going to be.

2053
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 3: There i'm just talking about the drop, offs, Right so

2054
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: that group kind of you, know let's just leave it

2055
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: at that for. Now maybe they're as high on brassehole

2056
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: AS i. AM i DON'T i don't.

2057
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:42,560
Speaker 4: Know.

2058
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh then at tackle it's two, guys, right It's

2059
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 3: miller and then.

2060
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:49,680
Speaker 1: And then you're going right down in ninety five and

2061
01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,639
Speaker 1: then absolute there is no so what are the odds

2062
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you think they Think tiernan Or drunker can play.

2063
01:32:55,000 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 3: TACKLE i would say that it's probably more likely they

2064
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 3: Think tiernan can play tackle because he's so Much he's a.

2065
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Bet if we're gonna have this conversation that Would drunker

2066
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:06,680
Speaker 1: is just so.

2067
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: CLUNKY i JUST i can't see him being able to

2068
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 3: move well enough to.

2069
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: So in, theory if there is a tackle for them sixty,

2070
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 1: three it would Be.

2071
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,560
Speaker 3: Tiernan, yeah they could be The Indianapolis colts who have

2072
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 3: two tackles with a sub thirty three inch arms starting for,

2073
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 3: THEM i, think, Right raymond And Brandon. SMITH i don't

2074
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 3: know If smith's still. There raymonds, DEFINITELY i don't.

2075
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: Know but the, point just if we're gonna have the, conversation,

2076
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: like that's the drop, Off so the drop of it

2077
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: tackle we can accept drops off a. Cliff, yeah a

2078
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver from The Boston Cooper casey. Concept you're gonna

2079
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: have to Draft brazzle because he's not making it to sixty,

2080
01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Three so you're gonna have to draft them somewhere in.

2081
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 3: There Chris bell to The Skylar, bells The Ted, hurst

2082
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: you know Those Bryce. Lance that's a pretty SIGNIFICANT i

2083
01:33:55,479 --> 01:33:58,959
Speaker 3: think that's a much bigger drop off. Too, yes absolutely

2084
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 3: so THAT i think is really part of that conversation as.

2085
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 3: Well going on to defensive, tackle here into your Guys Milton,

2086
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 3: Williams christian Barmoer Corey dirt And Joshua, Farmer Leonard, Taylor

2087
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 3: Jeremiah farms And Eric gregory.

2088
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: Still on the.

2089
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 3: Roster good room obviously when you Have Milton Christian, barmore

2090
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 3: it's a good. Room Corey dirt And i'm excited ABOUT

2091
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 3: i think they found to somebody With dirten AND i

2092
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 3: Think Joshua farmer deserves some. More you, Know leash.

2093
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: Would Say Leonard williams. TOO i Want Leonard williams to

2094
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,920
Speaker 1: get a SHOT lt three on this list as.

2095
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 3: Well the one the one QUESTION i have with The

2096
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 3: detackle group is Replacing tonga and do they need to

2097
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 3: Replace tonga With? Tonga like do they need a so.

2098
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: This is this IS i would like to see them

2099
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: at a true nose tackle and it's a great tackle.

2100
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: Club it doesn't have to be a big. Investment But

2101
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: evan Big citrus justify for. Me, please how DO i

2102
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: make this? Argument i'm. TRYING i, can't but he's such

2103
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 1: a fun. Player and he's so. Good how do they justify?

2104
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 1: That how does? It can they Take Dominice gorrange at sixty? Three,

2105
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: no they could take him at ninety.

2106
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 3: Five he's not gonna be.

2107
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: There at ninety.

2108
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 3: FIVE i don't. Know if YOU i don't, know he's

2109
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 3: not gonna Be, no if.

2110
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 1: You want the guy in ninety. Five there's two GUYS

2111
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: i like, There Darnell jackson From Florida, state but he's

2112
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 1: not even really a nose tackle like he's listed at

2113
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: three twenty he carries three.

2114
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 3: Twenty, YEAH i think he was. Limber he actually laid

2115
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: waiting at three fifteen at the.

2116
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: Time AND i like, him but he's not got like

2117
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 1: thirty five inch, arms, Right he's all, limbs like he's

2118
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: not the, size like he's not that.

2119
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Wide.

2120
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: Yeah the other one is another one of my favorite,

2121
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: nicknames just happens to be the Godfa.

2122
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 3: Godfather we're going to go there six foot three.

2123
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Forty, NOW i do wonder And i'll be interested to

2124
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: see when we get the beast and when we get

2125
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: The bob McGinn's stuff with the blood cuts, right because if,

2126
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: so he had some blood clot. Issues it's kept him

2127
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 1: off field twenty. Four, yeah The patriots have dealt with

2128
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 1: that twice in the last ten years here With David

2129
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: andrews And Christian. Barbell so, well, yeah you, know they

2130
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: might look at that and, say, hey it's a situation

2131
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,040
Speaker 1: that's more manageable us because we know what to look.

2132
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: For they may also look at it and, say we've

2133
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 1: been dealing with, this we don't want to deal with it.

2134
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: Again but like, now he's just a run. Stopper, yes,

2135
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: again six foot three, forty he's an old school two,

2136
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: gapper but a spoiler. ALERT i took The godfather and

2137
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 1: my mock draft where ninety SIX i took. Him, LATER

2138
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: i took him at a one thirty. One maybe because

2139
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, off but not.

2140
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: BAD i think the blood clots are going to be anythink,

2141
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 3: okay not BECAUSE i think that there's STILL i just

2142
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 3: medically see something teams look. At he's going to have

2143
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 3: a medical flag for some. Teams, yeah he is only

2144
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 3: a run player like, you or he's not offering you

2145
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 3: anything as a.

2146
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Passer so good at it, though he's very very good at.

2147
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 3: It but just off the history of the.

2148
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Draft, no he is the kind of guy that traditionally

2149
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: falls that is fair if you're only going to play first,

2150
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 1: down goal, line short yarded.

2151
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 3: Situations and this would be the one little THING i

2152
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 3: would say About Big citrus THAT i think that he

2153
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 3: could fall to ninety. Five he's those guys are situational

2154
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,479
Speaker 3: players in the. League you don't Think citrus has a

2155
01:36:58,600 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 3: little bit of.

2156
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: That LIKE i think he has a little bitest kind

2157
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: of tong, though like that little bit of where you're

2158
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: playing in the intermediate. Downs and he's not going to be.

2159
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 3: Out of, place, absolutely BUT i don't think that that's

2160
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 3: that's still what a forty five.

2161
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: Player here's the, city the way tongs market kind of

2162
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: exploding free. Agency how many teams are looking for his copycat?

2163
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: League they just made The, supergame but let me forgot

2164
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 1: how their Counter, okay in this. Draft, yeah there's a

2165
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: lot of these guys at the top. Too that Is

2166
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: kaden McDonald Lee hunter, thinks you know those types of.

2167
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 1: Players so only so many teams are going to be

2168
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:35,639
Speaker 1: in the market for nose, tackle so that it goes

2169
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 1: from here to. Here then now there are situational, players

2170
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,759
Speaker 1: it goes to, here and now he has a blood

2171
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: clot history goes to, there, Right so like.

2172
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 3: There's only going to be a.

2173
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: HINT i thought were talking about either.

2174
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 3: ONE i Think orange doesn't have the, medicals BUT i

2175
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:49,719
Speaker 3: don't think he GETS i don't think he gets ninety.

2176
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Five he gets to ninety, Five i'm gonna upset that

2177
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: in trade up for. HIM i think there are just.

2178
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 3: Are situations where these types of, guys because of the

2179
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 3: style of player that they are, there there's gonna be

2180
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 3: ninety teams are going to look at At Big citrus

2181
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: and The godfather as we're not playing these guys on third.

2182
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 1: Day would you would you Take Dominic gornge in ninety

2183
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 1: five for The? Patriots, yeah i'd would you like trade

2184
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,720
Speaker 1: up for him in like the? Eighties? Now, no even

2185
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: if it's, small one of those six round?

2186
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 3: Picks, okay, fine, okay if you if you're, Gonna i'm

2187
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 3: all for getting rid of the six round. Pick, yeah

2188
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 3: you know, That i'll tell trade all four of.

2189
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: THEM i just wonder if they're gonna just keep trying

2190
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:27,000
Speaker 1: to add these like small athletic defensive tackles Like Zane

2191
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: durant And Cayden proctor And Caleb. Hilip proctor is a

2192
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: hell of a. Player that guy is awesome he's getting

2193
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: because of small. SCHOOL i see him getting some Like

2194
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: milton william, comps yeah uh.

2195
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 3: He it tracks LIKE i. DIDN'T i Thought Zane durant

2196
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 3: was a little bit. UNDERWHELMING i can see. It like

2197
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: obviously with the athleticism and all that, Stuff.

2198
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Caleb proctor. Deserves he like a sneaky top one hundred pick, Easily,

2199
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:55,120
Speaker 1: okay a big.

2200
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 3: BOARDER i think he's way higher in real. LIFE i,

2201
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 3: mean that guy can really rush the.

2202
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 1: PASSER i Want Dominic. GORAN i want them to a nose.

2203
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: TACKLE i Want Dominic. Quorn that's probably not gonna. Happen

2204
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:06,639
Speaker 1: if they Took Dante corleone with one of those fourth round.

2205
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 1: PICKS i think a lot of people would be annoyed by.

2206
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: It i'd be okay with.

2207
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 7: It.

2208
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah so Like Timmy keenan From alabama's, like that's another

2209
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 3: one if you want to draft, him and maybe.

2210
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,160
Speaker 1: He's a real true nose. Tackle doesn't.

2211
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 3: Move it's like four hundred. POUNDS i don't think he

2212
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,840
Speaker 3: will weighed in on, that but like looking at, HIM

2213
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 3: i think he. Was he weighed in at three twenty,

2214
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 3: seven BUT i think he's.

2215
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,599
Speaker 1: Bigger he doesn't, move but you're not moving Him orange

2216
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: waiting at three forty and he moves like. That CAN

2217
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: i CAN i get a little? Nuts oh, god is

2218
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: there a little tens tiny Bit vince Will.

2219
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 3: FORK i thought you were gonna save you To.

2220
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Vea, no.

2221
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 13: You're.

2222
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Not, like if he maxes, out you're. Nuts if he maxes,

2223
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: out you're.

2224
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 3: Nuts but Even, vince like you, know talking about the

2225
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 3: nose tackles, Falling vince fell because he was a.

2226
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 1: Nose tackle that's. True that was twenty years. Ago, yeah they.

2227
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: Fall who's your comp For Dominic? CORAN i don't.

2228
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 3: Know that's a good.

2229
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: One as What i'm, saying there's not many guys like,

2230
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:02,519
Speaker 1: that so it's hard to camp. Them they don't want

2231
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: to Use.

2232
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 3: Vca he's Not veya, like he's, not but that that's

2233
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 3: the type of, Player, like there's not that many guys.

2234
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 1: That that's What i'm. Saying it's hard to. Do it's

2235
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,680
Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds and he's moving like. That,

2236
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 1: yeah well he was four hundred something in high.

2237
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i believe. It it's big freaking. Dude and he's short,

2238
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 3: too so he's kind of like just wide and. Stubby

2239
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 3: he's just he's a big, guy.

2240
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 1: But that's how that's how you get these big guys

2241
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: that can move because they you, know he was four

2242
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 1: hundred high, school so you know he's playing at three,

2243
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 1: forty playing at sixty pounds, later lighter than he used,

2244
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:34,560
Speaker 1: to so naturally he's gonna like feel quicker on his,

2245
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: feet all.

2246
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 3: Right inside, Linebackers, Yeah, Splaine Ellis, Mapu Chad, muma kJ,

2247
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 3: Britt Otis. REES i would assume that kJ britt is

2248
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 3: here to take some of the special team snaps That

2249
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 3: zbi And gibbons left, behind so they kind of replaced

2250
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 3: maybe the kicking game production from those guys with. Him,

2251
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,000
Speaker 3: OBVIOUSLY i think it's KIND i don't even know if

2252
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 3: sneaky's the right word.

2253
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: Anymore this is kind of a. Need it's it's the

2254
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: same as tight. End, yeah you probably want to get

2255
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 1: a second guy next To, spelane ideally a coverage, player

2256
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: but it's are you drafting somebody with a lower ceiling

2257
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 1: who maybe you're trying to highlight certain abilities or traits

2258
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: and just get the second, guy or is it this

2259
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: guy's going to start off as the second guy and

2260
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 1: then eventually take over For. Splaine but that's a bigger.

2261
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: Investment so just to put names to.

2262
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 3: It, Right so who's Your My my facilitation question was

2263
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 3: just who's your favorite in the?

2264
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: Draft, yes your Favorite Jez, well your favorite linebacker for The,

2265
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 1: patriots and the draft of Jakergez, okay BUT i think

2266
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: it's too high for the. Draft jacob Bred i wouldn't

2267
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: be the most surprised person in the world if they

2268
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:45,559
Speaker 1: took him at Thirty who would surprise you? More kaden

2269
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: McDonald Or Jacob rodriguez at thirty? One kate and McDonald, yeah, Correct,

2270
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: yeah you know if we go a little. Later so

2271
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 1: the thing is, like if you Draft Jacob, driguez he's

2272
01:41:55,360 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 1: here to eventually replace, splay, yes whereas you Know Kyle,

2273
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 1: Lewis Harold, perkins different, Players Eric gentry FROM Usc Lander

2274
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: barton From. Utah these are pure coverage players that are

2275
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna fill a. Role but you, know When splaine gets

2276
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 1: a little in his contracts, up, LIKE i don't think

2277
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at them and be, like, okay like

2278
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 1: you have the next guy in the. Building, Sure SO i.

2279
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 3: Think that's the Biggest it's just like tight. End like you,

2280
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 3: said that's the hardest part and it's kind of, ACTUALLY

2281
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: i would say a lot like safety. Too are you

2282
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 3: drafting as a complimentary player to what you currently? Have

2283
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 3: are you drafting to replace what you currently? Have and

2284
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 3: those two THINGS i think are.

2285
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: Even replaced fill the, pipeline BECAUSE i don't think you're

2286
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 1: drafting somebody to like that's a nicer way to. Right

2287
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,559
Speaker 1: you're not going to compete With Robert splaine this, year

2288
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: With Hunter henry this, Year so.

2289
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: If you are drafting strictly to punish the pipeline and

2290
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,759
Speaker 3: just also taking into account where.

2291
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: RIGHT i, MEAN rvel Reason sunny styles are, LIKE i

2292
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: don't think do you buy The Isaiah simmons comps for

2293
01:42:57,080 --> 01:42:57,599
Speaker 1: R vel? Rees.

2294
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,680
Speaker 3: NO i think he's a better pass rusher THAN i ever.

2295
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 7: Was.

2296
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 3: Uh Jacob rodriguez And Jack olday are both really fun.

2297
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 3: Players they're gonna go too, High AND i Put Anthony

2298
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: hill in that category as. WELL I i AND I

2299
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 3: i PUT.

2300
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 1: Cj allen's gonna go top. Twenty you think he's gonna

2301
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: go that high or top twenty, Five he's not gonna

2302
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: go where they. Can he's gonna be off the board

2303
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 1: at thirty.

2304
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 3: ONE i kind of liked To Anthony hill better some

2305
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 3: of the, stuff and Then hill makes a lot more.

2306
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: Plays some of the stuff that's come out About allen

2307
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:27,840
Speaker 1: has really convinced, Me like do you know he was

2308
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 1: calling the plays for The georgia. DEFENSE i tell, that

2309
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: but like there were, Times, ayea teams are gonna. Draw

2310
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 1: there were times.

2311
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 3: WHEN i was watching him, though AND i actually watched.

2312
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 3: Him he's one of the guys before the combine THAT

2313
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,000
Speaker 3: i had, studied AND i watched, him AND i was, like, wait,

2314
01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: like who's who AM i supposed to be? Watching like

2315
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 3: he doesn't make a lot of, plays but then when

2316
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,759
Speaker 3: you start to watch him over the course of, Tapes,

2317
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 3: yeah he makes a lot of the dirty. Plays like

2318
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 3: he's a lot of these like, oh he filled that

2319
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 3: gap which forced the running back to bounce to this,

2320
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 3: gap and then this guy made the tackle right, right

2321
01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 3: that sort of.

2322
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 1: Thing WHEREAS I Anthony hill is like a playmaking. Linebacker

2323
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 1: so like he's around the. Bus, Say allen's like the

2324
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: twentieth overall pick on the consensus mock right, NOW i

2325
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: think the dirty work between the ear. Stuff he's an,

2326
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: incredibly incredibly smart. Player he's a coaches, linebacker like some

2327
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: coach is going to go to THE gm and be,

2328
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: like this is the. Guy i'm gonna, like put my

2329
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 1: fist on the, table this is the. Guy SO i

2330
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:21,640
Speaker 1: really Like.

2331
01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 3: Rodriguez and is it Gold Day Gold Gold? GOLD i think,

2332
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah BUT i think. Both it's tough to find a

2333
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 3: spot to draft those, Guys LIKE i Think dirty one

2334
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 3: is really.

2335
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: High but if they move back a little, BIT i

2336
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: guess if they move, BACK i don't think either one

2337
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:36,800
Speaker 1: of them is going to be there still at sixty. Three, no,

2338
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't think they're gonna be in within move

2339
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:39,960
Speaker 1: up range at sixty. Three maybe Gold.

2340
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 3: Day so then you get into like The lewises and

2341
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,800
Speaker 3: The perkinses or different kinds of, players you. Know i'd

2342
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,720
Speaker 3: also put like Kayleab limbs or sort of in.

2343
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: THAT a lot of people like barm Uh So barim.

2344
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 3: To me is a pass rusher though, okay like he's

2345
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 3: an on the ball, Linebacker like he's a stand up

2346
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 3: three four outside. Linebacker the two guys THAT i really like,

2347
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,719
Speaker 3: though if you want to re finished the pipeline For Robert,

2348
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 3: Splaine Aiden fisher and is a, Butcher Bryce butcher From.

2349
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 3: Oregon he's like a, safety isn't he he's a. Linebacker

2350
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 3: he played safety at the beginning of his uh college

2351
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,560
Speaker 3: career At. Oregon he's playing. Linebacker now if you're just

2352
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 3: do you think he's a potential starting, linebacker and, YEAH i. Do,

2353
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 3: okay if you now for these guys are probably fourth round, picks,

2354
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 3: right so first Said. Fisher, Yeah Aiden fisher From indiana

2355
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 3: is really intriguing to me if you're strictly trying to

2356
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 3: draft to be the Next Robert. Spuline, like if you

2357
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,040
Speaker 3: Draft Aiden fisher this year and you Attach Aiden fisher

2358
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 3: To Robert spulaine's, hip, yeah for the next. YEAR i

2359
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 3: think by twenty, eight twenty, seven even, Possibly Aiden fisher

2360
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 3: is ready to be the. Mic ok you, KNOW i

2361
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 3: think he can wear the green. DOT i think he

2362
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 3: did that at For. Indiana uh AND i thought that

2363
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 3: he moved a lot better than some of the knocks

2364
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 3: on him. Suggests like some people think he's a terrible.

2365
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 3: ATHLETE i think he's a fine enough athlete to play,

2366
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 3: Linebacker mike linebacker. Specifically so those are the guys THAT

2367
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:00,800
Speaker 3: i would look at if like you're really trying to

2368
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 3: do what you were trying to do at tight end

2369
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 3: and right tackle and kind of what.

2370
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: If you're just trying to find a coverage, linebacker and,

2371
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: hey this guy's gonna kind of be an upgrade Over

2372
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 1: Christian Ellis and that's that.

2373
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Probably, Perkins, okay BUT i Like Kyle lewis.

2374
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Too, YEAH i mean you got To takekylo's top one.

2375
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 1: Hundred how About Justin. JEFFERSON i haven't watched him. Yet,

2376
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 1: okay that's that's, DEEP i. Know but his Name's Justin,

2377
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 1: Jefferson and that's, like you're, all is there a prospect you've?

2378
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: Studied like he's like one one on your all time

2379
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 1: big board since you've been doing this.

2380
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 3: Right, Probably AND i never understood Why Justin jefferson. Was

2381
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: was he like twenty two overall in that draft?

2382
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Somewhere LIKE i was like A bigs. Pick this makes no. Sense,

2383
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: well you got Another Justin jefferson to, watch all.

2384
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 3: Right Corners Christian, Zales Carlton, Davis Marcus, Jones Chucky, Trees Charles,

2385
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 3: Woods Kendo, Vidor Kobe, Minor Brendan. Crossley AND i put

2386
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,559
Speaker 3: this guy last BECAUSE i feel like he's a forgotten.

2387
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 3: Soul marcella's, dial who was having a nice training camp last,

2388
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 3: year blew at his knee. RIGHT i, mean he's a.

2389
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 1: Core special teams player for.

2390
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 3: Them in twenty it was like competing for snaps at,

2391
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 3: corner you, know Behind Marcus jones And davis And. Gonzo

2392
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:11,640
Speaker 3: he's still in the.

2393
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:12,840
Speaker 1: Mix to, me he's still in the mix me.

2394
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,680
Speaker 3: TOO i put him in bold BECAUSE i wanted to

2395
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 3: make sure THAT i don't forget About marcella's, Dial LIKE

2396
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:23,600
Speaker 3: i Think marcell's dial could contribute to this. Team question facilitation,

2397
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:27,679
Speaker 3: question how sneaky of a need is or isn't, cornerback

2398
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i feel like this is the one that we

2399
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 3: get a lot of, calls we get a lot of,

2400
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 3: emails sneaky, needs sneaky? Need is it a sneaky?

2401
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 1: Need so when everybody was, saying like two months, ago

2402
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: you know what's a sneaky, need tight end and it

2403
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: wasn't sneaky because everybody was saying, IT i kept saying

2404
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 1: it was Corner, Yeah AND i think it's Become and

2405
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: here's the. Thing on the, surface it's not a. Need

2406
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: you still Have Christian, Zalez Carlton, Davis Marcus. Jones that's

2407
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: a really good group that's coming, back but especially on the,

2408
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Boundary like to your, point dial can play the slot

2409
01:47:58,400 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna be here on special. Teams you

2410
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: have depth. THERE i wasn't crazy About Craig woods last.

2411
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 3: Year he was.

2412
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 1: Fine Charles. Woods, sorry, CLEARLY i think you can do

2413
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: better as a third boundary, corner which kind of is

2414
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,720
Speaker 1: an important, role Especially Carlton davis's injury. History but the

2415
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: bigger picture thing, is assuming they Pay Christian, Gonzalez Carlton

2416
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 1: davis is going into the final year of guaranteed money

2417
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 1: on his. Contract are they going to pay two boundary

2418
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: corners big money With Marcus jones also on a contract

2419
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: like a real. Contract? Yeah or is that a Spot

2420
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 1: they're gonna have your mark for somebody on a rookie.

2421
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 1: Deal and by the, way for everybody, saying, well that's

2422
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: assuming the pagansals they don't Pay. Gonzalz it's a billion

2423
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 1: percent of. Need it probably comes their biggest. Need so

2424
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna odds are they're gonna need a starting boundary

2425
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: corner in twenty? Seven, yes this is a A you,

2426
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:47,560
Speaker 1: know if you can get that guy this year and

2427
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 1: he is that third backup boundary now learns and then

2428
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 1: you just slott him into the spot next. Year that

2429
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,640
Speaker 1: prevents you from being backed into a corner where you

2430
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: have to take a corner higher than you want in

2431
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 1: next year's, offseason whether it's payingbody would probably be in the, draft.

2432
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: Whatever SO i hear what your center is a big

2433
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 1: time need for.

2434
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 3: ME i agree with you. Wholeheartedly.

2435
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, however just to Play devil's, advocate you want to

2436
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,760
Speaker 1: do this at right, tackle, yeah you want to do

2437
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:14,479
Speaker 1: this at tight end.

2438
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 3: YEAH i think you want to do this at linebacker.

2439
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 3: Yep and then you probably want to do this at corner,

2440
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 3: okay and at safety so and at. Safety so that's five,

2441
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 3: positions AND i know that they have five picks within

2442
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 3: the first four. Rounds you could theoretically do it where

2443
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 3: you're drafting a, tackle tight, end, linebacker, safety, Corner, yeah

2444
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 3: and say that you did, it but that doesn't mean

2445
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 3: you did it so, right all? Right IF i had

2446
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:43,320
Speaker 3: a rank those, yes right tackles obviously number one first and.

2447
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Foremost, Yeah i'd probably be between tight end and corner for.

2448
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: Second safety and not is worried. About and part of

2449
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: that is this. CLASS i think you get a safety.

2450
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,639
Speaker 1: LATER i think there's generally good safeties in the. Draft

2451
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: college is doing a pretty good job of putting them. Out,

2452
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: yeah and then what was the fifth one linebacker? Off,

2453
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 1: NO i, said, oh, YEAH i Think Chris nell is

2454
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 1: a fine. PLAYER i actually don't kJ brick can maybe.

2455
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 1: Play you can be at least good for the depth.

2456
01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 1: There and, look it's not to say ideally you would

2457
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:15,920
Speaker 1: have no needs going in an. Offseason you could just

2458
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 1: have your, pick but like they're gonna have one or

2459
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,840
Speaker 1: two needs next. Year that's gonna be every. Year so

2460
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 1: what would you rather be a need, linebacker, corner? CORNER

2461
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: i think that the issue THAT i would rather have

2462
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: corner left.

2463
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: UNFILLED i would rather, well they're not gonna have it

2464
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 3: unfilled Because gonza's not going, anywhere, okay But davis might.

2465
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 3: Be but now you're you're looking to acquire at number

2466
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 3: two corner when you have a top three four corner

2467
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 3: in the game on the other.

2468
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 1: Side, YEAH i JUST i think that it's very difficult

2469
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: to check all of those boxes WHERE i there's this

2470
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 1: this draft that we're gonna get to it At saint a,

2471
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: second it's a pipeline. Draft, YEAH i also kind of feel,

2472
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 1: better maybe this is some of. It what do you

2473
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,440
Speaker 1: feel better about a rookie corner or a rookie, linebacker

2474
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: like having to play a somewhat significant role. ROOKIE i don't.

2475
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 3: Know it depends on who gets, hurt like it Is

2476
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 3: gonzo GETTING i don't get good about it.

2477
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: Anything for twenty, Seven like you're either your number two

2478
01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 1: quals AM i drafting the corner in the first, round probably.

2479
01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,439
Speaker 3: Because whoever like slips through the cracks here this year

2480
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,680
Speaker 3: is going to be a top pick next. Year, Right

2481
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 3: so like if you.

2482
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: Don't draft a corner this, year that project Projects this

2483
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 1: is What i'm, saying, right.

2484
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 3: You, know you Know i'm not talking about drafting a

2485
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 3: corner in the sixth or seventh. Round i'm talking, well next,

2486
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 3: year you'd have to take one, high, Right but that

2487
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 3: but you're going to have to take somebody, high.

2488
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 1: RIGHT I i would rather take a shot on a

2489
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: corner this, Year but.

2490
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 3: You also are taking somebody high next year off of

2491
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 3: the assumption that you were officially moving on From Carlton,

2492
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 3: davis which you might be. Doing, yeah but if he

2493
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 3: has a good year and he stays, healthy then you

2494
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 3: might not need to do.

2495
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 1: THAT i guess that's. True that's. True SO i just

2496
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: look at.

2497
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 3: Corner as a place where they. Have they have decent

2498
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 3: depth as it, is AND i obviously have really good

2499
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 3: top end talent that as it, is AND i think

2500
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 3: that that's Why i'm willing to.

2501
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Like i'd still like to see them improve the third boundary,

2502
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: guy and you can do that On day three guys

2503
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: Like massis Or deming's Or dixon Or.

2504
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 3: Marshall but, right, OKAY i just think that there's gonna

2505
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 3: be one position at least that slips through the cracks this.

2506
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 3: Year you can't do it, All And i'd much rather

2507
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 3: worry about corner down the, line especially when you have

2508
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,759
Speaker 3: a trio that's as good as you currently.

2509
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Have i'd rather worry about. LINEBACKERS i just think they're

2510
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: easier to.

2511
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,479
Speaker 3: Get MAYBE i just like the linebackers a little.

2512
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,040
Speaker 1: BIT i liked, well SO i was going to say that.

2513
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 1: TOO i kind of like something, like, AGAIN I Dyalen

2514
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 1: everett would be so cool, here that would be such

2515
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: a good. Fit YET i can play except apparently against

2516
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: the receivers we.

2517
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:45,439
Speaker 3: Like oh so like against the good, players, uh the

2518
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 3: fair the last one, Safety, Yeah Kevin, Bayer Craig, Woodson Dell,

2519
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 3: Pettis Mike, Brown John Saunders Brandon schooler if you want

2520
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,320
Speaker 3: to put him in. Here, this to me is the

2521
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 3: biggest question of the entire, draft outside to The Aj

2522
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 3: brown of it. All for The, patriots are you drafting

2523
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: safety for an immediate contributor or are you drafting safety

2524
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:12,640
Speaker 3: for future? Starter fits the profile of their? SAFETY i

2525
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 3: wrote it in, parentheses immediate, contributor you, know big, nickel,

2526
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 3: Right like you're drafting a guy to be the big

2527
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:22,000
Speaker 3: nickel box safety that's complimentary To Kevin byard And Craig.

2528
01:53:22,040 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 3: Woodson or are you drafting a guy that's going to

2529
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: start next To Craig woodson Once buyered is ages?

2530
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 13: Out?

2531
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, see this is the one for, me AND i

2532
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,479
Speaker 1: like the safety class where and some of it is

2533
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 1: like they're this if you're just drafting a third AND

2534
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: i want them to do more three safety. Stuff but

2535
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 1: you're also gonna do a lot of three corner stuff

2536
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: because they Like Marcus jones and he's going to be

2537
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 1: on the field AND i don't know how much how

2538
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,680
Speaker 1: often you're gonna be in dying, Right so that is

2539
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: definitely more rotational. Role so you, know you draft somebody this,

2540
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,120
Speaker 1: year if you draft them high enough to be a pipeline.

2541
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:53,600
Speaker 1: Player they're probably not going to play a lot this.

2542
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 1: Year kind of want that out of your higher. Picks

2543
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: this is one WHERE i would more draft the third,

2544
01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:58,880
Speaker 1: guy kick it down the.

2545
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 3: Road the other thing is there's a lot there's a

2546
01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 3: lot of slot nickel defenders in this, draft and some of,

2547
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 3: them well.

2548
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: See here's THE i don't think they're if they're going

2549
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:09,600
Speaker 1: for third, SAFETY i think they're going to target the

2550
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: slot nickel because they Have Marcus. PHILLIS i think they're

2551
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:14,240
Speaker 1: going to hot when they want to go like three

2552
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: safety to get, bigger when they want to try to

2553
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 1: counter teams that have like two good pass catching tight. Ends, Right,

2554
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: yeah that kind of. Guy so that's where you get

2555
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 1: into that's the you know The Jalen killgores of the, world,

2556
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: right you, know and you know tread And stokes From,

2557
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 1: Arizona Jacoby thomas and.

2558
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 3: Right but those, GUYS i feel like there's a lot

2559
01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 3: of that type of.

2560
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: Play so that would but that's not a pipeline. PLAYER

2561
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: i think we re on that.

2562
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 3: Correct so this here's the other.

2563
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 1: Thing and Maybe i'm nuts for saying, This i'm. NOT

2564
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,120
Speaker 1: i know he's on a one year. DEAL i know

2565
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: he's thirty three years.

2566
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 3: Old you don't Think buyer has done after.

2567
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 1: That i'm not trying to Run buyered out the. Door

2568
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 1: maybe he, Is, Yeah i'm not operating under the assumption

2569
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: that he foresure. Is and IF i have to go

2570
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 1: get a starting safety next, year so be.

2571
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,960
Speaker 3: IT i think it's. Tough the reason WHY i brought

2572
01:54:54,040 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 3: that as the facilitation question is BECAUSE i don't know

2573
01:54:56,240 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 3: if there's a lot of guys that thread the needle

2574
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 3: of both of those. THINGS i think there's a lot

2575
01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 3: of cover safeties in this, draft and there's a lot

2576
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 3: of Like nickel safeties in this, draft AND i don't

2577
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 3: know if there was a guy a lot of guys

2578
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 3: that do. Both Genesis smith From arizona might be the

2579
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 3: only one because he's done. Both he did The nickel

2580
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 3: thing in twenty four and then he did the free

2581
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 3: safety thing in twenty.

2582
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 1: Two real, Quick i'm gonna skip the guys that are

2583
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: in the first. TIME i can Get, halsey which one

2584
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: big box, Safety ramsey over the top free, safety just Said, Smith,

2585
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 1: wheatley free, Safety Kilgore, Nickel clark free, Safety Thomas, Jakoba Thomas,

2586
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 1: Miami box V J payne, Box Michael Taffy texas. Box

2587
01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: BUT i have, concerns probably more a special. Teamer, yeah

2588
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 1: it Was Newsky draftabole Question Mark All, YEAH i didn't

2589
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 1: realize how FAR i was down the bord, Here SO

2590
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 1: i was kind of, wondering are any of those guys

2591
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 1: Watched newski for one? Tape and this always, happens and

2592
01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: we got to wrap, up AND i KNOW i got

2593
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 1: Some are any of those guys close to? Hybrid who's

2594
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: the closest? Hybrid, YEAH i gotta be Wheatly kill Or thomas,

2595
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: right but he's going.

2596
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 3: Higher, YEAH i don't. KNOW i DON'T i don't. KNOW

2597
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 3: i don't. Think. So the real quick thing THAT i

2598
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 3: was going to say is, that like you, all WHEN

2599
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 3: i try to go really deep at a, position you

2600
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 3: get to a point where you start to, realize, like,

2601
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 3: okay there's a drop off. Here i'm getting to the

2602
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:24,680
Speaker 3: point of the draft now WHERE i don't think these

2603
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 3: guys are draftable. Anymore all, right let's get to these.

2604
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Phones you guys got to be. Quick we only have

2605
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 3: a couple more. Minutes mark is In. Connecticut what's?

2606
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:32,080
Speaker 4: Up? Mark?

2607
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 6: Hey, EVIN i was talking To alex off The ether

2608
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 6: ABOUT A. J? Brown what is the reasoning why the

2609
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,840
Speaker 6: deal like can't happen, now but make it a Post june,

2610
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 6: First you know WHAT i? Mean BECAUSE i think The

2611
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 6: MIAMI tua was, released but he's a Post june, FIRST i, Believe, yeah,

2612
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 6: Book so why can't they do the same thing WITH A. J,

2613
01:56:56,040 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 6: Brown like put the deal in place whatever the picks,

2614
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,200
Speaker 6: are if the pixo this year or next year, year

2615
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 6: but he's going to be anwing them page it and

2616
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,240
Speaker 6: it's a Post june. First i'm just curious on why

2617
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 6: they just can't get it.

2618
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,680
Speaker 3: Done, yeah so you can't do, that thanks for the.

2619
01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 3: Call mark just by THE cba the letter of the.

2620
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:15,000
Speaker 3: Line you can't designate a trade Post june. Trade you

2621
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 3: can do it with. CUTS i haven't gotten the. Grade

2622
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:20,400
Speaker 3: i've asked a lot of. PEOPLE i don't know. That

2623
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 3: no one really has an.

2624
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Explanation it kind of has to do with like, payroll,

2625
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: honestly because when The dolphins cut to, it they're still paying. Them, yeah,

2626
01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 1: right when The eagles TRADE Aj, brown they're not still paying,

2627
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: them but.

2628
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 3: They'll have dead money on their cap the same. WAY

2629
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 3: i don't. KNOW i can't come up with a great

2630
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,680
Speaker 3: reason for. It but all you need to know it's

2631
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 3: just the way it's. Structure it's just the way the

2632
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 3: letter of the loss says you can't do.

2633
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 5: That you.

2634
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 3: KNOW i know this was floated By Adam schefter recently

2635
01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 3: and he debunked that this is happening. THERE i guess

2636
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 3: you could have a, wink, wink, nudge nudge under the table, saying,

2637
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 3: hey like we got a deal, right, right it's not

2638
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 3: exactly above board to do. THAT i guess theoretically you

2639
01:57:57,120 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 3: could do. That, also then you're going on the word

2640
01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 3: of the two general. Management all of.

2641
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 1: A, sudden some receiver twists his. Knee first day because

2642
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: ota start In, may some receiver twists his. Knee now

2643
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 1: this other team comes in blows away your, offer, right you,

2644
01:58:11,040 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: know everything goes up And i'm, sure, Look i'm sure

2645
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 1: they've discussed it what it would look like Post june. One,

2646
01:58:15,800 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 1: right that doesn't mean you can't get ahead on. It

2647
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:20,680
Speaker 1: but just because The eagles, say, okay you, know we

2648
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: like your, offer we're gonna take it On june, second

2649
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: they still have the right change of. Mind here's WHAT

2650
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: i didn't. Know maybe you've looked this up in your.

2651
01:58:27,400 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: Research does Post june, one mean like midnight At june,

2652
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 1: one it can happen or does that mean they can't

2653
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 1: do it Until june?

2654
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:35,120
Speaker 3: Two they can't do it Until june, two, okay because

2655
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 3: he goes through the transaction wire on the first Of, june,

2656
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 3: right and then they have to it has to like

2657
01:58:40,680 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 3: process and then they can agree to it On june,

2658
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 3: one though well he's, uh, YEAH i guess they could

2659
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:49,200
Speaker 3: probably agree in. Principle, yeah kind of the same way

2660
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: that they do before the league year. Starts but the

2661
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 3: trade has to be processed after the first Of.

2662
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: June, okay like it has to go through THE who after,

2663
01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:00,040
Speaker 1: that it won't be official Until june, second if it, happens, okay.

2664
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah but we might find out On june, first mark

2665
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,440
Speaker 3: first at a trade has been agreed to write and.

2666
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Principal last call, here gotta be, Quick brad In. Ohio what's?

2667
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:10,160
Speaker 4: Up?

2668
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:13,080
Speaker 2: Brad, hey, guys how you doing? Today?

2669
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:15,240
Speaker 4: Good real?

2670
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 2: QUICK i just wanted to to check or talk about

2671
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 2: a Guard Kaylin. RUTLEDGE i think he would be a

2672
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: steal and then the linebackers From michigan That Wink martindale coached,

2673
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 2: him SO i know there was An Ernest, housman he was.

2674
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 2: OUTSTANDING i don't know what happened to. Him but Then

2675
01:59:35,480 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 2: Jimmy roder who was injured at the, end And Kayshaan

2676
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 2: barham was injured during the. Combine SO i Think Jimmy

2677
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 2: roder would be an undrafted free. Agent Max braddison the

2678
01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 2: fullback and instant. Play what do you guys think about?

2679
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, brad thanks for the. Call who's the first?

2680
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Thing Then, rutledge super physical, guard tested well at the.

2681
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 1: Combine he's going to be a top seventy pick or

2682
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:02,520
Speaker 1: not taking a good? Player, yeah if they take, him

2683
02:00:03,120 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 1: we start talking about Is mike won the? Team?

2684
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah one of the best run blocking guards in the,

2685
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:12,120
Speaker 3: draft like tenacious angry finishes, blocks but has played mostly right,

2686
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 3: GUARD i believe throughout his college. Career and The patriots

2687
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:17,320
Speaker 3: have two twenty million dollar, guards not Twenty but.

2688
02:00:17,640 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 1: YEAH i don't really good player they shouldn't be taking

2689
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 1: by Bar.

2690
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 3: M's the new hot, name you, know he's the new

2691
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 3: guy with the. DRAFT i really liked his pass rush,

2692
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 3: Tape LIKE i think he's an outside linebacker in a three,

2693
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 3: four you, know rushing the passer from a two point.

2694
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,320
Speaker 3: Stance he played a little bit off the. Ball he's

2695
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 3: now getting this fringy you, know top. One i'm not even.

2696
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 3: Fringy he's getting top one. Hundred. BUZZ i think my

2697
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 3: Guy crawford From auburn's in a similar book where there's

2698
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 3: JUST i Think i've watched twenty edge rushers so, far

2699
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:48,800
Speaker 3: And i'm still kind of not. Done ALTHOUGH i did

2700
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 3: kind of fee feel LIKE i hit the. UH i

2701
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 3: Watched Cayden curry From Ohio state earlier to, YEAH i

2702
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 3: kind of feel LIKE i hit the. WALL i was,

2703
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 3: like all, right this, guy this guy's probably he's.

2704
02:00:58,280 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Fine he's a day three. Piece day.

2705
02:00:59,680 --> 02:00:59,840
Speaker 4: Three.

2706
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah to some of the other guys you, Mentioned Max,

2707
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:05,120
Speaker 1: bretison really good. Fallback they Signed Reggie. Gilliam that shouldn't

2708
02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: be an. Issue, yeah and Then Ernest houseman medically retired

2709
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,120
Speaker 1: after the, season so he is not in the.

2710
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 3: Draft that's too.

2711
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:15,520
Speaker 1: Bad all, right we'll be back next. Week The owners

2712
02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 1: meetings is next. Week, yeah so we'll have a GO

2713
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 1: i am not.

2714
02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,160
Speaker 3: Going we have a Mic rable press conference at the owners,

2715
02:01:23,240 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 3: Meetings Robert kraft press conference at the owners, Meeting so

2716
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 3: there'll be some stuff to talk about off that and

2717
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:32,000
Speaker 3: then of course we'll keep you updating all the good

2718
02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 3: draft stuff and that will be carry us for most

2719
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:37,000
Speaker 3: of the, Time i'm sure on the show as it always.

2720
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:38,640
Speaker 3: Does but we'll see you guys. Then thanks for. Watching

2721
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 3: we'll see you next. Week.

2722
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 1: Bye, hey this Is.

2723
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 13: Matis thanks for tuning into the. Show if you really

2724
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:46,920
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2725
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:50,080
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2726
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:52,040
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2727
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:54,280
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2728
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 13: that we do at The. Patriots thanks a, lot