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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: coleeen Witt, and today we have special guests Amani Corkoran,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about why being black and

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Speaker 1: vegan is so important, or you know what, just being

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Speaker 1: vegan in general is important. Now, a lot of you

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Speaker 1: guys don't know that my secret guilty pleasure is eating

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Speaker 1: out vegan. So if you guys ever want to like

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Speaker 1: get Coleen to like come out and eat, definitely offer

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Speaker 1: me a vegan meal. I will not turn it down.

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Speaker 1: But the irony of my life is that I actually

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Speaker 1: don't know how to cook vegan. So I was really

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Speaker 1: excited to have you on the show. And guess what,

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Speaker 1: Amani's gonna cook a broke vegan, which means that we're

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Speaker 1: all gonna be able to do this, guys.

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Speaker 2: So what do you have us eating today? So today

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be making some lentil tacos. I'm really excited.

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Speaker 2: So of course we have our canlentos, we have some salsa,

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Speaker 2: we have our seasoning here, we have our tortilla shells,

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Speaker 2: some avocado, lime, cilantro onion, and of course we need

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Speaker 2: some tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, this dish looks healthy. It was extremely affordable.

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Speaker 1: One of the ways I decide on what's affordable what's

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Speaker 1: not is based on how many meals you can get

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Speaker 1: out of it and how much it actually costs. And

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Speaker 1: I will say, for LA standards, this meal is very affordable.

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Speaker 1: I think the lentils were like two dollars and fifty cents,

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Speaker 1: which I'm assuming is our replacement for meat. And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see now how the taste lines.

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Speaker 3: Up with the price, which we can do. Okay, we

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Speaker 3: can all.

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Speaker 1: On you, Amani, because I'm doing real judging now. I'm

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Speaker 1: no longer first season.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't wait, wait, wait, wait season.

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Speaker 1: This season, I'm not get hard you get you know what,

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Speaker 1: because Amani has a cookbook, so she's getting eat. She's

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Speaker 1: gonna be judged the hardest. Okay, so go ahead, impress

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Speaker 1: it with your bro vegan. Okay, I got presses. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: get started.

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Speaker 3: Let's get started.

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Speaker 1: Get started. I'm gonna just sit back and watch, okay,

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Speaker 1: and then uh, the.

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Speaker 3: Table want me help you? Thank you? Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: you got a little stuck.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So first thing we have to do is turn this

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Speaker 2: puppy on. Yes, I'm guessing is if this one goes

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Speaker 2: to this one, each one has the yeah, yeah, you're.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're right, okay, just making.

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Speaker 1: Sure this was yeah, and it gets hot really fast.

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Speaker 3: I see this is our very uh fake guys.

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Speaker 1: So please let's pray for money that she does not

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Speaker 1: burn herself.

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Speaker 3: It won't be Yeah, we will not get burned.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna add about a tablespoon of your oil.

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Speaker 2: I love avocado oil. Any oil works, okay, And then

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Speaker 2: we're just gonna let this heat up just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And while that's heating up, we're gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 2: just start to open up our season packet and get

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people don't know.

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Speaker 2: This, but seasoning packets have like sixteen servings per packet.

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Speaker 2: Like when I grew up, my grandma would just throw

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Speaker 2: the whole entire packet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's what I grew up doing, right, And then.

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Speaker 2: When I started looking at serving sizes, you'll realize there's

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Speaker 2: six servings per packet. So that's just important to note

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Speaker 2: for like sodium levels things like that.

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Speaker 3: But that's just something I noticed. Okay, you're healthy, healthy, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're legit guys. Yeah, no, legitimate here.

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Speaker 2: Today, But when I was broke, I wasn't this legita.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna cook it like I'm broke.

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Speaker 3: But this is the fun fact.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So while that's I think it's almost hot,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna get a little bit harder because we want

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Speaker 2: to add our onions. First, onions. I know this like

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Speaker 2: topping technically, but I can use it for boat. So

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Speaker 2: we want to add our onions, and we want to

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Speaker 2: add our tomatoes because that's gonna make it actually.

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Speaker 3: Like, okay, be better.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching watching.

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Speaker 2: Here, and can I go. I don't want to put

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Speaker 2: my hands in things. You know, we're post COVID. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna add half in there? Okay, then we're there, and

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Speaker 2: then we can add this half in here too.

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Speaker 3: Some tomatoes use the rest word the top. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: need tomatoes.

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Speaker 1: So I'm terrified of cooked tomatoes.

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Speaker 3: Oh why wouldn't you? No, no, no, it's not that bad.

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Speaker 1: I just had a bad experience one time with McDonald's

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Speaker 1: and was never the same.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, McDonald's doesn't.

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Speaker 1: No, they did.

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Speaker 3: Back in the day. McDonald's had like baheitas or something.

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Speaker 3: That was the first mistake. Why did you go to McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: For it was. This was years ago. I was like

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Speaker 1: probably like twelve or something, and just it was a

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Speaker 1: bad experience and I never could eat tomatoes the same way.

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Speaker 2: Since twelve, we've had this trauma, yes, and trauma trauma today. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to wait for this to heat up

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Speaker 2: a little bit so it gets hot fast.

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Speaker 3: But it's get hot quick quick. Yeah yeah, is it

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Speaker 3: not hot?

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Speaker 2: It's warm, but we want to oil to like sizzle.

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Speaker 2: We're looking for for a sizzle. Okay, So you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at you. You have a packet in

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Speaker 1: one hand.

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Speaker 3: This is for our guests that are just listening.

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Speaker 1: But I don't see her like mixing the lentils with

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Speaker 1: so like typically when it's me, you put the meeting,

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Speaker 1: but I see you hold in.

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Speaker 3: The packet first.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, what I like to do is I like

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Speaker 2: to add the seasonings to like your garlic, your onion,

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Speaker 2: then you put more seasoning on top of that, because

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Speaker 2: really the seasoning is going to be in that onion,

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be in all like the aromatics

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Speaker 2: call it a day. You can do that, but if

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Speaker 2: up yeah that makes sense. Actually yeah, and then I

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Speaker 2: let it. We learned a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I know a thing or two.

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Speaker 3: You gotta cook book, you gotta cook it.

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Speaker 1: What was going on when you were cooking lent old tacos.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was in graduate school.

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Speaker 2: So I went from going to college right and then

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Speaker 2: I had a year. I took a year in between,

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Speaker 3: Be a student again.

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Speaker 2: And that's when I realized I have no money, Like

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Speaker 2: job is gone. I'm a full time student again and

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Speaker 2: I had to start and I was vegan.

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Speaker 3: I was not vegan previously.

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Speaker 1: So like you went, so you didn't work while you

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Speaker 3: I was a student aid.

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Speaker 2: So you were like limited income, yes, very very limited

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Speaker 2: because in order for me to pay for my graduate school.

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Speaker 2: I was doing black and vegan. I had about three jobs.

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Speaker 3: What were you in that glad school for communications?

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Speaker 2: So I went to UT University of Texas and you know,

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Speaker 2: what they might be deserving of. And graduate students typically

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Speaker 2: So like let's say you're twenty six to thirty five,

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Speaker 1: A little bit of money a little.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I didn't even a little bit of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you have to you have to work there to

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Speaker 2: like you had to work, well, I had to work

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Speaker 2: because I also I'm not from a wealthy family. I

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Speaker 3: I was a part of my requirements. So, okay, that's

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Speaker 1: So you went to school for communications, Yeah, how do

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Speaker 1: you end up with black and Vegan, Like, what what

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Speaker 1: were you initially going to do with the communications story?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad you asked.

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Speaker 2: I actually kind of laughed because when I look at

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Speaker 2: my letter that I sent into these the graduate school

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Speaker 2: to accept me, I'm nowhere near that right now. Because

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Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be in DEI, which

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Speaker 2: is I versed in inclusion, equity, all these things. I

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Speaker 2: I thought that's what I was going to be doing.

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Speaker 2: But that's really sizzling it is.

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Speaker 3: I need help opening this.

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Speaker 1: Can I do the I'll do it the way you're

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Speaker 3: A guys, Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it's trying.

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Speaker 3: To be all nice and proper.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not proper.

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Speaker 3: We're not proper here, of course.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna add in the sea.

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Speaker 1: So we hear the sizzle, you hear the the onions

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Speaker 1: and the tomatoes and the olive oil.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just gonna And.

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Speaker 1: Then I like to ask this because I've been doing

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Speaker 1: this cooking show long enough that I'm learning that all

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Speaker 1: oils aren't built the same.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't want to say anything.

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Speaker 1: We have olive oil on the table. We did have

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Speaker 1: vegetable oil. But which oil is the preferred oil that

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Speaker 1: you would have preferred to use, because I do realize

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Speaker 1: I just set you up there.

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Speaker 3: Avocado oil.

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Speaker 1: Avocado oil.

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Speaker 2: Avocado oil has the highest smoke point, which means when

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Speaker 2: it gets really, really really hot, it will produce less

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Speaker 2: toxins in the air.

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Speaker 3: All these things.

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Speaker 2: Alive oil is people used for, Like we're gonna add

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Speaker 2: our lentils now, Olive oil is normally used for something

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Speaker 2: the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: This is a whole can. Yeah, oh wow, which this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which, by the way, I do I have to

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Speaker 3: And watching that documentary, you realize that you have power.

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Speaker 3: People just don't know what we eat, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I am when I became vegan the first time, right,

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's not true, and I want to never

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Speaker 1: My church does it. Yeah, it's it's not ter. Let

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Speaker 3: But you also have tofoo, which no one wants to

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Speaker 2: And I'm going to tell you how to make it

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Speaker 1: you can replace me and stuff with, then you can

443
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Speaker 1: get more comfortable like exploring, right.

444
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Speaker 2: And I think that's what the basis of my book is.

445
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Speaker 2: It's literally creating those fundamental processes. So you understand, Okay,

446
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Speaker 2: if I know how to just make a crispy tofu,

447
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 2: I can put any sauce on this and I can

448
00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 2: make it taste really good.

449
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Speaker 1: So you can make tofu tastes like chicken. Yeah, based

450
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Speaker 1: on your cookbook, Based on.

451
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Speaker 2: My cookbook, absolutely yes, Okay, yes, I even have a

452
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Speaker 2: ribbed recipe in the cookbook. Absolutely absolutely. If we had

453
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Speaker 2: like a couple of hours a day, I wouldn't I

454
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Speaker 2: would have got down with it.

455
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Speaker 4: I would have.

456
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Speaker 2: My cookbook absolutely yes, yes, I even have a ribbed

457
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Speaker 2: recipe in the cookbook.

458
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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. If we had like a couple of hours

459
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Speaker 3: a day.

460
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Speaker 1: You know what, I got down with it. When your

461
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Speaker 1: episode drops, I challenge you, Wait, I could do a

462
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: like we should I should get your cookbook in advance.

463
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Speaker 1: Maybe we could do like an Instagram where we walk

464
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Speaker 1: me through making fake rib It's improper? Is there like

465
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Speaker 1: an improper way to talk about Well?

466
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm like such an easy going person. It

467
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Speaker 3: doesn't really thought.

468
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Speaker 1: But has other people ever like?

469
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's there's a controversy in the vegan world.

470
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Speaker 2: Like some people don't like when people call things meat

471
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Speaker 2: items when they're not meat items, like fake or no no, no,

472
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 2: Like they don't like calling something vegan ribs or vegan chicken.

473
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Speaker 2: If it's in fact like a cauliflower, or if it's

474
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Speaker 2: in fact like an alternative meat, it doesn't bother me.

475
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Speaker 3: I'm okay. But there's those people in the world.

476
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Speaker 1: But there is a there is there a what is

477
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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for? Is there a.

478
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Speaker 3: Etiquette?

479
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: Etiquette to vegan lifestyle?

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Speaker 3: You think?

481
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would like to say, I would like

482
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Speaker 2: to speak for everybody, but I just can't.

483
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Speaker 1: Like I like that.

484
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Speaker 3: I think it's preference in person, and.

485
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Speaker 2: Like, as long as it tastes good and it doesn't

486
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Speaker 2: bother me, you know what I mean? Yeah, so nothing

487
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Speaker 2: really grinds my gears.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm curious. So when it comes to your cookbook and

489
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Speaker 1: we're bouncing around, guys, and we'll bounce back. But when

490
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Speaker 1: you came up with the name black and Vegan, it

491
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Speaker 1: was to identify what you were doing. It wasn't really

492
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Speaker 1: thinking like you're building a whole brand. It was of sharing,

493
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Speaker 1: right of course. Now do you think or have you

494
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Speaker 1: had people ask you, well, it's called black and vegan,

495
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Speaker 1: does that mean it's only black food or is it

496
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Speaker 1: vegan or you know, so, like what would you say

497
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Speaker 1: to like everyone, like if you had to say, is

498
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Speaker 1: it like an all inclusive book? Or do you think

499
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Speaker 1: it's a replica of cooking Black but Vegan?

500
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Speaker 2: Okay, I would say it's only when I say black,

501
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Speaker 2: I mean like no southern food.

502
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Speaker 3: I know what you meant.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it's an all inclusive food rendition recipes,

504
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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why. It's because it's literally what

505
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Speaker 2: I like to eat. And I've grown so much from

506
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Speaker 2: my childhood. So there's things that like I said, the

507
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Speaker 2: vegan ribs, there's greens in there there's cabbage and bacon,

508
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Speaker 2: there's coffee ice cream.

509
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Speaker 3: Those are all from my childhood.

510
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Speaker 2: Those are things like the represent my mom, my grandmother,

511
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Speaker 2: my family members, like that's my childhood. But there's also

512
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Speaker 2: cheesy pudding. Why because I eat that every single day?

513
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Speaker 2: So I d no chis fitting?

514
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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was like cheesecake, Well, there's a cheesecake

515
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: in the book too, Okay.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I would only eatcheescake for my birthdays. So

517
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Speaker 2: like I'm saying, this is like my black experience. I

518
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: like that it's me literally in a book, and I'm

519
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Speaker 2: not going to confine myself to what my grandma's favorite

520
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Speaker 2: southern dish, like my mom's favorite cheesecake.

521
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Speaker 3: Like it's literally me in a book.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is one hundred percent passion project.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

524
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Speaker 1: Now going backwards, I'm curious. So at some point you say, Okay,

525
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Speaker 1: I'm going to take this platform. I'm going to actually

526
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Speaker 1: do a platform because I do feel like I have

527
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Speaker 1: a fan base that's like kind of like really enjoying this.

528
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Speaker 1: So you take it to the next level, you get

529
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Speaker 1: black and Being and gone. So where does it go

530
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Speaker 1: from black and be into like, you know, let's just

531
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Speaker 1: keep going down the rabbit hole of passion. Is it

532
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Speaker 1: your passion or is there someone along the way that's like,

533
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Speaker 1: this could be a business.

534
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Speaker 2: I mean I would say it found me because I

535
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 2: put my email up, Like, of course I can put

536
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Speaker 2: my email up because I was looking for a free

537
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Speaker 2: bag of chips, and so look if someone says me chips,

538
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: and you know, someone sends me some, you know, I'll

539
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: promoted because I wanted some chips at the time.

540
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Speaker 3: But it was the influx of opportunities come away.

541
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Speaker 2: So it started off with partnerships and you know sponsorships,

542
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Speaker 2: Like what was your first partnership that you were like, oh,

543
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Speaker 2: oh we may have done something here, or you called

544
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 2: Jamn and was like, yo, you'll never guess what happened today.

545
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 2: Probably Peta okayea, yeah Peter, Oh dang, good old Peter,

546
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Speaker 2: the people that stole the red paint right well, yeah,

547
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Speaker 2: I mean because that's like the vegan Yeah, like that's

548
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Speaker 2: what I knew growing up. Like I didn't know anything

549
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Speaker 2: about being vegan, but I only knew that name. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 2: And I'm like when they emailed me, I said.

551
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Speaker 3: What did they say?

552
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Speaker 2: Well, they wanted me to do like every single year,

553
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Speaker 2: there's like vegan Awareness month, like Viganuary is begin awareness month,

554
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Speaker 2: and they want creators to talk about their fairite dishes Theganuary,

555
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Speaker 2: so it's January.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, my education out the window everybody, But yeah,

557
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Speaker 1: yeah January is vegan area Ganuary.

558
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Speaker 3: It goes makes it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's okay, we're starting to I think it

560
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Speaker 2: needs a little bit more oil.

561
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Speaker 3: I was trying to just you know.

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Speaker 1: I usually use butter, but then I was like, uh

563
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Speaker 1: use butter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's vegan butter, but it probably doesn't do

565
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Speaker 2: the same right it does.

566
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Speaker 3: I mean it well, you know, you know, my palette

567
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: might be to one direction.

568
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Speaker 2: You know, you might be like that's at but to me,

569
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Speaker 2: it's like this saints just like it, you know.

570
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Speaker 3: But yeah, they reached.

571
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Speaker 2: Out from you for Reganuary to do like a feature

572
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Speaker 2: of me on their platform, and I was like, wow, Peter,

573
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Speaker 2: huh you reach out to me. And I think that's

574
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Speaker 2: when I realized, Okay, this is this could this is.

575
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Speaker 3: Like and then something did that turn into something big?

576
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Speaker 3: Wasn't it came into It became just more recognition.

577
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Speaker 2: And I don't want, I know, we don't want to

578
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: get into all like the too much intricacies.

579
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: But I came out.

580
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Speaker 2: I came out on my page in twenty twenty, and

581
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, that's when we had covida, but that's also

582
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: when we had a lot of like racial conversations, right,

583
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 2: And so during that time period, a lot of white

584
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Speaker 2: creators because a lot of people think that being vegan

585
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Speaker 2: means that you're white or you have an affinity to

586
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Speaker 2: whiteness because they consider vegan diet like smoothies. And yeah,

587
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Speaker 2: of course I lose in the book chese putting in

588
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Speaker 2: the book. All that's in the book. But the creators

589
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: that were typically out there were white, right, and so

590
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Speaker 2: they started doing a lot of shout outs to black

591
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Speaker 2: creators at that time, and I was one of the

592
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Speaker 2: people that they shouted out. That's honestly how my page

593
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: got a lot more eyes to more than just black people,

594
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: because all those creators they bandaged together to talk about

595
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: my stuff grew me maybe ten thousand followers like overnight, wow,

596
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: And it just grew and grew and.

597
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: Kept growing, kept growing. I think that's really what it is.

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Speaker 1: Too.

599
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Speaker 2: First it was partnerships coming in, but like it just

600
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: kept growing. Engaged to ask me a question.

601
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Speaker 1: Did you ever read the book like the tipping Point?

602
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 3: No?

603
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Never?

604
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: Oh do I need?

605
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,719
Speaker 1: Do I need to? I think you would enjoy it.

606
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 3: I think I need to.

607
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's why Malcolm Gladwell, please God,

608
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Speaker 1: I think it's right.

609
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Speaker 3: I think it's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you kind of remind me of that you're

611
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: on the right path and then just you know, but

612
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Speaker 1: that's how it usually happens in entrepreneurship. But at what

613
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Speaker 1: part did you say you're going to go full time

614
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Speaker 1: into this or have you reached that point where you're

615
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Speaker 1: full time into it?

616
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm I'm almost there, okay, perfect, And I would

617
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Speaker 2: say this is why I don't know how deep we

618
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Speaker 2: can get.

619
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Speaker 1: You go as deep as possible. We love, we love transparents,

620
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Speaker 1: these little I.

621
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Speaker 3: Know it' supposed to be a fifteennute meal. I really

622
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: hope we ain't cut in.

623
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Speaker 2: The close, the little these little Tritias, they're still cooking, okay.

624
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Speaker 2: But I would say, like the fear of being on

625
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Speaker 2: my own doing my own thing, even though I knew

626
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: in my heart, I soul, my spirit, that's when I'm

627
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: supposed to go. And I feel like, you know, you're

628
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: kind to talk about God a little bit. God keeps

629
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 2: telling me money, this is where you're supposed to be.

630
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: It's scary at the end of the day doing everything

631
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: by yourself. But I would say I have a really

632
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: good support system, Like the people closest to me tell

633
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: me all the time you can do this, like this

634
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: is your thing.

635
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: And with that, I am about to.

636
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am. I've been talking a little bit more

637
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: about entrepreneurship on my personal page, and whenever I post

638
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: about it, I get a lot of calls from different people.

639
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: And the first thing is like, well, who am I

640
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: to do this? And like I don't really have an experience,

641
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yo, you're thinking exactly how entrepreneurs think,

642
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: the questioning of yourself, questioning of like whether you can

643
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: do something and whether you'll fail or whether you're just

644
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: freaking crazy for doing it to begin with. How you

645
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: know you're built for this, because I think I think

646
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times, and I said this before too,

647
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: like you know, there's people that are comfortable and they

648
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: hate their job and they're just comfortable, right, and then

649
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: they're complaining, And then the entrepreneur will go, I'm complaining,

650
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: But I think I may have a potential direction and

651
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick up the phone and I'm gonna call.

652
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: And then even though they're scared, they're picking up the

653
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: phone and calling. They're making those and I'm like, Yo,

654
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: you're scared, but yo, you just got your first customer,

655
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 1: like congratulations, and they're like, yeah, but can I I'm like, Yo,

656
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: you totally can't. That is normal.

657
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 3: Welcome to me and an entrepreneur.

658
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: Every day the rest of your life. You're gonna be like,

659
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: what the fuck was I thinking? Yeah? Or can I

660
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: do this? And yeah, so obviously you're doing it. You're

661
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: you have an amazing publicist you have. You know, we're

662
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Speaker 1: gonna see how you do it.

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Speaker 2: No, that's gonna be the real determined right there. Okay,

664
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Speaker 2: we're getting somewhere like so much, Okay, this one is done. Okay, cool,

665
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you both. I like, I kind

666
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Speaker 2: of don't. I like double wrapping. This is like not

667
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Speaker 2: to my standard completely, So let's not do that.

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Speaker 3: Let's give you the more.

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Speaker 1: Crispy one because oh you're so sweet, because you're you're

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Speaker 1: scared on gonna judge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went like, let's give her a little

672
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Speaker 2: bit more well heat more crunch so she will have

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Speaker 2: less to say.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, I eat out of uh. I

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Speaker 1: eat out of a Back in the day when I

676
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Speaker 1: was broke, I used to go to Dell Taco and

677
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Speaker 1: I would eat tacos. But sometimes I would order too much,

678
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Speaker 1: and you know, for whatever reason, like those random days

679
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Speaker 1: where I would end up with like tacos in the

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Speaker 1: trunk of my car. And I promise you I was

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Speaker 1: that girl that would remove anything tomato related and eat

682
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Speaker 1: that day old taco. And many of my friends can tell.

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Speaker 3: You tomato related. This is back to the trauma.

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Speaker 1: Back to the trauma. I'm looking at this tomato. Are

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Speaker 1: you gonna be mad if I move it?

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Speaker 3: No, I want you to be comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a forceful person. Easy breeze, and this looks

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Speaker 3: good topic it more.

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Speaker 1: Of the the isnt lins. Yeah, I'm excited about this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have you make way more of the

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Speaker 1: taco shells because you go by the way, guys, I

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Speaker 1: found this taco shell at the grocery store in LA

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Speaker 1: They're like fresh. I think they like kind of doey. Oh,

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Speaker 1: they get those little air bubbles in them. I'm obsessed

696
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Speaker 1: with air bubbles. Give me air bubbles.

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Speaker 3: We need all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I have a question about avocado. Okay,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, this avocado is fresh, right, you see how

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Speaker 1: it gets those brown specs like this first cut? What

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Speaker 1: is the myth? I'm only asking you because you're got

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Speaker 1: a cookbook, But like, if the avocado has those little

703
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Speaker 1: brown specs, yeah, are we allowed to eat it?

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Speaker 2: Of course eat it. Oh, it doesn't mean it's like bad. No,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it's like a little brown No, you're

706
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Speaker 2: totally fine. Like at the end of the day, it's

707
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Speaker 2: like a fruit. It's like a vegetable, like there's gonna

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Speaker 2: be sometimes that it's not completely perfect, but that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I think when most of it is brown, like about

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Speaker 2: half of it is brown, or like a big large

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Speaker 2: section is brown, that's okay.

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Speaker 3: And it's really squishy, it's like, okay.

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Speaker 1: Don't eat it. But if it has the little brown dots,

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Speaker 1: it's it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I survived this.

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Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do. I'm gonna remove the cooked tomato, Yeah, removed.

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Speaker 3: The fresh mat the fresh ye.

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Speaker 2: This is like freestyle like my mom would do taco

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Speaker 2: Tuesdays every Tuesday. Growing up, okay, and so like this

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Speaker 2: is how she would make it, Like she would literally

721
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Speaker 2: just put all the stuff out and say, look y'all

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Speaker 2: do it yourself.

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Speaker 1: So there's no I noticed in this taco.

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Speaker 3: There's no like fake meat cheese. Oh, fake cheese. Yeah,

725
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Speaker 3: I'm not a I'm not.

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Speaker 2: The biggest fan of fake cheese in my book. I

727
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Speaker 2: make my own cheese in the book because I prefer

728
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Speaker 2: that's like the cashew cheese, right, yeah, cashew cheese like

729
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Speaker 2: nacho cheese. I make pricotta cheese, I make feta cheese,

730
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Speaker 2: like all the things.

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Speaker 1: So being a vegan chef, do people would you say

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Speaker 1: people need like special tools in the kitchen, Like I

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Speaker 1: love gadgets. I'm a gadget girl. I don't have a

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Speaker 1: gadget okay section in my house. I'm hearing the gadgets.

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Speaker 1: Do if people were take like using your cookbook, would

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Speaker 1: they have to like have gadgets?

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Speaker 2: Maybe a food processor, a food not Maybe you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: need a food processor.

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Speaker 3: The food processor is the round thing that spins.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that that makes it Like a blender would

741
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Speaker 2: be something for like a smoothie, which I know sometimes

742
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Speaker 2: people still like to use for all types of things,

743
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Speaker 2: because there's some really robust blenders out there, but a

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Speaker 2: food processor.

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Speaker 3: Will get things really fine.

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Speaker 1: All around slamming.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now this is I'm gonna let let's let's do this.

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Speaker 1: This looks good.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what came at.

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Speaker 1: It's got that. You know what we're gonna do extra. Oh,

751
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna have you remake mothers anyways, because the crew

752
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: always wants to eat it.

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Speaker 3: Anyways, Can I try it?

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Speaker 1: It has a crunch? Oh did that have the lime?

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Speaker 3: I did you need to add the lime at the like? I?

756
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Speaker 3: Did you need that?

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Speaker 1: A city?

758
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Speaker 3: I got it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, should let me sit while we do this because

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Speaker 2: this looks like a hefty service.

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Speaker 1: All right, the middle cameras all right, mmm, I know

762
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Speaker 1: this is pretty fantastic. All right, Oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, he may have ste home for your kids. It

764
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Speaker 3: doesn't take too long. It's good.

765
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Speaker 1: It's just lamon.

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Speaker 3: And this is when I was broke.

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Speaker 2: This is like a good and it fills you up

768
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Speaker 2: well because lentils are all carbs, beans are all carbs.

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Speaker 1: It fills you up.

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Speaker 3: Hone needs about three d's out the door.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to like. It is really good. It's spelling.

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Speaker 1: It tastes like a real taco. I'm trying to judge

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Speaker 1: the beans, but I don't think I can like.

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Speaker 3: It just tastes good.

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Speaker 1: Like I genuinely can't like judge it. You know, I

776
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Speaker 1: would love to be like it tastes veganish. It doesn't

777
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: really taste veganish. It just tastes good.

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Speaker 3: It makes you happy.

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00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm go CoA this whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead. I took a little away.

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Speaker 1: There have been episodes in the past where I haven't

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Speaker 1: been able to like remember that time when we had

783
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Speaker 1: the pick up egg guys. No, that was terrible. No,

784
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: it was terrible. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: That's what they would eat.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm, oh my god. You vibe with it. I'm

787
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Speaker 1: gonna make this at home tonight.

788
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Speaker 3: I'm honored at home.

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00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm honored my daughter and not gonna go vegan.

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Speaker 2: Could you imagine if I go vegan, if you go vegan,

791
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Speaker 2: I will literally I would fly We should like, well,

792
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Speaker 2: if I'm plans, we need to like fly out meet

793
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Speaker 2: each other because you're in La, right.

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Speaker 3: You mean me to go like to all the vegan

795
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Speaker 3: spots we need to do is really good? You haven't.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I'm finishing up. You didn't have to

797
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Speaker 1: make more the rest of this interview, Yeah, I am,

798
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: we should have. I think it's it's the I like

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Speaker 1: the outer shell being hard and the inner shell being soft.

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Speaker 1: I never thought of it, but that's actually brilliant. Like

801
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: the texture is there. It doesn't taste like tofu. It

802
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: doesn't taste mush. I love the extra toppings. It's super healthy,

803
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: super cheap, and it's just tasty and tasty. And you

804
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: didn't use the whole season back at either. No, there's

805
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: a lot left.

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And she's from New York, so she'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I ate it all. Okay, I'm chewing

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00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: on my mic. It was delicious. I definitely recommend it

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Speaker 1: for all my listeners and watchers.

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00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: Like, is this in the cookbook?

813
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: No, this is just what I when I was like,

814
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Speaker 2: this is your broke dish, my other broke when I

815
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Speaker 2: came up.

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00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: A little bit, that's what guys. This will be in

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00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: our Eating Walt Broke cookbook under a Moni dish. So

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Speaker 1: go back to your story.

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00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: Let me, man, I'm gonna be sure you didn't.

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Speaker 1: We did a lot.

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Speaker 2: We did a lot, but I ate the whole taco

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Speaker 2: in what three seconds? Thirty ten seconds? I do choo,

823
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Speaker 2: guys clean out.

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: Mhmm. That tackle was so good.

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00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: I'm really honored.

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00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: I almost kind of want to try a cooked tomato,

827
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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna do it. We'll wait.

828
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you gotta make through. I don't want to

829
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: bring that.

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Speaker 1: So delicious, My goodness, you're doing it for me. Yeah,

831
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: so this is what you hate when you were broken. Yeah,

832
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: he was doing it.

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00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 3: I mean, of course I didn't say I was. Because

834
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Speaker 3: you're broken, you gotta eat some nasty.

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Speaker 1: I do all the time. I still wake up in

836
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: the middle night any peanut butter and jelly.

837
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 3: So no, I love peanut butter and jelly.

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00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Really. I hated it when I was a kid, but

839
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: now as an adult, I'm like, it's like a luxury now,

840
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: in my opinion, weird.

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00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you get white bread for me, if

842
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: I get if I do anything other than whole week,

843
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm doing it, like I'm not to

844
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: my childhood, like that wonder.

845
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 3: Bread that I was about to say that the terrible bread.

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00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so good.

847
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

848
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: So now that you are what can you say I'm

849
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: just curious, like, on your way to creating the Black

850
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: and Vegan Cookbook and having the success, Like, what would

851
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: you say was some of the hardest hurdles you had

852
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: to overcome?

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00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, probably one of the hardest. There's a couple

854
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: of things, of course, sure. Probably one of the hardest

855
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: things was one. I was so scared in making it

856
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 2: because I'm like, people are really going to buy it,

857
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: and I was like always in my head, like this

858
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: needs to be perfect, because I put a lot of

859
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: weight on myself to make sure that everything was good

860
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: and questioning my abilities, like I cook for you, like

861
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: when you're saying this is so good, Like that gives

862
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: me encouragement because I cook so much for my immediate

863
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: friends and family because I cook got home. I'm a

864
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: home chef, So like making sure the audience loves it,

865
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: that's so important to me. And so a lot of

866
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: pressure are a lot of pressure was put on. And

867
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Speaker 2: then did you feel like you had to go to

868
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: culinary school or did you like, I'm gonna trust myself.

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00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: I trust myself, but I think I like that.

870
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a piece of the insecurity a little bit.

871
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: It's like you know what I know for a fact,

872
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Like because I was the child, I'm the oldest daughter

873
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: in the family. So I made the Thanksgiving dinners, I

874
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: made the Christmas dinners, I did all that.

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00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I've never done any of that. Okay, okay,

876
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: so you had experience.

877
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had experience, so I trusted, like I

878
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: leaned on that, like I leaned on people literally eating

879
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: my food from a young age.

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00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: So seeing that you were cooking Thanksgiving dinners, Like, did

881
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Speaker 1: your family have to take a blow? Oh? Absolutely so

882
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: so you don't cook anything meat for them?

883
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: No, my sister takes it over now, Like I'm so

884
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: sorry for you guys, I know, but they get to

885
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: eat vegan food now.

886
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: But like I've resigned as like the the like turkey

887
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: and I don't know what do you eat turkey and

888
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: hamd person, Like I've resigned.

889
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: So is it because you don't want to handle it

890
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: at all?

891
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

892
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: I just I get weirded out now, Like after you

893
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: don't touch meat for a long time, it gets a

894
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: little weird, like opening up the skin and sliding butter

895
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: in there.

896
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: It just it gets a little weird.

897
00:38:50,440 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: It's a little weird.

898
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: So I literally I stay out of it, and I

899
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: make literally vegan dishes that they all can eat, so

900
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: like for Thanksgivings, Like I even have it on my YouTube.

901
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 3: You'll see, like I showed you guys are vegan Thanksgiving.

902
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: There's regular meat for my family members, but the rest

903
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: of it is vegan.

904
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

905
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: You know my sister makes marcarea and cheese stale and.

906
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: You know me, Now, do you feel like as a vegan,

907
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: like we have to keep doing the substitutes because like

908
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: when I was immature. I'm gonna say immature, because I

909
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: told you I have vegan homies and they started vegan

910
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: vegan lifestyle before vegan was even popping. And they're black guys,

911
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: by the way, common yeah, and they're black guys and

912
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: they've been doing vegan since we were like twenty, right,

913
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: And when I say laugh joke, I feel bad. And

914
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: there's some of my closest friends. Right, but you know,

915
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: been vegan. But over the years, obviously you mature and

916
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: you stop making fun of other people's different choices and

917
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: you try it. I forgot where I was going with this,

918
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 1: but oh, I was gonna say. Now that I've been

919
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: eating vegan for a while, I know I call it

920
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: like fake meat, and it's like immature of me. But

921
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: do you really think that there has to be a

922
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: imitation of say, like say you're doing Thanksgiving dinner, do

923
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: you have to do an imitation turkey or do you

924
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: feel like you can just do like these tacos were fantastic.

925
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't even have to pretend like there it's fake meat.

926
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: It was just a fantastic taco. So do you feel

927
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: like as a vegan you can just say, you know,

928
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: this is the dish and it's just healthy and you

929
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: don't have to do like, you know, I'll make you

930
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: a chicken taco or whatever. Do you feel like that now?

931
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: Like now, my whole book is that I only have

932
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: one alternative meat dish in that book. Everything else is

933
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: beans and made from beans essentially. It's the protein source essentially.

934
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: And it beans are protein. Yeah, oh I thought you

935
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: said they were cards.

936
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna break it down.

937
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, please do.

938
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: So it's like tofu is made from beans, soybeans, So

939
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 2: like your soy beans are going to have really high protein,

940
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: super lean, but like lintels are going to be more carbs.

941
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: Most beans are more carbs than they are protein?

942
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: How can you tell it? Like if you are Coleen

943
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: walking through a store, how do I go witch your

944
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: protein just first glance?

945
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: Like is it like dark beans versus light beans or no?

946
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: No, no, So most of like your canned beans, like

947
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: your lentils, your pento beans, your black beans, like anything

948
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: you make like a chili or any type of bean

949
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: dish is mostly going to be carbs only. Soybeans really

950
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: have a lot of protein in them. And soybean is

951
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: like where you get the tofu and you get the

952
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: tempe and you get at a mammee, so like they're

953
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: really high in protein and stuff like that. And so,

954
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: but my book is based off of that assumption that

955
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 2: like you kind of have to have fake meat for

956
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: something to taste so delicious and so good and so

957
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: much like you had in childhood. But this is the

958
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that I do make in the book

959
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: that makes you know, like you know, you's totally fine,

960
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: It's totally and it's healthy. But where do I so

961
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: in this dish would there be a protein element?

962
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: Though?

963
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the this is protein. It's not as high,

964
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: but there is protein in it. And of course you

965
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: have the shells of course you have like this, there

966
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: is protein in this, and this is nothing. I was

967
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: actually talking to my fiance about this. It's a lot

968
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 2: of people feel like they're looking for protein in vegan dishes, right,

969
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 2: like where's the protein 's protein? There's protein in all

970
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: types of things like beans have protein, rice has protein.

971
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: Even vegetables have protein in them. If you are not

972
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: actively looking to be a bodybuilder, you do not need

973
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty grams of protein a day.

974
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 3: You know, you just need to have a balanced meal.

975
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: This is balance.

976
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: It has carbs, it has protein, it has vegetables, it

977
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: has a little acidity to it.

978
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 3: It's a balanced meal. That's what you need, more.

979
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: Than you need sixty grams of protein in one dish

980
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: if you're not a bodybuilder.

981
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: You know.

982
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: So, since we're talking healthy wise, when you went from

983
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: well you started with the Daniels diet and yeah, you

984
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: nerved into vegan, what was like the immediate change? You

985
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: say you felt good and bad and when it came

986
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: to the transition.

987
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: Ooh, well good. Definitely have more energy.

988
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: Like I woke up and when I ate food, I

989
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: didn't feel as dense and heavy, like you know, there's

990
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: something that cheese does, and this makes you feel exhausted,

991
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: It makes you feel like you.

992
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: Know, you were taking nap. I didn't have that feeling anymore,

993
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: so I was grateful for that bad.

994
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: Hmm.

995
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 2: Well this is like not when I fully went vegan,

996
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: because I had a little stint in college where I

997
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna go vegan for a week or

998
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: something like that. I felt so tired then, Like I

999
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 2: told you how I feel fueled now right in again

1000
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: because I was actually eating balanced meals. But back then

1001
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: I really thought that all vegans it was solid.

1002
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: So I can get that.

1003
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: I understand. That's what I used to say to.

1004
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: My for home boys. Yeah, like I really thought vegans

1005
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 3: all they ate was salad.

1006
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: So I was literally just eating some lettuce and I

1007
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: felt so drained, and that was like the hardest, like

1008
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: I remember feeling that. So that's why I'm like, it's

1009
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: so important, that most important. Okay, you want to veganize

1010
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 2: your favorite dishes, don't try to be a vegan. Just

1011
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: think I love spaghetti. Okay, Now, what's a meat alternative

1012
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 2: that he's for spaghetti? Probably impossible, meat, probably beyond meat.

1013
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: If I don't feel comfortable using alternative meats. Okay, there's

1014
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: lentils that could use as well. Like do you know

1015
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: what I mean? Yeah, don't try to be a vegan,

1016
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: just be yourself. Yeah, and veganize your favorite dish, you

1017
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1018
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? We had a B Simone.

1019
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: On our show, and oh I love well, I love

1020
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: her podcast.

1021
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you be Simone shout outs to you,

1022
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: because I think I've never seen well, I didn't know

1023
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: her before, but I've never seen someone so focused on

1024
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: personal growth, Like she truly inspires me. And I actually

1025
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: was thinking she was going to be an asshole and

1026
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: she was completely nice. And she was like the one

1027
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: talent I had on the show where like, you know,

1028
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: trying to do her uber and I was responsible for

1029
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: like ordering the uber and Atlanta is so trickery. It's

1030
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: so trickery, and I just kept messing up her uber.

1031
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: I made her like an hour late. I mean, this

1032
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: girl like showed up. I was like, she's gonna be

1033
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: an assole, She's gonna be ashle, She's gonna be ashole,

1034
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: that's all. I kept think she's gonna be an asshole, and

1035
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: she was super sweet and super like nice. And then

1036
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: one of the things that she used to eat was spaghetti,

1037
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: and so obviously we're doing eating while broke, but she's

1038
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: a vegan now, uh huh, and so she's like, I'm

1039
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna do spaghetti with impossible me. Yeah, it was my

1040
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: first experience. Like I was like, does it turn round

1041
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: like you know? But we did it and it would

1042
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: taste it was It would taste it so good. And

1043
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: like you said, like you can totally take any broke,

1044
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: any dish and just make your favorite dish, and like

1045
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: that's exactly what she did. She just turned a regular

1046
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: dishes she ate when she was broken.

1047
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 2: And she instantly turned it into a vegan right there

1048
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: in front of my eyes.

1049
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: And that girl never cooks, and.

1050
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: She was like, I never cooked. I haven't cooked in

1051
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: a while. And she did it and it came out great.

1052
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: Shout outs to her and all her personal growth.

1053
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree to because I listened to her

1054
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: podcast and I'm like, wow, I'm very inspired.

1055
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: She goes deep, very I love vulnerability.

1056
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. And shout outs to her.

1057
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: Shout outs to you for coming on our show and

1058
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: being extremely transparent. And where can people get the Black

1059
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: and Vegan book?

1060
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh, you can go on Amazon, and you can go

1061
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: to books where books are sold near you, So you

1062
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: can go to Barnes and Noble, so that target and

1063
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Amazon as well Amazon and then on Amazon, Black and Vegan.

1064
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: You said you could get it at Barns and Noble

1065
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: and all of that.

1066
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: Check online, So go to Barnes and Noble online, see

1067
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: what's in your store.

1068
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: But if it's not, you can order through Barns and Noble.

1069
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Okay, So taking it back, we're gonna go over a

1070
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: little bit.

1071
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 3: How did you get that distribution? My well, my sorry,

1072
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: that's fine, but my publishing team got that from me.

1073
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, how did you even get to the public.

1074
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: They reached out to me, like I told you, like,

1075
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: this book opportunity came into my inbox through an email.

1076
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 2: I look at the the people paytreet. I looked them up.

1077
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: I said, this is real, So what's going on here?

1078
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: And I was like I took the first call and

1079
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: from there they have an entire team that engulfs you

1080
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: and takes care of you.

1081
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: And they got all that from me.

1082
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: So you were doing your thing, you were focused on

1083
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: your path, you were still in graduate school, yes, and

1084
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 1: you get you've been just getting like dms of opportunity.

1085
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: So God is definitely like like this is the path

1086
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: you're going, whether you like it or not. And so

1087
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: you get this opportunity and then you and ull like

1088
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 1: publishing and all the whole monster that's behind you. Now, yeah,

1089
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: that's amazing.

1090
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: It is amazing. It is amazing.

1091
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: How scary is it when you wake up in the morning,

1092
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Like how much like with that much I would say,

1093
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: like God's will or favor, I'm gonna say God's favor

1094
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: on it, Like do you still feel intimidated some days?

1095
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: Like do you still have that doubt even knowing that?

1096
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Are you tearing up? Don't tear out?

1097
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: I know, okay, I know, don't well, don't make me okay,

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Speaker 3: I can.

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Speaker 1: Cause that I would be curious. I'm curious just from

1100
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't get to see that much like God's

1101
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: favor all the time on projects. Every once in a

1102
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: while there's a glimmering of Pope, but like I feel

1103
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: like there's definitely God's favor. It is so like I'm curious,

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00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: like genuinely curious, Like do you still get self doubt

1105
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: with that much favor?

1106
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: Like with that many signs, are you still getting doubts.

1107
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: Yes and no.

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00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: There's some days I wake up I'm like, this is

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00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: exactly what I'm supposed to be doing. When I did

1110
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 2: this cookbook, it took three days to cook every single

1111
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: dish in the book. Three days, and you have to

1112
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: do it during sunlight, so that means for twenty four hours,

1113
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm barely getting sleep.

1114
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: But why did you have to do that?

1115
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 3: Because you need pictures for the book. You know you

1116
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: need pictures for the book.

1117
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: We got a small production window, and so like I

1118
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: was up for three days cleaning my kitchen, cooking every

1119
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: single dish, make sure it look perfect, taking pictures of it,

1120
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: going back to the kitchen, cooking again, and I remember, you.

1121
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Have to like get a special lighting thing or.

1122
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Yah, well we got we got a photographer. Okay, yeah

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00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: it's Monica. Shout out to Monica. Monica, you are amazing.

1124
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, Monica, she had all the lightings.

1125
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: She set it up.

1126
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: And this is another thing God's favorite. I feel like

1127
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: God He's bringing great people into my life.

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00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: So she was.

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00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: It was a production. But as you know, your feet

1130
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: your cause.

1131
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: So you're cooking for twenty four hours and she's shooting

1132
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: while you're yesing yes, oh my goodness, yes, every single

1133
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: dish in the book.

1134
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 3: So it was a lot. But I remember I woke

1135
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 3: up on that third day.

1136
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: Okay, not gonna make me cry, Okay, cry away, But

1137
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: I woke on the third day and I never felt

1138
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: so much more energy and it's so excited. And that's

1139
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: when I knew, like, this is what I'm supposed to

1140
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 2: do because I've worked so many jobs, doing two.

1141
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: Hours of work.

1142
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: You like, I'm beat.

1143
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 2: I do not want to do this anymore. But that

1144
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: was like, I'm so excited to wake up and do this.

1145
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: And then when you first saw where were You're like,

1146
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: oh my gosh.

1147
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: Well I thought I was gonna well, first I want

1148
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: to I cry. This is a tip. I go like

1149
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: this it helps, so you don't let it run down it.

1150
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 3: But I thought I was gonna cry, but I didn't.

1151
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: But I cried when I opened it and I read

1152
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: my forward, okay, because I was like, oh, this is

1153
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: the book.

1154
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 3: Then open it. I read the forward and.

1155
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: I was like, because if you know anything about me,

1156
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: it's it's dedicated to my mother.

1157
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so did your mom see it? Was?

1158
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 4: She?

1159
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: No? Okay?

1160
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 3: My well yeah, okay, yeah.

1161
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I was a ear that was an ear.

1162
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, no, it's okay.

1163
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: But that's why this book is dedicated to her, because okay,

1164
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to cry too much.

1165
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: And it's okay, broke, this is this is where you're

1166
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: supposed to cry. Plenty of people have cried here, thank.

1167
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: God, But like it's dedicated to her because she never

1168
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 2: got to try it anything.

1169
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay.

1170
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: Dish, So it's like this is for her, got it?

1171
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, that means a lot to me.

1172
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

1173
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 3: That's why I was crying during the excerpt or the forwards. Yeah,

1174
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: the rule.

1175
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: There was this girl on our show. Her name was

1176
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Angel Rich and I remember an article came out and

1177
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: fortunate about her being like the next Steve Jobs. This

1178
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: was like five or seven years ago, and I saw

1179
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: it and I was like, oh, that's interesting, Steve Jobs,

1180
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: a black girl getting compared to Steve Jobs. So I

1181
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: followed her for like years, and I just was curious, like,

1182
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,479
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I idolized Steve Jobs for so long.

1183
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I read his book and then I was like,

1184
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: there's some hidden characteristics that I don't necessarily admire morally,

1185
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: but you know, but he had a lot of good qualities.

1186
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: But anyways, I was following her on like Facebook one

1187
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: day and she's like, I went to the bank and

1188
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: it was like thirty thousand dollars on my account. And

1189
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, what went wrong? So she

1190
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 1: goes to the teller like, Yo, this money ain't my money,

1191
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: and the teller is like, yeah, it is. You know.

1192
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: She's like it says it's deposited from like Amazon or

1193
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: something or someone. And it turned out she had released

1194
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: the book and money just went straight to her account

1195
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: and she you know, it was like the something black

1196
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: dollar or something. But anyways, I can't wait to hear

1197
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: a story like that from you where it's like fiance

1198
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: wedding paid for the book. Yeah, so thank you so

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00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: much for coming on our show. And look, she has

1200
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: a copy of her book, Black and Vegan, which, by

1201
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: the way, I did skim through. Not only is the

1202
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: texture like very.

1203
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: Yummy, it is very soft outside.

1204
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: It's a very beautiful cookbook. I did skim through it.

1205
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: It is it's got everything from breakfast to snacks, to

1206
00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: like smoothies to like salads to the ribs get rid

1207
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: of guys, which I think I'm gonna try and get

1208
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: her to like, I'm gonna try and do like we're

1209
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna do a cook off some seriously, you're gonna walk

1210
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: me through it. Yeah, and we're gonna do this this

1211
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: vegan ribs because it's a thing. Honestly, we probably would

1212
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: have done it on the show, but it would have

1213
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 1: taken away too.

1214
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: It takes too long. But it's how long does it

1215
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,280
Speaker 3: take to make this dish?

1216
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: I think like what like hour and ten minutes?

1217
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1218
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Our ten?

1219
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: Maybe two because we have to put it in the oven.

1220
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 3: Let it cook, let it get.

1221
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: A little hard.

1222
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

1223
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: Everything in this book looks delicious, And you guys could

1224
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: get it on Amazon where else Barnes and Noble, Amazon,

1225
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: Barns and Noble Target, you guys go out and get

1226
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: it today.

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00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: Okay, so definitely check it out.

1228
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Support support support support tofu. Oh there is tofu in

1229
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: the book. You guys know how much little bacon bit

1230
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna see. We're gonna see. But anyways, check it out.

1231
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: Black and Vegan, thank you so much, Amani than coming

1232
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: and spending time with us, and guys, if you want

1233
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: to try these tacos, it's like probably than ten Bucks,

1234
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: and you guys could feed a family of four.

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00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, piece bye.

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00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect,

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00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows,