Speaker 1: It's one seventeen am in your subconscious and you're listening
Speaker 1: to Night Call. Hello, and welcome back to Night Call,
Speaker 1: a call in show for our dystopian reality. I am
Speaker 1: in l A. I am Tess Lynch, and with me
Speaker 1: are Molly Lambert and Emily Oshida. Today we are going
Speaker 1: to be taking some calls and emails about dreams about pyramids.
Speaker 1: But first let's check in. We are recording on Friday.
Speaker 1: The election has not been called. Maybe by the time
Speaker 1: this is released it will have been. How are you
Speaker 1: guys feeling we should be super specific? We are. We're
Speaker 1: recording it Friday is now ten fifty seven am, specific time,
Speaker 1: because who knows what could happen in the rest of Friday.
Speaker 1: Friday could be an interesting day. You never know. It
Speaker 1: feels like there's three more plot twists. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be tons of recounts at this point.
Speaker 1: At looks like or at least one in Georgia probably
Speaker 1: and possibly in Pennsylvania. But I guess we'll see how
Speaker 1: that shakes out. It's just been we've been living in
Speaker 1: a real liminal state for the last few days, and
Speaker 1: I think it's making everybody a little bit crazy right now.
Speaker 1: We were in a liminal state already, so this is
Speaker 1: like a liminal state inside a liminal state. Yeah, real,
Speaker 1: real tenant ours, this is we didn't need to see
Speaker 1: tenant in theaters. We're living it. Emily, you had champagne
Speaker 1: that is waiting or waiting to not be uncorked. This is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my one act of of I guess optimism.
Speaker 1: Even though you know, I could go on and on
Speaker 1: forever about how I'm feeling a very like unsatisfactory, like
Speaker 1: it's not fun, but I do feel a degree of
Speaker 1: indication about how close this ended up being, just because
Speaker 1: of how many people yelled at me about like how
Speaker 1: I was being overly pessimistic about Joe Biden's chances of
Speaker 1: being president because like the pool he's ahead so far
Speaker 1: in the pools and Wisconsin stuff, and I was like, guys,
Speaker 1: why are you looking at polls like we've done this already.
Speaker 1: But I digress. I could, I could, I could yell
Speaker 1: forever about that, but yeah, I did buy a bottle
Speaker 1: of champagne on election day or it's prosecco but whatever,
Speaker 1: same effect, um, And I wasn't gonna spend that much
Speaker 1: money on a Biden presidency honestly, Um, but you know,
Speaker 1: just to have the back of the fridge just in case,
Speaker 1: just in case there's a more like an end of
Speaker 1: presidency too, to celebrate real that austerity. Champagne socialism, yeah,
Speaker 1: prosecco socialism, prossecco socialisms. Okay, Yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 1: it's very strange, obviously everybody kind of feels this way
Speaker 1: to keep yourself from having feelings as you watch something
Speaker 1: that affects you so much. I mean on election night, Um,
Speaker 1: I started it to watch and then got deja vu.
Speaker 1: I was like, why am I putting myself through this?
Speaker 1: Like we won't know tonight. I don't want to have
Speaker 1: that like horrible dip into anxiety and despair and then
Speaker 1: the slow climb back up to like maybe it's okay.
Speaker 1: So I went to bed at like ten, very well rested,
Speaker 1: and it's been happening again and again where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I could stay up and watch this play out, but
Speaker 1: I would really love to just not do that and
Speaker 1: just hope it plays out in our favor. Um, last time,
Speaker 1: four years ago, I made like a huge dinner. I
Speaker 1: maybe even talked about this in the podcast before. But
Speaker 1: I just I made a roast chicken and like all
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and then I threw it in the
Speaker 1: trash when the polls changed, and then I was like
Speaker 1: so upset with myself because I was like, you should
Speaker 1: have just saved the chick, and it became like an
Speaker 1: even a compounding thing of like, oh, I was so
Speaker 1: self indulgent. It's just whatever, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: a great New Yorker short story exactly. Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: roast chicken in the trash. I like wanted to go
Speaker 1: to bed at like six pm, for sure and just
Speaker 1: go into a value of the dolls uh medically induced
Speaker 1: coma for a couple of weeks and come out the
Speaker 1: other side. But that wasn't an option. So I ended
Speaker 1: up going over to a friend's yard and seeing a
Speaker 1: few friends and hanging out together. And that was actually
Speaker 1: the best thing I could have possibly done. I know
Speaker 1: it's not an option for everybody, but just like being
Speaker 1: around other people who are not that excited about a
Speaker 1: Joe Biden presidency, but are you know, nonetheless hopeful for
Speaker 1: a not Trump presidency. I'm not even gonna say that
Speaker 1: I'm not excited for a Joe Biden presidency, just because
Speaker 1: I want to get out of this situation so badly
Speaker 1: that I can't even take any pleasure in like rehashing
Speaker 1: all of the feelings I had during the primary. I
Speaker 1: think it's like we have to kind of get over it.
Speaker 1: And I just feel everybody kind of like way eating
Speaker 1: on on this precipice, being like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say any shit about Joe Biden. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: say any about Joe by as soon as they call
Speaker 1: it for him, or you know, maybe as soon as
Speaker 1: he's actually inaugurated. We'll see how the next few months go.
Speaker 1: As far as calling the presidency, I think it's okay
Speaker 1: whatever happens. But I'm just saying like, once it's certain
Speaker 1: that he's going to be our president, if it's certain,
Speaker 1: that's when you just let it all, let it all
Speaker 1: out and be like, Okay, you motherfucker, you are accountable
Speaker 1: to us. He helped you get this stupid job. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's fine to do that now, because I
Speaker 1: feel like anything else is like too superstitious of like
Speaker 1: we can't say anything bad or it'll it'll flip back
Speaker 1: the other way. I do think that it was crazy
Speaker 1: to see the news channels be like we can cut
Speaker 1: Trump's mike. That was the most Bonker's part of yesterday
Speaker 1: to me, um was they all cut his mic during
Speaker 1: the speech because he was saying stuff that's not true
Speaker 1: and realize like they could have done this time, but
Speaker 1: they didn't because they wanted access or ratings or whatever.
Speaker 1: So it's like to say, it's like a bigger version
Speaker 1: of like people you know, turning on high Vey Weinstein
Speaker 1: or something. Once he's like no longer that powerful. It's
Speaker 1: like once the tide starts to turn and and somebody
Speaker 1: doesn't hold this way that they have, and you can
Speaker 1: undermine them in a way that feels more just. There
Speaker 1: was a story about Trump calling Rupert Murdoch because Fox
Speaker 1: called Arizona for Biden and not everybody did, but the
Speaker 1: ape he did, and AP and Fox News did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so now people think that Fox might call it
Speaker 1: first because they're just like showing Trump that like they
Speaker 1: have more power than him, they are more important than him,
Speaker 1: which is true, but also it makes me get scared
Speaker 1: about the like super soldier racist Nazi man they're gonna
Speaker 1: or women they're gonna come out with for the selection
Speaker 1: imagine Trump but like competent and like with the facade
Speaker 1: of like a politician would be terrifying. Yeah, Like, in
Speaker 1: many ways Trump is not at all the ideal figurehead
Speaker 1: for this model of Republicanism. And it's like kind of
Speaker 1: been the only thing that's kept King from yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's not a true believer. He like doesn't believe any
Speaker 1: of the stuff I think. Um, not that the other
Speaker 1: aren't hypocrites, but like I for sure don't think he
Speaker 1: actually is pro life. He like clearly isn't a religious person.
Speaker 1: You know. There's a bunch of things. And also like
Speaker 1: I'm afraid for the like everyone being ready to make
Speaker 1: just make him into a clown man, a George W.
Speaker 1: Bush like harmless clown man when he's not president anymore.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I think that will happen. I
Speaker 1: don't either. I think the reason that George W. Bush
Speaker 1: is able to be a toothless clown man now, um
Speaker 1: and people seem to have this collective amnesia about how
Speaker 1: truly damaging and evil his uh presidency was is just
Speaker 1: because there wasn't the same day to day um interfacing
Speaker 1: with it that we have now like every single day
Speaker 1: if you're at all paying attention to any uh current events,
Speaker 1: and not even necessarily on social media, although that's the
Speaker 1: way that most people are experiencing it. Like it's just
Speaker 1: like having like just be having your head and advice
Speaker 1: for the last four years. And I think that that
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about like how that's going
Speaker 1: to affect our generation and the younger generation going forward.
Speaker 1: Like this, this this version of reality that we've been
Speaker 1: living in, unless it just gets worse, whish it could?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, speaking of weird versions of reality, uh
Speaker 1: Emily shared with us very very disturbing TikTok. I mean
Speaker 1: it's one. It's one thing when you like are looking
Speaker 1: around on Twitter on election I perhaps despite your better judgment,
Speaker 1: and and going down threads of protoon people or whatever
Speaker 1: boughts and all of the above, and just seeing you know,
Speaker 1: the maga rhetoric which we've all become so familiar with
Speaker 1: up until now now mixed with like this sort of
Speaker 1: delegitimizing the election. But like I stumbled in a to
Speaker 1: a completely other wing of weird right wingy conservative like
Speaker 1: semi magical thinking religious Twitter, it's right wing, it's right
Speaker 1: wing drama kid yeah, it's like Christian drama kid Twitter.
Speaker 1: Why do you explain what it is? And then we'll
Speaker 1: talk about our reactions to it? Okay, So I and
Speaker 1: the context in which I found this was that it
Speaker 1: was retweeted by Perfume Genius, who I follow great follow also,
Speaker 1: but he retreeted um Andrea Russet, who I guess it's
Speaker 1: like an artist, like a music artist. Um, she's got
Speaker 1: seven point one million followers, so obviously I'm too old
Speaker 1: to know who she is, but my mutual follows are
Speaker 1: include Marshmallow and um. Yeah. Anyway, she retreated this saying
Speaker 1: this this this clip of a TikTok saying, how the
Speaker 1: funk is this real? Um? And this is a TikTok
Speaker 1: from a user that goes by It's Taylor Rousseau and
Speaker 1: it's this incredibly dramatic complete with visual effects, makeup and
Speaker 1: a sound, a very dramatic soundtrack of some kind of
Speaker 1: like very brooding Christian rock. It seems like of her
Speaker 1: enacting in this scenario in which she's being asked to
Speaker 1: bye bye, I guess by the Joe Biden Police State
Speaker 1: to get a a chip implanted in her arm that
Speaker 1: will protect her from covid um, but her knowing that
Speaker 1: this is the mark of the beast as we all
Speaker 1: know obviously of accident, that's going to be the mark
Speaker 1: of the beast. Um, she resisted and is killed um
Speaker 1: by the bidens state for her resistance. And but then
Speaker 1: she goes to heaven and is uh is blessed by
Speaker 1: God for you know, doing the right thing in her
Speaker 1: life on earth. Um. It ends with her in heaven,
Speaker 1: but she also gets like punched by like off screen,
Speaker 1: Like so it's all on this girl's face and so
Speaker 1: it's like her doing this acting and like it's subtitled,
Speaker 1: but she's like lip sinking to the song and getting
Speaker 1: like punched by somebody off screen and blood is coming
Speaker 1: down her face and she's all bruised up because she's
Speaker 1: refusing to get the vaccine. It's like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like the ultimate like stop hitting yourself, like of like
Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy type stuff. It's like it's like truly
Speaker 1: like punching yourself in the face to own the lips
Speaker 1: or something. Um, but like highly dramatized. It's wild. And
Speaker 1: this was posted by Andrew Arrusset and the responses are
Speaker 1: shockingly in support of this narrative um and kind of saying,
Speaker 1: how could you make fun of this this woman's religious beliefs.
Speaker 1: Also we all know that like the vaccine is the
Speaker 1: mark of the beasts, and she has a point and
Speaker 1: you should. People need to be more aware of this.
Speaker 1: And I'll make fun of Taylor Rosseau for this video,
Speaker 1: which just sent me down a wormle. Yeah, that's pretty
Speaker 1: emblematic of a lot of the realizations over the past
Speaker 1: few days in terms of how many people believe crazy,
Speaker 1: awful shit. I will say that I've seen a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff. I only see TikTok through Twitter because we
Speaker 1: are on TikTok. Could be if from the Nightcall Hive
Speaker 1: demands it, but it seems just like overwhelming to me. Still,
Speaker 1: I like having it like curated to me by Twitter
Speaker 1: get the greatest hits. But I've seen all these things
Speaker 1: that are like really theater kitty people doing fake scenarios.
Speaker 1: It's like they're making up dystopian novels and doing acting
Speaker 1: it out. So that's what I thought this was. At first.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was religious. I thought it was
Speaker 1: but it is that it's but it's based on a
Speaker 1: real conspiracy. Did you guys see, there's like this Michael
Speaker 1: Bay produced movie coming to Netflix soon that is basically Songbird,
Speaker 1: Songbird about It takes place in like the world where
Speaker 1: there's COVID twenty nine or something. It's like the COVID
Speaker 1: has gone up to COVID fifty. He described it as
Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet but set in a pandemic and it's like,
Speaker 1: it's a love story, guys. It's hot. Archy is starchee
Speaker 1: in it. Oh my god. The people who set out
Speaker 1: the stream to pirate that are doing the lord's work.
Speaker 1: Because I was like, I want to be able to
Speaker 1: dunk on this having seen it, but I refused to
Speaker 1: spend a red scent on watching it. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a Netflix movie, I think, Oh is it? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: because they were shooting it now and there was a
Speaker 1: do not work order that the union put out because
Speaker 1: they were not i think, observing UM correct protocols for
Speaker 1: cod I'm shocked that this libertarian movie that's all about
Speaker 1: the big government coming to get you and force you
Speaker 1: to take the vaccine, the chip vaccine or whatever wouldn't
Speaker 1: obey a union protocol. Yeah, shocking. It's kind of Taylor
Speaker 1: made like for I don't know, like hunger games fans
Speaker 1: or something, because it's just like, like, what could be
Speaker 1: more ominous than the government putting a chip in you? Uh.
Speaker 1: The whole six six six thing though, is sort of
Speaker 1: like maybe be on my pay grade. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: some revelationship. But like I don't I've been trying to
Speaker 1: read some blogs, and most, like I will say, to
Speaker 1: the credit of a lot of like like Christian blogs
Speaker 1: and stuff and like and like academic some like vaguely
Speaker 1: academic blogs that have been looking at most of them
Speaker 1: are like dispelling this. Um. They're just saying there's nothing,
Speaker 1: there's nothing here. But it's some people are saying that
Speaker 1: this got started with um Kanye West talking about the
Speaker 1: vaccine and and you know, supposing that their why be
Speaker 1: aship that they would put in people's arms, and that
Speaker 1: it would be like them, you know, it would be
Speaker 1: like a mark of evil. And I just think all
Speaker 1: these all these things line up is like fundies and
Speaker 1: um people that don't want big government involved in their
Speaker 1: lives in any way, even when they would be helping you.
Speaker 1: The acting out of the persecution is just so wild
Speaker 1: to me. And I think we like see this, so
Speaker 1: wait times, we're going to see so much more of it,
Speaker 1: especially like if if if the election is called for
Speaker 1: Biden raises why people think they're being persecuted. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: really believe this, and their their speech is always under threat.
Speaker 1: Um when you know, right, obviously this is not the
Speaker 1: case because we hear from them all the time, right.
Speaker 1: And it's also like it's not just on the right,
Speaker 1: Like obviously there's like you know centrists who are like,
Speaker 1: we're being person you know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that are pushing back against progress in various ways or
Speaker 1: being like let's keep it room temperature, folks, which is
Speaker 1: like nothing is ever going to be room temperature again,
Speaker 1: so we gotta go with that instead. Um. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like people always think it's the end of the
Speaker 1: world though, right, I think with more frequency lately, and
Speaker 1: I think with good reason, but a lot of hard
Speaker 1: evidence to support that one as opposed to the COVID
Speaker 1: beast beast conspiracy beast chip. Can't these people find out
Speaker 1: about like Prop twenty two and be like it's a
Speaker 1: conspiracy to like turn workers into machines. That would have
Speaker 1: been the perfect way to direct conspiracy theory energy. It
Speaker 1: was such a lost opportunity, you know, because it's you know,
Speaker 1: when people would point out, like follow the money on
Speaker 1: Prop twenty two, people were convinced it was just that,
Speaker 1: like the ad campaign was too overwhelming, and you know,
Speaker 1: some people just fell for it. But that's also l
Speaker 1: A prop uh California props. So prop talk prop Talk,
Speaker 1: that's a bonus episode. Yes, exactly, that's the l A
Speaker 1: podcast crossover episode. Exactly, Hot prop Talk. We should take
Speaker 1: a break and then when we come back, we will
Speaker 1: have some pyramid pals and dreams. Let's take a nightcall
Speaker 1: about pyramids in Brazil. Timn call. This is Rebecca. It's
Speaker 1: three twenty in some follow Brazil. I'm calling above a
Speaker 1: cult but also pyramids. So um, this is my second
Speaker 1: voice mail because the other one was too long, So
Speaker 1: I'll just say that the planned city brasil Ya, which
Speaker 1: is the cap of Brazil, planned by of Kinye and Meyer,
Speaker 1: the modernist architect has always been intriguing to me because
Speaker 1: I think it's beautiful, but some people say there's some
Speaker 1: weird energy around it because it's made of concrete. In
Speaker 1: all buildings have some sort of triangle base and the
Speaker 1: entire city is planned to be without any corners, so
Speaker 1: everything is kind of rounded, and if you look from above,
Speaker 1: it's shaped as an airplane. So all of this is
Speaker 1: alrighty creepy. But I was browsing the International Film Festival
Speaker 1: of from Polo Catawang and I found a documentary that
Speaker 1: is about spirituality around some around Brazilian and I found
Speaker 1: out about this cult called Down Valley and it's really fascinating.
Speaker 1: It was founded by a medium in this n Sason.
Speaker 1: She was called Tiernava and the call is a mix
Speaker 1: of spirituality and Egyptian religion like deities. And I don't
Speaker 1: know much about it. I'm singing it the English uh
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page for it. I found it fascinating. The where
Speaker 1: like very very colorful clothes and they do kind of
Speaker 1: like um, say, carreographs ritual. I really think you guys
Speaker 1: should look into it. I hope you have a good night.
Speaker 1: By thank you for that night call all the way
Speaker 1: from Brazil. That was very exciting. It's always really fun
Speaker 1: to hear from our our listeners who are not neighbors
Speaker 1: and then call come to Brazil. We came to Brazil.
Speaker 1: I am looking at a National Geographic article about this
Speaker 1: about don Valley this cult. Um. I weirdly know a
Speaker 1: lot about Brazilia because I had a boyfriend who was
Speaker 1: really obsessed with it because it is so weird and
Speaker 1: it is very beautiful. Brazilia looks rad and it is
Speaker 1: also very scary. Yeah, he ended up going there. Eventually,
Speaker 1: he made a pilgrimage to Brazilia. UM And apparently now
Speaker 1: it is we heard or not weird. I mean dystopian
Speaker 1: in the way that everything is dystopian in that it's
Speaker 1: like this dream city, but it's kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: become less shiny as time has passed. And I believe
Speaker 1: they have a homelessness epidemic in Brazil as they do
Speaker 1: everywhere else. So there are I think encampments like around
Speaker 1: some of these crazy buildings, which you know, just that
Speaker 1: kind of thing, like in downtown l A, where there's
Speaker 1: like these huge, you know, modern towers and nobody living
Speaker 1: in them and then people living on the streets below them.
Speaker 1: It's just, uh feels very dystopian, uh futuristic, blade runnery.
Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised that new age people also are
Speaker 1: into this city because it has no corners, but it
Speaker 1: just fits in with our general um buildings in more
Speaker 1: interesting shapes than squares are deep dive into the overlooked
Speaker 1: bill things in other shapes than squares. Pyramid Palace has
Speaker 1: been a huge hit, and we had no idea when
Speaker 1: we started, but we've all had like a lifelong interest
Speaker 1: in pyramids. I wanted to be an Egyptologist for a while. Um.
Speaker 1: I took in egyptology class in college that was so
Speaker 1: interesting that I, um almost failed. I had to drop. Well,
Speaker 1: it was so interesting that you almost failed, Yes, because
Speaker 1: like I don't have a brain for dates at all
Speaker 1: or maps, so I kept like failing all the quizzes
Speaker 1: because they were like, what, you know, draw a map
Speaker 1: of Egypt in the year, in this year, this era,
Speaker 1: you know, and I could not do that. But everything
Speaker 1: I learned in the class was like incredibly fascinating. And
Speaker 1: it also ended up being about the history of Egyptology
Speaker 1: and you know, sort of the great era of looting
Speaker 1: by the British Museum and like what's happening now with
Speaker 1: that stuff, for artifacts are being repatriated back to where
Speaker 1: they belong in Egypt. Yeah, um, well, just to get
Speaker 1: back to the Valley of the Don for a bit.
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend looking this up just strictly for
Speaker 1: like style points, because the outfits that the practitioners wear
Speaker 1: when they're doing their ceremonies are like very rare. They
Speaker 1: look very much like costumes from a Yodorowski film or
Speaker 1: something very like colorful, blocky, kind of like god spellish.
Speaker 1: That's also what Brazilia feels like to me. It just
Speaker 1: feels like, yeah, like it's built to be the backdrop,
Speaker 1: like like alphabel. Yeah, and their beliefs seem very complicated,
Speaker 1: but one of them, I I like the kind of
Speaker 1: um balancing out of of of a cult to beliefs
Speaker 1: that rather than say, Egypt being built by Aliens, which
Speaker 1: as we've I think discussed, is basically racist, uh, as
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist conspiracy theories go, uh, they just believe
Speaker 1: that Jesus was an alien, which I'm into that one.
Speaker 1: I'm super into that. There's a lot of Jesus is
Speaker 1: an alien And somebody else wrote about the re aliens
Speaker 1: and we'll get into them sometime soon, but I totally
Speaker 1: get down with the Jesus was an alien. That makes
Speaker 1: Jesus makes so much sense. Yeah, he's just Superman then,
Speaker 1: which is fine. Like that that all that's like the
Speaker 1: joining of of of superhero weirdness and religious weirdness. That
Speaker 1: just yeah to taste that taste fine together. Yeah, please
Speaker 1: look up the Temple of Dawn Valley because it is
Speaker 1: also very Yodorowski. It is a colorful labyrinth. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: colors are great, like because Brazili. It is also pretty
Speaker 1: like monochrome, um, which is like one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I think it looks so pretty, especially now that it's
Speaker 1: getting old and like something. They're like cracks and a
Speaker 1: lot of the concrete structures and like moss and kind
Speaker 1: of where on them. Like I think it looks really
Speaker 1: it's it's aging very well, um from a purely aesthetic standpoint. Um.
Speaker 1: But the Don Valley stuff is like mega color pops,
Speaker 1: like just very polyphonic spree. Uh. Yeah. And this religion
Speaker 1: was started in nineteen sixty nine and you can tell
Speaker 1: that's where it stays. And I like that it was
Speaker 1: started by Tianieva, was an ex truck driver. That's how
Speaker 1: shoes described really nice hot tip on the Pyramid Palace.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for that. Yeah. Um. We also
Speaker 1: have another We have a voice memo from Patrick high
Speaker 1: Night call. This is Patrick in Salt Lake City, And
Speaker 1: did it tell you about another pyramid, the Some of
Speaker 1: Them Temple here in Salt Lake. It's located right in
Speaker 1: the middle of a normal neighborhood. It's about a forty
Speaker 1: ft wide pyramid. I think it's about twenty five ft tall.
Speaker 1: It's built by the sum Them, which is a I'll
Speaker 1: use the term new religious movement, which is heavily influenced
Speaker 1: by ancient Egyptian aesthetics. Unlike most pyramids these days, this
Speaker 1: one actually has mummies in it. Some of Them's founder
Speaker 1: was mummified and placed into a gold leaf start caphagus,
Speaker 1: and a handful of cats, dogs, and other animals have
Speaker 1: also been mummified and encased in a bronze sculpture. Some
Speaker 1: of them offers this service mummification to human and animal
Speaker 1: customers alike. If you are ever in the market, if
Speaker 1: you ever want to get lost down a very nightcall
Speaker 1: rabbit Hole. Check out some of Them's website at some
Speaker 1: of them dot us s U M m U M.
Speaker 1: There's ures of the mummies, including the animals, and including
Speaker 1: the process. Nothing too gruesome, but they do show the
Speaker 1: animals wrapped in bandages and and getting ready to go
Speaker 1: into a bronze sculpture. So it's pretty interesting. Boy, fascinating.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this before in my life. I
Speaker 1: definitely have come across this before on my Wikipedia travel
Speaker 1: through the pyramid section and maybe the new religious section. Um.
Speaker 1: Super fascinating. Also fascinating that it's Salt Lake City based,
Speaker 1: because you know, Mormonism is essentially a new religious movement.
Speaker 1: It is much less old than people think it is.
Speaker 1: And when you go into the actual teachings of Joseph
Speaker 1: Smith and stuff, it is all like, incredibly nutty and
Speaker 1: involves like a lizard coming and talking to him on
Speaker 1: his window sill. So um, great promo for the real
Speaker 1: housewives of Salt Lake City. I'm curious what it is
Speaker 1: about Salt Lake City. Patrick included some pictures from the website,
Speaker 1: and there's a picture his caption is inside the pyramid,
Speaker 1: it looks like your aunt's living room circ except that
Speaker 1: there are human and animal mummies inside of those sarcopha guy,
Speaker 1: it is the strangest mix of like aesthetics I've seen.
Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, would you want to be mummified?
Speaker 1: Sure you would, I don't know. I mean, it's takes
Speaker 1: up an awfu lot of room, but it seems more
Speaker 1: problem ecologically sound than like modern traditional burial, like just
Speaker 1: you know, let a lot of bandages do the work
Speaker 1: of all those chemicals or something. It could be cool
Speaker 1: to be a mummy. I don't know, but you guys,
Speaker 1: I would do the mushroom suit. If I were mummified.
Speaker 1: I would not want to be stored at the Summum
Speaker 1: the Summum Temple. I believe their Their website is definitely
Speaker 1: worth a look. I took a cool art class when
Speaker 1: I was a kid um where we made little Egyptian
Speaker 1: tombs and we made little clay mummies and bandage them
Speaker 1: and then put them in a little made little sarcophag
Speaker 1: eye for them. I just don't trust this sum them
Speaker 1: organization undane like on top of their body preservation tech,
Speaker 1: like it all looks a little bit JANKI Well, it
Speaker 1: feels like the cryogenically freezing people a little bit too.
Speaker 1: It does feel like there's something very like seventies Altered
Speaker 1: States about it. Well, it's it has a d i
Speaker 1: y vibe. That's the the off putting thing. And and
Speaker 1: you know how sometimes like I don't know, you can
Speaker 1: judge an organization by whether or not you feel like
Speaker 1: they have the means and technology to make an air
Speaker 1: tight chamber. Um, that's like something I always think about.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I like religions. Can they make an eartight
Speaker 1: chamber or not? I don't think that they can. I
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be some unpleasantness with this
Speaker 1: body at some point down the line for them, uh
Speaker 1: being mummified in their temple. Okay, but if they're using
Speaker 1: like ancient mummification techniques like those do work, but are
Speaker 1: they I don't trust them to be on That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't think that they're doing it right. Also,
Speaker 1: their their pyramid looks like a storage container. Like the
Speaker 1: only thing that makes it not look like like an
Speaker 1: extra space storage facility is that it's a pyramid. Other
Speaker 1: than that, it just looks like, yeah, where you would
Speaker 1: keep your records or something, or or your mummies or
Speaker 1: your relatives and pets like some mums. Some mummies. I
Speaker 1: think that's what it is, right, some mums. We cracked it.
Speaker 1: So aside from pyramids, we have been putting out for
Speaker 1: your dreams. We wanted to hear about your dreams and
Speaker 1: your you know all matters of your subconscious. Just felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, as we near the end of a super
Speaker 1: surreal year, why not take a full bath in the subconscious.
Speaker 1: And we got some great ones from you, some so far,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna do a little dream mail. Um. But
Speaker 1: this first email comes from JP, who says I'm responding
Speaker 1: to your call for prophetic dreams. It happened about five
Speaker 1: or six years ago, and I've only ever told a
Speaker 1: few people. I remember being taken by someone to a
Speaker 1: high cliff across from a tall bear mountain. Suddenly lightning
Speaker 1: shot out of the great clouds, striking the rock face
Speaker 1: in an explosion of fire and smoke. As the dust
Speaker 1: plumes settled, I saw a list of thirteen names, and
Speaker 1: I wept as I instantly and intuitively understood that these
Speaker 1: were the names of the thirteen families that secretly control
Speaker 1: the world. It was at that moment that I woke
Speaker 1: up not remembered a single one of them to this
Speaker 1: day of tribe and nothing has come to me. Oh well,
Speaker 1: this is just car This is a great dream. You
Speaker 1: gotta remember. You gotta do some hypnosis and figure out
Speaker 1: what those names are. Definitely, uh yeah, I I think
Speaker 1: this sounds close to like some of the bad conspiracy
Speaker 1: theory things of the Thirteen Families who control the world.
Speaker 1: But I just really like the idea of like being
Speaker 1: in a dream and there's an explosion and then these
Speaker 1: names appear before you, when you just break down into
Speaker 1: sobs because you're just like it's important. Yeah. It just
Speaker 1: makes me think about in Boogie Nights when Dirk has
Speaker 1: the dream or his name reveals itself in Neon Yes
Speaker 1: with an explosion. Well, this also makes me think of
Speaker 1: the UM. I think it's more or less true. But
Speaker 1: like all dream things, it's like it's never a science,
Speaker 1: so you don't really know. But this idea that like
Speaker 1: you can't read anything in a dream, you can't remember
Speaker 1: anything you read, yeah, which I think mostly just means
Speaker 1: you can't read anything in dream, which is very strange.
Speaker 1: I would love to have somebody come on and explain
Speaker 1: that for us, Like why does written language not make
Speaker 1: it through? I don't know. Do you remember seeing billboards
Speaker 1: before you could read, yes, and being like those are
Speaker 1: like you know someday what that means? I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like that I remember feeling like I could read
Speaker 1: long before I could so I think I was just
Speaker 1: like looking at words and making up what they meant,
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's the thing that kids do a lot.
Speaker 1: They quote unquote read a book um, which is always
Speaker 1: very adorable. Uh yeah, no, the reading things, like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you were to get some kind of cryptic prophetic
Speaker 1: prophetic prophecy uh in a dream, like doing it and
Speaker 1: writing feels like the most obscured way to get it,
Speaker 1: Like how would you you would have to hear the
Speaker 1: voice of something. I feel like sounds make it through
Speaker 1: really well. The idea of it being writing though, so
Speaker 1: interesting because of the idea of like language being this
Speaker 1: great evolutionary leap for word that you know, goes back
Speaker 1: to apes and and came to us. Because I feel
Speaker 1: like even when you see it with children like my
Speaker 1: brother's kids now, it's like they make this leap all
Speaker 1: of a sudden where their brain can suddenly read and
Speaker 1: process language, and it's so crazy. So the idea that
Speaker 1: there's like the next level of that that the human
Speaker 1: brain can't reach yet but possibly could. I think the
Speaker 1: thirteen names can probably right and probably access that. If
Speaker 1: we could just read the thirteen names, then we would
Speaker 1: become like the super you know, we would reach them
Speaker 1: maybe and sixteenth names right here. One of them is Kardashian.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I think it's like Bezos. I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like it saw the Billionaires right. Um. I I
Speaker 1: would like to propose we take another night email about dreams. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to insist on reading this one because
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with it and it is about exploding head syndrome.
Speaker 1: This comes from Natalie High night Call, Long time, First time.
Speaker 1: I've recently learned that an occurrence I've had with my
Speaker 1: dreams the last couple of years has a really concerning
Speaker 1: name and is actually a diagnosable thing, exploding head syndrome.
Speaker 1: Exploding head syndrome is when you have auditory hallucinations while
Speaker 1: you are asleep. For me, they first manifested as dreams
Speaker 1: where someone would be knocking on my front door forcefully
Speaker 1: like a cop, and this would jolt me awake as
Speaker 1: I truly believed I heard knocking. I would then panic
Speaker 1: search my house to try to find the source. They
Speaker 1: occurred a few more times until I started to realize
Speaker 1: they weren't real. I have since had some that were
Speaker 1: just loud crashes or like something crushing inside my head
Speaker 1: like I was gnashing on rocks. They always wake me
Speaker 1: up and cause a panic response, as waking up to
Speaker 1: any sudden loud noise would. They first started after a
Speaker 1: vacation in Spain, when someone broke into our airbnb after
Speaker 1: knocking where I was alone taking a nap. So I
Speaker 1: initially thought they were a PTSD response, but in reading
Speaker 1: more about them, I think they might be more related
Speaker 1: to a head injury I sustained in a car accident
Speaker 1: the same year, or a stress or sponsor from either
Speaker 1: of those things. Who knows, but knowing they are a
Speaker 1: real thing that happens to other people too has helped
Speaker 1: in my panic response and seemed to calm them down. Day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exploding head syndrome, you guys, Have you guys ever experienced
Speaker 1: anything like that? No auditory hallucining I've had. I've had
Speaker 1: like some weird during migraines, I get an aura where
Speaker 1: I I can hear, but it's not when I'm asleep. Um,
Speaker 1: but I get like some auditory stuff and some visual
Speaker 1: stuff in like the aura, which is super scary when
Speaker 1: it first happened. Um, but I cannot imagine being I
Speaker 1: guess in a way, you know, after earthquakes. I feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes I have that jolted awake by like I
Speaker 1: think I hear some loud noise or I feel a
Speaker 1: jolt or something in your dreams, like when you're yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I get that one a lot, don't you
Speaker 1: like the following dream that ends with you like actually
Speaker 1: jolting in your bed exactly that kind of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And or a crash. I've heard like a crash where
Speaker 1: there was no crash and been like, oh, yeah, oh
Speaker 1: that's so weird. Yeah. I Also this reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of like brains apps. Um. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have ever had those and stuff. Those are
Speaker 1: the scariest because they don't warn you about them. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, I wrote a thing about it once about
Speaker 1: going through withdrawal and just yeah, and all these people
Speaker 1: were like, oh, I have that too. Uh. That's like
Speaker 1: the number one thing they should tell you when they
Speaker 1: put you on brain maps but they don't, is that
Speaker 1: your brain will do these little zapps. Um. I got
Speaker 1: those from shingles, by the way, and not from meds.
Speaker 1: But I had shingles when I was like super duper stressed,
Speaker 1: and it was right after i'd had a baby and
Speaker 1: I got shingles like on my neck and like it
Speaker 1: was really there. I guess it was like the nerves,
Speaker 1: the closer they are to your head. But I had
Speaker 1: I remembered Molly telling me about them. I was like,
Speaker 1: these are brains apps because they just feel like a
Speaker 1: little electrical current. Yeah, it feels like a mini seizure
Speaker 1: in a way, right. And there's also like they can
Speaker 1: do things to your brain by pressing on parts of
Speaker 1: them to sort of make some of these things happen.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, um, the thing that a lot
Speaker 1: of schizophrenic people have where they think they're being followed.
Speaker 1: There's like some part of the brain that controls the
Speaker 1: fact that your body feels like it's in your body.
Speaker 1: And then there's like a part of the brain that
Speaker 1: if you press on it, it feels like your body
Speaker 1: is behind you or in front of you. So you
Speaker 1: should do that to me, I mean, just to bring
Speaker 1: it back to the chip, you know. Yeah, Oh, I'd
Speaker 1: love to feel behind my body. I would like to. Uh.
Speaker 1: Seems scary I have. I think auditory hallucinations are the
Speaker 1: scariest thing. And I tried to read that Oliver Sack's
Speaker 1: book about it at a period when I was like
Speaker 1: maybe not doing great, and I immediately like had to
Speaker 1: stop reading it because it was just making me feel
Speaker 1: just afraid of things I didn't even know could happen
Speaker 1: to people. Yeah, but I do also hear people saying
Speaker 1: mommy a lot, and think saying Molly. That happens constantly.
Speaker 1: That's just miss hearing Molly that I know. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: You never think someone's calling your name and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: they're saying mommy. It just sounds my name is mommy,
Speaker 1: So it's even more confusing. It's a premonition. Yeah. No, this,
Speaker 1: like all of this stuff, is just anything that makes
Speaker 1: you realize how soft and vulnerable the human brain is.
Speaker 1: That's why it needs your skull. It does need your
Speaker 1: does it needs the pyramid to protect it? Which is
Speaker 1: just yeah, no, this is this is super interesting. Um, well,
Speaker 1: do you want to take a quick break and come
Speaker 1: back with maybe one of the scariest night calls we've
Speaker 1: ever gotten? Yes? All right, all right, well this one
Speaker 1: is not exactly a dream email. We still wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about it because it does have to do with
Speaker 1: the subconscious, and I will admit like test first brought
Speaker 1: this one up to us, it was like, this is
Speaker 1: really freaky, and I, um, I would concur this is
Speaker 1: this is a rather upsetting night email, but I feel
Speaker 1: like we should read it, but buckle up and make
Speaker 1: sure that yeah, if you believe in demons, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: uh twune out. But so this email comes to us
Speaker 1: from Sarah. I've cut it down a little bit, but um,
Speaker 1: she writes to us, dear night call, where do I start?
Speaker 1: Roughly eleven years ago, I believe I was possessed. I
Speaker 1: have zero recollection during that time. But what I can't
Speaker 1: forget is waking up to a face on my mom
Speaker 1: which I had never seen before or Since it was
Speaker 1: the summer and I was having trouble sleeping, the allotted
Speaker 1: unrest caused me to discover Alpha Delta Gamma wave videos
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and hence turned into a sort of obsessive
Speaker 1: sleep routine. I would set my laptop as close to
Speaker 1: close as possible and try to settle in for the
Speaker 1: night as subtle affirmations surrounded me. Fast forward three days,
Speaker 1: where I woke up partially under the bed, with the
Speaker 1: room and disarray and my mother fuming in the doorway.
Speaker 1: She was mid stream yeiling at me, and when she
Speaker 1: realized I was listening, which brought on a spiel about
Speaker 1: my boss contacting her over missed work and how how
Speaker 1: was she supposed to explain that. My mom, still seeming,
Speaker 1: explained the calendar days to me and eventually answered as
Speaker 1: to why she was so angry. Turns out I spent
Speaker 1: the whole time flopping around my sister's room as well
Speaker 1: as sleeping. On one of those days, she was concerned
Speaker 1: and tried feeding me water, to which I allegedly screamed
Speaker 1: at her, keep your water off of me, you filthy whore,
Speaker 1: and then proceeded to lick my own face wildly. Mind you,
Speaker 1: I had not eat and drank or relieve myself, and
Speaker 1: more importantly, my mama is close to a saint. I
Speaker 1: was utterly confused by all of her news, and I
Speaker 1: made amends during the day, slept a ton more, and
Speaker 1: eventually turned back to YouTube for my bedtime routine. Here's
Speaker 1: the very disconcerting part. The very disconcerting part. I went
Speaker 1: to the last video I started nights earlier. Within the comments,
Speaker 1: someone said they had ran some frequency meter and was
Speaker 1: learning the creator that the frequency stated was off just
Speaker 1: so and was instead broadcasting something demonic. I know nothing
Speaker 1: of these things. The creator simply replied that he or
Speaker 1: she would look into it, But those comments were posted
Speaker 1: a long time before I found myself reading them. Because
Speaker 1: of this, I'm still terrified of that genre. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: she means a genre of YouTube video and the irresponsibility
Speaker 1: or malintent of people streaming it. I grew up a
Speaker 1: strict nondenominational Christian. We're talking an unbending schedule of at
Speaker 1: least nine hours of church a week, disregarding the thirty
Speaker 1: minute drive each way. There were things about the Bible
Speaker 1: which seems so unjust and terrifying to me, and the
Speaker 1: idea of being possessed is always one of them. And
Speaker 1: yet I think in a way I found myself full circle.
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful you or your least listeners could shed sub
Speaker 1: light on the matter. Who Yeah, yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts on this one. Uh. Do you guys
Speaker 1: know of these videos by any chance? Because I wasn't
Speaker 1: really familiar. I've heard of them, but not I've never
Speaker 1: like investigated them, but I do. I think I found
Speaker 1: them when we were talking about a s m R.
Speaker 1: A few years ago and found some of the like, um,
Speaker 1: the beta wave, things that are supposed to be like
Speaker 1: talking about it a little bit because um, that's what
Speaker 1: Denise Richard's husband does. I think I was, And it's
Speaker 1: the sound baths and stuff like that. I think like
Speaker 1: some of the one that's like the peaceful frequency. So
Speaker 1: I watched a bunch of videos that were like whatever
Speaker 1: it was, forty six hurts or something, um, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound peaceful. It sounds like somebody doing a sound test.
Speaker 1: It's just like whoop. And it's funny because people put
Speaker 1: it over new age music because it's like this relaxing tone,
Speaker 1: but then it just sounds like an alarm or something
Speaker 1: interrupting new age music. It's not very relaxing. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: defeat the purpose if you're playing music in the middle
Speaker 1: of it, like you're not getting a pure tone. Well,
Speaker 1: you can get the pure tone if you want it.
Speaker 1: I would say I didn't. I didn't feel the effects
Speaker 1: of the tone. Although I think tones can be very powerful.
Speaker 1: I believe in like the power of you know, ancient
Speaker 1: drone music and stuff like that. I think music and
Speaker 1: sound can do things to your brain, can do things
Speaker 1: to your brain waves. Yeah, I have a couple of
Speaker 1: like audio like there it's a podcast that has like
Speaker 1: a free yoga class on it. It's basically audio. And
Speaker 1: I was never listening to one of them all the
Speaker 1: way through because like the thing would be over and
Speaker 1: I just turned it off. And then I did one
Speaker 1: day and I realized that there was like a sound
Speaker 1: bass sequence at the end of it. So it was
Speaker 1: playing on my speakers and I accidentally I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: in savasana and like suddenly like and it's really intense,
Speaker 1: like even just over my speakers on a podcast, it
Speaker 1: was like this sort of vibrat sational thing where I
Speaker 1: was like, like you kind of feel I mean, it
Speaker 1: is a peaceful feeling, but it's it definitely has a
Speaker 1: physiological effect on you. Um. And that's not even in person.
Speaker 1: That's not even being in some specially constructed acoustic setting.
Speaker 1: But like this is a YouTube video that she's talking about,
Speaker 1: like this is playing over laptop speakers. I used to
Speaker 1: listen to white noise um like like rainfall, and I
Speaker 1: would do the YouTube videos because they I could notice
Speaker 1: when the sound resets and it would like, you know,
Speaker 1: just I didn't like that because I would start identifying
Speaker 1: like different beats in the little clip that they were using.
Speaker 1: So I found a YouTube of like a ten or
Speaker 1: eleven hour long UM thunderstorm, and it was great like
Speaker 1: the first couple of times, but then I started I
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was I think I was just
Speaker 1: being a little cuckoo, but I started listening and like
Speaker 1: hearing stuff under it um and then I was really
Speaker 1: freaked out and I didn't want to listen to it anymore.
Speaker 1: But we've we've talked so much on this podcast ab
Speaker 1: out YouTube and how YouTube is just I mean, if
Speaker 1: if there is the possibility of demonic possession, it would
Speaker 1: for sure exist on YouTube. That's like the first step.
Speaker 1: And if subliminal messaging does work in any way, they're
Speaker 1: definitely people trying subliminal messaging because it's so unregulated. I
Speaker 1: feel like you've talked a lot about how much insane
Speaker 1: stuff there is that comes up for kids. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so suspicious of YouTube all the time.
Speaker 1: I just remember, I mean, it was a real whole
Speaker 1: arc of like my son watching the truck videos, the
Speaker 1: truck music videos, and he was really getting a lot
Speaker 1: out of it. Then he was also doing some like
Speaker 1: learning videos, and then all of a sudden you just
Speaker 1: noticed that there would be these slight links between this
Speaker 1: video and the next video. And I mean, the the
Speaker 1: stuff he saw was super, super, super concerning, to the
Speaker 1: point where I think, if you haven't seen those things,
Speaker 1: you read what people write about them and think that
Speaker 1: they're like suburban women losing their ship over nothing, or
Speaker 1: like conspiracy theories. Legitimately, it was hard to even understand
Speaker 1: like what these videos, what their purpose was right now,
Speaker 1: they're legitimately super scary. And the way the YouTube videos
Speaker 1: just flow into each other, don't you know, just keep
Speaker 1: loading new things and they all eventually funnel you to
Speaker 1: like Ben Shapiro, because that's how they're algorithm. It's also,
Speaker 1: though even not even scarier than Bench Shapiro, but like
Speaker 1: in a in a whole different realm of scariness are
Speaker 1: the videos that are just strange, like the ones that
Speaker 1: we've talked about, you know, like what driver tors and
Speaker 1: like what people think those are sweet peach exactly, um,
Speaker 1: And then you start thinking about like one some of
Speaker 1: the ones that my son was watching were um, like cars,
Speaker 1: video game cars just driving off cliffs and exploding and
Speaker 1: like you're just like what why, like what's being here?
Speaker 1: Or like the ones that just seem off and you're
Speaker 1: but otherwise are just kind of like there's nothing happening,
Speaker 1: there's no clear purpose, there's no narrative of it just
Speaker 1: seems designed to kind of leave an impression and it's
Speaker 1: just like an experiment on their brains because who knows,
Speaker 1: it's just clockwork orange. But like, I still feel like
Speaker 1: there's a difference between that stuff about that kind of
Speaker 1: possibly AI generated content, Like some of those YouTube videos
Speaker 1: seems like they're doing the kind of SEO for like
Speaker 1: basically what children, like the ultimate channel ers of it
Speaker 1: are requesting on YouTube. So they're like, oh, we have
Speaker 1: a lot of searches for truck exploding into flames. Let's
Speaker 1: make a c g I video of a truck exploding
Speaker 1: into flames. We can get those views from all those
Speaker 1: eight year olds, Like, which is you know, very weird
Speaker 1: and just consider on its own, but you can kind
Speaker 1: of like connect some dots that are still upsetting. But
Speaker 1: like I do think that, like in a very unscientific way,
Speaker 1: I feel like there is a possibility of like some
Speaker 1: of these tone videos at least like in the way
Speaker 1: that meditation can kind of you know, provide some clarity
Speaker 1: or you can have epiphanies or whatever from meditation or
Speaker 1: from any kind of therapy. To honestly, like, I would
Speaker 1: not rule out the possibility, Like I think that there's
Speaker 1: I think the context of her having grown up in
Speaker 1: a non and nominational Christian household and going to church
Speaker 1: nine hours a week and having you know, even if
Speaker 1: she is like not a fan of that, the idea
Speaker 1: of demonic possession, like that stuff gets planted in your
Speaker 1: subconscious so hard if especially if you grow up with
Speaker 1: it as a child. And I think like, even if
Speaker 1: she doesn't subscribe to that now, I just like it's
Speaker 1: really frightening to think that that could manifest itself in
Speaker 1: some way because you're in some kind of liminal or
Speaker 1: meditative state or whatever, and that you know, that stuff
Speaker 1: that is in your nightmare fuel basically for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life kind of comes to the surface, right.
Speaker 1: And again that's like what's so scared worry about the
Speaker 1: human brain is like you can't necessarily control it, and
Speaker 1: the idea that somebody else might be trying to control it. Uh.
Speaker 1: I obviously do believe that there are people making YouTube
Speaker 1: to try and hypnotize you into whatever. And I do
Speaker 1: think that like, yes, something gets you in a vulnerable,
Speaker 1: semi hypnotic state, and you have grown up with this
Speaker 1: idea of demonic possession. But also maybe she was possessed
Speaker 1: by a demon. I mean, I also just think that
Speaker 1: there are possible explanations for this that are not demonic possession. Um.
Speaker 1: And definitely I believe the emailer that her mom is
Speaker 1: nice and patient and great, but I also think that
Speaker 1: it's possible sometimes in extremely religious households to ignore things,
Speaker 1: um that our health or mental health related, and they
Speaker 1: kind become, you know, what appears to be a demonic possession.
Speaker 1: But I know totally yeah, not to diagnose the email
Speaker 1: or at all or anything. But there's also I mean, seizures,
Speaker 1: for instance, high flavers, things like that if if someone
Speaker 1: refuses to take you to a doctor again not saying
Speaker 1: that that's what happened, religious faces, perhaps even a panic attack, um,
Speaker 1: you know, anything dissociative, and it's just a scary feeling
Speaker 1: to feel like you are losing control of your brain
Speaker 1: or can't trust your own brain. And it's made scarier
Speaker 1: if the person who's carrier under isn't willing maybe to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that that could be the problem, and instead, you know,
Speaker 1: it assigns some kind of more supernatural or like evil
Speaker 1: sort of explanation for it, which I think can only
Speaker 1: compound any panic attack or what ever that you might
Speaker 1: be going through at the time, or any you know,
Speaker 1: just sort of dissociative state. It's also I mean, you
Speaker 1: mentioned the color mentioned that, or the emailer mentioned that
Speaker 1: they were having trouble sleeping, and this kind of stuff
Speaker 1: can also happen if you even if you think that
Speaker 1: you've been sleeping, if you feel like you haven't been sleeping,
Speaker 1: but you know, there are times when you feel like
Speaker 1: you must have slept some but you're not actually really
Speaker 1: falling asleep. After a few days of that, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: really be like that outside of the realm of possibility
Speaker 1: that you would disassociate so much that your behavior would
Speaker 1: seem like what you're describing. You know. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's a generally safe and not at all paranoid rule
Speaker 1: thumb maybe to not fall asleep with YouTube that is
Speaker 1: that is very true. I mean that's what I felt
Speaker 1: like eventually, I was like, you know, you're in a
Speaker 1: very suggestive state when you're trying to fall asleep. And
Speaker 1: then you know, when I started, like here, when I
Speaker 1: started thinking I hear stuff underneath. That's that's partially because
Speaker 1: when you listen to white noise, like, that's what happens
Speaker 1: is that if you're having trouble falling asleep, especially, you
Speaker 1: start to identify things that are annoying, that are keeping
Speaker 1: you up in the track. That's mental well you and
Speaker 1: I think you know with YouTube, like someone might have
Speaker 1: even just been having a laugh with being like you're
Speaker 1: some relaxing noises and every so off and offen in
Speaker 1: like and kind of keep you away. And maybe it
Speaker 1: was just a natural thunderstorm noise, but your brain was
Speaker 1: interpreting it as creepy in some way. That's almost certainly
Speaker 1: what it was. I mean, but I don't know. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I recommend, because I have gone through
Speaker 1: the same thing is explore dot org as I always
Speaker 1: recommend the live Earth cams. You can often find one
Speaker 1: that's like an actual nature sound and it will just yeah,
Speaker 1: because I have the same problem with like, once I
Speaker 1: you're looping, it doesn't relax me ever again, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you you realize you're in a in a simulacrum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the storm or whatever. I wonder if the demonic tones
Speaker 1: thing though, because friend of the pod, Carter Cruz, also
Speaker 1: was talking about somebody who she was following who talked
Speaker 1: about how like E d M has demonic a demonic
Speaker 1: note in it, and there was like this demonic note
Speaker 1: sort of conspiracy that again, I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: like the like the Devil's like the tri tone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically I want to know what this note sounds. Like,
Speaker 1: what do you think the demonic note sounds. I mean
Speaker 1: you should find it him. I think the demonic tri tone.
Speaker 1: It's just making me imagine like a Dracula church organ,
Speaker 1: you know, just some minor keys. Probably I'm gonna trying
Speaker 1: to find it. That's it right there, That's that's the
Speaker 1: demonic Yeah, totally. The sound of garbage truck we just
Speaker 1: got it. Wheeling is a demonic tone. But it's like
Speaker 1: anything can become demonic. Remember when we had the whole
Speaker 1: ice cream truck sagay up early on in the podcast, Um,
Speaker 1: somebody who's getting sent the sound of an ice cream
Speaker 1: truck and it's just one of the creepiest things for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, because it's so North Carolina that I heard
Speaker 1: that one all the time. The Hello on the ice
Speaker 1: cream truck and anything can get creepy if it's repeated enough.
Speaker 1: And I just also think tempo, you know, like very
Speaker 1: fast music makes me feel stressed out. Uh, sometimes I
Speaker 1: want that. There's another thing that's like the sound of
Speaker 1: falling downstairs. It's like the permanent spiral. It's a musical thing.
Speaker 1: They do it in a Mario game for an endless staircase.
Speaker 1: It is basically just it just sounds like it's going
Speaker 1: down always, but it's always just the same. Uh. If
Speaker 1: you know anything else about demonic music or music and
Speaker 1: hypnosis at Double Tones, you should give us a nightcall
Speaker 1: about it at two four oh for ace I site. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also if you have any uh insight on on
Speaker 1: this color's experience with the alpha and gamma tones in
Speaker 1: YouTube slash any um suspected demonic possessions yourself? Um, please
Speaker 1: let us know all about that. I also feel like
Speaker 1: you can feel like you're being possessed when you have
Speaker 1: the sleep demon sitting on your chest. Do you ever
Speaker 1: get trapped in like a like a nap and you
Speaker 1: try to wake up and like sleep paralysis that can
Speaker 1: feel like possession to me, where you're like trying to
Speaker 1: get out of a dream. Nightmare on Elm Street stylie. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: I never really had that before. Dodge that one. Well,
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