WEBVTT - 133: Demonic Possession, Summum & Exploding Head Syndrome

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<v Speaker 1>It's one seventeen am in your subconscious and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Night Call. Hello, and welcome back to Night Call,

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<v Speaker 1>a call in show for our dystopian reality. I am

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. I am Tess Lynch, and with me

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<v Speaker 1>are Molly Lambert and Emily Oshida. Today we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taking some calls and emails about dreams about pyramids.

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<v Speaker 1>But first let's check in. We are recording on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>The election has not been called. Maybe by the time

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<v Speaker 1>this is released it will have been. How are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys feeling we should be super specific? We are. We're

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<v Speaker 1>recording it Friday is now ten fifty seven am, specific time,

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<v Speaker 1>because who knows what could happen in the rest of Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday could be an interesting day. You never know. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like there's three more plot twists. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's gonna be tons of recounts at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>At looks like or at least one in Georgia probably

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly in Pennsylvania. But I guess we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>that shakes out. It's just been we've been living in

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<v Speaker 1>a real liminal state for the last few days, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's making everybody a little bit crazy right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in a liminal state already, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a liminal state inside a liminal state. Yeah, real,

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<v Speaker 1>real tenant ours, this is we didn't need to see

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<v Speaker 1>tenant in theaters. We're living it. Emily, you had champagne

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<v Speaker 1>that is waiting or waiting to not be uncorked. This is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my one act of of I guess optimism.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though you know, I could go on and on

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<v Speaker 1>forever about how I'm feeling a very like unsatisfactory, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not fun, but I do feel a degree of

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<v Speaker 1>indication about how close this ended up being, just because

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<v Speaker 1>of how many people yelled at me about like how

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<v Speaker 1>I was being overly pessimistic about Joe Biden's chances of

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<v Speaker 1>being president because like the pool he's ahead so far

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<v Speaker 1>in the pools and Wisconsin stuff, and I was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>why are you looking at polls like we've done this already.

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<v Speaker 1>But I digress. I could, I could, I could yell

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<v Speaker 1>forever about that, but yeah, I did buy a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>of champagne on election day or it's prosecco but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>same effect, um, And I wasn't gonna spend that much

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<v Speaker 1>money on a Biden presidency honestly, Um, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to have the back of the fridge just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case there's a more like an end of

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<v Speaker 1>presidency too, to celebrate real that austerity. Champagne socialism, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>prosecco socialism, prossecco socialisms. Okay, Yeah, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>it's very strange, obviously everybody kind of feels this way

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<v Speaker 1>to keep yourself from having feelings as you watch something

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<v Speaker 1>that affects you so much. I mean on election night, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I started it to watch and then got deja vu.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why am I putting myself through this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we won't know tonight. I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>that like horrible dip into anxiety and despair and then

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<v Speaker 1>the slow climb back up to like maybe it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went to bed at like ten, very well rested,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been happening again and again where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I could stay up and watch this play out, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would really love to just not do that and

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<v Speaker 1>just hope it plays out in our favor. Um, last time,

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<v Speaker 1>four years ago, I made like a huge dinner. I

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even talked about this in the podcast before. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just I made a roast chicken and like all

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff, and then I threw it in the

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<v Speaker 1>trash when the polls changed, and then I was like

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<v Speaker 1>so upset with myself because I was like, you should

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<v Speaker 1>have just saved the chick, and it became like an

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<v Speaker 1>even a compounding thing of like, oh, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>self indulgent. It's just whatever, I don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>a great New Yorker short story exactly. Yeah, yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>roast chicken in the trash. I like wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed at like six pm, for sure and just

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<v Speaker 1>go into a value of the dolls uh medically induced

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<v Speaker 1>coma for a couple of weeks and come out the

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<v Speaker 1>other side. But that wasn't an option. So I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going over to a friend's yard and seeing a

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<v Speaker 1>few friends and hanging out together. And that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing I could have possibly done. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an option for everybody, but just like being

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<v Speaker 1>around other people who are not that excited about a

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden presidency, but are you know, nonetheless hopeful for

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<v Speaker 1>a not Trump presidency. I'm not even gonna say that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not excited for a Joe Biden presidency, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get out of this situation so badly

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<v Speaker 1>that I can't even take any pleasure in like rehashing

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<v Speaker 1>all of the feelings I had during the primary. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's like we have to kind of get over it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just feel everybody kind of like way eating

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<v Speaker 1>on on this precipice, being like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say any shit about Joe Biden. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>say any about Joe by as soon as they call

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<v Speaker 1>it for him, or you know, maybe as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>he's actually inaugurated. We'll see how the next few months go.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as calling the presidency, I think it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens. But I'm just saying like, once it's certain

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<v Speaker 1>that he's going to be our president, if it's certain,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you just let it all, let it all

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<v Speaker 1>out and be like, Okay, you motherfucker, you are accountable

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<v Speaker 1>to us. He helped you get this stupid job. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's fine to do that now, because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like anything else is like too superstitious of like

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<v Speaker 1>we can't say anything bad or it'll it'll flip back

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<v Speaker 1>the other way. I do think that it was crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to see the news channels be like we can cut

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's mike. That was the most Bonker's part of yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>to me, um was they all cut his mic during

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<v Speaker 1>the speech because he was saying stuff that's not true

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<v Speaker 1>and realize like they could have done this time, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't because they wanted access or ratings or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like to say, it's like a bigger version

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<v Speaker 1>of like people you know, turning on high Vey Weinstein

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Once he's like no longer that powerful. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like once the tide starts to turn and and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't hold this way that they have, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>undermine them in a way that feels more just. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a story about Trump calling Rupert Murdoch because Fox

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<v Speaker 1>called Arizona for Biden and not everybody did, but the

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<v Speaker 1>ape he did, and AP and Fox News did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so now people think that Fox might call it

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<v Speaker 1>first because they're just like showing Trump that like they

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<v Speaker 1>have more power than him, they are more important than him,

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<v Speaker 1>which is true, but also it makes me get scared

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<v Speaker 1>about the like super soldier racist Nazi man they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>or women they're gonna come out with for the selection

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Trump but like competent and like with the facade

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<v Speaker 1>of like a politician would be terrifying. Yeah, Like, in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways Trump is not at all the ideal figurehead

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<v Speaker 1>for this model of Republicanism. And it's like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been the only thing that's kept King from yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a true believer. He like doesn't believe any

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff I think. Um, not that the other

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<v Speaker 1>aren't hypocrites, but like I for sure don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>actually is pro life. He like clearly isn't a religious person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. There's a bunch of things. And also like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid for the like everyone being ready to make

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<v Speaker 1>just make him into a clown man, a George W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush like harmless clown man when he's not president anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I think that will happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't either. I think the reason that George W. Bush

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<v Speaker 1>is able to be a toothless clown man now, um

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<v Speaker 1>and people seem to have this collective amnesia about how

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<v Speaker 1>truly damaging and evil his uh presidency was is just

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<v Speaker 1>because there wasn't the same day to day um interfacing

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<v Speaker 1>with it that we have now like every single day

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<v Speaker 1>if you're at all paying attention to any uh current events,

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<v Speaker 1>and not even necessarily on social media, although that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way that most people are experiencing it. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 1>like having like just be having your head and advice

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<v Speaker 1>for the last four years. And I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking a lot about like how that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to affect our generation and the younger generation going forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, this this version of reality that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>living in, unless it just gets worse, whish it could?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, speaking of weird versions of reality, uh

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<v Speaker 1>Emily shared with us very very disturbing TikTok. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's one. It's one thing when you like are looking

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<v Speaker 1>around on Twitter on election I perhaps despite your better judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>and and going down threads of protoon people or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>boughts and all of the above, and just seeing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the maga rhetoric which we've all become so familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>up until now now mixed with like this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>delegitimizing the election. But like I stumbled in a to

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<v Speaker 1>a completely other wing of weird right wingy conservative like

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<v Speaker 1>semi magical thinking religious Twitter, it's right wing, it's right

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<v Speaker 1>wing drama kid yeah, it's like Christian drama kid Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you explain what it is? And then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about our reactions to it? Okay, So I and

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<v Speaker 1>the context in which I found this was that it

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<v Speaker 1>was retweeted by Perfume Genius, who I follow great follow also,

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<v Speaker 1>but he retreeted um Andrea Russet, who I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>like an artist, like a music artist. Um, she's got

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<v Speaker 1>seven point one million followers, so obviously I'm too old

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<v Speaker 1>to know who she is, but my mutual follows are

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<v Speaker 1>include Marshmallow and um. Yeah. Anyway, she retreated this saying

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<v Speaker 1>this this this clip of a TikTok saying, how the

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<v Speaker 1>funk is this real? Um? And this is a TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>from a user that goes by It's Taylor Rousseau and

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<v Speaker 1>it's this incredibly dramatic complete with visual effects, makeup and

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<v Speaker 1>a sound, a very dramatic soundtrack of some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like very brooding Christian rock. It seems like of her

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<v Speaker 1>enacting in this scenario in which she's being asked to

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye, I guess by the Joe Biden Police State

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<v Speaker 1>to get a a chip implanted in her arm that

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<v Speaker 1>will protect her from covid um, but her knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the mark of the beast as we all

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<v Speaker 1>know obviously of accident, that's going to be the mark

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<v Speaker 1>of the beast. Um, she resisted and is killed um

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<v Speaker 1>by the bidens state for her resistance. And but then

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<v Speaker 1>she goes to heaven and is uh is blessed by

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<v Speaker 1>God for you know, doing the right thing in her

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<v Speaker 1>life on earth. Um. It ends with her in heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>but she also gets like punched by like off screen,

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<v Speaker 1>Like so it's all on this girl's face and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like her doing this acting and like it's subtitled,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's like lip sinking to the song and getting

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<v Speaker 1>like punched by somebody off screen and blood is coming

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<v Speaker 1>down her face and she's all bruised up because she's

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to get the vaccine. It's like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the ultimate like stop hitting yourself, like of like

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<v Speaker 1>right wing conspiracy type stuff. It's like it's like truly

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<v Speaker 1>like punching yourself in the face to own the lips

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Um, but like highly dramatized. It's wild. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was posted by Andrew Arrusset and the responses are

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<v Speaker 1>shockingly in support of this narrative um and kind of saying,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you make fun of this this woman's religious beliefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Also we all know that like the vaccine is the

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<v Speaker 1>mark of the beasts, and she has a point and

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<v Speaker 1>you should. People need to be more aware of this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll make fun of Taylor Rosseau for this video,

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<v Speaker 1>which just sent me down a wormle. Yeah, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>emblematic of a lot of the realizations over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few days in terms of how many people believe crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>awful shit. I will say that I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I only see TikTok through Twitter because we

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<v Speaker 1>are on TikTok. Could be if from the Nightcall Hive

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<v Speaker 1>demands it, but it seems just like overwhelming to me. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I like having it like curated to me by Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>get the greatest hits. But I've seen all these things

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<v Speaker 1>that are like really theater kitty people doing fake scenarios.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they're making up dystopian novels and doing acting

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<v Speaker 1>it out. So that's what I thought this was. At first.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think it was religious. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>but it is that it's but it's based on a

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<v Speaker 1>real conspiracy. Did you guys see, there's like this Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Bay produced movie coming to Netflix soon that is basically Songbird,

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<v Speaker 1>Songbird about It takes place in like the world where

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<v Speaker 1>there's COVID twenty nine or something. It's like the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>has gone up to COVID fifty. He described it as

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<v Speaker 1>Romeo and Juliet but set in a pandemic and it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a love story, guys. It's hot. Archy is starchee

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Oh my god. The people who set out

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<v Speaker 1>the stream to pirate that are doing the lord's work.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I was like, I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>dunk on this having seen it, but I refused to

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<v Speaker 1>spend a red scent on watching it. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a Netflix movie, I think, Oh is it? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were shooting it now and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>do not work order that the union put out because

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<v Speaker 1>they were not i think, observing UM correct protocols for

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<v Speaker 1>cod I'm shocked that this libertarian movie that's all about

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<v Speaker 1>the big government coming to get you and force you

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<v Speaker 1>to take the vaccine, the chip vaccine or whatever wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>obey a union protocol. Yeah, shocking. It's kind of Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>made like for I don't know, like hunger games fans

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<v Speaker 1>or something, because it's just like, like, what could be

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<v Speaker 1>more ominous than the government putting a chip in you? Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole six six six thing though, is sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe be on my pay grade. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>some revelationship. But like I don't I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>read some blogs, and most, like I will say, to

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<v Speaker 1>the credit of a lot of like like Christian blogs

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff and like and like academic some like vaguely

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<v Speaker 1>academic blogs that have been looking at most of them

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<v Speaker 1>are like dispelling this. Um. They're just saying there's nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing here. But it's some people are saying that

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<v Speaker 1>this got started with um Kanye West talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine and and you know, supposing that their why be

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<v Speaker 1>aship that they would put in people's arms, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it would be like them, you know, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a mark of evil. And I just think all

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<v Speaker 1>these all these things line up is like fundies and

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<v Speaker 1>um people that don't want big government involved in their

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<v Speaker 1>lives in any way, even when they would be helping you.

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<v Speaker 1>The acting out of the persecution is just so wild

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And I think we like see this, so

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<v Speaker 1>wait times, we're going to see so much more of it,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like if if if the election is called for

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<v Speaker 1>Biden raises why people think they're being persecuted. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>really believe this, and their their speech is always under threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Um when you know, right, obviously this is not the

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<v Speaker 1>case because we hear from them all the time, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also like it's not just on the right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously there's like you know centrists who are like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're being person you know, there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are pushing back against progress in various ways or

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<v Speaker 1>being like let's keep it room temperature, folks, which is

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing is ever going to be room temperature again,

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<v Speaker 1>so we gotta go with that instead. Um. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like people always think it's the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>world though, right, I think with more frequency lately, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think with good reason, but a lot of hard

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to support that one as opposed to the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>beast beast conspiracy beast chip. Can't these people find out

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<v Speaker 1>about like Prop twenty two and be like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy to like turn workers into machines. That would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the perfect way to direct conspiracy theory energy. It

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<v Speaker 1>was such a lost opportunity, you know, because it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when people would point out, like follow the money on

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<v Speaker 1>Prop twenty two, people were convinced it was just that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the ad campaign was too overwhelming, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some people just fell for it. But that's also l

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<v Speaker 1>A prop uh California props. So prop talk prop Talk,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bonus episode. Yes, exactly, that's the l A

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<v Speaker 1>podcast crossover episode. Exactly, Hot prop Talk. We should take

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<v Speaker 1>a break and then when we come back, we will

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<v Speaker 1>have some pyramid pals and dreams. Let's take a nightcall

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<v Speaker 1>about pyramids in Brazil. Timn call. This is Rebecca. It's

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<v Speaker 1>three twenty in some follow Brazil. I'm calling above a

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<v Speaker 1>cult but also pyramids. So um, this is my second

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<v Speaker 1>voice mail because the other one was too long, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say that the planned city brasil Ya, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the cap of Brazil, planned by of Kinye and Meyer,

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<v Speaker 1>the modernist architect has always been intriguing to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's beautiful, but some people say there's some

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<v Speaker 1>weird energy around it because it's made of concrete. In

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<v Speaker 1>all buildings have some sort of triangle base and the

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<v Speaker 1>entire city is planned to be without any corners, so

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<v Speaker 1>everything is kind of rounded, and if you look from above,

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<v Speaker 1>it's shaped as an airplane. So all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>alrighty creepy. But I was browsing the International Film Festival

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<v Speaker 1>of from Polo Catawang and I found a documentary that

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<v Speaker 1>is about spirituality around some around Brazilian and I found

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<v Speaker 1>out about this cult called Down Valley and it's really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>It was founded by a medium in this n Sason.

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<v Speaker 1>She was called Tiernava and the call is a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of spirituality and Egyptian religion like deities. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know much about it. I'm singing it the English uh

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<v Speaker 1>Wikipedia page for it. I found it fascinating. The where

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<v Speaker 1>like very very colorful clothes and they do kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like um, say, carreographs ritual. I really think you guys

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<v Speaker 1>should look into it. I hope you have a good night.

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<v Speaker 1>By thank you for that night call all the way

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<v Speaker 1>from Brazil. That was very exciting. It's always really fun

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from our our listeners who are not neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>and then call come to Brazil. We came to Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>I am looking at a National Geographic article about this

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<v Speaker 1>about don Valley this cult. Um. I weirdly know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about Brazilia because I had a boyfriend who was

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<v Speaker 1>really obsessed with it because it is so weird and

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<v Speaker 1>it is very beautiful. Brazilia looks rad and it is

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<v Speaker 1>also very scary. Yeah, he ended up going there. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>he made a pilgrimage to Brazilia. UM And apparently now

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<v Speaker 1>it is we heard or not weird. I mean dystopian

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that everything is dystopian in that it's

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<v Speaker 1>like this dream city, but it's kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>become less shiny as time has passed. And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>they have a homelessness epidemic in Brazil as they do

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere else. So there are I think encampments like around

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<v Speaker 1>some of these crazy buildings, which you know, just that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, like in downtown l A, where there's

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<v Speaker 1>like these huge, you know, modern towers and nobody living

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<v Speaker 1>in them and then people living on the streets below them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just, uh feels very dystopian, uh futuristic, blade runnery.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not surprised that new age people also are

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<v Speaker 1>into this city because it has no corners, but it

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<v Speaker 1>just fits in with our general um buildings in more

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<v Speaker 1>interesting shapes than squares are deep dive into the overlooked

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<v Speaker 1>bill things in other shapes than squares. Pyramid Palace has

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<v Speaker 1>been a huge hit, and we had no idea when

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<v Speaker 1>we started, but we've all had like a lifelong interest

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<v Speaker 1>in pyramids. I wanted to be an Egyptologist for a while. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I took in egyptology class in college that was so

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that I, um almost failed. I had to drop. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so interesting that you almost failed, Yes, because

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't have a brain for dates at all

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<v Speaker 1>or maps, so I kept like failing all the quizzes

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<v Speaker 1>because they were like, what, you know, draw a map

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<v Speaker 1>of Egypt in the year, in this year, this era,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I could not do that. But everything

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<v Speaker 1>I learned in the class was like incredibly fascinating. And

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<v Speaker 1>it also ended up being about the history of Egyptology

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sort of the great era of looting

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<v Speaker 1>by the British Museum and like what's happening now with

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, for artifacts are being repatriated back to where

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<v Speaker 1>they belong in Egypt. Yeah, um, well, just to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Valley of the Don for a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I would highly recommend looking this up just strictly for

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<v Speaker 1>like style points, because the outfits that the practitioners wear

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<v Speaker 1>when they're doing their ceremonies are like very rare. They

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<v Speaker 1>look very much like costumes from a Yodorowski film or

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<v Speaker 1>something very like colorful, blocky, kind of like god spellish.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also what Brazilia feels like to me. It just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like, yeah, like it's built to be the backdrop,

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<v Speaker 1>like like alphabel. Yeah, and their beliefs seem very complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of them, I I like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>um balancing out of of of a cult to beliefs

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<v Speaker 1>that rather than say, Egypt being built by Aliens, which

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<v Speaker 1>as we've I think discussed, is basically racist, uh, as

0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a conspiracy theorist conspiracy theories go, uh, they just believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Jesus was an alien, which I'm into that one.

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm super into that. There's a lot of Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>an alien And somebody else wrote about the re aliens

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get into them sometime soon, but I totally

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<v Speaker 1>get down with the Jesus was an alien. That makes

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus makes so much sense. Yeah, he's just Superman then,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine. Like that that all that's like the

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<v Speaker 1>joining of of of superhero weirdness and religious weirdness. That

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah to taste that taste fine together. Yeah, please

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<v Speaker 1>look up the Temple of Dawn Valley because it is

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<v Speaker 1>also very Yodorowski. It is a colorful labyrinth. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>colors are great, like because Brazili. It is also pretty

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<v Speaker 1>like monochrome, um, which is like one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>I think it looks so pretty, especially now that it's

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<v Speaker 1>getting old and like something. They're like cracks and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the concrete structures and like moss and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where on them. Like I think it looks really

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's aging very well, um from a purely aesthetic standpoint. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Don Valley stuff is like mega color pops,

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<v Speaker 1>like just very polyphonic spree. Uh. Yeah. And this religion

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<v Speaker 1>was started in nineteen sixty nine and you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>that's where it stays. And I like that it was

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<v Speaker 1>started by Tianieva, was an ex truck driver. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>shoes described really nice hot tip on the Pyramid Palace.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for that. Yeah. Um. We also

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<v Speaker 1>have another We have a voice memo from Patrick high

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<v Speaker 1>Night call. This is Patrick in Salt Lake City, And

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<v Speaker 1>did it tell you about another pyramid, the Some of

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<v Speaker 1>Them Temple here in Salt Lake. It's located right in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a normal neighborhood. It's about a forty

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<v Speaker 1>ft wide pyramid. I think it's about twenty five ft tall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's built by the sum Them, which is a I'll

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<v Speaker 1>use the term new religious movement, which is heavily influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by ancient Egyptian aesthetics. Unlike most pyramids these days, this

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<v Speaker 1>one actually has mummies in it. Some of Them's founder

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<v Speaker 1>was mummified and placed into a gold leaf start caphagus,

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<v Speaker 1>and a handful of cats, dogs, and other animals have

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<v Speaker 1>also been mummified and encased in a bronze sculpture. Some

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of them offers this service mummification to human and animal

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<v Speaker 1>customers alike. If you are ever in the market, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever want to get lost down a very nightcall

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit Hole. Check out some of Them's website at some

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<v Speaker 1>of them dot us s U M m U M.

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<v Speaker 1>There's ures of the mummies, including the animals, and including

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<v Speaker 1>the process. Nothing too gruesome, but they do show the

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<v Speaker 1>animals wrapped in bandages and and getting ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>into a bronze sculpture. So it's pretty interesting. Boy, fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of this before in my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely have come across this before on my Wikipedia travel

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<v Speaker 1>through the pyramid section and maybe the new religious section. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Super fascinating. Also fascinating that it's Salt Lake City based,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Mormonism is essentially a new religious movement.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>It is much less old than people think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you go into the actual teachings of Joseph

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Smith and stuff, it is all like, incredibly nutty and

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<v Speaker 1>involves like a lizard coming and talking to him on

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>his window sill. So um, great promo for the real

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>housewives of Salt Lake City. I'm curious what it is

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.679
<v Speaker 1>about Salt Lake City. Patrick included some pictures from the website,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a picture his caption is inside the pyramid,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like your aunt's living room circ except that

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<v Speaker 1>there are human and animal mummies inside of those sarcopha guy,

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<v Speaker 1>it is the strangest mix of like aesthetics I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, guys, would you want to be mummified?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you would, I don't know. I mean, it's takes

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<v Speaker 1>up an awfu lot of room, but it seems more

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<v Speaker 1>problem ecologically sound than like modern traditional burial, like just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let a lot of bandages do the work

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of all those chemicals or something. It could be cool

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<v Speaker 1>to be a mummy. I don't know, but you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do the mushroom suit. If I were mummified.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not want to be stored at the Summum

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the Summum Temple. I believe their Their website is definitely

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>worth a look. I took a cool art class when

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid um where we made little Egyptian

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>tombs and we made little clay mummies and bandage them

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and then put them in a little made little sarcophag

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>eye for them. I just don't trust this sum them

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>organization undane like on top of their body preservation tech,

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.560
<v Speaker 1>like it all looks a little bit JANKI Well, it

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>feels like the cryogenically freezing people a little bit too.

0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>It does feel like there's something very like seventies Altered

0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>States about it. Well, it's it has a d i

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:45.080
<v Speaker 1>y vibe. That's the the off putting thing. And and

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you know how sometimes like I don't know, you can

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>judge an organization by whether or not you feel like

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>they have the means and technology to make an air

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>tight chamber. Um, that's like something I always think about.

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I like religions. Can they make an eartight

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.239
<v Speaker 1>chamber or not? I don't think that they can. I

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>think that there's going to be some unpleasantness with this

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>body at some point down the line for them, uh

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>being mummified in their temple. Okay, but if they're using

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like ancient mummification techniques like those do work, but are

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>they I don't trust them to be on That's what

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I don't think that they're doing it right. Also,

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>their their pyramid looks like a storage container. Like the

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>only thing that makes it not look like like an

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>extra space storage facility is that it's a pyramid. Other

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>than that, it just looks like, yeah, where you would

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>keep your records or something, or or your mummies or

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>your relatives and pets like some mums. Some mummies. I

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it is, right, some mums. We cracked it.

0:30:56.400 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 1>So aside from pyramids, we have been putting out for

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>your dreams. We wanted to hear about your dreams and

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>your you know all matters of your subconscious. Just felt like,

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, as we near the end of a super

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>surreal year, why not take a full bath in the subconscious.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>And we got some great ones from you, some so far,

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna do a little dream mail. Um. But

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>this first email comes from JP, who says I'm responding

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>to your call for prophetic dreams. It happened about five

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>or six years ago, and I've only ever told a

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>few people. I remember being taken by someone to a

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>high cliff across from a tall bear mountain. Suddenly lightning

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.280
<v Speaker 1>shot out of the great clouds, striking the rock face

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in an explosion of fire and smoke. As the dust

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 1>plumes settled, I saw a list of thirteen names, and

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I wept as I instantly and intuitively understood that these

0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:52.719
<v Speaker 1>were the names of the thirteen families that secretly control

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the world. It was at that moment that I woke

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>up not remembered a single one of them to this

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>day of tribe and nothing has come to me. Oh well,

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>this is just car This is a great dream. You

0:32:04.880 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta remember. You gotta do some hypnosis and figure out

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>what those names are. Definitely, uh yeah, I I think

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>this sounds close to like some of the bad conspiracy

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 1>theory things of the Thirteen Families who control the world.

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>But I just really like the idea of like being

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>in a dream and there's an explosion and then these

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>names appear before you, when you just break down into

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>sobs because you're just like it's important. Yeah. It just

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>makes me think about in Boogie Nights when Dirk has

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the dream or his name reveals itself in Neon Yes

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>with an explosion. Well, this also makes me think of

0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the UM. I think it's more or less true. But

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>like all dream things, it's like it's never a science,

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>so you don't really know. But this idea that like

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't read anything in a dream, you can't remember

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>anything you read, yeah, which I think mostly just means

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't read anything in dream, which is very strange.

0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have somebody come on and explain

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that for us, Like why does written language not make

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it through? I don't know. Do you remember seeing billboards

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>before you could read, yes, and being like those are

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know someday what that means? I feel like

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like that I remember feeling like I could read

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>long before I could so I think I was just

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>like looking at words and making up what they meant,

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, Like that's the thing that kids do a lot.

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>They quote unquote read a book um, which is always

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:35.520
<v Speaker 1>very adorable. Uh yeah, no, the reading things, like, you know,

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>if you were to get some kind of cryptic prophetic

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>prophetic prophecy uh in a dream, like doing it and

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 1>writing feels like the most obscured way to get it,

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Like how would you you would have to hear the

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>voice of something. I feel like sounds make it through

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>really well. The idea of it being writing though, so

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting because of the idea of like language being this

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>great evolutionary leap for word that you know, goes back

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to apes and and came to us. Because I feel

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>like even when you see it with children like my

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>brother's kids now, it's like they make this leap all

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden where their brain can suddenly read and

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>process language, and it's so crazy. So the idea that

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>there's like the next level of that that the human

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>brain can't reach yet but possibly could. I think the

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>thirteen names can probably right and probably access that. If

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>we could just read the thirteen names, then we would

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>become like the super you know, we would reach them

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:40.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe and sixteenth names right here. One of them is Kardashian.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid I think it's like Bezos. I mean, I

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like it saw the Billionaires right. Um. I I

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>would like to propose we take another night email about dreams. Um,

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to insist on reading this one because

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with it and it is about exploding head syndrome.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>This comes from Natalie High night Call, Long time, First time.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I've recently learned that an occurrence I've had with my

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>dreams the last couple of years has a really concerning

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 1>name and is actually a diagnosable thing, exploding head syndrome.

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Exploding head syndrome is when you have auditory hallucinations while

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you are asleep. For me, they first manifested as dreams

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>where someone would be knocking on my front door forcefully

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 1>like a cop, and this would jolt me awake as

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I truly believed I heard knocking. I would then panic

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>search my house to try to find the source. They

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>occurred a few more times until I started to realize

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 1>they weren't real. I have since had some that were

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.399
<v Speaker 1>just loud crashes or like something crushing inside my head

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 1>like I was gnashing on rocks. They always wake me

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>up and cause a panic response, as waking up to

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 1>any sudden loud noise would. They first started after a

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>vacation in Spain, when someone broke into our airbnb after

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>knocking where I was alone taking a nap. So I

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>initially thought they were a PTSD response, but in reading

0:35:54.080 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>more about them, I think they might be more related

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to a head injury I sustained in a car accident

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 1>the same year, or a stress or sponsor from either

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of those things. Who knows, but knowing they are a

0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:05.600
<v Speaker 1>real thing that happens to other people too has helped

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>in my panic response and seemed to calm them down. Day. Yeah,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>exploding head syndrome, you guys, Have you guys ever experienced

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>anything like that? No auditory hallucining I've had. I've had

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>like some weird during migraines, I get an aura where

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I I can hear, but it's not when I'm asleep. Um,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>but I get like some auditory stuff and some visual

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff in like the aura, which is super scary when

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it first happened. Um, but I cannot imagine being I

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>guess in a way, you know, after earthquakes. I feel

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>like sometimes I have that jolted awake by like I

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>think I hear some loud noise or I feel a

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:48.439
<v Speaker 1>jolt or something in your dreams, like when you're yeah, yeah,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I get that one a lot, don't you

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like the following dream that ends with you like actually

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>jolting in your bed exactly that kind of thing. Yeah,

0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>And or a crash. I've heard like a crash where

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 1>there was no crash and been like, oh, yeah, oh

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>that's so weird. Yeah. I Also this reminds me a

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of like brains apps. Um. I don't know if

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you guys have ever had those and stuff. Those are

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the scariest because they don't warn you about them. And

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, I wrote a thing about it once about

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 1>going through withdrawal and just yeah, and all these people

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, I have that too. Uh. That's like

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the number one thing they should tell you when they

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 1>put you on brain maps but they don't, is that

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>your brain will do these little zapps. Um. I got

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>those from shingles, by the way, and not from meds.

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>But I had shingles when I was like super duper stressed,

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and it was right after i'd had a baby and

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I got shingles like on my neck and like it

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was really there. I guess it was like the nerves,

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the closer they are to your head. But I had

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I remembered Molly telling me about them. I was like,

0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>these are brains apps because they just feel like a

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>little electrical current. Yeah, it feels like a mini seizure

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>in a way, right. And there's also like they can

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 1>do things to your brain by pressing on parts of

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>them to sort of make some of these things happen.

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>From what I understand, um, the thing that a lot

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of schizophrenic people have where they think they're being followed.

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>There's like some part of the brain that controls the

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that your body feels like it's in your body.

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 1>And then there's like a part of the brain that

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>if you press on it, it feels like your body

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>is behind you or in front of you. So you

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>should do that to me, I mean, just to bring

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>it back to the chip, you know. Yeah, Oh, I'd

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>love to feel behind my body. I would like to. Uh.

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>Seems scary I have. I think auditory hallucinations are the

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>scariest thing. And I tried to read that Oliver Sack's

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>book about it at a period when I was like

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe not doing great, and I immediately like had to

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>stop reading it because it was just making me feel

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>just afraid of things I didn't even know could happen

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to people. Yeah, but I do also hear people saying

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>mommy a lot, and think saying Molly. That happens constantly.

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 1>That's just miss hearing Molly that I know. I'm just saying.

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>You never think someone's calling your name and you're like, no,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>they're saying mommy. It just sounds my name is mommy,

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>So it's even more confusing. It's a premonition. Yeah. No, this,

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 1>like all of this stuff, is just anything that makes

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you realize how soft and vulnerable the human brain is.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>That's why it needs your skull. It does need your

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>does it needs the pyramid to protect it? Which is

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 1>just yeah, no, this is this is super interesting. Um, well,

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>do you want to take a quick break and come

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>back with maybe one of the scariest night calls we've

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 1>ever gotten? Yes? All right, all right, well this one

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>is not exactly a dream email. We still wanted to

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about it because it does have to do with

0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the subconscious, and I will admit like test first brought

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this one up to us, it was like, this is

0:40:11.640 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 1>really freaky, and I, um, I would concur this is

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 1>this is a rather upsetting night email, but I feel

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>like we should read it, but buckle up and make

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 1>sure that yeah, if you believe in demons, maybe maybe

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>uh twune out. But so this email comes to us

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.800
<v Speaker 1>from Sarah. I've cut it down a little bit, but um,

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>she writes to us, dear night call, where do I start?

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Roughly eleven years ago, I believe I was possessed. I

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.479
<v Speaker 1>have zero recollection during that time. But what I can't

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.439
<v Speaker 1>forget is waking up to a face on my mom

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 1>which I had never seen before or Since it was

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the summer and I was having trouble sleeping, the allotted

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>unrest caused me to discover Alpha Delta Gamma wave videos

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube, and hence turned into a sort of obsessive

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 1>sleep routine. I would set my laptop as close to

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.480
<v Speaker 1>close as possible and try to settle in for the

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 1>night as subtle affirmations surrounded me. Fast forward three days,

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>where I woke up partially under the bed, with the

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>room and disarray and my mother fuming in the doorway.

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 1>She was mid stream yeiling at me, and when she

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>realized I was listening, which brought on a spiel about

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>my boss contacting her over missed work and how how

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was she supposed to explain that. My mom, still seeming,

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>explained the calendar days to me and eventually answered as

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to why she was so angry. Turns out I spent

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole time flopping around my sister's room as well

0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>as sleeping. On one of those days, she was concerned

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and tried feeding me water, to which I allegedly screamed

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.399
<v Speaker 1>at her, keep your water off of me, you filthy whore,

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and then proceeded to lick my own face wildly. Mind you,

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I had not eat and drank or relieve myself, and

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>more importantly, my mama is close to a saint. I

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>was utterly confused by all of her news, and I

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>made amends during the day, slept a ton more, and

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.760
<v Speaker 1>eventually turned back to YouTube for my bedtime routine. Here's

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 1>the very disconcerting part. The very disconcerting part. I went

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>to the last video I started nights earlier. Within the comments,

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>someone said they had ran some frequency meter and was

0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>learning the creator that the frequency stated was off just

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 1>so and was instead broadcasting something demonic. I know nothing

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of these things. The creator simply replied that he or

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 1>she would look into it, But those comments were posted

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>a long time before I found myself reading them. Because

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of this, I'm still terrified of that genre. I'm thinking

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>she means a genre of YouTube video and the irresponsibility

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>or malintent of people streaming it. I grew up a

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 1>strict nondenominational Christian. We're talking an unbending schedule of at

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>least nine hours of church a week, disregarding the thirty

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>minute drive each way. There were things about the Bible

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.480
<v Speaker 1>which seems so unjust and terrifying to me, and the

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 1>idea of being possessed is always one of them. And

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 1>yet I think in a way I found myself full circle.

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful you or your least listeners could shed sub

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>light on the matter. Who Yeah, yeah, I have a

0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:09.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of thoughts on this one. Uh. Do you guys

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>know of these videos by any chance? Because I wasn't

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>really familiar. I've heard of them, but not I've never

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>like investigated them, but I do. I think I found

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.120
<v Speaker 1>them when we were talking about a s m R.

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.240
<v Speaker 1>A few years ago and found some of the like, um,

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>the beta wave, things that are supposed to be like

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.319
<v Speaker 1>talking about it a little bit because um, that's what

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Denise Richard's husband does. I think I was, And it's

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the sound baths and stuff like that. I think like

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.359
<v Speaker 1>some of the one that's like the peaceful frequency. So

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I watched a bunch of videos that were like whatever

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>it was, forty six hurts or something, um, and it

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound peaceful. It sounds like somebody doing a sound test.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.839
<v Speaker 1>It's just like whoop. And it's funny because people put

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>it over new age music because it's like this relaxing tone,

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but then it just sounds like an alarm or something

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>interrupting new age music. It's not very relaxing. Doesn't it

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>defeat the purpose if you're playing music in the middle

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>of it, like you're not getting a pure tone. Well,

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you can get the pure tone if you want it.

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I would say I didn't. I didn't feel the effects

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of the tone. Although I think tones can be very powerful.

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I believe in like the power of you know, ancient

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>drone music and stuff like that. I think music and

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 1>sound can do things to your brain, can do things

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 1>to your brain waves. Yeah, I have a couple of

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.000
<v Speaker 1>like audio like there it's a podcast that has like

0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 1>a free yoga class on it. It's basically audio. And

0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I was never listening to one of them all the

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>way through because like the thing would be over and

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I just turned it off. And then I did one

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 1>day and I realized that there was like a sound

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>bass sequence at the end of it. So it was

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>playing on my speakers and I accidentally I'm sitting there

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in savasana and like suddenly like and it's really intense,

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>like even just over my speakers on a podcast, it

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>was like this sort of vibrat sational thing where I

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, like you kind of feel I mean, it

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 1>is a peaceful feeling, but it's it definitely has a

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>physiological effect on you. Um. And that's not even in person.

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>That's not even being in some specially constructed acoustic setting.

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>But like this is a YouTube video that she's talking about,

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 1>like this is playing over laptop speakers. I used to

0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>listen to white noise um like like rainfall, and I

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.320
<v Speaker 1>would do the YouTube videos because they I could notice

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 1>when the sound resets and it would like, you know,

0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>just I didn't like that because I would start identifying

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like different beats in the little clip that they were using.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So I found a YouTube of like a ten or

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:43.319
<v Speaker 1>eleven hour long UM thunderstorm, and it was great like

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of times, but then I started I

0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if it was I think I was just

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>being a little cuckoo, but I started listening and like

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:54.840
<v Speaker 1>hearing stuff under it um and then I was really

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>freaked out and I didn't want to listen to it anymore.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But we've we've talked so much on this podcast ab

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>out YouTube and how YouTube is just I mean, if

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>if there is the possibility of demonic possession, it would

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 1>for sure exist on YouTube. That's like the first step.

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And if subliminal messaging does work in any way, they're

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely people trying subliminal messaging because it's so unregulated. I

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like you've talked a lot about how much insane

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.959
<v Speaker 1>stuff there is that comes up for kids. That's why

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm so I'm so suspicious of YouTube all the time.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I just remember, I mean, it was a real whole

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>arc of like my son watching the truck videos, the

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>truck music videos, and he was really getting a lot

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Then he was also doing some like

0:46:39.160 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>learning videos, and then all of a sudden you just

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>noticed that there would be these slight links between this

0:46:44.840 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>video and the next video. And I mean, the the

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff he saw was super, super, super concerning, to the

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>point where I think, if you haven't seen those things,

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you read what people write about them and think that

0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they're like suburban women losing their ship over nothing, or

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like conspiracy theories. Legitimately, it was hard to even understand

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like what these videos, what their purpose was right now,

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they're legitimately super scary. And the way the YouTube videos

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 1>just flow into each other, don't you know, just keep

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.800
<v Speaker 1>loading new things and they all eventually funnel you to

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like Ben Shapiro, because that's how they're algorithm. It's also,

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:26.160
<v Speaker 1>though even not even scarier than Bench Shapiro, but like

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>in a in a whole different realm of scariness are

0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the videos that are just strange, like the ones that

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about, you know, like what driver tors and

0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like what people think those are sweet peach exactly, um,

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you start thinking about like one some of

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 1>the ones that my son was watching were um, like cars,

0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>video game cars just driving off cliffs and exploding and

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 1>like you're just like what why, like what's being here?

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Or like the ones that just seem off and you're

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.719
<v Speaker 1>but otherwise are just kind of like there's nothing happening,

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>there's no clear purpose, there's no narrative of it just

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>seems designed to kind of leave an impression and it's

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>just like an experiment on their brains because who knows,

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just clockwork orange. But like, I still feel like

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a difference between that stuff about that kind of

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 1>possibly AI generated content, Like some of those YouTube videos

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like they're doing the kind of SEO for like

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>basically what children, like the ultimate channel ers of it

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:37.600
<v Speaker 1>are requesting on YouTube. So they're like, oh, we have

0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of searches for truck exploding into flames. Let's

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>make a c g I video of a truck exploding

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 1>into flames. We can get those views from all those

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>eight year olds, Like, which is you know, very weird

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and just consider on its own, but you can kind

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of like connect some dots that are still upsetting. But

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like I do think that, like in a very unscientific way,

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there is a possibility of like some

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>of these tone videos at least like in the way

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that meditation can kind of you know, provide some clarity

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:11.759
<v Speaker 1>or you can have epiphanies or whatever from meditation or

0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 1>from any kind of therapy. To honestly, like, I would

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 1>not rule out the possibility, Like I think that there's

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the context of her having grown up in

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a non and nominational Christian household and going to church

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>nine hours a week and having you know, even if

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>she is like not a fan of that, the idea

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of demonic possession, like that stuff gets planted in your

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>subconscious so hard if especially if you grow up with

0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it as a child. And I think like, even if

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't subscribe to that now, I just like it's

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:47.560
<v Speaker 1>really frightening to think that that could manifest itself in

0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>some way because you're in some kind of liminal or

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:53.600
<v Speaker 1>meditative state or whatever, and that you know, that stuff

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that is in your nightmare fuel basically for the rest

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of your life kind of comes to the surface, right.

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>And again that's like what's so scared worry about the

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>human brain is like you can't necessarily control it, and

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:09.640
<v Speaker 1>the idea that somebody else might be trying to control it. Uh.

0:50:09.840 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I obviously do believe that there are people making YouTube

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to try and hypnotize you into whatever. And I do

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:21.400
<v Speaker 1>think that like, yes, something gets you in a vulnerable,

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 1>semi hypnotic state, and you have grown up with this

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 1>idea of demonic possession. But also maybe she was possessed

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>by a demon. I mean, I also just think that

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 1>there are possible explanations for this that are not demonic possession. Um.

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 1>And definitely I believe the emailer that her mom is

0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 1>nice and patient and great, but I also think that

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:54.800
<v Speaker 1>it's possible sometimes in extremely religious households to ignore things,

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>um that our health or mental health related, and they

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:04.280
<v Speaker 1>kind become, you know, what appears to be a demonic possession.

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But I know totally yeah, not to diagnose the email

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.040
<v Speaker 1>or at all or anything. But there's also I mean, seizures,

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>for instance, high flavers, things like that if if someone

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>refuses to take you to a doctor again not saying

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>that that's what happened, religious faces, perhaps even a panic attack, um,

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, anything dissociative, and it's just a scary feeling

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to feel like you are losing control of your brain

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 1>or can't trust your own brain. And it's made scarier

0:51:37.239 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>if the person who's carrier under isn't willing maybe to

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:47.359
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that that could be the problem, and instead, you know,

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 1>it assigns some kind of more supernatural or like evil

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of explanation for it, which I think can only

0:51:56.480 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>compound any panic attack or what ever that you might

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>be going through at the time, or any you know,

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>just sort of dissociative state. It's also I mean, you

0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the color mentioned that, or the emailer mentioned that

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 1>they were having trouble sleeping, and this kind of stuff

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>can also happen if you even if you think that

0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:17.760
<v Speaker 1>you've been sleeping, if you feel like you haven't been sleeping,

0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:20.319
<v Speaker 1>but you know, there are times when you feel like

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you must have slept some but you're not actually really

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.720
<v Speaker 1>falling asleep. After a few days of that, it wouldn't

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 1>really be like that outside of the realm of possibility

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>that you would disassociate so much that your behavior would

0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:38.000
<v Speaker 1>seem like what you're describing. You know. Yeah, I think

0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:41.759
<v Speaker 1>it's a generally safe and not at all paranoid rule

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:46.319
<v Speaker 1>thumb maybe to not fall asleep with YouTube that is

0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>that is very true. I mean that's what I felt

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like eventually, I was like, you know, you're in a

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 1>very suggestive state when you're trying to fall asleep. And

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 1>then you know, when I started, like here, when I

0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.440
<v Speaker 1>started thinking I hear stuff underneath. That's that's partially because

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 1>when you listen to white noise, like, that's what happens

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 1>is that if you're having trouble falling asleep, especially, you

0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 1>start to identify things that are annoying, that are keeping

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you up in the track. That's mental well you and

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I think you know with YouTube, like someone might have

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 1>even just been having a laugh with being like you're

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:20.880
<v Speaker 1>some relaxing noises and every so off and offen in

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like and kind of keep you away. And maybe it

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.640
<v Speaker 1>was just a natural thunderstorm noise, but your brain was

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:30.800
<v Speaker 1>interpreting it as creepy in some way. That's almost certainly

0:53:30.840 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 1>what it was. I mean, but I don't know. Do

0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I recommend, because I have gone through

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the same thing is explore dot org as I always

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 1>recommend the live Earth cams. You can often find one

0:53:43.600 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that's like an actual nature sound and it will just yeah,

0:53:49.640 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>because I have the same problem with like, once I

0:53:51.440 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>you're looping, it doesn't relax me ever again, Yeah, yeah,

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.439
<v Speaker 1>you you realize you're in a in a simulacrum. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the storm or whatever. I wonder if the demonic tones

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<v Speaker 1>thing though, because friend of the pod, Carter Cruz, also

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about somebody who she was following who talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how like E d M has demonic a demonic

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<v Speaker 1>note in it, and there was like this demonic note

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<v Speaker 1>sort of conspiracy that again, I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the like the Devil's like the tri tone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>basically I want to know what this note sounds. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the demonic note sounds. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you should find it him. I think the demonic tri tone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just making me imagine like a Dracula church organ,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just some minor keys. Probably I'm gonna trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find it. That's it right there, That's that's the

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<v Speaker 1>demonic Yeah, totally. The sound of garbage truck we just

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<v Speaker 1>got it. Wheeling is a demonic tone. But it's like

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<v Speaker 1>anything can become demonic. Remember when we had the whole

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream truck sagay up early on in the podcast, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who's getting sent the sound of an ice cream

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<v Speaker 1>truck and it's just one of the creepiest things for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, because it's so North Carolina that I heard

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<v Speaker 1>that one all the time. The Hello on the ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream truck and anything can get creepy if it's repeated enough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just also think tempo, you know, like very

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<v Speaker 1>fast music makes me feel stressed out. Uh, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>want that. There's another thing that's like the sound of

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<v Speaker 1>falling downstairs. It's like the permanent spiral. It's a musical thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They do it in a Mario game for an endless staircase.

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<v Speaker 1>It is basically just it just sounds like it's going

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<v Speaker 1>down always, but it's always just the same. Uh. If

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<v Speaker 1>you know anything else about demonic music or music and

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<v Speaker 1>hypnosis at Double Tones, you should give us a nightcall

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<v Speaker 1>about it at two four oh for ace I site. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and also if you have any uh insight on on

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<v Speaker 1>this color's experience with the alpha and gamma tones in

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube slash any um suspected demonic possessions yourself? Um, please

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<v Speaker 1>let us know all about that. I also feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you can feel like you're being possessed when you have

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<v Speaker 1>the sleep demon sitting on your chest. Do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>get trapped in like a like a nap and you

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<v Speaker 1>try to wake up and like sleep paralysis that can

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<v Speaker 1>feel like possession to me, where you're like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of a dream. Nightmare on Elm Street stylie. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>I never really had that before. Dodge that one. Well,

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