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Speaker 1: How you know what?

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Speaker 2: Everyone? Welcome to the Get Loud podcast for is anybody

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Speaker 2: seek Gek the official taken a partner of your Washington commanders?

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Speaker 1: Smooth jinks we can get loud? That baby, Oh yes

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Speaker 1: we can. Is finally over? Like I feel good when

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Speaker 1: the draft is over. For like three months all we.

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Speaker 2: Do is guess. Don't you get tired of it?

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Speaker 3: After I do my like two hundreds mock dram I'm

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Speaker 3: not ready to go. I'm like tired of seeing the names.

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Speaker 3: I want to know who's gonna be wearing?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: How many mock drafts did you actually do?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I know it was a lot on the

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Speaker 1: draft simulator.

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Speaker 3: I probably did it two hundred and twenty times.

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Speaker 2: Did you really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like I like, I go back and forth, back and forth,

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Speaker 3: because you know, as we go, is the process start

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Speaker 3: some guys?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Some guys might not test whale, some guys might not

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Speaker 3: So really, I do post combine, I mean pre combined

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Speaker 1: Okay, and this I go one hundred before and one

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Speaker 2: Years ago, when I was in TV, I was talking

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Speaker 2: to a fantasy draft expert. Right, we had them on

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Speaker 2: the show and we asked him. I asked him, I said,

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Speaker 2: how many fantasy teams do you actually have? And without hesitation,

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Speaker 2: he goes forty seven. I was like, forty seven fantasy teams.

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Speaker 2: But I guess if you're a guru.

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Speaker 3: I've been saying, you can only be a guru by

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Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah, like over and over and over again.

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Speaker 3: And that's why these guys get drafted, because they learn

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Speaker 3: a skill and they do it over and over and

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Speaker 3: over again. So at the end of the day, repetition

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Speaker 3: is everything.

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Speaker 2: My friend, Well, we were at Franklin Hall and d C.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, full the Draftlands Hall.

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Speaker 2: You love I love it.

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Speaker 1: My favorite story, my favorite.

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Speaker 2: Guy him, the fathers that built this And now you're

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Speaker 2: making me want to do more research based on what

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Speaker 2: you found.

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Speaker 1: Because he's such an intellectual, he's such a like. The

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Speaker 1: dude was totally different.

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Speaker 3: It's a reason why he's over one hundred dollars bill

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Speaker 3: and was never president.

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Speaker 1: That's right. What he did for this country can't be

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Speaker 1: put into words. He is the father of all fathers.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were there, you were telling me

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Speaker 2: about Ben Franklin before the draft, and then once the

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Speaker 2: the first round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was a great atmosphere. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: to see everyone cheering and on the same page. That's

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Speaker 2: something i'ven't experienced with this team in a long time.

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Speaker 2: It was it was a real experience.

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Speaker 3: It was electric. Yeah, you could feel the tension in

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Speaker 3: the air. It was excitement. It was people like Jaydon Daiels,

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Speaker 3: Drake may like it was, but it exploded when we

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Speaker 3: that it is a new area around here.

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Speaker 1: They do feel that. We do.

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Speaker 3: Got a new GM, new head coach, new ownership, knew everything.

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Speaker 3: So I feel good for them because for a long

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Speaker 3: and now we can see the sunshine.

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Speaker 1: Baby, it's ninety degrees out of the day, jas any degrees.

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Speaker 2: It feels good. And it was. It was that experience

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Speaker 2: where you could feel everyone saying, we all feel this

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Speaker 2: fresh start. And even those people who wanted Drake Man

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Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I want a Drake made,

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Speaker 2: But now I'm all in on Daniels. This is our quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We we have been fractured for so long.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when we walked in There was one we was

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Speaker 3: he say the fans would talking to him like when

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Speaker 1: That's so true.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny that the fans were feeling the disrespect

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Speaker 1: It's a whole different respect level. And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Now you can tell whether it's locally, Philip. There were

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Speaker 2: But everyone was saying, even the national media quietly, look

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, you only get you

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Speaker 3: don't give respect, you earn it.

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Speaker 1: And we're earning respect right now.

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Speaker 2: What it certainly helps to get a guy like Jaden

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Speaker 2: Daniels and coming up here in the we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to Tom Louganville ESPN. We're gonna bring him in because

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Speaker 3: Very pleased because what Peters did in free agents. Free

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say best play.

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Speaker 1: We're not prisoner to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Like.

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Speaker 3: I hate teams that go into the draft and say,

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Speaker 3: hick on my needs, I'm finna filled them. First of all,

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Speaker 3: just because you draft somebody don't mean you feel that need.

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Speaker 3: You don't know if he can play on this level yet.

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Speaker 3: Somebody spent the number ten pick on the offensive line

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Speaker 1: Did you feel the need?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: But you did do a lot of draft capital.

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Speaker 3: So I like people that trust they board, And what

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Speaker 3: I seen from my guys was I trust my board.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the guys I want and all our guys.

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Speaker 3: If you look at their athletics score, yep, all over

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Speaker 3: Over fifty fifteen hundred snaps at TCU, he gave up

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Speaker 1: Is my guy? I want to get my guys.

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Speaker 3: And so now now we're starting to get a feel

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Speaker 3: if you looked at these guys, Mike sanderstal and my

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Speaker 1: Steal, I love him, listen, love him, watch him. He's

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Speaker 3: They won a national championship for a reason, and he

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Speaker 1: That you have to have.

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Speaker 2: And I'm glad you brought up a point about Coleman

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Speaker 2: fact that a new offensive coordinator had to adjust to

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Speaker 2: that old line, and Coma did. But I got a

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Speaker 3: First of all, I say, first round talent, yes, And

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Speaker 3: like they said, I trust my board. My board said

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, best play available with not

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Speaker 3: third wave of free agency. It's gonna be a third

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Speaker 1: Then you plug and play like we have a plan.

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Speaker 3: Trust the process, Oh, don't forget out on the Philadelphy

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Speaker 1: The process, my friend.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I was gonna say when you're talking

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Speaker 3: No, no it's not. And this is what you need

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Speaker 1: But you know, it takes ingredients, it takes love.

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Speaker 3: You gotta put it in his food, and it's a

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Speaker 3: And that's why I would rather have Grandmama's meal because

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Speaker 3: Grandmama tookkut time.

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Speaker 1: She made it from scratch.

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Speaker 3: And Adam Peters is the big bad Grandmoma right now

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Speaker 3: and he is making it from scratch.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to Louganville, Tom Louganville here in the second.

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Speaker 2: But can I say how much I love Mikey Sindris still.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this cat can absolute plat Nick Saban said

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Speaker 2: on I forget powerful, pound for pound, could be the

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Speaker 1: Football at the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: He makes plays like I always care like I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not any of that. Put on turn the film on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see a football player play football.

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Speaker 3: And if you watch this kid play football, all he

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Speaker 3: does is make plays. I'm talking about blitzing. I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about in the past game and he a physical tackle.

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Speaker 3: Don't think that because he's five nine, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: eighty pounds he won't come up and give you the business.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he will give you the business.

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Speaker 3: I love all of these players are drafted, plug and play.

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Speaker 3: But my favorite out of this bunch could be being snat.

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Speaker 1: Am I saying that? What Am I saying that? Right?

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Speaker 2: I think get senate.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I like snot because it's close to snot and I

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: But his story is this. He was a walk on.

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Speaker 1: He's a walk on that developed into that number one

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Speaker 2: the pod. Tom, thanks for being here. And I didn't

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Speaker 6: Well, well, back then, guys, he was about one hundred

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Speaker 2: Well, Tom, that leads right into my next question, which

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Speaker 6: Maybe it's that ability to recognize when there's that open

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Speaker 6: And then each and every week you encounter that next

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Speaker 6: But it was Bill Parcells that used to say this.

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Speaker 6: He is your Swiss army knife, and they're just there's

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Speaker 6: COVID year and the extra year of eligibility and name,

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Speaker 6: image and likeness, and what that's done is it is,

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Speaker 6: you know, negatively affected what would normally be your talent

445
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Speaker 6: pool in rounds four through seven. So now rounds four

446
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Speaker 6: through seven are much leaner because those players that would

447
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Speaker 6: normally be there are still in college for you know,

448
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Speaker 6: a couple of reasons like I just mentioned, So your

449
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Speaker 6: evaluation efforts and the scrutiny is gonna get ramped up

450
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Speaker 6: that much more because we've all you know, we've heard

451
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Speaker 6: the old saying that you know, you build your team

452
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Speaker 6: in round four through seven, and you know, whether it's

453
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Speaker 6: special teams or somebody emerging, or you hit on a

454
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Speaker 6: guy that was a late round pick and he ends

455
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Speaker 6: up playing like.

456
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Speaker 4: An All pro.

457
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Speaker 6: But that's becoming harder, particularly in this draft class, because of.

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Speaker 4: What I've mentioned happened at the college level.

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Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey is so interesting, and we know about his

460
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Speaker 2: lineage tom, but he also just started playing the position

461
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Speaker 2: two years ago. So you think about a guy who

462
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Speaker 2: maybe polishes his route running, then all of a sudden,

463
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Speaker 2: his potential to be great is he's got a longer

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Speaker 2: runway than a lot of prospects out there.

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Speaker 4: High high ceiling.

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Speaker 6: Now, he's a kid that came out of high school

467
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Speaker 6: that some programs recruited him as an athlete and some

468
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Speaker 6: programs recruited him as a quarterback. And I think he

469
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Speaker 6: really wanted to try his hand at quarterback, one of

470
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Speaker 6: the reasons why he went to Nebraska saw some time,

471
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Speaker 6: but it didn't quite work out there.

472
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Speaker 4: So what does he do. He bets on himself.

473
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Speaker 6: He pushes his ego in his private side, and he says,

474
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Speaker 6: maybe my best opportunity to work my way into the

475
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Speaker 6: next level is to transition to another position. And that's

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Speaker 6: why I say the high ceiling is there, because there's

477
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Speaker 6: so much to develop. No, he's not your normal three

478
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Speaker 6: four fifth year guy that's been playing the positions for

479
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Speaker 6: the position for three or four years old. Came out

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Speaker 6: of high school naturally having played the position. So to me,

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Speaker 6: I don't see a lot of downside in that the

482
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Speaker 6: timing of it. You know, anybody can argue when a

483
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Speaker 6: guy gets taken whether.

484
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Speaker 4: It's too high or too low.

485
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Speaker 6: But I see the long term value and I think

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Speaker 6: that's the one thing that you have to invest into

487
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Speaker 6: some degree. If there's a talent profile there that checks

488
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Speaker 6: your boxes, and there's something you really like and he's

489
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Speaker 6: not a finished product, then that's got to excite you

490
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Speaker 6: as a coaching staff and as a personnel department.

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Speaker 3: And the guys almost six y too had one of

492
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Speaker 3: the second fastest short shuttle since Jackson Smith and Jigma,

493
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Speaker 3: So that tells me. And this is why people any

494
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Speaker 3: time they evoke his name they say pooking the cool.

495
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Speaker 3: He minds them of pooking the cool with his body

496
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Speaker 3: control in his quick short shuttle. But it also sends

497
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Speaker 3: me to Brandon Coleman because everybody say you didn't feel

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Speaker 3: the gap at tackle.

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Speaker 1: I believe we did.

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Speaker 3: This is a guy that had fifteen hundred snaps, gave

501
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Speaker 3: up three sacks and fifty five Russians. So at the

502
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Speaker 3: end of the day, I think we got some there.

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Speaker 3: The question is is he a tackle easy A gord.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, I think that if you find.

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Speaker 6: Out that it's too much early on at tackle, aside

506
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Speaker 6: them inside doesn't mean that they can't do it right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can always push them back out.

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Speaker 6: I've always looked at the draft in the sense that

509
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Speaker 6: there's always going to be four premium positions. There's going

510
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Speaker 6: to be quarterback, offensive tackle, defensive line, and cornerback. Right,

511
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Speaker 6: those four are not standing on every street corner and

512
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Speaker 6: there's not enough of them, and everybody wants them. Case

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Speaker 6: in point, in this particular draft pool, there were seventeen

514
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Speaker 6: offensive tackles that got taken in the top three rounds. Like,

515
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Speaker 6: that's an astronomically large number. Well, why did they all

516
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Speaker 6: go so high? Because there's not enough of them to

517
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Speaker 6: go around. I think everybody that invested in an offensive

518
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Speaker 6: lineman is going to feel really good about their investment

519
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Speaker 6: because there was such a deep class. Now, this could

520
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Speaker 6: be cyclical, right for what just took place, you know,

521
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Speaker 6: in the twenty twenty four draft.

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Speaker 4: It might be a down year next year the twenty

523
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Speaker 4: five drafts, but maybe it doesn't pop back up.

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Speaker 6: So teams have got to realize that and they've got

525
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Speaker 6: to look at it and hey, these numbers are not normal,

526
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Speaker 6: So while they're here, we better go get ourselves one.

527
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Speaker 4: And so I agree with you. I think it's a

528
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Speaker 4: good pick.

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Speaker 6: I think the offensive line class was particularly strong, which

530
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Speaker 6: is generally rare.

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Speaker 4: It's not, you know, usually as deep as this one.

532
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Speaker 6: And everybody talks about wide receivers in the wide receiving class,

533
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Speaker 6: and it's it's good, don't get me wrong.

534
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Speaker 4: Fact it could be really good, but there's so many

535
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Speaker 4: of them.

536
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Speaker 6: Like I could throw a rock outside my office right

537
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Speaker 6: now and hit a wide receiver in the head right.

538
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Speaker 4: There, everywhere.

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Speaker 6: But if I try to do that with an offensive

540
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Speaker 6: tackle or a pass rusher, that rock's probably gonna hit

541
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Speaker 6: the ground.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's where the value comes in.

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Speaker 2: The team looked at probably on offensive line, but with

544
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Speaker 2: a thirty sixth overall pick, and I think a lot

545
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Speaker 2: of fans thought that's where this team is going to go.

546
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Speaker 2: But they found so much value in Johnny Newton, who

547
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Speaker 2: had first round potential easily. So what does he bring

548
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Speaker 2: to the table?

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Speaker 4: Talk about the defensive tackle?

550
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I had I.

551
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Speaker 6: Had Illinois broadcast of the game Brett Beemer's first year there.

552
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Speaker 4: And he was along the front and.

553
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 6: Nobody knew about him, and you turn on the tape

554
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Speaker 6: and you're not, who in the world is this guy?

555
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Speaker 6: I mean he was a handful and so again, premium

556
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Speaker 6: value position. A guy that can not only not only

557
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Speaker 6: anchor at the point of attack, but I think he's

558
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Speaker 6: much more disruptive than he gets credit for. Meaning this

559
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Speaker 6: that some guys that are going to fill a spot

560
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Speaker 6: for you as a one technique or over the nose

561
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Speaker 6: as a zero, more active, more penetrating guy might be

562
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Speaker 6: at the three. But those guys that are closer to

563
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 6: the center of the football generally gonna be the guys

564
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Speaker 6: that maybe don't play on each and every down.

565
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Speaker 4: They may be a little bit more situational based off

566
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Speaker 4: of their body type.

567
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Speaker 6: I think I don't think his quickness in his first

568
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Speaker 6: step explosiveness probably gets as much credit as he deserves.

569
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Speaker 6: So again, I placed a ton of value up front

570
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Speaker 6: on both sides of the bombing guys. Not through championship programs.

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Speaker 6: Championship franchises are built. They're built from the inside out.

572
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Speaker 6: And that's not just in football, that's an inexport. So again,

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Speaker 6: you know, the last few guys we've talked about, two

574
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Speaker 6: of them are in the trenches on either side of

575
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Speaker 6: the football, and that's a big deal. And then the

576
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Speaker 6: other one is Jaden Daniels. So you're talking about three players.

577
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Speaker 6: It's close to the football at premium positions as you

578
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Speaker 6: can possibly get. That's a great foundation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and when I look at it. When you say foundation,

580
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Speaker 3: it makes me think. What comes to mind is I

581
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Speaker 3: think about Terry mcluwin. I think about Jahann Dotson, I

582
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Speaker 3: think about add and Luke McCaffrey. I think about our

583
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Speaker 3: running back situation with Brian Robinson and Zach Ert said

584
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Speaker 3: tight end. Do you think that we've set Jayde Daniels

585
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Speaker 3: up with the people around him to be successful in

586
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Speaker 3: his rookie year? Do you foresee it taken a while

587
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Speaker 3: for him to get to speed eat at office. Do

588
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Speaker 3: you think he'll hit the ground running.

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Speaker 6: I think he's in a much better situation with the

590
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Speaker 6: people around him than let's just say, Drake may is.

591
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Speaker 6: I think Drake May and the New England Patriots have

592
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Speaker 6: bigger holes around the quarterback. I like what Chicago did

593
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Speaker 6: around Caleb Williams, particularly taking Roman Donze. So now they

594
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Speaker 6: have a Keenan Allen, they got a DJ More and

595
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Speaker 6: then you've got the young, exciting White House. So they've

596
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Speaker 6: done a good job of upgrading around him. But for Jayden,

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Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of not only having weapons

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Speaker 6: and proven players that have shown their worth and there's

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Speaker 6: a large sample size, but I also think you got

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Speaker 6: to couple it with the scheme too, right, you got

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Speaker 6: to scheme people up.

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Speaker 4: The offensive football is about creating this matches.

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Speaker 6: How do I get my best guy on your worst guy,

604
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Speaker 6: and then making sure we're doing what the quarterback is

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Speaker 6: comfortable with.

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Speaker 4: Now, I think we also got to acknowledge it.

607
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Speaker 6: No matter how talented a quarterback is, no matter how

608
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Speaker 6: ready they are, it's still somewhat of a crapshoot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you look. I think I saw a

610
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Speaker 4: study the other day of of.

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Speaker 6: All of the top ten quarterbacks taken in the last

612
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Speaker 6: twenty years, only four of them were unanimously.

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Speaker 4: Voted All Pro.

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Speaker 6: Like, that's a pretty staggering number, right, And so when

615
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Speaker 6: you see that, you realize that, man.

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Speaker 4: This is really really hard. And I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of stars have to align.

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Speaker 6: You got to be in the right situation at the

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Speaker 6: right time with the coach that believes and yet a

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Speaker 6: coordinator that's going to do what you do best. Good

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Speaker 6: players around you have the ball bounce you away a

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Speaker 6: little bit, and then you, as the player to me,

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Speaker 6: have to have a tremendous amount of mental toughness and

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Speaker 6: emotional stability. Because I don't care who you are, you

625
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Speaker 6: can be the best of the best at the collegiate level,

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Speaker 6: and you move on to that next level and guess what,

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Speaker 6: there's less than four percent of the entire human population

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Speaker 6: that is playing in that level.

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Speaker 4: So you gotta recognize that there's going to be bumps

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Speaker 4: from the road.

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Speaker 6: That first two years of Peyton Manning was brutal, if

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Speaker 6: you guys all remember, right, and then all of a

633
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Speaker 6: sudden start build. That guy's got some mental toughness. He

634
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Speaker 6: hung in there, he believed got some better players around him.

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Speaker 6: That's where I think Jade and Daniels emotionally is well suited.

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Speaker 6: He's been through the ups, he's been through the downs.

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Speaker 6: We've talked about the experience he's seen the highs. Winning

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Speaker 6: the Heisman Trophy looked like he didn't even know what

639
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Speaker 6: was gonna happen with his career when he left Arizona State.

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Speaker 6: So there's a lot of life experiences that I think

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Speaker 6: will bode well in the transition of the National Football League.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I say all the time, eight billion

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Speaker 3: peoples on the planet, we haven't found thirty two quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: in the same year yet, Nope, will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to number lost. I try too.

670
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: So when you look at the rest of this draft, yep,

671
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: at least in the late rounds. And I know you

672
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: never know when you're talking about later on the draft.

673
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: It's always a little bit of a crapshoot. But is

674
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: there anyone that you really like?

675
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: Particularly Temple linebacker Hicks. To me, he plays with an edge,

676
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: he plays downhill, and he's the perfect understudy to put

677
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: behind Wagman, Like he's the perfect understudy and say, hey,

678
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: you learn from this veteran and now like, that's what

679
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: I love like when you, like everybody say, late round

680
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 3: draft picks don't matter.

681
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: Late round draft picks are yours.

682
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: They are your team because at one point, when you

683
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 3: have a star in a position, you know, the one

684
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: thing Father time has never been defeated, he will age

685
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: out of the position and you need to have somebody

686
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: ready to plug and play. And that's why I always say,

687
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 3: if you're a real good drafting team, you don't draft

688
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: for now, you draft for the future.

689
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Speaker 1: And he's one of those.

690
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: Future pieces that I could see saying, you know what,

691
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: we might've got this guy in the late round, but

692
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: this guy is a player I've seen this. Don't forget

693
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: Antonio Pearce came in our you're an undrafted free agent,

694
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: went on to win a Super Bowl and leading a

695
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: defense of the New York Giants.

696
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: It ain't where you start, it's where you finished. And

697
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: not only that, you're talking about a captain of his team. Yeah,

698
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: has great measurables. And there will be a place for

699
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: you on special team.

700
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Most definitely, And it'll be a place for you when

701
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: the season started because people gonna get hurt, that's guaranteed,

702
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: and you will have a chance to step in there.

703
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: You will have a chance to play. And that's what

704
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: I like about all the players in I draft. If

705
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 3: they're forced into the war, they'll be ready. They'll be ready.

706
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: Which player, Well, you know what? I want to ask

707
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: this first, because we've heard a lot of people react.

708
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: I haven't gotten your reaction. Yeah, when Michael Pennix Junior

709
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: was selected by the Falcons, Yeah, can you make a

710
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: case for this.

711
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

712
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough.

713
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't.

714
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's talk about this Falcons team last year.

715
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 3: This Falcons team last year had no offense. They had

716
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: a good defense, and they had a good special teams,

717
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: a great offensive line. They have Drake London at wide receiver.

718
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: It got Kyle Pince that tight end, they got Bjon Obviously,

719
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: they're running back. They are solidified in most of their positions.

720
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Speaker 1: All right.

721
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: They have a thirty six year old quarterback that's coming

722
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Speaker 3: out of achilles tear.

723
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Speaker 1: All right.

724
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, the end is closer

725
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: than the middle for Kirk and they understand, and that

726
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: why they say were taking the green Bay approach.

727
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: Let's be honest.

728
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: Green Bay has had close to forty five consecutive years

729
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: of Pro Bowl quarterback.

730
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: That's true.

731
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: Jordan Lovelo gredit second half. What I'm telling you is

732
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: and they FENI extend that right. So they've been in

733
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: quarterback purgatory. And we just talk about this year's draft

734
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: might not be next year's draft, like next year's draft

735
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: might not have any quarterbacks in it. You don't know,

736
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: We've had those years. So they said, you know what,

737
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 3: and this is what I hear. Michael Penix was number

738
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Speaker 3: two on their draft board. Wow, so if he number

739
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Speaker 3: two on your draft board and you can get him

740
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Speaker 3: in nine, get him at nine, and think about it.

741
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Speaker 3: Quarterback coming off of a Chilles tear, ain't non guarantee

742
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Speaker 3: he Kirk stays healthy for the rest of the earth. So

743
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Speaker 3: I'm not mad at the Michael pere Is. I'm not

744
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: mad when people invest in the future. I think everybody's

745
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: so caught up on now. Can we not say definitively right,

746
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: the best team in the NFC South right now.

747
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: Is the Falcons. They are all right, did well? What's

748
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: the problem?

749
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Speaker 2: I guess the problem is they're favored to win the

750
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: South now, whether or not that happens, but it.

751
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Speaker 1: Won't be the Palthers. Tampa Bay is the only team club.

752
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: It's just a bad division. Yeah, But ultimately, if you're

753
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: this good right now, particularly on offense, why wouldn't you

754
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: add a stud defensive piece if you want to win now?

755
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 3: Ain't no guarantee that stud defensive piece gonna bring any

756
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: thing to the table. Like then here go the thing.

757
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to say this, but frend Smooth is on

758
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: his man. Okay, I thirty two first round draft picks.

759
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Speaker 3: Do you think all thirty two.

760
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Speaker 1: Is gonna be good?

761
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, all right, did so just because

762
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: they drafted a defensive player, don't make him any.

763
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Speaker 2: Couldn't you say the same thing about Miael whatex up?

764
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Speaker 1: I can.

765
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Speaker 3: But also Michael Penis is set up for to succeed

766
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: because he's not gonna be forced into playing early, right,

767
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 3: He's gonna be able to learn their offense.

768
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna be to make mistakes at practice.

769
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Speaker 3: He's gonna better watch and learn from Osmosis watching him

770
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: in his up and downs.

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00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: He is more set up to succeed.

772
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: Think about it, Patrick Mahone, set up to succeed, sit

773
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 3: behind Alex Smith like guys just set up to seceed.

774
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: They usually pick up Jordan Love. You just brought it up,

775
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: like one thing about the quarterback position. You gonna learn

776
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: going through the fire? Are you gonna learn watch other

777
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 3: people go through the fire?

778
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Speaker 1: Michael.

779
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Speaker 3: We won't say that was a bad draft pick two

780
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: years from now while Michael Pennick started for them, like

781
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: and then think about it offensively. That core is all young,

782
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: your core, so I can defend that pick. Was it

783
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 3: the left hook in the draft? Yes, it's sent everything's

784
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: fire like once they did that, bo Nick's moved up

785
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 3: like everything happened, The tackles jumped up, everything happened when

786
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: the Falcons went up there and said we're taking Michael Pennicks.

787
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: And the bad thing is he had to answer to

788
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: the Atlanta Press why like why did you do this?

789
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: Like then he had to turn to the owner and

790
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 3: be like, yeah, trust me, trust me.

791
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 2: So of all the teams in the draft, who are

792
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: a couple teams you thought drafted well overall?

793
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I loved the Minnesota VIKA. That's my second team.

794
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: That's my divorce.

795
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: She pix Alan between McCarthy and Turner strong.

796
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're talking about ad Dallas Turner right there.

797
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: You pass rushing JJ McCarthy in that offense with Justin

798
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: Jefferson TJ Hawkinson.

799
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: All right, and they didn't have to move up to five.

800
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: Jordan Addison at the other Wires Senate trip like Jordan

801
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: like it was two team.

802
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: Three teams.

803
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: I thought was the best landing spot from quarterbacks, and

804
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: that was Chicago because of what they did with DJ Moore,

805
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen, all those guys.

806
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: Plus they got running back Swift and all that.

807
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: And I thought Minnesota was a perfect place for a

808
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: quarterback because everything he needs is right there. And I

809
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: thought Washington was a great place for a quarterback because

810
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: we had guys for him to throw the ball to

811
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: and hand the ball off too. So I thought Minnesota

812
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: had a draft. I thought Chicago just killed it. Like

813
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you get Kayler Williams. And I'm telling people

814
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 3: right now, Roma, dudes that you know how I feel

815
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: about this love He's very much Jamar Chase two point zero. Okay,

816
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: he's very same body, bill, same athletic ability, work at

817
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: the I'm sorry Chicago hit one out the park with

818
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: that one.

819
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,720
Speaker 1: I thought they had a good draft.

820
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Eagles had a good draft.

821
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: I hated it. Listen, We've been saying this the last

822
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: three years. Eagles had a good draft.

823
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: Hey.

824
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: By the way, the Eagles had a good draft. Hey,

825
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: they had Quinn fall to him. Then they come back

826
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: and get Cooper to jewelbry So and I think he's

827
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: gonna be a safety. So they showed up there their

828
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 3: secondary for a couple of years. They even weaseled out

829
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Johnny Wilson. Did you know, you know how I felt

830
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: about Johnny Wilson, come on six six wide receiver, Like

831
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: at the least he's a red zone target, right, so

832
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: at the end of the day that the Eagles, I

833
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: have to get him their props.

834
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: They did knock it out to the park. I give him that.

835
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: I thought the Giants actually had an okay draft and

836
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: nobody wants to talk about it, but I thought they

837
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: had a good draft. So it was a tough couple

838
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: of teams stuck out to me. I thought the Raiders.

839
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: How you feel about the Raiders having Michael Myers at

840
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 3: tight end? They forget that they drafted him last year,

841
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: that's seven and now they have Brock Bowers.

842
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: They're just giving you know, here's the thing, Rock Howers.

843
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: I love Rock Powers, right, So regardless, if you got

844
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: a guy, you take a talent.

845
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you take him because it's nothing like him, right,

846
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: it's nothing like him. The yack that this guy creates,

847
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: all right, he is. He is a Mitch mess problem.

848
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: Imagine having these guys both on the field at the

849
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: same time. So now you're gonna try to mix your

850
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: safety up on Michael Myers because he's the taller one.

851
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: Yep, you're gonna put us a corner. Good luck but

852
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: good luck, yes, good.

853
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Look getting up you can check him. But good luck

854
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: getting him to the ground right after he catches the ball.

855
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying. Then you gotta look at

856
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: a team like Denver. How do you feel about Denver

857
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: the bow Knicks effect?

858
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: Listen, Sean Payton has a great history of quarterbacks, but

859
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: I feel like here they reached a little bit, but

860
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: they had to.

861
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: They like when Penis went, they did.

862
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: The problem with Denver resist is that they don't don't

863
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: want to pay the tax. They didn't want to pay

864
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: the Russ tax. Yeah, they instead of building the rest

865
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: of the team, like we got to get a QB

866
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: and you do, but you have so many other holes

867
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: what you're going to have for one, They're just gonna

868
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: be a couple of years where they're just gonna have

869
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 2: to be a bad football team because they made a

870
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: terrible trade and they don't want to do it. So

871
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: I feel like they reach for bow Knicks. Who has

872
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: the potential But at twelve, that's real life.

873
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 3: Sean Payton has been given bio parcels energy.

874
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Yes, like mean old man, my way of a high way.

875
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a curmudgeon now, Yeah, it's just like

876
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: it's not gonna work.

877
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: Oh, you're calling it out.

878
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'm telling you I jinx trivia. Okay, have it

879
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: ever been a super Bowl?

880
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: Win?

881
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: Ahead?

882
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: Coach, leave the team he won a super Bowl with

883
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: and go win a team, I mean super Bowl with

884
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 3: another team in the NFL. He that's a good point,

885
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: and shun Payton will not change history.

886
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

887
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: It's just he's broken that team down to the studs

888
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: and I don't think he has enough time to rebuild

889
00:39:59,520 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: a whole.

890
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: I just don't.

891
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: And as we see, Bill Belichick's a good example. I

892
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: don't want to bag on the guy because he's one

893
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: of the greats. But just because you're a great coach

894
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: doesn't always mean you're a great head coach. Sometimes, and

895
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's happen with Peyton yet, but sometimes

896
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: the game evolves and passes you by.

897
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: It passes you by.

898
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: And guess what, Why would you change your mythic, your

899
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: only nerve for you?

900
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys, you gotta explore Honda with this come the sophisticated,

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Speaker 2: sleek look of the CRV Hybrid and Court Hybrid coming

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Speaker 2: at you. Hanna's most powerful, electrifying vehe because yet just

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00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: hang around to Honda Dealership you'll see smooth Dah.

904
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: I'll just be hanging around.

905
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: You can conquer the unpaved road in one of Hanna's

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Speaker 2: rugged SUVs and trucks, like the Pilot Trail Sport their

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Speaker 2: most capable suv ever. Or experienced the thrilling performance of

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Speaker 2: the fund to Drive Honda Civic. Will it available turbocharged engine.

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Speaker 2: Get power, performance and ruggedness with Honda. Find the Honda

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Speaker 2: perfect for you. See your local Washington area Honda dealer today.

911
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: I might go get a motorcycle. Oh, it's tipping me

912
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: to put my hair in the wind.

913
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: It is makes everything well.

914
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 3: You know, when you get go through meet like crisis

915
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: in forty five, you need to go get a sports

916
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: car motorcycle to come build yourself back up.

917
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 2: A few years ago, my dad at seventy bought one

918
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: of those little han of crotch rockets.

919
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, Dad, what are you doing?

920
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: You're seventy eight, I'm living life.

921
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: He sold it a month later. He finally came up, like,

922
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: what am I join a biker game? That's what you're doing.

923
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: Also, our friends at Sea geek breaking news. You're gonna

924
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: want to hear. It is official. They are the official

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Speaker 2: ticketing partner of your Washington Commanders. The Dealers finalized. They

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Speaker 2: are the newest member of the Commander's family, so get

927
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: used to it. You'll be hearing that name throughout the season,

928
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: whether you're buying or selling tickets to Commanders games or

929
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: any other live event in the DMV. Seek Geek is

930
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Speaker 2: the place to do it, the official ticketing partner of

931
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Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders.

932
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Yes, sure, we talked

933
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 3: about this before the show. Okay, would you date somebody

934
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 3: with a.

935
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Job that's not real?

936
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. This is becoming more and

937
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: more of a thing because I see a lot of

938
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 2: people did you know on TikTok?

939
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: In China?

940
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: And if you are under the age of sixteen, I

941
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: believe they block you from seeing anything that isn't science

942
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: or educational related.

943
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: I did not.

944
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: So if you're a teenager right now in China and

945
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: they ask you what do you want to be when

946
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: you grow up? Their number one answer, I believe is astronaut.

947
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: Number two is engineer. In the United States, they'll let

948
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: you see everything everything. And if you ask a teenager

949
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: in the United States, what do you want to do

950
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: when you grow up? They say I want to be

951
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: an influencer.

952
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: We headed down the wrong road.

953
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: We're headed down the road. So I say that because

954
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people out there, even to

955
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 2: our teenagers. You want to be an influencer, and there

956
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: are some examples of that, but not everyone.

957
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: Can just American want the easiest job.

958
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I just want to turn on my phone and

959
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: talk and get.

960
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: Paid and go home. Right.

961
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: So now the question is, because you did say you

962
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: win and saw a psyche before many years ago, I

963
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: think a psyche this is not a real job.

964
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 1: It's not do you trust that person? Like, I don't

965
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: believe that you know my future.

966
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: And not only I don't believe that you don't know

967
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 3: my future, you don't know anybody.

968
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: Else that sets in here.

969
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: So if you met a young lady at a bar,

970
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: she was like, yeah, I'm a psychic.

971
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: No I'm not. I'm not out.

972
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm out immediately, I'm out, and I'll accept it anything.

973
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: First of all, could you say that a psychic is

974
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: a professional liar?

975
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 2: It's close because think about the things that they say.

976
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Like I was telling this when we were talking about

977
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 2: general Yes, I had a psychic tell me she's turning

978
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: over with Tariot cards. You like your job, you're good

979
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 2: at your job, You're getting a promotion in the year,

980
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 2: and almost a week to that day, I got a promotion.

981
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: But also if I naturally, if you have any job,

982
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: a decent at promotion, and especially if it had happened

983
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: within the year, wouldn't I say, see within the year.

984
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: It's amazing how they say things and you can twist

985
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: things to make it fit.

986
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: If you want to believe something. I was always told yes,

987
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: you will believe it now.

988
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: I also one night in Miami went into to see

989
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: a site. She kicked me out because I was so

990
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 3: not believe, like you, they need you to believe yes

991
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: so they can do their job.

992
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a nonbeliever.

993
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: So every time she's saying somebody like lie, lie, She's like,

994
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to leave. But I'm just saying some

995
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: job like indeed, you gotta think about this, psychics.

996
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: This job has been around for like hundreds of thousands years.

997
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm talking about sixteen hundreds.

998
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 3: I have never seen a job never time out, like

999
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: like people understand that machines are taking away jobs. Like

1000
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: when I go to the grocery store, there's not a

1001
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 3: lot of taillers in there. There's not a lot of

1002
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: people checking me out because we do self check out.

1003
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: Now a job lost the technology. Yeah, how can psychics

1004
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: be in How could they be employed for over thousands

1005
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: of years and never be correct? It's two people did

1006
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: get paid to be wrong? Okay?

1007
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: A weather man, oh yeah, because you know it ain't

1008
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: no difference between partly cloudy and partly sunny, right, you know,

1009
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: the same thing, same thing, and a psychic and a

1010
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: psychic at the end of the day told me I

1011
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: was gonna be with my's wife forever.

1012
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: It didn't last five I was told that to last.

1013
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: Now I'm looking for the psychic because you lied to me.

1014
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: Also, you didn't tell the people you're messing with the

1015
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: terror cards too.

1016
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, the terror cards.

1017
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: I drew a mustache on it because at the end

1018
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: of the day, you can't just pull out no cards,

1019
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: right and think you're gonna.

1020
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: Tell me like you just pulled out the cars with

1021
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: the people before me, like ship for the deck. So

1022
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: everything is left.

1023
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: Up the chance I'll tell another scam transcendental meditation, because

1024
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: I believe in meditation, right, Yeah, I try to meditate

1025
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: and it's good for you studies out there to prove that.

1026
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: But transcendental meditation, there is a whole there's a whole

1027
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: business built around do.

1028
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: You reach another plane or something?

1029
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 2: What's it called. There's a particular and it was it

1030
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: was discovered or it's basically an organization to make money

1031
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: off of you.

1032
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1033
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: And if you look though, say something like, Okay, we're

1034
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: going to give you a special phrase. It is your

1035
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: phrase to repeat. No one else knows this phrase, so

1036
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: when you're meditating, you will repeat this to yourself at

1037
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 2: your I forget the official name for it, but they

1038
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: actually have done investigation. And what they do is they

1039
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: go in the back and they based on whether or

1040
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: not you're male or female, what your age range is,

1041
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this is what you should say. No, yes,

1042
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: people pay, it's all planned out.

1043
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: People pay for anything. Yes, like, we don't care.

1044
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 3: If it gives us just a tiny sliver of hope,

1045
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: you'll take it. We pay for hope, right, And that's

1046
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 3: what a psych it seals. They say, lives and hope.

1047
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. I wonder how much

1048
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: do they give good news to bad news? Like I

1049
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: wonder do they turn the card over and be like

1050
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: you know, three days left.

1051
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: You're never gonna get that seven two hours?

1052
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: Like like, are you gonna tell me the truth?

1053
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: I just don't think that power belongs to them, and

1054
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: I won't give them that power. Don't now if it's

1055
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: some psycles out there in my fan I mean our fans,

1056
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: I am sorry.

1057
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: But if you can leave in the messages.

1058
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: Tell us it's real?

1059
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: Is it fake because I think it's fake?

1060
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: Or tell Fred tell us something?

1061
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: Tell future?

1062
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a real future, yes yeah, just something to

1063
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: grab on to. But I see why I give people hope,

1064
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: but I just don't know if I can trust it.

1065
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: I can't trust that.

1066
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: Like, come on, people don't even trust they mate, But

1067
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: you can't trust a stranger to tell your future.

1068
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: And then once people hear it, they start to live it.

1069
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: You you may try to make something happen because you

1070
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 2: want to believe it's gonna happen.

1071
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: Someone told you. It's told you.

1072
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: Like if somebody come and tell me right now, Fred Smooth,

1073
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: you will end up being there the king of England.

1074
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna start hanging out in England.

1075
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you're going to your Yeah I am,

1076
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 3: because maybe something calling me there. So it's just when

1077
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: somebody tells you something, your mind will manifest it and

1078
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: you will start to create habits around it.

1079
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,479
Speaker 1: Like they're just like making it to the league.

1080
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 3: Like I always psyched myself up and say you're going

1081
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: to be a NFL player. So my daily habits start

1082
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 3: to minic NFL players. I start to build myself up.

1083
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: I start to learn the traits of it because mentally,

1084
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 3: that's what I wanted.

1085
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: So just like that, a psychic puts in your head

1086
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: what you want, and now you start to chase that bad.

1087
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: Yes, psychic say you're working towards something very important, are you? Well,

1088
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: yes I am.

1089
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: Unless I haven't worked in nine years.

1090
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 4: Like yes.

1091
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 3: So they put these generalities out there and we grab

1092
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 3: them and we manifest them. So people, you are your

1093
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: own psychic, that's what they're telling you. Yes, you are

1094
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 3: your own dictator of your future. Not them, They just

1095
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 3: they're just a vessel to make you believe.

1096
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you one thing, you know in a

1097
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: psychic to know we'll be back next Monday.

1098
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah we will. Yeah, tell the psychic there, that's mood.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay saving great week. The views and opinion is

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