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Speaker 1: The Texans hold on and beat the Chicago Bears nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 1: They did a great job of getting after Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: They sacked him seven times, they picked him off twice,
Speaker 1: They did a great job of confusing him with their coverages,
Speaker 1: and they hold on to win nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 2: Big hits in the second half, and he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna learn, o Cho, some of the throws, A lot
Speaker 1: of the throws that he got away with in college,
Speaker 1: you can't get away with him in the NFL.
Speaker 2: They'll make you pay for him.
Speaker 1: And another thing, when you're heading to the sideline, you
Speaker 1: know how like college, got a pull up and let you.
Speaker 2: Run on out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not gonna do that in the NFL because
Speaker 1: they want an accumulation of licks. They want that to
Speaker 1: add up. So the first quarter you might pop right
Speaker 1: up like that didn't hurt the second quarter Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: feeling good, but they keep putting enough of them on
Speaker 1: you on the third and the fourth quarter, and over
Speaker 1: the course of the season, they're gonna add up. Caleb,
Speaker 1: you gotta run like when you make a detoy, like
Speaker 1: you going out of bounds. O Joe, We're going to
Speaker 1: get on enough out of bounds. They're not playing. They
Speaker 1: gonna get if they get that they get that close
Speaker 1: to you. O yo. Because you don't have the protection
Speaker 1: of the pocket. You're a runner, you're running back. They're
Speaker 1: gonna lay wood on you.
Speaker 2: Ojo. What'd you take from this ball game? Listen?
Speaker 4: I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Kayleb Williams. What he
Speaker 4: has to do. He has to learn and protect the ball.
Speaker 4: Learn to protect the ball, learn to live to see
Speaker 4: another play some of those deep throws.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 4: I like what we're able to do as far as
Speaker 4: his escapability, Oh, you know, being able to extend plays,
Speaker 4: trying to make plays down the field to try to
Speaker 4: get his team into the game.
Speaker 5: But you can't. You can't do it.
Speaker 4: You can't do it obviously, like college, sometimes some of
Speaker 4: those receivers were wide open, were able to dodge.
Speaker 5: The d tackles.
Speaker 4: And the d tackles and the guards that might have
Speaker 4: that might have gotten through. But you know, these players,
Speaker 4: these players are coverage. Sometimes you throw it in the
Speaker 4: in a in a double coverage. Sometimes you're throwing way.
Speaker 4: He had one one throw on he threw way across
Speaker 4: his body from the right half.
Speaker 2: All the way back the field and got picked.
Speaker 4: Yea, it's not it's not gonna work sometimes, listen, just
Speaker 4: throw them all away and live to see another down.
Speaker 4: I mean, other than that, listen, they pressured him. They
Speaker 4: pressured him a lot, you know. Uh, they fooled him
Speaker 4: with with some of the coverages. And other than that,
Speaker 4: I mean, it was a good game.
Speaker 5: It's good.
Speaker 4: I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end the
Speaker 4: Bears actually had a chance to come back and win.
Speaker 5: It got very interesting. It's funny how that always works.
Speaker 5: You know that.
Speaker 1: You ever noticed that, I do, because the thing you
Speaker 1: ever seemed like the textan was going in to put
Speaker 1: the game away. The ball everybody go in and go touchdown. Oho,
Speaker 1: they're about to go up two scores. They're about to
Speaker 1: put the game game away. Game Yeah, And that's what
Speaker 1: you have to guard against because if you think about
Speaker 1: it oho, more teams lose games than teams win games.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, there's more a lot more losing than winning.
Speaker 1: Now we know at the end of the day, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to have somebody's gonna have to win. And
Speaker 1: left the game ends of the tie. But you go
Speaker 1: back and look, you look at it like, okay, this
Speaker 1: was a direct correlation to why we lost the game.
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, Caleb Walliams, I think
Speaker 1: he has a great His escapability is unbelievable. He can
Speaker 1: make every throw. He just has to understand this is
Speaker 1: in college. Everybody, everybody at this level is a lead,
Speaker 1: even if they're you know, there's tears to it, but
Speaker 1: you're talking about the best of the best. You only
Speaker 1: got sixteen hundred men in the world of eight billion
Speaker 1: people that do what you do. Yeah, sixteen hundred of
Speaker 1: eight billion. That's a very, very minute percent of men
Speaker 1: that can play this game at the highest level. And
Speaker 1: the things you got away with in college, more time
Speaker 1: than not, nine times out of ten, they'll make you
Speaker 1: pay for it.
Speaker 2: And he learned.
Speaker 1: You know, when you have success doing something, oh yo,
Speaker 1: what you want to do? You want to continue to
Speaker 1: do it that way? Man, I've always did this is
Speaker 1: the way I've always done it. Okay, now you're at
Speaker 1: an an elite level and they make you pay for that.
Speaker 2: The Houston Texans C J.
Speaker 1: Stride was twenty three or thirty six, two sixty one touchdown,
Speaker 1: he didn't turn the ball over, had three sacks.
Speaker 2: They did a great job on him. I thought they
Speaker 2: think the biggest difference what I saw from.
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans this week Texans this week as opposed
Speaker 1: to last week Ojoe, is that their inability to run
Speaker 1: the football. I think Joe Mixon going down with that,
Speaker 1: I didn't see did they call did they throw a flag?
Speaker 2: Because that was definitely hip drop tackle. I thought he
Speaker 2: broke his leg.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no they didn't.
Speaker 4: I don't think they threw a flag on that one,
Speaker 4: because on his arms were around his waist.
Speaker 5: His arms weren't weren't.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's the hip dropping when you drop
Speaker 1: your weight down. He dropped his weight down, and I
Speaker 1: thought he broke his leg cause I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: That his right ankle got caught up in. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: but they didn't throw a flag. They didn't throw a flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I thought that was their inability to
Speaker 1: consistently get a run game, Ojo. I thought that really
Speaker 1: hurt him and put them in a situation. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, give the Chicago I think Chicago had a
Speaker 1: really good defense.
Speaker 2: I think they're good.
Speaker 1: Offensively, they're just young offensively, but defensively, I thought they
Speaker 1: did a great job of getting out the CJ. Nico
Speaker 1: Collins had an unbelievable ball game. Still thought I was
Speaker 1: trying to find his rhythm. He really couldn't get into
Speaker 1: a rhythm. But you know, you want to find a
Speaker 1: way to win a ball game, you win at the
Speaker 1: end of the day. Yeah, we didn't play our best game,
Speaker 1: But can you find a way to win when you
Speaker 1: don't have.
Speaker 2: Your best stuff? That's what they did clearly tonight.
Speaker 1: They didn't have their best stuff, Ojo, But they still
Speaker 1: find a way to win.
Speaker 2: What did you like about what you saw from the Texans?
Speaker 5: Listen? Obviously, I like what I saw from CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud Man, his poison upocket, his veteran almost like a
Speaker 4: veteran presence, like a Tom Brady, like a let me
Speaker 4: see who else is in that pocket, Like they don't
Speaker 4: care what's around him. Yeah, listen, people flying by his
Speaker 4: head flying at his ankles. He just right there, just
Speaker 4: calm and relax as down feel processing whatever he needs
Speaker 4: to process in front of him. Sometimes he takes the
Speaker 4: sack obviously when when when there's pressure. But the maturity
Speaker 4: that c. J. Stroud has and some of the plays
Speaker 4: he's he's been able to make, obviously not being really
Speaker 4: much of a dual threat quarterback, but being able to
Speaker 4: escape the pocket when need being extend plays was was
Speaker 4: was really good tonight. Obviously he didn't have the passing
Speaker 4: day he would like. Nego Collins made some really good
Speaker 4: plays and run after Kittle and other than that, Tankdale
Speaker 4: tried to get it, tried to get in the rhythm.
Speaker 4: He wasn't as effective a night. The same with Stefan Diggs,
Speaker 4: but they gonna have eight days. As Nego Colin continues
Speaker 4: to get big, to put up yard and have games
Speaker 4: like he did today.
Speaker 5: Obviously, come next week, Okay, you know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna were gon, We're gonna double.
Speaker 4: We're gonna do yeah, and then here go Tank and
Speaker 4: here go Stephan having having a day, so teams are
Speaker 4: gonna have to pick their poison. But as long as c. J.
Speaker 4: Shroud is playing like he's playing, not turn the ball over,
Speaker 4: being able to facilitate and get the ball, get the
Speaker 4: ball to the player, get the ball to the players
Speaker 4: that are open instead of forcing forcing the ball like
Speaker 4: brother Caleb William.
Speaker 5: Was doing tonight. Yeah, they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 4: And basically, to me, c this Shroud is basically just
Speaker 4: picking up where he left off last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think the thing is O Joe
Speaker 1: when he doesn't throw for three hundred yards like he
Speaker 1: did last year every game a man, he in a
Speaker 1: sophomore slump. No, I mean teams are better prepared for him.
Speaker 1: He's doing a great job of not turning the ball over.
Speaker 1: You gotta pick and choose your battles. Okay, I'll take
Speaker 1: a slack here, I'll throw the ball away there. The
Speaker 1: one thing I can't do is put my teams in
Speaker 1: harm way. As long as I don't put my team
Speaker 1: in harm with, I'm gonna make you beat me. If
Speaker 1: you go back and look at the Patriots, What did
Speaker 1: the Patriots make you do that made you beat them?
Speaker 1: Tom was not gonna put the ball in harm's way.
Speaker 1: They were not gonna have a whole lot of costly mistakes.
Speaker 1: Now they have a bunch of penalties though, shoe, you know,
Speaker 1: penalties that get.
Speaker 2: You beat too.
Speaker 1: Now, I think they have eleven or twelve penalties. You
Speaker 1: gotta be careful of those. They start to add up,
Speaker 1: and so a lot of times they come at the
Speaker 1: most inopportune times. We saw we're gonna talk about your
Speaker 1: team today that that one penalty. Look at when it came.
Speaker 1: All penalties aren't created equal. All turnovers aren't created equal.
Speaker 1: A turnover in the first quarter is a lot different
Speaker 1: than a turnover in the fourth quarter. So with that
Speaker 1: being said, I like what I'm saying. I think, Look,
Speaker 1: I think it's Houston, Texas, considering when you look around,
Speaker 1: all you gotta do is paying around the AFC. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs right now aren't playing chief football. They're not
Speaker 1: the dominant team Canada, Cincinnati, oh and two, the Ravens
Speaker 1: oh and two. All right, Texans too and oh so
Speaker 1: they like, hold on, We we feel pretty good with
Speaker 1: where we sit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, listen, it's it's only we too.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: We got a long season ago.
Speaker 4: And when you think about it, you know, the way
Speaker 4: I look at it is is you play football in
Speaker 4: different halves. You got the first half of the season
Speaker 4: September October. You got the back half of the season
Speaker 4: where it's not cutting time we'll really count. And I
Speaker 4: don't really think already started until after goddamn Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is about at the season that started
Speaker 1: till to get cold. Well, it doesn't get cold in
Speaker 1: that dome in Houston, and they've already they've already gone
Speaker 1: to Indy. So they went up into the division. They
Speaker 1: got a win over division opponent, which is Indy. And
Speaker 1: guess what uh isn't Jacksonville?
Speaker 2: Oh and two? Uh Indy?
Speaker 1: Oh and two less than that division? The Titans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the Titans, the Titans and what oh and two
Speaker 1: they are?
Speaker 2: Yeah. So hey, if I'm in Houston, Texans, tell you what.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: It's only week two, but I'd rather be too and
Speaker 2: oh to knowing too?
Speaker 5: Yeah right, oh yes, right, you know they didn't be
Speaker 5: the just they just did be the titles to day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just beat them. And so you know, I got
Speaker 1: a two game lead, don't yoe, I got a two
Speaker 1: game lead. And so I think this Houston Texas, I
Speaker 1: like I said, I liked what I saw. I think
Speaker 1: they're well coached. They got They got guys on the
Speaker 1: defensive line that can get out there. They can put pressure.
Speaker 1: They're really the gun on the back end. I like
Speaker 1: Stingley Junior, but because they can pressure you, Danielle Hunter,
Speaker 1: uh Will Anderson Junior. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they they
Speaker 1: got they got some players. They got some player though, Joe.
Speaker 1: They got some players that can go get that can
Speaker 1: go get the quarterback and hunt the quarterback. Mario Edwards Jr.
Speaker 1: They got guys that can you know, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: and he will frank pressure. He will me will frank pressure.
Speaker 1: But he has a front foward that's rotational, and they
Speaker 1: can go get your quarterback. They can confuse him. Call
Speaker 1: you some problems. But I like what I see this team.
Speaker 1: But I'm not giving up on the Bears just yet.
Speaker 1: I think the Bears have a great young team. And
Speaker 1: I know DJ Board got frustrated. Oh Joe, you're not
Speaker 1: playing with a rookie quarterback. You're a veteran receiver. You
Speaker 1: know you Hey, you wanted how you want it. He's
Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. It's flying a thousand miles
Speaker 1: an hour. I done got hit first of all, he
Speaker 1: got sacked seven times. How many times did he get hit?
Speaker 1: How many times did he have to break break four
Speaker 1: or five tackles in the backfield? O Joe only to
Speaker 1: get two yards? So he like, man, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: this in the USC.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he gonna be all right though. Listen,
Speaker 4: if you watch kalyb Walliams play, No matter what you
Speaker 4: may think they might be owing to, but it's promising.
Speaker 4: Is promising as a quarterback being the most difficult position, no,
Speaker 4: the most important positions to play, which is also difficult
Speaker 4: as a rookie. He's going to be okay. He has
Speaker 4: all the intangibles, he has all the all the tools
Speaker 4: that are needed to be successful, which is why even
Speaker 4: though they're owing to, there're still glimpses, glimpses of hope
Speaker 4: for him and how good he's going to be. All
Speaker 4: he has to do is be better with the ball
Speaker 4: in some of his decision making and not not not
Speaker 4: start turning the ball over for no apparent reason at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the one thing he's gonna have to eliminate,
Speaker 1: because that's what that's what gets you beat on Joe.
Speaker 1: It's because it's hard enough. I mean, because now you're
Speaker 1: not even you're not even giving yourself a chance because
Speaker 1: they're gonna say they're gonna get X amount of possessions.
Speaker 1: Now you create even more possession for them, and less
Speaker 1: possession for you, less time of possession for you, and
Speaker 1: you know you're probably gonna put them on a short field.
Speaker 2: So that's something that's definitely gonna have to be a
Speaker 2: mindful of. O Joe.
Speaker 1: But man, what do we got here? Let me pull up.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the chief beat the Bengals as butler.
Speaker 5: Hell nah, hell hell nah, hell nah nah. Ain't no,
Speaker 5: ain't no Chiefs beat no Bengals.
Speaker 4: Ain't nothing no. Let's put an asterisk by that. Let's
Speaker 4: let's say the ref's help too. Let's say the let's
Speaker 4: say the refs help too.
Speaker 1: Che's beat the Bingles. Chiefs beat the Bengals twenty six
Speaker 1: twenty five. Three turnovers wasn't enough to ruin Kansas City
Speaker 1: at home. They maintained their points still managed to put
Speaker 1: together a balance attack. They ran the ball for a
Speaker 1: buck forty nine. Isaiah Pacheco led the way with ninety
Speaker 1: yards on twenty carries. Patrick Mahoons only had one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty one yards passing, plus he turned the ball
Speaker 1: over twice.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs needed a PI late to win by one.
Speaker 1: Since the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow in twenty twenty, they
Speaker 1: played the Chiefs six times and each team has won
Speaker 1: three and the average margin of victory is three point
Speaker 1: five points. Taking out the Browning game, that that drops
Speaker 1: the two point six. In fact, Patrick Mahomes and Borrow
Speaker 1: is the first starting quarterback matchup since nineteen fifty with
Speaker 1: five straight matchups decided by three or fewer points.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, that goddamn game was good, Black it was.
Speaker 5: That goddamn game was good. Did you watch the un
Speaker 5: listen chat if you If you saw the Bengals Chiefs game,
Speaker 5: it was good. Listen. We had about five lead lead
Speaker 5: changes within the game.
Speaker 4: The goddamn Bengals team I saw today as opposed to
Speaker 4: what I saw when they played the Patriots last week, was.
Speaker 5: Night and day. It was. It was night and day.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was. It was night and day.
Speaker 4: So I'm happy what I took from it, even though
Speaker 4: we lost the game because of you know, it was
Speaker 4: a p I I'm gonna say that chat. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: say it.
Speaker 5: At the end of the game. That was the passing appearence.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I thought he said it was.
Speaker 5: It was, it was, it was.
Speaker 4: I know a lot of I know a lot of
Speaker 4: Bengal fans upset, But as a receiver and as a
Speaker 4: former dB, that was passing appearance. And in that case,
Speaker 4: you have to do everything you can to not make
Speaker 4: contact with the receiver, get around and do whatever you
Speaker 4: can to swipe the hands.
Speaker 5: But it was passing afference. Even though we're upset, it's
Speaker 5: unfortunate that it always come and when.
Speaker 4: It when it comes to the Bengals in the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl on Logan Wilson, on Cooper Cup on that fourth down,
Speaker 4: always at the end of the game when it matters most,
Speaker 4: a flag is overstrewn when it comes to us for
Speaker 4: some reason, offensively, we look good, Yoshi.
Speaker 5: Hell of a game today.
Speaker 4: I want them to get Jamar Chase a little bit,
Speaker 4: a little bit more involved in the game. I want
Speaker 4: them to get Jamar Chase a little bit more involved
Speaker 4: in the game. Chase, you got to keep a cool, baby, Chase, Chase,
Speaker 4: you got to keep you cool.
Speaker 2: What was he upset about? That wasn't a face man?
Speaker 2: He had pad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I'm not sure what he
Speaker 5: was upset about, but he was upset.
Speaker 2: And that's my first thing, he said, asked, said he
Speaker 2: thought it was a hip drop.
Speaker 5: Oh, now, when a hip drop just he had him
Speaker 5: by the shoulder pad.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think. I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't think Chase understood that right, you know so
Speaker 4: I understand when he watches it back and he actually
Speaker 4: sees it and in real time, he'll understand, you know what,
Speaker 4: my bad. And other than that, the frustration is also
Speaker 4: building up on him not as being as as productive
Speaker 4: as you like as well. Uh, that's not forget the
Speaker 4: hip drop. You're not getting the catches in the balls
Speaker 4: you need and deserve because I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 4: they're gonna try to do. Uh, let me tell you
Speaker 4: what they're gonna try to do. They gonna try to
Speaker 4: play with you. Not only not only are you not
Speaker 4: getting a production that you used to when it comes
Speaker 4: time to get paid, you know what they're gonna say.
Speaker 2: You ain't got the same numbers. Man. I know they're
Speaker 2: gonna say, Hell, I've been there.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm telling you, I'm telling you the game that
Speaker 4: they're gonna play now, I'm telling you and.
Speaker 2: I and I'm like, I ain't got the same car.
Speaker 2: You see them, I can see, I can.
Speaker 5: See it already. I already know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 4: Oh well, you know what, we don't think you deserve
Speaker 4: this because if you look at your numbers, it ain't
Speaker 4: the same as it was, you know, in the previous
Speaker 4: two years.
Speaker 5: So we don't really think.
Speaker 4: You should be making top mansh Man, Listen, boy, hey,
Speaker 4: it's a dirty business. Chat dirty business, I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But even in that situation, oh yoe, yes, sir, you
Speaker 1: got you gotta hold you gotta yeah, oh Joe, you
Speaker 1: gotta buy your tongue or down the whole type.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know how many times lay in the ball game
Speaker 1: somebody done done some cheap ish yeah, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a all. I'm gonna get you. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get you. I'm gonna make it look like a play,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get your ass. Yeah, I'm gonna get you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get Hey, I'm gonna get you, like like you
Speaker 1: an elementary Junia. I'm gonna get you, right he was.
Speaker 4: He was frustrated though, Yeah, obviously I think of offensively.
Speaker 4: What they also allowed, what they allowed the Chiefs to do,
Speaker 4: is they allowed the Chiefs.
Speaker 5: To dictate with a ball win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh they don't.
Speaker 5: I'm out.
Speaker 4: They allowed the Chiefs to dictate with a ball win
Speaker 4: instead of putting Chase in positions to make plays.
Speaker 5: Now, the plays he did make.
Speaker 2: It was hot.
Speaker 1: You know, I can live with that. There ain't no
Speaker 1: impact plays. There ain't nothing splash. His bong was thirteen.
Speaker 2: I can live with that, as long as there ain't
Speaker 2: no thirty forty can tackles. We know Chase.
Speaker 1: We see him catch a routine route and take it
Speaker 1: to the house. We see them out out high point
Speaker 1: somebody and get gone. Yeah, if I can live with
Speaker 1: four for thirty five. And all I'm saying is, I
Speaker 1: don't believe these other receivers. I don't believe they can
Speaker 1: make enough plays to beat me. I know one can,
Speaker 1: he can single handedly beat me. These other guys collectively
Speaker 1: know they can't.
Speaker 2: No, they can't. They can't make it. They can't make
Speaker 2: enough place consistently. O Joe. So I'm gonna double him.
Speaker 1: So Iffke and Burton and all Junior Sampa Mar all
Speaker 1: those guys.
Speaker 4: Listen, I know, I hear what you're saying, but we
Speaker 4: have we have very very very very good depth at
Speaker 4: the receiving position. Now I'm be able to beat you,
Speaker 4: but I think we can make enough plays consistently to
Speaker 4: be in the game.
Speaker 5: And that's what you saw today. You was in the game. No, listen,
Speaker 5: there's no reason for Mahome to have three tone over
Speaker 5: three toneovers.
Speaker 2: And we don't love turnovers. I'm talking about bad. Well.
Speaker 5: Hey that god damn Cam Taylor Britain interception.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, that was beautiful boy. Oh that was beautiful boy.
Speaker 1: But Worthy, I mean, I just want you to I
Speaker 1: just want to know one thing. Worthy, where'd you think
Speaker 1: you were? You thought it was Christmas and Santa Clausa's
Speaker 1: gonna come down the chimney because that was the only
Speaker 1: way you could throw the ball.
Speaker 2: Because what you have to do, Worthy is that you
Speaker 2: gotta stack him. You can't let him.
Speaker 1: You can't let him be on your hip because you're
Speaker 1: going to ride you to the side and it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to be a perfect throw. No is that with
Speaker 1: that feed Once you once you get even with him,
Speaker 1: now you got to stack him. You got to put
Speaker 1: him in a trail position.
Speaker 5: Right, can I say something go ahead for people in
Speaker 5: the chat.
Speaker 4: For people in the chat, obviously you know Worthy is
Speaker 4: the fastest re faster receiving the league, obviously having the
Speaker 4: fastest NFL time of NFL time combine time of all
Speaker 4: time four two and four three. I don't think people
Speaker 4: understand how close that is. I'm talking about in real
Speaker 4: time and two individuals. Yeah, yeah, this is FO two
Speaker 4: and this is full three. Like it's right there.
Speaker 5: So you you you in armed, you in arms length
Speaker 5: and arms reach. It ain't like this huge gap.
Speaker 4: I think people people fail to realize that, and and
Speaker 4: and have this perception that if you run four two
Speaker 4: or you just that much fasten everybody else.
Speaker 5: Hell, all the skills is out there run FO three.
Speaker 2: Uh m.
Speaker 4: So from a technical standpoint, if you had, if you
Speaker 4: FO two and I'm four three, and I make you
Speaker 4: bowl all the way around and you ain't making no
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it just cuts you off to them
Speaker 4: to the sideline.
Speaker 2: You a you, I'll make you run the loop. And
Speaker 2: I was going, that's it. I'm an intercept.
Speaker 1: You're right at the point because I know about got
Speaker 1: what all gotta be the ball's gotta be somewhere between
Speaker 1: forty and forty four yards and the four yards from
Speaker 1: the sideline.
Speaker 4: I know that every time the ball comes out to
Speaker 4: the same time to go hit it the same spot
Speaker 4: every single.
Speaker 2: Time, every single time.
Speaker 5: Listen, you got to win in the phone booth right
Speaker 5: at the staff of the ball. You got to win there.
Speaker 2: People say to go and go around people to run
Speaker 2: the you're not finish. Run first of all, you not finna.
Speaker 1: Just run the loop and be the four to four
Speaker 1: and four to five guy because he's gonna he knows.
Speaker 2: He's gonna intercept you. Look at ain't running no four
Speaker 2: four no no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: Hey he was so he was so technically sound though,
Speaker 5: and his.
Speaker 4: Not not ball ball, not ball control, his ball skills
Speaker 4: oh yeah, or elite. Once you get to a certain point,
Speaker 4: he gets his eyes back. He got that arm bar
Speaker 4: right hips so that shield we yet man.
Speaker 2: Listen, he gonna ride you to the sideline. He lost you.
Speaker 2: Look at the way Revers was built. He's long arm.
Speaker 1: So in other words, his and most most athletes black
Speaker 1: athletes potentially have longer, have longer legs and torsos.
Speaker 5: Arm are extremely long yes, sir, So.
Speaker 1: When you look at him, if you're gonna look at
Speaker 1: pictures of Revers and look how for a guy his size,
Speaker 1: look how long his arms are?
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And if you notice something about Revers, he never would
Speaker 1: for the first move. Oh man, listen, chat, let me
Speaker 1: let me tell you all something a chat.
Speaker 5: Listen to me.
Speaker 4: Revers had the patience of Sally Made. I boys, should
Speaker 4: you not Revers had the patience of Sally Made. There
Speaker 4: was one receiver, one receiver when Revers was in his prime,
Speaker 4: that was able to get him on a consistent basis,
Speaker 4: and that was Stevie Goddamn Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a big receiver. A big receiver was always
Speaker 1: gonna have problems with him. You needed to have quick See.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't have more sense, but I think
Speaker 1: because you weren't as physical as you needed to be.
Speaker 2: If you if a big receiver that don't have quick twitch,
Speaker 2: he gonna eat you up.
Speaker 5: You done, He gonna eat you up done every time.
Speaker 1: He gonna eat you up. But here's the thing. People
Speaker 1: look at and they think it's just speed that makes
Speaker 1: Tyreek so good. Tyreek can learn how to run the route.
Speaker 1: Treat if Worthy if they if the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: want to maximize what EXAVIERA. Worthy can be, He's gonna
Speaker 1: have to run playing route. He's gonna have to run
Speaker 1: out routes. He's gonna have to run under, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to run dig. He's gonna have to run comebacks
Speaker 1: because everybody knows them. First of all, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: It takes a lot to slow that speed down on Joe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on, that's the whole thing. I'm glad you just
Speaker 1: said that. I'm glad you just said that. Because Worthy
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to run fool speed.
Speaker 5: They already scat it. Anyway.
Speaker 4: All you gotta do is exaggerate, exaggerate your running motion
Speaker 4: under control, because once you come on the ball, they
Speaker 4: getting the f about it there anyway. Learn how to
Speaker 4: set up the slant, learn how to set up to dig,
Speaker 4: learn how to run the curl.
Speaker 5: Get the lousion that you're running fast, mean really not
Speaker 5: so it's easy to transition.
Speaker 1: Yes, man, come on, you gotta tell me. I mean
Speaker 1: I wish I could. I wish I could like sit
Speaker 1: down and talk to him. And it's like, okay, tip
Speaker 1: what you're thinking?
Speaker 2: You okay? You got this route temple. What you're thinking? Yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Outside he head up he inside what how how you're
Speaker 4: going to process it when you come out the hddle?
Speaker 2: What are you thinking?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now, also with your alignment and this film, what else
Speaker 1: can you run? Because you got to be able to play.
Speaker 1: You gotta be able to play with your splits, because
Speaker 1: if you line up with say.
Speaker 5: You know what you're doing, they don't study film.
Speaker 4: So if the ball to the left hand and you
Speaker 4: two yards on the outside of the number, Hell, it's
Speaker 4: only two or three things you finished.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, I know. So you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play with your splints. I mean, and they're gonna be watching.
Speaker 1: If all of a sudden, you're on the right side,
Speaker 1: if you normally like most people, a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of teams, like when we're like growing up, if
Speaker 1: you was on the left side over here, you put
Speaker 1: your left foot back. You're on the right side, you
Speaker 1: put your right foot back. Okay, Now when we run
Speaker 1: that bang, we want the inside leg up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta be seven steps.
Speaker 1: Oh but hold on, you normally do that right hey,
Speaker 1: watch that glance, watch that bang route.
Speaker 2: I see you alignment? What you normally do calling it down. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh, he liked, oh sharp, you ain't your
Speaker 1: fitting your fitty running round because you ain't got no
Speaker 1: pressure on that hand, right, you're right, Oh I fit light.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you how the DV had the veteran
Speaker 4: dv's that ignefic get Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn told me.
Speaker 4: Hey, boy, I know every time you Finnah get the
Speaker 4: ball because you come to the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 4: you do your glove like this.
Speaker 2: And you restrapp him. I'm studying everything, and every.
Speaker 5: Time he was right.
Speaker 4: He took ad told me after the game, I know,
Speaker 4: and the ball come at a five, you tie your glove,
Speaker 4: you do like this when you come.
Speaker 5: To the line of scrimmas and you're restrapped them every time.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 5: Don't give no keys, no, I said, God damn.
Speaker 2: Yes, we watched it. We watched it everything. Yep.
Speaker 1: Because a lot of time, a lot just like anything else.
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a dominant leg that you want
Speaker 1: to push off of. Yeah, so do d Lineman. They
Speaker 1: have a dominant leg they want to push off of.
Speaker 1: So if all of a sudden, if you even more
Speaker 1: time than not, if you even okay, you're gonna drop
Speaker 1: in coverage and you flaying the run.
Speaker 2: But if you stagger that stairs right, oh, you're trying
Speaker 2: to get off the rock.
Speaker 1: So I think that's the thing with Worthy, If that's what,
Speaker 1: if I could share any information to him, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to start. You're gonna have to do something other
Speaker 1: than go deep. You're gonna have to learn, okay, off
Speaker 1: this film. I can also run X, Y, and Z.
Speaker 1: I just don't have to run the go route, and
Speaker 1: you have to play with it comes. I mean, you
Speaker 1: line up tight to the numbers, you ain't running no
Speaker 1: damn go from there right, It'll take you all day.
Speaker 4: So he's gonna be good, though, he gonna be good.
Speaker 4: You know, you know how Andy Reid is, how creative
Speaker 4: he is when it comes to using players, you know,
Speaker 4: especially to their strengths. But when Worthy can whatever his
Speaker 4: weaknesses are, once he can make take those weaknesses and
Speaker 4: make them they don't need to be a strengths, but
Speaker 4: make them good, then he'd be becomes that much more
Speaker 4: valuable and the playbook for him opens up exponentially.
Speaker 1: I would you know what I would do, Ojoe, Uh,
Speaker 1: I would go to the film department. Yes, they go
Speaker 1: give me every tape you got on Tyreek Hill, every cat,
Speaker 1: every every practice tape, every game, every game tape. I'm
Speaker 1: going to study Tyreek Hill. When I got into this business,
Speaker 1: o Shoe and I knew I was gonna be interviewing people.
Speaker 1: I asked Eric Mann. The guy that I loved that
Speaker 1: I loved this interviewing style and I'm nothing like because
Speaker 1: he trained in this was Ed Bradley. I said, give
Speaker 1: me every interview Ed Bradley did. At sixty minutes. They
Speaker 1: got me about forty hours of interviews and Ed Bradley, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love Matt Lower. Matt Lower's interview style. I studied him.
Speaker 1: Go study people, save You're worthy. The comparable to you
Speaker 1: with speed Wise is Tyreek. He played in that system.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be running a lot of the same routes system.
Speaker 1: The same coach that drafted Tyreek drafted you the same way.
Speaker 1: And Tyreek came in as kind of like a gadget guy.
Speaker 1: He was like to come in and give him give.
Speaker 1: He had a package. You can't return to pump returner,
Speaker 1: but they had a package to play for him because
Speaker 1: he's too he had too much feed not to try
Speaker 1: to get the football in his head. But he taught
Speaker 1: himself how to run the tree. Now he's gonna run
Speaker 1: his way all the way to camp. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy can do that, but I believe he can
Speaker 1: be a very very valuable car. That's the guy I'm studying.
Speaker 1: That's the guy I'm watching. That's what you do, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: I mean, I watched tape of Todd Christensen, Ozzie Knewson,
Speaker 1: and Kellen Winslow. Those were the guys that I watched.
Speaker 1: I didn't study anybody else because their skill set didn't
Speaker 1: fit what I did. Their skill set Kellen Big, Kellen, Ozzie,
Speaker 1: and Todd Tristensen their skill set fit my skill set.
Speaker 2: I was like them. I'm like them.
Speaker 1: Ozzie was a wide receiver, Kellen played was a tight end.
Speaker 1: Todd was a wide receiver at b YU. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's why I need to study.
Speaker 2: That's what I need to do.
Speaker 1: That's what I offered. That's the advice I would offer
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy. But I say this one more time on Joe.
Speaker 1: The Bengals need to be careful what happened because if
Speaker 1: you notice, they always talk about we're beat to beat
Speaker 1: that team. What happens when you don't come up against
Speaker 1: that team in the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Then what you know?
Speaker 1: How they say somebody, oh, we built to beat X
Speaker 1: y X team OTOE. But what if you come up
Speaker 1: against W and you don't see X, we'll probably win.
Speaker 2: I think you know what.
Speaker 5: I think it is from from a personnel standpoint. I
Speaker 5: don't know what it is about.
Speaker 4: Why we play so well against the Chiefs despite the
Speaker 4: despite the turnovers. If we could have got more points
Speaker 4: out of out of those three turnovers, I think we
Speaker 4: could have actually not blew him out. I don't want
Speaker 4: his word.
Speaker 1: Because y'all play cup y'all coverage because y'all can get
Speaker 1: pressure with your four, and you drop seventy coverage. I
Speaker 1: watched they ended up benching a left tackle because he
Speaker 1: was so bad. You see, this is what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, this is what I'm talking about with football IQ.
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs tackle chief left tackle number seventy six,
Speaker 1: I can't. I saw I saw him complaining too. You
Speaker 1: saw when the person that the guy that caught the
Speaker 1: touchdown pass replaced it got hands to the faith.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, and then he on the sideline time about
Speaker 4: see y'all have sent me out the game.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, they took you out of the game because
Speaker 1: you about to get Patrick Mahome's head beat there.
Speaker 2: Oh yo. Yeah, this is what I know when you're
Speaker 2: helping it.
Speaker 1: When when the left tackle right tackle, they're always gonna
Speaker 1: ask sharpie, what are you doing. Garrett Zimmerman never wanted
Speaker 1: me to. He didn't want me to touch the guy
Speaker 1: because he says, sharp I'm gonna set a certain way.
Speaker 1: He called me sharper. He says, sharply, I'm gonna set
Speaker 1: a certain way. If you hit him, I might overset
Speaker 1: him and then you push him inside or I might
Speaker 1: expect something. So he didn't want me to touch it.
Speaker 1: He was He was one of the few people, one
Speaker 1: of the tackles I played with he didn't want. He
Speaker 1: did not want you to chip, he said a certain way.
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got you here.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 1: I got you outside, which means you can sit as
Speaker 1: heavy as you want to inside because I got you
Speaker 1: protected on the outside. But Checko is coming to chip
Speaker 1: on his outside. He over says him to the outside,
Speaker 1: and Hendry's go on this side. He said, sat, I say,
Speaker 1: you've got to be kidding me. I'm like, ro, I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I just I said, I mean, I just want.
Speaker 2: To know what your report.
Speaker 1: Car said, Di did you get an ass or you
Speaker 1: with the satisfactory or unsatisfactory?
Speaker 2: Because I'm confused.
Speaker 5: Right now, O Joe satisfactory.
Speaker 2: I mean the back is coming. I know they told
Speaker 2: him because you look at for Checko.
Speaker 1: He checked, he goes wide, he's gonna chip him if
Speaker 1: he comes up the field, Pa, Checko's gonna chip him
Speaker 1: back onto the tackle.
Speaker 2: Just don't just don't over sat outside.
Speaker 1: And give him a pre route because guess what Henderson
Speaker 1: sees like, oh, hooking for Checko? Or you said, why,
Speaker 1: oh I'm going inside right away. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Guys with IQ know where your help? Hey, I'm asking hey,
Speaker 1: what y'all doing? Because I needed to know because sometimes
Speaker 1: the tackle had to step down to secure the gap
Speaker 1: with the guard. I needed to know that because now
Speaker 1: that's gonna impact my stuf. Do I sit Do I
Speaker 1: take a hard step inside? Or can I sit outside? Hey,
Speaker 1: Zama about Hey, they're gonna let me know they're telling them.
Speaker 1: We say, Gilligan, that means Shannon, you on an island.
Speaker 5: Yeah, by yourself. Oh okay, on your own.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, that I got Now, this is why I've
Speaker 2: been lifted by.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta use these muscles on them now,
Speaker 1: oh jo, I gotta use these muscles muscles on them.
Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do, I'm a quick setting because
Speaker 1: he's not anticipating me being there.
Speaker 2: Right, So once I quick said him and I get
Speaker 2: I get locked in. Oh you ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 5: Are you trying to beat him to the punch?
Speaker 1: I beat him to the punch. Yeah, because he's not
Speaker 1: anticipating me past blocking. I mean you see me. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know you're going out for a route. So you
Speaker 1: just gonna you just gonna do your thing because you
Speaker 1: think you got to tackle. Damn, I'm right there. But
Speaker 1: just guys, just understand where your health is. That'll eliminate
Speaker 1: a lot of the problems. Just understanding where your health is,
Speaker 1: where you're vulnerable. You're not going to be me where.
Speaker 2: My strength is. I got outside, I'm sitting outside. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting ahead of outside.
Speaker 4: You know what, I think a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of players, a lot of teams are still jelling. You
Speaker 4: can practice all you want you know, you and I
Speaker 4: have said it all the time. You can practice over
Speaker 4: and over and over, but once you get into a game,
Speaker 4: it's different. Sometimes you forget things, things that you don't
Speaker 4: naturally do in practice. You be extra, you're doing stuff
Speaker 4: you don't normally do in practice, you do it in
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 4: I think by the time, especially when it comes to offenses,
Speaker 4: offensive lines, by the time they get the week four
Speaker 4: and week five, I think everybody would be in rhythm
Speaker 4: and have and have some type of continuity to where
Speaker 4: the office is flowing and it's running like a well
Speaker 4: OI your machine.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you know we only might only have us
Speaker 1: do two minutes at the end of practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we Yeah, we did two minutes in the practice too.
Speaker 2: When you dog time that bingo because.
Speaker 1: He said, I know, he said, I know when it's fresh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be thinking. He said, I want you talk tired,
Speaker 1: I want you exhausted. That's what I want you to think,
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be the difference in the game. Can
Speaker 1: you think under pressure? Can you think under fire? You
Speaker 1: know there was a movie I think Denzel was in
Speaker 1: the Courage under Fire. Yeah, the question is, can you
Speaker 1: think under fire. Like you said, you get tired, Lombardi said,
Speaker 1: fatigue will make cowards of us. All, Okay, now I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Can I still think I got hot? Okay, I'm protecting. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got chilled, I got this.
Speaker 2: I got that. That's the thing. Gods get tired. They
Speaker 2: just forget everything. No, bro, it's more to it than that.
Speaker 5: Hey, that too many.
Speaker 4: Hell boy, when you're t hey listen when you when
Speaker 4: you're on a eleven twelve play drive.
Speaker 5: And that's a little extensive. Let's say eight or nine
Speaker 5: play drive.
Speaker 1: Man five or six man, you run around, so you
Speaker 1: gotta realize running roundes. Yeah, ain't like you run the whole.
Speaker 1: But it ain't like you run the hole. But even
Speaker 1: if you run the shallocross, they throw you the ball.
Speaker 1: You game ten, they throw you the ball again.
Speaker 2: You gain eight. Now you running, Now you run a
Speaker 2: clear route.
Speaker 5: Ain't blow that lastic as to them built up on
Speaker 5: that last second.
Speaker 1: Catch and then they jump about a we're gonna start out,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna start out in two minutes.
Speaker 2: Gonna go get them tired.
Speaker 1: All the hell, we're gonna be tied to somebody running,
Speaker 1: somebody running against them.
Speaker 2: You make it seem like Dada.
Speaker 1: Joe. Yeah, we have Saints scored ten thousand and six
Speaker 1: straight possessions and to be and on their way to
Speaker 1: a forty four to nineteen blow out over the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The Saint offense has scored ninety one points in two games.
Speaker 1: Through three quarters. The Saints average nine points a little
Speaker 1: less than ten yards per play. Thirty five points allowed
Speaker 1: are the most. US tied for the most giving up
Speaker 1: through the first two quarters. Uh, they tied us because
Speaker 1: we put thirty five the ass in ninety eight at
Speaker 1: the half. Last year, the Cowboys are live thirty five
Speaker 1: points in just one game. Car was hardly touched. Neither
Speaker 1: was a man who scored four touchdown. Let's take a
Speaker 1: listen to what Dak had to say after the embarrassing loss.
Speaker 6: That's simply why you can't listen to it, to other
Speaker 6: people's opinions and read with you guys, you guys right respectfully.
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you know, ya may have put put it,
Speaker 6: put this team on a high more than we should
Speaker 6: have been, and now we just simply got to reset.
Speaker 6: We've got to respond. We're not going undefeated, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, hadn't been done in fifty years.
Speaker 2: We're surprised.
Speaker 6: So it's about getting back to it and finding a
Speaker 6: way to respond, uh, to put the best team on
Speaker 6: the field next week.
Speaker 2: Hey, I tried to prepare you for this, Ojo.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: I told you I'm gonna let you go. But I
Speaker 1: want to say this. Yeah, we talked about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We're starting the defense. I said, look, I wasn't really
Speaker 1: that impressed with the Cowboys offense last week. I said,
Speaker 1: they got a punt return and they you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of turnover to put them on short fields. I say,
Speaker 1: the defense looked really good, but I say, I would
Speaker 1: really like to see them if they had their starting
Speaker 1: tackles in there. I say, because what happens if you
Speaker 1: if you can hold up? I guess we got to answer.
Speaker 1: I did not hear Michael Parson's name call. I did
Speaker 1: not hear d log name call. When you go in
Speaker 1: an Oh, Joe, do you know how hard and they'll do.
Speaker 1: I want you to explain to the fan, because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you take it over and I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: up after you. Can you explain to the fans how
Speaker 1: difficult it is our listeners are viewing, and our listeners
Speaker 1: that's gonna listen to this on audio? Can you explain
Speaker 1: to them how difficult it is to score six touchdowns
Speaker 1: on six straight possession in an NFL game?
Speaker 5: Wait, hold on, forget an NFL game.
Speaker 4: Do you know how difficult it is to score six
Speaker 4: touchdowns on six possessions in Madden and a video in
Speaker 4: the video game, if you're playing someone that's good, it's
Speaker 4: very difficult. So the fact that this is Derek Carr,
Speaker 4: this is the same Derek Carr that the Raiders let go, right,
Speaker 4: that's that's the same Derek Carr.
Speaker 5: Right, look completely different today. Rashid Shahed? Is that how
Speaker 5: you saying? Say his name?
Speaker 4: H Rashid Shaheed? Chris Olive and they got damned Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 4: They looked like a completely different Saints team today. I
Speaker 4: don't know, and I don't want to butcher anybody's name, whoever.
Speaker 4: The right tackle and the left tackle are for New
Speaker 4: Orleans Saints to deserve to pay raise.
Speaker 5: Hey, there wasn't no stunt, no nothing.
Speaker 4: They barely got the goddamn Derek Carr and was able
Speaker 4: to pressure him. Taysom Hill Swiss Army knife he coming
Speaker 4: out the backfield. He had quarterback doing quarterback sneaks.
Speaker 5: I mean, everything worked today. Everything worked. If I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 5: the Saints didn't punt.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong nine minutes in the third, fourth
Speaker 1: quarter nine minutes, but the third and fourth quarter fourth
Speaker 1: nine minutes into a fourth quarter on that's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm sure it's happened before, but come on, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I didn't expect it to happen to the Cowboys again.
Speaker 5: One thing that the Cowboys always.
Speaker 4: Do, they have a game like this, maybe not them
Speaker 4: allowing a team to score thirty five, but then going
Speaker 4: twelve to five the last what three years in a row.
Speaker 7: Yes, so this is this is one game down. I'm
Speaker 7: assuming knowing them and the way they bounce back after
Speaker 7: a loss, they gonna look completely different next week and
Speaker 7: everybody gonna be back happy. It couldn't stop.
Speaker 1: Look, Derek Carr was eleven of sixteen two forty three
Speaker 1: two shuts down a pit a sack.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The ninety nine ninety nine qbr Ava Kamara has some
Speaker 1: of the best balance I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you think you got it to
Speaker 2: wrap up?
Speaker 5: You got to wrap all the way up.
Speaker 2: He is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, playing through contact, twenty rushers, one fifteen, three touchdowns
Speaker 1: they had for thirty nine carries, a buck ninety. I
Speaker 1: just don't know. I don't know what. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that was today. Because the Saints did whatever they want.
Speaker 1: They got whatever they wanted and as much of it
Speaker 1: as they wanted. That's embarrassing. Yeah, that's embarrassing. Do you
Speaker 1: all mean that's the Cowboys defense should be. Look, that
Speaker 1: didn't play well. And this is not all on Dak
Speaker 1: and people like with Shulter, you think that's all Dak fault. No,
Speaker 1: but you're allowed to match what the opposing offense when
Speaker 1: guess what when the same sty they're that when they
Speaker 1: kick it off, Dak is allowed to go score now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, that's the type of game I
Speaker 4: thought it was gonna be at the beginning. That's the
Speaker 4: type of game I thought it.
Speaker 5: Was going to be. I thought, you know what I say,
Speaker 5: man boy, this is looking to be it's gonna be
Speaker 5: a shootout.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The sat score, the Cowboys score, okay, the Saint score, Okay,
Speaker 4: the Cowboys scored. I was expecting, you know, both teams
Speaker 4: to put up forty forty two thirty five. That's what
Speaker 4: I thought it was gonna look like, turnover interception. And
Speaker 4: they were capitalizing on those turnoffs.
Speaker 1: Oh they putting kicking no field goal, they're scoring touchdowns touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Now if my Bengals could have done that to day.
Speaker 1: Yeah shit. But the Cowboys need another receiver. All they
Speaker 1: got a CD. And you see when they started doubling CD.
Speaker 1: You see how difficult life got with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, But you know what I like. You know what
Speaker 5: I like about what the Cowboys do with CD Lamb.
Speaker 4: They moved him all around and three by one day
Speaker 4: put him at the three, and three by one they'll
Speaker 4: put him at the two. Sometimes he'd be on the outside.
Speaker 4: Sometimes he'll be on the opposite side as the X SO.
Speaker 4: I like even though they try to double him, they
Speaker 4: move him around so much it makes it difficult.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, the O Joe, after he
Speaker 1: got that long touchdown run, he'll have one more pass.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I hate, I hate. I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1: You think you about to have a bomb day. They
Speaker 1: already got be a long tub. I don't got be
Speaker 1: about ninty. I don't gotta be a naughty it's the
Speaker 1: first quarter. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm adding up in
Speaker 1: my head. Oh Joe, Okay, now from what fifty that's
Speaker 1: at least one dub at the least.
Speaker 4: And the fact that you just said that, I don't
Speaker 4: know if we getting getting to the Kyler Murray game today.
Speaker 4: Remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Jr. Yesterday last
Speaker 4: night show. I said, he is going to go off.
Speaker 5: It's just the way the NFL works. Just I don't
Speaker 5: know how to explain it.
Speaker 4: But he went crazy in the in the first quarter,
Speaker 4: and that tweet. I snapped tweet and said, I guarantee
Speaker 4: you even though he's on fire like NBA JM character,
Speaker 4: they gonna stop going to him and long behold, I
Speaker 4: think the stat line might have been the same at
Speaker 4: the end of the damn game.
Speaker 2: It was he only had I think he had got
Speaker 2: another target when that was it.
Speaker 5: They do it every time.
Speaker 4: I will never be able to understand why it works
Speaker 4: like that. Just they just run the offense. And I
Speaker 4: guess if a defense says, you know what the rest
Speaker 4: of the game, we taking Marvin Harrison Junior out the
Speaker 4: game that the offense coordinator allows the team to do
Speaker 4: just that.
Speaker 5: I hate when they allow team to dictate where you
Speaker 5: go at the ball. I hate it. Bullshit, got there
Speaker 5: will some time.
Speaker 2: They got a It's embarrassing, though, O Joe. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't get beat like this.
Speaker 5: Man, hold on, it's only week two? Is it really embarrassing?
Speaker 5: The last week two? As opposed to take eleven games
Speaker 5: in twelve games in.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe to give O Joe, you allowed the team
Speaker 1: to go six for six touchdowns. You said it's hard
Speaker 1: to do on Madden.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's it's hard to do the real game.
Speaker 5: But they just did it in the game, especially you
Speaker 5: playing a quality opponent.
Speaker 2: That's what you told me. The Cowboys work.
Speaker 4: I said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nah, I said that. By the ball, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 1: Al must have got separated at bursts of behow y'all
Speaker 1: lost contact.
Speaker 4: Hey, they're gonna be all right. You know you're gonna
Speaker 4: have You're gonna you know what. This is a good thing,
Speaker 4: though you know it's really not. Sometimes this can be
Speaker 4: a blessing in disguise, to have a game like this
Speaker 4: early and get it out the way, to have some
Speaker 4: teaching team, to have some film for Mike Zimma to.
Speaker 5: Go over with the defense. Listen, we can't have this
Speaker 5: that October the receiver CD lamb Z go back, look
Speaker 5: at the film.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is what we need to do. It's three
Speaker 1: yards of carry. That when the Cowboys average O joe
Speaker 1: three yards of carry.
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do with that?
Speaker 5: It's hard.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you have games like that. Sometimes you had games
Speaker 4: like that. Now looking at it, look watch how they
Speaker 4: look next week.
Speaker 1: And guess what I mean. They didn't run the ball
Speaker 1: particularly well last week. You make it extremely difficult when
Speaker 1: you become one dimensional run the ball. Yeah, you make
Speaker 1: it very very difficult. And what what what could the
Speaker 1: Saints do? Because the Saints could run the ball when
Speaker 1: they will play action. What happened wide open?
Speaker 2: You see?
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. They can run the ball
Speaker 1: so well. And when a car faked got ball in
Speaker 1: there and he pulled out, that's quarters coverage.
Speaker 2: That yeah, uh he ran through that's quarters.
Speaker 5: Yeah, safety Sainty sitting low, that's quarters.
Speaker 1: But they got a whole because they're worried about Aba
Speaker 1: Kamara shooting through there and then and and you know, hey,
Speaker 1: should he got speed?
Speaker 5: Are he fast?
Speaker 2: Now? Oh man? You see he got up on them horses,
Speaker 2: and most of the sainty look at each other. I mean,
Speaker 2: what you ever to do? Because who who I'm playing?
Speaker 2: It's quarters?
Speaker 5: He ran.
Speaker 1: Twenty five whatever you want to call it, eighty he
Speaker 1: ate whatever, whatever covers you want to call it, O Joe,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. A quarter cover. Everybody got a
Speaker 1: quarter of field safety. You got a quarter corner, you
Speaker 1: got a quarter safety got a quarter and the other
Speaker 1: left corner got a quarter.
Speaker 2: And he ran through the quarters the safety and boom,
Speaker 2: what seventy.
Speaker 1: Yards eighty whatever house part was, Ojoe, that's your home opener.
Speaker 2: That's your home opener. Eighty plus thousand? Did you take?
Speaker 1: Because you know what they do every every every week,
Speaker 1: every week? The cowboys, they showed that view the cowboys fans.
Speaker 2: They lined up to go in and they opened the
Speaker 2: door and they run it. Who the cowboys? The cowboy
Speaker 2: man to get beat like that?
Speaker 5: O Joe, it's bad, was it?
Speaker 2: I listen?
Speaker 4: I told you I think they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be alright. Hey, get get them
Speaker 4: losses out the way, now, get them out the way now.
Speaker 4: As opposed to as opposed to laid on in the
Speaker 4: season and and one of them losses caused you to
Speaker 4: go home.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be Dallas. I mean, if you go
Speaker 1: back to look the last couple of years, Dallas has
Speaker 1: been really poor against the rush. And when you allow
Speaker 1: team to run the football, they're gonna play action off
Speaker 1: of it, and you're gonna have guys why that's open.
Speaker 4: I mean, the last time we saw them, the last
Speaker 4: time we saw them last year against the Packers.
Speaker 5: What the Packers did.
Speaker 4: Run them off the field right down, right down, they throat,
Speaker 4: no no trickery, right down their throat.
Speaker 2: Right down it.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe. The Ravens are zer and two as the
Speaker 1: Raiders go on the road and win twenty six twenty three.
Speaker 1: This marks the Ravens fourth loss after leading by double
Speaker 1: digits in the fourth quarter since twenty twenty two. This
Speaker 1: times the Bears for the most in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: that's fan The Ravens can only blame themselves for this
Speaker 1: fourth quarter collapse. The only time Ballimore has started zero
Speaker 1: to two and coach John Harbar's previous sixteen seasons was
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, after failing to hold on to a ten
Speaker 1: point lead against the Raiders with twelve minutes remaining, the
Speaker 1: Baltimore dug itself into a hole. The Ravens' next three
Speaker 1: games are against the defending the division champs at Dallas,
Speaker 1: at home against Buffalo at Cincinnati. The Raiders had only
Speaker 1: forty eight yards of offense at halftime Baltimore, but Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew and Davonte Adams came to life in the second half.
Speaker 2: Davonte finished with nine for a buck ten and a touchdown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, best receiving in the game, right there by,
Speaker 4: Davonte Adams.
Speaker 2: Raiders got to you gotta capitalize on that old Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, most definitely listen up ten with twelve and
Speaker 4: the fourth right, Yes, yes, when they say it's the
Speaker 4: game inches, this is what they talk about. Not only
Speaker 4: is the game inches, they are one two, maybe three
Speaker 4: plays out of what the sixty five and maybe seventy.
Speaker 5: Year run, one two, maybe three plays that make the
Speaker 5: difference in the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guarantee if we are if we were to
Speaker 4: have had the time to break down this film in
Speaker 4: somewhat of a PowerPoint presentation style to the chat, we
Speaker 4: can show you the one or two or three plays
Speaker 4: that made the difference in his game on why they
Speaker 4: were able to come back and win.
Speaker 1: Game.
Speaker 2: I mean they random, but they brand the ball well.
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry eight eighteen for eighty four, Lamar five for
Speaker 1: forty five, Heel four for forty two, So twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty seven, rushers one fifty one, Zay Flower seven for
Speaker 1: ninety one, Mark Andrews four for fifty one. Bateman had
Speaker 1: three for forty likely two for twenty six. Lamar was
Speaker 1: twenty one of thirty four to two forty seven, one
Speaker 1: touchdown one. I int missed a couple of throws he'd
Speaker 1: liked to have back, two sacks fifteen yards. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson MVP as my quarterback and Deck Garri
Speaker 1: is my running back, I should be able to hold
Speaker 1: a tail point lead for twelve minutes to go in
Speaker 1: the fourth.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2: I got it. First of all, I got to be
Speaker 2: I've got to be able to hold that on you.
Speaker 2: I've got it. You know.
Speaker 5: It also comes down to the play calling as well.
Speaker 1: Now I'll tell we're not gonna do that. No, note
Speaker 1: that you see what you did. So let me ask
Speaker 1: your question. When they win the game, you don't say
Speaker 1: nothing by play calling. You say, that's what players do.
Speaker 1: They make plays right.
Speaker 5: Right right right right right right right right. I understand
Speaker 5: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, what would you like? Okay,
Speaker 2: let me tell you. I'm gonna take you your argument.
Speaker 2: What would you have liked to see them do more
Speaker 2: or less?
Speaker 5: More or less of? In that instance?
Speaker 2: What would you like to see them do more of?
Speaker 2: And then what would you have liked to see them
Speaker 2: do less of?
Speaker 4: I think I think they should have run the ball
Speaker 4: a little bit more, run the ball a little bit more.
Speaker 1: It is rare that you see them normally they have
Speaker 1: more pass especially because they had to leave to have
Speaker 1: the more passing attempts, the rushing attempts.
Speaker 2: Bingo.
Speaker 5: But John said, listen, you brought Derreck Henry in for
Speaker 5: a reason.
Speaker 1: But he said, he said, they did not bring Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry there to give him thirty touches a game.
Speaker 5: That's a goddamn lie.
Speaker 8: And the reason that you didn't what he said, Okay,
Speaker 8: he said that, And you lost the day up ten
Speaker 8: and up ten with twelve minutes to go on the
Speaker 8: fourth and the fact that's when you're supposed to use
Speaker 8: your Derrick Henry to his advantage.
Speaker 2: And you don't do it.
Speaker 4: You try to do something that's really not the way
Speaker 4: your offense is built. You not built to throw the ball,
Speaker 4: god damn fifty times a game. That's not the type
Speaker 4: of offense Baltimore is.
Speaker 2: No, I can't.
Speaker 5: Can Lamar throw the ball?
Speaker 2: You got it right, yes, but just to.
Speaker 5: Drop back first down, second down, third out. No, it's
Speaker 5: not the Ravens.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised, don't you considering when you go back and
Speaker 1: look at it, what's not.
Speaker 2: Hold on, look for something right quick? What it is.
Speaker 1: Considering the time of possession. Wasn't that they ended up
Speaker 1: losing top about over a minute. But when you look
Speaker 1: at it that you had a ten point that you
Speaker 1: had a ten point lead in the fourth, and to
Speaker 1: have more pass attempts than rush attempts, that's not normally
Speaker 1: the Ravens recipe for success. It's normally the other way around. Yep,
Speaker 1: more rush. You can see them having thirty five forty
Speaker 1: rush attempts and then they'll have twenty to twenty five
Speaker 1: pass attempts.
Speaker 2: But they threw the ball a lot today, which is surprising.
Speaker 1: Maybe they saw something, you know, you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: saw like, hey, their corners of the safety.
Speaker 2: We feel that we could hold up again. Max Crosby
Speaker 2: gonna wreck the.
Speaker 5: Stuff every time, every time, and I mean I don't reckon.
Speaker 4: The Raiders still played man and man, man and man,
Speaker 4: safety and militia, coup of three, couple of four. We ween,
Speaker 4: this is what we running. We not changing, we not bluffing.
Speaker 4: We're not doing nothing exotic defensively, line up and play.
Speaker 4: That's the only that's the only reason I can think
Speaker 4: of them just throwing the ball so much and going
Speaker 4: away from the run because there's a safety.
Speaker 5: Down in the box.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like, Lamar only had five rushes.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, but those those because last week
Speaker 1: I think he had like ten eleven, twelve rushes. Last
Speaker 1: week maybe had like fourteen fifteen. Yeah, give Dereck here
Speaker 1: another six or seven carries. So you didn't bring him
Speaker 1: there for you didn't bring him there for thirty. Give
Speaker 1: him twenty two to twenty five.
Speaker 2: I can live with that. I can live with that.
Speaker 2: I can live with that.
Speaker 1: But it looks like I said, look, Pittsburgh is is
Speaker 1: the number one in the division at two and oh
Speaker 1: Baltimore is oh in two, Cleveland one and one. Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is ohing to you, guys play Cincinnati in the next
Speaker 1: I think in the next three weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be it's gonna be very, very interesting.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I mean, at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you are what you are. You're you're a physical,
Speaker 1: physical team. Defensive was good, uh good corners. I mean
Speaker 1: Garna Minchew was thirty or thirty eight.
Speaker 5: Damn yeah, it was cooking that Ooh he was cooking.
Speaker 2: Hey man, that tight end. Brock Bowers.
Speaker 5: Oh he's a real deal.
Speaker 2: Oh man, he lookit.
Speaker 4: Think I'm gonna take my hat off from Rock Bowers. Boy,
Speaker 4: you the real deal? Yes, yes, yes, yes, be nice.
Speaker 1: He really he for real for real. Mm hm oh
Speaker 1: Joe nine catches, nine targets.
Speaker 5: Hold on, he gonna get open every time.
Speaker 2: Yeah he know he no slops.
Speaker 5: He gonna be Wow.
Speaker 1: I saw him as freshman year at Georgia. I said,
Speaker 1: this kid, this kid could come this kid could come out.
Speaker 5: Now you could tell huh yeah, hell yeah, some some players.
Speaker 1: Yes, he can move, Yeah, yeah, he can move. He
Speaker 1: can drop his hips. H he got wiggled. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: he can play. He go he gonna be hail. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he gonna be hail now.
Speaker 2: But look like you said.
Speaker 1: Uh, the Ravens are oh and two, oh and one
Speaker 1: at home, they lose to the Raiders. The Ravens are
Speaker 1: oh into the Raiders are one and one. Come back,
Speaker 1: get a hard faught victory on the road. Make that
Speaker 1: long ass plane ride very pleasant coming back home. Uh.
Speaker 1: Twenty six, twenty three, Raiders went over the Ravens. Ravens
Speaker 1: fall to oh and two. Apparently it's Kyler Murray's job
Speaker 1: to get Marvin Harrison Junior to football. The card rookie
Speaker 1: wide receiver followed a one catch performance in his NFL
Speaker 1: debut with one hundred and thirty and two touchdown in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. Kyler completed seventeen to twenty one passes,
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty six yards and three touchdowns. Kyler
Speaker 1: also rushed for fifty nine yards has touched on the
Speaker 1: deep throws to Harrison was unbelievable, and Harrison did a
Speaker 1: great job that first That first touchdown wasn't an easy catch, Yojoe.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that was not an easy catch. But did
Speaker 1: you see the difference between what he did and what
Speaker 1: likely had against Kansas City. You see what what Harrison
Speaker 1: Junior do?
Speaker 2: Go limp? You see you say this body just went
Speaker 2: limp o Joe, I ain't trying to stay at the
Speaker 2: go limp. Yeah boo that boy that a this class.
Speaker 2: He had neighbors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. We got to talk about neighbors
Speaker 1: to night. But Marvin Harrison Junior. Real But what what
Speaker 1: did you like? Because you said this old Joe, you said, hey,
Speaker 1: I bet they get him involved tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I just knew it.
Speaker 4: After having a showing the number number one number pick,
Speaker 4: was Marvin Harrison Jr.
Speaker 2: Like five four.
Speaker 4: To come out on your debut and have one catch?
Speaker 4: That's embarrassing, man, Not damn. I'm saying as an organization
Speaker 4: in general, not featuring the best receiver, arguably the best
Speaker 4: receiver in the draft.
Speaker 5: What what what are we doing? Are we even serious
Speaker 5: about winning? Competing?
Speaker 4: Not highlighting our new shiny toy. So I understood and
Speaker 4: knew what they were gonna do the follow a week. Oh,
Speaker 4: they finish feature him, or they finish get they finish,
Speaker 4: get him going, get him some targets, get.
Speaker 5: Him some touches. They did that in the first quarter.
Speaker 4: And I said, you know what, I sent the tweet
Speaker 4: out the chat the check of the test after that
Speaker 4: first quarter, I said, I guarantee you his stat line
Speaker 4: look exactly the same in the in the.
Speaker 5: First quarter as it does in the fourth, because they
Speaker 5: gonna stop feeding them.
Speaker 4: They do it every time because the defense to just Okay,
Speaker 4: y'all find eighteen as soon.
Speaker 5: As you break the huddle. But it's hard, Joe, were
Speaker 5: calling our playing off formation web eighteen lineup, we doubling,
Speaker 5: But oh.
Speaker 2: Joe, they ran the ball forty times for two thirty one.
Speaker 1: Hey, why I gotta throw at If I could just
Speaker 1: put the ball in the guy bell that he get
Speaker 1: your yards right, and I ain't got to worry about
Speaker 1: no tip passes. I ain't got to worry about, you know,
Speaker 1: guy slipping down to get picked. I just turned around
Speaker 1: and handed the Connor and he get five seven eight yards.
Speaker 1: I'm like bro Kyler Murray had James Connor had twenty
Speaker 1: one carriages touchdown. Kyler was five for fifty nine. De
Speaker 1: Mercado two for forty six. I mean, if y'all, if
Speaker 1: I tell you what this is what I to see
Speaker 1: on the defense all the time. If y'all stop TV,
Speaker 1: we'll throw it. But if you don't stop TV, we're.
Speaker 2: Not gonna throw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at least give yourself a chance. You let this man,
Speaker 1: youself eight ten yards of care. You think, Mike go
Speaker 1: call it down pass. I'm being hey, that's not there, y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all can't stop TD, We'll throw it.
Speaker 2: I promise you. If you stop TD twice, we're gonna
Speaker 2: throw it.
Speaker 5: Ain't going right in there.
Speaker 2: I mean Colin did seventeen to twenty one. I mean
Speaker 2: he was a man.
Speaker 1: Some of the players that he made that one he
Speaker 1: escaped and threw that strike to the touchdown, that touchdown
Speaker 1: in the back of his own and then he found
Speaker 1: Margaret Harrison Jr. On him escape, rolled it to his left,
Speaker 1: got it up over the top boom.
Speaker 2: I mean he played for No.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with Kyler because you see it, you
Speaker 1: see the guy like, yeah, he could do it, and
Speaker 1: then sometimes you like, Kyler, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 4: Like I like, especially especially when he run the ball,
Speaker 4: he looked like a little, bad little kid, like a
Speaker 4: bad little kid running away from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he takes like seven hundred, seven hundred steps
Speaker 1: in twenty yards I mean it was like, but he
Speaker 1: be booketed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he'd be out of that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean a phenomenal I mean, think
Speaker 1: about it. The guy was the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: in football. He was the number eighth pick in the
Speaker 1: in the MLB draft. Do you know they say the
Speaker 1: hardest sport. I've talked to guys that played both Bowl
Speaker 1: Brian Jordan time, Uh huh play both? John John got
Speaker 1: drafted the second round by the Yankees say the hardest
Speaker 1: of the two sports, it's baseball.
Speaker 2: Well, this guy with.
Speaker 1: Number one overall in football in number eight in the
Speaker 1: MLB draft.
Speaker 2: Do you know how immensely talented you have to be
Speaker 2: to be able to do that?
Speaker 1: And he won three states, three straight state titles in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas in the biggest division. And he
Speaker 1: didn't lose a game. I think he lost either one
Speaker 1: game or he lost no games. Do you understand in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas in the biggest division.
Speaker 5: Yeah, real deal, Texas football is different, right the man.
Speaker 1: You see they building fifty forty and fifty million dollars
Speaker 1: stadium at the high school school.
Speaker 2: Thet They got weight facilities that rival colleges.
Speaker 5: Where all that money coming from right there.
Speaker 2: Man, the hell of you.
Speaker 4: And I know, check where all that money coming from?
Speaker 4: Man for the high schools in Texas. Hey coming from somewhere.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the more I guess. Hey, they're like, hey,
Speaker 4: I take my nah, ain't no baseball. Somebody take time
Speaker 4: to get adjusted, bro. They pay you for They pay
Speaker 4: you four hundred million dollars to hit you fifty What
Speaker 4: other sport that you can fail seven seven times out
Speaker 4: of ten and make a half a bill?
Speaker 2: What's sport? Tell of the sport? Boy? Mm hmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: But the Cardinals bous back and they lay the SmackDown
Speaker 1: on the Rams forty one to ten. It was over
Speaker 1: in the first half. The score was twenty forty three.
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden it was like forty one
Speaker 1: to three, forty one to ten. Uh.
Speaker 2: The Rams, where did they go from here?
Speaker 1: With Joe Matthew Stafford nineteen or twenty seven two sixteen
Speaker 1: sacked five times, they could not.
Speaker 2: Run the football?
Speaker 1: Blake Orum eight for twenty eight, Uh, Kyrine Williams twelve
Speaker 1: for twenty five. Uh. And if I'm not mistaken, Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup got injured. So now poking the cool.
Speaker 4: Damn too. Where did they go to out? Man, Listen,
Speaker 4: it's only week two. It's definitely too early to hit
Speaker 4: the panic.
Speaker 5: But but you would expect the Rams, being who they are,
Speaker 5: to be the beat the Cardinals. But it's a new year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the new year. The Cardinals on who they
Speaker 4: were last year, and they put their point to day
Speaker 4: on why.
Speaker 1: But the Rams got an issue and its defensively because
Speaker 1: remember last week the Lions ran it down to and
Speaker 1: throats and guess what, the Cardinals came back and said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do you one better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's back to back weeks.
Speaker 5: Well, they ain't got they ain't got.
Speaker 2: That boy in the middle of now he ain't coming back.
Speaker 2: He ain't coming back. You might you never know. Now
Speaker 2: he ain't coming back. He like uh like nah, he said,
Speaker 2: he don't have the desire.
Speaker 1: Because when you that, you're competing against yourself, your younger self.
Speaker 1: They're not comparing to Aaron Donald, to any current player.
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald got compared to his younger self. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: got compared to him young his younger self. Peyton Greats
Speaker 1: get compared to the younger cells. They don't get compared
Speaker 1: to the players of Oh, oh, Tom Brady's playing like
Speaker 1: this guy. No, Tom measuring stick was a younger Tom.
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. Measuring stick is a younger Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: And he said.
Speaker 1: The fire to get up and jump out of bed
Speaker 1: and go train and be that guy that I need
Speaker 1: to be, and then everybody seeing me to be for
Speaker 1: a decade, I ain't got it. Yeah, And and not
Speaker 1: to steal it, not to take money. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about it, Oh Joe, cause he could have came back,
Speaker 1: but he's like, nah, I got a standard, three defensive
Speaker 1: players a year, defensive rookie of the Year, eight times
Speaker 1: First Team All Pro. Only ALT could rival then mm hm,
Speaker 1: that's I mean when you talk abou, when you talk
Speaker 1: about he and LT, I mean the three defensive players
Speaker 1: of the year, right, the defensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: the eight first team All Pro in a decade, the
Speaker 1: only different ALT got got a league MVP.
Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever see that again. I don't
Speaker 2: want to say never.
Speaker 1: I hate saying never and always, but in the likelihood
Speaker 1: of a defensive player winning MVP, not not Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year, Old Joe, he was the MVP of
Speaker 1: the entire league.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy. That would be a difficulty for anybody
Speaker 4: defensively to get.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna have thirty facts? He's gonna have
Speaker 1: twenty picks something like that. Well, I mean well, I
Speaker 1: mean anything possible. A kicker one of the nineteen a
Speaker 1: strike shortened season in nineteen eighty two. What are you
Speaker 1: looking for?
Speaker 5: I'm looking at the chat.
Speaker 2: Oh but uh yeah, the ram, the ram, the faith getting.
Speaker 1: You know, you lose Pooka, who didn't play Cooper got nick,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be very interesting. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: run the football you got. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, Oh Joe, you gotta stop, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to stop the run.
Speaker 2: If you can't stop the run, it's hard to win
Speaker 2: in the NFL. If you can't stop the run.
Speaker 5: You have to stop the run.
Speaker 4: You got to be able to run as well, because
Speaker 4: play action and being able to run the ball opens up.
Speaker 5: The passing game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I hope Pook's coming back next week. I'm not sure
Speaker 5: what the extent.
Speaker 2: Nah Pooko on our honor?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 5: Oh he not wait you got I thought it was
Speaker 5: just a hamstring, No Pooka, Yeah, no, he.
Speaker 1: Got an ankle. He got a knee or something. Nah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he on hour. He ain't coming back next What was.
Speaker 5: The extent of Cooper Cups injury.
Speaker 1: They didn't, They didn't give an update, but yeah, damn man.
Speaker 1: So the Rams fought O two and the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: one and one