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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George and

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Speaker 1: Ori with you our special guest Star casts with us.

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Speaker 1: Back with Us Traditional conjure Woman has been helping people

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Speaker 1: for more than thirty five years through her art of

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Speaker 1: old style conjuring. She's going to talk about what that is.

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Speaker 1: She is one of the pre eminent modern masters of

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Speaker 1: the Southern American style of folk magic as well, and

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Speaker 1: she maintains an active teaching schedule. Star is also among

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Speaker 1: the organizers of the annual New Orleans Folk Magic Festival

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Speaker 1: as well. Her latest book is called Divination, Conjure Style,

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Speaker 1: Reading Cards, Throwing Bones and other forms of Household Fortune Telling. Star,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program. Hello, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to this and through everything? And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have you explained what conjuring is. Throwing bones? What

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Speaker 1: is that? Okay? So I have a set of possum

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Speaker 1: bones and it's a topic devination and you throw the

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Speaker 1: bones and then you see how they land and that

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Speaker 1: it begins to tell a story and you can read

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Speaker 1: people's futures with it. For better words. Yeah, it's old

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Speaker 1: school It comes from Africa, traditional lee, and I learned

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Speaker 1: when I was really young. It started out as a

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Speaker 1: as a game, and I've just as I've gotten older,

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Speaker 1: I've got more in tuned with my ancestors than with

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Speaker 1: the spirits that walk with me. And I'm a good listener.

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Speaker 1: So I throw the bones and see where it leads me.

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Speaker 1: So the position of the bones tells you things. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: your bone set has a few different things in it.

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Speaker 1: I have a little female dolly, a little small dolly

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Speaker 1: that's a female, a male dolly. I have a seashell

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Speaker 1: that my grandson gave me when he was a small child,

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Speaker 1: and a few other things that give you the idea.

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Speaker 1: I can have a turtle, and so the turtles are slow.

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Speaker 1: So then depending on how that falls within the bones set,

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Speaker 1: it will tell me. If it's near the coins, then

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Speaker 1: maybe your money is running slow, you know, And then

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Speaker 1: from there we figure out what to do, you know,

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Speaker 1: in order to help your situation. Interesting taken. How many

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Speaker 1: bones are in your package? I have not counted them,

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Speaker 1: but the rule of some is not more than you

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Speaker 1: can hold in your hands. Okay, interesting in your two hands.

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Speaker 1: There was an old movie star years ago starring Kirk

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Speaker 1: Douglas called The Viking and it was a movie about

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Speaker 1: the Vikings. And in the movie there was like a

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Speaker 1: shaman woman who was, you know, crying out to odin

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Speaker 1: their god throwing bones. It's much like what I think

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Speaker 1: you're doing, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's similar. That is

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Speaker 1: similar to what I do now. Conjuring means what conjure

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Speaker 1: is just another word for root worker, for who do

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Speaker 1: I'm typically a healer by by nature. I think healing

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Speaker 1: was the first thing that I really learned in my

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Speaker 1: line of work starting out, and I learned treatments when

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Speaker 1: I was seventeen to treat my oldest boy who was

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Speaker 1: very ill as a small baby, and a mentor taught

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Speaker 1: me how to cleansing with the egg and use herbs

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Speaker 1: and stuff to brush him down with to relieve the

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Speaker 1: fever and to help with the asthma. So that's basically

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Speaker 1: what conjure is. It's a set of works that help

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Speaker 1: people achieve their goals in life, whatever it's maybe finding

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Speaker 1: a job, having peace in the home, bas to help

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Speaker 1: remove block So it's basically working with roots and curios.

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Speaker 1: I pray that everything worked out with your little boy, then, Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: he's grown to be a big man. He's forty eight

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Speaker 1: now and strong as an oct Yeah. Is he listening

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Speaker 1: to you right now, sir? Is he listening to you

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Speaker 1: right now? He probably is. He works night, so I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that he gets to listen. Give him a little

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Speaker 1: shout out if you want, stargoyhead, David, this is Mama,

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Speaker 1: love you man. Perfect. Now, the things that you do

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Speaker 1: there's real league. I mean, you're you're an enlightened person,

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Speaker 1: you always have been. But can it like Kudu and

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Speaker 1: things like that star, can it be taken the wrong way?

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Speaker 1: Can it be taken and used for evil? Yes? Anything can?

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, you know you know, um, there are no

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Speaker 1: you can have light without dark, and everybody knows that,

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Speaker 1: you know. And each worker, which is what we're called,

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Speaker 1: is responsible for our own actions. Everybody has to account

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Speaker 1: for the things that they do. But yes, there are

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Speaker 1: some works that can be done that could cause harm

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Speaker 1: if they were in the in the you know, in

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Speaker 1: the right person's hands that knew how to do those works.

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Speaker 1: I don't write about them and I don't teach them,

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Speaker 1: but they are out there. Since you've been doing this

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Speaker 1: thirty five plus years. What has been one of the

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Speaker 1: most remarkable stories you've encountered. I think a peaceful homework

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Speaker 1: that I did a long time ago. It's probably been

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Speaker 1: about thirty years ago. Before I go on the internet,

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Speaker 1: I simply worked word of mouth, no advertisements. You had

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Speaker 1: to know somebody who knew somebody in order to get

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Speaker 1: to me. And someone had told this lady. And I'm

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Speaker 1: still in contact with her even after all these years.

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Speaker 1: I don't see her all the time, but every once

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Speaker 1: in a while she'll pop up when she needs me.

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Speaker 1: One day, I was sitting at my kitchen table and

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Speaker 1: I heard a knock on the door, and I went

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Speaker 1: and opened up the door and it was this lady

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Speaker 1: with these three little kids, and my heart just dropped.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh Lord, okay, so here. I invited

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Speaker 1: her in, I said the kids. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: one of those situations and she needed help. She was

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Speaker 1: in an abusive relationship and needed to get out. And

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Speaker 1: so I did the prayers and did the work, and

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Speaker 1: she finally got out and her children are grown now.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of my biggest lessons. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's remarkable. I mean, you you really are an enlatented person.

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Speaker 1: And I bet you've been that way all your life,

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Speaker 1: haven't you. I think so. And I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of it has to do with my mama, because my

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Speaker 1: mama never turned to anybody away, you know, if they

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Speaker 1: were hungry, or they needed somewhere to stay, or they

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Speaker 1: needed help, she helped them. And that's how she raised us.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that it all started with her.

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Speaker 1: I think we are what we grow up seeing. Would

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Speaker 1: you consider yourself start a sensitive as well, or like

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Speaker 1: a medium? Do you sense spirit nothing? Well, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's spirits. But I'm good at reading folks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't need the cards. The cards are tool.

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Speaker 1: When I was young and first started to learn how

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Speaker 1: to read or really get in tune with my gift,

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Speaker 1: I could just tell people about themselves. Well, that scares

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Speaker 1: folks when you do that. So my cousin's anti taught

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Speaker 1: us how to read cards when I was sixtying, and

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Speaker 1: so I work with the cards and use them as

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Speaker 1: a tool. But I do sense things going on with folks,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what makes me a good reader,

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Speaker 1: because I don't necessarily have to depend totally on the cards.

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Speaker 1: I depend on my ancestors to my honor and the

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Speaker 1: spirits that walk with me. Now, when you talk about ancestors,

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Speaker 1: we all have. Ancestors are dearly departed loved ones, grandmothers, grandfathers.

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Speaker 1: And how far back is that lineage does it go?

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Speaker 1: Where they help you? I think that our blood will

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Speaker 1: always know our blood, and I think that there is

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Speaker 1: that we have a saying that we are never alone

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Speaker 1: because our thirty thousand ancestors walking with us to daily.

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