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Speaker 1: Sucky daters? Welcome to an all new episode of Help
Speaker 1: I Suck At Dating? And Boy, oh boy, do we
Speaker 1: have a special episode for you today. I know I
Speaker 1: say that every week, but this time I actually mean it. Uh.
Speaker 1: We have the long standing friendship and co hoster ship,
Speaker 1: the Lovely Sydney Lutwaco. I got the name right this time.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you if I got it right,
Speaker 1: because I freaking know I nailed at that time. She's
Speaker 1: gonna be co hosting with us. Of course, Jared is
Speaker 1: uh in you know the quote unquote virtual studio as well.
Speaker 1: We are going to have a page Woolen on later on.
Speaker 1: Who is an Instagram model who slides into d m
Speaker 1: s of boys with girlfriends and she tries to bust
Speaker 1: them for the sake of their girlfriend's sanity. Um, that's
Speaker 1: all coming later. But first, Sydney, it's been a while
Speaker 1: since we talked to you, So phillis in we last
Speaker 1: we heard from you. You were correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I know you and the boyfriend were quarantining together somewhere,
Speaker 1: but it was still pretty new, right, so kind of
Speaker 1: what's the development since the last time we talked. So
Speaker 1: I had moved out of my l a apartment. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be temporarily last time that we spoke
Speaker 1: because COVID and things like shutting down and my least
Speaker 1: being up. So I was like, Okay, I'll just move
Speaker 1: over everything to his house temporarily. We'll just figure it out.
Speaker 1: But um, it's what months now later and I'm still here. Um.
Speaker 1: So now we're in this domestic partnership thing and we're
Speaker 1: not married, but we're living together very permanently. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going well. And I'm in Ohio. Who know I think.
Speaker 1: I think this sentence we're not married, but lends the
Speaker 1: idea that eventually you will be married. Is that true?
Speaker 1: I hope So at this point, because it's going well,
Speaker 1: I was looking at like health insurance, and technically, in
Speaker 1: like health insurance terms, we are a domestic partnership, so
Speaker 1: we could I could go on his health insurance if
Speaker 1: I wanted to. Um, but he didn't love that idea.
Speaker 1: What are the qualifications for a domestic partnership? I think
Speaker 1: you have to be living together for a certain amount
Speaker 1: of months and be like sharing resources and you know,
Speaker 1: paying for rent and things like that. So I think technically,
Speaker 1: on paper we could be I could be on his insurance. Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't look into it any further because he was like, UM,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we shouldn't be doing all that,
Speaker 1: but that's good to know. That means I can jump.
Speaker 1: That means I can jump on Kalin's health insurance plans.
Speaker 1: Saved myself a couple of Yeah, Jackpot, so you're and
Speaker 1: you're in Ohio? You said, right, Yeah, I'm in Ohio,
Speaker 1: which is interesting for me because I was living in
Speaker 1: New York City for ten years, so super into the
Speaker 1: city life. And then I was in l a for
Speaker 1: like a few months, and now I'm in like rural,
Speaker 1: rural Ohio. So um, it's definitely different life. But what
Speaker 1: do we think? Do we like it? What do you
Speaker 1: like it? Um? Well, when I was like go getter,
Speaker 1: like auditioning, doing that whole thing, like the city made sense.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm like twenty nine, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: little older. It's kind of I'm like, oh, you're on
Speaker 1: the back nine, I know, but I feel like, I,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm getting close to thirty, Like it just
Speaker 1: feels nice to kind of relax, not saying that this
Speaker 1: is going to be like my permanent situation, but I
Speaker 1: feel like before I was like in the city, always working,
Speaker 1: like always hustling, always doing so much, and now just
Speaker 1: to kind of take this like slow down in this
Speaker 1: break and not focus on so much like work and hustling,
Speaker 1: and focusing on like my relationship and like this romantic
Speaker 1: part of my life. It's been kind of nice. Mary,
Speaker 1: I do well. I always said, like I said this before.
Speaker 1: I know my mom was like waiting for that to
Speaker 1: happen any day now. But um, oh you think he'll
Speaker 1: propose soon? No, no, no, no no, I'm just like
Speaker 1: she's just very excited about things. And this is my
Speaker 1: first relationship, so she you know, moms just want you
Speaker 1: to be like happy and like set and good. So
Speaker 1: she she's down for that. But I mean things are
Speaker 1: going really well. We're at a good pace. There's no
Speaker 1: pressure on it. I always did say I would I
Speaker 1: would be one and done, And I think that's why
Speaker 1: I waited to be in a relationship for so long,
Speaker 1: because I knew that whoever I wanted to end up
Speaker 1: with would be pretty serious because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do a lot of different relationships because I think I
Speaker 1: was just protecting myself in the back of my head,
Speaker 1: because I I, even though I come off really strong
Speaker 1: and like confident in all that stuff, like I'm sensitive
Speaker 1: in that way where I I don't think I could
Speaker 1: handle a lot of devastating relationships. So I kind of
Speaker 1: like put the walls up until I was ready to
Speaker 1: like let them down. And I finally started letting them
Speaker 1: down and it's going well. So yeah, I would never
Speaker 1: want to just jump into something that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be serious one day. So hopefully we get there. But
Speaker 1: have you noticed like the honeymoon phase at all wearing
Speaker 1: off or we're living together now, the phase kind of
Speaker 1: shuts off pretty quickly. We've had you guys have smelled
Speaker 1: each other's poop. Is that what you're telling us. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty open with all those things. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're just you're on each other. So it is an
Speaker 1: adjustment and we are a newer relationship. But I think
Speaker 1: because of the way that we met and how we
Speaker 1: built this connection before we ever were in person with
Speaker 1: each other, we were constantly on the phone, We talked
Speaker 1: on FaceTime for three months, so we were in a
Speaker 1: pretty solid place before we had even met um because
Speaker 1: we were doing all this during the pandemics, so we
Speaker 1: had to be really serious about whether this was going
Speaker 1: to be something that we saw ourselves, you know, doing,
Speaker 1: because we were in different states and you know, COVID
Speaker 1: restrictions and like being safe and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: we had that, you know, agreements kind of beforehand, and
Speaker 1: then when we met in person it kind of solidified that.
Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, we were much further along. But
Speaker 1: now that we're like living together and all my stuff
Speaker 1: is here, it definitely the honeymoon phase ends a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's still fun and we're still learning
Speaker 1: about each other and like learning about ourselves at the
Speaker 1: same time, because it's you learn a lot in relationship
Speaker 1: about like because they're like mirrors for who you are
Speaker 1: and like what you want to work on, what you
Speaker 1: need to work on to make this relationship successful. So
Speaker 1: it is work, but it's all still fun because he's
Speaker 1: like my best friend and oh so sweet here. When
Speaker 1: are we going to get him as a guest? I know,
Speaker 1: I mean he's another room and come in. He's been
Speaker 1: on my podcast. He's actually very interesting. Um guy, he's
Speaker 1: very interesting a lot. Yeah, yeah, you said he overcame
Speaker 1: some sort of uh he couldn't walk or something like
Speaker 1: that when he was He broke his neck in college
Speaker 1: and he was supposed to never walk again, and the
Speaker 1: practors were like, they did surgery on him and they
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, they're he's never going to walk in again,
Speaker 1: Start building ramps, start getting everything prepared in the house
Speaker 1: to his family, and then two or three days later
Speaker 1: he started getting sensation back, and the doctors like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not that's not real. That's just like you know,
Speaker 1: phantom muscles moving, that's not him. And then he was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's my body doing that. So then eventually he
Speaker 1: started to be able to get sensation back, and then
Speaker 1: he had to relearn how to walk. But he was
Speaker 1: supposed to never walk again, but it was five days
Speaker 1: later he was out of the hospital and walking, so
Speaker 1: kind of insane. So long term, are you guys going
Speaker 1: to walk out of Ohio and move back to l A,
Speaker 1: New York. I mean, you know, you said you like
Speaker 1: Ohio now, but is he going to be able to
Speaker 1: see himself maybe moving to a city at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he has been. He's met my family a few times.
Speaker 1: We were just at Thanksgiving together. He he loves Virginia too,
Speaker 1: and um, I'm from Virginia Beach. That's like my hometown.
Speaker 1: So eventually I would like to be closer to my family.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're like ten hours away. So we've talked
Speaker 1: about it, the conversations there. I think it just kind
Speaker 1: of we're gonna take it day by day. Um, but
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Like I was talking to Kendall long earlier
Speaker 1: about her and Joe and how like the fact that
Speaker 1: he wanted to stay in Chicago and she wanted to
Speaker 1: stay in like kind of ultimately what led to them
Speaker 1: breaking up. So that kind of freaks me out a
Speaker 1: little bit. But for now it's working. I just think
Speaker 1: with when something's right, you kind of and you know
Speaker 1: that you wanted to be your future that you kind
Speaker 1: of make sacrifices. Are you kind of you know, agree
Speaker 1: on or you're supposed to be end up as a
Speaker 1: couple instead of individually. So I don't know, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens, but for now, So you guys went to
Speaker 1: Virginia for Thanksgiving, Yes to see your family. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna do for Christmas? Are you gonna go see
Speaker 1: guy family? Um? So I see his famil all the time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're going to spend Christmas here and then
Speaker 1: we'll probably go see my family at some point around Christmas.
Speaker 1: Was this the first time you ever brought a guy
Speaker 1: home for the holidays? Obviously? Right? Yeah, for sure that, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was weird at first, and especially because
Speaker 1: you have to do the thing where like do we
Speaker 1: sleep in the same bed? Do we sleep in separate rooms? Like?
Speaker 1: How do we do that? And my I mean, my
Speaker 1: mom was good about it. She let us stay in
Speaker 1: the same room. It was interesting, but because we're already
Speaker 1: living together here, it just kind of made sense. It
Speaker 1: was like okay and not weird. The fact that I
Speaker 1: was bringing someone home and we were staying in the
Speaker 1: same bed. In the way I had to sleep in
Speaker 1: a separate bedroom than Ashley when staying was until we
Speaker 1: were married, even though we lived together in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: anytime we came here, I mean repect that. I respected
Speaker 1: it too, even when you were married. Uh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: before we got married. Okay, Okay, obviously we sleep in
Speaker 1: the same bedroom now because we quarantine here for I mean,
Speaker 1: we're quarantined here for three months. Even though it would
Speaker 1: have been quite lovely to have my own bed for
Speaker 1: three months, I digress. Um, now we can, but we
Speaker 1: had to wait. Even when we were engaged in living
Speaker 1: together in Los Angeles, anytime we visited here, we were
Speaker 1: on separate floors. I mean she was on yep, I
Speaker 1: was in I was in the basement. I've always been
Speaker 1: pretty strict about that too. Now it's a little bit different.
Speaker 1: But before, if I would ever go visit like a
Speaker 1: girlfriend's family, I would always be like, I'm sleeping on
Speaker 1: the cash. Like, even if you wanted me to sleep
Speaker 1: in the same room as you, I don't. I just
Speaker 1: don't think it's really appropriate, especially like at your parents
Speaker 1: house or something, you know what I mean. I mean
Speaker 1: I offered and then they were fine with it. But before,
Speaker 1: like my brother would have girlfriends and he one of
Speaker 1: them one on vacation with us to Hawaii, and I
Speaker 1: had to sleep with her instead of him sleeping with
Speaker 1: the girlfriend. So I was I was kissed because I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what's screw it, let them sleep
Speaker 1: together because I want my own bed. So they in
Speaker 1: the past I think again because I'm now older and
Speaker 1: because we already are living together. It just it was fine, um,
Speaker 1: but it was interesting. Like one of the days, uh, Nick,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend went um golfing like my dad and my
Speaker 1: brother all day long without me. So like they did
Speaker 1: that whole thing, and I was super nervous about it
Speaker 1: because I like couldn't help, you know, have everyone get along.
Speaker 1: But it seemed like they did fine. Dolphin is the
Speaker 1: ultimate guy bond, Like there's nothing that just brings men
Speaker 1: together more than a nice eighteen hole. And Jared refuses
Speaker 1: to golf with me. Dude, I always want to golf
Speaker 1: with you. You're the one. You were in Virginia for
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and I was like, oh, let's go golf and
Speaker 1: You're like, well, I'm leaving the day after and it's like,
Speaker 1: for what, just stay? I know, I know, but you
Speaker 1: are always golfing and Tanner leaving me out. Anyways, said,
Speaker 1: do you feel any pressure with Christmas right around the
Speaker 1: corner as far as just like you know, if you
Speaker 1: make getting married gifts first Christmas with a boyfriend. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's a lot because like you,
Speaker 1: essentially I have to get gifts for his whole family now,
Speaker 1: and he has a large family, so I'm like, I
Speaker 1: didn't budget enough for this, you know, things that you
Speaker 1: don't think about like that. But we're in a pandemic. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody's getting a box of junior mids exactly, so there's
Speaker 1: things like that. But I mean, I spend so much
Speaker 1: time around his family it's kind of chill. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We had a really steamless transition into this relationship, so
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like waiting for the other shooter drop
Speaker 1: but it hasn't and it seems to be going well.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just because we both were in
Speaker 1: that place in our lives too. I want to make
Speaker 1: a seamless transition here, not to change gears or anything,
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk about how you and
Speaker 1: Becca were on tatious episode of the Bachelorette just recently, right,
Speaker 1: we were, yeah, last week, So full disclosure, I haven't
Speaker 1: really been watching um Caitlan tries to get me to
Speaker 1: watch with her. I just I just I just can't.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Maybe it's because I've been through
Speaker 1: you know, obviously we've all been through the process, but
Speaker 1: I was never really a fan before, and I just
Speaker 1: it kind of holds curious to tell me about your
Speaker 1: experience going back, but obviously not as a contestant this time,
Speaker 1: more so as like a sounding board, um and as
Speaker 1: a friend, right, so tell us about it. I like
Speaker 1: that better because it wasn't as dramatic for me. I
Speaker 1: just got to be supportive to Tasia. I know, Jared,
Speaker 1: you just did it too, but yeah, I had I
Speaker 1: felt like I had control over the situation. I knew
Speaker 1: the script, I knew who it was, I knew what
Speaker 1: the date was like. It was a much better setting
Speaker 1: for me. I feel like for anyone it would have
Speaker 1: been better. Um, but it was fun. And like Tasha,
Speaker 1: I feel is should have been the bachelorette years ago.
Speaker 1: Like she's an incredible person. She's like celebrities. She just
Speaker 1: like gives that like energy off. She can control a room,
Speaker 1: and I think like this was absolutely where she should
Speaker 1: have been. And I was so excited as her friend
Speaker 1: to get to witness her do that because she just
Speaker 1: looks so natural and the guys loved her that everyone
Speaker 1: on the show like loved her and just thought that
Speaker 1: she was like this breath of fresh air. W she
Speaker 1: is so it's really cool as her friend to see
Speaker 1: and for me to be able to support her and
Speaker 1: help her find a guy that's going to be worthy
Speaker 1: of her was really exciting for me, and I got
Speaker 1: to see like in behind the scenes. They let me
Speaker 1: into the Bachelorette bubble, which was cool. Um, it was
Speaker 1: interesting having a quarantine for that because I was nervous
Speaker 1: flying there and maybe catching COVID somehow and then having
Speaker 1: to stay in the hotel for like months would have sucked.
Speaker 1: So luckily that didn't happen. Did you did you tell Nick?
Speaker 1: Like he could have? Like? Where? Did it? Pretty funny? Like, Hey, Nick,
Speaker 1: I'm let me go on the Bachelorette. I'll see you later,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah. I actually didn't do
Speaker 1: a good job of like breaking the news to him
Speaker 1: because I was staying here and this was before I
Speaker 1: was living here, and I came home from like being
Speaker 1: with a friend one day and I was like, um, so, anyways,
Speaker 1: the Bachelor called me and so one of the producers
Speaker 1: wanted me to come on the show and he was
Speaker 1: like wait, what, Like what do you mean. I was like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm helping Tasha or whoever. The bachelorette was at the time,
Speaker 1: because I didn't actually know it was Tasha. I'm helping
Speaker 1: the bachelorette with the date, and my my friend's gonna
Speaker 1: be there. It'll be fine, Like I'm not dating anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to help them coming back, Okay, Like
Speaker 1: that's fine. But we're like, look, he's sort of on
Speaker 1: the topic which guys were your favorite? And obviously you're
Speaker 1: never gonna be on Paradise again. But if you were
Speaker 1: to go on Paradise again, which one of them would
Speaker 1: you be once interested in? Okay, So on my date,
Speaker 1: I think it was like Bennett, Blake Easy, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to Riley, uh, Zack and Anny Kenny. Who's Kenny? Ye
Speaker 1: Kenny Kenny? Okay, yes, So it was like that group,
Speaker 1: and out of them, I thought she was like very
Speaker 1: very much by being with Zach. She wanted us to
Speaker 1: kind of push Riley out of his shell. I remember,
Speaker 1: and that I think that group she was I didn't
Speaker 1: know as well, it seemed to me and Becca, so
Speaker 1: she wanted to kind of get to know them better.
Speaker 1: And I think that was the group that was a
Speaker 1: little bit more reserved or like holding back a little
Speaker 1: bit with her, so we had to push them, which
Speaker 1: is why we made them do ridiculous things like you know,
Speaker 1: proposed to her while after eating a pepper and drinking
Speaker 1: smoothies man out of bugs and things like that. So
Speaker 1: that was super fun to torture men. Um. Yeah, always
Speaker 1: a good time torturing guys. As far as like who
Speaker 1: I like for her out of everyone, I really like Ben.
Speaker 1: I think that he's finally opening up, which is really
Speaker 1: cool to see. And I think that he's definitely gonna
Speaker 1: be a front runner. It's random that Spencer was her
Speaker 1: what is it first impression Rose, And no, we don't
Speaker 1: know him at all anymore. That's interesting. Um, But I
Speaker 1: also really like Ivan, so I feel like and I've
Speaker 1: been for me or the front runners right now, I've
Speaker 1: been watching on in off Tasia. First of all, like
Speaker 1: you said, made for this role, she's amazing. And then
Speaker 1: also what you said about it's way better being a
Speaker 1: guest host than a contestant, Oh my god, it's a
Speaker 1: thousand times better. Oh it's the freaking best. It actually
Speaker 1: going back, and I'm sure you felt similar. I felt
Speaker 1: so grateful that I don't have to do it again.
Speaker 1: Not to say that I don't love the show. Not
Speaker 1: to say that I didn't love going through the process
Speaker 1: of the show. I really did. It was amazing meeting everybody.
Speaker 1: I met my wife through it. But my god, the
Speaker 1: idea of going back and having to do it all
Speaker 1: over again and just finding the energy to do it again,
Speaker 1: the energy, like even for the one day of filming,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm exhausted. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you're staying up and doing this, Tasha. It's
Speaker 1: insane to think about like the hours it takes to
Speaker 1: find and then trying to fight for the lead, and
Speaker 1: then like fight for time and then try to stay
Speaker 1: out of the drama and not be concerned with other testints.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no way. What did you think? Because I
Speaker 1: saw this last week when the guys were on the
Speaker 1: group day and they were all talking about vulnerability insecurities,
Speaker 1: and it was a really I saw it and it
Speaker 1: was one of my honestly favorite uh scenes from any
Speaker 1: Bachelor season. It was powerful and it was it just
Speaker 1: hit me. And and then Ben did something that was
Speaker 1: very interesting where he wanted to show his vulnerability not
Speaker 1: by his words but by his physical stature, and he
Speaker 1: took his clothes off in frontation the other guys. So
Speaker 1: what did you think about that? Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: say I did love the vulnerability aspect. I feel like
Speaker 1: you only get to see that on one on one day.
Speaker 1: It's usually on the show, and like that's the time
Speaker 1: that they tell their secret or their thing. But I
Speaker 1: felt like it was really cool and awesome to see
Speaker 1: all of every one of their sides of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: who doesn't want to see men naked? But like I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel that was being vulnerable. I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know that was interesting. I did like
Speaker 1: that he was vulnerable later in the date, but I
Speaker 1: thought that was it was a bold choice, so it
Speaker 1: makes you stand out. Um. I just don't know that
Speaker 1: that would have worked for every single guy there necessarily,
Speaker 1: But um, I did appreciate him being so open later
Speaker 1: on in the date. If Ben was trying to date me,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have liked it. Now, Tassia seemed emotionally moved
Speaker 1: by it, which to each their own, but for me,
Speaker 1: if you're not if you're thinking about entering a relationship
Speaker 1: with someone and they are unable to talk about their
Speaker 1: vulnerabilities and for some reason the only way they can
Speaker 1: express their vulnerabilities is by getting naked. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's something we gotta work on because we've got a
Speaker 1: communication is most important part in a relationship, and so
Speaker 1: we have to talk things through. You know, we can't
Speaker 1: always just take our clothes off. Yeah, you can't just
Speaker 1: get naked every time it gets hard, right pun intended? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I agree, like there could have been. He has
Speaker 1: so much more to share. I feel like you can
Speaker 1: you can sense that from him. But for whatever is that,
Speaker 1: he's not sharing any of it early like he would
Speaker 1: went up a little bit this last episode, but I
Speaker 1: feel like he needs to really pick it up because
Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, fall behind if he's not being
Speaker 1: so open like a lot of the other guys are
Speaker 1: being like Ivan and all the other ones on that date.
Speaker 1: So I agree, all right, said, well we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break. Um, thank you for your insight. Onto
Speaker 1: tacious season of The Bachelorette. But I'm excited for this
Speaker 1: next bit because we have Paige Woolen, who is an
Speaker 1: Instagram smoke show. It's funny we say that because of
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette Instagram smoke show that slides into guys d
Speaker 1: M s per the request of their girl friends to
Speaker 1: see if they will slip up and try to meet
Speaker 1: up with them and commit some infidelities that we don't want,
Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. It's gonna be interesting. We
Speaker 1: will be right back after this quick break. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to help I suck at dating Dean, myself, Sydney are
Speaker 1: all still here. We have a very special guest on
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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. How are you? Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. I'm great. I'm so excited to be on
Speaker 1: here with you. So I heard you met Dean before,
Speaker 1: So did you catch Dean and the d M san.
Speaker 1: I'll let you take this one. How about how about you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell the story about how Page and I met.
Speaker 1: I I don't really remember, but it was back when
Speaker 1: when I first moved to Los Angeles, Like right at
Speaker 1: the first month, we had a bottomless Mimosa brunch with
Speaker 1: a bunch of friends and then we uh then went
Speaker 1: to a house party, and somewhere along the way, pages
Speaker 1: friend group and my friend group I think met up
Speaker 1: and and then we had to hung out a couple
Speaker 1: of times just around l A, like partying and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But unfortunately, there, I mean unless
Speaker 1: page and it maybe not something I don't know, but
Speaker 1: there was never any juicy DM sliding, which is a
Speaker 1: little unfortunate. Yeah. God, I would have been made it
Speaker 1: for a juice your podcast for we were we were
Speaker 1: working on getting you, um scheduled in for the podcast
Speaker 1: and everything, and then all of a sudden your picture
Speaker 1: pops up and I was like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: know this person. This is gonna be hilarious. So yeah,
Speaker 1: called out. Yeah, called out, So Paige first of all
Speaker 1: telling people exactly what you do. And I'm curious how
Speaker 1: it all started. Yeah, So, um, you know, I started
Speaker 1: dudes in the d M actually at the beginning of quarantine. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I post a lot of bikini lingerie photos
Speaker 1: on Instagram. So I was receiving a lot of crazy
Speaker 1: d ms, you know, funny, creepy, harassment, you know, just
Speaker 1: all everything, all sorts of things, and I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the world needs to see this, I think
Speaker 1: people might be surprised that, you know, models and all
Speaker 1: these different kinds of people get different kinds of d
Speaker 1: m s and their d M So I thought, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna put this up and just show people.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna black out everyone's name so I don't get
Speaker 1: taken down by Instagram. Um. And then recently, you know,
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago, I was like six
Speaker 1: classes of wine deep and I thought to myself, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what, these guys keep dm ng me with
Speaker 1: their girlfriends in their profile photos, Like I wonder if
Speaker 1: these girls know. So I threw up a story and
Speaker 1: I said, Hey, any of my girl followers, you know,
Speaker 1: messaged me on my main account at page Woolen, and
Speaker 1: I'll DM your boyfriend will slide into his d m
Speaker 1: s and see like what goes on there. Dangerous. It's
Speaker 1: super dangerous. Like that's terrifying, but also you're doing the
Speaker 1: right thing. So have you gotten like some crazy stories
Speaker 1: about to find out if their dude is going to
Speaker 1: cheat on them? Well, okay, so you know, before the
Speaker 1: story sort of exploded, I had like thirty thousand followers
Speaker 1: on my account. Dudes in the d M you know,
Speaker 1: since it's on sort of like crazy viral, and I've
Speaker 1: had maybe ten thousand messages from females saying things like,
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant, you know, my fiance I know is cheating.
Speaker 1: I just need to see it in black and white.
Speaker 1: Like these crazy, crazy stories have sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: sliding into my d M s now that this sort
Speaker 1: of went viral, it's really it's really interesting. That's super interesting.
Speaker 1: So do you are you the one that responds to
Speaker 1: the guys? Yes? Yeah, because you're you're your Your responses
Speaker 1: are kind of my favorite part, not even the d
Speaker 1: M s. Like one dude so on the dudes in
Speaker 1: the d M, one of them says, I want to
Speaker 1: play coronavirus and get spread on hard surfaces and then
Speaker 1: you respawn only if you last fourteen days. And I
Speaker 1: was like, the response is so much better than the
Speaker 1: d M. Yeah, I try, thank you, I try. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to shed light on cyber bullying
Speaker 1: and show people, you know, I like to laugh through trauma,
Speaker 1: which I should probably see a therapist about, but I
Speaker 1: think like finding humor in things that are maybe not
Speaker 1: so humorous. Um, it was the way to go from
Speaker 1: me so I thought, if I could start a community
Speaker 1: of people that maybe risk also steve like threatening you
Speaker 1: know d ms or funny dms, and we can start
Speaker 1: a community where we can talk about it, then maybe
Speaker 1: we can shed some light on like what's really going
Speaker 1: on and like the dark you know hallways of the
Speaker 1: d ms. So it's like it's like an empowering thing.
Speaker 1: I think is like is really where it stems from?
Speaker 1: It sounds like yeah, yeah, I'm trying. I mean, I'm trying,
Speaker 1: and I think like a lot of women and even
Speaker 1: men have said, oh gosh, you know, I send dms
Speaker 1: like this, but reading it on someone else's I realized
Speaker 1: that it's offensive. So like, I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: that creepy anymore because it's hard to you know, some guys,
Speaker 1: of course, are joking. Um, you know, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: guys have. I don't know if you guys have read
Speaker 1: some of them. Some of them, I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: they say in a joking way, but it comes across
Speaker 1: like not joking online it's hard to tell the tone.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. If I I mean, listen, if if
Speaker 1: people can go back and read some of the d
Speaker 1: ms that I've sent, a either as a bad sarcastic
Speaker 1: joke or be when I was just like drunk and
Speaker 1: messing out with my friends. I'm sure do you remember
Speaker 1: one of that? I would die of embarrassment. I mean
Speaker 1: I know of one in particular, but there's a zero
Speaker 1: percent chance I would ever share that publicly with anyone.
Speaker 1: All block out your name. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 1: I'll be paying attention to dude in the d M
Speaker 1: very closely over the next couple of days because it
Speaker 1: will be Dean's d M. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's
Speaker 1: just as jokes, especially like when you're in like a
Speaker 1: social environment, you're hanging out with your friends, You're like,
Speaker 1: how funny would it be if I said this? And
Speaker 1: then you send it? And then like a day later,
Speaker 1: you're like, wait, that was the dumbest thing I could
Speaker 1: have ever possibly said. Why would I ever say that?
Speaker 1: Was it like a pickup line or was it something
Speaker 1: a little further than that. It was one of those
Speaker 1: things where my friends were like where I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this girl's really cute, and my friends were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, say this to her, and then I said
Speaker 1: it to her, and then I looked back on it
Speaker 1: like a couple days later, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: would I ever do that? Yeah, if I'm always were
Speaker 1: telling you to send it? Yeah, exactly, And the receipts
Speaker 1: are there, and I don't like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: there was any recourse or anything taken because of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there were screenshots. But my point is, uh,
Speaker 1: I imagine at least from like me, from my perspective,
Speaker 1: and maybe guys that I would call my friends, A
Speaker 1: lot of them do it jokingly, but I would have
Speaker 1: bet you as well. And Paige, you probably know the
Speaker 1: best that a lot of them are serious when they
Speaker 1: say those weird things, right. Oh yeah, And since you
Speaker 1: know I, you know, I was on all sorts of
Speaker 1: different platforms, um, and it was interesting the mail driven platforms,
Speaker 1: you know, like Big Boys, Channel, whatever, the Shade Room,
Speaker 1: all of those. You know, I've been getting hundreds thousands
Speaker 1: of d ms from guys with just the rat emoji
Speaker 1: over and over and over again, and like people are
Speaker 1: calling me like a snitch and like a homeworking horror.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say that, but um,
Speaker 1: And so it's interesting to see a sort of a
Speaker 1: gender divide kind of with the women being really supportive
Speaker 1: and the men just calling me like master Splinter and
Speaker 1: like it's been it's been really interesting, Splinter because they're
Speaker 1: getting caught. So that's why they're getting If you weren't
Speaker 1: the wrong, you wouldn't be so Yeah, bad about trigger.
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, the guys, it's it's kind of nice.
Speaker 1: It's a nice filter too, because the guys that are
Speaker 1: saying that those types of things to you are the
Speaker 1: guys that you're outing, and so it's like it's kind
Speaker 1: of adding themselves as you guys as well, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's kind of like a I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's good. I think you're doing
Speaker 1: a good service for the girls out there. We talked
Speaker 1: a lot about this on the podcast, like what is cheating?
Speaker 1: What is not cheating? So page, what do you constitute
Speaker 1: is cheating? Like a guy just answering you, is that
Speaker 1: too far? Should he answer at all? Or is it
Speaker 1: like when he asked for a picture or when he
Speaker 1: wants to hang out? So you know, the thing that
Speaker 1: I was doing with the whip Like for me personally,
Speaker 1: if you're answering, I'm like, why are you answering this
Speaker 1: random bikini mo. No girl wants their boyfriend talking to
Speaker 1: one that, especially if you don't know. So that's for
Speaker 1: me personally. But with these women that I was sort
Speaker 1: of helping out every step of the way. I would
Speaker 1: screenshot it and send it to her and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you want me to say? Because I always
Speaker 1: wanted her to feel like she had the power with
Speaker 1: the conversation and that I wasn't overstepping any boundaries. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean you know one one like one girl was like, oh,
Speaker 1: can you like send him nudes? And I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: I Am not sending your boyfriend nude to me? Like
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So I let the I let the girls
Speaker 1: hold all the power so that I wasn't overseepping any boundaries.
Speaker 1: Interesting as as you grow bigger, have you have has
Speaker 1: anyone identified you in the d MS before you go
Speaker 1: to the process? Dude, Like they know who you are? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So one of the actually it was a guy that
Speaker 1: was following me like like night one, I messaged like
Speaker 1: fifty guys and one guy said like, ha hat jokes
Speaker 1: on you etiot. I already followed Yeah, he was like
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. Yeah, he was ready and and and something
Speaker 1: like one guy was like, I know this is the trap.
Speaker 1: A couple of guys thought that I was a bought
Speaker 1: you know. Once said like you know, no, I don't
Speaker 1: want to sign up for your only fans. Like, so
Speaker 1: I didn't get a bunch of guys saying like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go to poundtown. Some of them were respectful of
Speaker 1: their girlfriends and like mean to me. I was called
Speaker 1: like a Walmart Kardashian, which I think is fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, there was all sorts of responses. I feel like,
Speaker 1: as you get bigger, you should be like an agency
Speaker 1: and you should have different accounts and women doing this
Speaker 1: so that it's not all you. So that way you
Speaker 1: can make this into this like big industry totally because
Speaker 1: I want to. I really do want to help all
Speaker 1: the women in my d ms. But now I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's like, you know, with with my face sort of
Speaker 1: being like plastered everywhere. I'm not everywhere, but you guys
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just feel like, Okay, the
Speaker 1: jig is that how can I you know, I can't
Speaker 1: like put on a wigs and well that could be
Speaker 1: kind of fun potentially, but I need more more women
Speaker 1: exactly to sort of uncover these cheaters. How is dudes
Speaker 1: in the DM affected your personal dating life? Is it
Speaker 1: weird for like, if you're dating a guy or if
Speaker 1: you're whatever and the like, does he get upset about it?
Speaker 1: Or is that like a weird barrier? Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I am painfully single. Okay, it's painful, it hurts. But um,
Speaker 1: sometimes times when guys slide into my d M s
Speaker 1: and let's say they're like, you know, a celebrity, he'll say,
Speaker 1: he'll slide in there and then he'll have a conversation
Speaker 1: and then he'll start on sending them because he'll look
Speaker 1: through my profile see I own a dudes in the
Speaker 1: d M account, and then he'll be like, oh shoot,
Speaker 1: I don't want the scroll to put me on blasts.
Speaker 1: So I think I think there is like a level
Speaker 1: of life. And I never posted with names like you
Speaker 1: could see that if you fall the account. But I
Speaker 1: think there is like a level of like you know,
Speaker 1: like no one really wants to be like exposed like that.
Speaker 1: So but you know, it's all it's all for good
Speaker 1: fun and it's all just to build up like a
Speaker 1: community people, right. I think that the censorship of the
Speaker 1: names of the accounts too, is pretty key, right, Like
Speaker 1: you're not You're not purposefully it's entertainment at the end
Speaker 1: of the day to like, yes, you're helping the women
Speaker 1: catch their their infidel boyfriends, but also you're sharing it
Speaker 1: aunties with the d m s because it's a entertaining
Speaker 1: obviously because you have so many followers on that now
Speaker 1: and be you know, it's kind of like a double
Speaker 1: edged sword, I guess, right for sure, for sure, absolutely,
Speaker 1: what's the craziest story? Have you exposed someone who's been
Speaker 1: married with three kids? You know? Not that I know,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't I didn't start getting like extreme backstories
Speaker 1: until the article sort of exploded. But one girl was
Speaker 1: like planning on marrying this guy and she's and he
Speaker 1: said like in text, no I don't have a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: let's meet uh And you know, it broke my heart.
Speaker 1: But I screenshot it and sent it to her and
Speaker 1: she literally said she literally said, I just I just
Speaker 1: needed to see it from my own eyes, like you
Speaker 1: saved my life. So and she blocked him on everything,
Speaker 1: and like, I mean, it is messy and it's not
Speaker 1: like I like, you know, like those responses, but you know,
Speaker 1: it just sort of like happened one day. M hm,
Speaker 1: you're doing the lord's work page. That's all I can say.
Speaker 1: I try, I'm trying, I'm trying, and you're you're finding
Speaker 1: a good way to keep yourself entertained during quarantine too,
Speaker 1: which is great. Exactly being exactly, We'll make sure everybody
Speaker 1: listening you follow Page Woodland on Instagram. Of course it
Speaker 1: is at Page Woodland, and of course make sure you
Speaker 1: guys follow at Dudes in the d M because there's
Speaker 1: some really good content on there and I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to see Dean's dam up there very soon. Page. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Thanks Page, You're gonna see you again.
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Welcome back to help I sect
Speaker 1: at dating. That was an awesome segment Dudes and the
Speaker 1: d M s. I actually just started following them, and
Speaker 1: I'm very excited specifically to see your d ms once again.
Speaker 1: But we have a great special guest on here, so
Speaker 1: we're gonna start a new segment and once again we
Speaker 1: really need easily and get like some sort of sound
Speaker 1: effect that that that that that that sucky dating stories.
Speaker 1: So that's a segment right there, we're gonna start talking
Speaker 1: about people sucky dating stories. Because our podcast is called
Speaker 1: help I Suck at Dating. We there's so many things
Speaker 1: that we suck at in relationships and dating, and one
Speaker 1: thing that we all suck at sometimes is dates. Sometimes
Speaker 1: we suck on dates, and so we really want to
Speaker 1: hear more sucky dating stories. So anybody listening out there,
Speaker 1: if you have a horrible date story and it was
Speaker 1: one of the suckiest experiences you've ever had on a date,
Speaker 1: please email us d MS. We want to hear from you. Guys.
Speaker 1: We want to hear about your stories. But first and foremost,
Speaker 1: we have very special guest. She works with us. She
Speaker 1: works on I Heart Radio. She's a producer on this show.
Speaker 1: She's fantastic. Riley. Hello, Hey, how's it going wonderful? How
Speaker 1: are you? I'm good. I'm ready to talk about my
Speaker 1: sucky dating stories. I was about say, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: the first person ever for this segment my sucky dating story. So, Riley,
Speaker 1: what's your sucky dating story? Yes? So, I'm a bit
Speaker 1: like a fly that runs into a window when it
Speaker 1: comes to dating apps, Like I hit the window, but
Speaker 1: I try again. So this one, um, I went on
Speaker 1: a date a few weeks ago and he was completely
Speaker 1: my type. I was excited. We met up. Um, we
Speaker 1: spent like three hours talking like. I thought it went great.
Speaker 1: When he walked towards me, I felt like the heavens
Speaker 1: opened up because he was he was just so good looking. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought it went great, and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is the first time in a year that I enjoyed
Speaker 1: a date. So I was excited. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this could be something. UM. So fast forward, we plan
Speaker 1: on going on another date. Um, it's like Thanksgiving. So
Speaker 1: I check in to talk about our date, and the
Speaker 1: first thing he says is, how is Carl's Bad? And
Speaker 1: it's like, um, who went to Carl's Bad? We never
Speaker 1: talked about Carl's Bad. We never talked about you know,
Speaker 1: me ever going to Carl's bad, or knowing anything about
Speaker 1: girl's bad. Um. So I knew right there that he
Speaker 1: had mixed me up with somebody else, that he had
Speaker 1: been talking to you. He tried to play it off
Speaker 1: he had just moved here from New York, so he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought that was just something that l A people
Speaker 1: do on holiday. That's a horrible way to play it off. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah. I was like, well, you know, I felt
Speaker 1: special on the date, but I don't feel special anymore.
Speaker 1: It should have been like my mom was going to
Speaker 1: Carl's bed. I was just checking up on her. You
Speaker 1: want to know what's so funny about that is I
Speaker 1: I think I don't know if you guys remember, but
Speaker 1: when I shared my first I'm sorry, my worst bumble
Speaker 1: or dating app story date, that was exactly the same situation.
Speaker 1: The girl kept mixing me up with other guys that
Speaker 1: she had been on dates with, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the worst. It's like, I don't feel special
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah, Dean, I'm sure. I'm sure you've spent
Speaker 1: the majority of your dating life only talking to one
Speaker 1: girl at a time. My point is right where you're
Speaker 1: coming from. I'm sorry to do with that, you know,
Speaker 1: onto the next gues here. Here, here's the question for you.
Speaker 1: So it went really well. You guys went on one day, right.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was improper for him to talk
Speaker 1: to other girls at the same time. No, not at all,
Speaker 1: And I like, I didn't take any offense to it.
Speaker 1: It was more of like, that's just not where I
Speaker 1: am where I want to date multiple people at once.
Speaker 1: And like, if you're going to date multiple people, like
Speaker 1: keep them straight, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: clearly he was not just dating one other girl, because
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be able to keep that straight.
Speaker 1: But he was clearly dating multiple people. And he can't
Speaker 1: even remember where you went for the holidays and it
Speaker 1: was like a week ago. So that's problematic. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: that regard, Yeah, yeah, I put in the effort to
Speaker 1: remember facts and names. That was he apologetic about it
Speaker 1: at all? Or he was just like lying, No, he
Speaker 1: was just lying like he tried, like he tried to
Speaker 1: play it off and then he I knew it was
Speaker 1: he that he knew he messed up because I didn't
Speaker 1: respond right away, and he responded with like this paragraph
Speaker 1: of like, oh well, I thought this is just what
Speaker 1: people doing in l A. Like he knew he was caught.
Speaker 1: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. This is I
Speaker 1: just thought everybody goes down there, it's like the cool
Speaker 1: thing to do. So Riley, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: if he would have been honest about it, would you
Speaker 1: have given him a second chance? Yeah? Like I think
Speaker 1: if he was like, oh shoot, I'm sorry, I messed up,
Speaker 1: like I am dating multiple people. I would have I
Speaker 1: would have been like okay, but he never pursued it
Speaker 1: further to like he goes to me, like I didn't
Speaker 1: hear from him after that, Like so I think he
Speaker 1: was just like, Yeah, this is not a guy you
Speaker 1: want to date. Honestly, it was probably better that you
Speaker 1: found out this way early on rather than God forbid,
Speaker 1: like more dates down the line and you gain feelings
Speaker 1: for this guy and you find out that he's like
Speaker 1: dating six other girls and he didn't even give you
Speaker 1: time to day to just be honest with you and
Speaker 1: and then ghost you. Screw this guy. This guy sucks.
Speaker 1: We'd have to get dudes in the d M for
Speaker 1: you would be a whole thing. So we took care
Speaker 1: of it already, so we got that connection. Yeah. Well, Riley,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your story. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Once again, everybody listening, Please d m us, email us,
Speaker 1: contact us, texting, you can call Sydney, do whatever you
Speaker 1: need to do to tell us about your sucky dating stories.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be sharing at least one per week. Um,
Speaker 1: we do have a couple of dating terms. I know.
Speaker 1: Once again, we've been doing this every week. So Sydney,
Speaker 1: I think you were on the podcast last week or
Speaker 1: last time we did this as well. We we come
Speaker 1: with dating terms and I looked them up. I find
Speaker 1: out the deafit mission, I asked Dean, I asked Easton, Becky,
Speaker 1: whoever else wants to chime in? Uh to tell ask
Speaker 1: them what they think it means, and then I give
Speaker 1: them the definition afterwards. So do you want to play along?
Speaker 1: I would love to play along? Perfect. So the first
Speaker 1: dating term that we have today kind of sounds disgusting.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. It's called roaching. So what do
Speaker 1: you think roaching means in the dating world? Oh? God? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: actually represent like death and dirty and New York City
Speaker 1: apartments like I had, Uh, roaching, I'm gonna I'll take
Speaker 1: this one while you think and while you ust do
Speaker 1: on it said, it sounds good, So roaching my mind,
Speaker 1: when it comes to roaching is like when we're talking
Speaker 1: about a roach, what are we talking about? We're talking
Speaker 1: about that last little bit of a joint that you
Speaker 1: haven't smoked yet that you can't really you can't really
Speaker 1: hold on to, right, but it's it's hard to hold
Speaker 1: onto it. You can maneuver it proper really, and you
Speaker 1: can get your last little puff before you throw it away.
Speaker 1: So my opinion, roaching is holding on to the last
Speaker 1: little bit of a relationship for dear life, trying to
Speaker 1: get it as much as you can out of it,
Speaker 1: knowing it's on its last leg. M. Interesting with Sydney,
Speaker 1: you got any anything you want to bounce off that.
Speaker 1: Usually I feel like when you see roaches it's a
Speaker 1: sign to get out. Like my last apartment, I started
Speaker 1: getting roaches and I was like, it's time to leave
Speaker 1: New York. So maybe it's signs of needing to leave
Speaker 1: a relationship. I don't. Usually, Yeah, if you see roaches,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of there. So roaching, Uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: I think Mark wants to chime in, Mark, I have
Speaker 1: a guest, Oh, I love it. Please. You know what
Speaker 1: happens when there's a roach and you turn the light
Speaker 1: on it vanishes? I think you figure out something about someone,
Speaker 1: like oh, she found out about the fact that I
Speaker 1: was seeing multiple women or something, and he just goes.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he vanishes. You never see him again. So
Speaker 1: you shining a light on the roach and then the
Speaker 1: roach gets out. Interesting Eastern do you have anything you
Speaker 1: want to jump in here on any ideas about what
Speaker 1: roaching could be. I mean I was going to go
Speaker 1: down the same road as Mark I figured, like because
Speaker 1: I was thinking that too. Um. But but where my
Speaker 1: mind was going is when you turn the light on,
Speaker 1: usually you see a bunch of them. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: when when when like you learn more about this person,
Speaker 1: you're going to find out a bunch of really bad
Speaker 1: They've been hiding a lot of bad things from you,
Speaker 1: And so this could be like a new term for
Speaker 1: skeletons in the closet. Yes, that's what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: Not like they physically lead like they're gonna ghost to you.
Speaker 1: I just think that there's gonna be a bunch of
Speaker 1: like negative stuff that's going to appear interesting. All very
Speaker 1: good guesses, ladies and gentlemen. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to point out to its funny when Easton was was
Speaker 1: talking about how there's a lot of roaches between the
Speaker 1: light on Sydney's like pts. It was so heart attack
Speaker 1: every time I wanted my kitchen. Yeah. So roaching in
Speaker 1: the dating world is what happens when the person you've
Speaker 1: been seeing regularly, usually for a few months, it is
Speaker 1: hiding the fact that they've been dating other people. Mark honestly,
Speaker 1: Mark and Easton pretty nicely done. So the real clincher here, though,
Speaker 1: is when you find out about it and bringing up
Speaker 1: in discussion with them, they claim that they didn't realize
Speaker 1: you were in a monogamous relationship together. The name roaching
Speaker 1: apparently comes from the theory that whenever you see one cockroach,
Speaker 1: there are several more that you are not seeing. So
Speaker 1: while you were dating this one person and there was
Speaker 1: a sense of implied exclusivity, they've been seeing a plethora
Speaker 1: of other people. Nicely done. I think that was like
Speaker 1: a group effort right there. Everybody got a little piece
Speaker 1: of that one, right. I'm I'm the only one clapping,
Speaker 1: so I'm the only one, all right. So we'll do
Speaker 1: one more dating term before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Let's do cookie jarring. What could be cookie jarring in
Speaker 1: the dating world? What could be cookie jarring? Anyone else?
Speaker 1: Anyone you get caught with your fingers in the cookie
Speaker 1: jar It's catching a guy dabbling, catching a guy flirting
Speaker 1: on Instagram, catching a guy just spending time with someone.
Speaker 1: You didn't catch them cheating, but you're catching him kind
Speaker 1: of laying the groundwork, right, Okay, okay, Easton, who has
Speaker 1: cookie jars anymore? I mean, my grandma has a cookie jar.
Speaker 1: I I love cookies, I don't have one. I think
Speaker 1: it's when you catch someone with a much older person
Speaker 1: that's that's far too inappropriate. That's what I think. Not
Speaker 1: if there's anything wrong with that, but it does happen,
Speaker 1: right right, right, okay here. So, so when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, our cookie jars were probably a little different
Speaker 1: than most cookie jars. We would like to throw there's
Speaker 1: kind of like a melting pot of cookies. You know,
Speaker 1: we'd open up a bunch of different cookies and throw
Speaker 1: them on the cookie jar, and you kind of like
Speaker 1: reach in whatever cookie you pulled out. It's the cookie
Speaker 1: you're gonna eat, you know, be oreos, chips, ahoy l fudges,
Speaker 1: those types of things. Um So, in my opinion, cookie
Speaker 1: jarring is and you you never look in the cookie jar.
Speaker 1: When you look, you know, you kind of just pick
Speaker 1: your fingers through the through the lid and then down
Speaker 1: the cook jar and pick up cookie out. And so
Speaker 1: that's what it is. If you get caught cookie jarring,
Speaker 1: you're getting caught kind of like blindly deciding and picking
Speaker 1: who you're going to go on a date with or
Speaker 1: talk to you that night. Interesting. It sounds kind of
Speaker 1: sexual to me. Um, when I think of cookie, I
Speaker 1: think of like lady parts, So um, something sexual involving.
Speaker 1: Is there a specific when it comes time? No? Um,
Speaker 1: it just reminds me of just like something hansy cop
Speaker 1: and a feel Maybe something like that, I'm not sure sweet.
Speaker 1: Speaking of sweet uh, Dean, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: reminding me that el Fudge cookies exist, because I haven't
Speaker 1: had one of those in like ten years, and it's
Speaker 1: been an awful ten years. And you're good man back,
Speaker 1: come on, damn, those are so good, so good the
Speaker 1: best they melt in your mouth. Cookie jarring the reverse
Speaker 1: form of benching. So if you've been seeing someone and
Speaker 1: have yet to dtr A k A to find the relationship,
Speaker 1: and then you find out that they've been seeing someone
Speaker 1: else behind your back, you have been cookie jarred. That
Speaker 1: is keeping you handy in case their other person doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. So that's cookie jar And like you guys said,
Speaker 1: so like you know they have some people on the
Speaker 1: back burner. You know, you you're with someone you having
Speaker 1: to find the relationship, and then you find out that
Speaker 1: person is seeing other people as well. But there's a
Speaker 1: bunch of you in the jar, and there's many cookies
Speaker 1: in the jar. Yeah. The fact that this is so common,
Speaker 1: that these terms exist is very upsetting to me. It's
Speaker 1: quite sad. I don't love that. Okay, I've got a
Speaker 1: pseudo relationship update. I was I guess you could share
Speaker 1: that might Oh my god. Yeah, you went to Klin's
Speaker 1: family for Thanksgiving conversation That actually wasn't the conversation starter
Speaker 1: that I was originally thinking of. Kaylin and I bought
Speaker 1: a house together where Yeah. Well, I'm not gonna share
Speaker 1: where it is yet because we still have yet to
Speaker 1: actually get qualified for our loan. Um, what time zone
Speaker 1: is it in? Yeah? I think it's in the Pacific
Speaker 1: time zone. Yeah, so it's not too far. It's driving
Speaker 1: distance from Los Angeles. You have somewhere to park your
Speaker 1: van now permanently. Yeah, I've got a two car garage.
Speaker 1: I've got a nice big driveway that's right now. Dean's
Speaker 1: gonna park his van and Kaylin's driveway. Yeah well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's been parked in her driveway for a
Speaker 1: little bit now, especially you know with COVID and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But yeah, that's my big news
Speaker 1: to share. We're buying a house together. Uh. We're also
Speaker 1: renting a house together too, so we're moving into with
Speaker 1: each other two times over. Um, so we're gonna be
Speaker 1: homeowners and home leasers at the same time, which is
Speaker 1: just the most cost efficient thing we could have possibly
Speaker 1: thought of. Dude, that's awesome. Congratulations. Yeah, thanks, thanks, So
Speaker 1: I'll keep you guys posted in the in the home
Speaker 1: uh approval process, because like I said, we bought the house,
Speaker 1: they've given us the house, but we still have to
Speaker 1: get a proof of our loans first, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: take some time. So is it is it turnkey or
Speaker 1: is it a fixer upper two turn key? So it's
Speaker 1: under construction. It's not even finished yet, but once it's finished,
Speaker 1: it'll be ready to live in. It'll be finish in April. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're pretty stoked where you know where it's. It's a
Speaker 1: big step. I've never thought I never thought i'd be
Speaker 1: a homeowner, so pretty excited. Honestly, that's awesome, man. Thanks,
Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, You're you're going to say something before we left, Well,
Speaker 1: Becky has something to show off, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if she wants to do it. I think I was
Speaker 1: told she doesn't want to do it, but I feel
Speaker 1: like she should do it. I'll do it, Okay. Is
Speaker 1: it an engagement ring? Engagement ring as in California? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you like an engagement ring, it's out to Mario.
Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? How are you man? Where are you guys?
Speaker 1: Right now, we're in l A. We didn't go to
Speaker 1: New York after all, it's not safe enough to be client. Nice. Nice,
Speaker 1: It's so good to see you. This is it's like
Speaker 1: a This is like our Thanksgiving. It's like we're all
Speaker 1: coming together, turning our cameras on and saying hi. Worlds
Speaker 1: are colliding. This is great for the first time we
Speaker 1: get to see you guys together to This is my
Speaker 1: first first frame of you guys in the same one,
Speaker 1: So it's nice. How does it look? How does the frame? Oh?
Speaker 1: You guys look so good. You guys are the most
Speaker 1: attractive couple I've ever seen. I feel like a proud parent. Sydney.
Speaker 1: We actually like met in the d M S as well.
Speaker 1: It works right, Yeah, and we talked for like a
Speaker 1: month before we actually met in person. Yeah, I am
Speaker 1: a big component of it. I think it. I think
Speaker 1: is the best way to date these days because you
Speaker 1: really get to know someone and you can trust before
Speaker 1: you get to meet them in person. Yeah, he heard
Speaker 1: me on help I sec at dating. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's a suck suck army guy. He is. Now what
Speaker 1: we do, Sidney, We bring people together, we form relationships
Speaker 1: people together. Tomorrow if we ever see you on Dudes
Speaker 1: in the d M though, oh man, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: was gonna break not. I like it. Well, Becky, you
Speaker 1: are certainly glowing right now. So I'm happy that Tomarrio
Speaker 1: is out there in Cali right now. You guys have fun,
Speaker 1: enjoy yourselves. Uh, don't don't do anything I wouldn't do,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much nothing because I'm very boring. Um
Speaker 1: see you guys, all right, Well, thank you guys for
Speaker 1: joining us. Big thank you to Sydney Lutwaco. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna keep saying your last name because when you know
Speaker 1: a word, it's just fun to say. You know, when
Speaker 1: you know what, when you know the answers to the test,
Speaker 1: you want to take the test kind of thing. Um,
Speaker 1: big thank you to Sidney Lutuwaco. Big thank you to Jared.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say his last name because I always
Speaker 1: go back and forth if it's Haben or High Bond,
Speaker 1: I don't really know. Keep Mark Easton, Becky DeMar. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, and of course Paige, we'll in be sure
Speaker 1: to follow her dudes in the d M or at page.
Speaker 1: Will in be sure tune in next week where maybe
Speaker 1: we suck just a little bit less. Follow help by
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