WEBVTT - Lost in the DMs 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.280 Hell I Suck at Dating with de Nungler and Dared 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:10.520 Haven and I heard radio podcast what is going on? 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:13.480 Sucky daters? Welcome to an all new episode of Help 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.880 I Suck At Dating? And Boy, oh boy, do we 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.959 have a special episode for you today. I know I 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.160 say that every week, but this time I actually mean it. Uh. 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:26.560 We have the long standing friendship and co hoster ship, 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.920 the Lovely Sydney Lutwaco. I got the name right this time. 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.320 I'm not gonna ask you if I got it right, 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.800 because I freaking know I nailed at that time. She's 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:36.279 gonna be co hosting with us. Of course, Jared is 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.680 uh in you know the quote unquote virtual studio as well. 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.720 We are going to have a page Woolen on later on. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.920 Who is an Instagram model who slides into d m 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.400 s of boys with girlfriends and she tries to bust 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.560 them for the sake of their girlfriend's sanity. Um, that's 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.920 all coming later. But first, Sydney, it's been a while 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.560 since we talked to you, So phillis in we last 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.400 we heard from you. You were correct me if I'm wrong, 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:04.679 I know you and the boyfriend were quarantining together somewhere, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:06.560 but it was still pretty new, right, so kind of 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.160 what's the development since the last time we talked. So 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.200 I had moved out of my l a apartment. I 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.720 thought it would be temporarily last time that we spoke 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:20.240 because COVID and things like shutting down and my least 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.840 being up. So I was like, Okay, I'll just move 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.440 over everything to his house temporarily. We'll just figure it out. 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.760 But um, it's what months now later and I'm still here. Um. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.320 So now we're in this domestic partnership thing and we're 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.160 not married, but we're living together very permanently. So yeah, 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.640 it's going well. And I'm in Ohio. Who know I think. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.480 I think this sentence we're not married, but lends the 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.600 idea that eventually you will be married. Is that true? 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.760 I hope So at this point, because it's going well, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.200 I was looking at like health insurance, and technically, in 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.360 like health insurance terms, we are a domestic partnership, so 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.920 we could I could go on his health insurance if 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.240 I wanted to. Um, but he didn't love that idea. 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.120 What are the qualifications for a domestic partnership? I think 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.440 you have to be living together for a certain amount 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.320 of months and be like sharing resources and you know, 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.639 paying for rent and things like that. So I think technically, 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.160 on paper we could be I could be on his insurance. Um. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.360 I didn't look into it any further because he was like, UM, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.400 I don't know if we shouldn't be doing all that, 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:23.440 but that's good to know. That means I can jump. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.359 That means I can jump on Kalin's health insurance plans. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:30.120 Saved myself a couple of Yeah, Jackpot, so you're and 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.520 you're in Ohio? You said, right, Yeah, I'm in Ohio, 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.079 which is interesting for me because I was living in 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.240 New York City for ten years, so super into the 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.720 city life. And then I was in l a for 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:40.880 like a few months, and now I'm in like rural, 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:45.080 rural Ohio. So um, it's definitely different life. But what 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.960 do we think? Do we like it? What do you 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.120 like it? Um? Well, when I was like go getter, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.520 like auditioning, doing that whole thing, like the city made sense. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.720 But now that I'm like twenty nine, I'm getting a 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:00.800 little older. It's kind of I'm like, oh, you're on 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.079 the back nine, I know, but I feel like, I, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.440 you know, I'm getting close to thirty, Like it just 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.760 feels nice to kind of relax, not saying that this 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:09.720 is going to be like my permanent situation, but I 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.480 feel like before I was like in the city, always working, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.080 like always hustling, always doing so much, and now just 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.920 to kind of take this like slow down in this 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.320 break and not focus on so much like work and hustling, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.919 and focusing on like my relationship and like this romantic 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.440 part of my life. It's been kind of nice. Mary, 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.240 I do well. I always said, like I said this before. 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.720 I know my mom was like waiting for that to 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.160 happen any day now. But um, oh you think he'll 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.720 propose soon? No, no, no, no no, I'm just like 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.360 she's just very excited about things. And this is my 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:47.200 first relationship, so she you know, moms just want you 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.200 to be like happy and like set and good. So 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.720 she she's down for that. But I mean things are 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.480 going really well. We're at a good pace. There's no 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.400 pressure on it. I always did say I would I 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.080 would be one and done, And I think that's why 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.280 I waited to be in a relationship for so long, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.480 because I knew that whoever I wanted to end up 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:06.040 with would be pretty serious because I didn't want to 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.120 do a lot of different relationships because I think I 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.080 was just protecting myself in the back of my head, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.840 because I I, even though I come off really strong 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.680 and like confident in all that stuff, like I'm sensitive 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.760 in that way where I I don't think I could 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.360 handle a lot of devastating relationships. So I kind of 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.760 like put the walls up until I was ready to 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.200 like let them down. And I finally started letting them 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.400 down and it's going well. So yeah, I would never 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.360 want to just jump into something that wasn't going to 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.479 be serious one day. So hopefully we get there. But 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.520 have you noticed like the honeymoon phase at all wearing 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.160 off or we're living together now, the phase kind of 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.159 shuts off pretty quickly. We've had you guys have smelled 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.560 each other's poop. Is that what you're telling us. I'm 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.960 pretty open with all those things. So yeah, I mean, 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.560 you're just you're on each other. So it is an 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.960 adjustment and we are a newer relationship. But I think 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.760 because of the way that we met and how we 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.359 built this connection before we ever were in person with 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.480 each other, we were constantly on the phone, We talked 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.479 on FaceTime for three months, so we were in a 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.720 pretty solid place before we had even met um because 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.320 we were doing all this during the pandemics, so we 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.159 had to be really serious about whether this was going 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.960 to be something that we saw ourselves, you know, doing, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.279 because we were in different states and you know, COVID 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.159 restrictions and like being safe and all that stuff. So 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:28.279 we had that, you know, agreements kind of beforehand, and 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.360 then when we met in person it kind of solidified that. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.039 So I think, yeah, we were much further along. But 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.880 now that we're like living together and all my stuff 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.440 is here, it definitely the honeymoon phase ends a little bit, 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.880 but I mean it's still fun and we're still learning 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.680 about each other and like learning about ourselves at the 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:47.120 same time, because it's you learn a lot in relationship 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.120 about like because they're like mirrors for who you are 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:51.680 and like what you want to work on, what you 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.320 need to work on to make this relationship successful. So 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.000 it is work, but it's all still fun because he's 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.240 like my best friend and oh so sweet here. When 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.200 are we going to get him as a guest? I know, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.920 I mean he's another room and come in. He's been 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:08.840 on my podcast. He's actually very interesting. Um guy, he's 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.440 very interesting a lot. Yeah, yeah, you said he overcame 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.640 some sort of uh he couldn't walk or something like 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.360 that when he was He broke his neck in college 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.360 and he was supposed to never walk again, and the 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.040 practors were like, they did surgery on him and they 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.120 were like, yeah, they're he's never going to walk in again, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.640 Start building ramps, start getting everything prepared in the house 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.640 to his family, and then two or three days later 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.800 he started getting sensation back, and the doctors like, yeah, 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.960 but that's not that's not real. That's just like you know, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:43.800 phantom muscles moving, that's not him. And then he was like, no, 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.919 that's that's my body doing that. So then eventually he 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.000 started to be able to get sensation back, and then 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.960 he had to relearn how to walk. But he was 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.640 supposed to never walk again, but it was five days 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:57.240 later he was out of the hospital and walking, so 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:02.359 kind of insane. So long term, are you guys going 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.359 to walk out of Ohio and move back to l A, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.920 New York. I mean, you know, you said you like 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.160 Ohio now, but is he going to be able to 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.480 see himself maybe moving to a city at some point. Yeah, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.440 so he has been. He's met my family a few times. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.440 We were just at Thanksgiving together. He he loves Virginia too, 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.800 and um, I'm from Virginia Beach. That's like my hometown. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.679 So eventually I would like to be closer to my family. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.720 Right now, we're like ten hours away. So we've talked 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.840 about it, the conversations there. I think it just kind 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.480 of we're gonna take it day by day. Um, but 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.880 it's interesting. Like I was talking to Kendall long earlier 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.000 about her and Joe and how like the fact that 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.760 he wanted to stay in Chicago and she wanted to 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:39.960 stay in like kind of ultimately what led to them 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.080 breaking up. So that kind of freaks me out a 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.000 little bit. But for now it's working. I just think 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.120 with when something's right, you kind of and you know 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.920 that you wanted to be your future that you kind 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.239 of make sacrifices. Are you kind of you know, agree 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:54.680 on or you're supposed to be end up as a 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.120 couple instead of individually. So I don't know, we'll see 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.560 what happens, but for now, So you guys went to 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.280 Virginia for Thanksgiving, Yes to see your family. What are 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:04.720 you gonna do for Christmas? Are you gonna go see 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.440 guy family? Um? So I see his famil all the time. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.840 But yeah, we're going to spend Christmas here and then 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.440 we'll probably go see my family at some point around Christmas. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.080 Was this the first time you ever brought a guy 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.040 home for the holidays? Obviously? Right? Yeah, for sure that, Like, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:23.160 I mean, it was weird at first, and especially because 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:24.720 you have to do the thing where like do we 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.680 sleep in the same bed? Do we sleep in separate rooms? Like? 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:28.960 How do we do that? And my I mean, my 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.800 mom was good about it. She let us stay in 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.280 the same room. It was interesting, but because we're already 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.480 living together here, it just kind of made sense. It 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.440 was like okay and not weird. The fact that I 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.040 was bringing someone home and we were staying in the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.600 same bed. In the way I had to sleep in 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.400 a separate bedroom than Ashley when staying was until we 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.400 were married, even though we lived together in Los Angeles, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.760 anytime we came here, I mean repect that. I respected 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.040 it too, even when you were married. Uh no, no, no, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.079 before we got married. Okay, Okay, obviously we sleep in 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.160 the same bedroom now because we quarantine here for I mean, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.320 we're quarantined here for three months. Even though it would 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:03.640 have been quite lovely to have my own bed for 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:07.080 three months, I digress. Um, now we can, but we 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.920 had to wait. Even when we were engaged in living 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.640 together in Los Angeles, anytime we visited here, we were 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.440 on separate floors. I mean she was on yep, I 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.040 was in I was in the basement. I've always been 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.520 pretty strict about that too. Now it's a little bit different. 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.120 But before, if I would ever go visit like a 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:25.640 girlfriend's family, I would always be like, I'm sleeping on 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:27.440 the cash. Like, even if you wanted me to sleep 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:28.560 in the same room as you, I don't. I just 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.680 don't think it's really appropriate, especially like at your parents 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.319 house or something, you know what I mean. I mean 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.600 I offered and then they were fine with it. But before, 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.760 like my brother would have girlfriends and he one of 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.400 them one on vacation with us to Hawaii, and I 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.520 had to sleep with her instead of him sleeping with 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.679 the girlfriend. So I was I was kissed because I 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:45.920 was like, you know, what's screw it, let them sleep 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:48.000 together because I want my own bed. So they in 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.200 the past I think again because I'm now older and 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.319 because we already are living together. It just it was fine, um, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.640 but it was interesting. Like one of the days, uh, Nick, 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.760 my boyfriend went um golfing like my dad and my 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.959 brother all day long without me. So like they did 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.040 that whole thing, and I was super nervous about it 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.199 because I like couldn't help, you know, have everyone get along. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.840 But it seemed like they did fine. Dolphin is the 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:15.680 ultimate guy bond, Like there's nothing that just brings men 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.720 together more than a nice eighteen hole. And Jared refuses 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.360 to golf with me. Dude, I always want to golf 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.680 with you. You're the one. You were in Virginia for 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.640 Thanksgiving and I was like, oh, let's go golf and 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.440 You're like, well, I'm leaving the day after and it's like, 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:31.559 for what, just stay? I know, I know, but you 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.360 are always golfing and Tanner leaving me out. Anyways, said, 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.520 do you feel any pressure with Christmas right around the 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.760 corner as far as just like you know, if you 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:43.640 make getting married gifts first Christmas with a boyfriend. I mean, 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.960 I don't know, you know, it's a lot because like you, 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.520 essentially I have to get gifts for his whole family now, 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.320 and he has a large family, so I'm like, I 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.439 didn't budget enough for this, you know, things that you 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.520 don't think about like that. But we're in a pandemic. Okay, 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.800 everybody's getting a box of junior mids exactly, so there's 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.199 things like that. But I mean, I spend so much 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.320 time around his family it's kind of chill. I don't know. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.400 We had a really steamless transition into this relationship, so 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.400 I'm kind of like waiting for the other shooter drop 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.360 but it hasn't and it seems to be going well. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.360 But I think it's just because we both were in 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:19.720 that place in our lives too. I want to make 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.040 a seamless transition here, not to change gears or anything, 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.720 but I do want to talk about how you and 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.040 Becca were on tatious episode of the Bachelorette just recently, right, 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.000 we were, yeah, last week, So full disclosure, I haven't 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.360 really been watching um Caitlan tries to get me to 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.360 watch with her. I just I just I just can't. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.320 I don't know why. Maybe it's because I've been through 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.360 you know, obviously we've all been through the process, but 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:43.400 I was never really a fan before, and I just 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.320 it kind of holds curious to tell me about your 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.959 experience going back, but obviously not as a contestant this time, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.800 more so as like a sounding board, um and as 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:52.880 a friend, right, so tell us about it. I like 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.720 that better because it wasn't as dramatic for me. I 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.640 just got to be supportive to Tasia. I know, Jared, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.760 you just did it too, but yeah, I had I 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.040 felt like I had control over the situation. I knew 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:03.800 the script, I knew who it was, I knew what 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.280 the date was like. It was a much better setting 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:07.640 for me. I feel like for anyone it would have 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.480 been better. Um, but it was fun. And like Tasha, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.680 I feel is should have been the bachelorette years ago. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.679 Like she's an incredible person. She's like celebrities. She just 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:20.240 like gives that like energy off. She can control a room, 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.160 and I think like this was absolutely where she should 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.280 have been. And I was so excited as her friend 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.080 to get to witness her do that because she just 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:30.920 looks so natural and the guys loved her that everyone 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.840 on the show like loved her and just thought that 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.520 she was like this breath of fresh air. W she 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.800 is so it's really cool as her friend to see 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.720 and for me to be able to support her and 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.880 help her find a guy that's going to be worthy 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.880 of her was really exciting for me, and I got 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.520 to see like in behind the scenes. They let me 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.480 into the Bachelorette bubble, which was cool. Um, it was 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.680 interesting having a quarantine for that because I was nervous 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.000 flying there and maybe catching COVID somehow and then having 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.160 to stay in the hotel for like months would have sucked. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.720 So luckily that didn't happen. Did you did you tell Nick? 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.160 Like he could have? Like? Where? Did it? Pretty funny? Like, Hey, Nick, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.720 I'm let me go on the Bachelorette. I'll see you later, 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.720 you know what I mean. Yeah. I actually didn't do 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.520 a good job of like breaking the news to him 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.280 because I was staying here and this was before I 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.800 was living here, and I came home from like being 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.319 with a friend one day and I was like, um, so, anyways, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.719 the Bachelor called me and so one of the producers 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:23.640 wanted me to come on the show and he was 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.880 like wait, what, Like what do you mean. I was like, oh, wait, 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.480 I'm helping Tasha or whoever. The bachelorette was at the time, 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.680 because I didn't actually know it was Tasha. I'm helping 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.880 the bachelorette with the date, and my my friend's gonna 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.679 be there. It'll be fine, Like I'm not dating anyone. 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.240 I'm just going to help them coming back, Okay, Like 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.120 that's fine. But we're like, look, he's sort of on 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.760 the topic which guys were your favorite? And obviously you're 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.600 never gonna be on Paradise again. But if you were 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.400 to go on Paradise again, which one of them would 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.199 you be once interested in? Okay, So on my date, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.320 I think it was like Bennett, Blake Easy, I'm trying 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:03.120 to Riley, uh, Zack and Anny Kenny. Who's Kenny? Ye 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.880 Kenny Kenny? Okay, yes, So it was like that group, 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.079 and out of them, I thought she was like very 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.360 very much by being with Zach. She wanted us to 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:12.880 kind of push Riley out of his shell. I remember, 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:16.640 and that I think that group she was I didn't 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.280 know as well, it seemed to me and Becca, so 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.000 she wanted to kind of get to know them better. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.440 And I think that was the group that was a 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.360 little bit more reserved or like holding back a little 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.800 bit with her, so we had to push them, which 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:29.960 is why we made them do ridiculous things like you know, 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.200 proposed to her while after eating a pepper and drinking 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.000 smoothies man out of bugs and things like that. So 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.320 that was super fun to torture men. Um. Yeah, always 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.680 a good time torturing guys. As far as like who 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.520 I like for her out of everyone, I really like Ben. 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.640 I think that he's finally opening up, which is really 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.760 cool to see. And I think that he's definitely gonna 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.520 be a front runner. It's random that Spencer was her 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.920 what is it first impression Rose, And no, we don't 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.120 know him at all anymore. That's interesting. Um, But I 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.320 also really like Ivan, so I feel like and I've 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.520 been for me or the front runners right now, I've 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:06.720 been watching on in off Tasia. First of all, like 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.080 you said, made for this role, she's amazing. And then 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.040 also what you said about it's way better being a 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:17.680 guest host than a contestant, Oh my god, it's a 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:22.240 thousand times better. Oh it's the freaking best. It actually 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.080 going back, and I'm sure you felt similar. I felt 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.560 so grateful that I don't have to do it again. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.360 Not to say that I don't love the show. Not 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.400 to say that I didn't love going through the process 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.040 of the show. I really did. It was amazing meeting everybody. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.520 I met my wife through it. But my god, the 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.560 idea of going back and having to do it all 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:43.800 over again and just finding the energy to do it again, 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.200 the energy, like even for the one day of filming, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.080 I was like, oh my god, I'm exhausted. I don't 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.000 know how you're staying up and doing this, Tasha. It's 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.840 insane to think about like the hours it takes to 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.680 find and then trying to fight for the lead, and 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.000 then like fight for time and then try to stay 0:15:58.000 --> 0:16:00.440 out of the drama and not be concerned with other testints. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.440 Oh no, no way. What did you think? Because I 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:06.440 saw this last week when the guys were on the 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.400 group day and they were all talking about vulnerability insecurities, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.800 and it was a really I saw it and it 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:19.320 was one of my honestly favorite uh scenes from any 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.960 Bachelor season. It was powerful and it was it just 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.000 hit me. And and then Ben did something that was 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:30.840 very interesting where he wanted to show his vulnerability not 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:35.160 by his words but by his physical stature, and he 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.880 took his clothes off in frontation the other guys. So 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.360 what did you think about that? Yeah, I want to 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.480 say I did love the vulnerability aspect. I feel like 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.200 you only get to see that on one on one day. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.240 It's usually on the show, and like that's the time 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.200 that they tell their secret or their thing. But I 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.720 felt like it was really cool and awesome to see 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.680 all of every one of their sides of that. I mean, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.360 who doesn't want to see men naked? But like I don't. 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.360 I didn't feel that was being vulnerable. I feel like 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.640 maybe I don't know that was interesting. I did like 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.280 that he was vulnerable later in the date, but I 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.080 thought that was it was a bold choice, so it 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.600 makes you stand out. Um. I just don't know that 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.800 that would have worked for every single guy there necessarily, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.480 But um, I did appreciate him being so open later 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.000 on in the date. If Ben was trying to date me, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.640 I wouldn't have liked it. Now, Tassia seemed emotionally moved 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.120 by it, which to each their own, but for me, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.480 if you're not if you're thinking about entering a relationship 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.439 with someone and they are unable to talk about their 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.040 vulnerabilities and for some reason the only way they can 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:44.240 express their vulnerabilities is by getting naked. I don't know. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:45.919 That's something we gotta work on because we've got a 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.520 communication is most important part in a relationship, and so 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.840 we have to talk things through. You know, we can't 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.639 always just take our clothes off. Yeah, you can't just 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:59.080 get naked every time it gets hard, right pun intended? Yeah, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.800 but I agree, like there could have been. He has 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.600 so much more to share. I feel like you can 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.720 you can sense that from him. But for whatever is that, 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.160 he's not sharing any of it early like he would 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.159 went up a little bit this last episode, but I 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.359 feel like he needs to really pick it up because 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.800 he's gonna, you know, fall behind if he's not being 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:16.479 so open like a lot of the other guys are 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.480 being like Ivan and all the other ones on that date. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.119 So I agree, all right, said, well we're gonna take 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.040 a quick break. Um, thank you for your insight. Onto 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:29.320 tacious season of The Bachelorette. But I'm excited for this 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.280 next bit because we have Paige Woolen, who is an 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:37.320 Instagram smoke show. It's funny we say that because of 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:41.639 the Bachelorette Instagram smoke show that slides into guys d 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.199