WEBVTT - Mike Madrid, Mike Zamore & Haddy Gassama 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.160 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.480 today's best minds, and Troy Jackson has officially been fit 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.760 to challenge Senator Susan Collins in the great state of Maine. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.840 We have such a fantastic show for you today. The 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:24.960 Latino Votes podcast host Mike Madrid talk to us about 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.440 how MAGA is fracturing and how Latino voters are the 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.640 new swing voters. Then we'll talk to the acl use 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:39.560 Mike Zamore and Hattie Gassima about ICE's abuses inside New 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.960 Jersey's Delaney Hall and other detention centers. But first the news. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.360 So, Maali, for some reason, we still have a White 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:51.320 House Correspondence Dinner, and despite it being an absolute failure 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.959 of an event as evidence by Friday Night's proceedings, are 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.400 you just still crying in your pillow that you didn't 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:58.000 get to attend? 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.280 So I have always been like a little bit of 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.040 a contrarian on the White House Correspondence Dinner. Basically since 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:09.440 Trump has been president since twenty sixteen, there's been a 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.160 feeling and it's grown over the last decade that the 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:18.600 White House Correspondents Association. Well, they do good work, right, 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:24.240 They do scholarships for students, they do public outreach. They 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.039 also are not doing themselves or any of us any 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.920 favors with the stupid dinner. So the point of the 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:34.080 dinner is, or at least the historic point of the 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.679 dinner was to raise money for scholarships, to highlight these 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:42.000 scholar students, and to focus on the job of the 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.679 White House correspondents. Over the years, and the New York 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.840 Times haven't been allowing their people to attend for like 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.160 ten years. I mean, you can go to cover, but 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.960 you know, they don't buy tables or anything. Basically, the 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:59.200 event has gotten more and more unpalatable. Now few thoughts 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.960 on the White House correspondence before we get into Donald 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.520 What Donald Trump did which everyone could have seen coming 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.560 a million miles away, which is he gave a really 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:13.520 really hostile speech that was embarrassing and I listened to 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.720 some of it. I mean, it's really long, and in 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.600 it he's just he's just mean and gross and mean 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:26.119 to Caitlin Collins. But part of why it is, part 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.680 of why I think it should be ended, is because 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:33.560 it's not Look, when people report they have to have sources, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.480 and some of those sources are going to be in 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.400 the White House, whether or not the White House is 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.720 filled with or not, You're going to have to talk 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.840 to those people if you're going to report on them. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.480 But that's just true. I mean, we may not like it, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.280 but it's true. So some of the optics coming out 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.640 of that dinner, like Stephen Miller yucking it up with 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.480 real reporters, that stuff, it just looks really the optics 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.200 of it are horrendous. And then the other thing is 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.480 that just the idea of this kind of like these 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.520 cabinet members were clearly really I mean, some of them 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.600 are doing some really sketchy stuff, and to have them 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.480 sitting with the journalists who cover them and then having Trump, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.400 it's just so bad. This is my personal Piccadillo. I 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:24.480 feel that the White House Press Association had more power 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.040 than a thought and should have when Donald Trump kicked 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:32.200 out the AP for not calling the Gulf of Mexico 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.800 the Gulf of America, which was stupid, but it was 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.960 a power grab, and what the White House Correspondence Association 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:41.240 should have done was been like, Okay, we're done, we're out, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.640 because this administration needs the media just as much as 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.800 the media needs to cover this administration. But they didn't 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.080 do that, and so what happened was they ended up 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.400 in this situation where they've just had the White House 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.120 has taken almost all their power away. They decide who 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.120 was in the press pool, things that historically were not true. 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:02.880 They kicked out all the press pool at the Pentagon, 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.640 Like they've just done a lot of stuff that has 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:10.280 really limited press access, and all the while they've framed 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.680 it as if the press was somehow the bad guys. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.040 I mean, like my husband don't necessarily like straight reporting, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.360 feel that a lot of times straight reporters give this 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.160 administration the benefit of the doubt when they shouldn't. But 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.960 it doesn't matter. Like the only way you're going to 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.320 be able to hold power to account is with straight reporting. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.680 And there's a reason that these people are so obsessed 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.200 with ending the media, and it's because of things like this, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.800 and like that is why the White House correspondence dinner 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.440 is just so wrong for this moment, Like it just 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.360 is wrong for this moment. You have people who are 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.960 losing their lives that protests to have a genteel little 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.479 dinner party with people like Stephen Miller, it's the wrong 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:55.200 moment for this. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:59.920 So, speaking of wrong moments, wrong person for the job, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.400 We've been long complaining about Ken Martin, the head of 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.800 the DNC, and it seems like this morning I woke 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:09.760 up to d day for his reputation and people being 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.560 chill about him staying on as head of the DNC. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.680 You know Adam Gentilsen, who has been on this podcast, 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:22.240 but who can be you know, complicated and is I 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.560 think a very good tweet about this where he said, 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.039 you know, like, this is it. This is the end 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.039 of Ken Martin's career. Like you like it, you don't 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.240 like it. He's not going to be able to like 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:37.240 because part of this job is just being able to 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.599 fake it till you make it right, to raise the 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:44.279 money that you need in order to get this stuff done. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.640 And he I just think he's run out of lock here. 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.279 But here's what I would say about Ken Martin. This 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.040 was always going to be a hard job, right the Well, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.000 let's just go back to what is the head of 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.880 the DNC supposed to do? Raise for state parties. And 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.000 by the way, one of the things that I do 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.000 think Ken Martin did which was good, which was in 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.440 this Times article was he gave an extra one hundred 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:13.800 thousand dollars to Mississippi, and Mississippi was able to elect 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:18.560 another state ledge and break a Republican supermajority. So that 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.279 was good. But you know, you're going to need someone 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.200 who has the faith of the donor class so you 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.359 can raise some money, and Ken Martin clearly doesn't have that, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.919 and that is why this is probably the moment for 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.400 him to resign. Look, it is very I think he's 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.480 having a very tough time. And I understand that one 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.760 of the nice things about Democrats is that they are 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.800 very nice to each other. But I think at this 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:48.000 moment it certainly seems like the floor has fallen out 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.320 from under him. And again, so basically here's the story. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.400 He may have thrown a phone at an underling. It's 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.040 not entirely sure if he threw it at a junior 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:03.000 aid or if it scared the junior aid, or if 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.440 he threw it at the desk, But whatever it is, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.120 he had to go to HR for it. And then 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:13.440 Trump has uh the RNC has raised million dollars and 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.800 Ken Martin has raised Right now he has the DNC 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:24.360 is two million dollars in debt, which is pretty unfucking 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:28.240 believable and so and he also at the last DNC 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.679 meeting he made people sign NDA's which is a sign 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.520 that he's not feeling very confident, which is which we'll 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.240 transmit to donors. He also spent seven point I think 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.880 it was seven point eight million dollars to buy Harris's 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.280 mailing list, which was a way of settling her the 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.160 case debts, which I guess is fine but also pretty 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.560 seems a little bit shortsighted. He also did put the 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:59.600 DNC up for collateral for loans, which seems kind of bad, 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.840 though have done that historically. But then the other thing 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.920 he did which a lot of people are upset about, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:09.000 was that he spent about a million dollars eight hundred 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:16.280 and forty thousand dollars on fundraising committee and money to Guam, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:21.640 Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa, places that do 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:26.600 not elect a president or even members who have full 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.160 voting privileges. This is not a good moment for Ken 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:31.920 Martin and his time for him to resign. 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.360 Yeah, I think about a lot that when us an 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.480 entrepreneurs talk that the heads of organizations really, what most 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.160 people don't see is that there's just supposed to be 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.440 a confidence man who makes it easy to raise funds 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.439 from investors. This has lost all confidence. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.800 Right, either you can raise money or you can do media, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.559 which Ben Wicker can do both. You know, it's funny 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.160 because when this happened, I was very like, I was like, Wow, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.680 Ben Wickler's an outsider. Ken Martin's an insider. Maybe it's 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.080 better have an insider who knows. I don't want to 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.840 be you know what, who even knows. Maybe these state 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:08.280 party chairs know what they're doing. No, Ben Wigo would 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.679 have been better, and Ben Wicco could get in there now, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.360 and it needs to happen. And you know, I know 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.520 there are people who know this podcasts, who are involved 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.520 in the DMC. It's like, it's time guys like this 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.439 is you can be nice and then you have you know, 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.880 if this is really about American democracy, which a lot 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.840 of us absolutely believe it is, you got to get 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:31.000 get going here. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.000 Let's go back to another horrible thing that happened, the 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.760 One Big Beautiful Bill. Apparently more than one million children 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.280 whilst to access to food benefits after it passed. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.760 So we always knew this was coming because we are 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.640 because we read a lot of We read a lot 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.400 of this stuff and we read the bell right or 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.439 we read enough of it to know what was going on. 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.400 The goal of this was always to put new requirements 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:02.960 on Medicare Medicaid SNAP, and children on SNAP was always 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.199 going to be part of this. So this analysis finds 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:11.080 that four million Americans lost SNAP benefits. That's four million 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.800 from July twenty twenty five to March twenty twenty six. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.400 Like that is Doge in a nutshell. And this is 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.280 because of One Beautiful Bill. So they were removed from SNAP. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:26.520 And part of how they were removed is they've tightened 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.479 the eligibility rules for food assistance. They've increased screening requirements. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.600 So four hundred and fifty thousand Arizonas people who live 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.520 in Arizona have come off SNAP. And they haven't come 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:44.319 off SNAP because things are cheaper. They've come off SNAP 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.040 because the state has made it and not the state. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.920 The Trump administration, the One big Beautiful Bill has made 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.160 it so they can't stay on. Children make up a 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:58.240 significant portion of those losing benefits worth more than one million. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:04.680 Children across nine in states no longer receive SNAP. In Louisiana, 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.640 one in four children receiving SNAP lost benefits. In Massachusetts 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.960 and Texas, one fifth of children enrolled in the program 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.720 were removed. This is the legacy of Elon Musk, right, 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:21.080 This is the legacy of Doge and Donald Trump. This 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:25.080 is the this is the Big Beautiful Bill. This is 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.800 tax cuts for people like Howard Lutnek. This is the 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:35.920 America that Trump has ushered in. So if you think 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.920 about a million hungry children, that's I mean it is. 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:46.320 It's just like, just imagine these SNAP kids are not 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.160 It's not like their parents are doing great. It's like 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.120 their parents are barely hanging on and now they do 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:57.400 not have food snamps to buy food so they can eat. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:03.439 And in a very inflationary environment where the economy is 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.960 bad for workers, where wages are not keeping up with inflation, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.560 where things are getting more and more expensive, or gas 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.040 is more expensive, this is what the Big Beautiful Bill 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:18.600 has wrought. This is what Elon Musk, trying to and fraud, 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:23.720 waste and abuse. The biggest beneficiary of government subsidy is 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.240 Elon Musk, has wrought this. 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.600 So the US Appeals Court has ruled Trump cannot implement 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.040 mail and voting bends. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.720 So you know why this is important is because it's 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.360 just yet another time where this administration just keeps losing 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:44.600 in court, and this is one. So the federal appeals 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.600 Court said that Trump can't implement twenty three states this 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.680 executive order that titans mail and voting. By the way, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.280 none of this is about like, this is all bullshit, right, 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:59.000 It's not about making voting safer. It's all about just 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.079 because he knows his to lose. I'm just going to 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:06.760 read you, as the District District Court reasoned, the executive 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.480 order lays at a clear set of rapidly approaching deadlines 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.000 in which states must cooperate. By the way, the idea 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:17.240 that they're going to federalize elections, it's bullshit and it's illegal, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.040 and watching this administration try to do it is it's 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.040 just so fucking corrupt. And I mean, we know how 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.439 this goes, and we know that they're going to try 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:31.640 everything they can, but just what, I mean, what a 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:41.640 fucking disaster. Mike Madrid is a political consultant and the 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.320 host of The Latino Vote podcast and the author of 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.240 The Latino Century. Welcome, Welcome, Mike Madrid Ollie. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.800 Always great to be with you. Thank you so much 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.520 for having me back. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.120 I wonder if we could talk about I feel like 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.880 we've seen splits a maga before, but I don't know 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.880 that we've ever seen anything quite like this. And I'm 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.959 going to refer to a political poll that we saw 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.839 earlier in the week that showed that one in five 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.199 self proclaimed magas want Donald Trump out of the war 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:17.720 in Iran today do not care just over over, And 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.200 I want you to talk about that because I think 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.000 that's profound in the fact that it is just a 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.560 complete Remember, like ninety percent of self proclaimed megas get 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.640 all their news from Trump, so it means there's a 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.760 real fracturing happening there. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:33.240 Yeah. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.160 I look for many of us, I mean, the whole 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.280 time that we've known each other, I've been kind of saying, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.800 when is the fever swamp going to be breaking? When 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.600 does the cult you know start took fade away. I'm 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.240 not going to suggest we're at that moment, but I'm 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.320 also not going to suggest we're not. I mean, we 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.520 are not seeing we have not seen to your point, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:52.800 twenty percent of self described maga disagreeing with the president 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.720 on probably his most important issue at this moment, which 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.880 is war. And what you're seeing is the Republican leadership 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:02.240 reflecting that you can't get the Save Act passed, they 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.960 pushback on funding this war, continuing this war. Those splits 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.960 are there, they are becoming larger, and they're going to 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.000 get more significant as we close in on the midterms, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.040 and especially after the midterms, Molly, that's when you're going 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.040 to have to you know, Katie, bar the doors. Shit's 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.160 going to get real after that. That's when the dynamics 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.520 of the country's politics are going to change considerably. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.000 And so let's just talk about You do a lot 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.280 of polling and a lot of work with Latino voters too, 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.360 which I would love you to just explain to us 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.240 what the Latino voting block looks like, how big it is, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.640 and also sort of how it's grown over the last 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:44.280 ten years. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.000 Yeah, so that's a great question. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.320 So the Latino electorate, as we call it, is just 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:53.200 to pass the block community vote as the largest ethnic 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.080 minority voter group in twenty twenty, and it's sitting at 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.600 about eleven to twelve percent of the electorate. Things about 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.120 that one is it's growing incredibly fast. It's picking up 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.840 about a percent a year, which is it's not unprecedented, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.320 but it hasn't happened in probably eighty ninety years that 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.000 a group is growing as fast, and perhaps more important 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.840 is where it's at. Like, of the seventeen House races, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.160 something like fifteen of them have Latino populations that are 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.600 well larger than the margin of victory is going to be, 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.640 So Latinos will determine how that vote breaks. 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.239 It's it's the only voting. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.320 Group moving molly in any meaningful way. It's like the 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.680 last swing voter will determine the balance of power in 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.520 the House, the Senate, and of course key gubernatorial races. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.280 So the fact that it is there, that it's large, 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.400 that it's unmoored, it's unanchored. It's the least partisan group 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.520 in America, and it will be determining the balance of 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.360 power not just in this election, but in most elections 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.400 going forward for the better part of our lifetimes. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:54.000 Now, So why you talk about Latino voters as a 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:59.600 swing voting block Because Trump made crazy inroads with them, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.960 But that doesn't mean he gets to keep them right now. 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.199 I mean, I argue he'd already lost them. But this 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.959 is really important, I think for people to understand. If 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.840 you're looking at Latinos as what they vote for, you're 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.960 missing the point. Latino voters are voting against both parties, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.240 and they're historically moved away. As I wrote my book 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.200 and predicted saying this shift is going to happen. Once 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.480 it happened, I said, that doesn't mean that they're Republicans. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.040 There's no evidence saying that they're Republicans. That again has 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.280 created the shift left which we saw in twenty twenty 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.119 five and were likely to see in twenty twenty six. 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.880 But that doesn't mean that the Democrats are anywhere out 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.840 of the woods. Yet they're rejecting Trump. They're not voting 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:39.280 for the Democratic Party in the same way they were 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.120 voting against Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden, not for Donald's Trump 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.600 and both parties in this country really have a difficult 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.880 time understanding that because that it is a unique voting 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.160 block in that way, let me explain it a little 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:54.120 bit more. The Latino community is the fastest growing part 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.439 of the working class, and it is shifting by twenty 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.320 points or more than many instances against the party in power. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.960 That's unlike black and white voter groups, black and white 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.200 working class people do not move. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:09.120 They're not budgeting. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.639 Black voters are not becoming more Republican in any meaningful way, 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.360 and white working cloud voters are not leaving the Republican 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.320 Party in any meaningful way. Doesn't matter whether at war, 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.200 whether there's a pandemic, doesn't matter there's economic collapse, they 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.000 do not leave. Latinas are the only voters that are saying, 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.199 we don't buy this nonsense from either of you guys. 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.480 And that's why it's becomes so critical is as both 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.280 parties are struggling to understand what it means. Both of 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.520 them are struggling and failing to meet the economic concerns 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.680 of this community. And Latino voters are rejecting whoever it 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.320 is in powered that at any given. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.000 Time, Trump won those voters. 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.080 How I would argue that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.280 lost those voters, then win them. He was winning votes 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.680 despite himself, not because of himself. That's why he's losing 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:53.280 those voters. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:53.600 Now. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.720 The Democrats, there's nothing popular about the Democrats. They're at 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.439 all time lows for a metrim election. They're not popular. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.880 They'n I'll offer a real alternative. They just are the alternative, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.200 and so anything but Donald Trump is the prevailing sentiment 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.479 for the exact same reasons that Kama Harrison Joe Biden 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.840 lost these voters. Nobody's addressing the economy. Affordability is off 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.720 the charts. Life is getting more and more difficult for 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.480 working class people, and both of these parties are ignoring 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.640 it or pretending it's not happening, and doing nothing meaningful 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.440 to address it. As long as that happens, that lack 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.399 of loyalty to either party is going to be the 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:31.680 dominant characteristic of this voter group, fast growing voter group. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.800 So let's talk this through because I think it's really interesting. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.320 So basically, from my understanding of this, we had angry 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:45.320 voters reject Trump in twenty twenty, reject Biden and Harris 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:48.440 in twenty twenty four, and now we are cruising into 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.520 a midterm. The question is they think things are too 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.879 expensive because they are, and that the middle class is 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:58.040 getting squeezed, which it is, right. I mean, like, for example, 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.560 I live in New York. We have this mayor. He 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:06.320 largely talks about affordability. That's like his thing, right, affordability. Affordability, 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.840 You know, it's not so easy to actually deliver on affordability. 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.160 But some of the things he's done is he's got 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.040 a rent freeze going, which has made a lot of 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.159 real estate people in New York furious. But you know 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.480 that is something tangible if you live in those rented 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:28.119 But I mean, what are the tangible deliverables you can offer? 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.280 And actually, because part of what Trump has gotten into 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.879 trouble with is that he said I'm gonna make everything 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.199 cheaper and then he immediately did stuff that would do 0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:39.959 the opposite. But if you wanted to make things cheaper, 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.040 I mean, is it so easy even to do that? 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.520 Well, it can make three really good points. So the 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:47.080 first is, yeah, Donald Trump's prioritization is. 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:48.440 The real problem for himself. 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:50.280 No one views, no one believed for a second that 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.440 he's all focused on this the way maybe you know 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.159 zoron Mom Donnie is whether your views is Mom Donnie 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.359 are or not? Is at least trying to do something 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:00.120 about it? 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:00.439 Right? 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.399 I mean, again with politicians, who even knows, But he 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.160 paints himself that way, paints himself the way. 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:11.080 Meanwhile, Donald Trump is you know, raising the price of 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.720 oil by losing the straight orfom moves. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:13.600 In a war that nobody wanted. 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.400 So that's But the second is you ask a really 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.639 important question is are politicians, through are traditional tools able 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.000 to actually impact the economy and coomy that has changed 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.800 so significantly and so substantially that our old tools of 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.520 governance no longer work and no longer apply. That is 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.399 a bigger question. I would submit that they do. The 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:36.960 problem is what most legislators, policymakers, executives are gonna have 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.959 to do is roll things back, not create a new 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.000 law to do something. And by the way, the one 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.720 thing that the Congress actually did do, this bipartisan housing bill, 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:49.840 the President wouldn't sign because you want to say, so 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:50.720 the one thing. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:54.840 And it did pass. I mean, yeah, go on, so. 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:56.920 I'm saying, is the one thing he could have said, 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.639 I'm doing something on the most critical issue facing Tino voters, 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.959 which is housing and housing costs. He doesn't even get 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:04.439 to take credit for, nor should he. 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:05.680 Right, it's on the bill. 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:07.440 So now, but even if. 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:10.520 Pat housing, you know, housing is a twenty thirty year program, like, 0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:11.840 it's going to take a long time to get these 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.280 things around. There's going to have to be efforts and 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:17.080 we're seeing these in California to dial back a lot 0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:17.919 of these. 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:19.639