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Speaker 3: You may know us from posting funny videos with our.

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Speaker 2: Voys and reading each other publicly as a form of therapy.

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Speaker 1: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of

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Speaker 1: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 3: But this is the truth.

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Speaker 2: Of what they share, right, because think about it, there's

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Speaker 2: less feel like you're trying to digest that you're continuously learning, yes,

442
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,239
Speaker 2: and then not saying the wrong thing, so that the

443
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 2: person the masses then feel like you're either taking a

444
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: side or you're just completely uneducated at that point, because

445
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 2: that's another thing. That's another thing, that's another layer of

446
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: its speaking on topics that you are literally not educated

447
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: or well versed in speaking on, but then just feeling

448
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 2: like it's a hot button topic right now, so I

449
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: have to say something because people are looking for me

450
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 2: to say something. You know, I even think about me

451
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 2: in this moment, choosing to really be there personally for

452
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: people who I know. And then I'm also dealing with

453
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: the loss of my uncle that I haven't even you know,

454
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: publicly put on social media either. But some people may

455
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: be looking at me like, oh my god, Kadane's been

456
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: so quiet for the past two weeks. Oh she has

457
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: nothing to say about this war or anything. Yeah, because

458
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: I just lost my own my mom's brother passed away,

459
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: and I haven't said anything publicly because I'm dealing with it,

460
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: and I'm dealing with it right The last thing I

461
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: want to do with right now is be on anybody's

462
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 2: social media. So if I was to put my phone down,

463
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 2: like I really have done for the past two weeks

464
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: because my family and I are grieving in our own way,

465
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 2: there's some things that I might not even know about

466
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: that's happening, you know, So no one takes that into

467
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: consideration when they're looking for people with a platform or

468
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: with some sort of celebrity to speak during a particular time.

469
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: Let's look at some facts and stats. In twenty nineteen,

470
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 2: there was a survey done that sixty five percent of

471
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Speaker 2: responding said that political endorsements from celebrities have no bearing

472
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: on their voting decisions, because we actually are going into

473
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: a year a voting year now, so that's interesting to know.

474
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Speaker 2: Twenty four percent said that celebrity endorsements would make them

475
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: less likely to vote for the celebrities preferred candidate, and

476
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: only eleven percent said that a celebrity endorsement would make

477
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: them more likely to vote for that candidate. So does

478
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: it really have an impact what the celebrity that you

479
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: follow were like say, when it comes to politics.

480
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Speaker 1: I will say this, right when I look at these surveys,

481
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: this is the truth. No, I'd be feeling like these

482
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: surveys be trash. You know why people say one thing

483
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: and click another. So in a survey, I'll say, it

484
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: don't matter.

485
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

486
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: Have you ever done one of those personality tests where

487
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: they like ask you different questions in different ways to

488
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: see if you're like consistent or if you're lying. You're

489
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: like kind of lying a while ago. I feel like

490
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: they I applied for a job or something like that.

491
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 2: But like you said, it's a similar thing. They gonna

492
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: think one thing, they're gonna click something else. If you

493
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: ask the question a certain kind of way, you're gonna

494
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: get a different response. So it's never really consistent.

495
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Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think popularity is what got Donald

496
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: Trump in office. A lot of people liked Donald Trump.

497
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't like Hillary Clinton. That's just

498
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: the fact, like the Clinton's at the time were not

499
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: America's favorite people, you know. And then Donald Trump had

500
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: a history of being little amongst hip hop, using a

501
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: bunch of rap songs, he in a bunch of music videos,

502
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: He's a bunch of movies, he had his own TV show.

503
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: He was popular, you know, he was a celebrity. He

504
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: literally was a celebrity. Ronald Reagan was a celebrity. Arnold

505
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger was a celebrity when he became the governor of California.

506
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: Clearly they weren't the most qualified to do.

507
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: The job, but it is proof popularity.

508
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: The popularity matters, you know, And when people say it

509
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because it sounds like the right thing to say.

510
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: So when you go to fill out a survey and

511
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: they ask you, would you vote for someone, because of

512
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: course this is the right thing to say, No, but

513
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: I really like that guy, So I'm gonna vote, but

514
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no.

515
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: I think that's what happens for sure.

516
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: I can see how that definitely becomes a trend after

517
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: a while. That's right.

518
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, Yeah, do.

519
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 1: You ever feel pressure not to reveal your humanity on

520
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: social media like that? Do you ever feel like I'm

521
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: afraid to show my humanity because in looking vulnerable on thisess,

522
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: it's going to open up so much any doors.

523
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: I just don't want to open.

524
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel that revealing my humanity and social media,

525
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: Like I can't be vulnerable, vulnerable per se, but I

526
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: look at it this way. I feel like I share

527
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: a large portion of my life with people on a

528
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: day to day basis. Again, it's curated, it's what I

529
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: choose to share, It's what we decide as a family

530
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: to share. Some things I feel like are for me.

531
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: Some things I legitimately just feel like are for me.

532
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: And the way I feel about certain things, the way

533
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: I deal with certain things, are not necessarily for public

534
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 2: consumption all the time, you know. And I feel like

535
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: if I'm always constantly running to social media to post

536
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: every bit and piece of my life and my day,

537
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: that's in part why, Like I haven't even done the subscription.

538
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: For example, people a couple of people say, why don't

539
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: you do subscription or close friends where people pay to

540
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: see like you know, you're day to day the entire day,

541
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, no, Like, people don't necessarily need

542
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: access to that. And I just feel like some things

543
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: need to be kept for me because I'm dealing with

544
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: things in my own way. You know. I feel like

545
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: I'm a small speck in this world. People don't necessarily

546
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: need to or care to hear about how I feel

547
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: about certain things, because I know sometimes when I scroll

548
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 2: through social media, I'm like, I don't necessarily care to

549
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: hear what you have to say about it, whether you're popular,

550
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 2: famous or not, and I just keep scrolling. So I

551
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: just feel like some things I just want to reserve

552
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: for myself, especially when it comes to like core values

553
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: and things like that. We have our podcast where we

554
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 2: do speak a lot about a lot of things that

555
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 2: matter to us, and we give our you know, two

556
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: cents generally on certain topics, but some people just don't

557
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: deserve to have access to that because I choose to

558
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: keep some things to myself.

559
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 3: I feel you, how about you.

560
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm honest with people on social media. If I feel

561
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: a way about it, I'm safe. But I don't share

562
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't share as much as people think I.

563
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: Share, right, or a lot as much as you used to, as.

564
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Much as I used to know.

565
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't share as much as I used to because

566
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: I also understand the responsibility that comes with this platform, right,

567
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: And I don't think it just has anything to do

568
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: with the platform.

569
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: I think sharing is naturally what humans do. Right. If

570
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: I wasn't a content creator, that's what it's been labeled now. Right,

571
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: content creator. Say I was a rapper, I would rap

572
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: about my family.

573
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: Right.

574
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: If I was a painter, I would paint my family.

575
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: So through content creation, I share my family because that's

576
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: what's most important to me.

577
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Right.

578
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: If you look at rappers who get famous or do

579
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: well at what they do, they share in an artistic

580
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: form what's important to them.

581
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: Right.

582
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: Take fifty Cent for example, he shared how the drug

583
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: game helped him develop his business skills.

584
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 3: Jay Z shared the same thing, right.

585
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: LLL shared his romanticism with women, right, and also the

586
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: fact that he tough like Mama said, not you are

587
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna play with me.

588
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: People share what's important to them.

589
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Since my family is important to me, I also have

590
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: to take into consideration what about my family isn't safe

591
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: to share?

592
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 3: So I can't share everything, right.

593
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: But I'm also very deliberate about how I critique other

594
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: people who share, because that's another part of this.

595
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 3: Right.

596
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: We did a podcast about Ayisha Curry and steph Curry,

597
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: remember the whole issue they had. We did one about

598
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: Rihanna and Asap Rocky. Right, people constantly give me our dms.

599
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: How come y'all don't talk about Will and Jada. This

600
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: is why, Remember we talked about understanding people's relationships.

601
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: We are not.

602
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Experts in Will and Jada or A seven Rocky or

603
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Aikisha and Steph. So since we're not experts, I don't

604
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: feel qualified to speak on what they're going.

605
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: Through or to pick it apart.

606
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Only thing we.

607
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Could speak on is people's responses to what they're going through.

608
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: But when you think about that, that makes it more divisive. Right,

609
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: how you feel about what other people are going through

610
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: says more about you than what they're going through.

611
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: That's interesting.

612
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: And what I've learned through social media is that I

613
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: can't expose myself often without tearing down someone else.

614
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Right, And that's just not how Yeah, that's not what

615
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: I want to do. It actually goes against everything that

616
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: we we believe it.

617
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: I just don't I don't want to pick a side

618
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: all the time. I don't want to say this person

619
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: is wrong. I don't feel this person is wrong all

620
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: the time.

621
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: And think about how much we we've evolved in that

622
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: when we sit with our groups of friends, and I

623
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: mean like our close knit groups of friends, like our

624
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: core people, which is like adopt it's not even in

625
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: circle anymore. We're not talking about that stuff. We're not

626
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: talking about gossip, We're not talking about the shade room.

627
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: We're not talking about what's new and current events that

628
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: has to do with somebody's love life or somebody's parents

629
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: in way or anything. We're talking about like progression and

630
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: my kids.

631
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: What can we do better parents?

632
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, these are the conversations that we have with

633
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, family, unpacking stuff. Like, there's a lot more

634
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: that goes into the conversations that we have with our

635
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: core people. When I was thinking about everything happening back

636
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty with racial injustice and everything that we

637
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: were speaking about the pandemic, we pretty much dedicated a

638
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: season of our podcast to speaking about these topics, sometimes

639
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: bringing in guests who were more well versed or more

640
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: experts in certain things that we weren't well versed on

641
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: to speak on these things. And it was like our

642
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: lowest when you look at the numbers, it was our

643
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: lowest numbers in terms of podcasts listen to in all

644
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: of our seasons. Do you think about some things are

645
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: being just performative because it's like you feel like you

646
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: have to say something, But do people really listen to it.

647
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: Do people really care? Are y'all really listening to what

648
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: we have to say? Do you really want to educate yourselves?

649
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Like some people just don't care to hear that, but

650
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: they want to know that it was done to say

651
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: that my celebrity person has spoken on it.

652
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Right, I agree with you, But I also feel like

653
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: people want an escape, right, Yes, Like if you're a

654
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: black man in America, yes, and you watch George Floyd

655
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: get murdered, you don't want to sit here and listen

656
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: to podcasts all day about black men being.

657
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: Murdered or black woman being murdered.

658
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: Very true.

659
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: I deal with that in my life every day.

660
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 2: Very true. And that's what we saw happening too. So

661
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Speaker 2: it's like, not that you don't want to give more

662
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: attention to it, but it's like, that's not what people

663
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: are coming to our pages for necessarily.

664
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: Some people just want to escape from the everyday atrocities

665
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: that happened. Yes, And to piggyback on what you said before,

666
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: we do have some friends who are super celebrities, and

667
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: when we get together, we don't talk about current events.

668
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: So when y'all are expecting that a celebrity should be

669
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: keen on this pop culture phenomenon in the moment, that

670
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: person may be focusing or dealing with some real life issues,

671
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: like they have children, you know, their mom is sick,

672
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: their uncle has passed away. So at times where you

673
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: feel like this celebrity deserves, this celebrity owes us their voice,

674
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: that celebrity may not even be thinking about what you

675
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: guys are thinking about at all, and they're not trying

676
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: to distance themselves on purpose, sure, but it's it's just

677
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: the truth. Like every pop culture phenomenon is not everybody's

678
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: favorite topic of discussion.

679
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: No, And if you put your phone down for three days,

680
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: considering a news cycle on social media last seventy two hours,

681
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: you might miss something, you know what I'm saying, unless

682
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: it's something ongoing. So do you think that like the

683
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: perception that certain celebrities have will keep their fans from

684
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: seeing them in a certain light. And how is it

685
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: convoluted at that point? Right? Because say, for example, your

686
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: favorite celebrity does not align or agree with your views

687
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: on something, do you then just completely stop supporting them

688
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: and whatever it is that they do, whether it's entertainment

689
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: or sports or anything. Because now I'm seeing some celebrities

690
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: speak out and they're on a side clearly, whether it's

691
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: because they you know, it's their background, it's their religion,

692
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: whatever it is. And then you have people just like,

693
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm just not gonna continue to support you or I'm

694
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: on following you now because this is one topic we

695
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: don't agree upon.

696
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, let's be honest, Like, the whole unfollow

697
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: button has always been exists. It's always been in existence, right,

698
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: it's just now people can say I'm unfollowing you for

699
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: that one reason, for that one reason. But back in

700
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: the day, if a celebrity said something that people didn't like,

701
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: they didn't have to announce that they were unfollowing them.

702
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: They just stopped watching their stuff. Right.

703
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: But here's the truth though, And being a celebrity, you

704
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: have your core audience. There's very few celebrities that has

705
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: the whole world behind them, very few. You take the

706
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: biggest names, the biggest names. I could Beyonce, she has

707
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: her people who adore her, she has some people who

708
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: hate her. Taylor Swift have people who adore her, have

709
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: people who hate her.

710
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Speaker 3: Will Smith. You know what I'm saying. People love them,

711
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: people hate them.

712
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington, a lot of people love Denzel Washington, but

713
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: then there's a lot of people who just be like

714
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: Denzel's too standoffish.

715
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: We don't know the real Denzel. You see what I'm saying.

716
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Speaker 1: You have your people who support you when you are

717
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: authentically and genuine yourself. The only time you start to

718
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: feel like you lose, like people's perceptions change, is when

719
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: you've presented yourself as something that you're not and now

720
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: you have to continuously live with that your whole life.

721
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: And then a minute you.

722
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: Say, you know what, I'm tired of playing this person

723
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: and I want to be who I really am. That's

724
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: when you lose people.

725
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: Because I think also to people want to hold you

726
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: to a standard when you do have certain celebrity, right.

727
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because people can't separate the two. For example,

728
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 2: they can't separate, for example, the ballplayer, right, the basketball

729
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: player and what he does as an entertainer in that

730
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: space from what he may believe on a social ass

731
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: or a cause as a person. And it's like some

732
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: people can't detach the two, well, create the two.

733
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: You know why, because of entitlement Now in this day

734
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: and age, it's like I watch your games, I watch

735
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: your shows.

736
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Speaker 3: I want to see who you are on social media.

737
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: Right, I want to see you as a real person.

738
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Speaker 1: And when you don't have a social media as a celebrity,

739
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: then they say you hiding something, right. But then when

740
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: you do have social media and you post about your stuff,

741
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: they may not like some of.

742
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 2: The stuff you post or it's like, oh man, their

743
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: content is so curated. We don't know who the real

744
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Beyonce is. For example, we don't know anything about her personality. Well,

745
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean no, because you're supposed to know Beyonce the entertainer, yes,

746
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: and then you have to be able to like, no,

747
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: I want to know Beyonce the person. So any little

748
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: bit that she does gives and I think that's the

749
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: beauty and what she does, the little that she does

750
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: give insight to her personal life. People eat it up

751
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: because they're like, wow, she actually let me into a

752
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: little bit of her personal space to see what that's like.

753
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: And I think that's what celebrities back in the day

754
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: had the that was the beauty of being it because

755
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: people just knew you as the entertainer.

756
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: They didn't have I'll give you an example. I'll give

757
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: you an example.

758
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Speaker 1: I think social media has opened up the world to

759
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Speaker 1: people who for thirty forty years we didn't get a

760
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: chance to really.

761
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Speaker 3: Know who they are.

762
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

763
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: But now we get a chance to see who they

764
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Speaker 1: really are. And some people don't like who they really.

765
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Speaker 2: Are, right. They like the persona, they like the celebrity,

766
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: they like the image for the image.

767
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what brands have been telling celebrities from

768
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: the beginning. It's like, if you want to continuously make money,

769
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: if you want to continue to do what you do

770
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: at a high level, you have to present an image

771
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: that people will like.

772
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 3: Because people don't like humans. People don't like flawed versions

773
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: of the superheroes they see absolutely, which is crazy, right.

774
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: Think about this.

775
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: Remember the movie Hancock with Will Smith. He was a hero,

776
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: he had superpowers, but he was flawed. So remember when

777
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: what's the white guy's name, Jason Bateman, Jason Baman.

778
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 3: When Jason Bateman came over.

779
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: To Hancock as the image consultant and he said, hey,

780
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: if you want people to like you, you got to act

781
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: this way.

782
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: He said, I don't like people.

783
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: If you think about how real, if you think about

784
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: know how real that movie is, you could be a superhero,

785
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: a god, but if you act like a human acts,

786
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: they don't like you. So you don't like that I'm

787
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: flawed like you. You don't want me to be flawed as

788
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: a celebrity because escapism, right, think about it, I want

789
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: to see something that they're not. Yes, So when they

790
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: see a celebrity, it's just like, no, that person is

791
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: rich and powerful because they're not flawed, Like, how do

792
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I get rid of all of my flaws to be

793
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: like that person? Then when they find out that that

794
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: person is just as flawed as them, it's like, oh,

795
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: my life is over now.

796
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: Or they say, yo, I can relate to this person

797
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: because I'm the same way.

798
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. That's what celebrities were thinking.

799
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, people were gonna say, right, people, And I remember

800
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: this being an athlete, remember when Charles Barkley said.

801
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 3: I'm not a role model.

802
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Was one of the top five basketball players in the

803
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: world at that time.

804
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 3: This was I believe nineteen ninety two.

805
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: He had just come off going to the finals and

806
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: losing to Michael Jordan in the NBA Finals and they

807
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: were about to play in the Dream Team, and Charles

808
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: Barkles on the Dream Team, he got to a fight

809
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: in the bar, and he did a whole psa like, Yo,

810
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a role model, thinking that if I show

811
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: you that I'm human just like you and you you

812
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't look up to me because if you look up

813
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: to me, you're going to see how flawed I am.

814
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: He probably thought, I'm gonna get people off my back.

815
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: You know what them people said, Man, fuck.

816
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: That you are role model? You made how many millions

817
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: of dollars? You have no choice but to act the

818
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: way we want you to.

819
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: This is what we pay you for. Yes, this is

820
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: what we pay you for.

821
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: Yes. So the moral of the story is, ultimately.

822
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: Don't become a celebrity.

823
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: No, no, no for real though, like for understanding understanding

824
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: that the quorum works on both sides. Yes, celebrities should

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: have the quorum because you have a huge responsibility when

826
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you ask people to support you and spend their money

827
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: by your products.

828
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: You have a responsibility absolutely not to agree.

829
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: With everything your followers want, but to use discernment with

830
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 1: the messages you put out and not be divisive and

831
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: create more harm. That's the only responsibility you have as

832
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: a celebrity. You don't have to share, but you have

833
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: a responsibility to not be divisive. You have a responsibility

834
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: to understand that you've asked these people to support you

835
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, so you can't abandon in

836
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: times when they need that right. And you also have

837
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: to be like you have to be aware. For example,

838
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Speaker 1: we are well, we're not at war, but there's a

839
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: war happening in the world right now. Yes, And I

840
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: had made a video with Kadeen weeks before and in

841
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: joking before we actually went to war, before the war

842
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: became a big deal, I had made a joke and

843
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: she had on camel pants. It was green and painting

844
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: camel pants, and I said, man, you look like an

845
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: AKA going to war. Me using discernment, was saying people

846
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: are actually in war right now, losing loved ones.

847
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, this joke is not funny.

848
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: It would be what do you think.

849
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: As you asked, Matt, and both of you were just like,

850
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even mention it. And I think that's the responsibility,

851
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: the decorum that a celebrity has to have, understanding that

852
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: you do have a bunch of people, what is going

853
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: before I post this, what is happening, that this may

854
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: be taking.

855
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: The wrong way?

856
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Read the room, Yes, read.

857
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: And that's the only responsibility you have, not to be

858
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: divisive and not to cause harm. But celebrities don't owe

859
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: nobody nothing. They don't owe anybody anything. But they're also

860
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: decorum on the.

861
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: Sides of people who are not celebrities.

862
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: Just because that person you look up to may make

863
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money or may be popular, does not

864
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: mean that that person is intelligent enough to give you

865
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: advice or to make a statement on behalf of anything

866
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: just because they're popular.

867
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Speaker 3: That's because, so let's understand, the korum works on both sides.

868
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: You expecting that person to speak on your behalf when

869
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: it comes to politics or marriage or finances, and you're

870
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 1: setting yourself up for failures.

871
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: And if I need to go in for surgery, I

872
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: ain't calling a mechanic to see what he are he

873
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: trying to say he fixes stuff a popular ma right,

874
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going to the michelin man like, hey, what

875
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: do you think about this? You know, thyroid issue? I

876
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: got no sir. You might work on stuff, but you

877
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: ain't about to work on me. All right, y'all, let's

878
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: go take a quick break listening out, take a quick bit. Okay,

879
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: all right, y'all, let's take a quick break. We're gonna

880
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: pay some bills and then we're going to move into

881
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 2: listener letters. So stick around and we'll be back.

882
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: All right, listener letters, we are back. I'm gonna jump

883
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: right in. We don't have a lot of time, so

884
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna read one today.

885
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: Okay.

886
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you to Valen Kadeen

887
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: for remaining discipline and seeing the bigger picture for people

888
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: like us.

889
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much.

890
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: You guys are amazing. My husband and I have been

891
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: married for over a year. I love that man so much.

892
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: That sounds good.

893
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: One of the issues, one.

894
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: Of the issues.

895
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Look at you, look at you. One of the issues

896
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: I have with him is his weight. I don't know

897
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: an approachable way to express my feelings to him for

898
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: him to receive what my thoughts and opinions are. I've

899
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: expressed it before, but it wasn't in a loving way

900
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: for him to take it. I've tried the loving and

901
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: encouraging way, but it doesn't resonate with him. His weight

902
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: is an issue for me. I met him in college

903
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: he was a young tender ronie. To then meet him

904
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: back in Texas, he had gained weight, but not much

905
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: to where I couldn't take it. Plus he was working

906
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: out heavily then. Now it's out of hand. I understand

907
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: a man has to eat, but guys, this is out

908
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: of hand. He would juice and eat right after for

909
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: a couple hours to now, picking up food on his

910
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: way home, grabbing McDonald's cookies, etc. He is bottom heavy,

911
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: so he has thick thighs. Pause, and but bigger than mine.

912
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: I have a nice one, she said, And I have

913
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: a nice one. It's getting to the point where it's

914
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: embarrassing and I don't want him to I don't want

915
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: to take him nowhere. The way he runs in his

916
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: family is what is a loving, approachable way for him

917
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: to understand that I don't like it and it's time

918
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: for him to change. I heard his feelings last time

919
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: and made things worse. I love him, but I'm now embarrassed.

920
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: He can do better, But how can I influence him

921
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: to do better and be consistent?

922
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: Wow?

923
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: This is a topic.

924
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: Wow, a man with a booty bigger than mine? Like, Oh,

925
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: I don't like the media fat body to child. We

926
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: can't be in competition. We definitely can't be in competition. However,

927
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: she did say she said something the first time, and

928
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: then it kind of backfired and made things worse. He

929
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: might even just be rebelling because that's nothious terrorist, no

930
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: dead ass. Because sometimes it's just like, oh, and you've

931
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: been guilty of that too. It's like, oh, I say

932
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: something about it, you don't like the way I said it,

933
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: or I'm trying to put a parameter on you, and

934
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: you're just like just to rebel.

935
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not just to rebel and get out

936
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: of shape and put my health at risk to rebel.

937
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true too. And it's funny because this

938
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: is like a reverse. Like usually you'll hear about women

939
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: gaining weight after like childbirth, and she got big, But

940
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: now it's like a woman not to her husband.

941
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, Na, it's not the reverse.

942
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Women have been saying more frequently now that they have

943
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 1: issues too with their husbands who gained weight. The problem

944
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: is back in the day, there was no voice for

945
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: them to express that. But it's always been a thing.

946
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: It's always been a thing, but they can't express it

947
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: the same way. Men have felt like it's been a thing,

948
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: but I can't say nothing because I hurt my wife feelings.

949
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: This is the truth, ladies and gentlemen, When you meet someone,

950
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: physical attraction.

951
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: Is part of it, man or woman.

952
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the physical attraction is part of it.

953
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say, oh, it's the heart. Oh, it's

954
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: how they make me feel. Oh, it's they're a good person.

955
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. No, y'all are liars. Yes, saying that because

956
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: I know for me, I mean when I met you,

957
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: you you know, yeah, you were young, TENDERRONI resemble a potspoon.

958
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 2: I knew you would grow into your resemble I even

959
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: grow into yourself and whatnot. But no, you you say

960
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 2: they in the day out that you maintain a certain

961
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: level of physicality for yourself, but most so for me,

962
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 2: because I deserve to have I.

963
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: Want to look the way you remembered me, because I

964
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: want you to constantly have that feeling of desire.

965
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 3: Yes, I want that for you.

966
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I want that for you like it's important. I

967
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: want that as a man as well. But I also

968
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: want to walk in the door, walk out of that shower,

969
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: get done working out, and have my wife say ooh

970
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: not oh I remember when And if it's something I

971
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: can control, right, take away health risks. Right, If it's

972
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: something I can control, I can eat better, I can

973
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: work out more, I can make better life choices. I

974
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: should do that for my spouse on my significant other,

975
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: and she should do that for me.

976
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 3: I'm a firm.

977
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Believer in that, this whole idea, and I just want

978
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: to be lazy, and you're going to accept me as

979
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: I am because the Bible says accept me as I

980
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: am is just a crock of shit.

981
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: It's a crock of shit. Bro. It's an easy way

982
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: to set the bar lower so that you have to

983
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: do less.

984
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, most people who

985
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: set the ball lower for themselves still expect more from

986
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: their significant other. So you set the ball low, but

987
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: now expect that man to stay in shape or that

988
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: woman to stay in shape.

989
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: No, how right, how about you set.

990
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: The ball high for yourself and stay in shape for

991
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: them and then say, babe, let's do this together.

992
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: I was about to ask her, or not ask her,

993
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: but I was wondering if she's in shape and it's

994
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: the thing that they can do together, right, because she

995
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: mentioned talking about it before. But is it like a

996
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: blaming him for getting weight and then not giving him

997
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: actionable things to help him.

998
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: She didn't she didn't give us a breakdown of that.

999
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, gentleman, gentleman, just because your

1000
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: wife hasn't said to you that the little bit of

1001
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: weight gain is unattractive doesn't mean that she doesn't feel

1002
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: that way. I have a group of my guys, group

1003
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: of married guys, and we discussed this, like, Yo, have

1004
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: you been working out?

1005
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: What do you look like? Why would you do that

1006
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 3: to your wife? Like me bowl reef. Like we get

1007
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 3: in and be like, yo, you gained about fifteen my ge.

1008
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,479
Speaker 2: That's true. You said to your brother.

1009
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm like that. What are you doing?

1010
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: You expect that woman to come home and bust it

1011
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: wide open and be ready to do all this stuff

1012
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: for you, and you not keeping up your end of

1013
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: the bargain.

1014
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: No, I am never gonna be on that train where

1015
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to just gain weight.

1016
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: No, you have a thyroid issue, you hurt, you got

1017
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: to a car accident, you're going through men a pause.

1018
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: You're an older person who's dealing with an issue, a

1019
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: medical issue that you can't do it. That's different, it's different,

1020
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: but you just choosing to not do it. Come on, man,

1021
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: because you efforting right, Because if you were single, right,

1022
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: most single people do what and this is my thing. This,

1023
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: this is the thing that bothers me. With you, ladies,

1024
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shout you out a little bit.

1025
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: Here.

1026
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: You and this guy, right, y'all not doing well? You

1027
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: gain weight, he cheats, or he decides you want to

1028
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: be with someone, what's the first thing you do. I'm

1029
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna go get I'm gonna get right, I'm gonna go

1030
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: get my body right to.

1031
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: Not agree with you with I was like trying to

1032
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: stick up for y'all, ladies, But I know about three

1033
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: people come to mind right now that that's exactly what

1034
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: they did. That's exactly what they did. They broke up

1035
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: a homeboy and God was just like and then in

1036
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 2: the gym, heavy bomb looking bomb.

1037
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 3: Now you know, why not do that for him while

1038
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: he was there?

1039
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1040
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: And it goes both ways, right, we've been saying, Yo,

1041
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: there's a whole contingent now on social media. King, work

1042
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 1: on yourself, King, work on yourself. That girl only working King,

1043
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: work on yourself. How about you work on yourself while

1044
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: being with somebody, not after you've left them.

1045
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: To work on yourself, true work on yourself.

1046
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: Wowly while you're with somebody, be the best version of

1047
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: yourself and not only for them, but for yourself.

1048
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was healthy. I about to say, like, even

1049
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: when we've had issues with like just consistency on my

1050
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: part in the gym, it was never because you didn't

1051
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: like the way I looked at various phases. It was

1052
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: you just trying to hold me accountable, saying, kay, like

1053
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: you need to be consistent with this like anything else

1054
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: in life, and me complaining about the things that I

1055
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: wanted to achieve, and you're just like, you're never gonna

1056
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 2: achieve those things if you're not doing it consistently. So

1057
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: it's like it's coded in love, and sometimes sometimes it's

1058
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: tough love. But I do think since that the approach

1059
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: may be, you know, trying to do things together. It's

1060
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: a lot more fun when we do it together. Deval

1061
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 2: and I were just talking about this the other day

1062
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,479
Speaker 2: because he was just like, you know, I see working

1063
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: out together as like bonding time. Whereas he likes to

1064
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: get up in the morning, he'll brush his teeth and

1065
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: he'll go right to the gym. Me, I gotta get up,

1066
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 2: I got to have my coffee. I gotta like sit,

1067
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: I gotta marinate, I gotta get some energy. I just

1068
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: can't function like that in the gym, and we've learned

1069
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: to agree that, Okay, we do things differently, but I

1070
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: get my workout in. Ultimately I get my workout in.

1071
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: He gets his workout in. And we've been doing it

1072
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 2: consistently that way for the past few weeks.

1073
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: We've learned, or I've learned that Kadeen is going to

1074
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: do what Kadeen wants to do on her time and

1075
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: in her terms. So you know what Devala is gonna do.

1076
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell Kadeen

1077
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: exactly what I acquire, what I need. You find a

1078
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: way to get it done. Because when you require something

1079
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and you need it.

1080
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: I find a way to get it done.

1081
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm not going to mince my words or stay it

1082
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: in a way because ma'am, there's no way I can

1083
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: tell you to talk to your husband to make him

1084
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: feel better about it. You know your husband. Listen to

1085
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: your husband. Listen to him and say, hey, babe, what's

1086
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: going on with your weight? Let him tell you what

1087
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: it is, and then when he tells you what it is,

1088
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: support him, but also tell.

1089
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 3: Him what you require. There's nothing wrong with that. Like

1090
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 3: we can hold our spouse is responsible. We're gonna spend

1091
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: life together. Life.

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Speaker 1: This is what I require, Baby, tell me what you require?

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Speaker 1: Do we agree on what we require and what we

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00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: can perform for each other. If we do, let's work

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00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,919
Speaker 1: on it. It's that simple, this whole be gentle and talk,

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Speaker 1: be kind.

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Speaker 3: Just too much of that these days.

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Speaker 1: Babe, you like what you like, six packs, you like

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: beards to me to be a little bit lean but

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Speaker 1: a little big. I'm gonna work on that. You know

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Speaker 1: what I like? I like thirty six, twenty eight, forty two.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that?

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Speaker 2: Period?

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Speaker 1: If Kate would have said I ain't with all of that,

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00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: I'd been like, cool, this. We don't work well together

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Speaker 1: because that's what I require. If I didn't want to

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00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: give us to get a six pack of work to

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00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: grow up because I don't like grown my beer, I

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00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: grow it out for her. But I feel comfortable making

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00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: a choice doing that because I know that's what she likes.

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Speaker 3: We chose to do that for each other, so we

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Speaker 3: happy with each other.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I can't tell nobody how to make their husband

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Speaker 1: feel good working out. I can't tell a woman how

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00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: to feel good working out. Y'all got to talk to

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Speaker 1: each other, find out what it is, and talk clearly

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00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: and directly to it. Don't talk around you know what.

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00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: That's my advice, don't talk around each other.

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Speaker 2: And working out too, I've had moments where I'm just

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Speaker 2: like devout. You can't talk me into feeling like doing anything. No,

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00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 2: you can't, because work out for me, I felt like

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00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 2: was an extremely personal thing in terms of just finding

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Speaker 2: the energy to do it. You know, my method, how

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00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: I want to do it, my approach. But eventually something

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: had to click in me to be like, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is the result that I need and want for myself

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00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: first and foremost, and then my husband's going to reap

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Speaker 2: the benefits of it too, all the better. That was

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Speaker 2: the motivation that I needed to even sometimes just get

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: the kickstart, because sometimes the rut is just trying to

1131
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 2: get it started. Once you get in there, it becomes addictive.

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00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 2: So good luck to you. Sis. Hopefully you can just

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: be straightforward but also take an approach with him that

1134
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: is coded in love and coded in support, but straightforward

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Speaker 2: but straightforward for sure.

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Speaker 3: And when he's straightforward with you, be willing to accept

1137
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: it and don't.

1138
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 2: Judge him for it. Yes, for sure, all right, y'all,

1139
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Speaker 2: keep writing in to us. You could be featured as

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Speaker 2: one of our listening letters. If you do so, email

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Speaker 2: us at dead ass Advice at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's d E A D A S S A D

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Speaker 1: V I C E at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: All right, moment of truth time. We're talking about celeb

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00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 2: culture when it comes to decorum and social media and

1146
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: what to speak on or not speak on, and what

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00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: we really think about that. Do you want to hear

1148
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: from your celebrity person or not?

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Speaker 3: This is my moment of truth.

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00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: Social media has made people feel entitled to hearing from

1151
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: quote unquote celebrities about everything all the time, and my

1152
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: moment of truth is those people are not qualified to

1153
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: talk about everything all the time, so stop expecting them

1154
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: to talk about everything all the time. And as on

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00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: the other side, as a celebrity, you have a responsibility

1156
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: to make sure you educate yourself and not be a

1157
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: tool for the divisiveness in a world where it's so

1158
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: easy to take a little bit of comment and blow

1159
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: the world up because they can say so and so

1160
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: said this. Be smart, celebrities, be smart. Don't be a

1161
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: tool and use for divisiveness. And people give them a

1162
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: little bit of empathy and understanding that they may may

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: not know what they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: My moment of truth. I'm going to reiterate something that

1165
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: I said earlier because I think it's so so so

1166
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: spot on with the way I felt lately. Some are

1167
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: posting on social media, some are protesting in the streets,

1168
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: Some are donating silently, Some are educating themselves, Some are

1169
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 2: having tough conversations with family and friends. People are doing

1170
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: things and working through them in their own way, and

1171
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: we cannot hold people to the standard that we feel

1172
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: and see fit for them when it comes to how

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00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: they deal with situations, particularly pertaining to social media. Some

1174
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: people are doing things behind the scenes and silently and

1175
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: with the core group of people who they have access to,

1176
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: where their help and their voice is more tangible in

1177
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: that moment. A revolution has many lanes, so don't judge,

1178
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: be kind to other people as long as we're working

1179
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: in the same direction, period period. All right, y'all, that

1180
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 2: is all we have for you today. Thank you for listening,

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