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Speaker 2: Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, and Nate Newton, what's.

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Speaker 1: Going on across the land?

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Speaker 4: It ain't nothing, I ain't Yeah, we hear you know

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Speaker 4: what it is, man, that's a live look at the

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Speaker 4: It's a hanging with the boys specialty. Yeah, it's wet.

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Speaker 4: It's wet. It's a wet one. Yeah, it's raining outside

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Speaker 4: a lot. It's how we like him, went here and

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Speaker 4: hanging with the boys. Our boy Nate is not with

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Speaker 1: But it is me. It's Kurt, is Chris. We're all here.

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Speaker 4: That is Kurt Daniels, senior editor at Dallas Cowboy dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Emmy well Winter.

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Speaker 4: Chris is in the back holding it down, doing what

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Speaker 4: he does in that dark room with the lotion on

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Speaker 4: the counter.

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Speaker 5: Expecting that one.

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Speaker 1: Chris, I.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some sabitizer, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever your thing is,

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Speaker 4: I am Zaddy Holly. Together we make hanging with the

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Speaker 4: Boys the sports talk equivalent of Braille.

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Speaker 1: People feel us when we speak. Yes, we are.

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Speaker 4: A couple of days away from what is this super

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Speaker 4: Bowl fifty nine? Okay, super Bowl fifty four Chiefs and

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles are getting ready set to go to play

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Speaker 4: that game.

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Speaker 1: But of course, you know, some news happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, some coordinators were named and things are kind of

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Speaker 4: taking the first step of the Cowboys off season.

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Speaker 1: Let me say this, you know what, you know, it's.

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Speaker 4: Kind of irritating me a little bit about the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: like hearing them talking mobile and Jerry and Steven and

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Speaker 4: the likes.

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Speaker 1: There's this level of this.

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Speaker 4: Cavalier. It's it's no sense of urgency. It's just you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll get there when we get there, and that that

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Speaker 4: that I don't know why, but it's gotten to me

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Speaker 4: a little bits.

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Speaker 6: You want to see them feel a little more pressure

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Speaker 6: per se, or or be like yes, you know, more excited.

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Speaker 4: Or no, I want I want the language to be

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Speaker 4: from Jerry, from Steven, from coach McCarthy. I want it

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Speaker 4: to be a more aggressive language. I don't want it

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Speaker 4: to be yeah, you know, where we're not trying to

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Speaker 4: play the all in game and where we like to

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Speaker 4: be in the middle, and you know, we're gonna build

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Speaker 4: this thing for the long term.

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Speaker 1: How long, Kurt, we're going on. We're close to thirty.

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Speaker 6: Years, Yeah, getting there, you know, Like, Yeah, it's it's

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Speaker 6: hard to listen to those talks and get any excitement.

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Speaker 6: I agree, especially when Jerry and you know, he is,

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Speaker 6: you know, mix up his words and it doesn't always

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Speaker 6: come out like maybe he went but when he said,

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Speaker 6: you know, I'm good in the middle, it's just not

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Speaker 6: the kind of thing you want to hear.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And especially when you look up and you're saying, boy, like,

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Speaker 4: it's not just anc team that's going to the super

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Speaker 4: Bowl that's in the super Bowl, but it's a division rival,

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Speaker 4: a team that's that's lapped you in the sense, A

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Speaker 4: team that's front office this year, yeah twice, a team

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Speaker 4: that's front office this year put on a masterclass on

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Speaker 4: how to maneuver and work things to the best of

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Speaker 4: your ability, to get talent in and to maximize talent,

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Speaker 4: and it just seems as if the Cowboys are going

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Speaker 4: in the wrong direction. And while everyone is moving at

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Speaker 4: one speed in the football world, right, not not the

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Speaker 4: media portion, not the dressing up nice in need like

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Speaker 4: literally in football movement, they're moving in a direction that

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Speaker 6: I would agree with that. Yeah, I mean, it's the

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Speaker 6: last three NFC Super Bowl teams have been with the Buccaneers, Rams,

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Speaker 6: now the Eagles, who have been very aggressive in free

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Speaker 6: agency and making aids. I mean, you look at some

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Speaker 6: of the additions they've all added, and yet the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: are still let's draft and Development's draft and development, you know,

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Speaker 5: And it makes you wonder, is that.

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Speaker 6: The new formula and is that something that they need

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Speaker 6: if they're gonna get over the top. Yes, they're gonna

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Speaker 6: be good. They've got pieces in place, They're gonna be

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Speaker 6: a contender. But to get to that Super Bowl? Do

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Speaker 6: they need to be more aggressive in what they're doing?

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Speaker 1: They do?

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Speaker 4: And I you know, one of the things I absolutely

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Speaker 4: love about Jerry Jones is for a long portion of

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Speaker 4: he's been the risk taker. He's been the one who

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. You know, back in the day

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Speaker 4: right and not get the salary cap has come, but

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Speaker 4: there's enough smart people, math numbers, people who know how

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Speaker 4: where you can get people that you want, you know,

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Speaker 4: free agency. It's it's look a look at the way

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Speaker 4: the college game is going. Coaches now, unless you're the

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Speaker 4: University of Texas, who has I think Texas had like

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Speaker 4: three thousand scholarships they just signed gods that Like every

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Speaker 4: time I look up, like, oh, five stars, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: how many scholarships Texas have. But you look at more

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Speaker 4: know what, I'm just gonna go get the sophomore of

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Speaker 4: the junior transfer portal and not get a scholarship to

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Speaker 1: Draft or recruit and develop.

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Speaker 4: You know, John Calipari was really on the forefront of

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of those coaches out.

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Speaker 4: You know, my coach, all the coaches, they just can't

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Speaker 4: handle the way that the thing is being going now.

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Speaker 4: But I say that to say that the Cowboys need

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Speaker 4: to kind of treat their system like that, like I

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Speaker 1: Get some guys who are right now right like not.

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, if Joe if Ellterbert, we stayed Otobert,

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Speaker 4: and now you're like, oh, we let the maury walk

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Speaker 4: with the offer, you go get the guys right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a definite philosophy there. You see it in

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Speaker 6: baseball for a long time, although their draft is even

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Speaker 6: more in football, I think, where guys the draft picks

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Speaker 1: That's the old model.

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Speaker 4: The old model because you had coaches who were giving

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Speaker 1: You don't have that anymore.

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Speaker 4: Like you got guys who get contract extensions to get

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Speaker 4: fired the next year. Like coach has been getting like,

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Speaker 4: very next year. So coaches don't have the ability anymore

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Speaker 4: that's that's old football, where quarterbacks, you drafted them in

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Speaker 4: No quarterbacks, you gotta come out and go right now.

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Speaker 1: And some are, but a lot aren't.

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Speaker 4: And if that's the method of what you're going to

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Speaker 4: build your football team, and you'll always finish close. But

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Speaker 4: because other teams are gonna say, why you're developing that

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go sign this phone pro bowler who understands football,

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Speaker 4: So I agree with you. I think there needs to

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Speaker 1: Want to draft.

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Speaker 4: But your team can't consist of a whole bunch of

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Speaker 4: those guys. No, you can't have potential. What does the

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Speaker 4: old saying potential get you fired? Yeah, the only problem

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Speaker 4: here is well, yeah, for the guys, the top dog

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Speaker 4: is the top dog. He can bet on the potential

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Speaker 6: No, No, although he's I wonder if you know he's

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Speaker 6: getting up there in age, if maybe there's there is

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Speaker 6: a deadline starting to get a little closer than it

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Speaker 6: was twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: But can you teach old dog new tricks?

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Speaker 7: Car?

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Speaker 6: And that's you know, if you look at those teams

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Speaker 6: are the nineties when they won the three Super Bowls

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Speaker 6: in four years, those.

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Speaker 5: Were really built.

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Speaker 6: Eighty eighty eight, Michael Gorrin came on, eighty nine, ninety

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Speaker 6: ninety one, even ninety two draft, all that, that's when

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Speaker 6: those teams were built. Even the ninety five squad was

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Speaker 6: largely built ahead of that. Well, free agency as we

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Speaker 6: kind of know it today started in ninety three. I

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Speaker 6: mean they had Plan B a free agency, but that

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Speaker 6: was still pretty restrictive and it was almost a players

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Speaker 6: didn't want that, because I means their team wanting free

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Speaker 6: agency started in ninety three and Salari Caap I believe

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Speaker 6: been to a super Bowl. So kind of you know,

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Speaker 6: is roster management been an issue for this team? Is

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Speaker 6: that the reason why managing that salary cap and be

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Speaker 6: the money when you need to that seemingly has been

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Speaker 4: And it has and the players have been here, right,

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Speaker 6: Concern is there's always a need still, you know.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna get into this Brian

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about the newly named offensive coordinator for your

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Speaker 4: first fifteen is developed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is.

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Speaker 4: The first fifth script script right, So through this, this

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Speaker 4: is what they're telling you how the first fifteen they're

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Speaker 4: going to play. Say hey, guys, on first down, here's

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Speaker 4: what they primarily want to do. This team defensively on

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Speaker 4: first downs, are gonna play cover this or cover four

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Speaker 4: or cover five right, Hey, on third downs, this team,

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Speaker 4: as a fundamental base are gonna play this, and here

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Speaker 4: are some variations of that defense that they're gonna play

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Speaker 4: on third and third and short and third, medium and

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Speaker 4: third and along and so you take that and you

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Speaker 4: will combiss that into your game plan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's how.

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Speaker 4: The meetings are working. It's done the same thing on

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Speaker 4: the defensive side. Hey, guys, on first down, the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: are gonna run the ball into the A gap. Just

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Speaker 4: know it's coming. On every first down for a large

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Speaker 4: majority of the time, they're gonna run the ball right

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Speaker 4: into the A gap on first down.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna motion anybody. They're gonna just run it.

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Speaker 4: Right at us on first down and we're gonna get

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Speaker 4: him for a loss. And they're probably gonna run the

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Speaker 4: same play again on second.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: So that's how it's done offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 4: Now with Brian Schottenheimer, I'm thinking, I don't know how

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Speaker 4: he developed his game plan, but the question comes to

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Speaker 4: what is the identity gonna be?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, I don't think we will know yet. But

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Speaker 6: well before we get jumped there. So going back so

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Speaker 6: all the all the guys are in the offensive coaches

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Speaker 6: are doing their thing and they're telling the whole meeting.

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Speaker 6: Is McCarthy involved in any of that or he just

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Speaker 6: kind of sitting back or is he bouncing over to

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Speaker 6: the defensive room.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think so.

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Speaker 4: My first head coach here in Dallas was Wade Phillips.

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Speaker 4: So Wade who was a defensive coordinator, and that's that's

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Speaker 4: where his buttered his bread at in this league, he

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Speaker 4: would spend most of his time over in the defensive

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Speaker 4: side of the ball, right, So he would be in

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Speaker 4: those meetings and helping and conducting those meetings. But then

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Speaker 4: he would walk back down the hallway and come into

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Speaker 4: our meetings and he would stand off to the side

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Speaker 4: or set off to the side, and every now and

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Speaker 4: again he'll come in and he'll comment, Okay. Then Jason

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Speaker 4: Garrett took over and it was the same thing, head coach,

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Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. So he did the team meeting and then

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Speaker 4: once we broke down off his defense, he was in

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Speaker 4: the offensive meeting room. Now because he was the offensive

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Speaker 4: play caller and the offensive coordinator, he conducted a lot

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Speaker 4: of the meeting and very rarely did he leave and

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Speaker 4: go down to.

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Speaker 1: The defensive meeting.

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Speaker 4: Groom. Okay, yeah, so most of the time, depending on

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Speaker 4: what that coach is, what what is his background built

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Speaker 4: in offensive defense, he's going to spend most of his

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Speaker 4: time there.

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Speaker 6: Yea, does that create because they are going to have

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Speaker 6: a guy setting up the offense in Schottenheimer, but McCarthy

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Speaker 6: calling players that is there any risk of confusion or

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Speaker 6: or you know, different philosophies or whatever that the player

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Speaker 6: that would cause different communication I guess or miscommunication.

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Speaker 4: For me because a lot of what we do as athletes,

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Speaker 4: we get our communication from our position coaches. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: now after you get done with your offensive defensive meeting,

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Speaker 4: there's another meeting.

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Speaker 5: Go figure in school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then you break down into your position meeting, and

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Speaker 4: now it's getting more specific on what you just learned

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Speaker 4: in the offensive defensive meeting and how that suits you

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Speaker 4: specifically at your position. And that's where you get your

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Speaker 4: your tone is set from your from the offensive perspective.

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Speaker 4: A coach will tell you that, all right, listen, fellas,

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Speaker 4: this week, we're going to be heavy on the run

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Speaker 4: because of here's here's what they present to us. It

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Speaker 4: says that we'll be able to get the run off

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Speaker 4: or hey, hey, god, this week's going to be on us.

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Speaker 4: This is one of the weeks where we can we

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Speaker 4: can go go eat, you know, go hunt, fellas. This

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Speaker 4: this is your time to go and hunt. And we're

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Speaker 4: putting in players to go do so. And so you

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Speaker 4: get your tone from there, and then how it's the

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Speaker 4: how it's running back up the ladder is and player

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Speaker 4: like myself, I don't get much say so in those

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Speaker 4: meetings because about the guy.

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Speaker 1: But when you have your your.

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Speaker 4: CD, lamb right, CD's talking to his poliic coach and saying, coach, listen,

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Speaker 4: I saw on the meeting the office coding the meeting

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Speaker 4: and then sorry, the offensive meeting.

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Speaker 1: And we ran that.

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Speaker 4: We ran that bang eight like I think we should

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Speaker 4: run it like this. And so now CD will be

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Speaker 4: able to take that to his position coach. They will

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Speaker 4: then go out to the football field for practice and

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Speaker 4: maybe there's a little bit of a kind of a

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Speaker 4: muddle huddle and they may run it one way, and

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Speaker 4: then you know, the coach can kind of come and

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Speaker 4: CD may be able to come to Brian Schahamer and go, coach, listen, man,

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Speaker 4: I want to run the bang gate, but let me

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Speaker 4: try to run it like this, and then they'll go,

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Speaker 4: all right, hey, let's run it again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, ce D. Let's see what it looks like. And then

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Speaker 1: it's go, you know what, I like it? All right?

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Speaker 1: You know, he'll write it down.

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Speaker 4: And then he'll go, hey, listen, going forward in this

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Speaker 4: game and we run this bang eight, we're gonna run

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Speaker 4: it like this against that coverage. Dak you got it.

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Speaker 4: CD receivers you got it, Quarterbacks, you got it. That's

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Speaker 4: how we're gonna do it. And it may change from

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Speaker 4: week to week, but but that's how it's kind of

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Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of worked for that. But my

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Speaker 4: only concern with the whole he's the offensive coordinator, but

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Speaker 4: he's the play caller is on game day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that would be my worry too. That's when

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Speaker 6: the miscommunication come.

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Speaker 4: Correct because if Mike is calling the place and being

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Speaker 4: the pseudo but the head coach, is there time for

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Speaker 4: you to go over and sit with your quarterback and

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Speaker 4: kind of get that because what you what you see

560
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Speaker 4: on film, what you practice on the practice field, what

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Speaker 4: happens in the game time can at times be three

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Speaker 4: separate things. Because now you need to go over there

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Speaker 4: and have that moment, and it may last longer than

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Speaker 4: two or three minutes, it may last longer than five minutes.

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Speaker 4: But I need to have that communication time with my

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Speaker 4: quarterback as the play caller. Tell me, you'll hear coach

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Speaker 4: at the time, tell me what you saw? What are

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Speaker 4: you seeing? Right, because that's gonna help me because I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm standing from the side, you're looking down the gun barrel.

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Speaker 4: I need to see what you're seeing. I need I

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Speaker 4: need you to explain to me what you're seeing and

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Speaker 4: how can we either improve, eliminate, do whatever to that

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Speaker 4: specific play or a package of plays. That's my only

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Speaker 4: concern is how is that going to work on game

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Speaker 4: day when Mike still has to be a game manager, Right,

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Speaker 4: you still have to look up there and go, hey,

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Speaker 4: we need a red flag. The challenge of play the

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Speaker 4: clock is running, Like that's the communication. That the part

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Speaker 4: that I worry about when it comes.

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Speaker 6: To those Ghimer will be on the sidelines to kind

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Speaker 6: of have those conversations or I.

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Speaker 1: Think he has to be.

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Speaker 4: I think he has to be because other than that,

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Speaker 4: like who's talking to Dak Like I get the old

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Speaker 4: school phone thing, But that's you know I need somebody

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Speaker 4: down here with me. I can Hey look at the tablet.

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Speaker 4: Let's look. Let's work through this thing. You know, all right,

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Speaker 6: I'll definitely watch some of it. Obviously we won't have

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Speaker 6: ask you is kind of hatting at it earlier, but

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00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 6: as players like I get the impression sometimes that Nate

658
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 6: would want the Eagles to win because that's representing the

659
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 6: NFC Conference's revening the East Division. That proves that they

660
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 6: as you know, it looks good on them because their

661
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 6: division is winning.

662
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 5: No thinks.

663
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: But you don't want your rival them, no, no, no

664
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 6: matter what.

665
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: No, I don't want like. I don't want to be like, yeah,

666
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 4: go win the National championships.

667
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: The looks bad.

668
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no.

669
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: I want Lee how to beat the brakes off them?

670
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 8: Right?

671
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: I want?

672
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: I want you know, no no no no no no

673
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: no no no no no chance no, not a chance,

674
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 4: not a chance, not a freaking How are you going to.

675
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: Partake this game?

676
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. I don't know.

677
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: I've talked about maybe because I have a connection. I

678
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: did my pre and post game show at Texas Live

679
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: this year, and so I have a connection down there.

680
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 4: I don't have to spend the ungullly amount of money

681
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: to get a table down there reserved because you know,

682
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: it's it's like seven hundred dollars. It's probably more now

683
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: because but like to go to Texas Live and to

684
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: reserve one of those tables like that in front of

685
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 4: the big screen, you have to spend a minimum of

686
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 4: seven hundred, like seven hundred dollars on on the game day.

687
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no idea.

688
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 4: So now, but I'll say this, the table does sit

689
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: like maybe eight to ten. Yeah, so I guess if

690
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: everybody's kind of you know, a couple of drinks, some

691
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 4: food to collectively, you hope you can get the seven

692
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: hundred dollars.

693
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: But it's a seven hundred dollars minimum.

694
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: Wow.

695
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: I think sometimes depending on who we're playing, they kind

696
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: of the price. It's not set pricely functioning sure, because

697
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 4: some games they will like even some away games, they

698
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 4: will charge for entry.

699
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: It depends on how big the game is. Yeah, it's

700
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: it's I.

701
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 4: Mean, you know, everybody's capitalist. They got to make your money.

702
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 4: Gotta make your money somehow. They learn from the best.

703
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: They learned from the Guy Stadium right down the street,

704
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: from the right down from the state charger tourists whatever,

705
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 4: they want whatever. Today the tour is going to be

706
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 4: sixty seven dollars tomorrow, Yeah, forty seven dollars.

707
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: It's how I feel it. That's how I feel.

708
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 4: One thing I do want to get to before we

709
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 4: kind of move on to that was we I pose

710
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: a question about identity. Yeah, that's been that's been a

711
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: question that we've asked about this Cowboys offense. Jason Garrett,

712
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy Like, it's been a question.

713
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I.

714
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: Pose a question to you, my good friend with Brian Schottenhamer,

715
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: with Mike McCarthy now taking over the play calling. Knowing

716
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: Mike comes from the West Coast and he and Callen

717
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: kind of merged the the Air Courriel and the West

718
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: Coast a little bit together in trying to keep something

719
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: from the old while implementing some of his stuff from

720
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: his past.

721
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: What will the Cowboys be?

722
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, I need you to kind of

723
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 6: the West Coast offense has more quick passes, that kind

724
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: of thing. So it sounds like that's the direction he's

725
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 6: going to go, and that, you know, I wonder though,

726
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 6: are we going to see a huge difference in what

727
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: this offense does and therefore it may not know what

728
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 6: the identity is because I don't know what it. I mean,

729
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 6: are are the pieces in place to have an overhaul

730
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 6: of your offense or is there time? I mean you

731
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 6: got to think this is McCarthy's if he don't do

732
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 6: it this season, I mean he's wanted done. Now. Does

733
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 6: he have the time to get this not only implement

734
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 6: his offensive scheme, but really get a clicking on all

735
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: cylinders like it? I mean, say what you say about

736
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 6: Kellen's scheme and maybe getting a little dole and predictive.

737
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: I mean they knew it.

738
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 6: They've been doing it so long, right, I mean, is

739
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: that going to be an issue for him and in

740
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 6: forging his new identity that he just not going to

741
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 6: have the personnel or time to do it.

742
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 4: I think that's what's going to make this off season

743
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: so critical, because you know what you need as far

744
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: as players, and Mike McCarthy's perspective, he knows what players

745
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 4: he needed, what type of players like you know, like

746
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: dan Quinn. Right, dan Quinn has always wonted, especially on

747
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: the on the back end of his defense, tall long

748
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 4: range ye athletes, and for the most part, they've they've

749
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: went and gotten him those pieces and so for Mike,

750
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 4: it's going to be the same thing.

751
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: It's like, and maybe it is.

752
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 4: Hey, last year we poured a lot of resources into

753
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: that defense, and in the last couple of years to

754
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 4: getting Dan Quinn exactly what he wanted, and maybe this offseason,

755
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: in this draft and this whatever is going to be Hey,

756
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 4: all right, Mike.

757
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: What what is it? What is it that you need?

758
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: Because we're gonna try our very best within reason to

759
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: give you the product that you need to perform at

760
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: your optimal level. And if you can't, you're address change.

761
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 6: So does it like I assume that that the routes, say,

762
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 6: for the for the receivers are the same. They're just

763
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 6: running this particular out more than they would have in

764
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 6: the past, or the or the same with the offensive line,

765
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: blocking arrant schemes or whatever. They're there. They know how

766
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 6: to do it. They're just maybe doing it this way

767
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 6: more than they would the repetition.

768
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: You know.

769
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 4: And I will say, because every every offense defense always

770
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 4: built to the thing that they want to do. Right,

771
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 4: So if I if I, if I want to have

772
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: a running game, I'm going to go draft and sign

773
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: mauling drafting uh blocking offensive lineman. If I'm going to

774
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: spread this thing out and make this thing throw it

775
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: all over the park. Then I want to go find

776
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: a route runners, you know, no matter that the size, however,

777
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 4: it is that you try to find those type of guys.

778
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: I think for Mike and what makes it a little

779
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: bit different in the West Coast offense, it is a

780
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 4: very quick kind of almost look at.

781
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: What Green Bay does to us.

782
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: Okay, right, Aaron Rodgers gets the balls out right now,

783
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 4: out right now. It's out right now, it's out right now.

784
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 4: It's all these quick timing things, and they'll have some

785
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 4: hot down the field, but it's everything is just.

786
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Boom boom boom bom boom boom boom.

787
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 4: It comes out, it comes out fast, it comes out quick.

788
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 4: It gets to the guy right now.

789
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 5: And so it's too that I've saw.

790
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: I thought I saw somewhere that the receivers it's it's

791
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: not so much stopping and curling and comebacks and all that.

792
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 5: It's more movement. Give it on the move, Give it

793
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: on the move.

794
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Like everything is on the move a lot.

795
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: I'm not say everything because I know y'all hold me

796
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 4: like you said everything look at them stop right here.

797
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me not say that.

798
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: A large majority of the stuff is you want to

799
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: keep guys on the move, and so that that's what

800
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 4: but that's where the timing comes from. It like when

801
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 4: Dak gets at that third drop, that third step, the

802
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: ball has to be ready to come out. That four

803
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: step ball got to come out, and guys have to

804
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 4: be in the window that they're supposed to be in.

805
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: So I think that is the biggest work preparation. What

806
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: word am I looking for?

807
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: Just the repetitions of that this offseason, whether it be

808
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: here or at the dackyard or wherever they go, they

809
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 4: gotta get that.

810
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Down because.

811
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: The key is for Dak Prescott as the quarterback to

812
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: be able to identify what the defense is and know

813
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: to steal Jason Garrett term know that you know that,

814
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 4: you know that, you know what you're looking at is correct,

815
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: because the ball's.

816
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: Coming out right now, quick decisions, it's.

817
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Coming out right now.

818
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: And so if you know, if if if a receiver Richard, Richard,

819
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: you and you know what I'm saying, he goes in,

820
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: he goes out, and the ball's going so he got

821
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 4: to come in and and and being at being that window,

822
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 4: he has to make sure he's at that depth. So

823
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 4: all that is the thing about the West Coast offense,

824
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 4: it's a precise running offense. When you hit it, check kiss,

825
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 4: would you? But when you miss it, when it's not clicking,

826
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 4: and we saw that looks like a lot from Green

827
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: Bay kind of like what you saw in Tampa Bay

828
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: earlier in the season. Like when it's not when it's

829
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: not clicking and you can't get guys to be where

830
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: they're supposed to be. That quarterback doesn't have time just

831
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 4: the way that it's developed, it doesn't have time to go,

832
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: oh oh okay, now you can't go back.

833
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 6: Would you have considered, although it's a different form of offense,

834
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 6: would you have considered the Cowboys offense last year precise?

835
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: Precise?

836
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: No?

837
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: No, no?

838
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 5: Can they get precise?

839
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: I hope.

840
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 4: That's a big and that's the place that we live

841
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 4: at with this Cowboys team. It's it's never a definitive answer,

842
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: it's always a hope. Maybe I like to believe. I'm

843
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: optimistic draft, we're drafting, we're developing, We're almost there next

844
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: years our year, like that's what it's been so like

845
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: even Brian Shott, I don't know what Brian shot Harma

846
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: is gonna be Nobody knows.

847
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: This is the part.

848
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: This is the this is the drug that Jerry and

849
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 4: the Joneses are able to bottle up, put the cowboy

850
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 4: blue tops on it, and sell it out to the people.

851
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: Because you're gonna be like, you're gonna be in three stages.

852
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 4: You're gonna be in hell no, You're gonna be in maybe,

853
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: and you're gonna be all in.

854
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 3: Right.

855
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 4: And so if I get a lot of people in

856
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: all in, and I get some to be maybe and

857
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: you're a fan, you're gonna tend to lean into absolutely yeah.

858
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: And then and when the season comes around, and then

859
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: those who are hell no.

860
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna get them to move to you know.

861
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: What if I if the Cowboys going sign one guy,

862
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 4: those people from hell no go, well wait a second now,

863
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 4: and they move into that baby area?

864
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 6: Are there players and that the hell no maybe all

865
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 6: in area or players you're all all in.

866
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: Like you try to be all in like especially now

867
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: like they're gonna try to come in and be all

868
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: in on this thing. And then if it doesn't work. Now,

869
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 4: if it works, we know how we know how winning works.

870
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: When you win winning, kids, all it's like, oh, this

871
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 4: is this is great. It's the best thing since slight spread.

872
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 4: And we can't wait. And you know, where's super at

873
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 4: Minnesota next year? What is it that I don't know, Hey,

874
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 4: we're going to super like it's that whatever, it doesn't

875
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 4: it's like, here we go. And then you'll start hearing

876
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 4: all the stuff and the like, you know, hey, we

877
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Speaker 4: gotta we gotta execute, you know, God got to do

878
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 4: their job.

879
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Speaker 1: We gotta be where we're supposed to be.

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Speaker 4: And then you'll hear the I promise I will not

881
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 4: throw any more interceptions, and I promise, and I'll be

882
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 4: the best quarterback that you can and I promise you'll

883
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 4: start hearing that talk again. So that's what we're at. Great,

884
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Speaker 4: all right, that's it for us.

885
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Speaker 6: You got yeah, I got can't city no because you

886
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 6: think they're winning, because you don't like they're better.

887
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: Yes.

888
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 5: Wow.

889
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Speaker 4: I am such a believer of the combination of Patrick Mahomes,

890
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Speaker 4: Eric Bnewy, and Andy Reid. I think Andy Reid will

891
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Speaker 4: go down as one of the best head coaches, play designers,

892
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: schematic scheme designers in NFL history.

893
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Speaker 1: And when you have.

894
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Speaker 4: A when you have an absolute alien four quarterback as

895
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Speaker 4: Ankle will be fine. In two weeks, He'll be fine.

896
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Speaker 4: I just and they just keep rolling new guys in there.

897
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Speaker 4: Just hey, give me the next four to three, guy.

898
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 4: Hey give you the next four three guy. Hey give

899
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Speaker 4: it the next four three guy.

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Speaker 6: I'll be rooting for Kansas City. I'm originally from I'll

901
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: be rooting for him. But I think Philly is the

902
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 6: better team up top to bottom. I think they have

903
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Speaker 6: a better defense. It's gonna be a it's not gonna

904
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Speaker 6: be as easy as maybe it was last week with

905
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Speaker 6: Kansas City. I think it's just gonna it's gonna be

906
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 6: a more physical game.

907
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: I think Kannas City got like I think Cincinnati is

908
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: the kryptonite to Case. They just just's some teams like

909
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 4: you know what, no matter what happened, like that team

910
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: just they just players like they just they got us.

911
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 4: They got us, we got them. It's just one of

912
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Speaker 4: those always.

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Speaker 1: Going to be.

914
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Speaker 4: I think you're going to see this team just get

915
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Speaker 4: back to that. So yeah, I do.

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Speaker 10: Hey Jesse, Yes, next year super Bowl, Yes, Las Vegas.

917
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Speaker 5: Start playing now, get that RV sponsorship going.

918
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Speaker 1: I might I've been never been there.

919
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Speaker 4: I might be at the Lions Stadium in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 4: I've always said, if you've been I've been to I've

921
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Speaker 4: been to Super Bowl when the Giants played in Arizona.

922
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Speaker 4: Oddly enough, I've been to that one, and so if

923
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Speaker 4: you've been to one super Bowl, I do have before

924
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Speaker 4: we go, I do have a question, because your own

925
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: music guy halftime of the Super Bowl? Are you all

926
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Speaker 4: in on this Rihanna thing?

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Speaker 6: I you know, I've rarely watched the halftime shows as well.

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Speaker 6: I will sometimes. I won a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember. They had the whole.

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Speaker 6: Stage when they did the kind of history of I

931
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Speaker 6: think Snoopers in there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was last year.

933
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Speaker 5: It was that last year.

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Speaker 10: That was.

935
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Speaker 6: With the Rams who won last the Rams last year.

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Speaker 6: That was a great show. Yeah, I mean, I'm always sure.

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Speaker 6: I'll check it out. I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I don't particularly care for the halftime show. It's not

939
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Speaker 4: my it's not my deal.

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Speaker 5: I don't stop down for it.

941
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Speaker 1: But but I do care.

942
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Speaker 4: To look at well, Rihanna, that's I had always helped

943
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Speaker 4: four a couple of minutes that so always helped. Always helps,

944
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Speaker 4: all right, man, cursor, awesome job.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother, thanks.

946
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Speaker 5: For dragging me through this.

947
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Speaker 4: We hope Nate is on the road and safe. He

948
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: hadn't sent us any pictures. He know, he know updatess

949
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 4: with pictures, but maybe he's not by hisself. So if

950
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 4: he's not by yourself, then he has someone to kind

951
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: of tell the story if he goes missing.

952
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Myself all right. For Kurt Daniels selling off for port somewhere, Yeah,

953
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: probably right by my house. For Kurt Daniels.

954
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: For Chris Beam in the back, for Audio Jazz, for

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Speaker 4: Brother Willie, for Bro William, for Brother will I am

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Speaker 4: Jesse Holly.

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Speaker 1: This is hang with the Boys. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: We out.

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