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Speaker 1: Becomes Fantasy best Friends Forever. Whoa hoo, whoo hoo, whoo hoo. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: for it. Jeff Edelman, welcome to the program. You gotta
Speaker 1: turn your mike on. We talked about this. You didn't
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me friends of the show. Yeah, long time,
Speaker 1: Thank you, all time listener, long time listeners. Second time appearance,
Speaker 1: the third time, something like that. I think your your
Speaker 1: headphones are on wrong as well. I'm keeping I'm keeping
Speaker 1: one year open. This is the look. This is what
Speaker 1: I hear from me. That's what that's the look you're
Speaker 1: going for? All right? Um, oh my god, you ak awkward?
Speaker 1: Uh show on the show. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're
Speaker 1: gonna answer a lot of questions that you have. As
Speaker 1: I said, we'll take your calls. UH certainly answer your
Speaker 1: your questions in the YouTube live chat as well. But
Speaker 1: Frank's been doing this entire video series on where you
Speaker 1: want a draft, you who you should take from picks
Speaker 1: one through twelve with the first eight rounds. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: I strongly recommend you go check him out. We're calling
Speaker 1: on the whiteboard series. Frank's doing every pick. I believe
Speaker 1: he's done like seven or eight of them already. The
Speaker 1: rest are coming next week when he gets back from
Speaker 1: his vacation. But without a Frank here, we had a
Speaker 1: different voice, and we actually in our jeffs in my
Speaker 1: home league and our only we did our own slotting.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was important to bring Jeff on
Speaker 1: today because our draft order officially came on last night.
Speaker 1: When you figure out, um, why Jeff chose the slot
Speaker 1: he did, um why I chose the slot that I did,
Speaker 1: and who we're looking for in that spot, so it
Speaker 1: should be fun. We also have a ton of headlines.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we get to as well. Um, Jeffy,
Speaker 1: iways weekend one. Thanks man, It was good. It was
Speaker 1: all right. I mean I'm a little sort today. I
Speaker 1: played my first eighteen round of the two thousand and
Speaker 1: eighteen summer really in August, which is not good. Very hot, alright,
Speaker 1: very busy, very hot. Yeah. We got out there after
Speaker 1: a nice day drinking Saturday, so nice. I'm struggling today.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. I'm sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1: I'm still happy to be here. I was at the show,
Speaker 1: I was on a baseball game in Philly, watched the
Speaker 1: Phillies yesterday. It was like a hundred degree heat myself,
Speaker 1: so we just pouring money out of my pockets for water,
Speaker 1: and it was disgusting. What do they get you for
Speaker 1: five bucks a pop? Five bucks pop? Five bucks pop?
Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's market right, blame them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Ultimately, but the water, it
Speaker 1: was necessary. Um. We actually we were just getting cups
Speaker 1: of ice and just pouring it on ourselves. It was
Speaker 1: that hot. You gotta get one of those spray fans.
Speaker 1: Greg that yadn't camp, but during we did, we bought
Speaker 1: that too. Okay, Okay, there you go, Jeff, I want
Speaker 1: to start with I want to start with some of
Speaker 1: the headlines. Corey talked about it, obviously, but it's the
Speaker 1: biggest story of the day, and that came yesterday with
Speaker 1: Cleveland finally getting rid of Corey Coleman. And it's only
Speaker 1: year three for Coleman, a former first round draft pick.
Speaker 1: And of course the second he leaves and I he went,
Speaker 1: organizations do that do this? They leak all these negative
Speaker 1: info about him, right like coming out of Barreler, he
Speaker 1: didn't know how to play wide receiver. We needed someone
Speaker 1: to that new no understands it more. And it was
Speaker 1: this typical like air raid offense problem that they obviously
Speaker 1: blame Corey Coleman. Four. Of course they're not blaming the
Speaker 1: coaching staff. He's won one game in the last two years.
Speaker 1: They're not blaming the coaching staff for like trying to
Speaker 1: teach this kid who you drafted to be a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no no, no, no, none of that happens.
Speaker 1: It's Corey Coleman couldn't understand it. He was obviously significantly
Speaker 1: impacted by injuries. He broke his hand two years in
Speaker 1: a row, and now goes to Buffalo who was in
Speaker 1: desperate need of a wide receiver. They had Kelvin Benjamin,
Speaker 1: they have z A. Jones, who struggled in his own
Speaker 1: right in his workie year, and now they have Corey Coleman.
Speaker 1: Let me just start from the Coleman side, and then
Speaker 1: we'll move over um to the Cleveland side of things.
Speaker 1: But with Corey Coleman in Buffalo, how does his upgrade
Speaker 1: his value? Well, first of all, Corey Coleman has shown
Speaker 1: flashes throughout his entire career. Think he's just been riddled
Speaker 1: by injuries. And just to go back, you don't spend
Speaker 1: the first round pick on a receiver and you don't
Speaker 1: put him through the route tree during his evaluation. Give
Speaker 1: me a break. He They knew his limitations going into
Speaker 1: the season. There was a knock on him going into
Speaker 1: the draft because of that, because of the air raide
Speaker 1: offense and the volume of balls that got thrown to him.
Speaker 1: But don't I mean, let's not knock Coleman for that.
Speaker 1: And I think Buffalo did a great job sending a
Speaker 1: conditional pick. It's nothing basically, I mean at the tal
Speaker 1: end of his rookie contract, this is his basically walk
Speaker 1: year for him to get paid. So I think it's
Speaker 1: a great pick up for Buffalo in terms of his
Speaker 1: fantasy value. I mean a lot of people were high
Speaker 1: on Coleman with the Josh Gordon news, but I think
Speaker 1: that his stock actually rises going to Buffalo, even though
Speaker 1: it will be cold weather, harder to catch balls. Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: it could be, could be, but um yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there's a limitation there. But I think he'll get more volume.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get Sammy Watkins in a second. It's a natural transition.
Speaker 1: But Sammy Watkins obviously went over to Los Angeles in
Speaker 1: the middle of training camp, actually farther um in the
Speaker 1: training camp. Right right after the first or second preseason game,
Speaker 1: he showed off and then they traded my way to
Speaker 1: l A. This is the second wide receiver now Buffalo
Speaker 1: is kind of acquiring or training away in the middle
Speaker 1: of training camp. Like he's not walking in studying the
Speaker 1: playbook for months. How hard is it gonna be for
Speaker 1: Corey Colin to understand Ryan Dables playbook in Buffalo? See,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I want to put too much stock into that. Greg.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's more simplistic than you think
Speaker 1: from a receiver perspective, especially playing on the outside. It's
Speaker 1: it's really only simple routes and it's just a language thing. Um,
Speaker 1: I I really wouldn't. It's not a quarterback. It's not
Speaker 1: somebody that's playing on the interior where there's a lot
Speaker 1: of blocking assignments. It's it's it's just your route and
Speaker 1: whether you block on a play. It's really not that complex.
Speaker 1: And that's what I I'm bothered by what Cleveland had
Speaker 1: to say, not only because as they let the Eagles
Speaker 1: take once with that pick, but because they just trash
Speaker 1: him on the way out. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: really typical Cleveland what it is. Now, speaking of Cleveland,
Speaker 1: they get rid of Corey Coleman. Josh Gordon currently nowhere
Speaker 1: to be found. You've heard the does Bryant rumors, which
Speaker 1: I feel a probably started by Dez Bryant and his
Speaker 1: agent and every reporter, schefter and the rappaport. They'd come
Speaker 1: out and been like, hey, yeah, there's injest, but like
Speaker 1: it's it's not really serious. So how interested does this
Speaker 1: make you? And a guy like Jarvis Landry who going
Speaker 1: into draft season, people who were really high on Jarvis Landry,
Speaker 1: they thought Josh Gordon has the potential despite where he
Speaker 1: was going to be a wide receiver one Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: play a little bit the outside in Cleveland, that where
Speaker 1: you're used to in the slot. Everyone counts Jarvis Landry
Speaker 1: out every year. It only does is put up Barker's
Speaker 1: numbers every year. Can you do it again now that
Speaker 1: he's in Cleveland without Corey Coleman, Right, I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: too much stock into them saying that Jarvis Lander is
Speaker 1: gonna play the outside. He's not gonna change what he's
Speaker 1: done to make him successful over the course of his career.
Speaker 1: He is to be a possession receiver, which sounds ridiculous
Speaker 1: for a guy with his talent level, but he is.
Speaker 1: He has one of the best hands in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're going to have him going across the middle on
Speaker 1: drag routes. Screen routes is gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: um bubble screens, especially if if Mayfield gets the nod
Speaker 1: let's say four week five. I think they're gonna try
Speaker 1: to get him comfortable, like getting the ball to Jarvis Lander.
Speaker 1: I think him and Josh Gordon were two totally different
Speaker 1: wide receivers. And the only reason that I'm higher on
Speaker 1: Josh Cordon today than I am yesterday is because of
Speaker 1: the news of Corey Coleman and the fact that they're
Speaker 1: going to reinstate him, so he doesn't lose a year
Speaker 1: and free agency. Sure, are you buying the Anterno callaway thing? Okay?
Speaker 1: Leaving that, I mean, yeah, it's it's simple. I mean
Speaker 1: you need to prove it to be an NFL player,
Speaker 1: all right, fair enough, Um, let me get to Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins last year traded in the middle of the season
Speaker 1: out to l A as a as a really good
Speaker 1: year basically on one play right like the cut the
Speaker 1: cut slant from the one yard line which he scored
Speaker 1: a tot of touchdowns on. It wasn't the year I
Speaker 1: think many people expected out of Sammy Watkins, but it
Speaker 1: was a good year, don the less and got him paid.
Speaker 1: Most importantly, out in Kansas City, you look at air
Speaker 1: rate offenses. That's what you see now in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: With a ton of weapons for Patrick Mahomes a quarterback
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt behind him, and then the wide receivers of
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and now Sammy Watkins. The question becomes, given
Speaker 1: their draft status, Tyreek Hill going earlier than Sammy Watkins,
Speaker 1: which one of those wide receivers would you rather have?
Speaker 1: Rather have tire Hill? For a number of reasons. One, um,
Speaker 1: he's used to the offense and They like to get
Speaker 1: him involved no matter what. Different quarterback though entirely different. Understood,
Speaker 1: Mahomes does like that stretch the ball. He's They basically
Speaker 1: picked my Homes because he has a better armed than
Speaker 1: Knox Smith. So it's not like Tyreek Hill was eating
Speaker 1: up balls like over the middle. It's his how many
Speaker 1: touchdowns did he score on over a thirty yard place?
Speaker 1: I feel like half of his I don't know the
Speaker 1: exact stat but it's basically half of his touchdowns come
Speaker 1: off of long plays. And that's what they chose Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes over Steady Alex Smith four. So that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a primary reason. But watkins't have that ability. Sure,
Speaker 1: but the injury history and I mean the rapport with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, I'm leaving Tyree Kill and that's fine.
Speaker 1: But again, you can leave in Tyreek Hill to like
Speaker 1: him more than Sammy Watkins, but you have to take
Speaker 1: in draft costs as well. I say, Watkins doesn't cost
Speaker 1: you nearly what Tyreek Hill does. You can get Watkins
Speaker 1: probably two rounds later. Understood, But Greg, we have to
Speaker 1: go back to a whole new offensive playbook. Let's be real,
Speaker 1: it's Andy Reid he knows what to do with his
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Go back to the Jerry Macklin to Shawn Jacks.
Speaker 1: But Tyreek Hills not well, Tyree Hills not like Jerry Macklin. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he's much more like Sean Jackson. And I get it.
Speaker 1: You want the ball in hills hands. You want him
Speaker 1: to be able to make plays. That's literally what you
Speaker 1: have him before. But again, you're confident taking Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: on the two three swing, which is where he's going. Essentially,
Speaker 1: you're confident taking him there. He could be your wide
Speaker 1: receiver one. You want to be my wide receiver one.
Speaker 1: Let's I mean those we'll get through the rankings. But
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be my wide receiver one. But I'm not
Speaker 1: taking an early round pick on Sammy Watkins. I see
Speaker 1: the first picks have to be roster ball players the
Speaker 1: entire season. That's the way I dropped. You think Sammy
Speaker 1: Walkins be roster ball all season long. I think that
Speaker 1: there's a chance, with my um dropping history of players
Speaker 1: and my short fuse that he can be dropped on
Speaker 1: my team easily if he questionable on a Thursday night
Speaker 1: MRS practice, on a Friday, Cole practice, now in training.
Speaker 1: Can I can't do it's a kick injury. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you don't know. But like obviously we played, we played
Speaker 1: fantasy people for a long time together. You've obviously been
Speaker 1: known to take some chances on guys. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: ask this. Then, you don't want Sammy Watkins because of
Speaker 1: the questionable nature of his injuries and how he literally
Speaker 1: every week could be questionable. How do you take suspended
Speaker 1: guys in new account they're not playing the first four weeks.
Speaker 1: You know that Juliet mund mark Ingram Stash is different
Speaker 1: than a guy that's injury rid of Greg. Come on,
Speaker 1: we know the differences. I understand that we have bench
Speaker 1: spots for a certain reason. You obviously bench walks who
Speaker 1: could explode. Okay, but I'm not spending an early round
Speaker 1: pick on a guy who's already the third fourth person
Speaker 1: in his offense that I'm not. I'm not choosing between
Speaker 1: Sammy Walkings and somebody else. I'll take somebody with the
Speaker 1: high ceiling that I know that is Sammy Watkins. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: back in the Buffalo days where his hands were amazing
Speaker 1: and he scored you know, on Darrell Reevas twice. But Greg,
Speaker 1: those days are over and hold on, you know how
Speaker 1: old he is, Like you're saying, but you're there, dudes
Speaker 1: only giving him credit. A Sean McVeigh made him look
Speaker 1: good on three slants. Dude is eight months older than
Speaker 1: Tyree Kill. For the record, that's actually wild. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: eight months out of tread on the tire. Absolutely, He's
Speaker 1: been around a long time, but he hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to consistently stay healthy. He was in the same draft
Speaker 1: as Mike Evans as Odell Becka, which I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people forget Yea and Quincy Awesome. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to throw that in there. I appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: get it. It wasn't a strong year for him last year.
Speaker 1: But Andy reading the Chiefs bringing in for a reason
Speaker 1: they're they're giving. What they're doing is surrounding the homes
Speaker 1: with weapons. I understand the understood. Yeah, I got what
Speaker 1: they're trying to do with the offense. But you asked
Speaker 1: me Tiree Killer, Sammy Watkins, and I'm comfortable spending a
Speaker 1: pick on Tyre Killer. Tyry Kills incredible. You just you're
Speaker 1: not comfortable making him your Ember one receiver, right, making
Speaker 1: a number two when we play PPR, Greg, I need
Speaker 1: a guy that's like half pint PPR. It's difference, is it? Though?
Speaker 1: It comes when it comes to Tyreek Hill. His value
Speaker 1: is in the best ball leagues where you can deal
Speaker 1: with the higher lower you know games, I'm I need
Speaker 1: floors of you know, my number one wide receiver. Right,
Speaker 1: So if you're not comfortable with him as you're one,
Speaker 1: are you comfortable with him? Is it too? Okay? Interesting?
Speaker 1: Because I wanna look, I'm gonna look. I'm going to
Speaker 1: Fantasy pros right now looking at Tyreek Hills ADP, which
Speaker 1: currently sits at thirty one, so he's going more middle
Speaker 1: of the third round. Yeah, so you know I like
Speaker 1: to look at it. It's tears, right, Greg. So, so
Speaker 1: if we're looking at number one receivers on a team,
Speaker 1: there's zero percent chance everybody in the league we'll grab
Speaker 1: a receiver before I do. But sure that's their second
Speaker 1: pick will guarantee to be a receiver. Right, you will
Speaker 1: go here are number one. You will go running back,
Speaker 1: running back, wide receiver. I never go running back running back.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have in the history of my
Speaker 1: fantasy career. Al Right, So let's let's go through number
Speaker 1: one receivers. I'd be fine with a B. Nuke, Julio
Speaker 1: O B J. Michael Thomas obviously, Keenan Allen a little
Speaker 1: bit of injury history, but he's amazing in our format.
Speaker 1: A J. Green speaks for himself. Davanta Adams a little
Speaker 1: bit of a question mark, but he has I am
Speaker 1: Rogers all year, Um, Mike Evans, Ellen and Larry. That's
Speaker 1: the tier. That's that's your tire. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's everybody's just not my tear friend. That's that's
Speaker 1: wide receiver ones. In my opinion, what what player on
Speaker 1: that list isn't guaranteed to catch four or five balls
Speaker 1: a game or get at least eight targets. Theoretically, I agree,
Speaker 1: I I do. But Tyree Hills, like all those guys,
Speaker 1: Feelings the closest, but all those guys are going ahead
Speaker 1: of Tyreek Kill. I think Feelings gets bumped in our
Speaker 1: league because of the PPR aspect. Half point. Let me
Speaker 1: give you a either or when it comes to Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 1: Did rather have Tyreek Hill or Doug Baldwin, especially given
Speaker 1: his injury. There's really not a lot of skill position
Speaker 1: players on Seattle, but he's injured. I really like Doug Balblood.
Speaker 1: He's injured, I know, but I still like him. That's
Speaker 1: that stash where he's not an injury guy, right, you
Speaker 1: just it's a camp thing. He's probably just like a
Speaker 1: hamstring nagging will be off. It's a coordinator there as well.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried much about that. Russell Shotneimer is a
Speaker 1: terrible offensive coordinator. Russell Wilson's incredible. He'll he'll bump his
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill or t Y Hilton, Tyree kill, Tyry Killer,
Speaker 1: Stefon Digs, Tyree kill, Tyreek Hill or Amari Cooper. Are
Speaker 1: you kill? Okay? Alright, so you are? It does sound
Speaker 1: like comparatively to some of these other wide receivers, you're
Speaker 1: prettyhigh on him. I mean he's he's a top basically
Speaker 1: what you're telling me, he's top fifteen wide receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if you go after he's high end wide receiver too.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, right, she like him? Yeah? How can
Speaker 1: you not? There is there's a lot of um there's
Speaker 1: all the reasons not to like him. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: look at thistency that's why. But Greg, if you take
Speaker 1: boring players the whole time, you've gotta have you gotta
Speaker 1: have some boom er bust in your lineup. You don't.
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want, you don't have to.
Speaker 1: There's many ways to win, is there? Yes, show me
Speaker 1: your team that didn't have a boomer bus player showing
Speaker 1: a championship. I don't have that in front of me. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I don't have an example. But there's plenty of ways.
Speaker 1: Some of us are prepared for the show. Greig Oh
Speaker 1: Kid comes in here for eighteen minutes. He starts talking trash. Well,
Speaker 1: you told me I don't win a job here, so
Speaker 1: I'm trying my best. I appreciate that. Um, what's on
Speaker 1: the phones before we hit the break? Three? Six, seven nine?
Speaker 1: That's gonna shown in New York? What's up Sean? We
Speaker 1: have Sean? Sean? Do we have Sean? Now? We have?
Speaker 1: What's up Sean? Here? I'm here. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: ask a question about the wide receivers. I know on
Speaker 1: New England everybody's banged up, Edelman, suspended, gronked injuries history
Speaker 1: and the offensive one is terrible. Do you think that
Speaker 1: there's a chance that Tom Brady falls off this year?
Speaker 1: Especially after ye I will never discount Tom Brady in
Speaker 1: any season ever, Um, I don't. First of all, Eric
Speaker 1: Decker is probably the best sleeper pick you can have
Speaker 1: this season. But I don't look at Gronk as a
Speaker 1: tight end. I look at him as Brady's favorite receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course he has the designation and fantasy,
Speaker 1: but I don't see him dropping off. He's he throws
Speaker 1: five six seven yard passes, complete six of his throws
Speaker 1: every year. We'll talk more about Eric Jacker, more about
Speaker 1: what's going on in England and the situation with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady when we come back Fantasy Best Friends Forever Fantasy
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Speaker 1: Live with You is Jeff Edelmen filling in for Frankie today,
Speaker 1: So we'll be a f all week because they're not
Speaker 1: here Mike. Mike's gone forever and Frank's not vacation, so
Speaker 1: it's just me and so it's disappointed. Greg. Are you
Speaker 1: coming back on Thursday? I'd like to if I'm invited
Speaker 1: to see how the take Well, forty more minutes ago,
Speaker 1: we'll say all right, all right, um, so before we
Speaker 1: hit the break, we're all gonna call her about the
Speaker 1: Patriots in their wide receiver situation. And you said a
Speaker 1: little really interesting. You said that Eric Taker is one
Speaker 1: of the best sleepers out there right now. He is
Speaker 1: somebody that you absolutely love. Why well, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm the most biased uh A f C East fan
Speaker 1: in the world. And first of all, he asked us
Speaker 1: about Brady dropping off. He didn't ask us about the
Speaker 1: receiving corpse per se. So that's why I brought Gronk
Speaker 1: back into it. And if he's healthy, Tom Brady is
Speaker 1: gonna go. I mean, that's just how it works with
Speaker 1: that Patriots offense. And I mean I think they'll use
Speaker 1: the backs a lot more this year, you know, with
Speaker 1: Burkehead and um Sonny Michelle. But just in terms of
Speaker 1: how Brady operates the offense, I think it's it's really
Speaker 1: plug and play with any of the receivers so long
Speaker 1: as they can grasp what they're trying to do, which
Speaker 1: is why Chris Hogan was so good for them for
Speaker 1: a short period of time. Well it was longer than
Speaker 1: a short period of times when he was healthy. Whenever
Speaker 1: he was out there, he was good. And Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: somebody that Frank and I both love this year, and
Speaker 1: he's flying up draft boards. But you're the one. But
Speaker 1: if you love Eric Decker, which is how you do,
Speaker 1: and he's not costing you anything right now in drafts,
Speaker 1: do you not like Chris Hogan as much as other
Speaker 1: people do. No, I think it's just more of a
Speaker 1: value thing. So if you look at you know, of
Speaker 1: course the number one receiver on the Patriots is gonna
Speaker 1: go earlier in drafts than number three or number four.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they cut Malcolm Mitchell today just
Speaker 1: shows that he's not healthy. Yeah, but I mean he
Speaker 1: wanted super Bowl in New England. I guess what have
Speaker 1: you done for me lately? But just the fact that
Speaker 1: they saw Eric Decker on the workout is okay, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be our guy now. Well, Decker on the depth
Speaker 1: chart released, and you know Belichick and McDaniels. McDaniels are
Speaker 1: going to play games the death chart already ahead of
Speaker 1: Kenny britt on the depth chart, which they kind of
Speaker 1: found interesting. Um, but you have Chris Hogan who's going
Speaker 1: to play the Chris Hogan role, and I think there's
Speaker 1: every reason to like him. I'm gonna you ask you
Speaker 1: what you think about him in a second or where
Speaker 1: he should go in a second. But immediately before the
Speaker 1: show here talking about Cordarrel Patterson there, I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot that guy's team. Forgot he's in the team.
Speaker 1: Forget Kenny Britts on the team. You're talking about gron
Speaker 1: being Radish favorite receiver, and that's true. Obviously we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to Chris Hogan in his second is there anyone
Speaker 1: else that you like? What Patriot? You want? You like Decker,
Speaker 1: but he didn't cost you anything. Is there anything anyone
Speaker 1: any other page treat you want to go out and get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rex Burkett will be on every single one of my teams,
Speaker 1: just like he was last year. She lays a perfect
Speaker 1: plug and play r B two. I'll get the catches
Speaker 1: that he needs to catch, You'll get the red zone work,
Speaker 1: just because Belichick loves him. So Burke had somebody that
Speaker 1: you just believe that, Hey, I can start a draft
Speaker 1: with a running back, wide receiver, whatever, and then fill
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver because you know
Speaker 1: you can get a guy like burked Ate. Yeah, Birkhead's
Speaker 1: like my fifth round pick where it's basically just he
Speaker 1: goes in that slot and he may not be my
Speaker 1: my best running back come the end of the year
Speaker 1: with all the pickups and stuff, but he's so dependable
Speaker 1: every week you'll be able to pleas you say, plug
Speaker 1: and play him at some point. Okay, where are you
Speaker 1: taking Chris Hogan? He's shot off to the events. The
Speaker 1: early tough question. I I don't think his floor is
Speaker 1: what everybody thinks it is. I mean, I love Chris Hogan,
Speaker 1: Me and uh Me and the Fantasy exect got into
Speaker 1: it a couple of Super Bowls of vill when I
Speaker 1: said he was gonna have eleven catches and he had
Speaker 1: what seven and a couple of touchdowns and almost one MVP.
Speaker 1: You guys got into it last year as well about
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, if I remember correctly, you called You called Corey,
Speaker 1: Corey and I we call into the show the Roadbo Experts,
Speaker 1: and Corey and I laughed at you and Hoogan was
Speaker 1: great because I feel like every offseason there's this vendetta
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Obviously they cheat, they find a way
Speaker 1: to to get everything done that they want to. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the look, I'm not drafting Chris
Speaker 1: Hogan for the first four weeks of the season. I
Speaker 1: know Edelman will be back. I know he'll be Brady's guy,
Speaker 1: and I believe that much in Decker where who knows
Speaker 1: what the what the at the wide receiver snap council
Speaker 1: become weeks seven, eight, and nine, who knows who knows? Indeed,
Speaker 1: um you mentioned Rex Burkhead. And it's funny because the
Speaker 1: Patriots running backs in general. Last year, at a certain
Speaker 1: point all season, every one of them are ownable. At
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, it was Mike Gillessly who
Speaker 1: was actually scoring touchdowns, and then it became Rex burkehead
Speaker 1: Burke gets hurt, they go to the James White and
Speaker 1: they just kept throwing off the James White. And then
Speaker 1: Dean Lewis, who was fourth string coming of the year,
Speaker 1: became somebody you had to start every week. Dean Lewis
Speaker 1: lasted all year in that position. Lewis now heads to Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Are you still in on Dean Lewis. I mean, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm as much of a believer in that Tennessee offense
Speaker 1: is a lot of other people, and I don't like
Speaker 1: the time share there, and I'm not necessarily going out
Speaker 1: and getting him, But I think there's there's still value
Speaker 1: in Dean Lewis. Is there a running back going back
Speaker 1: to New England for a second, is there a running
Speaker 1: back in New England not named rex Berg that you
Speaker 1: would draft, including Sonny Michelle. I would probably take a
Speaker 1: flyer on Michelle only because the Patriots don't, you know,
Speaker 1: take a first round pick and not utilize that player. Well,
Speaker 1: we people have brought that up before and then, like
Speaker 1: Lawrence Moroni was also a first round pick and they
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily utilize in his rookie year. I mean, Lawrence
Speaker 1: Moroni was. I mean, he had thousand yard seasons for
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I understand that, but he spit in his
Speaker 1: rookie year. He wasn't. Okay, maybe it took him longer
Speaker 1: to get up to speed, sure, but it could. Sonny
Speaker 1: Michelle being out for a lot of training can have
Speaker 1: the same effect. And he has fumbling issues as well, exactly,
Speaker 1: and that's going to kill him, kill you in a
Speaker 1: Belichick offense. Okay, So you're not probably. I just think
Speaker 1: he's one of the highest skill players on the Patriots offense.
Speaker 1: Eight four four eight four three six seven nine eight
Speaker 1: four four three six seven nine. Let me get a
Speaker 1: logan and mission. What's up? Logan? Not that much, guys,
Speaker 1: how's it going? Appreciate the call it's going on? Um?
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm the commissioner of my home league
Speaker 1: with my friends, and we have a ten team PPR league,
Speaker 1: and I already know my draft spot, which is gonna
Speaker 1: be six. Um. This is kind of a specific question,
Speaker 1: but I'm planning on taking Sae Kwon Barkley. I just
Speaker 1: like him the most better. I think it's between him
Speaker 1: and Tamara for me, um and based on the personalities
Speaker 1: of the people drafting after me. I know that this
Speaker 1: is kind of a long shot, but I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that Odell could fall back to me.
Speaker 1: Would you guys like, uh, not go with that? And
Speaker 1: would you guys would not take Odell and take Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley together because it's the same offense, or how do
Speaker 1: you guys feel about that? So it's a common question
Speaker 1: we get, right, do you take take the best player
Speaker 1: available and you come back around the same offense? Do
Speaker 1: you do it again? I know Jeffer Ali that we
Speaker 1: played together a couple of years ago. Um, the person
Speaker 1: in our championship had does Brian and the DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: and it we're doubt very very fine. And then a
Speaker 1: year later I think, you know, honestly, he did the
Speaker 1: same thing. He didn't work out because those players didn't
Speaker 1: work out, but the offense was good enough to sustain Walter,
Speaker 1: Marco and Dees. The real question is for Logan, is
Speaker 1: the Giants offense good enough to Fantasy produced two first
Speaker 1: round picks that you can that most people won't have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get both. But is it doesn't make sense?
Speaker 1: Isn't worth it? The draft stake wanted O'Dell together if
Speaker 1: you can. You're asking me, well, that's you're the only
Speaker 1: person you know, all right, all right? Um? Well, from
Speaker 1: a personality perspective, I like to diversify. But you can't
Speaker 1: blame somebody for taking the best player available. And this
Speaker 1: guy must be from my guess is Washington under England
Speaker 1: where you know nobody likes the giants down there. Um,
Speaker 1: And if he can get Odell Beckham in the middle
Speaker 1: of the second on the PPR league, you have to
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, So I go case by case. Personally,
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Speaker 1: What's out Jonathan, Hey, how's it going going well? Man?
Speaker 1: What's on? Right? And again? What is your question? Sir ah? Yes,
Speaker 1: So I'm as a one keeper PPR league with my family,
Speaker 1: this family league, and my question is I'm keeping David
Speaker 1: Johnson in the first round as the ninth overall take.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering do I go wide receiver heavy after that
Speaker 1: or do I think it would never study running back
Speaker 1: in the second round. So I think the answer is
Speaker 1: is obvious. It's probably not what you want to hear,
Speaker 1: but you just think the best player available. I mean
Speaker 1: having David Johnson at nine about five consensus spots four
Speaker 1: or five away from where he's projected to go. It's helpful.
Speaker 1: I don't think it totally changes your your draft, but
Speaker 1: I think it's helpful, and I think you would take
Speaker 1: the best player available, UM at that spot, whether it's
Speaker 1: a running back or it's the wide receiver. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't want you to overthink this, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to family and makes it seem like it's easier to
Speaker 1: grab people from free agency, and in that case, I
Speaker 1: think running backs are easier to grab. So you're already
Speaker 1: starting with David Johnson in a great traft position. I
Speaker 1: would go wide receiver heavy. Again, this is Lance Davis
Speaker 1: asks halfway PDR. Who do you like more, DeVante Freeman
Speaker 1: or Christian McCaffrey. I'm a big Christian McCaffrey fan. They
Speaker 1: already told him that he wanted they wanted to touch
Speaker 1: the ball three What is it three times? Are you
Speaker 1: buying that we had? We did a whole show on this.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think they're gonna try to give
Speaker 1: Cam as much help as he can, you know, dumping
Speaker 1: the ball off because I I don't think they want
Speaker 1: him to take the hits this year. UM, So I
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey like over Devonte Freeman. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost a Tevin Coleman guy in that offense.
Speaker 1: I think he he makes our offense go. I think
Speaker 1: DeVante Freeman was more like he was. He scored a
Speaker 1: ton of rushing touchdown so he got bumped up. But
Speaker 1: I like Tevin Coleman there interesting, I'm DeVante Freeman guy.
Speaker 1: I would choose Freeman over McCaffrey. I know he did
Speaker 1: a whole show on this, but who could be who
Speaker 1: has the next potential to be the most likely the
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley of uh and we're kind of con sentence
Speaker 1: on a Freeman. I like McCaffrey. But the problem is,
Speaker 1: Jeffy you you know McCaffrey is not gonna get a
Speaker 1: single goal I carry. He had zero last years? Is
Speaker 1: it not? One? Greg? The days of having a Jerome
Speaker 1: Bettis on your fantasy team are over. It's not you
Speaker 1: have Marshawn Lynch this year, you would not be on
Speaker 1: any of my TA Why he's good last year and
Speaker 1: he's go the goal line back again? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: I need I need the carries I need to touch
Speaker 1: much prefer Christian McCaffrey. Yes, you could have Overli it's
Speaker 1: a five round difference. Greg. The rushing touch on on
Speaker 1: that team are scored by Cam Newton. When they get
Speaker 1: into that big package, that happens very rare. They like
Speaker 1: to spread it out. They like to get the linebackers
Speaker 1: out of coverage, out into coverage. I'm saying they play
Speaker 1: shotgun all the time. Christian McCaffrey is on the field
Speaker 1: for those plays, no doubt about it. But why does
Speaker 1: it have to be a carry? Greg? Three yard catches,
Speaker 1: bubble screen catches are runs. Now, you know what you
Speaker 1: told me in just twenty seconds ago, that Cam Newton
Speaker 1: gets all the carries from the big package, that Jonathan
Speaker 1: Stewart was fourth in the NFL and goaling carriages last year.
Speaker 1: How many goaline cards did Carolina Carolina have as an
Speaker 1: offense last year. That's like, I don't have that in
Speaker 1: front of me. All I could tell you is that
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart was fourth in the NFL and goaling carriers. Okay,
Speaker 1: who's taking over that role for Carolina this year? C J. Anderson,
Speaker 1: you wanted me to say, Christi McCaffrey. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so I always go back. I was watching highlights of
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl back when um Reggie Bush and who who? Okay,
Speaker 1: and they had Reddie Bush on the sidelines. Every coach
Speaker 1: saw that play. They're never gonna let their good skipe positions.
Speaker 1: But they I'm telling you, they don't let the linebackers
Speaker 1: stack the box against Cam Newton anymore. It's a different NFL,
Speaker 1: it is. I agree, And I love Christian McCaffrey. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I don't. I just like DeVante
Speaker 1: Freeman more because I think he has ability to do everything. Well, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get that. I got that point about DeVonta Freeman
Speaker 1: and how he's gonna get carries, and he may get
Speaker 1: goal line carries. But I'm not going to choose between
Speaker 1: the two because DeVante Freeman may get a one yard touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Um Jeremy asked us in our YouTube chat.
Speaker 1: Pick one of these three your boy Larry Fitzgerald, t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton or Jiuji. I guess it's easy. Doesn't matter
Speaker 1: to you quarterback? No, okay, I mean he's he's all reliable.
Speaker 1: He's literally the greatest Fantasy player of all time in
Speaker 1: my in my lifetime, he's top ten every year we're
Speaker 1: look at his wide receiver finishes every single season the
Speaker 1: tell and it's probably better so Sean Alexander and Priest Holmes. Okay,
Speaker 1: but but Damian Thomas, it was a good one. How
Speaker 1: was at that jack and that he scored three touchdowns?
Speaker 1: It was terrible? Every buddy strong style Ninja asks, well me,
Speaker 1: but I'll ask it to you. Um, would you like
Speaker 1: a start of Melvin Gorgy Like we talked about Shaqwon
Speaker 1: Barkley and Odell what if he did with the charges? Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are in on their offense this year.
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon, Keenan Allen. I'm a big Melvin Gordon fan. Um,
Speaker 1: I think he gets the volume no matter what. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's any room for concern there. And I've
Speaker 1: always loved Keenan Allen. I think Keenan Allen so long
Speaker 1: that's the south is one of the top ten receivers
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So that's an offense you're comfortable doing
Speaker 1: that with? That was I mean, that was something that
Speaker 1: you id like to diversify. But again, Greg, best player
Speaker 1: available is number one on my list. All Right. Eddie
Speaker 1: asked a really interesting question for you. I know you're
Speaker 1: a college football fan, sure. Yeahoo getting into college football?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna play college football? You play fantasy football
Speaker 1: college football? Have I have not done a fantasy football
Speaker 1: college football? The brand new? So I actually I have
Speaker 1: a lead? Would you like to be in it? All? Right?
Speaker 1: How do they reduce? Like? I guess you can pick
Speaker 1: up Honestly, I haven't. I haven't actually looked at it yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to know how it works before I play.
Speaker 1: Like you just signed up, because you can have a
Speaker 1: player from like University of Louisville Lafayette that it's like
Speaker 1: three three thousand all purpose yards, that's probably who you
Speaker 1: should have. Like, I don't know all of those guys either.
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn about it. That's that's what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Brian asks Kareem Hunt, Dalvin Cook or Leonard four Nette
Speaker 1: for you. So you said the thing about who's going
Speaker 1: to be this year's Um, you're saying Dalvin Cook, I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's Kareem Hunt. So I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair. I think Kareem Hunt already is
Speaker 1: going in the first round. It like Ted Gurley wasn't
Speaker 1: last year, even though he happened too. But mostly is
Speaker 1: how Gurley went in the second. But I think people
Speaker 1: are are down in kaream Hunt because he had those
Speaker 1: you know, the beginning splash into the season and sort
Speaker 1: of fell off. I think Andy Reid is gonna know that,
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna help out Patrick Mahomes a
Speaker 1: lot more this year. I mean, look, Dalvin Cook, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think the A C L surgeries now, with the
Speaker 1: little incision that they do, I don't think it's that
Speaker 1: big of a deal that want to concern me at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just very high on cream Hunt this year. I
Speaker 1: completely agree one present. I love cream Hunt this year.
Speaker 1: Final question before we hit the break and went in
Speaker 1: the slotting afterwards. Um, in the fifth round, I mentioned
Speaker 1: that was a spot for Sammy, that was a potentially
Speaker 1: spot for Sammy Watkins. Who were some other receivers going
Speaker 1: by there? We were asked by DFS Domination Uh, Devin
Speaker 1: de Funchs and Emmanuel Sanders rite those three for me. Funches, Sanders, Watkins. Boy, Um,
Speaker 1: you convinced me on Watkins, Greg. I do like Sanders,
Speaker 1: not to the extent that I like Watkins just because
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City high Sanders is safe that you
Speaker 1: talk about safety. I know you don't like boring dudes.
Speaker 1: He's boring but safe. I'd probably put Walkins up there. Okay,
Speaker 1: Watkins Sanders, it's fair upside wise, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about where we would take players,
Speaker 1: what rounds, and whatnot, but we chose our slots and
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Speaker 1: S Y. All right, Jeffie, you want to address somebody
Speaker 1: in our YouTube check, Yeah, your boy, sure amount. There
Speaker 1: is chirping me saying that Hyreek Hill and they're not
Speaker 1: gonna reet in talking at the same times. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert here. Hyreek Hill is gonna blow up,
Speaker 1: but how can Hunt do the same. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: at last year's end of season scoring dream Hunt ended
Speaker 1: up as the fourth and half on PVR and a
Speaker 1: half point PR. The fourth skill position player, Tyree Hill
Speaker 1: was fifteen. There you go, Okay, to help Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: are going to run the ball as long as and
Speaker 1: you read sticks with it fair enough. That's Brian Westbrook,
Speaker 1: Yes exactly. But the most friendly thing to a quarterback
Speaker 1: is the deep ball, getting the defense to sag a
Speaker 1: little bit. You ever see single high safety where they
Speaker 1: play thirty yards off the pall because the quarterback has
Speaker 1: a good arm. Think about how much that can change
Speaker 1: the offense. That'll help both of them. So there's the
Speaker 1: answer to that question. All right, Um, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get in the slot. Where should you slot? If you
Speaker 1: had your choice of where to pick, where would you go?
Speaker 1: So in our home league, Jeff, we had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to slot this year for the second time in three years.
Speaker 1: And where what choice did you have? What? What number
Speaker 1: of choice were you? So I was the slick sixth
Speaker 1: slot option? Okay? What were your ideally? Where did you
Speaker 1: want to be? I wanted to be one through five
Speaker 1: at some not worked that very poorly, right, So I
Speaker 1: ended up picking six after the top five, hoping somebody
Speaker 1: went outside the top five. Did you want to go
Speaker 1: in that order? I went to one, three, five. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think two is more preferable to one this season.
Speaker 1: And I spoke about this, you know, in leaps with
Speaker 1: our friend Mike, who had the first slot option. And
Speaker 1: I'll get into it shortly. Um So, so basically, with
Speaker 1: the second pick over the first pick, if you if
Speaker 1: you determine that Levian Bell and Todd Gurley are somewhat
Speaker 1: of a wash, which I think the argument could be
Speaker 1: made for that, Okay, on the way back in the
Speaker 1: even rounds later on in the draft, if you know
Speaker 1: the makeup of the first team, if they already have
Speaker 1: a quarterback, if they already have a tight end, there's
Speaker 1: no need to waste that even round pick on a
Speaker 1: quarterback or tight end, and you can get a guy
Speaker 1: where you don't have to worry about the guy behind
Speaker 1: you slipping. So so pick three and pick two are
Speaker 1: really good in that scenario, and the same on the
Speaker 1: end of the draft tenant eleven. But um, I just
Speaker 1: don't think. I think the drop off the three is
Speaker 1: a lot different than I wanted to So that's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to So then so then you thought obviously
Speaker 1: thought that the drop off because I look at it
Speaker 1: and for me, the first choice I wanted was pick
Speaker 1: five because I like, there's I think there's five amazing
Speaker 1: players in this draft and then everybody else. So I
Speaker 1: picked five is my first spot? Right? How come you
Speaker 1: chose three over five? Sam reason? Mike mccagnet traded up
Speaker 1: into the top three. He had a preference. He wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna wait to see who felt to him, right, he
Speaker 1: had a preference. I have a preference. You obviously had
Speaker 1: a pre You obviously had a preference three to five.
Speaker 1: But you obviously have a preference of let's say the
Speaker 1: three running back, six, three, eight? Is that? Is that? Like? Okay,
Speaker 1: so who is who is the preference? You want my
Speaker 1: top five? And then no, no, I don't need your
Speaker 1: top five. I know your top five. You're top five
Speaker 1: and the same as everybody stop five at six. We're
Speaker 1: trying to break it down, right, We're trying to we're
Speaker 1: trying to help the people out. For me, like I
Speaker 1: believe that next year running backs in some order or Chimara,
Speaker 1: Frank and I have talks about this. Kimara see Kwon
Speaker 1: Barkley and Kareem Hunt, and to me is depending on
Speaker 1: the type of lead you plan is where you're gonna
Speaker 1: rank the players right now with marketing suspension and everybody
Speaker 1: talking to Camara, Camara is when it's six. But Frank
Speaker 1: has made the argument and not PPR and at a
Speaker 1: half point, you could take Barkley, you could take Hunt.
Speaker 1: Who are you taking? Who would you take? I like
Speaker 1: all three. My preference as it stands right now is Kamara.
Speaker 1: I can be convinced on se Kwon Barkley, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna hurt Giants fans failings here on this one. Dave
Speaker 1: Kettleman probably made the biggest mistake of the draft, and
Speaker 1: thirty gm s agree. Right. So the fact that that
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is most likely going to start Week one,
Speaker 1: in my opinion for the Jets, se Kwon Barkley is
Speaker 1: going to need fifteen to twenty touches a game just
Speaker 1: to show that that they made a great pick and
Speaker 1: that Eli still has enough in the tank. The Giants
Speaker 1: are gonna rely on him heavily. That being said, it's
Speaker 1: still a rookie, and I still think Kamara is more
Speaker 1: explosive from what I've seen. I mean, look, this is
Speaker 1: just me watching college football. Breaking it down, I think
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon runs a little too east west and not
Speaker 1: too much north south. I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: learning curve there. I do think he'll get the value
Speaker 1: and in between the two right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens on the top. Listen, Camara is
Speaker 1: the is he assumed player at six? Obviously you had
Speaker 1: a preference. Listen, if you were really that close beteen
Speaker 1: Camara and Markley, you would rank that You to put
Speaker 1: your slot at seven, because you because there's a chance
Speaker 1: that somebody goes outside the top five, and I want
Speaker 1: to give myself that option. I don't care about the
Speaker 1: reference in the second round. There's also a chance when
Speaker 1: the top five gets hurt and then camariots pulled up
Speaker 1: exactly I'm I'm saying another reason why you could have
Speaker 1: taken you want to be at six. Someone gets pulled
Speaker 1: up and you get Barkley. Then you get Barkley. We
Speaker 1: go through this all the time in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick gets way too much credit for this
Speaker 1: for trading down you just more likely than not, the
Speaker 1: scouts are right. Okay, the scouts have the players ranked
Speaker 1: in the proper position. Okay, Bill Belichick just wants to
Speaker 1: trade down so you can pay the players less and
Speaker 1: you can have more more of a competition at each position.
Speaker 1: And I think that the teams that trade up to
Speaker 1: get players are the teams that are successful at it.
Speaker 1: So okay, so I disagree. Um, that's not why Belichick
Speaker 1: trades down. Belichick trades down because the draft is much
Speaker 1: more of a crapshoot than you believe it to be.
Speaker 1: And he trades down because the fact is having more
Speaker 1: picks and having more players gives you more of a
Speaker 1: chance of hitting. Okay, sure, yeah he's he's gone by volume,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying yes, more often than not, the scouts
Speaker 1: are right and that the top players of the top
Speaker 1: players you you'd hope. So there's a lot of times,
Speaker 1: well that's not true. Like the Patriots. Yes, the Patriots
Speaker 1: really want somebody, they will go out and get him.
Speaker 1: There's no moving down about that. But more likely than
Speaker 1: not they have their tears, like, you know what, we'll
Speaker 1: trade down, and we'll trade down, and we'll trade down.
Speaker 1: I give it the Jets, and I've said before the
Speaker 1: Jets ton of credit for going out, going up and
Speaker 1: getting their guy and they wanted a certain quarterback and
Speaker 1: Donald fill in their laps. And that's awesome. Like that,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's what you should use picks for, um.
Speaker 1: But Belichick trading back is is a little bit different.
Speaker 1: I think, to spend it back to fantasy, there are
Speaker 1: five guys clear cut than a drop off. Yes, who's
Speaker 1: the Who's to say? We're in a New York market,
Speaker 1: somebody could take sake. Only got a lot of giant films, No,
Speaker 1: go about it, Okay, So that's why I picked six.
Speaker 1: Just because I see it splitting hairs between Kamar and
Speaker 1: Barkley doesn't mean that I have to take the seventh
Speaker 1: slot because I get a better pick in the second
Speaker 1: round Like that's that means nothing to me, okay, And
Speaker 1: that's fine for me. And and again, you can check
Speaker 1: out Frank's whiteboard series right now on our YouTube channel
Speaker 1: where he's giving you the first eight rounds of every
Speaker 1: pick one through twelve. It's it's absolutely awesome, So I
Speaker 1: recommended checking it out. I wound up with the eleventh pick,
Speaker 1: and originally I had twelve ranked slot at above eleven.
Speaker 1: And then as I was mocking it out, I realized
Speaker 1: there are certain players that, um, I knew the person
Speaker 1: that twelve would take, so I took the earlier I
Speaker 1: took the earlier pick there um at eleven. That's sort
Speaker 1: of unknowing your audience picked there, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I think said, well, well, I think so. I think
Speaker 1: that depending on how those first now ten picks go,
Speaker 1: there could be just one running back that I like
Speaker 1: left at eleven. And I don't don't say who it
Speaker 1: is that I mean, you said who it is? I
Speaker 1: care like to me, maybe Melvin Gordon is the one
Speaker 1: that falls, and I love Melvin Gordon, and I would
Speaker 1: be upset that if I haven't to have a twelve.
Speaker 1: And I believe Melvin Gordon, and I've said this on
Speaker 1: the air before, I believe Melvin Gordon is closer to
Speaker 1: that Kareem Hunt say, Kwom Barkley's here than he used
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette Delman cooked here. And because of that, I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I get Melon Gordon. So to
Speaker 1: have that eleventh pick Garrett could potentially guarantee me him.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't. If he goes with the running backs,
Speaker 1: that means I'm gonna get other DeAndre Hopkins or Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham and if I and if I took twelve and
Speaker 1: let one of them go, I'm really upset with myself, right,
Speaker 1: So that's ultimately why I had chosen eleven over twelve.
Speaker 1: I had the eleventh pickings. You explain something to me, Greg,
Speaker 1: what is the allert of having the turnaround pick at
Speaker 1: twelve at one? I don't really see the benefit of
Speaker 1: having two picks at the same time. Somebody's like mental, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't have to pick between two players. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you know. It's a really good question. Um,
Speaker 1: I get the alert of picking one if you can
Speaker 1: have it, because it's the first overall pick, you get
Speaker 1: the best player that twelve. I don't. I don't get
Speaker 1: so much to me. Whenever I've been asked this question
Speaker 1: in the future, and it's in the past rather and
Speaker 1: it's been years and years and years of asking where
Speaker 1: do you like to pick in a draft? My hands
Speaker 1: is always the same. It's always six because you're in
Speaker 1: the middle. You're in the middle of the draft. You're
Speaker 1: not going to get caught in a run when you're
Speaker 1: at the ends. If I love a guy, and I'll
Speaker 1: use Chris Hogan as an example, because we've been talking
Speaker 1: about him a lot. If I love Chris Hogan in
Speaker 1: the fourth I'm gonna have to take him because he's
Speaker 1: a very good chance by the time my fifth round
Speaker 1: pick comes back, he's not gonna be there. And it's
Speaker 1: it's very frustrating. I don't have to do that. Like
Speaker 1: if I had the six pick, maybe I'll get him
Speaker 1: in the fifth rend I don't know. And I like
Speaker 1: our offline draft format where there have been a lot
Speaker 1: of trades recently, and when you have draft capital in
Speaker 1: the middle of the draft, you're closer to that pick.
Speaker 1: If there's a guy that you want that you think
Speaker 1: will go, you have a better chance of training for
Speaker 1: that pick if the person only has to move down
Speaker 1: five slots seven slots to get him instead of a
Speaker 1: whole another twelves exactly. It's there's there's always a point
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I always recommended offline draft so
Speaker 1: you can do this. There's always that point in the
Speaker 1: draft where someone at the end picks one through three,
Speaker 1: or picks ten through twe they don't like the board
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they don't like the players on the board.
Speaker 1: Hey can I trade down when you're in that six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight range. You're only jumping down four or five picks.
Speaker 1: They're much more interested in doing that than jumping down
Speaker 1: nine picks because there's a huge, huge difference. It really
Speaker 1: is helpful to be right in the middle. And one
Speaker 1: thing I always like to say is, just just as
Speaker 1: they do with the scouts, in the real NFL, people
Speaker 1: are more likely to stick to the rankings than not
Speaker 1: stick to the rankings. So if you see somebody falling,
Speaker 1: go out and get him if it's somebody you really want,
Speaker 1: because somebody will scoop him just because he's rank that.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. People um that don't have
Speaker 1: the road to Experts exclusive edge package um they or
Speaker 1: even if you do, you're stuck to your rankings and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be like rankings or whatever. That's why Jeff
Speaker 1: makes tears. That's why I make tears, and I live
Speaker 1: and die by that. I don't I don't make a
Speaker 1: player ranking one to a hundred. I don't care. It's
Speaker 1: just the rankings of quarterbacks, running back, swead receivers and
Speaker 1: tight ends, and that's it. No, but it's good to
Speaker 1: know if you're getting closer to the end of your tear,
Speaker 1: then you can sort of cross reference out to your
Speaker 1: rankings to see is he in the next twelve picks
Speaker 1: where you would have to go out and get him
Speaker 1: potentially next picks, depending where you are eight four, four,
Speaker 1: eight four, three, six, eight, seven nine. Lands Davis asked
Speaker 1: a really good question, Jeff. Somebody that people really like
Speaker 1: is Kennyan Drake because of how good he finished the
Speaker 1: year last year. But on Adam Gays's first depth chart
Speaker 1: it was listed as Kenyan dre or Frank Gore. Now
Speaker 1: I saw it tweet today. I have no idea how
Speaker 1: accurate it wasn't someone just dad it up. But Adam
Speaker 1: Gays asked about this why he did this, and Adam
Speaker 1: Gaye said, quote, I'm an asshole. Now again, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: confident someone's made that up. And that's fine because it's
Speaker 1: an awesome fake response. But what do you do? Because
Speaker 1: people believe Kennyan Drake has the ability to break out?
Speaker 1: But Gays brings in a guy like Danny Amndola, who
Speaker 1: do you want to ask you about in a second,
Speaker 1: and brings in Frank or remember when he traded away,
Speaker 1: j j I. Kenyan Drake was not next up. It
Speaker 1: was Damian Williams until when then Williams got hurt and
Speaker 1: then Drake stepped up. Now he brings in a Frank Gore,
Speaker 1: who I don't think he's just gonna get nothing here.
Speaker 1: How do you break that down? Well, we know Francore
Speaker 1: is going to have some sort of semblance to the offense,
Speaker 1: because a veteran guy like that that has so much
Speaker 1: tread on his tires isn't gonna go to the worst
Speaker 1: team in the NFL and get and sit on the bench.
Speaker 1: So that's that's one thing that we do know. That
Speaker 1: being said, I don't expect Miami to win a lot
Speaker 1: of games this year, and I do expect them to
Speaker 1: see if Drake can carry the load at some point
Speaker 1: later on in the season. So Drake is probably a
Speaker 1: guy that will get overdrafted and somebody that you can
Speaker 1: target for a team that's one in three, one and four,
Speaker 1: two and five, you can trade for that hasn't has
Speaker 1: a has an eye high upside for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season because Miami is gonna be so bad because
Speaker 1: they're gonna give him a lot of touches to see
Speaker 1: if he can be their guy going forward. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you believe Drake will be very beneficial the second half
Speaker 1: of the year. Early on, we gonna get too much
Speaker 1: Francre Yes. Then let me get to the wide receiver
Speaker 1: depth chargers. There's a lot of information in this Dolphins
Speaker 1: that's sure, and that had Danny Amonduela listed as a
Speaker 1: starting wide receiver. And it's really interesting because if you
Speaker 1: read any of the practice reports, that's what you see too.
Speaker 1: And you have Vanti Parker doing to Ante Parker things,
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills basically doing Kenny Stills things. Well, the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill. You need to find the Jarvis Landry and
Speaker 1: right now that Jarvis Landry sure seems to be Danny Amondola.
Speaker 1: The question remains can he stay healthy? So Greg, the
Speaker 1: Danny Amadola signing wasn't for him to be the punt
Speaker 1: returner on the team, obviously not well, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they have to King Grant and the Jets went out
Speaker 1: and got a punt returner and kick returner in the draft.
Speaker 1: The Patriots went out and got Cordarel Patterson. That's a
Speaker 1: big part of the game. Special things. People don't look
Speaker 1: at it a lot, not for our purposes, because not
Speaker 1: for our purposes. But I'm saying you can make the
Speaker 1: argument that Danny Amondola at this point of his career,
Speaker 1: he is efficient on special teams and they need a
Speaker 1: guy like that on the team because they have Grant.
Speaker 1: It leads me to lead believe that that signing was
Speaker 1: more to, you know, to make Ryan Tannell comfortable with
Speaker 1: the possession receiver. So how high would you take Danny
Speaker 1: Amndula because he's not really costing you all that much
Speaker 1: right now. If you look at the Fantasy pros composite rankings,
Speaker 1: you have Danny Amadola going. He's not on my draft
Speaker 1: right now. Really, Yeah, I just I don't like this
Speaker 1: Miami offense. First, even though you just said he's going
Speaker 1: to be because you think he will be in the offense,
Speaker 1: I don't think the offense will be good. Is that
Speaker 1: even if an offense isn't good, they're still gonna score
Speaker 1: points like the Jets, Like the Jets weren't good last year,
Speaker 1: Robby and was awesome. Yeah, it's still it's still rather
Speaker 1: take the chance on Tavante Parker. Obviously I would not.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm done with the Monty Parker sure, but
Speaker 1: like that, that's the only argument that can be made
Speaker 1: for that offense. I don't agree with that. Absolutely. The
Speaker 1: Miami offens are gonna win three games this year and
Speaker 1: they're not going to score a lot of points. Period.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take a player on that offense
Speaker 1: with with no ceiling like Danny Amendola, who what's his ceiling?
Speaker 1: It's his touchdowns are Tom Brady touchdowns. He throws him
Speaker 1: open because it's Danny Amendola. This isn't this isn't Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: But even when Jervis Langrye wasn't catching the touchdowns, he
Speaker 1: still catching a ton of passes and being fantasy useful.
Speaker 1: Certainly were useful to being picked two fifty. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about guys with two totally different skill sets. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the slot receiver in Miami. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. I think their offense is gonna change a
Speaker 1: lot this year. The worst, Okay, that's all. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Eight four or four eight four, three, six, seven nine.
Speaker 1: Before we wrap up two rooky wide receivers that are
Speaker 1: generating a ton of hype this preseason, one in Denver
Speaker 1: and one in Chicago. Jeff I wanna start at court
Speaker 1: and Sutton, who everyone's tweeting about if you just go
Speaker 1: down fassy twitters, Oh my god, Courton Sutton, My god,
Speaker 1: that's mu right. Yeah, so so everybody loving Courtland Suntland,
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. Are you loving Corton Sun? Yeah? There was
Speaker 1: talks during the draft that he was going to be
Speaker 1: the top receiver taken and then he slipped, probably because
Speaker 1: of our conference, But I mean I happened to be
Speaker 1: a big fan. Who does he have in front of him?
Speaker 1: To Marrius Thomas was dropped off every single year in
Speaker 1: Minnie Sanders, Well they have a quarterback to be fair, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. No, I like case Kadam. I always have
Speaker 1: Evan Silva. Rural World believes that Anthony Miller could have
Speaker 1: the most receptions of any Bears player. Buyer selling that.
Speaker 1: I'm selling that I think the most receptions on that team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is going to be the cat back threem. Yes, I
Speaker 1: don't know what that. I'm gonna go with Alan Robinson,
Speaker 1: but um, the Avony Miller thing is really interesting. I
Speaker 1: think people are really buying the Chicago offense in general.
Speaker 1: We've spoken about it, no doubt. Um, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pieces here from Trey Burton, Allen Robinsons three co
Speaker 1: and Jordan Howard and now Anthony Miller. Is Chicago gonna
Speaker 1: be a good enough offense to support all of that? No,
Speaker 1: it's not, but there's a lot of pieces here. What
Speaker 1: was the most amount of completions Mitch Robiski had in
Speaker 1: the game last year? Was it over twenty? You have
Speaker 1: an answer? No, But like I don't know, there are
Speaker 1: games at three com and has five or six catches.
Speaker 1: He can end up with sixty catches easily. There's no
Speaker 1: receivers easily. Is a lot Kenny have sixty? Yes? May
Speaker 1: there be nobody be no wide receiver that's a hundred catches, sure,
Speaker 1: but all Robinson goun have seventy? Fair enough? All right,
Speaker 1: Jeff fun man, it did. Thanks for having me. You're
Speaker 1: You're welcome? Are you gonnarea? Where can we follow you
Speaker 1: on on Twitter? At czar on this or a world? Okay?
Speaker 1: With a lot of jets on there a lot of
Speaker 1: jets on their jets sounds terrible. Yeah, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fun year though. All right, Jeff Edelman, we appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You stop him by. Maybe we'll do again later this week.
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm invited? Is that is that an invite.
Speaker 1: It might pay, It might pay. Thanks for having me, Greg,
Speaker 1: You're welcome by it. We will have a special guest
Speaker 1: filling in for Frank tomorrow. You're not gonna want to
Speaker 1: miss who that is. And then especially guests the rest
Speaker 1: of the week for Jeff dam and I'm Greg Sausman.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching the Fantasy Best Friends Forever.
Speaker 1: We'll do it all again tomorrow, we hope.