1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, what is it like to be a mechanic? 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: What is it like to troy and fixed cars in 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: this modern age? And there's a lot of words like 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: it's difficult, you know, frustrating, you know, exciting, depressing. There's 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: just it's just like a wide range of emotion and scale. 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Eam ly in appal thunder who we're. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Thinking that could walk through her wind on the driver's side. 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: But I feel a sin flashlight and need a old 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 4: fly smatic. 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Having the car Doctor. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 5: We're into an orders manual for a twenty fourteen rogue. 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 5: They recommend old twenty W but they're using the dealership 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 5: is using five W thirty conventional oil. Why I think dollars, Well, I. 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Think they're wrong. 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 6: Welcome to the radio home of Ronananian, the Car Doctor 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 6: since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 6: world overturned to for their definitive opinion an automotive repair. 18 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 6: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 6: the phone and call in the garage doors. 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: Are opening, but I am here to take your call 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six ninety nine. 22 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 7: Hundred and now pee. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: Running. 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: It's a bumper cover, it's not a bumper. You know 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: that that all the all the structural support and all 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: the strength for that bumper is underneath. And it was 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, she caught it, and she kind of and 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: he was, can you just put it back on? And 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I've got to see it. I 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of doubt that there isn't some sort of damage here. 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: So they drove it up, they brought it in, they 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: had picked up they had one of their kids come 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: by and uh, you know, they picked up the bumper 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: and put it in the back of her bigger car. 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I got two cars that day. I 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: got the car without the bumper and the car with 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: the bumper in the back seat and stretching out into 38 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the into the back of the vehicle, and we finagled 39 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: the bumper back out. We took our notes, signed a 40 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: repair order, and go. You know, it's amazing what holds 41 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: a car together. And I think that's probably why I 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this, because you know, we all 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: think that it's strength, that there's you know, integrity, there's 44 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 1: there's just something material, no pun intended, hanging on there 45 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: that's no you know, you look at the parts list 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: of what this vehicle took to repair because I had 47 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Honda send me some pages. You know, I said, I 48 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: need to see the grill page. I need to see 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: the front bumper cover page. I need to see the 50 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: lower belly pan, the front fender pair, and so on. 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: And I just went through the list and I said, 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I need, you know item four, seven, nine, twelve, fifteen, 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: and whatever quantities are requested, because the problem becomes when 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: you go to put back together a fifteen year old vehicle, 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a five year old vehicle in this case, though it 56 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: was fifteen. You go to put back together that fifteen 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: year old vehicle, all the clips have little sand and 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: grit wedged in them from being on the road all 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: these years, and the screws don't necessarily all come out, 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: and the clips break, and you know, there's just you know, 61 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: there's twenty five AO threeh seventy one clips holding this Honda. 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Twenty five clips. You look at it, You go, where 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: the heck could you put twenty five plastic clips? But 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: they're there, and they all went back in, and you know, 65 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, my mind works in funny ways. I 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: remember seeing I visited the Intrepid Airspace Museum in New 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: York City a while back, and I remember seeing the 68 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: fighter planes that were housed there under deck from World 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: War Two, and I remember watching the rivets, looking at 70 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: the rivets. You ever look at a World War two aircraft. 71 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: The covers, the panels on the airplane were hand riveted 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: in place. Kuchink kuchink ku chink, kuchink ku chink. You 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: know that wasn't a machine doing it. That was Rosy 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: the riveter. And we man is to line all these 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: things up and all these metal rivets, and they just 76 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: held these planes together. We sure have gotten better because 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: now we're holding cars together with plastic clips, and you know, 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: the clips need to be replaced. And you wonder, have 79 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: we have? 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 3: We have? 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: We have? We moved forward? I wonder. But it took 82 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: it took clips, it took screws, it took panels. The 83 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: two Fender liners because when she tore the bumper off, 84 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: when it caught the garbage truck, the edge of the 85 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: Fender liners, which are made out of paper thin plastic, 86 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: naturally tore with it. And I looked at that car 87 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: and I you know, every time you take away the 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: outer covering and you're looking at the skeleton, you say 89 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: to yourself, is that really strong enough? Well that really? 90 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: You know, I had to hot rod out today. I 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: had had to go do some errands and I figured, 92 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: what the heck, it's a nice day. I'll take the 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: cover off and give it a you know, you forget 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: what it's like to drive a piece of you know, metal, 95 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: something with steel and support and a big heavy bumper, 96 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: and you know, you look at the way cars were made, 97 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: then you look at the way cars are made now, 98 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: and you think technology, right, sure does take a lot 99 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: of clip screws and all sorts of things to put 100 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: a Honda back together. Though I will tell you that, 101 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: well we did, and it looks better than new. Funny 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: thing is, she didn't even damage the bumper, So maybe 103 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: maybe there is some beauty and intelligence in the design 104 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: of these vehicles today because she didn't damage the bumper 105 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: or the cover, I should say, the bumper cover. You know, 106 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: the bumper cover just she hit it and it came apart. 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: It did what it's supposed to do, was like a 108 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: quick release bang and the whole thing just fell off, 109 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: and you know, it worked, So the bumper was okay. 110 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: It's just all the expense was all the little panels, clips, brackets, 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: hold downs and everything else that we had to use 112 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: to put this car back together. You know, it's just 113 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: just the wall gets pinned together. It's just just odd. 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: So and I just you know, so when you look 115 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: at your car in the driveway and you're you're thinking 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of how you know, it does make the argument for 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: you better wear your seat belt and hope the airbag works, 118 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: and make sure the air bag works, and make sure 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: there's no air bag light on because you want it 120 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: to work, because boy, there's not a whole lot up 121 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: there to protect you bumper. Sure are made like they 122 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: used to be, and that's kind of the whole point 123 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: of this. I guess that you know they look safe, 124 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: they are made better, but there's an awful lot of 125 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: plastic that are incorporated into today's vehicles and probably more 126 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: so coming in the future. Hello and welcome Ronin Andy 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: and the Car Doctor here at a five five five 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero to take your calls 129 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: and answer your questions. Eight five five five six zero 130 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero. We've got a couple of things 131 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about this hour. I've 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: got some emails I want to go over coming up 133 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: in the second hour today, we're going to have an interview. 134 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Who are we interviewing? Second hour Fred, We're interviewing let's 135 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: see Don. I can't find his last name. I should 136 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: know this, but the gentleman wrote a book for sixty 137 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: years of the Mustang, and you know we're gonna be 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: joined with him this in the second hour talking about 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: the book that's coming out next week. I believe it is. 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: And we just look through my notes real quick. It's oh, 141 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Donald far Sure. We've had Donald on the show before. 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I should know that. See, I've got too much on 143 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: my mind today. Plastic clips, plastic clips, the Mustang sixtieth anniversary. 144 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of Mustang, a quick shout out a good friend 145 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: of this radio show, Shelby Jimmy. Jimmy's a little under 146 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: the weather this week and we got wind of it, 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: and Jimmy, we hope you're feeling better and know that 148 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: we all hold you in our thoughts and do well, 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: my friend, and you know we'll talk to you soon. 150 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: Let me pull over and take this pause real quick, 151 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: and when we come back, I should point out too, 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: by the way, the eight five five five six zero 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero phone number is twenty four to seven, 154 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: and I love the contacts by the way, you know, 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: you get out the card doctorshow dot com. 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But if 163 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: you're looking to talk to me midweek, go out to 164 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 1: cardoctorshow dot com and click on the contact us button, 165 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: fill out the form, and chances are we'll call you 166 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: this Wednesday night. So but right now, let's pull over 167 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: because the phone lines are filling up. Let me do 168 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: some let me do some little bit of work here 169 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: shop housekeeping, and when we come back, we'll open up 170 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: the phone lines. I'm Ronning any and the car Doctor 171 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: don't go away. It's he drives that way. 172 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 6: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car 173 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: advice done right. 174 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: Eight five to five, five six zero, nine to nine 175 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's go and see Joe 176 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: up in New York, Joe. Welcome to the car doctor sir, 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: how can I help. 178 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 5: Hi? 179 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 3: Ron? I have a nineteen ninety two four E three fifty. 180 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: It's a dually used on the Winnebago. It's a twenty 181 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 3: four footter. So since it's so old, the AC unit 182 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: was converted from R twelve to one thirty four. It 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 3: wasn't blowing cold, and I bought the EVAC system the 184 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 3: hoses and I had success. I got it to blow 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: cold again, Ron, But when I went to remove the 186 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: high pressure hose, I had a leaking from the high 187 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: pressure port, so I had to reconnect the hoses. And 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: so my question to you, Ron is how would you 189 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 3: deal with the leaking high pressure port? Should I use 190 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: my valve STEMD tool remover and just try and back 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: and off and re seated? How would you handle the 192 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: leaking port from the high pressure and I guess it 193 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: could leak from the pressure from the other listeners. 194 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: How would you handle that either side? So you know, 195 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about this like if it was the normal 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: R twelve setup, just the norm without a conversion, all right, 197 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: So do you you know if we were in the shop, 198 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: I would draw out what's in there? I'd have the 199 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: convenience of that because i'd have a machine. I'd recover it, 200 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: and then I would take the shrader out and start 201 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: with taking the strader out and just replacing it with 202 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: a new shrader. And eight times, at eighty percent of 203 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: the time that works. All right, And it's funny, Joe. 204 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: You'll take that strader out, You'll look at it, you'll 205 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: look at it. You'll never see what's wrong with it. 206 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: It's really crazy. I never you know, It's just it's maddening. 207 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Now if I don't have if I don't have the 208 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: luxury of a machine, and again not counting how it 209 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 1: was converted, they do make. Have you seen, and I 210 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: think maybe you're talking about it, the devices that attach 211 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: to the schraders where you can take the hose off, 212 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: put this on, take the shrader valve out with the 213 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: system charge, remove the shrader, and then put the new 214 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: one back in. Have you seen that? 215 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: Now I have it. That's probably more in depth than 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: I the home mechanic can do. Ron I like that 217 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: idea a lot, and the fact that I would never 218 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: catch a bad trader with my eyeballs. How do I 219 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: get a new schrader? Do I go to my local 220 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: tire shop. Is it the same thing? 221 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 5: No? 222 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: No, not at all, No, not at all. Do you 223 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: do you do you have a Do you have a 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: napa ern O'Reilly oto parts near you? You know, you 225 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: know we do if you can? Now, are you going 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: to be able to recover how the system is charged? 227 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: Can you? Yes? I'm sure I can't. I can bring 228 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: it to one of the local guys. I'm sure I 229 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: could do that. 230 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, right now, what's what's on the system right now? 231 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: A hose or you've got it capped? 232 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: Yes, So when I went to remove the hoses, I 233 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: heard the leak and I reconnected it. 234 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 235 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: So when I reconnected the uh the fixtures to the 236 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: to the high pressure point, the leak stopped. The hoses 237 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: are keeping the leak from going off? 238 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right? And then obviously don't use the air. 239 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Not that you're gonna use it this time of year anyway, 240 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: but you know, don't don't use the air. Recover the refrigerant, 241 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: and then tell me about tell me about the one 242 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: thirty four conversion. When thirty four conversions were usually pretty 243 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: simple back in the day it was it was an 244 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: adapter and possibly an internal strader in that adapter and 245 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: taking out the R twelve strader is is that something 246 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: like what you've done. 247 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 3: So I didn't actually do the conversion run. I bought 248 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: it that way. And I can tell you that when 249 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: I plugged the R thirty four and then I did 250 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 3: a test run and she was blowing cold, I did 251 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: a quick YouTube search on how much pressure to have 252 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: the differential between the high pressure and low pressure, and 253 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: I was in the ballpark and I was quite happy 254 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: with how cold she was blowing. But when I had 255 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 3: this week, I got into the deep end of the pool. 256 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: That's what I reached. 257 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. You know, typically, 258 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you can also use as a rule 259 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: of thumb. One thirty four is a little different than 260 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: our twelve is a refrigerant, but rule of thumb with 261 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:10,199 Speaker 1: our twelve, we always said the system was correctly charged 262 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: if the pressure gauge is read ambient temperature. So if 263 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: the temperature day was ninety psi, system at rest on 264 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: a cool day, you'd see ninety psi on a set 265 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: of gauges before the vehicle was started and warmed up 266 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: and so on. Yeah, you're gonna look for about eighty 267 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: five ninety percent of that. Having said that, I can 268 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: also shoot holes in that theory that everybody stands by, 269 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: because I've had situations where I've hooked up you know, 270 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I've looked at it. I go, yeah, it's got adequate charge. 271 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I'll recover what's in there, and it'll be a three 272 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: pound system and I take out a pound. So I 273 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: tell you that method, but I tell it to you cautiously, 274 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, not not saying that I necessarily think it's 275 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. 276 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: But Ron has a software, a game play. Go to 277 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 3: one of my local shops has recover the current refrigerate 278 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: and then go to NAPA, remove the old trader valve 279 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: with the tire valvest the removal tool, and swap a 280 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: new them in there that. 281 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: That that works for me, that works for me. While 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: you're down at NAPA, ask them if they because they're 283 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: not expensive, tell them, you know, ask them to show 284 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: you if they have one, and they should you know, 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: if not, O'Reilly otoparts will have it too, but a 286 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: an AC core removal tool while the system is charged. 287 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, because if you're going to own a motor home, 288 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: if you're going to do you know, work on this 289 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: in the future. You know what just having a couple 290 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: of tools around does sort of help, you know. 291 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 3: A removal tool, Yeah, an. 292 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: AC core removal tool while the system is charged, all right, 293 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, if you look it up online 294 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: you'll see what I'm talking about. Basically, what it does 295 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: is it lets you extract the core, shut off the 296 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: system so it can't leak, take the core out, put 297 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: the core back in, open the valve, push it down in. 298 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of ingenius. It's been around a good 299 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: long time and it works. So they do work. So 300 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: it's it's something if you're gonna work on AC, especially 301 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: on an older vehicle where you can't get parts, you know, 302 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a worthwhile investment. 303 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: Well right, I can't thank you enough. Here's a big 304 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: hugg over the found. I really appreciate you. 305 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: You're welcome, brother, My pleasure anytime. So take good care. 306 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's I get it right. It's it's older, 307 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: but we want to keep it going, and we want 308 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: to keep it going. I keep saying. I was talking 309 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: to someone last night over dinner. They asked me how 310 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: the week was in the shop, and you know, they 311 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: were asking me about the age of vehicles we're working on, 312 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: and you know, do I see older, do I see newer? 313 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: And I said, we see newer, but we see people 314 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: trying to keep older stuff going as difficult as it is. 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: And they said to me what they asked me. They said, 316 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: what's the biggest difficulty? And I said, trying to find parts. 317 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: You know, it just really comes back to that. And 318 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: I keep banging that drum and hopes that somebody catches on. 319 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: But you know, a lot of it is that a 320 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff is coming in overseas and it's this 321 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: poor quality and nobody cares. And you know, it's it 322 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: really does. And I've talked to a few people about 323 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: this that a lot of people now and maybe it's 324 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: at my suggestion. I don't want to take all the 325 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: credit for it, but if your car payments are done 326 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: and you're driving an older vehicle, start thinking about what fails. 327 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: Stocking those parts on a shelf somewhere while you can 328 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the things that will hold and you know, stay true 329 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: over time and when you need it, it'll be there. 330 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Rotating electrical fuel pumps, things like that. I'm run an 331 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: ady in the car. Doctor eight five five five six 332 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero Zero's the phone number. I'll be 333 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: back right after this. 334 00:16:50,600 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: Don't go away, who's gone and done? 335 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: It's kay, welcome back. We're running into the car doctor. 336 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's give out the phone number. That's obligatory 337 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 338 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: But the phone lines are full. But just to hey, 339 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: you have it there on file. Let's keep that in 340 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: handy and keep that in mind. I should point out 341 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: too that if you missed this radio show or you 342 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: want more of this radio show cardoctorshow dot com, you'll 343 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: find the podcast there and just google search Ron and 344 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: Indian podcasts and you'll find them. There's the list and 345 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: on your favorite podcast player wherever that might be. Let's 346 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: go to Let's go to Man. We haven't been to 347 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: main yet today. Dan and Maine eighteen Toyota Ref. Four 348 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: and a shutter problem. Dan. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 349 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: How can I help? 350 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, second tall, second caller, long time listener, Thank you, sir. Yes, so, okay, 351 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 8: I have an issue with my twenty eighteen Rep. Four 352 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 8: And what's happening is that the motor or the engine 353 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 8: is shuttering under light acceleration. Now, it's what it seems 354 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 8: to be going on, is that between sixteen hundred and 355 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 8: eighteen hundred rpm that's going to starts the shutter, But 356 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 8: as soon as it goes above eighteen hundred, it goes 357 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 8: away right away. And this happens regardless of any speed 358 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 8: you're going. Ok the rpm that's more pronoun. 359 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: Okay, and any dashboard warning lights on, so nope. 360 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 7: Board warning lights whatsoever. Now, what I did do is 361 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 7: thinking that because the car does have one hundred and 362 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 7: thirty eight thousand miles on it, I figured, well, you know, 363 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 7: the spark plug needs to be changed, because they're pretty 364 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 7: good till one hundred thousand and I'm way over that. 365 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: So I replaced it. 366 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 7: With the NGK iridium spark Plus and that's what I 367 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 7: gets the manufacturer calls for. And I also replaced because 368 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 7: that didn't work. When I replaced the spark plug, it's 369 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 7: still shutter between sixteen eighteen hundred. Now, I also replaced 370 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 7: a coil pac, thinking okay, well, sparkpluck's not working, maybe 371 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 7: the coil PACs are getting weaker, which I guess I can. 372 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 8: And when I changed it, no change. 373 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 7: Whatsoever, it still shutters. Between sixteen eighteen hundred rpm. 374 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: All right, has anybody tried to diagnose this instead of 375 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: just throwing parts at it? 376 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: No? Not yet. 377 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 7: So the thing is, I have a appointment with the 378 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 7: Toyota dealership next week, and I'm trying to hope to 379 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 7: avoid that. Maybe maybe it's a simple spex I hope, 380 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 7: or I may miss something. So now I can tell you. 381 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 3: Go ahead. 382 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: I was going to say, let me ask you this. 383 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: The car has one hundred and thirty eight thousand miles 384 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: on it. Correct, what sort of maintenance has it had 385 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: up till this point? I Now you're gonna tell me 386 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: regular oil changes, entire rotations. Tell me what was done 387 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: at sixty and ninety thousand miles? What sort of services? 388 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 7: Okay, So what I can tell you is that the 389 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 7: fuel service has not been done. I can turn so 390 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 7: fuel filter wise, Um, that has never been changed? 391 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: Well, there is no there is no There is no 392 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: replaceable fuel filter on this vehicle short of replacing the 393 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: fuel pump assembly. No I'm talking about I'm talking about 394 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: it sixty thousand miles. If you were doing proper maintenance, 395 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not scolding you, I'm just explaining, you would 396 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: have had your mechanic or somebody. They would have done 397 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: air filter, cabin filter, drive line fluids all right, depending 398 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: upon you know, how harsh of an environment the vehicles 399 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: operated in. And clearly, by ninety thousand miles drive line fluid. 400 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: So at this point transmission fluid would have been changed, 401 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: which is what I'm leading up to. Has the transfluid 402 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: ever been serviced on this vehicle? 403 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: No? 404 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 8: Okay, So transmission fluid change only because the sealed transmission, 405 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 8: right things, that doesn't even have a dipstick. 406 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: Right, it's it's you know, this is forever transmission fluid, 407 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: or until the transmission starts to fill, which is what 408 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: it's doing now. 409 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm sorry. 410 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: Even though it's a sealed unit, it needs service. Let 411 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: me let me let me explain something to you, Dan, 412 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: all right, for you and everybody else to hear. What 413 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: do car companies sell. Car companies sell vehicles, They don't 414 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: sell maintenance, all right. So it's drive this vehicle forever 415 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: until you can't drive it anymore, and then you know 416 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: what we're gonna make you do. We're gonna let you 417 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: go buy another vehicle. 418 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: Now. 419 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Maintenance puts the odds in your corner all right maintenance 420 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: puts the odds in your favor that, yeah, maybe you'll 421 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: get more than one hundred and thirty eight thousand miles 422 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: out of it. What's your describing to me is typical 423 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Toyota trans fluid breakdown. All right. They use something called 424 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: they use something called Toyota WS fluid. It has an 425 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: additive pack in it. It sounds like the additive pack 426 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: has gone away and now in the converter all right, 427 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: locks on or as the transmission goes to shift specific 428 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: gears that it shutters because it's not a smooth transition. 429 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: Do you ever have a mini bike as a kid. 430 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: Did you ever drive anything with a centrifical clutch or 431 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: a snowblower or anything? You ever look at how a 432 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: centrifical Yeah, you ever look at how a centrifical clutch works. 433 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: The faster it goes, the shoes throw out and lock 434 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: into the drum to give it more of a So 435 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: that's that's how a torque converter works on a modern vehicle. 436 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: It's it's basically there's a set of shoes in there 437 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: that are hydraulically applied and locked to the outer drum 438 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: to create a mechanical lock. But if those shoes are glazed, 439 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: if those shoes are worn, if they're chomped up and 440 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: bit up, they're not gonna have that smooth apply. And 441 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: right in that sixteen eighteen hundred rpm sweet spot it 442 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: starts to apply. It doesn't want to apply. It's like 443 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: dragging your fingers across the shower glass. And sometimes it 444 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: moves smoothly, and sometimes it makes that horrible screeching sound, 445 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: you know, depending upon how wet. 446 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Or dry they are. So, okay, let me ask you this. 447 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 7: So would having a tran service help it fix it? 448 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 7: Or it's just only a temporary band aid type. 449 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Well, it depends, all right, It depends on you know, 450 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: what color is the fluid. The first thing, if we 451 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: were standing in the shop, all right, the first thing 452 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to do is go for a road test. 453 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to try holding my foot gently on the break, 454 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: all right. And the reason I'm doing that is because 455 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: I want to apply, and I want to fool the 456 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: computer so that it doesn't go into lock up so 457 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: it won't apply the converter, all right. And generally this 458 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: works on most toyotas. I can't say it works on 459 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: an eighteen and it probably does. I haven't tried it specifically. 460 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: There's some other things i'd normally look for. What I'm 461 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: trying to do is provide input to the PCM to 462 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: keep converter from applying, to see if the problem goes away. 463 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: If the problem doesn't go away, but it is a 464 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: trans shutter, I know it's not just the converter, it's 465 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: in the trans itself. I'm also gonna be looking at 466 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: misfire indicators, both by scan tool and looking deeper into 467 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: its Mode six language. All this stuff is deep for you. 468 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I get it. You know. If I was a medical doctor, 469 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: i'd be telling you. You're telling me you had chest pains. 470 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking to see did you have a 471 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: heart attack, did you have you know, heartburn? Or was 472 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: it just a body ache. I'm trying to sort that 473 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: out once I'm confident enough that it's trans that it's 474 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: transmission related. If the fluid is dark and dirty, which 475 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: I'm suspecting it, is it a buck forty that has 476 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: never been changed. Yeah, I'm gonna try changing the fluid. 477 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: And there is a way you can change the fluid. 478 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: There's a drain, there's a fill, there's a specific procedure, 479 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna change the fluid once drive it. I'm 480 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna change the fluid twice, drive it, and depending upon 481 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: how and if it improves, I may change it a 482 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: third time. Because what I'm trying to do, I'm trying 483 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: to put that that shift additive, that vitamin back into 484 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle so that the fluid, so that you get 485 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: it so that the bands get you know, back to 486 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: the point where they'll apply smoothly. We've done this, not 487 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: just us, but a lot of repair shops have done 488 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: this with a great deal of success. And I would 489 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: say I'd give it a two thirds maybe three quarters 490 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: of the time it works. Sometimes the trans is too 491 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: far gone. But if it is in the trands, and 492 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: here's the catch, if it is in the trans the 493 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: only alternative is to overhaul it and replace it. So 494 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: you're what you're doing is you're gambling three hundred dollars 495 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: worth of service each time you service it, and if 496 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: you see an improvement after the first one, you do 497 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: the second, or you're replacing. You're replacing the transmission, which 498 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: will vary in price depending upon where you live, anywhere 499 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: from five to seven grand as an educated guess. So 500 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, you start weighing it back and forth, that 501 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: vehicle typically goes two hundred thousand, so it's it's worth 502 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: the gamble question. 503 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: Okay, okay. 504 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 7: This one other note I did not mention is that 505 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 7: there's a bulletin out there that only covers twenty sixteen 506 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: rap fours about the shuttling, and Toyota has acknowledged that 507 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 7: something about the torque converter, R box control or something, right, 508 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 7: because but it only applies to sixteen, and well I 509 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: have eighteen, So I'm just wondering, is that that's like 510 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 7: under the same No, because. 511 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: They changed vendors, all right, from the guy who was 512 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: making it in sixteen to a different one seventeen and 513 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: eighteen and later on a sixteen. But the additive characteristic 514 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: of the fluid is the condition. It's not it's not 515 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: because of that converter. That converter can cause a problem 516 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: all by itself. But your concern is changing the fluid 517 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: as a preemptive strike, which is why you normally do 518 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: it at sixty or ninety, depending upon how much you drive. 519 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny and I've got to run down, 520 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: but I've got to say that in the majority of 521 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: vehicles that get fluid services on a regular basis, for 522 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: the cars that they say never change this, they seem 523 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: to be the ones that have the least amount of problems. 524 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: Maintenance is still the case. Let me know what ends 525 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: up happening. But I bet your Toyota tells you to 526 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: start with the trans fluid service, and you know that'll 527 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: probably put you on the right path. Let us know 528 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We're 529 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back, and let's go to 530 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: Let's go to Brian in Florida. Brian, how are you 531 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: down there? Florida? Away? How's everything? 532 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 7: Hey? 533 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Ron, I'm good. We made it through the hurricane. 534 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: We were just outside that inner cone of wind. 535 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: We lucked out. 536 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 2: It went a little bit north, but so we got hit. 537 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: I lost a lot of shingles from what. 538 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: Part of Florida? 539 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: You get the help? 540 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: What part of the un. 541 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: Park about eighty miles south of Orlando. 542 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but everybody's will so good? 543 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no in this area. But I'm not unlike 544 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: the coasts, so sadly yeah yeah yeah. 545 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: So how can I help you? How can I help 546 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: you today. 547 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, I got I've got a twenty twenty 548 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: one BMW three thirty I beautiful car went in for 549 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: a routine oil change last spring. Car had about fifteen thousand. 550 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: The service manager told me that he in addition to 551 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 2: aill change, he recommended a break fluid change. Okay, and 552 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: he said, I asked, and he said, because this is 553 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 2: some kind of a sensor or electrical opponent or something 554 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: that's involved with the brake fluid. And they want if 555 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: if I got went bad, it would be like a 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: four thousand dollars repair. So I don't know, I don't 557 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: know if you've ever heard of anything like that on 558 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: any car. 559 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so let's let's talk about break fluid by design. 560 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: And this is easy enough. You can you can research 561 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: it afterwards and just google break fluid and water absorption. 562 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: Break fluid has a tendency to attract moisture, all right. 563 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: If you ever, if you ever notice that, you know, 564 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: all break fluid bottles, go into your local parts house, 565 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: or the next time you're in the grocery aisle looking 566 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: at and you walk by break fluid, it always says 567 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: keep lid on tightly when not in use. Right, that's 568 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: because they're trying to keep moisture out of the fluid. 569 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: Break fluid absorbs roughly two to three and a half 570 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: percent of moisture per year, So a system that's two 571 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: going on three years old can have upwards of five 572 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: to six percent volume displaced by moisture. In theory, depending 573 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: upon environment. Okay, you know the damage there becomes a 574 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: couple of things happen. Number one, if it's anything less 575 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: than pure break fluid, the hydraulic action isn't isn't as 576 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: good as it could be because water is not compressible 577 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: and it affects hydraulic operation of the system. Number two, 578 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, you've got a lot of vehicles out there 579 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: with abs components, you know, steal sleeves, you know internal 580 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: componentry that now you've got moisture laying against it. Over time, 581 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: it'll rust, so it becomes expensive. So the dealer, the 582 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: dealer service manager is not necessarily incorrect. Yeah, if they've 583 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: got a sensor in there and they've had experience where 584 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: that sensor reacts to moisture, guess what. Now, if you 585 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: look in your owner's manual, I'm almost gonna bet you 586 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: that's somewhere in there, it's gonna say, hey, you know, 587 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: break fluid is a replaceable, replaceable fluid based on time 588 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: or mileage vehicles three years old. Now you're kind of 589 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: in that sweet spot. So yeah, I say go for it. 590 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: It's proper care. You know, you got to remember, you know, 591 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: we talk about how cars aren't really rocket science, and 592 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: then there's BMW. You know you are driving you are 593 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: driving a rocket ship. 594 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: Brother. 595 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm just being onto this and 596 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: tell us running on its axles and whatever, because you 597 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: know I'll get I'll get beat on the trade. 598 00:30:59,560 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: On the trade. 599 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like the cart so but. 600 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: By all means, I would I would, I would replace. 601 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: I would replace brake fluid at fifteen thousand, regardless because 602 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: of it's three going on four years old. 603 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 2: All right, very good, so that helps a lot. 604 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: Ron. 605 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 606 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Be well, be safe, uh be well, 607 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: be safe. Yeah. I talk to a friend of mine 608 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: in Florida. He is down I think he's around Orlando, 609 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: and Carrie has no power, he has no electricity, he 610 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: has no internet, he has spotty cell service, and they're 611 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: all just kind of hanging on. Fortunately he's on generator 612 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: and he's hoping at lasts, but they've got no projected 613 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: electrical return date. It's got to be crazy. Eight five 614 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. The Car 615 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: Doctor's coming back right after this. 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So 624 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: if you leave a message on the contact us page, 625 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: fill out the form, chances are we'll call you back, 626 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: get your message up, and we're recording free an upcoming 627 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: show that's going to be live taped. If you know 628 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, on the weekend of the twenty sixth, 629 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about vehicle maintenance and repair. 630 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: We're at that time of year right, we're just you know, 631 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: it's October, we're getting close. You know that white stuff 632 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: is coming soon and along with it the cold. The 633 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: cold's already here in parts of New Jersey as well 634 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: as upstate. A couple of things I want to talk about. 635 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk about batteries real quick. This seems 636 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: to be a hot button topic, no pun intended, but 637 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of us seem to wait until our batteries 638 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: die to replace them. And I want to throw this 639 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: out there, and I can't take credit for it. Someone 640 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: by the name of Becky Witch. She runs a repair 641 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: shop in Lincoln, Nebraska. She talks about all the time about, 642 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, replacing batteries based on time conducive to how 643 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: they fail in her regions. And I think that's very 644 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: smart of her and the way she runs the shop. 645 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: Obviously she's well known as a shop management instructor, but 646 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: she makes comments about, you know, if the batteries fail 647 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: at three years, change them at three years, because the 648 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: warranty is only good when you have to warrantee it. 649 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 3: You know. 650 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: It's just a common sense approach to water repair. Batteries 651 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: are not maintenance. Batteries are a lifeline. Batteries ensure that 652 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle, or they're part of the insurance policy that 653 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: the vehicle will start at all hours of the day 654 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: and night, and all kinds of weather. So if you're 655 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: a shop owner and you went through a winter where 656 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: nobody's battery died, you probably did your job and changed 657 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: them accordingly. Kudos to Becky Witt. I'm not an ady 658 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 659 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 3: See Y