WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Skinwalker Ranch 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.439 Thinking Sideways is not brought to you by pickled Gizzards. Instead, 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:08.920 it's supported by the generous donations of our listeners on Patreon. 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.080 Visit patreon dot com slash thinking Sideways to learn more 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:23.880 and thanks Thinking Sideways. I don't understand you never know 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:34.800 stories of things we simply don't know the answer too. Well. Hey, there, 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:40.040 welcome to an episode of Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:47.080 joined per usual by Joe and Steve, and we're gonna 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.080 talk about a mystery. Is it really? That's a scary 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:52.320 mystery too? On top of just how do we not 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.160 do this in in October? Because not enough people asked 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:01.360 for it? I think I have asked for it. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:05.000 you've been willful ignoring I guess. So. Once again, this 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.360 is examples of where Joe doesn't look at the inbox, 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.000 does not look at the internet stuff, like at the 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.840 inbox all the time. I answered a couple of emails 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:18.280 just today he did actually thank you. So this week 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.080 we're gonna be talking about the skin Walker ranch or 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.560 how I learned to stop worrying and accept my alien overlords. 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:32.640 I like that. Yeah, oh boy, oh, I can always 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.800 tell we're in for a ride when you've subtimes given 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.200 subtext to the title of the episode. Yeah, that's true, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.200 it's gonna be Buckle up guy. That's a good one. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.039 But yeah, now this is the place So and the 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.720 Aliens finally decided to open up those those timespace portals 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.640 and flood through and take over the world. That's going 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.320 to happen here. I'm sure gonna happen here. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.240 So I'm going to give in. I'm just gonna turn 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.960 you two in as conspirators. Yeah, I'm gonna be a 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.840 total quizzling Yeah, that's funny because all they have to 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:03.800 do is listen to our backlog and they'll know who 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:10.640 their true ally is me hobnoutly obviously not yeah fake 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.440 in the whole time your sarcasm. Aliens won't know what 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.119 sarcasm is. Let's be fair right there. That's why she's 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:24.280 going to get vapori. Okay, was already off track. Al Right, restart, Okay. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.280 Today we're going to talk about what's widely accepted as 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.640 the weirdest place in America. Although I have been to 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:35.360 the Oregon Vortex, so I say, no, that's the weirdest spot. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.120 That is a weird place. Out here. I had not 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.959 been there. Actually, we've never been to my my family's house. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.360 It's actually a pretty weird place to I'll put that 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.920 on the list. Okay, that's fair. Yeah. Anyway, skin Walker 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:51.600 Ranch in Utah, since it's creation almost fifty years ago, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.920 I guess I don't know. I think that's when it 0:02:55.760 --> 0:03:04.440 became when all of it was cock solidated, but all 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.000 of the acreage was brought under one kind of umbrella. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.720 I think the house is actually built. Yeah, but all 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.359 of the land surrounding it is now skin Walker Ranch, 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.920 I think wasn't It wasn't all a part of the 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.200 same thing until so the footprint was established in fifty 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.880 years ago. That's a good way to say. Um, strange 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.640 things have been a foot there since then, including hundreds 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.760 of UFO sightings, animal mutilations, and sightings of strange animals. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:35.640 And there are fifteen distinct phenomenons that have phenomenon's phen 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.960 phenomena that have been recorded. So we're going to go 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.280 ahead and just start there. Uh No, we're not going 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.400 to talk about all fifteen. We'll talk about almost all 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.080 of the fifteen, but not all fifteen. Yeah, these are 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.640 and these started I believe in the mid nineteen nineties 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:58.880 and like correct, Yes, that's when they started being tragged cataloged, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.720 I guess, yeah, And a few of them have like 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.720 back up in that, you know, somebody who owned the 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:10.920 property before mentioned there are some articles from the seventies, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.160 the sixties and seventies that mentioned weird lights in the 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.880 sky or things like that. So that's that's a little 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.120 back up for some of these, but they weren't started 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.080 being cataloged until the nineties. Yeah, that's weird lights, lights 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.719 in the skies at this ranch, in the general area genera. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.120 I was reading, I read some of those, uh, those newspapers, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.279 you know. Thankfully Google's got all that catalog and I 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.080 found a bunch of stuff from the area from about 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.400 the sixties and seventies, late sixties forward and read a 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.200 number of them, and mostly it's weird stuff in the sky. 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.280 It's not so much what we're about to go through, 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:51.360 but it's catalogs of odd events. Yeah. Also, um, right 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.240 off the bat, before we go too far into this, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.440 I should note that a lot of these stories about 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.080 Skinwalker Ranch are contained solely in one of four separate books, 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.320 all of which were authored by a guy named Ryan Skinner, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.240 who I guess is one of the lead investigators in 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.240 the area. I'm not really sure. I'm not sure. It's 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:14.760 not totally clear. He definitely builds himself as having some 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:20.000 really strong connection to Skinwalker Ranch, but and I don't know, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:25.120 I didn't see. Well, there's Skinner, and then there's George 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:30.719 what's the reporter's name. Oh yeah, George George Knapp. Yeah, 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.080 that's the one. He's done a lot of a lot 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.000 of I would say legwork maybe, but he's another one 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:44.680 of the the sources that you'll find reference besides Walker Skinner. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:52.280 Skinner I had, But I think the actual first the 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.560 first mention of it was it was it the Desire 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:59.320 News in like nive or six. Yeah, local paper they've 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:02.040 published an article about the ranch and about the current owners, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:06.240 who are the Sherman's Terrian when Yeah, but that was 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:11.000 not George Knapp. No, it was let's let's talk about 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.880 the weird cookiness here. Come on, people want to know 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.680 about the strange thing. They want to know about all 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.400 these things. So we're just gonna like direct from the website. 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.480 This is where I pulled this list from. Format. It's 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.960 not involve format. That's true branching out and it is. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.920 It's very interesting. Um. So we're going to go through 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.000 the list and then we'll come back and address some 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:40.919 of these things. Okay, okay, cool, So on the list 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:48.640 and up, yeah, okay. No. One of the things that 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.680 I'm going to mention is that on this list, it's 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:52.560 kind of like a little bit of a spreadsheet and 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:54.440 it has like the name and like a little bit 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.080 of a description, and then like some other information and 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:59.680 then the percent chance you have of seeing this thing 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.040 if you visit Skinwalker Ranch. Someone include the percentages because 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.520 I think it's important just tell you this. Somebody figured 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.880 out how to use Excel and that's the only reason 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.320 these things are in there. But I'm not sure. Some 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.440 of these percentages are weird. So I don't know how 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.080 their couch. So I didn't say how to use it, right, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.760 they just learn how to use it. Anyway, this phenomena 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.640 you have a two per chance of seeing it, and 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.560 it's called the portal. This is a window into another 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.160 dimension that opens on the property above the property there 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.400 either orange or blue. Um. There have been no reports 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.840 of explosive lemons, however, so we are safe from gladys 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:43.840 for now, if you get it, you get it. If 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.280 you don't, you don't. Just a fallout joke. No, it's 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:50.600 definitely not a follow joke. Um. The portals open up 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.120 for about ten seconds and they're about five hundred to 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.760 a thousand feet in the air. The orange ones allow 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.400 living creatures through and the blue one is for vehicles. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.040 So what happens to a vehicle when it comes through 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.960 the portal and drops a house? No idea, it's no, 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.320 Oh my god, start trying to figure it out. No, 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.800 I don't know. I think it's like flying vehicles. Not, 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.600 it's not like terrestrial like it's not like a tank 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.640 just falls from the south. No, no, no, it keeps 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:26.720 like flying crafts. Okay, okay, like a che I was too. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.840 I was thinking, like, you know, a tank just falling 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.400 out of this guy, And I was like, that's sound 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:35.000 dangerous sitting around down below. Especially. Yeah, so you gotta 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.760 run real fast. No one of these people lost so many. Yeah. Um. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.480 Fourteen is the sentient mist. You also have a two 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.920 percent chance of seeing this, and the mist is a 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:49.720 dark smokelike entity that maybe just a transitional phase for 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.360 something else. It's often seen taking the form of a 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.240 humanoid with tentacles for arms, So it's possible it's just 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.040 Taranga Munda. I'm really sorry. There are so many nerve 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:06.240 references today. It's just no, it doesn't matter anyways. The 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:10.080 mist he uses its tentacles to toxify victims by inserting 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.960 the tentacles in the mouth and using burning dust to 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:16.600 suffocate them. The victims are immediately transported to the quote 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.280 spirit world. I'm not totally sure how we know this. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.520 It kills you, I guess by those reports, But so 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.640 I don't totally know how it is that we know 0:09:27.720 --> 0:09:30.760 that you go to the spirit world like a presumably 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.920 somebody doesn't come back to life, but you know how 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.160 many people, So I take it that they've seen this 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.079 thing a fair number of times and it kills people 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.320 every time. I have no idea, Yeah, I have no idea. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.120 I've this is this. It is like kind of a 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.520 tough one to buy into. We're going to talk about 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:53.720 that in a minute. Next up is the Cathulu slug. Yeah. Um, 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.120 it's number eleven on that list, but there's no information 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.440 about it, not even how likely we are to see it. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.959 If we went to and Walker Ranch and it looks 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.360 a whole lot like a really big leech, I think, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.720 but literally, the like the information on it is like, 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.000 it's called the Catholi slug. It's a slug, it's big, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.240 it hurts people, dead slug. That's all, okay. Next up 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:22.520 is water babies. Um. This is an actual thing that 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.760 has been described by the local native communities in their myths. 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:32.679 They were called PoCA pisas thank you. They're found in 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.040 the water near skin Walker Ranch, and they're known for 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:39.120 their vocalizations, which sounds like crying babies. The creatures in 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.360 fact resemble a small human with black hair. If you 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.720 are fooled by the crying, the water baby will drag 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.400 you into the water with all its might and drown you. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.839 No word on what happens to you at that point, 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:53.160 sir world, I guess I don't know, but you have 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.960 a six percent chance that they'll do it. I'm right 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.160 for an hour. So I don't think we said this before, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:02.719 But this whole thing take tkes place in Utah. There's 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:06.040 not a lot of water. Well, my question was, I 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:09.680 don't really know Utah to be a mecca for pot use, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.400 and yet this really sounds like what a bunch of 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.080 stoners would talk about. Oh no, not stoners, but like 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.960 some hallucin agens. Okay, guys on mushrooms. Yeah, they they 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.160 have like that. They have like pot and stuff like 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.160 that down there too. True, Yeah, that's probably okay, alright, 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.719 might be I know what to cause. Got so. I 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:31.600 don't know if you're but if you're in Utah and 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:33.800 you see a crying baby in the water, don't try 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:38.200 to rescue it. Don't. Yeah, solid advice. Yeah. Number nine, 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.640 you've got a chance of seeing this. It's the firefly 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:48.080 sparts sprites. Excuse me, firefly sprites. These creatures are just 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.800 really small balls of bluish light that float from the 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.040 ground up to the sky. Just totally natural phenomena. I 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.000 don't know why they have it on the list, because 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.920 they even say it's a natural phenomenon. But hey, call 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.559 me crazy, but these they had to get to fifteen 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.559 on that list because nobody believes the top fourteen. Yeah. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.880 But the spriots aren't going to kill you at least. No, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.880 they don't do anything. They don't interact, They just float 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.440 up to the air. Number seven is the dark one, 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.880 and this is kind of where things start to get interesting. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:21.559 You have a point oh zero zero three point zero 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:26.880 three percent chance of seeing this thing? Three percent chance, yes, 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:39.520 three three? Yet what Amy saying? Yeah, I'm bad at that. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.880 So I mean the odds of seeing the Dark One, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.000 A bet. It's still better than winning the lottery. They are, 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.920 But you know, it's interesting that the odds of seeing 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:51.440 it are so low. But it has been reported. The 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.559 sightings of the Dark One have been reported by both 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.160 the previous owners of the ranch and a lot of 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.880 the investigators that go out there. So it's it's just 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.360 weird that there are like, actually so many reports of 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.960 this thing. When they're like, but it's really really rare 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.719 that you might see it. Anyway, it might be that 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.920 they just the percentage is they just pulled him out 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.079 of thin air and it's just kind of a joke. Yeah, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.920 it's possible. I think that would require having a sense 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.640 of humor about the whole thing, which I don't think 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:24.559 they do. I went out to the website and I 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.120 coached brows, didn't listen to a bunch of different stuff, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.560 but I didn't actually thoroughly investigate it from from top 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.520 to bottom. I didn't look at every knick and cranny 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:37.320 at the website, yeah, it's fair, nor should you have Yeah, okay, 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:41.720 So he's a The phenomenon is like a vision basically, 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.559 or you see a man standing alone and he appears 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.439 to be dressed as a primitive Native American, but also 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.599 maybe like a native Southern American, like an Aztec or 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.880 Pueblo or Central American sort of thing. He doesn't speak, 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.880 and it kind of appears that he's like he's just 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.839 experiencing a time slip, because we've talked about what time 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.080 slips are before, right, people know what time slips are 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:08.400 when you're just existing in your own time and you 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.240 slip into a different time for a second and then 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:14.040 slip back into your own time. It's not that this 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.520 guy is not physically in this world, then, No, he's not. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.920 He's seen through a portal and he his surroundings are 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.240 visibly different than the surroundings that you view him in. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.200 It's like seeing him through a window. Yeah, and he's 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:32.200 always surprised that he's there and surprised that you're there. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:37.040 He doesn't speak, and there's some theory that he was 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.360 maybe the person who opened the first portal on the 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.680 land and he's like trapped there, which is what keeps 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.080 the portal alive. He's just seen for a minute or two. Um, 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.120 And like I said, the environment's different around him than 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.240 where you are, Like if you're standing in the forest, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.480 it's like he's standing in a desert sort of thing. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.760 I don't know if it's that pronounced, but I now 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:01.280 know where the entire concept of haven came from. Yeah, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:08.920 another anomaly. This is Joe's favorite. Yeah, likely to see 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.360 the bulletproof wolf. And this bulletproof wolf appears to be 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.800 almost a like dire wolf size, really large and imposing 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.520 and of course black actually a naturally large and that's 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.880 what they say, unnaturally large. The owners of the ranch 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.200 feel that it's a physical manifestation of whatever quote whatever 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.240 intelligence is on the ranch unquote, And it sounds like 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.600 there's a lot of intelligences on the ranch. So I 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.480 don't know which intelligence we're talking about, like if it's 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.800 the native component or the alien component or the whole 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.520 ranch was built on top of an Indian burial ground. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.680 Absolutely was, all of Utah was built over Indian burial ground. 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.840 So to be fair, here, apparently it looks like a 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:57.360 normal wolf but is bigger, but quote doesn't act like 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.040 one unquote Joe, I just heard the story, you know 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.920 that that it was like right after they moved into 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.040 the ranch, the Shermans, Yeah, the Sherman's. Yeah, Terry and 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:10.320 Gwen Sherman moved in and then this wolf shows up, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.960 but he's not being aggressive or anything like that, but 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.560 comes over to them and sort of like says high 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.640 and then goes over and try and started trying to 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.760 like like pull a calf out of a pan. Yeah, 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:23.480 And so they got a gun and they shot it 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.960 and it just didn't phase it at all. And they 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.960 shot it again and something like some guy got his 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.960 high powered thirty six and shot it and that took 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:32.400 a little bit of patch of fur off of it, 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.240 but other than that, didn't face it at all. So 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.000 I shot it like four times, Yeah, and then it 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.640 just like wandered away. It could be. It could also 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.760 be it's not bulletproof and they were shooting at it 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.280 and they were missing. Yeah, there's always that sounds no, No, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:49.680 there's a good, guys, good never missed. Flash drones are 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:52.680 number two on the list. Um, there's a one in 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.000 four chance that you'll see a flash drone if you 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.600 visit Skinwalker Ranch. Oh, I thought this was a rave thing. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.120 It's just a light. I mean, really, it's just delight. Apparently, however, 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:07.360 they have intelligence behind them that exactly they are curious. 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:12.520 They're described as curious. Yeah, that they'll like approach humans 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:18.359 and stuff like that. Yeah, I don't totally no, And 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.920 actually on the website, this is the anomaly that's written 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.040 about the most. But apparently they can mess with the 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:30.560 electronics these lights, specifically the electronics of the house. Um, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.320 they hover silently and they they, like I said, they're 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:37.639 kind of curious, and apparently they will approach people. And 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.720 they are influenced by meditation, so if you meditate near them, 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.600 they'll react in a way. That's one more reason not 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.719 to meditate. You got to close your eyes to meditate, right, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.560 I'm not closing my eyes around those things. And because 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.919 I can't leave out the most frequently cited thing, Um, 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.280 we have the spotlight. You have a forty six percent 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.879 chance of seeing this. I'm gonna go ahead and briefly 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.679 mention the fact that there is not a single phenomenon 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.359 on the list that you are more than likely to 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.480 see at any given time. Some nice possible deniability there 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.400 Exactly if you go out there and have a look 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.040 around there. I don't know, flip of a coin, you 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.120 got a bad night, sorry, man. Yeah, it's like a motorcycle. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.639 The spotlight apparently it's like a motorcycle driving anywhere between 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.120 ten and forty miles per hour, which is like actually 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:31.560 huge variants, but okay, about eight feet off the ground. Serious, yeah, serious, black, 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.080 I'm pretty sure. Yeah, and the spot I can read minds. Yeah, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:39.160 apparently it can read minds sometimes, but not always. Sometimes 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:40.840 it has a tailight, sometimes it doesn't, but it can 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:45.800 read a red light very specific, very specific, yeah, sometimes, 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.520 but not always sometimes. So yeah, you guys want to 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.840 talk about which one of those do you like? What's 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.880 your favorite? None of them? Let's talk about all of them. 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:02.800 So Skinwalker Ranch is near off Fort You Shane, thank you, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.720 which is like forty or fifty miles from the border 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.800 of Colorado. I'm right about that. Yeah, that's up in 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:17.920 that It's it's that weird northeastern notch of the stage. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.840 So it's at Fort Chane. It's a little a little 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.040 white spot in the road about six people, I think 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.560 pretty much. Yeah, and the ranch is just south of it. Yeah, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.080 and as far as we can tell on Google Maps. Um, 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.040 even though this ranch isn't actually you have to like 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:36.160 kind of guess where when you search the the address 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.080 of the ranch house, it's like that place doesn't exist. 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:42.560 If I found I think one of the websites, it 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.200 might be when you gave us where I found it 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.320 had the coordinates. Yeah, and if you put in the cordinates. 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.520 The only thing that I ever found that mentions skin 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:55.359 Walker Ranch is a photo that somebody put up that's 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.359 titled skin Walker Ranch Entrance. That's the only way you 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.840 find it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went and looked 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.600 on Google Maps and then I just called it. I 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.960 think it's Pounce, Uinta County. I called their assessor's office 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.919 and got the guy to look on to look at 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.960 the plat map for the area and also look at 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.879 Google and he gave me the parcel number for that 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.040 that particular spot and that's and I was able to 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:19.680 look it up and that is indeed owned by Big 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:24.280 A Little Utah LLC. This guy us phone, Yeah, calling 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.960 the third time in three months, used to phone like 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.120 it if I can't find it on Google, it does 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.960 not exist in the world. Is here? Somebody? I could 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.879 have just texted yeah. As an aside. When I had 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:40.840 this this guy from the county on the phone, I said, hey, 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:44.199 you know I do a podcast. And I said, if 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:45.639 you heard of the skin Walker rash and he goes, 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:49.000 oh yeah, and and you know, I said, so apparently 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.000 lots of people have seen all kinds of strange things. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.840 He says, yeah, that's what I hear, and it's I 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.000 And I said, I said, well, have you ever seen anything? 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.639 And he said now, I said, do you know anybody 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.160 who's ever seen anything? He said no. And I said, 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.679 do you know anybody who knows anybody who's ever seen anything? 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:10.560 He said no, Yeah, which is actually really good information 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.320 because when you read about this online, you'll hear like 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.680 this county, there's like so much phenomenon, like everybody in 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:21.359 the county has seen something. You will literally read like 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.320 almost verbade him that thing. You know, It's like it's 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.440 such a weird place that everybody who lives in that 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.280 town has seen. And obviously that's not true. No, it's not. 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.920 I am I also call it. It's a local newspaper 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.440 in Vernal, Utah, which is a town about I don't know. 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:41.840 Tanner Tanner, fifteen miles northeast of Fort Duche. They have 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.280 a little newspaper they're called the Vernal Express, and so 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.480 I got on their website and I called one of 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:51.480 the reporters, a woman named Liberty Best. Hadn't chat with her, 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.080 and I said, well, about the skin Walker ranch thing 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.399 you've heard? And she said, oh yeah. Asked her the 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.040 same set of questions I asked the guy at the 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.000 county and there was always no. She doesn't know anybody 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:02.960 who knows anybody's seen anything. And I asked her if 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.159 she'd ever talked to the shermans. She'd never had, and 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.760 then uh, I called the Uinta County I think it's 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:15.440 Uintah County slightly mispronounced it, sorry, Sheriff's office and talked 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.080 to somebody there because I wanted to find out or 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.080 there are lots of reports of UFOs or mutilated cattle. 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:27.040 Not really. Now, first I talked to you is like 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:30.760 she was really she was very nice, and she said 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:32.880 she'd never seen anything. She said her parents did see 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.880 some weird stuff years ago, but she was she didn't 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.960 say exactly what it was. That's that's about it. I mean, 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.720 that's that's that's not exactly a comprehensive survey of the 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:43.679 people of the area. But it's not not I mean, 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:46.440 if there's only like a thousand people who live in 0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.040 the area, right, I mean, you think somebody would know somebody. 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:51.919 Somebody should one of those three people should know somebody 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.720 who knows somebody who you know. And I guess if 0:22:54.840 --> 0:22:58.119 the woman's mom and dad saw something like then okay, 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:01.200 there's a sample there. But but you know, I've seen 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:03.960 weird things in life. Yeah, And if there's this amount, 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:08.280 if there's if as reported as much stuff is happening 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:12.040 as is reported, people they should be seeing stuff left 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.600 and right. I mean realistically absolutely, and it's it. And 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.760 and there's lots of surrounding properties near the ranch were 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.440 with houses on them, people who living there, and you know, 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.080 so yeah, it's not as if it's desolate. No, there's 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.200 plenty of plenty of people living in the area. Also, 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.760 UM as a fun little note to remind everyone, UM, 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:37.119