Speaker 1: To on the move Going Deep speedwas Peace Doll. From
Speaker 1: the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: He's got my ad hands in the playoffs. What is up,
Speaker 1: Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. I am
Speaker 1: your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, the fifth
Speaker 1: practice of camp is in the books. The defense tightened
Speaker 1: up the screws from the last two offensive heavy practices.
Speaker 1: Plenty of wins on either side. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: some of the standouts outside of the usual stars you're
Speaker 1: used to hearing about and help us do that. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from David Long, Durham Smyth, Patrick Paul and Nick Needham.
Speaker 1: Plus we will not gloss over a very sloppy practice
Speaker 1: in general. From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 1: Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: The Drivetime Podcast. May I want to shift the theme
Speaker 1: of the show just a little bit. Today we'll tell
Speaker 1: you about the day. We always will do that for
Speaker 1: you guys. My boots on the ground, are my eyes
Speaker 1: in the stands, are my lips to your guys's ears
Speaker 1: about everything going on at Miami Dolphins practice, but I
Speaker 1: think the some of the soundbites we had, some of
Speaker 1: the repeat performances we've.
Speaker 2: Had through the first five days.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure to get some notes on
Speaker 1: there on some guys that have been consistently good that
Speaker 1: maybe you haven't heard about outside of this podcast, and
Speaker 1: probably Lockdown Dolphins with the great Kyle Kravis, guys like
Speaker 1: Zeke Vandenberg, Elijah Campbell, Julian Hill, Quintin Bell, who all
Speaker 1: made plays on this Monday, which, by the way, what's
Speaker 1: the longest you've ever operated on thinking it was the
Speaker 1: wrong day? Like I thought it was Tuesday all day today.
Speaker 1: I took my trash bins out on Sunday night because
Speaker 1: the trash the garbage man comes on Tuesdays. That having
Speaker 1: a day off and then coming back on Sunday. My god,
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten the schedule right this week a whole lot.
Speaker 1: I'm just now realizing once again that it is in
Speaker 1: fact Monday and not Tuesday. But first, you don't care
Speaker 1: about that. Let's talk about sloppy football. Not Jacoby Brissett
Speaker 1: big slops, but just some sloppy play and balls on
Speaker 1: the ground and false starts and mishandling and some off
Speaker 1: target throws and some drops. It just wasn't very crisp
Speaker 1: on this first day of padded to practices. And I
Speaker 1: want to also try to set the narrative straight here,
Speaker 1: because this was again a totally sloppy practice by far,
Speaker 1: the worst of camp so far. And you're gonna have those,
Speaker 1: but let's also apply some context here. Yes, the ball
Speaker 1: was on the ground a lot several players were or
Speaker 1: plays rather were shut down because we just couldn't get
Speaker 1: the operation right from the onset and that's frustrating, and honestly,
Speaker 1: it kind of robbed a lot of the two reps
Speaker 1: you might have been expecting on this particular day. Now,
Speaker 1: that's unacceptable, unequivocally, right, we agree on that it cannot
Speaker 1: happen come September. And I do agree with Ryan Smith,
Speaker 1: the pro football focused Dolphins guy who tweeted about this,
Speaker 1: that even the best centers in the NFL have snap
Speaker 1: issues at times, especially in the modern NFL. Like go
Speaker 1: to Chiefs Twitter, and I remember this last year when
Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey was I think it was either his Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl nomination or announcement, or maybe it was all Pro
Speaker 1: and they were like well, maybe next year we can
Speaker 1: move Creed to guard because his snaps stink. And it
Speaker 1: reminds me of last year when we saw a lot
Speaker 1: of tweets about moving Connor Williams to guard, and I
Speaker 1: kept saying, trust me, his athletic ability at the center
Speaker 1: position is what you do not want to have to replace.
Speaker 1: He's been the best center of this Dolphins team has had,
Speaker 1: probably since Mike Pouncy. Which is funny because now all
Speaker 1: I see is how bad people want Connor back first center.
Speaker 1: I saw some content creators. I saw lots of fans
Speaker 1: last year imploring we moved to Leah Miikenberg. At times,
Speaker 1: I saw that from some folks. So, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: we use knowledge from years past to apply to future
Speaker 1: you know, outrage, but maybe we don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Smith from Pro Football Focus is right to
Speaker 1: a degree. I mean, like again, it cannot ruin drives
Speaker 1: like it did last year. Right, it's an issue at
Speaker 1: that point, But I want to say this, you know,
Speaker 1: this system, especially when it's a brand new center with
Speaker 1: brand new guards around him, with Isaiah Winn not participating
Speaker 1: in practice yet that's going to take a minute, but
Speaker 1: especially in this system, where getting off the football is
Speaker 1: literally the core principal number one. I think the results
Speaker 1: you saw today they're an occupational hazard of a pretty
Speaker 1: new core in there, paired with a scheme that stresses
Speaker 1: getting the hell off the football. So I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of tweets passing blame around. I put the tweet
Speaker 1: out there. I wanted to put the tweet out there
Speaker 1: to give you guys comprehensive coverage so that it's not
Speaker 1: all sunshine and rainbows from my account, because typically I
Speaker 1: like to focus on the plays that are made, not
Speaker 1: the negatives, and I'll usually give you the guy that
Speaker 1: got beat right. But I thought it was important on
Speaker 1: this day to help craft what we're seeing and to
Speaker 1: help generate a timeline for evolution or de evolution from
Speaker 1: where this offense goes from here. Because it was an
Speaker 1: ugly day, I think that's important to get out to
Speaker 1: you guys. And again, I get the panic that comes
Speaker 1: from the results of last year, and it's okay to
Speaker 1: work the kinks out in July. But again, you can't
Speaker 1: have the opening season drive that you march right down
Speaker 1: the field against the Chargers result in a failed exchange,
Speaker 1: turnover or the Titan snap on that opening drive that
Speaker 1: cost us seven points in that game. That would have
Speaker 1: changed the entire season, right, you would have hosted the
Speaker 1: Steelers in the playoffs or the Chiefs snap that probably
Speaker 1: cost us that game. Where also you would have hosted
Speaker 1: the Steelers in the playoffs, and we don't have a
Speaker 1: twenty four year playoff drought anymore if that all happens.
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you guys with the pitchforks. But
Speaker 1: it is July, so give this thing to time to breathe.
Speaker 1: That's my whole point. But again, it was a very
Speaker 1: sloppy practice from Miami Dolphin. Let's go ahead and start
Speaker 1: where we typically do with the quarterbacks. And I thought
Speaker 1: this was one of the best practices I've seen from
Speaker 1: Skyler Thompson. And I think he's actually been putting together
Speaker 1: a pretty good start to camp. In fact, to me,
Speaker 1: by far, his best opening five days of his three
Speaker 1: years of training camp. He dialed up an absolute dime
Speaker 1: on a deep shot the Tyreek for a sixty yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: In fact, I saw the play happen to play out
Speaker 1: because I was watching the offensive line with the binoculars.
Speaker 2: I see it's a runfake. I pulled the binoculars down.
Speaker 1: I look down into the route stems and try to
Speaker 1: pick up what's going on in the coverage, and there
Speaker 1: I see Tyreek Hill burning past everybody and the ball
Speaker 1: just descends right into the bread basket. Like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was good throw to a It wasn't doing it was Skylar.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I didn't There's one guy in
Speaker 1: the scene that I thought could make that throw. And man,
Speaker 1: Tyreek tracks that thing so very well, just smooth in control,
Speaker 1: good acceleration over the shoulder, doesn't like attack the football,
Speaker 1: it's to come to him. We had some other deep
Speaker 1: shot connections that did not happen for whatever reason, including
Speaker 1: one from Tua to Waddle where he got a step
Speaker 1: and I thought it was right on the money from
Speaker 1: Tua but Wattle kind of stumbled to it when it
Speaker 1: was in flight. And Tanner O'Connor had one where he
Speaker 1: got three steps on top of Patrick McMorris and tried
Speaker 1: to adjust and it looked clunky and it was an
Speaker 1: underthrow from Scylar Thompson on the play. So he comes
Speaker 1: back to the ball, but his adjustment actually did produce
Speaker 1: a window for him to catch it over mc morris
Speaker 1: but then he dropped the football, so it just wasn't
Speaker 1: sharp in that regard. And then you see Cheetah do
Speaker 1: it and glad to know for the touchdown. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, if you're struggling to just go ahead and
Speaker 1: throw up to Tyreek and he'll make that play for you.
Speaker 1: But which again, like that's why Tyreek is so special, right,
Speaker 1: because like we've seen so many guys come into this
Speaker 1: league with blazing speed, like John Ross, right, the former
Speaker 1: record holder for the fastest forty yard dash time until
Speaker 1: oh man, who broke it this year.
Speaker 2: I just forgot his name. That's gonna haunt me.
Speaker 1: You guys, get at me on the replies who broke
Speaker 1: the forty yard dash record this year? I forgot anyway
Speaker 1: when it was John Ross, like he couldn't play because
Speaker 1: he couldn't really do anything, you know, stay healthy. But
Speaker 1: tracking that deep ball is a very very difficult task,
Speaker 1: and Tyreek is the best I've ever seen at it.
Speaker 1: But unbalance, very nice day from Scalar Thompson, who I
Speaker 1: think has really pushed Mike White this week.
Speaker 2: In the number two race.
Speaker 1: Skyler did try to force one in that could have
Speaker 1: been picked off by Vandenberg, but he instead deflected it
Speaker 1: and it was then secured by Jilen Ramsey, who if
Speaker 1: the ball finds you know, five's wingspan, he's gonna catch
Speaker 1: the damn thing. It was an impressive stad that he
Speaker 1: made to bring that thing in. And then Mike White
Speaker 1: also got picked by Jason Mira. I think I'm saying
Speaker 1: that right when his eyes took Mike Tray from a
Speaker 1: cloud corner position, he fell back into coverage, reading the
Speaker 1: quarterback size and got a room service pick off of that,
Speaker 1: peeling back into the fifteen yard or twenty yard curl
Speaker 1: zone down the field. It's been a rough camp for
Speaker 1: my guy, Mike White, but I hope hopefully he can
Speaker 1: bounce back from this and pick it back up tomorrow
Speaker 1: and get playing better. So not that electric of a
Speaker 1: practice like we had on Friday from two a tongue
Speaker 1: of by lower even Sunday, but it was his usual
Speaker 1: sharp self outside of the you know, failed exchanges that
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't think it's a two
Speaker 1: A thing. I think it's the center trying to get
Speaker 1: the hell out of the snap count. But I really
Speaker 1: appreciate the footwork, the ball handling and the variety of
Speaker 1: drops that you can get to because of Tua's skill
Speaker 1: set where he can move and reset and reposition the
Speaker 1: feet and throw from these different armslots. There was a
Speaker 1: lengthy install period, and in fact, Joe Rose was up
Speaker 1: in the stands today and he said that he believes
Speaker 1: the sloppiness that happened in the day was likely a
Speaker 1: result of loading up some install and you kind of
Speaker 1: chip away at it, like try to find out what works,
Speaker 1: what doesn't, and let's go ahead and boil this thing
Speaker 1: down through difficult circumstances and get better on the other
Speaker 1: side from that which all tracks. Because again, it was
Speaker 1: a sloppy practice and not what I'm used to from
Speaker 1: a Mike McDaniel Dolphin's football team. I've had lots of
Speaker 1: these practices under the previous regime, and Brian Flores haven't
Speaker 1: seen many of them under Mike McDaniel, But I can't
Speaker 1: say for sure, but all of that adds up to me.
Speaker 1: But in that install period, the quarterbacks are going through
Speaker 1: different tracks and routes and different ways to get to
Speaker 1: their handoffs. We saw that play that was so popular
Speaker 1: last year where they would you know, fake the dive
Speaker 1: to a side of the formation that was vacant of
Speaker 1: a running back and then flip it back across the grain.
Speaker 1: And there was some big plays that came from that,
Speaker 1: some big losses that came from that. Like those types
Speaker 1: of things only get ran in this system or San
Speaker 1: Francisco as well. And Tua's first throw of the day
Speaker 1: was one where quite frankly, I don't think there's another
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league that you can call these types
Speaker 1: of plays into. And we go back to the Baltimore
Speaker 1: game last year. Remember Lamar Jackson took that like reverse
Speaker 1: pivot drop step and everyone's like, oh, look at Lamar
Speaker 1: messing with the Dolphins defense, Like he got that from Tua.
Speaker 1: Like Tua did that all year last year. And you know,
Speaker 1: if Lamar can do it, great, and he did and
Speaker 1: he burns for a touchdown. But Tua does these subtle
Speaker 1: little things that this is why I don't think Tuda
Speaker 1: gets the love that some other guys do, because of
Speaker 1: the cebleties in his game that are so much better
Speaker 1: than his counterparts. And you know, I referenced jt O
Speaker 1: Soldan on the podcast a lot last year, and he
Speaker 1: raves about Tua's ability to go from a position where
Speaker 1: he's not a threat to throw, which the defense can
Speaker 1: read and key on. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he's back in Pozzi or that one where he's in
Speaker 1: pistol and he fakes to the right and comes the
Speaker 1: rpo glance off the left like it's like a blind
Speaker 1: throw with a one point eighty spin.
Speaker 2: It's just really impressive to watch him go through that.
Speaker 1: He did the exact same thing todayhere we hit a
Speaker 1: nice rip to River Craycraft for a nice gain in
Speaker 1: a sauce spot in the zone. He had some pops
Speaker 1: to wallow for good gains. Had a throw on the
Speaker 1: move that I thought was a thing of beauty where
Speaker 1: he escaped a pressure from Jordan Brooks off of a
Speaker 1: really good pass pro pickup from Raheem Moster. Stepping up
Speaker 1: through the outside pressure, attacks the lion of scrimmage, flattens
Speaker 1: the line, don't run the football, go ahead and stay
Speaker 1: vertical to the line of scrimmage so we can still
Speaker 1: throw the ball. And he puts the thing on a
Speaker 1: dot between the one and the zero Tyreek who did
Speaker 1: a great job coming back to the football for about
Speaker 1: fifteen yards.
Speaker 2: So a nice day.
Speaker 1: From number one and for Waddle and Riek as well,
Speaker 1: and just real quick here on waddle Man. He's had
Speaker 1: a really good camp. And this is a guy that
Speaker 1: got injured on the first day of joint practices against
Speaker 1: the Falcons last year in the opening one on one period,
Speaker 1: and we didn't see him again until that Chargers game
Speaker 1: on opening Day where he was limited in a snap
Speaker 1: gap play. But I think forty five percent of the
Speaker 1: snaps against the Chargers an opening Day, and so now
Speaker 1: he's got a full camp and I think that he's
Speaker 1: he's maximizing it. I think he's maximizing what he did
Speaker 1: this offseason because I haven't seen him let a single
Speaker 1: football get to his body.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen him drop a single football.
Speaker 1: And I've seen him make several catches off of his
Speaker 1: frame where he plucks it with very strong hands, and
Speaker 1: he's been tough over the middle. He's been making sliding
Speaker 1: catches over the mill like he did today. I think
Speaker 1: Waddle has comfortably had the best camp of the receivers,
Speaker 1: and that includes Tyreek Hill, which is good because Tyreek's
Speaker 1: not been too shabby himself either. I thought Brax and
Speaker 1: Barrios had his best day so far. Some nice catches
Speaker 1: in intermediate. In fact, I just saw him down getting
Speaker 1: a snack and I said, hey, Braxon had a few
Speaker 1: catches to day, Honey goes yeah, a few, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: he had good day today, dude.
Speaker 2: God good good football. Good football is good. The good
Speaker 2: the football is good.
Speaker 1: But had a nice diving catch on a over route
Speaker 1: from Mike white Lay in practice, Jalen Wright continues to.
Speaker 2: Impress me. Be quite honest with you guys.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of nine pops today and his
Speaker 1: easy glide running to the perimeter where he can stretch it,
Speaker 1: see it and then hit it.
Speaker 2: It's so smooth.
Speaker 1: You see the fit in this system so very clearly.
Speaker 1: Like we did with a Chan in the last year.
Speaker 1: I see the exact same thing for Jalen right, and
Speaker 1: they're different players. It is a chan esque with maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of sacrifice in the speed department, but
Speaker 1: in exchange for more physicality and hopefully but our durability,
Speaker 1: because that's like all the only things standing into Bond
Speaker 1: eight Chan's way right now is durability. And I'm not
Speaker 1: at all interested in saying like goodbye to Raheem Moster
Speaker 1: because he scored twenty one freaking touchdowns last year, and
Speaker 1: he runs like he's pissed off all the time when
Speaker 1: he's fast as hell, and he's a great fit. He's
Speaker 1: a great locker room guy and a great leader on
Speaker 1: this team. I think he has lots of good football
Speaker 1: left in him, lots of good a football Mario and
Speaker 1: the big But I think the future is ridiculously bright
Speaker 1: with those two young guys back there, because they're going
Speaker 1: to both be ambrickey contracts through the twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: or no sorry, twenty three, twenty two, four to the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season, twenty seven for Jalen Wright, and
Speaker 1: that's if you don't franchise tag them. But I think
Speaker 1: it's it's the fruits of this room are gonna bear
Speaker 1: out very nicely with those two guys. Raheem hefe Chris
Speaker 1: Brooks like it's the best running back room in football.
Speaker 2: If yes, me, what else here? Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm gonna go through the roster for the day
Speaker 1: and we'll stop on the unsung players and do it
Speaker 1: throughout here because I get here to the tight end position,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about Julian Hill, who I
Speaker 1: thought was just an absolute menace today was clanking noggins
Speaker 1: with dudes out there. And we saw him last year
Speaker 1: come across the formation on that jet motion where he
Speaker 1: would pick off the edge and just inflict punishment on
Speaker 1: that force defender and clear some room for our backs
Speaker 1: going around the outside. And today he was on point
Speaker 1: over and over again doing that and durham Smyth, you
Speaker 1: know the vet of the room. I guess Johona Smith
Speaker 1: is too now. He touched on this. That physicality, he said,
Speaker 1: is unlike anything Durham Smyth has ever played with in
Speaker 1: the National Football League.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would venture to say Julian might the
Speaker 3: most physical tight end in the NFL across the entire board.
Speaker 3: I don't care what year you are. He's the most
Speaker 3: physical player I've ever played with. And he's he's a
Speaker 3: professional from day one. This is the main thing, is
Speaker 3: the main thing for him, and this is what he
Speaker 3: cares about. And that really sets apart rookies, especially undrafted
Speaker 3: free agents, some guys who care as much as he does.
Speaker 3: And the sky's the limit for him, you know. He
Speaker 3: like I said, he's he's the most physical guy I've
Speaker 3: ever played with. He's got talent outside of that, too,
Speaker 3: that he's building on as a young player. The sky
Speaker 3: this really the sky is the limit for Julian Gosh.
Speaker 2: I love hearing Durham smythew media.
Speaker 1: He's so intelligent, articulate and just sees the game in
Speaker 1: a way that makes him so valuable to this offense.
Speaker 1: And those comments about Julian man like, hey, stay close
Speaker 1: to eighty one eighty nine and you'll do just fine.
Speaker 1: I had a few runs today where Hill was the
Speaker 1: one that wiped out the edge entirely. But I thought
Speaker 1: his best block was in past pro because there was
Speaker 1: a play where Connor was in this like backfield set
Speaker 1: in twelve personnel and that they were the two tight
Speaker 1: ends in the field to the same side of the formation,
Speaker 1: and Grayson Murphy gets a pass rush against both of them,
Speaker 1: and he splits them with his rush, and Connor kind
Speaker 1: of gave ground and his anger didn't really take against Murphy,
Speaker 1: and Hill kind of peeled back and put Murphy on
Speaker 1: the turf and it prevented another Grayson Murphy sack. And
Speaker 1: it was really impressive, like a quarterback saving block. Just
Speaker 1: really impressed by his work as kind of this like
Speaker 1: sixth offensive lineman sometimes and that can be something that
Speaker 1: maybe you factor into how this team is built with
Speaker 1: regards to the offensive line, you know, maybe not looking
Speaker 1: like you guys want to as far as the fan
Speaker 1: base goes. Maybe that's where Julian Hill and guys like that,
Speaker 1: and Johnny Smith and Dermam Smyth maybe in alec Ingold like,
Speaker 1: there is some more you can do scheme wise to
Speaker 1: get more out of your pass pro and we always
Speaker 1: see that with this offense in season, Like it's never
Speaker 1: gonna show up in training camp when you're not trying
Speaker 1: to game plan for teams, but it always shows up.
Speaker 1: I think that's very important to think about. To me,
Speaker 1: for Julian Hills, this says that he's seeing it as
Speaker 1: the old cliche says for a player in year two, right,
Speaker 1: like the game slows down for him. In fact, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead and go back to Durham Smyth who discussed
Speaker 1: how Julian has harnessed that physicality in his game.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things is, you know, just
Speaker 3: tempo control. He's always been not one to shy away
Speaker 3: from contact. He's always been a very physical person. But
Speaker 3: there were times early in camp last year, maybe early
Speaker 3: in the season where he was just out there trying
Speaker 3: to crush somebody every time, and maybe half the time
Speaker 3: he is. Half the time he's missing. Now it's a
Speaker 3: tempo thing where he understands when to pull the trigger
Speaker 3: and he's not missing a lot, and when he doesn't miss,
Speaker 3: he's making himself felt. So I think it's just something
Speaker 3: that it takes time to get used to with the
Speaker 3: speed of the game, players speed, and he's definitely understanding that.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: We'll hear more from Durham later on. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and get back to the offensive line real quick. In
Speaker 1: a couple of soundbites here from Patrick Paul and the
Speaker 1: guy that had yet another good day of work. We
Speaker 1: highlighted him yesterday with Kendall Lamb's comment, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask Pat to give us an update on where
Speaker 1: he felt he was at the technique changes he talked
Speaker 1: about back in and how he's applied them here for
Speaker 1: the month of August.
Speaker 2: Although it's late July.
Speaker 5: Here's Patrick Ball say, it's been good, you know, been
Speaker 5: coached up by Butch and all the other guys. It's
Speaker 5: been good. You know, they're just telling me every day
Speaker 5: it's small victories and focusing on the small goals and
Speaker 5: details every single day. Once you keep doing that over time,
Speaker 5: it's just you know, stacking jail together.
Speaker 1: And one thing every single offensive lineman has to get
Speaker 1: used to down here, right as we've heard Mike frank
Speaker 1: and going back to Rob Hunt or Austin Jackson. Really,
Speaker 1: anyone who's played done here running off the football and
Speaker 1: that takes some time to get acclimated to. Here is
Speaker 1: how Pat thinks he is getting acclimated to this new offense.
Speaker 5: I'd say acclimation to the speed of the ball. It's
Speaker 5: definitely something that you got to keep honing it on
Speaker 5: every day. But during OTAs and stuff and rookie minicamp,
Speaker 5: you know, you get the hint of it. And my coach, Butch,
Speaker 5: he's very great at just showing you what needs to
Speaker 5: be done. So every day we're just going to keep
Speaker 5: attacking it, learning the playbook, getting the understanding everything.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and just.
Speaker 1: To finish up this segment and put a bow on this,
Speaker 1: how fortunate are we to have Butch barry Man, like,
Speaker 1: we've heard nothing but these testimonials from guy guys again
Speaker 1: going back to Austin or brewer're talking about it or
Speaker 1: Patrick Paul. Now we saw what happened last year with AJ.
Speaker 1: We've seen so much progress from so many guys, and
Speaker 1: damn it, if Patrick Paul becomes that bookend long term
Speaker 1: opposite Austin Jackson, tackle play is vastly more important than
Speaker 1: interior offensive line play in the system.
Speaker 2: Just trust me on that. And if you have those
Speaker 2: two guys at what Austin.
Speaker 1: Jackson's current salary is and Patrick Paul in a second
Speaker 1: round rookie contract, well then you can go out and
Speaker 1: you can buy your big time guard if you want to,
Speaker 1: or just keep paying you know, star players on the
Speaker 1: outside to give you the number one offense in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. And look, I don't expect this to
Speaker 1: pick up just yet. I think these struggles are to
Speaker 1: be expected as they work through who the best five
Speaker 1: are as they work in the usual stars, because remember
Speaker 1: your left tackle and your left guard haven't practiced yet,
Speaker 1: and we've seen Keon Smith and Ryan Hayes get worked
Speaker 1: inside a little bit. Rob Jones has had some up
Speaker 1: and down play. I haven't been a big fan of
Speaker 1: seventy four. Iikeenberg's work. Brewer has been up and down. Lester,
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot like last year's tape. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine this is the final product we get, and
Speaker 1: that's beyond getting Armstead and Isaiah winback. Driscoll, I think
Speaker 1: it's had it pretty tough so far, but he's also
Speaker 1: played you know, three different spots. And that's why I
Speaker 1: just say, like, give it time. If you project, you know,
Speaker 1: day five as the final product, you're just flat out
Speaker 1: doing it wrong.
Speaker 2: This is the time to work through it.
Speaker 1: They're working to develop, not to win a game tomorrow,
Speaker 1: which is why I don't care about a sloppy practice
Speaker 1: so much as long as you respond the right way,
Speaker 1: and those things are going to happen. And sorry, I
Speaker 1: talk you know too much golf here on the podcast,
Speaker 1: but one of the things that happened to me in
Speaker 1: my golf game was that helped me go to the
Speaker 1: next level of my golf game was accepting that there
Speaker 1: are going to be days where you do not have it.
Speaker 1: Accept the days where you're going to shoot eighty seven
Speaker 1: and learn from those days and stay on the grind
Speaker 1: and stay to it because when you commit to it
Speaker 1: and you're consistent, that's when you get better results. It
Speaker 1: gives coach a chance to correct those things to get
Speaker 1: them on tape so now we can correct and refine.
Speaker 2: That's my whole spiel.
Speaker 1: Bad day for the offense, particularly on the line, and
Speaker 1: just sloppy football, but I have little doubt it'll be
Speaker 1: just real quick. Before the break, shout out to alec Ingold,
Speaker 1: who had some awesome blocks today, including one where he
Speaker 1: got on the perimeter and squared up David Long to
Speaker 1: spring a Chan for a big play. Another steady as
Speaker 1: she goes camp for the captain back there. All right,
Speaker 1: first break, We're gonna go to the defense the rest
Speaker 1: of the way and talk about some more unsungs. We
Speaker 1: have more audio extra points and the Orange Jersey prediction
Speaker 1: killing it so far over four. That's all next Drive
Speaker 1: Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by
Speaker 1: Auto Nation. Let's get to the defense here in segment
Speaker 1: number two and start up front on a line that
Speaker 1: got some criticism over the summer for how it was constructed.
Speaker 1: And you guys know that one of my favorite content
Speaker 1: creators is Brett Coleman, and he has the Dolphins missing
Speaker 1: the playoffs because of lack of depth on both lines,
Speaker 1: and I just don't see that on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: And I've told you guys about how this team is
Speaker 1: built from the offensive line perspective, I just strongly disagree
Speaker 1: with that, although I respect the hell out of Brett's opinion,
Speaker 1: and I just you know, especially when you can say
Speaker 1: the lines that Weaver had in Baltimore that were built
Speaker 1: around one or two guys who you know. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: I think look a lot like Seeler and Campbell do
Speaker 1: with like Matdabueke and oh Man who Brent Urban or
Speaker 1: what not? Brent Urban who I'm thinking of, who's the oh,
Speaker 1: Michael Pierce.
Speaker 2: Michael Pierce.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their nose tackle. But Seeler and Campbell can do
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff and then a very healthy
Speaker 1: rotation of guys that can get their wins in three
Speaker 1: hundred snaps a season, which is what I see for
Speaker 1: Benito Jones and Jonathan Harris and Neville Gallimore. And we
Speaker 1: saw one of those guys score a lot of wins today.
Speaker 1: Nevill Gallimore had two sacks by my account, including an
Speaker 1: awesome swim move that quickly dispatched Keyon Smith from that
Speaker 1: three technique going against against the guard where he blended
Speaker 1: quickness and power and that low center of gravity that
Speaker 1: we saw at Oklahoma where he won all kinds of
Speaker 1: different pass rush reps from five and three techniques. Then
Speaker 1: he got bumped inside to the nose tackle or the
Speaker 1: one shade you know over the center in Dallas. But
Speaker 1: we saw him utilize those same skill sets today for
Speaker 1: a bunch of big wins. He got a guard to
Speaker 1: overset with an upfield rush and then face again for
Speaker 1: the sack. A very nice day for number ninety. One
Speaker 1: of my stars of the day was the guy in
Speaker 1: the orange jersey, Zach Stealer, and I just noted his
Speaker 1: effort because like, yeah, it's your job, and if you
Speaker 1: don't work hard, you're not going to produce like Zach has.
Speaker 1: But I put a lot of stock into a proven
Speaker 1: six year veteran who plays on July twenty ninth like
Speaker 1: it's January twenty ninth.
Speaker 2: In the AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1: His effort on two plays to the perimeter was so
Speaker 1: damn impressive. From that position, he needs an edge to
Speaker 1: help make the back bubble or bang, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: cut it back inside up into the grain or bubble
Speaker 1: and widen his track to the outside, which allows better
Speaker 1: pursuit angles from the second level defenders. Well, Steeler's not
Speaker 1: going to outrun him on a chen, But that's the
Speaker 1: entire purpose of team football. If you do your job,
Speaker 1: and if I do my job, we can make a play.
Speaker 1: But if one guy doesn't do the job, then my
Speaker 1: effort doing my job doesn't get noticed because the play
Speaker 1: is not there to be made. And Quentin Bell forced
Speaker 1: a steep edge that got him caught on a block,
Speaker 1: but it freed up Zach Stealer to win the race
Speaker 1: to the perimeter for the stop. I just think that
Speaker 1: Zach looks like he's in mid season in form. He
Speaker 1: looks fantastic. Speaking of Quentin Bell, I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot to add, but he's just been fantastic all camp.
Speaker 1: And that includes is a unsung guy that I think
Speaker 1: we need to really start paying attention to collectively, because
Speaker 1: these are the stories that I love. I remember like
Speaker 1: Julius Warmsley back in twenty sixteen was a guy that
Speaker 1: just kept on getting better and better at camp and
Speaker 1: in the preseason, and he made the opening day roster.
Speaker 1: That's why I think could happen here for Quinton Bell.
Speaker 1: And he's a guy that you're not familiar with going
Speaker 1: into camp, they flashing camp. Then if it becomes consistent
Speaker 1: into the games, that's when you can start talking about
Speaker 1: being a fifty three man roster player. Deshaun Hand made
Speaker 1: some plays. He's also had a nice start to camp,
Speaker 1: and man, those guys eating blocks, and then the work
Speaker 1: that comes off the back of that, Like look at
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle numbers across the National Football League, right
Speaker 1: though usually thirty or forty tackles per season for a
Speaker 1: good year, right, it's thankless in terms of national exposure
Speaker 1: and stat compilation, But you need guys to make plays
Speaker 1: off of that, right And we've seen fits and fills
Speaker 1: to me at a very very very high level, whether
Speaker 1: that's Jordan Brooks or Anthony Walker or it's dB coming
Speaker 1: off of a blitz, they just seem to really be
Speaker 1: tethered so far. And I think that's off to a
Speaker 1: better start than it was last year.
Speaker 2: For instance.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and do some audio on all of this,
Speaker 1: first with David Long on why he thinks they can
Speaker 1: get off to a faster start this year because of
Speaker 1: better camaraderie, because of the chemistry.
Speaker 4: I would say, you know, it's easier to learn when
Speaker 4: you can Gail together, you know, and also as far
Speaker 4: as you know, hanging out, hanging outside of the facility
Speaker 4: was a bigger emphasis this offseason. So we did that,
Speaker 4: you know, whether it was Mick me and Nick Needom
Speaker 4: and Tannan just having a young guys around. Uh that
Speaker 4: that that that plays a part, you know, just the
Speaker 4: little stuff just going to get something to eat or whatever.
Speaker 3: That may be.
Speaker 4: Uh, it's easy to come out here and you know,
Speaker 4: hold each other accountable because you know it's not coming
Speaker 4: from a bad place.
Speaker 1: And then to continue this theme, we've talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of guys about the principles and focal points of
Speaker 1: this defense and it's kind of coming together now right
Speaker 1: full picture. But how challenging is the ability to get
Speaker 1: to these different games and blitz is from the same look,
Speaker 1: but with different guys playing different roles that you know,
Speaker 1: I can have Kalays Campbell's my nose tackle once and
Speaker 1: AAP and the next nap he can be the five
Speaker 1: technique and run that you know those tracks as well.
Speaker 1: Here's Durham smile on how that challenges your offense.
Speaker 3: It does, It keeps everyone on their toes and it's
Speaker 3: just it's it's different looks. I think it really expands
Speaker 3: the offense too, when you have different things that you
Speaker 3: don't see on a regular basis really from every position,
Speaker 3: and then the other offense expands, and then players roles expand.
Speaker 2: All right, So we talked to d Long there and
Speaker 2: Durham Smith.
Speaker 1: I want to finish up this segment with the off
Speaker 1: ball linebackers because that might be the one of the
Speaker 1: most impressive groups so far of camp. You know, I
Speaker 1: saw Jordan Brooks lay the wood multiple times today as
Speaker 1: the pads came on. I see him scrape in tight
Speaker 1: to his key and get himself in position at the
Speaker 1: right moment. Far more often than not. He's having perhaps
Speaker 1: the best camp of anyone.
Speaker 2: For my money.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to David Long now to
Speaker 1: talk about Jordan Brooks because he had some very nice
Speaker 1: things to say about his new teammates.
Speaker 4: He's like a quiet assassin, That's what I'd be calling him.
Speaker 4: Don't really say much, man, but you know, you know
Speaker 4: some ball. He's physical. You know, he fits right in,
Speaker 4: you know, with the play style we want to play.
Speaker 1: And that brings me to our next unsung zeke Vandenberg,
Speaker 1: who if I'm being honest, I was a little bit
Speaker 1: foggy coming in, but going back now in hindsight and
Speaker 1: thinking about it, he was making plays last camp too,
Speaker 1: And I remember him being a great interview when we
Speaker 1: had him, and then he got hurt and you never
Speaker 1: hear from him again because you can't interview injured players,
Speaker 1: so it's like he kind of gets forgotten about. But
Speaker 1: my goodness, you know, if Brooks has been the best linebacker,
Speaker 1: Vandenburg is right there making a case to push for
Speaker 1: that honor. And we are just loaded right now with
Speaker 1: stack linebackers. That's what Zeke's been playing so far as
Speaker 1: stack backer. He made some big plays in the fit.
Speaker 1: He got his hands on that one pass that got
Speaker 1: picked off. He's rushing, doing everything, and like I said,
Speaker 1: has earned the respect of David Long.
Speaker 4: Just making plays. Man. You know, he's not like he's
Speaker 4: just like Jorin he has to come in. You know,
Speaker 4: he's not a talker, thrill. You know, he chops with
Speaker 4: and then you know, I was no seeing Zeke through
Speaker 4: it off season. You know he hurt, he got hurt
Speaker 4: last year. But you know, even like you could ask
Speaker 4: Hibody camp last year, you know he's making plays. You know,
Speaker 4: it's unfortunately he got hurt. I'm just happy to see
Speaker 4: him back in action, man, because I know what I
Speaker 4: how I feel when I'm not playing ball, So you know,
Speaker 4: just to see him out there having another chance to
Speaker 4: get after it's cool.
Speaker 1: Duke's made some plays as well. We talked about Anthony Walker,
Speaker 1: you know, d Long getting back in there. So I
Speaker 1: had to ask, like, what's the secret sauce from Joe
Speaker 1: Berry because quite frankly, I haven't seen linebackers play this
Speaker 1: in Miami since Zach Thomas was here.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I can't say enough good things about Joe Man. You know,
Speaker 4: he makes the environment fun. But it's also we learned.
Speaker 4: We learned so much, and it's it's great to have
Speaker 4: a coach like him because I mean I've had like
Speaker 4: I've had five I've been in the year, like six
Speaker 4: league six years. I had like five six linebacker coaches,
Speaker 4: So you know, I've been learning different styles, you know,
Speaker 4: as my years went. You know, Joe, It's just so
Speaker 4: it just showed a little different you know, a little
Speaker 4: style and what I'm used to in a good way,
Speaker 4: you know. But he fits right in as well with
Speaker 4: the coach, and you know what We're trying to you know,
Speaker 4: establish here, and we.
Speaker 1: Had to finish right here real quick because these are
Speaker 1: kind of the observations I want to always be on
Speaker 1: after coaches kind words. The other day, David Long was
Speaker 1: on the end line taking mental reps off of the
Speaker 1: field in his first practice back on Sunday, So I
Speaker 1: asked him about that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just eager. I was eager to get
Speaker 4: that got there. I did like three plays yesterday, so
Speaker 4: I was really kind of pissed, and I was just
Speaker 4: like trying to get any type of work I could,
Speaker 4: you know, but just watching Anthony and then Zeke. Zeke's
Speaker 4: having the hell of a camp, you know, just watching
Speaker 4: those guys work, you know, just finding ways to still learn,
Speaker 4: you know, while I'm not there, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I want to go in depth off the edge
Speaker 1: and the defensive backfield. Will do that next with a
Speaker 1: couple more unsungs and extra points and the Orange Jersey
Speaker 1: prediction and get out of here. All of that coming
Speaker 1: up Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 1: you by Autoation. You know who I thought really got
Speaker 1: after it on Monday, Well, Halloed Kamara and the speed
Speaker 1: and the ankle flection to really bend that arc is
Speaker 1: all awesome, right, Well, today I saw him do that,
Speaker 1: but also bluff a rush upfield and then cross face
Speaker 1: of the tackle and go speed to power on a guard.
Speaker 2: And just mow as big old butt over dude.
Speaker 1: Impressive, impressive rep and day from the rookie. And you
Speaker 1: pair that next to Chop Robinson and the urgency that
Speaker 1: he creates with his get off. He is consistently using
Speaker 1: that get off to cause issues all training camp long.
Speaker 1: That's why I keep looking at this defense as more
Speaker 1: of a sum of the parts type of approach and
Speaker 1: the traits that fit what we're learning about these core
Speaker 1: philosophies and core you know principles, quickness and tone setters
Speaker 1: inside size that can expand outside. You heard Durham talk
Speaker 1: about how it makes the offense expand, right like you
Speaker 1: really see that Baltimore blueprint here, which has become the
Speaker 1: new Shanahan try for defenses. Seattle got you know, Mike McDonald,
Speaker 1: the Ravens promoted Zachary or we got Weaver, and the
Speaker 1: Titans got Denard Wilson from that Ravens staff last year.
Speaker 1: And on top of those fronts and the traits we
Speaker 1: mentioned there, what do they have? They had ro Quand
Speaker 1: Smith inside and Patrick Queen, who are both tough mffors,
Speaker 1: and I see us putting a huge emphasis on that
Speaker 1: and getting a guy that has the ro Quand Smith
Speaker 1: mentality in Jordan Brooks and then versule defensive backs which
Speaker 1: who has more than we do with Ramsey and Fuller
Speaker 1: and Holland, and I'll put Jordan Poyer in there as well.
Speaker 1: So just the process and the execution so far has
Speaker 1: me very excited. And you know, Grayson Murphy was in
Speaker 1: the unsung category again, another productive day from him with
Speaker 1: a couple of pressures in a sack. I mentioned Quentin
Speaker 1: Bell earlier. He continues to get after it. And Emmanuel Ogba
Speaker 1: was also very good. He's had a great camp so far.
Speaker 1: And let's go ahead and move back to the secondary
Speaker 1: because I'm watching this defensive backfield move around and blitz
Speaker 1: and caused, you know, confusion, and it reminds me of
Speaker 1: what like Kyle Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey and Gino Stone
Speaker 1: and Brandon Stevens and Arthur Molett and all these and
Speaker 1: Marcus Williams and all these studs the Ravens had I
Speaker 1: talked to Nick Needham about this today after a practice.
Speaker 1: Who got himself down in the mud from that new
Speaker 1: safety position, and by that, I mean just coming up
Speaker 1: and filling gaps in the running game. Here's Nick Needham
Speaker 1: on how he's enjoying the physicality of his new position.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Like I said, I ain't really got to hit that
Speaker 6: many people last year with the limited reps in the
Speaker 6: game coming back halfway through the season, so I'm trying
Speaker 6: to just fill it out and I love contact. So
Speaker 6: today was fun and I hope we have passed tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And then just to put a bow on the Ravens influence,
Speaker 1: I asked him about this defense and empowering defensive backs
Speaker 1: to be versatile and flexible, and have you guys gone
Speaker 1: back to that Ravens tape to do that?
Speaker 2: Here is Nick Needam.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've is always pulling up key plays from their defense,
Speaker 6: like in critical situations and just showing us how the
Speaker 6: safeties are moving on the string and playing off each other.
Speaker 6: So he kind of allows Jordan and javaon with the
Speaker 6: ones obviously, and Elijah as well, just play off each
Speaker 6: other so different disguise and they're all really learned how
Speaker 6: each other plays and they can create more opportunities.
Speaker 4: For each other.
Speaker 1: And to go off of that point, we saw Ethan
Speaker 1: Bonner have an impact rush where he flags down Devon
Speaker 1: a chan to the other side of the field. We've
Speaker 1: seen Ramsey and Fuller have impact rushes. Saw Elijah Campbell
Speaker 1: get in there today, another unsung guy who has really
Speaker 1: made his mark this camp You heard Nick mention him
Speaker 1: alongside Poe and Holland like, that's a job that Elijah
Speaker 1: Campbell is in the running for. He's playing well, he's
Speaker 1: earning it all rightlet's go ahead and do the rest
Speaker 1: of this in extra points. I thought Marcus May looked
Speaker 1: fast and smooth today as he continues to ramp up.
Speaker 1: I thought or not thought, but storm Duck did make
Speaker 1: a couple of plays, particularly with the big hits. He
Speaker 1: put a big hit on Jalen right that I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you don't do that, But he came up and made
Speaker 1: employees against the run. Patrick McMorris had a nice play
Speaker 1: on a deep shot to Tanner' connor. Jeff Wilson had
Speaker 1: some more good runs today and a really nice catching
Speaker 1: traffic that caught my eye, but it too Jones had
Speaker 1: some some stops and stacked up the running game. Just
Speaker 1: so many contributors on the defensive line there, and I
Speaker 1: guess that we were pretty thorough. So a shorter extra
Speaker 1: points today. My Orange Jersey prediction, oh for four today,
Speaker 1: just killing it. I'm gonna go zeke Vandenberg. He was
Speaker 1: all over the field again. Nouvelle Gallimore is my second prediction,
Speaker 1: and Julian Hill going way off the beaten path for
Speaker 1: those predictions. All right, one more tomorrow, off day Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and then back at it Thursday through Saturday before a
Speaker 1: Sunday off day. We're gonna have you here on all
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