1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's not Giants, dont get out on the 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Giants bubbling give me some job. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Part of the Giants podcast Network. 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: Let's roll. 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 7 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 8 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Joining me in the Hack and Sack Marine Health Podcast 9 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: that You'll keep getting better is a man that just 10 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: retired from the National Football League as a member of 11 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: the Giants. Justin you, how are you? Man? 12 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, when they give you the Legends Community, let's 13 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: get our let's get our mic situation figured it out. 14 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: He's it pro. 15 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: When they give you the Legends Community polo, you know 16 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: it's time to go. That's when you know it's time 17 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: to go. Have you signed it? And they're like, all right, 18 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: here's your polo? Today was my day. 19 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm not surprised by this because you 20 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: were kind of a shrunken version of Justin Peugh when 21 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: you showed up here for your last year with the Giants. 22 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: But you kind of took the same path as most 23 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman where you retire and then like eighty pounds 24 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: just melts off of you. 25 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it kind of was progressing towards the 26 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: end of my career. Even when I was in Arizona, 27 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: we were running an uptempo style offense, so I didn't 28 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: need to be three hundred and fifteen pounds. But it 29 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: is the one position in all all of professional sports 30 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: where you actually have to be like big and almost 31 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: out of shape to be good at your job. There's 32 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: no three hundred and fifty. Rarely do you see three 33 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: hundred fifteen jack guys. Even the guys you think are 34 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: in amazing shape and are some of the best left tackles, 35 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 2: they still could probably benefit from losing a. 36 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Couple paus maybe, like Tyrone Smith is the one example. Yeah, 37 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: yes they had no body fat, but everyone else yes, yes, yeah, 38 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: and he's built in a lab. And even you know, 39 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: I think of your best left tackle, he probably could. 40 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: We either get really really. 41 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Big, is what I should say, or we get really 42 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: really small. I don't want to pick on left tackles, 43 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: all right. 44 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: So you said today during your retirement, Prescommens, I want 45 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: to go here first, that you didn't pick offensive line. 46 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Offensive line kind of picked you. Yeah, it just turned 47 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: out to be the position that was right for you. 48 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: You start at as a defensive lineman. You did to 49 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: make it a switch. Just talk about that and why 50 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: you think in the end that was the right position 51 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: for you. 52 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I don't think any kid really is 53 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: like wants to be an offensive lineman. Right. It's one 54 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: of those positions where it's like I didn't grow up, 55 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: you know, mimicking past setting Aaron Donald to try to 56 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: win a game, and that was never something you always 57 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: get only on your own on TV when you have 58 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: a holding penalty, and so all for all those reasons. 59 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: You've had that big William Rofe poster on your wall. 60 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, no I did not. But what I did 61 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: find out was like, no one has a room like 62 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: the offensive line room. And that's something the community and 63 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: bringing the guys together. It's something that I always cherished 64 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: and it's something that I try to bring rack and 65 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: is still on this team. When I came back two 66 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: years ago, it was like a mandatory offensive line dinners. 67 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: They're still doing them, which is great, right, And those 68 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: are the types of things that I think build culture. 69 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: They build the room, and the best teams I've been 70 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: on the offensive line has been a very big part 71 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: of that. 72 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Is this impossible to build that if you're just doing 73 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: what's required and what's frankly allowed in the facility, right. 74 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean I think when you look at 75 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: OTA's now and they're a little bit different, guys are 76 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: scattered in the off seasons, Like I lived here when 77 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 2: I was playing for the Giants, and I really was 78 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: in the community, I was around. I would challenge more 79 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: guys to continue to train together, be around another, bring 80 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: their families together, get dinners together. Like I always said, 81 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: if you can't tell me like the names of the 82 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: kids you play with, or like they're the school they 83 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: went to, like high school, like where they're from, Like 84 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: how are you going to do a douce block with them? 85 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: How are you going to pass protect with them? Like 86 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: how are you going to communicate when you guys aren't 87 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: even speaking the same language from the jump? 88 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I want to get to some football in a little bit. 89 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: But looking back at your career at the Giants, is 90 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: there a game or moment, a play, anything that that 91 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: really kind of sticks out in your head is something 92 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: that you'll never forget. 93 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think my first ever game Dallas Cowboys Stadium. 94 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: Now we lost the game, but it was I'm out 95 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: there against at right tackle and DeMarcus Ware lines up 96 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: against me for my first snap in the NFL, and 97 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, we're here, We're here. And then 98 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: obviously the playoff game when we go to Green Bay, 99 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: we you know, didn't come out of victorious, but going 100 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: to the playoffs, getting experienced that for the first time 101 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and then again later in my career, well, it was 102 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: another major one. I would say, probably one of the 103 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: ones that I hang my hat on. It kind of 104 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: defines me as a player. Is my last game of 105 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 2: the New York Giants Stint one. We go to play 106 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. I was playing left guard that whole season, 107 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: getting ready to get a contract extension. Me and Jerry 108 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: Reese are deep in talks to get this contact contact 109 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: contract done. And we go in a Sunday night football 110 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: and we're going against Von Miller, who plays over the 111 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: right tackle. We had some interest at the right tackle spot. 112 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: They said, hey, Justin, we need you to play right 113 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: tackle this week. And I'm like, guys, like, I'm a 114 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: left guard, Like that's where anyone's gonna pay me going 115 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: for it. I'm not a right tackle and we're at 116 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: this point. I think we're only like we have no 117 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: wins at this point, or maybe one win. It's very few. 118 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: And I go out there and play right tackle and 119 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: have a great game against von Miller. They give me 120 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: the game ball. When's the last time you saw an 121 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: offensive line get the game ball on Sunday Night football. 122 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: I's awesome. 123 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm walking off the field. I kind of had the 124 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: ball in the air and my wife got it painted 125 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: and I have it in our room. But I always 126 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: look back to that, not of like I had a 127 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 2: great game. It was like the feeling I felt going 128 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: into the locker room after it was just a one win. 129 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: It was one win the season that was dismal. They 130 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: end up drafting Teguon Barkley the next year to show 131 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: you how bad the year was. But like every guy 132 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: came up and hugged me from the defense to the 133 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, like, hey, you took one 134 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: for the team, and you like you you put the 135 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: team first, and that's something that I'll always take that 136 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: mentality and that kind of resonated with me that like, hey, 137 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: you do right by the team, good things will happen 138 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: in the long run. 139 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up a part of this 140 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: is a bad memory. Does that twenty sixteen playoff game 141 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: still stick in your crawl a little bit? 142 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean you go into a game like that, 143 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: there was a Hail Mary right before halftime. I felt 144 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: like there was a lot of things that were going 145 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: in our favor. Obviously a lot more outside of a 146 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: lot of outside noise during that game, but going against 147 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in lambeau Field, like, that's what you draw 148 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: up when you're like, you're in lambeau to win a 149 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: playoff game, and I thought there was no doubt we 150 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: were winning the Super Bowl. I was just like, if 151 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: you get Eli Manning into the playoffs, you win super Bowls. 152 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: And let me tell you he was dealing that thy No, 153 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: that was not Eli's fault. He played a hell of 154 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: a game. 155 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's playoff football. Aaron Rodgers is 156 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: one of the best ever played this game as well, so. 157 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: And losing Dominque Rodgers Camarti on defense, Yes, it was 158 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: just rough that yep, yep, yeah, I know. And then 159 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: you know the first few years in the Giants that 160 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: you mentioned in your pres comments some rough years. Yeah, 161 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: what was that like for you as a player, how 162 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: much did you deal with losing growing up, coming through 163 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: high school and college and was that like a system 164 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: shocked for you trying to kind of figure out how 165 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: to do that while not having team success on this. 166 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: I had always been part of rebuilds. Right in my 167 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: high school, we weren't very good. Like the last year 168 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: we end like we actually never made the playoffs in 169 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: high school. But like towards towards the end of my 170 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: career or in high school, we're like right on the 171 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: costs and they go to the state championship right their 172 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: following we set the foundation. Syracuse was the worst team 173 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: in college football when I got there. We were Big 174 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: East champs when I left, and I brought that same mentality. 175 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: I fully was committed to doing whatever it took to 176 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: see the Giants all the way through from you know 177 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: us starting out they were they were Super Bowl champions, 178 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: but we had fallen we had fallen off, and we 179 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: were owing six. And I remember justin tucking in front 180 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: of the team and just talking about still doing the 181 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: little things right, still being consistent. And I've put that 182 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: tool into my toolbox for my whole career. I'm gonna 183 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: be that guy you can depend on whether we're owing 184 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: six or we're six and oh. And I've been on 185 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: O sixteens, and I've been on six and oh teams, 186 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: and I've been the same guy no matter what. You 187 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: find out the character of the men in the room 188 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: when things aren't going the right way, and I always 189 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: prided myself we're owing six, you come in. I'm still 190 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: doing the same work on Tuesday. On the off days, 191 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm still doing the offensive line dinner. It's not like 192 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: things just become less important because you're not winning, and 193 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: that's what gets you through. Unfortunately, in this business you 194 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: don't always have the opportunity to see it through. But 195 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: it's part of the reason why I came back to 196 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: help continually set that foundation. I was talking to Richie 197 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: Seibert today, super Bowl winning offensive lineman for the Giants, 198 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: and I'm still carrying the traditions that I learned from 199 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: those guys from the Christnee of you gotta love the 200 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: guy you play next to. You got to have that 201 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: connectivity all year long, and that's what builds great teams. 202 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: And I'll always battle for that for the Giants and 203 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: for any team. Huddle up get in here. If you're 204 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: lined up here, you gotta go over the middle with 205 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: at the score right. 206 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? I don't know, but 207 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: Citizens does makes sense of your money with Citizens Official 208 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Bank of Eli Manning. You mentioned this as a business. 209 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: I know you really enjoyed your time in Arizona, but 210 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: do you look back and say, I wish we could 211 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: have figured out a way to stay here and be 212 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: a giant your whole career. 213 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the goal. I never wanted to leave. 214 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: I saw David Dial do it, I saw Chrisney do it, 215 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: and I wanted to be mentioned with those guys playing 216 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: for eleven years with the same organization. The business comes 217 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: into it was a great thing I needed. That I 218 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: needed to go to Arizona was me and my wife. 219 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: I said it in my conference today. We left his kids. 220 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: We came back as parents, we came back as adults. 221 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: We had to do with things that we're flying the coop. 222 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: I've never lived outside of the Northeast of my entire life. 223 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: It was sad at first. I had resentment towards the 224 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: Giants at the time and the GM at the time, 225 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: but I realized he had a job to do. He 226 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: had a family to take care of and I now 227 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: love it. And Joe Shane we we had to negotiat 228 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: I remember him saying a little joke about, like, this 229 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: is the most negotiating I've had to do with a 230 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: practice squad offensive line because I was practice squad when 231 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: I came back to kind of like prove my worth. 232 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: And I was like, that's because I'm not a practice 233 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: squad olignement. Joe, like, I've been through this before. I 234 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: know the business, Like I get where we're going, and 235 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: it's something that I enjoyed. I think they're like, man, 236 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: you're sick and twisted that you have enjoyed and negotiating 237 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: a practice squad deal, But it's the truth. I really did. 238 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: So how much did that experience leaving the Giants going 239 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: in Arizona? You mentioned the end of the year you 240 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: were negotiating before the season was season over motivated you 241 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: to get into kind of what you're doing now talking 242 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: about the business of sports advising players. You do a 243 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: lot of contract evaluations on your Twitter feed stuff like that. 244 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: How did those do things kind of you know, one 245 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: lead to the other. 246 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: I was a finance major in school and I told 247 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: you we were the worst recruiting class that Syracuse when 248 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: I got there. So I didn't think the NFL was 249 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: ever in the cards, right. It was always finance and 250 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: I was always going to go work for my uncle 251 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 2: who's in the wealth management space, and through my time playing, 252 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: I would just I was. I didn't realize I was 253 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: the guinea pig to the solution of a problem I 254 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: knew existed and didn't know how to solve. Now there's 255 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: these crazy stats flying out there of NFL players having 256 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: financial stress. I don't know what's true what's not, So 257 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention numbers. I just no guys 258 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: struggle post career. And it's not just from cash flow 259 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 2: and not having the money to pay their bills. It's 260 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: the purpose of like what do I wake up at 261 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: thirty five excited to do every day? We don't have 262 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: I put this in quotes, We don't think we have 263 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: if this skill set, the transit's in a business, and 264 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: I want to show guys that we have everything. You 265 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 2: have all the tools in your toolbox, are ready to 266 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: be successful. And there are some tweaks and there's some 267 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: things I pulled from guys like Tuck from Eli from 268 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: zach Thiassi, who is one of my biggest role models 269 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: when I was on this team. From Larry Fitzgerald from 270 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: Kelvin Beach. I'm like guys that I played with in 271 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Arizona that showed me how to work off the field. 272 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: And that was part of the reason I came back, 273 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: because being a New York Giant gives you social equity 274 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: that isn't putting into put in a contract. It's put 275 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: when you walk into a room and you shake someone's hand, 276 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: they tell you that they're the CEO of a company 277 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: and they're a New York Giants fan. I remember when 278 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: you got drafted, and that's something that I wish I 279 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: could tell younger players now, is like, you don't realize 280 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: the benefit you have of being in the greatest city 281 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: in the world, playing for the greatest franchise in that city. 282 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: And it's the reason why I came back. It's the 283 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 2: reason I'm going to be around. But it's it's something 284 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: that's near and dear to my heart. So yeah, we 285 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: started working with more athletes to try to work through that. 286 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm partnering up with the NFL to do programs to 287 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: do just that and It's something I'll always do. My 288 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: mom was a school teacher, my uncle was in finance, 289 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: so maybe both of those folks rubbed off on me. 290 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: And then the content part of your post career. You 291 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: did some serious last year. You have your own YouTube channel, 292 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: the do some stuff for the Giants or she could 293 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: tease that if you want as well, just how did 294 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: you kind of get into that? Yeah? 295 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: So I'll be working with the Giants this year doing 296 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: some lifestyle content. So I'm super excited about that, building 297 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: off of what I did last year with my Thursday 298 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: Night Football series where I went to every game, and 299 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: I realized that if you're not playing, you have to 300 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: still stay relevant somehow. How do you still hang around 301 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 2: the hoop and media is the best way to do that. 302 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know what my niche in this was going 303 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: to be, but I've always loved the fans. I've always 304 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: loved engaging with the fans. What better way to do 305 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: that than to go sit in the stands of them. 306 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: So I was a professional football player for eleven years 307 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: and then I was a professional fan. Last year I 308 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: went and cheered on the home team. So don't get 309 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: mad at me, Giants fans I wanted to see what 310 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: it was like to be a you know, San Francisco 311 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers fan for the day, and it was 312 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: we have some amazing fans. We have some amazing people 313 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: that support these organizations, and that's really the life. Bless 314 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: why we're all here. If there weren't fans, there wouldn't 315 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: be anything to cheer on. There'd be no reason for 316 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: me to have a contract dispute because no one will 317 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: be paying the bills to begin with. So I really 318 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: do appreciate the fan. I'm excited to go shine a 319 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: light on all the great New York Giants fans out there, 320 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that one. It is coming soon. 321 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: What did you think? What have you learned about football 322 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't know while you were playing then 323 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: now that you have more of a twenty to thirty 324 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: thousand foot view, even seeing the business side from a 325 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: less biased perspective, is you're not the one in it 326 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: right and see it from a fan perspective? What have 327 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: you learned about the game that maybe didn't quite click 328 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: for you when you were player. 329 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 2: That people love to put everything aside and go support 330 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: their team for those four hours. I don't care what 331 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: drama's going on, I don't care. Like, and you walk 332 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: into a stadium, you have everyone from every walk of life. 333 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: If we want to solve world issues, just have them 334 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: all become the fans of the same team, right, have 335 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: them all become a New York at least, Like if 336 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: we're angry, we're angry about like one common thing. And 337 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: that's something that I really learned to cherish to kind 338 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: of embody putting myself in those shoes, like, hey guys, 339 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to like escape for these four hours. I 340 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: have something going on at home. I don't want to worry. 341 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm dealing with drama at work or whatever the case 342 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 2: may be. But when I come here, I'm cheering on 343 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: the New York Giants and everything goes by the wayside. 344 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: And that was something like the Cleveland Brown's probably were 345 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: my biggest shining example of this. I went to the 346 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: Browns Steelers Thursday night game, snow game. Jamis Winston was 347 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: the quarterback for that game, he remember, and the fans 348 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: were like they didn't care. The Browns tod two or 349 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: three wins and the season was a disaster. Like they 350 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: came together, they were hugging each other in the snow. 351 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: And if that isn't a shining example how great this 352 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: game is, I don't know what it is. 353 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: So I feel like, given the questions you got when 354 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: you were here, I need to ask this to you 355 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: one more time since we're in the building. Do you 356 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: think your thirty three and troms might have a negative 357 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: impact on your post playing career. 358 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: I think it's even well if you're gonna do selfie. 359 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 2: If you're doing selfie, but it may impact being able 360 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: to put your arms around everybody and bring them in 361 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: and bring them in for But I think this is 362 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: the one profession where I'm going to be all right 363 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: on that. And I always joke with my wife when 364 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: I first met her, I said, how long are your arms? 365 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: I need to know how long your arms are, so 366 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: we'll say my daughter. My daughter's got a good reach 367 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: right now? 368 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: In all serious is do you think eventually you kind 369 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: of selled it to guard? Do you think that anything 370 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: to do with arm length or not? 371 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: No, because I went out and tackle. It's really more 372 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 2: of like the mental ability to figure out how to 373 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: play those different positions. I mean, I know guys that 374 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: have super long arms that have gone in the guard 375 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: and have success. And I know guys with short arms 376 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: that are some of the best. Who's the best left 377 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: tackle in football right now? 378 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Right? 379 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: I think, like, I don't know what are there's some 380 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: guys that have shorter arm. I Shaan Slater out. 381 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: In me that Tim just got paid. He doesn't have 382 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: long arms. He's been starting. 383 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: So I think right now, it's at the offense. You're in, 384 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: the scheme you're in. If you can build a guy 385 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: in a labby of course you're going to have him 386 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: have some longer arm. But this game we know is 387 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: not built by players in labs. Just Tyron Smith. As 388 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier, If you want to know how to 389 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: manage two minutes of crunch time football, I'm your man. 390 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 391 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: you should talk to citizens. 392 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to 393 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: learn about a Mollia routine. Yes, I knew I could 394 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: help make sense of your money with citizens. So Lily, 395 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk to the football here justin before 396 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: we say goodbye. I know your family's waiting for you. 397 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: How do you think? 398 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: What do you think of the giants and the in 399 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: the off season, bringing in the veteran quarterback Russell Wilson. 400 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: Give me your thoughts. 401 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: I think this was an a plus offseason. I really do, 402 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: and I would be skeptical. I've said things publicly before. 403 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: I think it was an a plus offseason. I didn't 404 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: want us to reach at three and try to do 405 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: something that was mortgaging the future. 406 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: And you go off your board for it, right, Yeah. 407 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: Abdul Carter could have gone two, could have gone one 408 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: if someone had a quarterback, right, I think you get 409 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: the best player in the draft. The defensive line has 410 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: always been the scariest part about playing The New York Giants, 411 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles copy that playbook, the Dallas Cowboys. They all 412 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: went out and tried to build off of like the 413 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: seven and eleven Giants teams that had that NASCAR package. 414 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: Put all those guys in the field. Giants are getting 415 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: back to the Giants football, and I think the depth 416 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: on the offensive line is the best that it's been 417 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: in years. And I feel very confident now we have 418 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls that have been very successful. 419 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: The number one overall pick we had Jackson Dart, a 420 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: young player. They don't have to force into any situation. 421 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: Everywhere I look on this team, I'm confident that if 422 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: we go out there and fight, we are in every 423 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: single game, and with a defensive line like ours, I'm 424 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: gonna make this call right now, Dexter Lawrence will be 425 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year this year. Now, don't tell 426 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: him I said this in America. I don't want the 427 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: defensive line getting their heads too big right now. Actually, 428 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: maybe I want to give some bolletin board material, like 429 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: I'll start throwing jabs at them because they need to 430 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: have a little fire. You gotta bring it week in 431 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: and week out. But I've gone against Dexter when he 432 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: was a rookie to where he's at now, and he's 433 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: made leaps and bounds. Last year, I think he could 434 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: have been Defensive Player of the Year. I think he 435 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: gets over the hump and wins and it's a freaking 436 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: nose guard This year, the Giants are gonna set that tone. 437 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: They're gonna build off of it, and it's it's I 438 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: don't want to say, hey, it's bright and sunny days. 439 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: There's gonna be adversity. Things are gonna hit. But I 440 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: am so optimistic about this team. 441 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: What does having a veteran quarterback like a Russell Wilson 442 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: do for a team. You're here when you showed up, 443 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Eli was here, same deal with Probably they're probably almost 444 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: throughout the same age. I'm totally honest with you. So 445 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: what is having a guy like Russ that that's been 446 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: through it all due for an offense? I had an 447 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: offensive line group for that. 448 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: Match, colms the group. I've been here before. I've been 449 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: through the ups and downs. I mean, and look at 450 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: his career as of late. People aren't just throwing like 451 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: rainbows and butterflies his way. He's going through. He's in 452 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: the trenches right now, and if there's something that is 453 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: to be said, if he keeps showing back up to work. 454 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: My brother and my nephews are just outside. He came 455 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: up and met him, and my brother was like, he 456 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: was more excited to meet them, I think, and then 457 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: they were to meet him and they were They were 458 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: as happy as they could be. To who he has 459 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: as a person, how he carries himself, how he handles 460 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: that huddle running down the field from elite neighbors, big 461 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: big grab today, which is good. To'll be able to 462 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: talk about that later. 463 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: We will. 464 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: That is everything. You lead by example, and he's always 465 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: done that throughout his career. 466 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fantastic. I know he has an offensive lineman. 467 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: You're still scouting pass rushers. What do you think about 468 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: dull quarter seim in person out there on the field today. 469 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he just he's bigger than I think I 470 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: remember him being at Penn stated. I thought he he 471 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: might struggle against the run at times, but he looked 472 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: like he can be multiple. He can he can being 473 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: off the ball linebacker and then how much better that's 474 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: going to make? Cave On Thibodeau, Brian Burns. Everyone doesn't 475 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: have to put all the pressure on themselves, Dexter, Lawrence 476 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: Nacho on the inside, Like we got some guys now, 477 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: we just keep rotating, and that's what it's always been. 478 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: If you have eight defensive linemen, that's what. If you 479 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: have eight starting defensive lineman, that's enough. If you only 480 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: have four, you don't have enough. And that's where I 481 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: think now we have the depth there and on the 482 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 2: offensive lineman, I think we're eight deep as well. We 483 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: have eight guys that could be a starter on your team, 484 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: and that's a good place to be. 485 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: What is Evan Neil going through right now, moving from 486 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: tackle to guard. 487 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: Your ego takes a little bit of a hit. Like 488 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: I've been there before, I've been the starting right now, 489 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: I've been a first round pick, and your ego takes 490 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 2: a hit, and then you're go, look what guards are 491 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: making right now, Evan, That's all I gotta tell you. 492 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot worse things that could happen in your 493 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: life than to be a guard. The guys closer to 494 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: you can get your hands on, and you get quarterback help. 495 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: It takes pressure off you mentally. You're not out there 496 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: on an island. You're closer to the quarterback. You can 497 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 2: go through all those different things. I think he's gonna 498 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: find success now. Look, we have guys that we paid 499 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: to be starting guards. He'll compete for those spots. If 500 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: he's not the starter day one, it doesn't mean you 501 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: give up on the guy. It means he's probably gonna 502 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: at some point play this year. 503 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm with you. And you mentioned guys with long robes, 504 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: something I do better guard. That would be a perfect example. 505 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: All right, give me a you look at the league 506 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: from a wide ranging perspective, what's a couple of trends 507 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: that you've known the last couple of years that you 508 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: think the league is moving towards that you think people 509 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: can kind of get ahead of and think about a 510 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: little bit as the season starts. 511 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: This year, I'm gonna give kind of one of like 512 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: an outside of football and then inside of Polease. 513 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I love it. 514 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 2: The salary cap manipulation has come into our game. Hello Philadelphia, 515 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: Hello Philadelphia Eagles. But like, how good could go wrong? 516 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Hello Cleveland Browns? Correct right? 517 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: And New Orleans Saints. 518 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: Saints weren't spending as much cash though they just had 519 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 2: so like they just kept pushing buddy, Yeah, exactly, they 520 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,479 Speaker 2: weren't spending as much cash. I mean you look at 521 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: some of how that has gone, like the Philadelphia Eagles, 522 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: because of the way they manulate the salary cap, have 523 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: more talent on the field, more dollars in terms of 524 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: who they put on the field. So I think that 525 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: is going to come into some I don't know if 526 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: that's a CBA and something's gonna happen there because the 527 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: owner is gonna be like we see what they clearly 528 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: know what's going. 529 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: On, Like do you limit void years? Like like like 530 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: what do you do to try to control. 531 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: I think that's something to look at because not everyone 532 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: wants to spend money like that, because this is a 533 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 2: business at the end of the day, and not everyone 534 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: can just push those dollars out. And now look Howie 535 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: Rosemans hit on those players too. But the way that 536 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: teams spent cash is a big theme going into this. 537 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: And then it's like, I think teams are getting bigger, 538 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 2: We're going back to running the ball, We're going back 539 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: to smash mouth gap scheme stuff. Right yeah, I mean, 540 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: look at the Baltimore Ravens, the Philadelphia Eagles, look at 541 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: the hardball out out in San Diego. Right now. Teams 542 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: are getting bigger, teams are getting stronger, and all of 543 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: a sudden, you have a small defensive end or a linebacker, 544 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: it might not play as well. 545 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: All right, finally, give via. I don't think you did 546 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: this with the presser, so I'm look at the camera. 547 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: What's your message for Giant fans as you call quits here? 548 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: Giants fans, I thank you for all the support throughout 549 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: the years. I love you guys. I will see you 550 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 2: guys very soon. I look forward to highlighting the Giants fans. 551 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: How great you guys are I'll see you at MetLife 552 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: during games this season. I'm not going anywhere. I got 553 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: my little my Ledgens community poll on on now, so 554 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: I might just be in a different jersey. So thank 555 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: you again. 556 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Can't wait for working to doing your just always a pleasure. 557 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Giants to the podcast brought you 558 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: by Citizens Special Bank of the Giants, who thank Justin 559 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: Peter for joining us in the Hackensack Britney Hill podcast studio. 560 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: Keep getting better. We'll see you next time.