WEBVTT - Parenting, Pollen, & Prehistoric Comebacks - Lab 092 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:10.000 I'm TT and I'm Zakiyah, and this is Dope Labs. 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.600 Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.639 science with pop culture and a healthy dose of friendship. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:25.079 You know, people are always saying, how do you and 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.080 TT pick what you're gonna talk about on Dope Labs. Yeah, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.720 I'm like, uh, that's not a problem. It is never 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:35.680 a problem for us. Yeah, there's so much to talk about, yeah, 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:38.240 all the time. I mean, as much news as there's 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.280 coming in. We always come with topics, and you guys 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.760 are sending stuff in our dms, in our emails, some 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.680 of y'all are responding to the newsletter. Yes, that's my 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.280 favorite when people respond to the newsletter. Yes, but some 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.920 of the topics are really really good, but we don't 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.600 have time to get to them, or they're not big 0:00:56.720 --> 0:00:59.120 enough to put in a full episode, or we can't 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.680 find a scientist into for like when it's relevant, you know, 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.520 and then to get the episode produced before we're on 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.360 to the next thing. That's straight. That's right, Well, guess what. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.200 Now we're gonna just address everything we've been wanting to 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.880 talk about, even if we want to talk about it 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.679 just a little bit. Yes, a grab bag if you will. 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.000 Uh huh. Let's start with the first thing that we 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.200 got a message about, and that was the filibuster. Oh 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:25.319 my gosh. Okay, So Senator Corey Booker recently made history. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.440 He shattered the record that stood since nineteen fifty seven 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:33.280 by doing a filibuster for twenty five hours straight on 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:38.600 the Senate floor, no breaks, no naps, no bathroom breaks. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:43.200 Isn't that crazy? I'm not that committed. I mean, in 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.680 my spirit, I feel that I committed my spirit. Yes, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.920 when it's time to do it, I don't think I'm 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.720 able to do it before him. The last person to 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.200 have a really long filibuster, So, the last person to 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.320 hold the record was Strom Thurman with twenty four hours 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.400 back in nineteen fifty seven. And he was trying to 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.600 block the Civil Rights Act back in nineteen fifty seven. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.440 For his twenty four hour filibuster. Yeah, so what Senator 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.600 Corey Booker did is historic, and it's historic for I 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.000 think two big reasons. One, he was talking about these 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:18.720 really controversial executive orders that have been coming out rapid fire. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.000 And I think that the other really important thing is 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.640 to dethrone someone like Strom Thurman who was doing a 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:31.079 filibuster to block civil rights and having a black man 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.360 stand up there and do it, it really sends a 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:37.600 message that not only are we fed up with what's 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.080 going on in the government, but we are no longer 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.280 going to allow people who were holding folks back and 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.760 trying to restrict their rights were no longer giving them 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.160 a place to shine. I think the politics are important, 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.120 and I've got some ideas about how we could change 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.160 some of the things we're getting the ways things are 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.280 getting done in politics. I don't think you have to 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:00.760 have to stand up for twenty five hours to make point, right. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:05.440 But when we were first looking at this, I was like, biologically, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.880 what's happening there? Because there are things we have talked 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.800 about in other episodes. I won't get into circadian rhythms 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.359 and what our bodies need and what kind of stress 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.040 we experience when we don't sleep, let alone stand and 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.120 speak coherently. You know, I was thinking, like, how did 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.920 he not pee for that long? It's mind boggling. And 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.680 at the very end of his filibuster he was saying, 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.640 you know, nature is calling, and that would have happened 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.640 twenty five minutes twenty five minutes. I would have been like, 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.160 I need a restroom break, and everyone would have been 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.720 upset with me. Well, you would not have made it 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.040 into the history books now, and that's at your age. 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.880 And Corey Booker is not a spring chicken. I'm not 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.200 saying he's all, but he's just not a young man. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.400 Bladder discipline looks different over time. You know, I'm not 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.400 gonna be we won't get into it, but that's about 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.040 five hundred milliliters all have to be carrying over twenty 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.120 five hours. I don't resist, but I think my body 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:10.440 would be resisting too. Whoa. I mean. I heard that 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.760 some folks that do these really long filibusters that they 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.000 use adult diapers, they dehydrate themselves, like get into a 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.400 steam room to like sweat out all the liquid. I 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:24.280 don't know what Corey Booker did to prepare. He said 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.760 he dehydrated himself, and I don't know what his doctor 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.279 feels about that, but I'm sure he is making a 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.599 doctor's appointment very very soon. We're all proud of you, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:39.520 Corey Booker, so proud, so proud, and of that bladder. Now, 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.200 Corey Booker is a politician making a stand. And now 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.920 we're seeing somebody who's made some political stands, kind of backtracking. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:50.000 Have you seen the latest Chapelone interview? Yes, Chaperone. She's 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:55.080 been doing podcasts and interviews with magazines and she's basically like, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.760 leave me out of it. I'm just a pop star. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.320 But then also we'll turn around and get up on 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.800 a stage to accept an award and say here's my 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.680 political thought. So I'm not really sure how you can 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.560 do both. But she got a lot of backlash from 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.640 a recent interview that she did on Call Her Daddy, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.200 And in that interview, she talked about being a parent, 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.039 and she said, all of my friends who have kids 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 are in hell, and I actually don't know anyone who's 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.280 happy and has children at this age. I've literally not 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.680 met anyone who's happy, anyone who has light in their eyes, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.120 anyone who has slept. And it started this whole big 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.480 thing on the internet because some people were feeling a 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.719 little bit triggered by these statements and really upset about 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.400 what she was saying, like, oh, it's not possible to 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.800 be happy if you have kids. But then on the 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:49.720 flip side, some folks felt like, you know, maybe there's 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.039 a little bit of truth, and she's saying the quiet 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.159 part out loud. Well, I'm not a parent, so I 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:59.920 look to you, neighbor. Did she lie? She did not lie? Okay, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.840 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay. I think two things can 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.159 be true at the same time. You can absolutely love 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:13.280 and adore your kids. You can love being a parent, right, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.720 then you can also be tired as hell, like you 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:22.440 can be just wrecked because of what it takes to 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.640 be a parent. You've seen Tyson in the background of 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:28.680 my videos. That little boy is always on go and 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.400 he does not care if I'm tired. That's right, because 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.640 he's his mama's son. Okay, that's what I know. That's 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.240 what I know. Oh my goodness. But you know what, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.560 this also makes me think of what last year the 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.600 former US Surgeon General, THEVEC Murphy, he came out with 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:52.440 a health advisory about how being a parent can affect 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.600 your mental health. I believe it just being alive can 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.479 affect your mental health, right, taking care of somebody else 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.919 on top, right, because and it wasn't just parents like 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:06.000 you're saying, it's also caregivers. And in this study, it 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.480 highlighted that stress levels for parents were really high compared 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:14.200 to adults who don't have children, So high for parents 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.040 and caregivers compared to adults that don't have children. So 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.800 they said that thirty three percent of parents reported high 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:26.200 stress levels in a month, compared to twenty percent of adults. Additionally, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:31.640 forty eight percent of parents felt overwhelmingly stressed most days 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.960 versus twenty six percent of other adults that don't have kids. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.560 I mean, I just think anybody that's taking care of 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:43.760 themselves and somebody else any kind of responsibility, that is 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.640 a lot to keep up with, because not only are 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:49.080 you looking at what's happening in the world, but what's 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.200 happening with my child or loved one right now? What 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.000 does this mean for their future? Even thinking about the 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:58.840 economy and the financial strength, time constraints, like all of it. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.160 You know, our parents didn't have to worry about all 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.440 this technology, right social media? What are they doing on 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:12.960 the computer? I was playing Maybus Beacon teachers typing. Although 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.920 we were doing a little, I was doing too much 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:20.000 on Black Planet. I I was coding on Black Planet. Honey, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:26.200 HTML was hex cos you didn't tell me you Matrix. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.520 It was so much fun. I was in all these 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.880 Nickelodeon chat rooms talking about rug Rats and stuff like that. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.360 It was fun, and yeah, that was fun. Internet Now 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.240 you got to worry about if somebody's activating your child's 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.640 webcam in their bedrooms or whatever else. And you also 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.520 have to worry just about the peer pressure and the 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:52.320 pressure to keep up with other people who are showing 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.400 only the best parts of themselves. These are things that 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.200 adults fall victim too. But now kids have social media, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.960 they have the ability to be on social media, so 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.520 that's also something you have to think about. And then 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:03.720 on top of all that, you have to be able 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.959 to future cast but then also be present in your child, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.960 like do you know what I mean? Like you have 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:10.400 to be present, but you also have to think of 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.680 the future. And the fact that the former US Surgeon 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.160 General had to put out a health advisory about this 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.679 as a real health concern, let you know that this 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.880 is a real talk. And some of the recommendations that 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.640 he had was that policymakers should be putting things in 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:33.199 place to have family support programs and implement national paid 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.040 family leave and medical leave, and also to have more 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:42.560 community so encouraging parents and caregivers to band together use 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.360 the village mentality to help them with raising their child 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.520 or caring for a loved one and really lean into 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.960 that to help alleviate some of this stress. You know. Basically, 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:58.000 the Surgeon General said, you should let me help you 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:03.440 raise your child, basically. And I think the Surgeon General 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.120 is making some great points, but I do have to say, now, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.240 this doesn't feel like the same Surgeon General growing up, Okay, 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:18.320 because they're talking about village mentality and you know, stress 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.520 and overload. I feel like the Surgeon General's recommendations back 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.360 then were like don't smoke tobacco or cigarettes, and don't drink, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.200 but only don't drink if you're pregnant, right, everybody else 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:31.040 have a drink, Okay, wacky Tobacci. We are old enough 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:36.199 to remember when secondhand smoke became like a thing where 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.720 they were like, oh, you know, secondhand smoke can also 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.760 be a problem. I'm like, this is crazy. Now it's 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:44.719 like mental health and all these things like that, and 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.720 I'm just like, this is so good. I'm so glad 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.520 that these resources are available to fun. Yeah. Yeah, because 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.080 even before I think just two years back, the Surgeon 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:56.200 General was talking about friendship and loneliness, like being able 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.800 to get with men. Yes, yes, and so I mean, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.320 thank you to the Surgeon General. But also I've had enough, 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.680 Like you're putting too much on my plate. You know, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.480 I'm dealing with Okay, So I'm trying to exercise, I'm 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.720 trying to eat right. I'm trying to uh have a 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.680 village mentality because I don't care what anybody says. If 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.720 you're an only child and your parents are still around, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.640 you are a caregiver. And so I'm feeling those same stresses. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.520 It's just like having a toddler. Don't let my parents here. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.920 I do think that, like there's all this stuff going on. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.720 And then also I gotta remember take my Zyrtec every 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:50.480 day because the pollen, the polling, help me, it's every 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.320 con it's too much. I was at Low's the other 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.160 day trying to get the highest parts per million filter 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.360 I could find. I said, make it enough, please? Did 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.839 you find it? It's I bought the best one money 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.880 could buy. Okayerfect, I'm so happy for you, friend. I 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.360 got to remember to change my air filters. I mean, 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.920 it's like you can't escape it. The itchy eyes, the 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.560 running nose. I've been using my inhaler because my asthma 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.680 has been getting tripped up because of all the pollen. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.560 I have my allergy medication on deck. I feel like 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.559 I have to take it every day just to survive. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.120 My combo is a Zertec first thing in the morning, okay, 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.360 because if I press snooze on my alarm, my throat, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:33.559 sorry chip, It's like the pollen is your alarm clock. Yes, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.920 get up and take a peal and then I'm doing 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:39.920 naser cord. Okay, Like those are my things. But I 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.679 know a lot of people are taking allergy medicine right 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.839 now because there's just so much pollen. And I think 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.440 I sent you something about that pollen cloud. Yes, that 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.640 was where people are showing all that pollen everywhere. It's 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:53.040 like a Pallen tornado. It's crazy. But I got some 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.360 bad news, well not bad, but something to just be 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.280 thinking about. Oh no, there were some recent studies that 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.720 looked at whether certain types of allergy medicines, particularly diaphen 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:07.080 hydromenes like benadryl, whether they might be linked to a 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:11.480 higher risk of developing dementia later on. Wow, So they're 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.640 looking at first generation antihistamines and they're saying Okay. The 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.000 reason this might be happening, or the reason we might 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.800 even see this type of effect at all, is because 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:24.760 first generation allergy medicines they block acetylcholine, and that's something 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.760 that's a chemical in the brain that's super important for 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.240 memory and learning. Now, I gotta be careful there, because 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.800 these meds and the use of these well not even 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.280 just these myths. The use of these meds are associated 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.560 with dementia, but that does not mean that they cause it. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.040 And I feel like that's something that we often see 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.600 getting overlooked or misconstrued, and so when people share stories, 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.000 they tend to miss this. I want to make sure 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:49.800 we say very clearly, correlation does not equal causation. So 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.200 when we say there's a correlation, and you know that 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.360 means two things are happening together more often than we 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.079 expect by chance, there's a strong correlation between eatn ice 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:02.520 cream and getting unburnt, Okay, that doesn't mean ice cream 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.200 causes sun burned, right, That's we don't have the causation there. 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.559 Like the real factor there is the summertime baby, Okay. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.280 And so I think they're still trying to figure out 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.079 what the allergy is and dementia correlation. They're trying to 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.000 figure out, you know, what's what's tying that the good news? 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:21.280 Though you're giving me good news, there's there are plenty 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.240 of second generation antihistamines that you know, don't easily cross 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.640 the blood brain barrier and don't work against the cetocline, 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.080 so they have fewer side effects. Like my girls are tech. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.520 I am a clariton girl. Honey, mmm, see this. The's 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:40.000 got to stick together their tech for Zekiah. So that is, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.920 it's not bad news unless you are taking a bit 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.200 of drill every night. And if you're I don't even 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.280 know how you're operating daily. Anyway, I'm so drowsy after honestly, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.440 I take a Beta jo, I'm asleep for the next week. Okay, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:56.800 that stuff is strong. Out of office, I feel like 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.840 pollen is always my big allergy. But I also think 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.160 about people who are allergic to like animals, so like 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.200 pets and things like that. Yeah, I can't imagine being 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.120 allergic to pets. I mean, you know, I have my 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:15.360 dog Daisy. Yes, she's getting old and stressing me out. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:20.640 I could not handle more stress from that. You know, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.240 I think maybe that's exactly what maybe that's the stress 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.120 you get is balanced out because you know, people are 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.160 saying it's good to have pets, like it's good for you, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.760 good for you mentally. Absolutely, I've seen studies like that 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.800 that said that people who have pets, you know, have 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.280 less stress, less anxiety, and there's even been a few 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.240 early studies that say that people with pets live longer. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.480 Now that's an interesting case because my parents didn't let 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.760 me happen, and so you know, these parents are against us. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.840 I will have to take that information back because I 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.960 didn't grow up with pets. Though you know, it makes 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:58.280 me such a lover of all my friends pets like 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:03.440 your Chihuahwah Daisy. Yes, And I think at this big age, 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.600 the way that shows up my love for pets is 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:10.080 watching non stop had videos like I'm watching the poodles 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.800 with attitudes, the huskies that are growling in barker back. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.720 Oh my girl. I love watching all the videos. And 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.280 before you jump on me, I feel like Daisy has 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.240 personality just the first dog I knew that could make 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:25.680 the b sound. Excuse most dogs they woof and how 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.480 but they don't use their lips to make the meat. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:33.360 And Daisy chim I know to do that, and I 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.040 feel like I have a lot in common with the 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.000 creators online, like Tony Baker and Super Ray fourteen. When 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.400 they're doing those voiceovers, I'm like, yes, give me the 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.160 personality of these animals. What are they thinking? You know 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.240 what's going on? Do you not watch these people on it? No? 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.760 Not really No, I've seen a few of them, but 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.520 I don't really watch them consistently. Do you think? What 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.560 do you think? Days sounds like I have a voice 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.680 that I used to imitate Daisy. What's your voice for Daisy? 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.520 Because Daisy I know her so well. I know she's 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.760 not smart, she has a whole backstory and everything. So 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.040 my Daisy voice I have to like close my eyes 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:06.479 because I can't even look at you and do it. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:13.080 It's like DZ does like foods. DZI was in your 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:18.440 foods on used plate. GESZ doesn't want Diz's food. It's 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:25.639 not good. That's wild. First of all, Daisy Southern in 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:32.480 my books. And maybe because I'm thinking about Daisy, Duke's Okay, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.080 that's all wrong. I know that's your dogs, so you 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.720 can have your own voice, but I think it's wrong. Okay, 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.359 But all of these things like with these voiceovers, it 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.240 makes me wonder like do animals have feelings? Like are 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.360 we is it just anthropomorphism? Are we assigning these values? 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.920 Or is there more than what we think is going on? 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:55.200 Like do they actually have feelings? And if they're using 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.080 those buttons, do they really know what's happening? Is it 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.720 because they're trying to tell us something? You know, when 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.919 I had Daisy, When I first got Daisy and I 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.080 was back in Durham and grad school with you, I 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.480 would leave her in my apartment to go to campus 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.560 to educate myself, and I would get back and she 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.359 would flip her She would have flipped her water bowl 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.119 over and I would come back and see it in 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:24.520 waters everywhere. I got the message communication protest. I was like, hey, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.480 you don't pay no bills here. I don't know. She 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.760 definitely got a personality. Daisy Dog and Corey Book are 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:36.399 both taking a stand for rights. When I was thinking 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.160 about this, it sent me down this whole rabbit hole. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.960 And I was reading this like editorial was a perspective 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:47.720 piece in science and it was called evaluating Animal Consciousness, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.960 And they're basically saying that a lot of what we're 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.040 doing to under we don't even have a real definition 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:59.880 for consciousness basically, And I said, the science is lagging, right, 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:03.800 that's wild. So they're saying conscious we should think of 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.399 consciousness as this continuum because so much of what we 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.960 do is basically inference. Like we're looking at what we 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.959 do as humans and we're saying, do these other animals 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.040 do this? And not like what we call quote unquote 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:20.919 smart animals like dolphins and dogs and primates. But they're saying, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.119 do we see other things we do like in other animals? 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.280 Is are they avoiding pain? And I'm like, there's more 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.560 to life than just avoiding pain. Are they choosing comfort? 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.240 You know, are tending to their wounds? But because there's 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.040 no solid definition and most of the evidence that we 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.320 used to define consciousness is directly related to pain, I 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.520 think there's a lot more to explore there, right. Because 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.199 it was a philosophical study, so somebody was reading a 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.240 bunch of other articles. It wasn't experimental. But that made 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.119 me feel like, you know, Dacy turned that bowl over 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.679 for a reason. It wasn't an accident. It was not 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.040 an accident. Oh, I mean when Tyson came around, there 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:05.399 was a clear shift in attitude. Daisy became the ultimate teenager. Mom, 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.720 leave me alone. You always just want to talk to 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:26.679 the baby. You're not talking to anybody, like, oh god, listen, 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.240 I'm just saying the animals might have something to say, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.800 and we need to be careful because there's something else 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.639 going on with the animals too. What now, This is 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.720 an update from my field, So a little bit spooky, 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.880 but a little bit fun. Okay, Okay. So there's this outfit. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.040 They're called Colossal Biosciences. They're a company out of Texas, 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:55.600 and they're basically doing some de extinction projects. It's a 0:20:56.000 --> 0:21:00.200 extinction so things that have if we think of about 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.440 animals that have become extinct, put a d in the front, 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:08.480 take it away, bring it back in the Jurassic Park. 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.520 So that's what they're doing. Well, they're starting out. They 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:13.440 were looking at the wooly mammoth and they were saying, 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.080 you know, when we look at genetic information, when we 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.879 even when we compare humans to other species, there's a 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.000 lot of core genetic information, but then there are some 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.640 things that are different, and what of those differences which 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.320 are responsible for the features that we say, hey, this 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.640 is what makes this species species a versus this species 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.159 B and species B. And so they looked at the 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:33.919 wooly mammoth and they said, when we look at all 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.199 these things, there are a couple of genes that we 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.560 feel like are responsible for features that feel very key 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.480 to the wooly mammoth, like that really long coat and 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.240 having a lot of fat for I mean, the wily 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.760 mammoths was in very cold environment, so being able for 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:53.160 thermal insulation, yes, insulation, and for energy because fat storage, 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:55.800 you know a way to burn keep that energy on. 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.520 And so they said, let's take those things that are 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.479 distinct to the wooly mammoth. Let's see if we can 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.399 put it on a mouse. And they did. They had 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.359 these mice at store fat in the way that wooly 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.840 mammoths do, and they had like a wooly coat, like 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.479 a wooly mammoth coat on a mouse. Isn't that crazy 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.120 They genetically engineered that. Let me tell you this, This 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:18.960 doesn't feel correct. This really is making me nervous. It 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:23.480 sounds like Jurassic Park. When these little wooly mice rise 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:27.920 up and decide, stand on their hind left and decide 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.720 no more. They're in trouble. Like when it planted the apes, 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:37.959 when Caesar said, no, exactly, that was wild. Well, I 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:40.159 hate to tell you that's just the tip of the 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:44.399 iceberg of the wooly mammoth iceberg, because what else did 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:47.000 they make wooly Well, it didn't make something those holies. 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.520 But the latest thing is somebody messaged me about this 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:52.240 and was like, did you see the dire wolf is 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:55.720 coming back? I said, I know you're not talking about 0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.840 John Snow in the Game of Thrones. Turns out that 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.840 same company took gray wolf cells and they modified about 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.680 twenty genes that are tied to key features of dire wolves, okay. 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:11.520 And to even get that, they have to collect ancient bones, 0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.840 and so they were using ancient DNA technology to be 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:17.240 able to even assemble those genomes, figure out those important genes, 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.959 modify them. I'm here to tell you today that there 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:23.679 are three wolves with the dire wolf DNA okay that 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:29.199 are alive right now, three hybrid gray wolf dire wolf creatures. 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.320