WEBVTT - Mailbag: ANGC’s New Chairman, the FedEx Cup, and Walker Cup Selections

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<v Speaker 1>I miss the green.

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<v Speaker 2>For example, I'm already upset.

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<v Speaker 3>When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a frid Egg

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<v Speaker 1>Friday egg, the dreaded Frida Egg Friday, Frida Frida Egg

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<v Speaker 1>Bride Egg.

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<v Speaker 3>Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Frida Egg Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm here with Kyle Nathan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to break down and answer your questions in

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<v Speaker 1>another mailbag pod.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle, welcome on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, Yeah, ready to go do some podcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's the new?

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<v Speaker 2>Not too much? Watch some USAM golf last weekend. It

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<v Speaker 2>was exciting. You got the playoffs underway. Pretty good time

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<v Speaker 2>for golf here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's uh, It's it's okay. I just can't seem

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<v Speaker 3>to get excited about the FedEx Cup playoffs for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge fan of watching. I watched this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend and then once football starts, like gonna really lose

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<v Speaker 2>interest rapidly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I guess that's why they're changing the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just dive into the questions here.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a lot of them, So thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who asks them. If you if you're not on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>just email us questions and uh we'll put them in here. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Blanket Ship is asking about fred Ridley, the new

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<v Speaker 1>man at at the Masters in Augusta.

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<v Speaker 3>So three things.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd like to see fred Ridley change about Masters Augusta

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<v Speaker 1>National within the first few years as chairman, Kyle, what

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you start off by telling us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about fred Ridley.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he did some research.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Fred Ridley? I was interested to know because

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<v Speaker 2>obviously that's such a prominent position in the golf world,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was shocked. He's played in five majors, three

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<v Speaker 2>of which were the Masters. He's a two time Walker

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<v Speaker 2>Cup captain and ex president of the USGA. I think

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and four to two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 2>he started out as an agent at IMG. He managed

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<v Speaker 2>Hal Sutton and he was handpicked by Billy Payne in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven to follow him up. And he's only been

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<v Speaker 2>a member since two thousand. So obviously with this guy's pedigree,

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<v Speaker 2>they hold him an extremely high regard because you think

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<v Speaker 2>Augusta is such an old school club where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that would be in charge is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his great grandfather was a member, and so the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to a guy that's only been a

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<v Speaker 2>member seventeen years, to me, says just how valuable they

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<v Speaker 2>see him and how great they think he'll be in

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<v Speaker 2>this role.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's that's kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really like that he has played in a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of majors.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll probably help the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be just like a lot of little things,

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<v Speaker 1>but that he does, but he knows what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to actually play, which I think is always important with tournaments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, it's huge. I mean there's no substitute.

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<v Speaker 3>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why they always say the USGA events are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gonna be bad because they are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>amateurs running around running a tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have a lot of USGA questions to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But first, what about the rest of this The three

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<v Speaker 2>things he'd like to see Fred change?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, I mean I think it. There's a big

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<v Speaker 1>trend in the world of golf and golf courses of

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<v Speaker 1>wiping away changes that any member of the Jones family

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<v Speaker 1>has done to a golf course and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first one, getting Augusta back to what it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Even Tiger Woods was talking about it in

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<v Speaker 1>his most recent book about how much it's changed over

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<v Speaker 1>the years and how there's you know, the inception of

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<v Speaker 1>long grass, like you know, the idea of like if

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<v Speaker 1>you hit a bad drive in the old days, it

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<v Speaker 1>just would run because it was all fair. We it

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<v Speaker 1>would just run into the pine straw, into the trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the rough stops it all right. So that would

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<v Speaker 1>be number one on my list. Number two, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be pretty cool if they did a tournament ball

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<v Speaker 1>there so they stopped just adding length and buying land

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<v Speaker 1>and just said, hey, you got to use this ball

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Nobody's turning down an invite to the Masters.

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<v Speaker 1>And Third, I think it'd have to be the telecast,

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<v Speaker 1>like getting US Masters all day, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I think that's by far my least favorite

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Masters is you get very limited coverage,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's part you know, I think they see it

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<v Speaker 2>as a prestige thing, you know, supply and demand, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't think in this day and age,

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<v Speaker 2>with so many different ways to watch golf and the

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<v Speaker 2>different ways it's being presented. I mean, you could watch

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<v Speaker 2>it on Twitter earlier this year. I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a great strategy. People are gonna watch no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what. You know, the Masters. I have plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>friends that only watch the Masters, and you know they'll

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<v Speaker 2>watch the extra four or five hours a day if

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<v Speaker 2>you put it on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember, like coworkers, like in an office setting,

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<v Speaker 1>like even casual the most casual golf fans would have

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<v Speaker 1>it on like on their computer and be exc I

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<v Speaker 1>did about the Masters. So I feel like while the

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<v Speaker 1>wall coverage would be uh would be very cool and

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<v Speaker 1>a good it would probably be the best first and

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<v Speaker 1>easiest step of his chairmanship.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey do you do you know what happened to golf

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter? The live golf? Did it work? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>I saw an article? I mean this was months ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't know how accurately I'm remembering it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing an article that it wasn't going well

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean barely anybody was watching. So I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to guess that they, you know, kind of acts that out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a tough thing to watch because

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<v Speaker 1>they were putting it like the first hour of coverage

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter during the week which is like when people

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<v Speaker 1>are on commutes to work. So I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't go well. Like why not put it on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter on the weekend or something, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like simulcast it like they did with the Thursday night

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<v Speaker 2>football in the NFL. Something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just doesn't seem like it was a well thought out

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<v Speaker 1>plan there.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see well before we go on. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see beer on the par three course. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that it's a rule there where they don't serve

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<v Speaker 2>beer or alcohol on the par three course during the

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<v Speaker 2>tournament on Wednesday, and I'd like to see them do

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<v Speaker 2>it simply because I think you'll have more guys out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not like your crowd at Augusta's your riff raff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, crazy baba boo yelling crowd, So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's any danger in letting them drink beer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I've never been to Augusta, but I've heard the

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<v Speaker 3>security is very over zealous, so I imagine that if

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<v Speaker 3>you just serve beer during the part three you would

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<v Speaker 3>let those security go. It's got through a few more

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<v Speaker 3>people thrown out, which probably would make them happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll execute you if they catch you with a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird loophole and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 3>Law, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Augusta, Pedro asks he saw that there there's

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of Steve Spurrier peeing at Augusta National that

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<v Speaker 1>dead Spin posted, and he wants to know, is this

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<v Speaker 1>acceptable perceptible to do at like a high profile club

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<v Speaker 1>such as Augusta or you know, any other high profile

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<v Speaker 1>club for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell you a story were I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>in a college tournament at Big Canyon out in California.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was uc Irvines tournament. And during the

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<v Speaker 2>practice round, I guess this kid went on this I

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<v Speaker 2>think the part three if it's eight or seventeen, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember, sixteen something like that, went towards the houses.

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<v Speaker 2>And and then that night at the welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Tournament dinner, they made a stern announcement that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a lady was out, you know, her in her kitchen

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<v Speaker 2>having breakfast, and she turned around and saw this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>penis and it was a major issue, do not piss

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<v Speaker 2>on the course in any circumstances, and literally got I

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<v Speaker 2>got to the hole. The next day in the first

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<v Speaker 2>round of the tournament and there was two like bodyguards

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<v Speaker 2>guarding that lady's front lawn. I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen anything like this. So you think the

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<v Speaker 2>answer is no, it's not acceptable. But as I've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>to play with older guys at you know, my club

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<v Speaker 2>back home and all that, I mean, they'll just whip

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<v Speaker 2>it out and pee anywhere in mid conversation. I think they,

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<v Speaker 2>the old timers, think it's not a big deal. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, what'd you hit there? Eight iron? And

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<v Speaker 2>you look over and they're just pissing right next to

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<v Speaker 2>the fairway. You're like, oh, okay, So I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a generational thing. I think now now

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably viewed as unacceptable, but someone of Spurrior's generation,

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<v Speaker 2>I think sees no problem with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think My big thing is I always look around,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure there's no women, no children around before I

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<v Speaker 1>before I pee.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you gotta go, you gotta go, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, there's nothing worse than playing a tournament and

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<v Speaker 2>you know the guy you're playing with has like his

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<v Speaker 2>three sisters and mom and girlfriend watching, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, where am I going to go piss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one one year when I was playing junior golf,

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<v Speaker 1>I played with this kid and he had irritable bowel

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome and we were playing this tournament and he turns

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<v Speaker 1>out he had this problem regularly. He carried around toilet

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<v Speaker 1>paper in his golf bag. And it was a course

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<v Speaker 1>that was like a residential development. And next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I gotta go to the bathroom. And

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<v Speaker 1>he went and knocked down a couple people's doors and

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<v Speaker 1>asked their bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's aggressive carrying in his own toilet paper, So

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<v Speaker 3>that that's a bigger problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, Yeah, that would that would be a severe issue.

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<v Speaker 4>So getting into the us GA, we got just tons

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<v Speaker 4>of questions here about the Walker Cup and the us

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<v Speaker 4>AM and it seems like it was a big hot

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<v Speaker 4>topic over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>People are getting fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll see which one's the best one to start

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<v Speaker 1>with here?

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<v Speaker 3>Worst move walker from the U s G A Walker Cup, private.

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<v Speaker 1>Walker Cup, private selection process, ending pub links, or dropping

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<v Speaker 1>state team.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, that's an easy answer, dropping the state team.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my I played in the last too, luckily,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had so much fun. You know, it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a big tournament. They got the USGA red flags, so

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you're you know, it's a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always at nice clubs in great shape, and you

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<v Speaker 2>get to do it with you know, your friends or teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the fields are incredible. So I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 2>fan of the state team. It was definitely my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>tournament the Pub Links. I still don't really understand to

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<v Speaker 2>this day what the rules were for playing in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's where the big issue came, because

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<v Speaker 2>you had guys whose parents were members at clubs but

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<v Speaker 2>didn't use the club so they could play. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I had a buddy that actually got pulled

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<v Speaker 2>off the golf course at the Publinks in Utah because

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<v Speaker 2>he was had a range membership at a club even

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<v Speaker 2>though he didn't belong at the club. So the rules

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<v Speaker 2>around that were so weird. Plus they replaced it with

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<v Speaker 2>the four ball, which I think is a major hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone loves. You got guys who you know, probably don't

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<v Speaker 2>sign up for mid am qualifiers or am qualifiers, but

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<v Speaker 2>will sign up for the Publink or excuse me, the

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<v Speaker 2>four ball, So I think that's a great move and

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<v Speaker 2>the Walker Cup. You know, as far as the private

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<v Speaker 2>selection process that happens a lot, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really have a huge problem with it. Obviously we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about some of the snubs, but yeah, it's their event.

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<v Speaker 2>They want to win it. I guarantee you that the

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<v Speaker 2>people in charge of that event care if they win it.

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<v Speaker 2>So too, they might play a little bit of favorites

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<v Speaker 2>here and there, but I don't have a huge problem

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<v Speaker 2>with the private selection process. I mean, that's how a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the world does business anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's my thing. That's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this, people like especially media crying for

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<v Speaker 1>like a Walker Cup points list just want it so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can have like easy content to point to

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<v Speaker 1>and easy storylines. And nobody really follows college and amateur

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<v Speaker 1>golf that closely, with the exception of like three people.

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<v Speaker 1>So then when the USAM or the Walker Cup rolls around,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, I don't know anything about this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they had this list, they could be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's six in the pointsless, you know, right, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I yeah, I think the State team I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem they've done A bit worst thing they've

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<v Speaker 1>done is dropping state team because what it does is

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<v Speaker 1>it it has a trickle down effect and it hurts

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<v Speaker 1>the local state golf associations as well, because to make

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<v Speaker 1>the state team, you need to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top three amateurs in the state that you represent. So

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to play and it would often be

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<v Speaker 1>dictated based off of these states pointless and season long

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<v Speaker 1>points less or two year long points less. So in

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<v Speaker 1>order to make the state team, which everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do because it's a cool event, as you alluded to,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have to play in all the state events

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<v Speaker 1>or the vast majority of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Now without state.

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<v Speaker 1>Team, there's like literally no reason to play in these

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<v Speaker 1>events or the state am because you could go play

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<v Speaker 1>in like a nice invitational instead and not lose anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the state team rankings.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and you lose, you lose. I mean, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many cool experience. I you know, I had the fortunate

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<v Speaker 2>of being in the final group of the final round

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<v Speaker 2>in the twenty fourteen state team. I mean, in all

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<v Speaker 2>likelihood will never be in the last group of a

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<v Speaker 2>final round of a USJ event again, because I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's not really unless you're playing in the Masters. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the Usam finals or in the mid Am finals.

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<v Speaker 2>But and we played with Alaska, you know, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was cool playing with them. And they were telling me

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<v Speaker 2>their golf seasons like six weeks long and the stint

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<v Speaker 2>meter green the green greens are running six on the

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<v Speaker 2>stint meter. I'm like, that's crazy stuff. And the guy

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<v Speaker 2>shot like eighty two or something. I'm like, wow, that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy plays twelve times a year. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you miss out on a lot a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>cool experiences. And I think they did it. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>they did it for greed basically, which is what I

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem with that. You know, they don't make

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<v Speaker 2>any money off the event. It's it's a production to

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<v Speaker 2>put on because you do have one hundred and fifty players.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a little more because I think Puerto Rico and

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<v Speaker 2>and captains and you have you know, the dinners because

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<v Speaker 2>it's generally an older crowd. But it's not just mid ams.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's kind of a misnomer. Juniors can play too,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I know Sam Horsefield played in the

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<v Speaker 2>one a few years ago. T K Kelly t K

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly friend out of college.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, friend of the pod now Latino American Tour winner

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<v Speaker 1>to a star.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's on Star.

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<v Speaker 3>He just entered the LO Cinco. He's in the top five.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh that's big in Narco's tour.

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<v Speaker 3>Huge. I'm playing with tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, oh boy, nice? What are you guys playing?

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<v Speaker 3>Conway?

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet?

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<v Speaker 3>So it should be good.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see bigger Walk Cup snub John Peterson a few

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<v Speaker 1>years ago or Sam Burns. Both happened to attend LSU.

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<v Speaker 1>Both starred at LSU.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Maybe the selection

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<v Speaker 2>committee members are Bama fans or something, because that seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a total LSU vandetta. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say sam Burns, but I know you. I'll kick it

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<v Speaker 2>to you because you probably probably have some better color

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It's a tough one. Sam Burns had

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<v Speaker 3>an unbelievable college here.

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<v Speaker 1>But Peterson won Jones Cup and and the NCAAA, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to a certain extent, like the resume of

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<v Speaker 1>Braden Thornberry. Maybe not quite as I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>he won anything that summer, but essentially Braden Thornberry, which

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<v Speaker 1>was like all lock and Sam Burns had a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rough summer outside of his Barbersol when or is

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<v Speaker 1>Barbersol T.

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<v Speaker 2>Six which pretty huge though, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It is huge. That leads us into the next question.

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<v Speaker 1>Those last two were from Port Golf. Philip Johnson asked,

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<v Speaker 1>should Burns have made it over Scheffler? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's like the big debate, you know, Scheffler versus

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<v Speaker 1>Burns when you know, so, how do you weigh Burns

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<v Speaker 1>T six at the Barbersol versus a T twenty seventh

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<v Speaker 1>at the US Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Which one's more impressive?

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<v Speaker 2>I think obviously the T twenty seven probably at the

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<v Speaker 2>US Open, and for sure in the eyes of the USGA,

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<v Speaker 2>that's more impressive. And that's really what it boiled down to, is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Scheffler's USGA pedigree versus Burns. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a guy that won the Junior Low Am at

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<v Speaker 2>the Open. I mean, he's one of their own, He's

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<v Speaker 2>he's they've all spent tons of time around him, and

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<v Speaker 2>and that that just gives him a clear edge.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on that World Amateur team last year too,

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<v Speaker 1>that right, so, you know, I think, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing about the US Open T. Twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>there is like going through, getting through local, getting through

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<v Speaker 1>sectional qualifying.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, yeah, it's I mean, it's brutal to make you

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<v Speaker 2>have to play what seven pretty solid rounds, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe six six great rounds, five great rounds and two

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<v Speaker 2>solid rounds were you know, not to take anything away

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<v Speaker 2>from a sixth on tour, but you know that's four

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<v Speaker 2>solid rounds. So I'd give the edge to the US Open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, opposite field event too, so one of the weaker fields.

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<v Speaker 3>And Scheffler. I think Scheffler was the fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Hole leader at at the NCAA's too, so it's like

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<v Speaker 1>not like he's like, you know, he he played really

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<v Speaker 1>well there.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, these two are kind of related here is it me?

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<v Speaker 2>Or as Walker cup discussed and critiqued more than ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that just golf Twitter? That's from John Willis

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<v Speaker 2>And then Todd wants to know Sam Bird's robbery. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems magnified by golf Twitter. So basically is Twitter blowing

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<v Speaker 2>this up?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think all these social networks like prey

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<v Speaker 1>on outrage, you know, when outrage happens, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could be out there throwing around like the

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<v Speaker 1>most sensical takes on golf and and somebody that just

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<v Speaker 1>is yelling at the clouds will probably get more attention

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<v Speaker 1>than you.

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<v Speaker 3>So anything that you can stir up drama with.

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<v Speaker 1>And allow for people to get outraged about, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be magnified. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I find interesting about the Walker Cup is like you

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<v Speaker 1>get all of these golf commentators, is that pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to golf, to amateur golf like three times a year,

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<v Speaker 1>like throwing their two cent in about you know things

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<v Speaker 1>because they watched, you know, a couple hours of the

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<v Speaker 1>US am this this week.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you didn't like Shannon Sharp and Skip Bayless

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<v Speaker 2>talking golf leading into the Open.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually kind of did like that because like forever

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<v Speaker 1>now we have like Ricky Fowler isn't tall enough to win?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was a huge fan of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think, I mean maybe now Risillo we could

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<v Speaker 3>get him. Is it too soon?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think he'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, what do you I mean, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's blown up? I mean, obviously I know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the questions down the line from our buddy,

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<v Speaker 2>the angry golfer in glen View, he says, Walker Cup,

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<v Speaker 2>why do they need two Ams or two mid Ams,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say. And that was one thing that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being friends with a lot of mid Ams, following a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of mid AM's on Twitter, like the outrage was insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know, I think I was following

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<v Speaker 2>the four hundred people in the world that actually care

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<v Speaker 2>that the Walker Cup is, you know, only doing one

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<v Speaker 2>mid Am and not two. And the reason as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a huge fan of midam tournaments and I am a

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 2>mid Am, but you know, for a mid Am gets

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<v Speaker 2>to play in the Masters, I mean, I don't know

0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 2>what else these guys want, because you should take the

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<v Speaker 2>twelve best guys. It should be a competitive team and

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<v Speaker 2>the best team that gives you the chance to win.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I hope it's eight mid Ams to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, but in reality it's probably not. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Stuart deserves to go this year. He's proven it,

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<v Speaker 2>not just by winning the mid Am but he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Masters, he proved it, he made the US Open.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got he's he's definitely proved it. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's enough for me. I think that there's no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to force an honor. You know this that everyone's so

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<v Speaker 2>against the participation medals, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you take away one of the Midam spots and these

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<v Speaker 2>same people are like, oh my god, you know that's ridiculous.

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 2>The USGA has a bandetta against Midam's. I don't think

0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that's the case. I just think they want to put

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<v Speaker 2>the best team on the golf course, and I'm totally

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<v Speaker 2>fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I think it's one spot's enough. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's it's pretty fair for one and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how many. Like Hagastad's an example of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that like went above and beyond to get like if

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<v Speaker 1>there were no spots, he probably still would have gotten

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>a spot, right, So I think like he's a rare

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<v Speaker 1>case where it's like extremely like this team especially, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think some of the outrage came, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that this was probably one of the more

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<v Speaker 1>competitive and closely.

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<v Speaker 3>You know contested Walker Cup, Like there were you could

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<v Speaker 3>you could have picked twenty players for the last two

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<v Speaker 3>spots on that team and and nobody it wouldn't have

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 3>been like we could have made the same case for

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<v Speaker 3>them over over Burns or whoever you might be.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It could have been you know, John Odo was a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that had like an incredible.

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:21.479
<v Speaker 3>Last year of golf. But you know, nobody brought him up.

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>But he like he mondayed into a PGA Tour event.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he made it to the final sixteen of

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 1>the US Am. He was a first team All American. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that guy had a great year too. He

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<v Speaker 1>qualified for the US Open. So it's like, you know,

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>there's there's twenty guys that could have gotten that last spot.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think when when you look at when you

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<v Speaker 3>compare the next best mid am to that to those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really compare.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh a hundred percent. I mean, I know the guy

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about in particular, Scott Harvey, He's had a great,

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, great year. He took to Twitter to vent

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 2>out some of his frustrations, which I thought was questionable.

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you look at like a guy like

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Nick Hardy or somebody, you know, they you know, they

0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 2>deserve they deserve it over Scott. So I don't I

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the what the big hubbub is about that.

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like Nick.

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Nick Hardy is another great example, Like until the US Am,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>he hadn't finished outside of the top ten in uh

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>in an amvent for like the entire summer. It's like

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>it is an it's a whole nother question. Like it

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.600
<v Speaker 1>is like, how do you value consistency in golf? So

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like a guy that is a top ten machine, I

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like Kocher gets aligned for it being a top

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>ten machine versus a guy that wins once or twice

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a year, which which would you rather be?

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? God, winning is really fun, but also playing bad

0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is so frustrating. I think you're you would have you'd

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>be happier and live longer if you were the couture

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 2>of the world getting you know, T nine's all day,

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>but you probably have more fun winning more. I don't

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.320
<v Speaker 2>know that's such a i'd say. I personally, I probably

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>would rather win and do the old Calcavecia where you

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 2>play well four times a year and you know you're

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 2>thrilled with that. But but in reality, I think I

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 2>value the consistency guy more because you can you can

0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.360
<v Speaker 2>find yourself in the winner circle on accident if you're

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that consistent, you know what I mean?

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I feel like I think Tiger once

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>said it is like in golf, everybody's just trying to

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>get more consistent, right, So I think that's like the

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the thing that we all chase, like, you know, that's

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.200
<v Speaker 1>our crack as consistency is like, well if I could

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>just play like that all the time. Is like what

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody says after they play the best round of.

0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Their lives, right, it's funny.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:27:00.440
<v Speaker 3>So it consistency. I think it just it's just doesn't

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 3>get enough love. You know, in golf, here's.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 2>A midam cousse. Sorry, oh go ahead.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, how would you if you needed

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a better selection process, how would you do it?

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I you could do it. I think the

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 2>obvious answer is to do something similar to you know,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>the Ryder Cup where you had a points list and

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it's tough though, because then you really cut out

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>the mid AM's because all the event it's the same

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 2>thing as kind of the world rankings. Why it's so

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>hard for midam to gain any traction there is because

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you're not playing in the college events, and the college

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.200
<v Speaker 2>events have to be waited for the Walker Cup because

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 2>that's primarily your team. So that that's tricky to me.

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that there's a great way to do it.

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, a lot of these guys are eighteen, nineteen

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>years old, so you know, having a player's vote doesn't

0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 2>really make sense. I'm fine with in the committee, I'm

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>not I don't really support any alternatives.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 3>I think that that the captain.

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know this until last week, that the

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:13.479
<v Speaker 1>captain doesn't actually have any say on the team. And

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy like trucking around all spring and all

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>year round, like traveling to.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 3>These events, and he doesn't even get a vote. I mean,

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 3>that's that's kind of crazy to me.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that either. Yeah, that's not even a vote.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, that's what That's what I was informed

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 3>last week. I was like, whoa, this is kind of crazy.

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I think one solution might be like, hey, like you

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>know how the Ryder Cup, like you get you got

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the top, you know, say six guys, you just put

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>him on the team, you know before like the last

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>two months of the season and like, hey, these are

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>our six guys were rolling with no matter what, you know,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>and then and then do the last four at after

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the USM.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 3>That could be a solution.

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think that's fine. But the argument

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>against that obviously is you're you're one through six in

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>this case, in this Walker cup. I mean to tell

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 2>me if I'm wrong, But those guys are on the

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 2>team anyway, right, I don't know.

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I think like Dylan Meyer would have been on the

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 1>team and probably burned if you did it.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I don't know. Well yeah, two months ago, that's true.

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 3>It's a good I think it's just fine. Just nobody.

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>We don't need transparency into this. We don't need to

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>know how all these decisions are being made.

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I agree, totally fine, leave it alone.

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's see here.

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>This was a thoughtful question from Stephen Carroll, an Aussie,

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's staying on this mid am golf thing.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Sorry for anybody not interested in this, but when did

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>they lower the American mid am age to twenty five

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and how it affected the true middle aged golfers like

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.480
<v Speaker 1>me in the thirty five to fifty bracket.

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Is there any talk about.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Reducing the age of seniors likewise to forty or forty

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>five like the midam is so in Australia, the midam

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>age is thirty to fifty, not twenty five to fifty

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like it is here.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.479
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I'm actually not sure when they

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 2>lowered the midam age to twenty five, do you know?

0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not sure either.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>It probably was like twenty years ago, I want to say,

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe less.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's a fine idea thirty five to

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty or even thirty to fifty. In the reality, you know,

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>when you play in a lot of these tournaments, for

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the most part, you don't see many guys under thirty.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Obviously there's exceptions, like we just talked about Stuart. You know,

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 2>he won the tournament last year. He was a young kid,

0:30:56.040 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 2>barely twenty five, But for the most part, there aren't many.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that the more angst from mid ams comes from,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, guys with a million dollars in PGA Tour

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 2>earnings playing in an event at forty two, rather than

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, a twenty five year old playing playing an event.

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I think. I think that's where the frustration comes from

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 2>from some of my friends. Versus age. I'm not sure

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 2>age is a big deal. I think reducing the senior

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 2>age would be a neat idea, though I think you'd

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 2>get a lot more competitiveness. It might not be fair

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>to the guys that are pushing sixty, but some of

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 2>them are. I mean, unbelievable. There's some fifty eight, sixty nine,

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>sixty sixty five year olds that can still shoot sixty

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>nine to seventy anywhere. So I think that's a good question.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that mid am bracket is fine. Lawa in

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the senior could be cool though.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think one of the things with mid ams

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is it's tough for most midams to play tournament golf

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>from ages like twenty three to thirty because you're starting

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>your career, you know, and it's like you're you're probably

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>working a low tier job with limited vacation and limited

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, your weekend priorities are a lot different at

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, twenty five, twenty six than they are at

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty five.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Being a really good midham at at age twenty five

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>is is rare because of like just life, you have

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to have like the right kind of setup in situation

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, a really great midam, and and

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, a lot of the really great

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 1>players at that age are playing trying to play professional golf.

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 3>At twenty five.

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think that age is fine, and I agree

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the uh, it's the former PGA Tour players

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>that are Midam's is the bigger problem as far as

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 1>lowering the senior age, Like I think you'd have to

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>lower the senior tour age, but that's not that bad

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of an idea given where the tour is going. I mean,

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's only getting younger, and you're going to

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of guys at age thirty eight who

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 1>have been off the tour, who had good careers for

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>three or four years without anything to do until fifty.

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 3>So that that's a problem that's going to happen.

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's also gonna I mean they're going to

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>get if you take if you're not playing competitive golf

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 2>from thirty eight to fifty, I mean you're going to

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>probably lose the drive to play a little bit and

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>your game is going to be nowhere near you know,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>in good enough shape I think to compete at fifty.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So that is an interesting point. Yeah, I think they

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 2>definitely need to do something. I mean, forty five, do.

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>You see like a thirty eight year old tour pro

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>in ten years like going and playing on the Dakota's

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Tour because he's got nowhere to play Because of how

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>many young kids are in the game.

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.959
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think that, yeah, that would be

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>that would be a stretch.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I could just see him hanging out in a casino.

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Chad Campbell, Yeah, playing the E Golf Tour this week.

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, Zach Blair is playing the Utah State Open.

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I did see that. That's funny, it's.

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Kind of amazing.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 1>All Right, We're gonna have a news segment this week

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to the pod where we have to pick sides. I

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like we're very agreeable, so so we're gonna we're

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna run down three topics and we're gonna each pick

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>a side and argue for the side. We're gonna start

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>with Kyle. Should Rory be playing or resting this week

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>or the whole playoffs really the rest of the year.

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>For me, that is an easy one. I think he

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>should be playing. As we mentioned earlier, you know, you're

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>playing for a significant amount of money, ten million dollars,

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>so you should you should give it, You're all you know,

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>they always say, you know this guy plays hurt in golf.

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 2>I agree, it's not the greatest thing, but he seems healthy.

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't think if he was hurt he would have

0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>been playing. He wouldn't have played in the PGA. You know,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>he's probably very rusty. I think that injured and you know,

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>getting back in the swing of things. Sometimes are are overlapped.

0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I think he's healthy, he's not. He's not sharp because

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 2>of his injury, but he's not hurt. So I'm gonna say,

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>you only live once. You're playing for ten million bucks.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 2>You're you know, you're trying to become one of the

0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 2>big legends of the game. I think you play all.

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 3>Right, Well, I'm going to take the other side. He's

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>had a rough year.

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just need to just need to close the

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>book and start fresh. He's aid, uh, you know, new caddy.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess you know, he's trying out new caddies. He's

0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>got some deep selection process, he's got new equipment in

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the bag. But the biggest problem is, like I heard

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:08.399
<v Speaker 1>that his like left arm goes numb sometimes from this

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>rib injury. So like, get healthy, you know, start fresh

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.800
<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen or whenever you want to start your season.

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Enjoy life is a married man, Yeah, just just take

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>a chill pill. Because he's got plenty of money in

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the bank.

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 3>He probably hasn't even touched the ten million dollars he

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 3>won last year and come back in twenty eighteen, werefreshed

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 3>and go win the Career Grand Slam with thop Masters.

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe you should just move to Augusta and

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 1>just hang out down there all winter, be.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 2>A nice little life. Okay. Next one, should Maverick McNeely

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 2>turn pro.

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with no, because if he had, he's

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>he's announced this week he's turning pro. But if he had,

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>he could have become the greatest amateur to play the

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:08.800
<v Speaker 1>game since Bobby Jones, like his dad's worth a billion dollars,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, he doesn't need money, and frankly, I think

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>if anything, you know, like he could find professional golf

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to be very difficult and hard and and he might.

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Have instant success.

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.919
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he's gonna have instant success and

0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be strong. I mean, he'll obviously get

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sponsors exemptions, but I think in three

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>to five years he'll get tired of it and go

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>back to regular life. But and that'll just tarnish his

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to be this generation's Bobby Jones.

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say he should turn bro. Like I mentioned

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 2>with Rory, you have a chance to be. You know,

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I know his dad, and he's got more money than

0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.959
<v Speaker 2>he could ever spend, and you know that whole argument.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>But it's not all about the money. Sometimes it's about,

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, creating a legendary spot for yourself. And he

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 2>clearly has a ton of talent. You know, we've been

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:12.399
<v Speaker 2>hearing his name for so long, and I just think,

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 2>out of a out of an interest standpoint, I want

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>to see how he stacks up against the pros. You know,

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>is he is he going to be that good? You know,

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>maybe he is, maybe he isn't, But I'd like to

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 2>see how he stacks up. And I know, you know,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 2>ten years down the road, he's gonna wish he knew

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 2>how he stacked up. And lastly, when he's twenty five

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>years old in a few years, I do not want

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 2>to see him at the mid am. So I'm gonna

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 2>say he should absolutely turn pro.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 3>But but here's the thing.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't he be more legendary if he was actually different?

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, let's just say Maverick McNeely turns out

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to be great, like really great and wins a major.

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>What if he did that as an amateur? So I

0:38:53.000 --> 0:39:01.320
<v Speaker 2>would say in our world of you know, avid Gulf fans. Yes,

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.760
<v Speaker 2>he would be more legendary, but I think in the broader,

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 2>broader world he would not because I think that you know,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I just you know, pop culture legend status. You know,

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>he could win seven majors as a pro, you know,

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 2>and I think eventually people are going to be like, look, turnpro,

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>turn pro, turn pro. And I just think as an

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.840
<v Speaker 2>as a as a professional, he can accomplish more towards

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>being a legend.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 3>He wouldn't be able to play in like the Ryder Cup.

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 3>In the PGA, he could. I bet he could play

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:38.360
<v Speaker 3>in the Ryder Cup, could you that.

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to know that.

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Actually, he wouldn't be able to play in the President's Cup,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that's for sure.

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 2>So Ryder Cup is open to anyone, huh, I.

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Don't think so.

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think it's it's only open to pros now

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>that I think because it's run by the PGA of America.

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>So if you can't play in the PGA, you probably

0:39:57.400 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>can't play in the Ryder Cup.

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>So that's you're missing one of the you know, the

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.120
<v Speaker 2>casual golf fan or the non golf fan, you know,

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:06.360
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the events they.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.879
<v Speaker 3>Watch yeah, but think about winning the US Opener, the

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Masters is an amateur?

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think I think you're you're you're

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit. You know, you picture an amateur

0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 2>winning a major, and you immediately picture a kid, and

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 2>so you're like, oh my god, this kid won them

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>won a US Opener, This kid, you know, finished second

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.160
<v Speaker 2>in a tour event, blah blah blah. But I mean,

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're saying that when he's you know this, you know,

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 2>older than the guys he's playing with, It's like, Okay,

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 2>why is this guy not you know what's going on here?

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I don't know.

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You could do a lot of cool stuff with all

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that money. I feel like golf, being a professional golfer

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>would be a waste of a life.

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 3>But that's just me.

0:40:51.040 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I'd have I'd have more fun doing other stuff, you know,

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>starting stuff and listen to cool ideas.

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 3>All right, do do blimps deserve a place in the

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 3>game of golf?

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Since you are now Twitter's blimp expert, I'm gonna give

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>you this question to answer first. I'll let you pick

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>your side. No, and I think I.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Need They don't. They don't at all. They just are

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:21.239
<v Speaker 3>a nuisance. I mean, look at what the what the

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 3>blimps have been doing this year. At the Players, it

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 3>was flying really low and you know, buzzing around and

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 3>and then you know that's where blimp gate started. You know,

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 3>it was like it seemingly was flying lower in the.

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Morning on Thursday than it was on on in the afternoon.

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It was clearly had a vendetta against one of the

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 1>early morning players. And uh, then you know, one crashes

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>at the US Open and talk about craziness.

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>We're just lucky that nobody got was hurt. And then uh, and.

0:41:56.200 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Then at the at the PGA, people are complaining about it,

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like you know, players are complaining, players are stepping off balls,

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.320
<v Speaker 1>it's casting shadows over the greens, like you know, it's

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a nuisance of the game that can easily be solved

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>by like modern technology, like you could fly a drone

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>up and do the same exact thing as a blimp.

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 2>So drones and blimps obviously. I so that you just

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 2>stole one of my arguments. I was gonna say, you

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 2>got the great views, which I love. I think, you know,

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:31.919
<v Speaker 2>that's always a cool sight to see how the golf

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 2>course kind of fits together and you know, the routing,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>and you get that view from a blimp, which I

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:40.320
<v Speaker 2>like so much, just to kind of get a standpoint

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 2>where you are and all that. Plus you get nance

0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and is a oh what a fantastic view. Ill here

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 2>is San Antonio. You know you'll miss out on that.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And I do agree the renegade pilot was an issue

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>at the US Open. But I'm gonna say I like

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 2>the blimps. There's a big staple of of golf. I

0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>remember taking off from Ohair during the last time what

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 2>was it, the last time a tour event was in town,

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 2>uh at Conway, and we saw the blimp from the

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>plane and I thought it was pretty awesome, And you know,

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I waved at the guy. He for sure didn't see me,

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know that's what people in the air do,

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 2>you kind of wave at each other. So yeah, I'm

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 2>all for blimps.

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, you missed a big part of that argument.

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:31.879
<v Speaker 3>Four blimps is the marketing dial of dollars. Yeah, true,

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 3>good Year, good beer, Good Year. My arch nemesis is

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 3>the Goodyear blimp. This guy's had to had to tweet

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 3>at me on their way out of town last time.

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 2>Just speaking of vandetta as you have one against blimps.

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, blimps. Blimps need to go. All right, Let's uh,

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 3>let's move back to the questions.

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good, All.

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Right, here's a good question. Changing the subject. Chad from

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Deer Park back again. What's worse someone telling you about

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>their fantasy football roster or someone telling you a shot

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 1>by shot detail of their round?

0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Chad from Deer Part It's funny. I have a friend Chad,

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>and he always tells me about his fantasy league and

0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 2>it is super annoying. And so is the shot by shot.

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.959
<v Speaker 2>I think they're both like unacceptable. They should you should

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:27.240
<v Speaker 2>be arrested if you do either one. What's the worst

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 2>golfer is the one that says I shot seventy four,

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 2>but you know I should have birdied these six holes

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 2>where I was twenty feet and I just barely missed

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 2>a twenty footer, So really, my seventy four should have

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 2>been sixty two. You know, just a couple of bad breaks. Though,

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.959
<v Speaker 2>those guys are the worst, but you know they're both

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>equally bad. I don't know what I can't pick between

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 2>which is more annoying.

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think the shot by shot detail is

0:44:55.080 --> 0:45:00.720
<v Speaker 1>worse because like legitimately you're the only one that cares

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:04.240
<v Speaker 1>about it, and there's like no common bound, no common bond.

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Like if somebody's telling me about fantasy football, which is

0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>equally it's that it's it's egregious.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 3>You shouldn't be talking about your fantasy football roster.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>But you might have the same player and you could say, oh,

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>did this guy score a touchdown? You know, or or

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but like you telling me about how you

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>made a four on the seventh hole and like the

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 1>details of every shot, like I could care less, Like

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I almost don't like when people tell me about their

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>hole once.

0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Like like that that's funny.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 3>That might be the only acceptable shot to tell about

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 3>talk about, Like I don't really care.

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I only I only like hearing about like consecutive

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>holes you've holed out. Like if you get a nice

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>string of like three hole outs in a row and

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 2>a three hole span, then you can tell me about it.

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited. But fantasy football, that's a good point you made.

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>There's somebody else in the world that feels your pain.

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 2>You know that Odell just drop the past. You know

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't know him, probably, but there's a guy in

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Biloxi who's so upset because he just lost his fantasy

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 2>game too. So at least you got somebody you could

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>throw a dart and maybe get lucky. But yeah, golf,

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 2>you're right, you're on your own. Nobody, nobody gives a shit.

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:14.720
<v Speaker 2>As Jake Cutler would.

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Say, I would say, also, like the oh I should

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have shot thirty one, or I should have shot thirty two,

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 1>like or seventy one instead of seventy five. Like that's golf,

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody, nobody. You never finish a round of golf

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>where you walk off and say, oh, you know, I

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:33.200
<v Speaker 1>didn't leave any shots out there?

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever done that? No?

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Zero time? I mean the only way you do that

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.000
<v Speaker 2>is he shot fifty four, right.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, only that.

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 2>By the way, speaking of fifty four, you told me

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Louis Ustazen was three under through three, so potentially on

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 2>the next podcast we'll be discussing Louis fifty four.

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 3>He bogied four, so damn it, it's gone.

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:57.439
<v Speaker 2>So that's too bad.

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 3>King Louis. All right, Uh, journeyman, you'd most like to

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 3>see win a major? Uh?

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Kelly. I think Jerry Kelly is he plays well

0:47:13.160 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>with the players these days, you know, every now and then.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 2>It probably hasn't been for a few years, and I'm

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>probably just selectively remembering his successes. But he seems like

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 2>a great guy, Wisconsint guy. Wisconsin people are such good people.

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Seems like, you know, he gets angry, lets his emotions show.

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 2>He's put in, you know, years and years of work

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:36.359
<v Speaker 2>on the tour. I would love to see him win

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 2>a major.

0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>You know what would Monty count.

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Monty's got three majors. I don't know what you're talking about.

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:49.720
<v Speaker 3>That's true, I'd say, you know, I'd like to see

0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 3>a man.

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna go with Zach Blair.

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 3>He's I don't think he's a journeyman yet.

0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>No, not yet. He's too young. I'm just kidding.

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 3>He like got to the tour right out of college,

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 3>so that doesn't count. I'm gonna go over thirty.

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Ken Duke, Oh yeah, for sure.

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Did you see that, uh that swamp ass display he

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 3>put out there last week?

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have to google it.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, he.

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Was Ken Dukes swamp ass.

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 3>He was. He was wearing like cloth khakis. It was

0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 3>it was. It was honestly like he like he like

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 3>took a seat in a.

0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Pool that's legendary.

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, it only.

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Seems fitting that the man that played the greatest round

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>of golf ever wins a major.

0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree. I'll agree with you on kin Duke, but

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm still Jerry Kelly is slightly more than kin Duke.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>But Stricker would be cool too. But I don't know

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>if he's a journeyman.

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't consider him a journeyman. If you captain

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>of President's or Right Cup team, you can't be considered

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 2>a journeyman. Okay, let's go best way to ensure the

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:10.560
<v Speaker 2>top players participate in early events without the tour requiring it,

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 2>or just best way to improve the playoff.

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh so, like I think like the early events almost

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 3>have become too popular and it and it kind of

0:49:25.200 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 3>limits the events that these young guys can play. That

0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 3>like they get their card from the web dot Com Tour.

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, congratulations, you have you have three starts

0:49:35.520 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>in the fall, and if you don't play well, you

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>might not play again till Pebble Beach.

0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, here's your card. Now get on a plane.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 2>You got a tournament in three days.

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And then and then if they don't play. Like

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:48.520
<v Speaker 3>one of the most important things when you come.

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Up from the web dot com is is playing well

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in one of those three starts. Like if you don't,

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.359
<v Speaker 1>like you're kind of shit out of luck because your

0:49:56.360 --> 0:50:01.720
<v Speaker 1>next starts coming in, Like you know, there's a low field.

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.440
<v Speaker 1>So like what's happened is those fall events like the

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 1>veterans have seen, Oh my god, this is a great

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:10.879
<v Speaker 1>time to just rack up FedEx cup points because none

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.480
<v Speaker 1>of the star players are playing, so they all sign

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 1>up and play, and it limits the amount of starts of.

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 3>The young guys get.

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, especially like the guy that finishes twenty

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 1>second on the web dot Com Tour money list, like

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like at the very bottom of the total poll

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and he just there aren't any.

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Starts, right, I'm gonna rope this into a question that

0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Golf and Whiskey asked us if I can find it, Oh,

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.240
<v Speaker 2>here we go. Should the PGA Tour add more Monday

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 2>qualifying spots? Thoughts of the Tour Championship being match play

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 2>for ten million dollars thirty two spot bracket winner take

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 2>af so I mentioned that because I think I kind

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 2>of like where that's at. We talked about in the

0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 2>last part we did about the PGA Championship possibly being

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 2>match play. I think it would be really neat if

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:06.760
<v Speaker 2>you did a three weekend, three different venue golf course,

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the first and second rounds, third and fourth rounds,

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and then fifth and sixth rounds, and it was a

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 2>best and you played each each bracket. Each match was

0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:20.919
<v Speaker 2>a best of three. You know, you'd get to see

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:25.439
<v Speaker 2>a lot of golf from your favorite player. You'd get it, would,

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, playing a best of three instead of best

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 2>of one. Obviously you get the better player should rise

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:34.320
<v Speaker 2>to the top in that situation. I think you generate

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 2>interest in the playoffs. I don't know if there's I mean,

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you'd lose an event because you could do it over.

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could maybe do the finals separately if

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 2>you wanted the fourth weekend. But I think it would

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.440
<v Speaker 2>be really cool and I would be much more inclined

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>to watch that than I would the current format.

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like the idea of match play a lot. Also,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it, Yeah, it would cool. Like you get

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in the final thirty or thirty two guys, Like

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you know you're in the final thirty now, Like it's

0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of boring to watch a stroke play event. And

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of my pet peeves is also is

0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>like when people include, like, oh, you finished t twentieth

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>at the Tour Championship, It's like, well, there's thirty guys.

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.399
<v Speaker 3>In the field, right, you can't finish worse than that

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:22.799
<v Speaker 3>thirty nail.

0:52:23.200 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's like, from a perspective, I like the idea

0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:32.719
<v Speaker 1>of match play in some some sort of format.

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.239
<v Speaker 3>Nine hole matches would be really cool too.

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 2>It would be crazy, I mean, but you'd risk getting

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.719
<v Speaker 2>some crazy results or even doing it. I mean, if

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to get real crazy kind of a six

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>hole thing like.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 3>The the golf sixes, Yeah.

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 2>The golf sixes like the Euros are doing.

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 3>That'd be cool.

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like there should be some more alternative formats

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>in the Fall, like talking about like ways to Spye,

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like there should be some crazy like the stroke play

0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.960
<v Speaker 1>all year round, Like stroke play is the best because

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like it identifies the best players you know, like you,

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'd like to see some different formats in that

0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Fall series and you know, get some excitement. I mean,

0:53:17.040 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be it's gonna be so dead come twenty nineteen.

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think I one hundred percent agree and

0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.960
<v Speaker 2>think about it, like, you know, I think most people

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:33.640
<v Speaker 2>would agree with us. They'd like to see different variations

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.560
<v Speaker 2>of golf. I mean, I don't know, the sixers is

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazy, but you know, you get more a

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 2>little more stable for a little more match play. And

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 2>the people we talk to and we are like, you know,

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 2>the most avid golf fans, So exactly who is against this?

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:48.760
<v Speaker 2>You know? That's what I want to know. Who's against

0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 2>doing these different things and you know, try and do things.

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm all for it.

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's do it, yeah, dude.

0:53:56.320 --> 0:53:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And then like the other thing is adding more opposite

0:53:58.880 --> 0:54:02.120
<v Speaker 1>field events for those bottom guys, you know, like if

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 1>you don't qualify for the top sixty event, that's some

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>crazy format. Like you know what play you get to

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 1>play in the the Barber Cell Championship somewhere else. It's

0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>like the you know, the the Shick Championship in somewhere somewhere.

0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just was pulling another shaving product out.

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Of my my ass.

0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 3>All right?

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Does Neil Smith wants to know Hendrick Stenson Hall of

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>Fame worthy career. He got a major of players a

0:54:36.480 --> 0:54:41.800
<v Speaker 1>WGC two playoff wins, nineteen worldwide wins, also a FEDEPX

0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Cup win.

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 2>So I put Louis on the fringe last time of

0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Fame spot, and I think Henrick's career

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 2>is better. So I'm gonna have to say, yes, he's

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer. I mean, you know, if you

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 2>count the players, is a major, you know, major, half,

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.680
<v Speaker 2>a major whatever, he basically has a Major and a

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 2>half and a WGC and a FedEx Cup, So there's

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 2>no I mean it's almost in pop plus it's he's

0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 2>had really good longevity. I mean think about he he literally,

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:18.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, it went broke because you know, he got

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>caught up in that Stanford Ponzi scheme and then rebuilt

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 2>his entire net worth through winning golf tournaments. Again. I mean,

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 2>that's that's how long his career spanned. So one hundred

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:30.680
<v Speaker 2>percent Hall of Fame.

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he's His career probably if you match

0:55:36.280 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 3>it up to Jim Furick, looks like really similar, So

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:41.960
<v Speaker 3>you got you gotta be he's gotta be a Hall

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of Famer.

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree. All right, here's our first big Cat question

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.319
<v Speaker 2>with the hacked picks of Big Cat surfacing online. Will

0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>seventeen at the redesigned Jackson Park hole be named renamed

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the Tiger's Tale.

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard much about the the Jackson Park project lately.

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I think that they hit a roadblock. But I would

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 3>I would hope, I hope, you know.

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Tiger in his older age has been

0:56:17.360 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>able to embrace humor and like the humanism of life,

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>whether it be like the mac Daddy Santa, and I

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>think he should, he should take this in stride and

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and and be proud of.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Be proud. What are you trying to say?

0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, and and I think you know,

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:44.160
<v Speaker 3>it'll make him more uh more approachable by the common fan.

0:56:45.000 --> 0:56:46.560
<v Speaker 2>That question, by the way, it was from our friend,

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:50.440
<v Speaker 2>our good friend, David Horlander, which so this reminds me

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>of a story. I was at the eighth grade dance

0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:57.240
<v Speaker 2>and I was standing in the corner like most people

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 2>do in eighth grade dances, and I'm talking to a

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>girl that I was friends with her dad, and the

0:57:03.239 --> 0:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>movie Boogie Nights had just come out, and we're kind

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:07.279
<v Speaker 2>of talking. You know, I don't even know what we

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:09.439
<v Speaker 2>were talking about, probably the bulls or something at the time,

0:57:10.000 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and uh, I'm like, I just so I'm trying to

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 2>act like a grown up. I look at him and

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 2>I said, Hey, have you seen Boogie Nights? He goes, yeah,

0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:19.919
<v Speaker 2>have you? And I'm like, oh, yeah, I've seen Boogie Nights.

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:22.040
<v Speaker 2>He goes, what'd you think at the end. I'm like, ah,

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was fine. He goes, it's not that big,

0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like oh, and he starts laughing and I

0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:29.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of smile. And it literally took me four hours

0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>to get the joke. So I'm gonna go with that,

0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 2>with the whole tiger situation. Eh, it's whatever.

0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nobody, nobody's gonna know what it is, right, Steve Messner.

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 3>He he asked a great question about ideal breakfasts a

0:57:48.880 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago. Now he wants to know what

0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:52.880
<v Speaker 3>we're eating during the round.

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go mine's pretty simple. I really eat a

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>lot of like trail mix. I mean to be honest,

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I I wherever you know, you go to Walgreens or

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>CBS and pick up one of those big bags. And

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know why. I probably read it in

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.280
<v Speaker 2>like a nineteen ninety nine Golf digest with Duvall on

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 2>the cover that it said you know, eat trail mixed

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:18.840
<v Speaker 2>during your round, but that's what I do. It's pretty

0:58:18.880 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 2>much all you eat.

0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm a I'm a big fan of cliff bars. But then,

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:25.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, I realized later this year that a cliff

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 3>bar isn't healthy. It's like actually like a candy bar.

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Somebody informed me, and that's probably why they're so good.

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, it's just a miss missed. They're misleading customers,

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I think.

0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh, I don't know. Beef Jerky seems like a popular one.

0:58:42.960 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>One of my buddies who's a complete health nut, and

0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, he grills up chicken breasts and he'll just

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 1>open his bag up and he's got chicken breasts.

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:55.440
<v Speaker 3>In it, which is seems unhealthy.

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's gonna catch up to him one

0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:02.240
<v Speaker 1>time with like like equal eye or food. Salmonilla, Yeah, salmonilla,

0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it can't be good to have in your golf

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:06.439
<v Speaker 1>bag for eight hours at a time.

0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Jesus, if I saw somebody pull out some pre made

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:13.880
<v Speaker 2>chicken breast during the round, i'd probably I did not

0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:15.800
<v Speaker 2>speak to that in the rest of the round.

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Funny story is we we played once and he had

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:23.240
<v Speaker 1>him and then we went to Chipotle after and he

0:59:23.400 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 1>ordered a burrito bowl without chicken, and then put his

0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:30.600
<v Speaker 1>extra chicken breast in the burrito bowl.

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Now I know who this is. You're welcome for not

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 2>sharing your name. Buddy.

0:59:38.360 --> 0:59:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, he asked the question greater than under an alias.

0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I think it was about the Walker Cup.

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Though I didn't write it down. Actually it wasn't good enough.

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is another food question. We people

0:59:52.080 --> 0:59:54.240
<v Speaker 2>had a lot of follow up coffee questions and now

0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 2>we got ideal round food. We may have to have

0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:00.800
<v Speaker 2>a guess nutritionist on at some point we should I

1:00:01.040 --> 1:00:02.800
<v Speaker 2>answer hard hitting questions.

1:00:03.000 --> 1:00:05.120
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people actually asked us to

1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:09.840
<v Speaker 1>do some more coffee talk, and unfortunately we haven't done

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:10.600
<v Speaker 1>any research.

1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 3>We'll maybe get on it for the next edition.

1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we need some you know, is three coffees too many?

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Is eighteen course lights too many during a round? We

1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:23.280
<v Speaker 2>need some really good, good answers to the nutritionists.

1:00:23.360 --> 1:00:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, Uh, let's do.

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, this is a good question. I forgot to

1:00:31.920 --> 1:00:35.000
<v Speaker 1>write down who asked it. My friend looked up from

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>the range at Liberty National and saw himself alone there

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:38.720
<v Speaker 1>with Jordan Speed.

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 3>What do you do in a situation.

1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Like this, Oh man, I guess you just walk up

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:52.200
<v Speaker 2>and say, hey, you know, nice to get. I assume

1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:56.080
<v Speaker 2>that it's his home club, so you know, I would say,

1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, you know, how's it going? Blah blah blah,

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I hope you like this week? Can you know? Do

1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:04.360
<v Speaker 2>all that. I wouldn't ask for an autograph or anything

1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 2>like that, but I would definitely I think it would

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:06.800
<v Speaker 2>be cool to say, hi.

1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, I had this thing.

1:01:10.080 --> 1:01:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the cooler thing to do, Like when you

1:01:14.000 --> 1:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>think about autographs is like, Okay, you get something autographed

1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and then it's there and like it's gone, like you know,

1:01:21.680 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't really care about it as an adult.

1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Really no offense to anybody that does care.

1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But like, I think the cooler thing is just simply knowing, Hey,

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.439
<v Speaker 1>I could have gotten an autograph now, but I didn't

1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:35.360
<v Speaker 1>want to bother them.

1:01:35.760 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to be that guy. I would just

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't.

1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I may might not even say anything, you know, maybe

1:01:42.520 --> 1:01:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just a good like a hey, good luck in a

1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:48.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks here, hope you enjoy it.

1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.720
<v Speaker 3>But like I would just treat him like a normal guy.

1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:53.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what everybody wants.

1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Right, right, yeah, I hope you like the course, enjoy yourself,

1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, let me know if you need anything.

1:01:58.760 --> 1:01:59.960
<v Speaker 2>You could throw one of those in there too.

1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Let's see that.

1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Was Scott do Dick. I missed like the whole back

1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:18.280
<v Speaker 1>half of this question. Oh Derek from Matt too? Another

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<v Speaker 1>repeat A question asker should the champion of the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>Midam get an exemption into the Masters?

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<v Speaker 3>He's asking for a friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Derek, I hope you're playing well at the Canadian

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<v Speaker 2>Midam this week and if you win, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to change my answer on this to yes, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say no because I think that, unfortunately for the

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian Midam, there are a lot stronger fields where guys

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<v Speaker 2>are probably more deservingly deserving of a Master's invitation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand how an American and can go up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's only a couple in the field. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, isn't there a better tournament to play in America?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know you get the reason. So there's usually

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more. This year, it's literally in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of nowhere. I think it's like an hour from moose

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<v Speaker 2>Jar or so, you know, one of those moose Head

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<v Speaker 2>one of those funny sounding Canadian towns, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you fly somewhere and then it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>three hour drive. It's literally hard to get there. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot less guys than usual went, but

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think normally there are quite a few,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Americans, and you get the exemption into the

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<v Speaker 2>Canadian Open, So it's kind of cool. I mean I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to play it.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, do you have to qualify? Like how do you

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<v Speaker 3>get into that? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just resume another event that would actually

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<v Speaker 1>be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I have to look at and see where

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<v Speaker 3>they're playing. Let's see, Will Knights, this is for you,

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle as a past I.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty champ, aight am champ. It's a local amateur tournament

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>That should get an invite to the Masters, that should

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<v Speaker 2>what percentage of the time do you go for it?

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<v Speaker 3>On number five at Sanctuary?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it the most architecturally sound hole in America?

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks? Will, So, I will so those of you that

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<v Speaker 2>probably many most of you don't know the fifth hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It is literally the worst hole I think I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>played in my entire life. It's like a five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty yard par five, and just to put it

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<v Speaker 2>in a perspective, I'm almost certain it was like three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. There's a Skins game. You know, there's out

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<v Speaker 2>in the field. It's pretty good. I mean, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>the good Illinois amateurs and I want to skin on

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<v Speaker 2>the hole with a birdy four. That's how bad of

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<v Speaker 2>a hole it is. There's a there's a twenty foot

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<v Speaker 2>not yard twenty foot window where you have to lay

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<v Speaker 2>up to with like a nine iron, or you're you

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<v Speaker 2>have to hit a rope hooked sand wedge or you

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<v Speaker 2>punch shot. It's just, I mean, it's not describable how

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<v Speaker 2>bad the hole is. I actually did try to hit

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<v Speaker 2>a rope hook three wood once on the green and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I made eight because I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to draw the ball and it was a disaster. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one time. Yeah, but that.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually is a good future post.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I will I'll write something about the worst golf

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<v Speaker 1>alls in America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would. I would love to love to read that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an early contender for number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Worst two holes before that is not much better. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's another story.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Overrated underage, Sure, let's get after it driving irons.

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<v Speaker 2>Driving irons for good ams and average joes. Ch Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think? Over right under it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? I'm all in on driving irons.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I have the titleist one that MTMB or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. And I used to hit a hybrid

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<v Speaker 1>and the hybrid would go left like it. I never

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<v Speaker 1>liked the way hybrid is set up. They always seem

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<v Speaker 1>to look close to me, and i'd when I missed it,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd hook it. And since I've picked up this iron,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever hit it left.

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<v Speaker 3>And my life quest is never hit the ball left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that. I I can't stand hybrids.

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<v Speaker 2>I finally got one that I is decent, but before

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<v Speaker 2>that I was always using irons. I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a very long player by any means, but I would

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<v Speaker 2>much rather have a two iron in my bag than

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a hybrid that went too forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Trouble because they do go left. You know you can

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<v Speaker 2>miss them both ways, where as you know with a

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<v Speaker 2>long iron, you know your your misses are much more controllable.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am I'm also all in on driving irons.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for the average Joe. It depends on who

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<v Speaker 3>you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to get any advice here, but like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>hit the ball like high and far but just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of suck at other things, I would say driving irons

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<v Speaker 1>are for you. But if you have trouble hitting the

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<v Speaker 1>getting the ball in the air like and that's an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>I would use a hybrid because it's easier to hit high.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you, all right, Zoija, Fairways Porter Golf, Overrated, underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>You know I've played.

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<v Speaker 1>I played once on a dormant and Zoija and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like the best thing ever. It was like the

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<v Speaker 1>ball was on a tee all the time. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna go with underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go with overrated only because I obviously grew

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<v Speaker 2>up on bent and I'm more used to that. But honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't spend too much time worrying about it. I

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<v Speaker 2>probably should, you know, knowing how the ball reacts, but

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<v Speaker 2>unfortunately I don't. So it's not my pre preferred grasp,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is what it is, all right. This one's

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<v Speaker 2>for you too. Stream song Overrated, Underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's uh, it's underrated. Actually, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>gets ah, it gets a it's a little underrated. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Red Course is really really good there. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Blue Course is pretty good and overall it's

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing is it's like everybody compares it to

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned but like stream songs, at least like somewhat close

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<v Speaker 1>to reality, you know, and so that that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>have something to do with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like their their their hotel. It looks like

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<v Speaker 3>a an office building in oak Park, Illinois or Oakbrook.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's underrated in general.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I haven't played yet, so yeah, I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>your word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, winning the FedEx Cup overrated, underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a tricky one because you get a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of money, which is awesome, but I would I guess

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<v Speaker 2>excluding the money, I would say overrated because there's no

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<v Speaker 2>way I could name the last five FedEx Cup winners,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could probably name the last five major winners

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<v Speaker 2>in each major, so I would say underrated. Excuse me, overrated?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say, Actually, I'm gonna go with underrated

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the money. Okay, And it's actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool when you think about it, like it it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have like all of the best players.

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<v Speaker 3>Because some people don't play in it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like like a major, you're the best of one week,

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<v Speaker 1>like the FedEx Cup, you kind of have to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best of like four weeks plus a year.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I need to pay. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I think whether it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>today or the last one. I get so into football,

1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I forget to follow the last couple of tournaments. But

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, does it really matter those four weeks how

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<v Speaker 2>you play? I mean, I know you can play okay,

1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like you can play okay the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple pretty good, the third, and then you win

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<v Speaker 2>the Tour Championship. You win the fed X Cup, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to play like I think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>play pretty well, Like there's anybody could win, but it

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<v Speaker 1>requires like the guy that's in like the first, like anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>In the fish like seventh or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I think it's if you're in the top

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<v Speaker 1>five heading into the Tour Championship, if you win, you win.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I think it's I actually think it's underrated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what the they just I feel like what

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<v Speaker 3>happens is people get.

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<v Speaker 1>So turned off about the FedEx Cup because they show

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<v Speaker 1>those damn standings like eighty five fucking times a telecast,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the second week of the year, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at We're in Las Vegas for the Shriners, and

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<v Speaker 1>here's your FedEx Cup update.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't that's the last thing I want

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<v Speaker 3>to think about in the middle of October.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, what do you think about fiddling with

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<v Speaker 1>a putter? Choice to improve putting as a pro from

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Anderson.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's two schools of thought on this. One is

1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.800
<v Speaker 2>that if you're practicing something you're not gonna use or

1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:53.920
<v Speaker 2>don't intend to use, you're just wasting your time. If

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're putting with a putter that you

1:11:56.439 --> 1:11:58.960
<v Speaker 2>don't use, you literally be better off, you know, going

1:11:59.000 --> 1:12:01.639
<v Speaker 2>for a bike ride or something. And the other the other,

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<v Speaker 2>the other school of thought is that which I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of agree with. An old golf teacher told me this,

1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:10.960
<v Speaker 2>that you immediately get ten percent better when you get

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<v Speaker 2>a new club. Maybe just for a week or two,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does improve. And I feel like putting, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you know you're comfortable with the putter to

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<v Speaker 2>a certain extent, I'm fine with it. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you know that's obviously you know, ask because Rory and

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<v Speaker 2>his whatever it was. You know, I forgot what you

1:12:29.560 --> 1:12:31.880
<v Speaker 2>mentioned nine putters he's used this year or something. But

1:12:33.680 --> 1:12:35.479
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. You know, he'll find one and

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<v Speaker 2>he'll get hot with it and maybe maybe he'll just

1:12:37.400 --> 1:12:39.519
<v Speaker 2>play his whole career like that where he you know,

1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:41.080
<v Speaker 2>keeps switching. I don't have a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's not a candidate for like having a signature

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<v Speaker 1>putter for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't never switch equipment, and I never try new equipment,

1:12:52.920 --> 1:12:56.120
<v Speaker 1>so I'm like the worst person when it comes to equipment.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the driving iron is the most recent.

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<v Speaker 3>Change in my back.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I changed butters recently too, but that was after

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<v Speaker 1>like three years of using the same one.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right. Andy's titles for Frida Egg Newsletter way underrated.

1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Speeed's third leg was epic. That's from Tom and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also gonna say underrated. I'm a huge fan of the headlines.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had some real creative ones, which I'd like to know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's what's one you didn't use that you wish you did,

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<v Speaker 2>or some good ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember one week, I'd have to go back

1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and look through them. One week, there was some you know,

1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:43.200
<v Speaker 1>there was I was trying to decide between two of them,

1:13:43.280 --> 1:13:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and I thought both of them were like incredibly good.

1:13:47.680 --> 1:13:50.559
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I picked one of them and everybody

1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:53.960
<v Speaker 1>loved it. You know, I think my favorite, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the speaces third leg happened. I was it was at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of me watching all of the first two

1:14:02.520 --> 1:14:05.760
<v Speaker 1>rounds of the uh the Open Championship.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd slept like.

1:14:07.160 --> 1:14:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Three hours in the last three days, and I was

1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:14.519
<v Speaker 1>sitting at LaGuardia and my flight was delayed for like

1:14:15.400 --> 1:14:18.640
<v Speaker 1>three hours and then it ended up getting canceled. But

1:14:19.000 --> 1:14:23.639
<v Speaker 1>like during the delay, I was like semi delirious, having

1:14:23.640 --> 1:14:26.120
<v Speaker 1>a couple of beers, and I just went with that

1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know, anybody that doesn't understand this

1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:31.479
<v Speaker 1>will just be like, oh yeah, it's third leg of

1:14:31.479 --> 1:14:34.800
<v Speaker 1>his major. And anybody that does understand this will be like,

1:14:35.400 --> 1:14:36.679
<v Speaker 1>we'll just laugh out loud.

1:14:36.960 --> 1:14:38.720
<v Speaker 3>So that's how I try and do a lot of them.

1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Is if the people that, you know, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>other favorites was Hot Charle, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, charl I don't remember that one. That is a

1:14:48.840 --> 1:14:49.519
<v Speaker 2>real good one.

1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's always one of my favorites because you know,

1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:54.479
<v Speaker 1>everybody's like, Oh, he's just a he's hot.

1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:57.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're gonna need a Sanchez guy to win.

1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:04.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't think there are are any Sanchezes, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The the newsletter headline actually like takes me the longest

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<v Speaker 1>of anything to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Like sometimes it will take me four hours to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what I'm gonna go with. And when you see

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<v Speaker 1>really bad ones, like it's just because I couldn't think

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<v Speaker 1>of one or was really tired.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't blame you. It's a pretty big part. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like that's like right when I get my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>look at my emails in the morning, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder what it's going to be, and then I see

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<v Speaker 2>hot charl Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked Redman's method the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, gonna give it to you. It's probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>one of all time. I don't know, though, it's Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about vertical scorecards?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with it. I think it it's a cool,

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<v Speaker 2>little different thing. I Uh, I think it's easier on

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<v Speaker 2>a horizontal scorecard to keep track of, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing a Scotch game or points or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 2>find it's somewhat easier, just because the way the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>work and how we've learned to read. But I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind it. It's different. It's usually I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's rare to see a vertical scorecard in a bad

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<v Speaker 2>golf course, right, so I think I associate it with

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty nice experience, So I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate the big horizontal scorecards.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the giant ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that like you like can't walk with like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be impossible to use walking. I think like

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<v Speaker 1>smaller better to a certain extent, you know, because you

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<v Speaker 1>do need space for bets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, smaller the better. Yeah, right, I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>a pamphlet anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we got? No, I mean that was it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good. We got a questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we got a couple of the mm hmmm. And

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<v Speaker 3>then and that done answering questions.

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<v Speaker 2>You've had enough, Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea, all right, I'll talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll do We'll see you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace later