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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. He is Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolly,

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Speaker 2: and it is time for the Fantasy football focus here

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Speaker 2: on the Drive and Matt, I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 2: a couple different strategies to drafting, and the first one

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Speaker 2: is this. If your league doesn't require you to draft,

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Speaker 2: let's say you have you have to play a kicker

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Speaker 2: in a defense. Unless your league requires you to draft

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Speaker 2: a kicker in a defense, I think you can get

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Speaker 2: by without drafting one or the other like that. So

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Speaker 2: here's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 3: So start, nobody.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying you start. I got seventeen days

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Speaker 2: to make up my decision about something. Let's say I'm

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Speaker 2: drafting this weekend.

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Speaker 4: An extra running back or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what if I have an injury or something, or

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Speaker 2: what if something changes? What if Jonathan Taylor gets traded? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in that time between when you want the Colts back up? Right,

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Speaker 2: didn't get picked?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Somebody like you picked the Colts back up and he's, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: I want to keep this guy now.

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Speaker 3: Right right, that's your seventeenth round pick or something.

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Speaker 4: Is the Colts back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, never would he got drafted otherwise.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a loophole.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, if you're going to take a

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Speaker 3: kicker in defense, and I guess two rounds anyway I

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Speaker 3: can pick.

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Speaker 2: Up I can pick up my kicker or my defense

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Speaker 2: the week or the day before after the games. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I could just wait on that. It's like, unless I'm

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Speaker 2: drafting Justin Tucker a kicker.

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Speaker 3: They're not much different. There's not a lot of difference there.

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Speaker 3: And there's five to eight defenses you'd like to hang

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Speaker 3: on to and see at least what they are.

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Speaker 4: But if you're they're already gone anyway.

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Speaker 2: But I you know, I stream defenses a lot, and

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Speaker 2: if I'm going to stream defenses, I don't need to

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Speaker 2: take one in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I guess you could also do that and take a

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Speaker 3: step further with a backup tight end, a backup quarterback. Correct,

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, you're not going to start.

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Speaker 2: Load up on your yeah, right? If I Yeah, if

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Speaker 2: I got Travis Kelcey, I don't need to draft a

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Speaker 2: second tight end until or pick one. I pick one

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Speaker 2: up that's going to play the week that he's off.

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Speaker 3: And if he gets hurt, you're in trouble either way,

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Speaker 3: and you'll make up Gerald Everett who you would have

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Speaker 3: drafted anyways, Yeah, right, right right, Cole Comhette or somebody

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Speaker 3: like that, right right, And just give me all the

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Speaker 3: receivers and backs I can and they get shaken out

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Speaker 3: with last cuts, trades, things like that. You might get a.

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Speaker 2: Gem, you might get a gem. You might get somebody,

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Speaker 2: especially like at a running back position. Let's say last.

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Speaker 3: Year's Jalen Warren, right then nobody in the world knows, but.

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Speaker 2: I can hang on to him for an extra week

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Speaker 2: because I didn't draft I didn't draft a backup tight

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Speaker 2: end or I didn't draft a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If I've got Travis, I've got my homes. He's going

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Speaker 2: to start for me every week.

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Speaker 3: And even if it's Turbert or I mean right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: probably whoever you drafted, unless it's the tenth quarterback off

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Speaker 3: the board is going to have to really fall in.

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Speaker 2: His face, especially if if you're in a single quarterback league,

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Speaker 2: which most are, I mean, how may are gonna get drafted?

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Speaker 2: At most it's going to be twenty four probably there

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Speaker 2: might you might have one or two guys in your

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Speaker 2: league at draft three quarterbacks. Those are the idiots out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's if they're going to go Rogers to

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Speaker 3: h Jones and Hope one hits, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But if you don't have to draft those spots, load

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Speaker 2: up on running backs and wide receivers, you know, or

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Speaker 2: if you have a let's say you draft Pits, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll keep.

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Speaker 2: Drafting running backs and wide that's what that allows you

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Speaker 3: And at quarterback and tight end, unlike kicker and defense,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to make a move till week two, three, four, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, Like you know, you can still do euro strategy,

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Speaker 3: but at some point you gotta cut two guys to

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Speaker 3: get starters where you don't have to deal with quarterback

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have that guy on my roster and then

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Speaker 2: make the decision two weeks from now.

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Speaker 3: Because everybody knows how the waiver wire works. One running

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Speaker 3: back is going to get hurt in Week one and

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Speaker 3: the whole world's gonna spend a bazillion.

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Speaker 2: Dollars, or somebody's gonna pull a hamstring in practice, or

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Speaker 2: something's gonna happen, and all of a sudden, you're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: I've got his backup right here.

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Speaker 3: Thinking of a team like the Chargers, their backups are

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Speaker 3: all junk. But if Eckler gets.

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Speaker 2: Hurt, you're not junk anymore, not.

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Speaker 3: Junk anymore because they're running backs on a good offense

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Speaker 3: and you're sitting there with Kelly that wouldn't have got

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Speaker 3: drafted anyway, as opposed to having.

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Speaker 2: Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. No, that's not bad. I mean,

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Speaker 3: some people the league I'm in charges real dollars for

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Speaker 3: every transaction, and maybe you don't want to do it

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Speaker 3: that we're oute, but most don't.

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Speaker 2: But if I again, if I'm gonna stream defenses and

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Speaker 2: there's probably only maybe six defenses that I'm gonna play

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Speaker 2: no matter what, okay, I'll you know, for example, like

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Speaker 2: New England this year opens against the Eagles. Well, New

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Speaker 2: England's defense is traditionally one of the strong defenses in

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Speaker 2: the league. A good a good fantasy. They score touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: They have the.

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Speaker 3: Hardest schedule, league too. I mean, bills are no fun.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to draft them. And then oh

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Speaker 2: I got to play these guys in Week one against

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. No, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then you're doing the opposite. You're cutting a

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Speaker 3: running back to pick up a D but you're like,

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Speaker 3: you want to, but you don't want to cut the

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Speaker 3: Patriots dr because.

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Speaker 2: I drafted him in the fourteenth round.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, interesting, Okay, nice you're saying.

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Speaker 2: So that's one thing. Zero running back or Hero running back.

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Speaker 3: He's never done it. I've never have either. Take some stones,

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Speaker 3: it does, and Hero makes more sense than zero. But

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Speaker 3: if people don't know the difference zero is you really start.

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Speaker 3: You basically get all your starters before your running backs.

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Speaker 4: Which and you're loaded there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're the whole logic is then you draft

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Speaker 3: a ton of Jalen Warrens and just wait for injuries

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Speaker 2: Week six, you might be sitting there at one in five, going, boy,

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Speaker 2: I wish I had a running back. I could start

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Speaker 2: right now, but you.

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Speaker 3: Might be starting justin Jefferson, Devonte Smith and Andrews and Lamar.

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Speaker 2: I mean your other spots are spots better win and

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Speaker 2: win big though. Yeah, I mean that's it's.

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Speaker 3: You can get ones and twos from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're basically punting on the position for a few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Anyways. Yeah, the beginning the season could be rough, the

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Speaker 3: end of the season could be strong. So that zero

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Speaker 3: hero is take one the first second round, then do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: give me one that I'm.

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Speaker 2: And then draft five more later and hope one of

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Speaker 4: Just keeps going.

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Speaker 3: Right. I could be convinced to try that. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: problem is your hero gets hurt, then you're you don't

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Speaker 2: If you if you go hero, you better handcuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and not everyone has a great handcuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean. But like in any

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Speaker 3: of these approaches, the aj Dillons are really attractive because

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Speaker 3: at least in week one he's gonna get he's got

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Speaker 4: He's something for.

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Speaker 3: Me, and if the good thing happens not the Aaron

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Speaker 3: Jones or Packer fans, then he's all of a sudden.

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Speaker 4: Really were something.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking here on the thirty third team and

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Speaker 2: Corbyn Young has a zero running back targets ten running

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Speaker 2: backs to draft and stash.

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Speaker 4: Like Warren should be on that list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe he is. So here here's his

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Speaker 2: zero running back targets, DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a good one or not.

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Speaker 2: Because going is RB twenty six right now, so he's

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Speaker 2: just outside that RB range.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, because I think he's the eagle starter, but

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Speaker 2: And if he were, it's a crowded backfield.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Gainwell has a lot of support. Yeah, Penny

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Speaker 2: And they're now one of the teams that are talking

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Speaker 2: that people are targeting. Well, they could trade for Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Taylor and then all of a sudden, I would almost

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Speaker 2: think that if they they can't have Taylor and Swift

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Speaker 3: I would be so the fact that they're the same

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Speaker 3: draft classes made me so happy o the days.

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Speaker 2: But I would think, like one of those backs would.

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Speaker 3: Dynasty rookie drafts. That was a great.

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Speaker 2: One of those backs would have to go back to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: We talked about that on the podcast today too.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about all the different landing spots and

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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of it, but my co host was like,

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Speaker 3: the Colts can't trot out what they have, No, you know,

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Speaker 3: like I mean, like if at least give me Mostert

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Speaker 2: It's not that.

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Speaker 3: No, he's a terrible example. But give me something like

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Speaker 3: I threw out the commanders. Give me Brian Washington a

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Speaker 3: third Robinson Robinson, Right, yeah, they're Washington wrote, you know whatever?

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, play.

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Speaker 3: Somebody well, and that'd be great for Robinson to draft

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Speaker 2: He mentions Antonio Gibson as a.

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Speaker 4: He's a target for mine anyway.

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Speaker 2: You love Antonio Gibson.

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Speaker 3: I like him because mckissick's gone.

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Speaker 2: That's all well and good.

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Speaker 3: He was in my doghouse forever, but now there's a

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Speaker 3: much clearer path to receptions. I think he's an overrated

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Speaker 3: football player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Number three on this list is Jayalen Warren good one,

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Speaker 2: and he's he's under this misconception, however, that somehow warrens

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Speaker 2: those volume based Harris had at thirty nine blah blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Final takeaways. We lean into a scenario

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Speaker 2: where Harris misses time or loses volume into twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: leading to Warren's ascension. Harris isn't missing time unless his

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Speaker 3: Anyone can get hurt, of course. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's losing volume. Well points out exception that is

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Speaker 3: that some people think Warren's going to start eating into.

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Speaker 2: Not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Not different than it has been.

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty Connor had fifty three percent of the

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Speaker 4: Still pretty sizable.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, Harris had seventy eight percent of the

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Speaker 3: Now there is one note. During those three years, the

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two, this being last season with Jalen Warren,

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Speaker 2: James Connor was doing than it was with what he

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Speaker 2: did as a rookie. He's not that there was going

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not as clean as first down nausey,

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Speaker 2: Down one right, but it's pretty dark close.

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Speaker 3: In the fact that it was two thirds of the snaps.

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Speaker 3: And I do think McFarland will get something.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have anything last year. Yeah, he'll get something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The one game that McFarland played was a game that

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Speaker 4: But we've seen this in practice too.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's none like if if if McFarland's active

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Speaker 2: then he has to also be active. Is he going

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Speaker 2: to be active if he's just a kick returner? No?

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Speaker 2: Right in the third in the third back. That's not

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Speaker 4: I could even return kicks in today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Or I'd put Calvin Austin back there and just

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Speaker 2: tell him, hey, what you want take a knee? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, don't do anything crazy. He just take a knee.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it at the twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Or if Connor makes the team, I bet he can

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Speaker 2: Or yeah right, uh, Tyler Algae are good.

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Speaker 3: One is a good one, Yeah, real good one. Run

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Speaker 2: They're going to run the ball. He probably still gets

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say higher, Okay, yeah, well for Robinson Robinson.

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Speaker 3: I think Robinson will end up with a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's going to get like a

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Speaker 2: Maybe not in the past. He's going to do more

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Speaker 2: in the past. Like he may get it might be eight.

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Speaker 2: He might average eighteen carries per game, but he might

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Speaker 2: average twenty three touches per game, like five catches a game.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I might even go a little higher on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's where Aljiaeer comes into play. He's going

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Speaker 4: And ritteral run a little bit and you know, no,

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Speaker 4: but he's a good one.

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Speaker 2: He's a good one. J Spears great one. He looks

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Speaker 4: He's missing a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as was so Yeah, I mean guys can. Guys

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Speaker 2: can play this game. That's different about as was Craig

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Speaker 3: Spears. My only question with him compared to a couple

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Speaker 2: He going to be the guy?

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Speaker 4: He'd be the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's not a banger, but he's He would

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Speaker 3: get a start him in fantasy that next week for sure.

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Speaker 2: Without a doubt. Yeah, he would be the back to own.

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Speaker 3: I would think, no question, no question. I'm even sure

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashawn Johnson probably, but Foreman's the Foreman's still there.

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Speaker 2: He's a thing.

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Speaker 3: Preseason indicates Johnson's the two. Yeah, and the quarterback eats

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Speaker 2: Raheem Moster and Jeff Wilson with the Dolphins. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to touch that Dolphins at back. I think it's

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Speaker 2: always the same. I mean, if they get Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 2: that's totally different. But with the guys they have, I

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Speaker 3: Any of them.

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Gamewell with the Eagles. Two Eagles running, same conversation.

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Speaker 2: Gamewell is a great guy. How you opened the show like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to draft the kicker. I'll draft Gamewell.

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Speaker 2: See what happens. Yeah, they may name him the starter

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Speaker 2: in week one. That's and that's the other thing that

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Speaker 2: can happen. Cut because he doesn't play special team. That's

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Speaker 2: the and then if he does, you know, if he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be some weird stuff that happens all

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Speaker 2: Bam Knights that guy, Like what if Bam Night gets

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Speaker 2: cut by the Jets and then he's yeah, a perfect team.

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Speaker 2: I just I was just gonna say he ends up

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Speaker 2: in with the Chargers. Now all of a sudden, he's

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Speaker 2: got value.

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Speaker 3: He's got value.

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Speaker 4: He definitely went up in value without question.

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Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard with the Panther perfect one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's great, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's gonna get volume if something happens.

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Speaker 3: To the starter, Yes, a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's everybody that he put on. Any other

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Speaker 3: The Bills are a no. The Jets are a no

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Speaker 3: because they don't those guys are all you know, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to touch Miami.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Zeke I can't believe. I'm kind of

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Speaker 2: going I'm kind of surprised none of the Saints backup

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Speaker 4: Maybe because there's three and Kamara.

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Speaker 2: Well he's got three backs from other teams.

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Speaker 3: And they did it with the Eagles. If we knew

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Speaker 3: who Joe Mixon's backup is, like, they could be a team.

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Speaker 4: That picked somebody up.

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Speaker 3: They could be Yeah, that could be a really good

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Speaker 3: landing spot for someone that got like if you ever

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Speaker 3: Shaw Penny on that team, Oh yeah, it might be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Like so that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the Browns are the same way, like Ford's hurt.

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Speaker 2: What about Detroit Zamier Gibbs going to be their primary

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Speaker 2: ball carrier? I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Montgomery, Montgomery's mich will be a guy and maybe he's

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Speaker 3: I doubt it, though A couple of people are really

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Speaker 3: lust like in the Montgomery's good in the fantasy community thingk.

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Speaker 3: Montgomery's one of the most underrated guys in the whole

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Speaker 3: in fantasy right now. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get to Jamal Williams four hundred touchdown move.

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Speaker 2: No, but he's going to be his role he might get.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna get one hundred and fifty to two hundred carries.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to take any short yard of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Is gonna take any sort yard of stuff. Montgomery can catch.

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Speaker 2: The ball like, he'll be there.

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Speaker 4: I think he's too good for this conversation.

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Speaker 2: More more carries this season Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: Or Montgomery Montgomery, Yeah, more touches is a different conversation.

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Speaker 2: Different conversation. Yeah, but it's not like he can't catch

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Speaker 2: say he gets one hundred and eighty carries and catches

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Speaker 2: thirty passes, but.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking him in like the seventh or eighth round. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: like I want him.

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Speaker 2: Well if I'm zero running back, Yeah, he's in that

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Speaker 2: conversation because I've already filled my starting roster out. How

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Speaker 2: is he not in this conversation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Bigsby's a great one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he may even get the early down work,

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Speaker 3: like he might be too good for this too. Is

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Speaker 3: I know, no one knows who Evan Hull is, but

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Speaker 3: he might be the.

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Speaker 2: Colts back up. Yeah. So even if Taylor, I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's going. I think I think he's still Mac.

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Speaker 2: It might be not Mac, you know Moss, Yeah, Moss.

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Speaker 3: Probably, but either one probably isn't getting drafted now, and

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Speaker 3: it might not even need a trade.

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Speaker 2: Moss is like at a out of sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they traded four months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they went and got him. It's a broken forearm

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Speaker 2: that will heal, That will heal, Yeah, and he'll be

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Speaker 2: the number two.

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Speaker 3: Ty Chandler.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: Who's the back of a Minnesota er? Oh that's it? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's yeah.

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Speaker 3: Ty Chandler, I think is a real good one. Kind

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Speaker 3: of like a Jerome Ford like people that aren't necessarily good,

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Speaker 3: but one injury away from everybody flooding the waiver.

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Speaker 2: Wire for right, they're going to be all over the

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know that I want James Connor's backup

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Speaker 3: or White in Tampa's back up because the teams are

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Speaker 3: just too bad. Yeah, like that, you have to be

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Speaker 3: a pretty good player for even to be considered for that.

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Speaker 2: Do you take a chance on a guy like a

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Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette who's still not signed in that spot?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: See, that's one probably would have cooked if I'm going

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Speaker 2: to pass on taking a kicker defense and draft Leonard

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Speaker 2: Fournette and just wait and see. Okay, maybe he signs

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Speaker 2: into two weeks before the season starts because he gets

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Speaker 2: he gets anxious about it.

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Speaker 3: He could be the Colt number one if Taylor gets

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Speaker 3: traded today. Maybe. I just I think it's a little

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Speaker 3: odd that Zeke got picked up and he didn't. Is

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Speaker 3: Kareem hunting the same boat? Kind of kind of?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, do you think they're going to play

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So do you hold the rule again after week two,

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Speaker 3: after the open after the first week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? If they're on your roster in week one as

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Speaker 2: a vested veteran, then there's there's salary counts for the

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Speaker 2: entire season. If they're not, then it goes game. Then's

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Speaker 2: pro rated game by game. I believe that's what it might.

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Speaker 3: Take a week one injury in that situation for one

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Speaker 3: of the two to get signed.

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Speaker 2: You know, but you think you'll start hearing rumors about

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Speaker 2: it though, like, oh, this team is bringing in Leonard Fournette, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the I'm gonna hold on to him and cut Kelly

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Speaker 2: and the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Yea makes sense. No, it's a good conversation. I'm trying

446
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Speaker 3: to think of some others. We talked about Spears. I

447
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Speaker 3: don't know singletary counts sort of. I mean, he's okay,

448
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Speaker 3: you'll probably get drafted in your league anyway.

449
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Speaker 2: I don't think I want any of the Rams backups.

450
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Speaker 3: No, that was the other team. I was trying to

451
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Speaker 3: think of, Tampa Arizona Rams. I might be persuaded the

452
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Speaker 3: draft of.

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Speaker 2: The s sur Price Charbonney wasn't on there.

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Speaker 3: I think he's too good. I think he's the Montgomery conversation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a mid round pick, that's why

456
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Speaker 3: I thought that Swift was I mean, all those guys

457
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Speaker 3: would be out of the top twenty four. If that's

458
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Speaker 3: the rules, then he certainly counts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if they're not, he's don't get me

460
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Speaker 2: in the top twenty four.

461
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Speaker 3: No, he wouldn't be.

462
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Speaker 2: But like you had Swift on there, and he's just

463
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Speaker 2: he's ranking number twenty six. So if he's on there,

464
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Speaker 2: then sharpon Ay and Montgomery and guys like that, Yeah,

465
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Speaker 2: that should be on this list.

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Speaker 3: I forgot what the original conversation was. They're all perfect

467
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Speaker 3: zero RB guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was even digging collect Yeah, collect as many

469
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Speaker 2: of those guys as you can.

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Speaker 3: If you want all the Sharbonas and Swifts you can, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because they're by then I would guess, I don't know

472
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Speaker 3: this well enough by ADP, but I would think you

473
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Speaker 3: probably have a quarterback, a tight end, three receivers.

474
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Speaker 4: Like your other start.

475
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Speaker 2: Now you're gonna start collecting backs.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're loaded.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And in that case, if I'm going to go

478
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Speaker 2: zero running back, a guy like Montgomery who has standalone

479
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Speaker 2: a lot of standalone value is perfect for that perfect

480
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Speaker 2: perfect because I I can start him in week one

481
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Speaker 2: and no, he's gonna go out there and get me

482
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Speaker 2: ten points.

483
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Speaker 3: He's the AJ Dillon conversation. Yeah, like those are the

484
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Speaker 3: guys you want. Warren sorta close.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have standalone value.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he won't get as many early time carries.

487
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Speaker 2: I don't think of Dylan, but he might have four

488
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Speaker 2: catches for thirty four yards in the opener.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope he gets it. I don't. I think

490
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Speaker 3: Bigsby is one of my favorite. Yeah, then give volume,

491
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Speaker 3: He'll give volume and he'll get goal line. Yeah, and

492
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Speaker 3: it might be a better receiver, which is strange, but

493
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Speaker 3: he was the third round pick. Yeah, rookie running backs

494
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Speaker 3: Kendre Miller spears him. You know those guys, it might

495
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Speaker 3: take a couple of weeks, might take a month, but

496
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Speaker 3: they usually start to pay off. Pachecko didn't. You know,

497
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Speaker 3: he came out of nowhere. Yeah, nobody's drafting people for

498
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Speaker 3: people drafting Pachecko's well.

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Speaker 2: There may have been some because he was he's chief

500
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Speaker 2: and he looked in the preseason.

501
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Speaker 3: He tore up the preseason, so yeah, people were taking him.

502
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Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, so I mean, like who's their backup?

503
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Speaker 3: Though McKinnon's a receiver. Pa Checko Edwards. Hilaire is still there.

504
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Speaker 2: He's still He's still a thing.

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Speaker 4: He'll probably make the team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the first round drafting are you're going

507
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Speaker 2: to let him go.

508
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Speaker 3: The other thing you can do in this scenario, too,

509
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Speaker 3: is then you trade the guy as soon as he becomes.

510
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sous he is a then you trade him

511
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Speaker 2: for something more stable. Yeah, or as soon as where

512
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Speaker 2: you trade him to the team that has the starter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Like, Okay, I know that he's hot right

514
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Speaker 3: now to sell the stock before I watch him.

515
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Speaker 2: It's like a penny stock. It's a penny stock.

516
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, that's gonna do it. For the Fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. Uh, Matt.

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Speaker 2: We've got some odds here on Coach of the Year

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. Okay, I'll talk a little bit about

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Speaker 2: that when we come back. You're listening to the Drive

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Speaker 2: here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Fucking bat guy, am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williams

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Speaker 2: and this this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio,

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Speaker 2: and I'm Matt I mentioned uh Coach of the Year odds.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you did because it's funny. I listen

530
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Speaker 3: to a podcast yesterday and I forget who it was,

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Speaker 3: but they went through all it was something betting related

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Speaker 3: like this, but they were talking about what's really the

533
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Speaker 3: criteria for all the awards? Who really wins the awards?

534
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Speaker 3: And Coach of the Year award is really just either

535
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Speaker 3: a new quarterback, a new coach, or take a terrible

536
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Speaker 3: team to mediocrity like Tomlin almost has no chance.

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Speaker 2: Belichick has, He's never won one. Great great coaches rarely

538
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Speaker 2: win this award.

539
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Speaker 3: I don't think Chuck No, he did not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Bill Cower is the only one who won it

541
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Speaker 2: and he wonted his first year with Stanlers.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's how voters think on this, Like I'm

543
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Speaker 3: not sure belichicker Reid has one. I mean, between Harbaugh, Tomlin,

544
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Speaker 3: Carol Belichick Reid, maybe they have two, you know what

545
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Speaker 3: I mean?

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Speaker 2: So looking at it this year, Dan Campbell the favorite

547
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Speaker 2: of plus nine hundred good.

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Speaker 3: One because he's loud and he was on Hard Knocks. Yeah,

549
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Speaker 3: and bites knees and all that.

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Speaker 2: People are afraid of him. Yeah, see people, but they

551
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 2: went nine and seven or nine and eight last year.

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Speaker 2: They're not coming at it really.

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Speaker 4: Similar year to the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's expecting them to win the NFC North.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go with Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: I would not either. I don't think he should be

558
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Speaker 3: the leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: No, nor do I Sean de pat Year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's a perfect example.

561
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Speaker 2: Right, Sean Payton is second at plus one thousand.

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Speaker 4: See, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. But I don't think they can

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Speaker 2: make enough improvement.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like they have like the seventh toughest schedule

567
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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if he is, if he makes Wilson back

569
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Speaker 3: to the Wilson people thought he was, he'll be in

570
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Speaker 3: the conversation. But they still might not win ten games, right,

571
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Speaker 3: I mean with prime Russell Wilson, they might not win

572
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Speaker 3: ten games.

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Speaker 2: Now this next one, there's a couple of guys here

574
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Speaker 2: at plus fourteen hundred. The first is Arthur Smith with

575
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Speaker 2: the Falcons. I think that's if he wins up, they

576
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Speaker 2: win that division. He's he's going to be in the hunt.

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Speaker 4: And I think I'm gonna pick them to win that division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the other on is Matt Eberflus.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't know. Yeah, I mean, okay, I mean

580
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Speaker 3: I guess if they take a they had the worst

581
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Speaker 3: record in the league right here, so they're in. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure the conversation might be like, but

583
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Speaker 3: they won five more games than they did last year, Well,

584
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Speaker 3: they still didn't make the playoffs, make the playoffs, and

585
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Speaker 3: they still maybe weren't five hundred, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, the next two guys have a little something in common.

587
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Speaker 2: Here it is at plus sixteen hundred, Robert Sala and

588
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Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur. What is it they have in common?

589
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Speaker 4: Matt, Yeah, it's a good one too.

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 4: I think la Floor is a decent bet.

592
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Speaker 2: I think Lafloor is a much better bet than solid

593
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Speaker 2: again solid play coaches in New York. If he gets

594
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Speaker 2: the Jets into the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna say it, expect them.

596
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Speaker 2: It's expected.

597
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Speaker 3: He won't get credit if they win the division.

598
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Speaker 2: The Packers make it to the playoffs. It's a big,

599
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 2: much bigger.

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Speaker 3: Deal because there's no expectations, right, all you have to do.

601
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Speaker 3: I mean, the key is exceeding expectations. One guy has

602
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Speaker 3: expectations way up here, and I can get guarantee who

603
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Speaker 3: Salav's record as a head coach is well below five hundred.

604
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: Well below five other guys.

605
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Speaker 3: Expectations down here, and he won thirteen games with three

606
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Speaker 3: years of a row.

607
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Speaker 4: And I might saying who's a better coach?

608
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Speaker 2: But if Salo wins thirteen games this year.

609
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: They're gonna say it's Rogers. Yeah, right, it's it's the end.

610
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: It's the reverse Belichick thing with Belichick Brady.

611
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Speaker 3: Argument, like you know he dragged, he brought the coach up.

612
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Speaker 2: Uh. At plus two thousand is Mike McDaniel, Hmmm, I

613
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Speaker 2: don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I mean I don't I don't see it. They have

615
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Speaker 3: to win the division, Yeah, I mean expectations are high.

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Speaker 2: Expectations are very high. And when you when your expectations,

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Speaker 2: it's almost a Dan Campbell argument. Same thing with Sala exactly,

618
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Speaker 2: like they're the they're the hot teams right now because

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Speaker 2: they won the offseason.

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Speaker 3: Browns will probably be kind of that conversation too.

621
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Speaker 2: At plus two thousand, also is Doug Peterson, Well, they

622
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Speaker 2: already made their.

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Speaker 3: Jump, say, last year is his year. To they'd have

624
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Speaker 3: to they'd have.

625
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Speaker 2: To be like the number one seed in the in

626
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Speaker 2: the AFC and make it to the AFC Championship.

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Speaker 3: I think for win thirteen games or something like that,

628
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Speaker 3: they take another noticeable step.

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Speaker 2: For it just hard to do. I don't see that.

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Speaker 2: I don't see them doing that.

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Speaker 3: I think they're good, but I don't know if they

632
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Speaker 3: could take another big step forward.

633
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: At plus twenty five hundred or a bunch of guys.

634
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Speaker 2: The first is Mike Tomlin.

635
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Speaker 3: See he should because expectations aren't super high.

636
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're being picked forth in a lot of places.

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Speaker 4: But he won't win it.

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Speaker 2: He won't win it.

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Speaker 3: He won't win it. I mean.

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Speaker 2: He didn't win it in twenty nineteen when he had

641
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Speaker 2: that team without Ben Roethlisberger, with with Mason Rudolph and

642
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Speaker 2: Devlin Hodges both making their first career starts in the

643
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Speaker 2: same season. He had that team at eight and five

644
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Speaker 2: in late November and finishing he wasn't in It wasn't

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Speaker 2: even a conversation.

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Speaker 3: And if he wins the North, which is a huge accomplishment,

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Speaker 3: ya this year, he'll get votes. I bet he stills

648
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Speaker 3: win won.

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Speaker 2: Win Yeah, just another great job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

651
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Speaker 2: Also at plus twenty five hundred or Dennis Allen, DeMeco Ryans,

652
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: Shane Steikin, Brandon Staley, Kevin Stefanski, Pete Carroll, and Frank Reich.

653
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Speaker 3: Ryan's stands out. He's new, his quarterbacks new. They've been

654
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: the worst organization in the league for five years running. Now, Yeah,

655
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: just don't stink. Yeah, seven wins and Stroud looks like

656
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: a guy.

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Speaker 2: The only way Staley wins it is if they somehow

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Speaker 2: unseat the Chiefs in the West. Yeah, I mean that

659
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Speaker 2: would that that's a big ass.

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Speaker 3: I mean, his seat is hotter than it is.

661
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Speaker 2: Coach of the Year is Stefanski's already won it for

662
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Speaker 2: finishing second in the in the AFC North. He's not

663
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Speaker 2: winning it again for finishing second in the AFC North.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they will.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if Watson looks like a top three quarterback, maybe,

666
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: I mean I'm trying to think probably would win the

667
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 3: game and win that award. You'd have to be drastic.

668
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen. I could see if they let's say they're

669
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: the number two seed in the NFC playoffs or something

670
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 2: like that, maybe they run away with that division and.

671
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, they might run away with a division.

672
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's pretty easy schedule. That's a possibility.

673
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll would have to beat. They'd have to finish

674
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: first in that division ahead of.

675
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: The forty nine. Right this time last year, we're talking

676
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 3: about Seattle picking the Again.

677
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: It's it's one of those those veteran coaches who's just overlooked. Oh, Pete,

678
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: he just did another Pete Carroll Johns.

679
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: He just turned Drew Locke Gino Smith into a playoff team.

680
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: Geno Smith gets all the credit for that, Pete Carroll

681
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: gets none.

682
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: It's not at this time last year we're talking about

683
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: is it can be Geno or Locke? They got two

684
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: rookie tackles. Their corners are both rookies. They're gonna be awful,

685
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, well went to the playoffs.

686
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: Uh, then you got the three thousand guys or plus

687
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: three thousand. That's Belichick, Mike Frable, Josh McDaniels, Zach Taylor,

688
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, John Harbaugh a cdit.

689
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: That's the good coaches. Yeah, good coaches who again, their

690
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 2: team's made the playoffs last year or at least was knocking

691
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: on the door.

692
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: And I mean some of those guys have to go

693
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: like fifteen and two, right, yeah, they even get it.

694
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: But what about Rabel?

695
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: I think if I like, if they win that division,

696
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: Rabel should be coach of the decade. Maybe not that

697
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: that's a I mean it's a bad division, of course,

698
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: but they're any any talent like Trevor Lawrence getting hurt

699
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: would open that thing wide open.

700
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: Like if they win nine games, that's a Tomlin with

701
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: Duck type of year. Yeah, you know, but everyone already

702
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 3: knows he's a great coach, and you know, like.

703
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: I don't see how Zach Taylor can win it.

704
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm expectations too. I say, of the Bills, the Bills

705
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: could be fourteen to three.

706
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: It's like, man, you see differing opinions all over the

707
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: place on the Rams, who I think are going to stink.

708
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 2: But if McVeigh somehow got them to like eleven or

709
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: twelve wins.

710
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: I'm even thinking like nine.

711
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they're very good, but a lot

712
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: of people think they're going to be good.

713
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 3: See I don't, But yeah, I think there are that's

714
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: well said. I think there's differing opinions on what the

715
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Rams can be this year. If he gets a TA

716
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: to nine wins, I'll be like, man, you're heck, I

717
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: mean they don't have many good players. Man.

718
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. At the bottom of the list Kevin O'Connell's plus

719
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred, Ron Rivera's plus thirty five hundred, Nick

720
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: Sirianni plus thirty five hundred, and then you have three

721
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: guys at plus four thousand. That's Brian Dable, Mike McCarthy,

722
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott. And then at the bottom of this you

723
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: have Andy Reid at plus five thousand. These are the

724
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: exactly like the best coach of all. These are the

725
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: exactly opposites of the of the equation here. So you

726
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 2: got Andy Reid at plus five thousand, Todd Bowles at

727
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: plus five thousand.

728
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: Wow, ones like the first or second best coach, and

729
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: the other ones hanging on for his life.

730
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: The other one's going to be starting Baker Mayfield at quarterback.

731
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but some of those rookie head coaches might not

732
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: be terrible bets colts.

733
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: Usually where it goes right, Oh hey, look at this guy.

734
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: He came in and he's the hot That's how Stefanski wanted. Yeah, yeah, exactly,

735
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: he wasn't good at I mean that he out.

736
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: Coach Tomlin and Harbaugh and Belichick that year. You know,

737
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: if things will switched been better. Oh that's a weird one.

738
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: It's just a weird the way that they do it.

739
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: Like I don't think anyone's want it back to back

740
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: years either, Like day ball, you can't be.

741
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: Coaching the year two. Belichick would have won it like

742
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: four times already.

743
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, right exactly.

744
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: There's a lot of those Joe Gibbs, you know, winning

745
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: with different quarterbacks year after year.

746
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Johnson, you know back in the early nole. Yeah, right,

747
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: right right, these guys doing ninasty. Well, you're expected to win.

748
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: You're not going to win that award.

749
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: It's like read reads the last one on the list,

750
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: which brings me back, Like Dan can't like, well, that's

751
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: why Dan Campbell and Robert Sala and Mike McDaniel can't

752
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: win this award.

753
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: You're expected to be good.

754
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think the odds.

755
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're coaching organizations that have been crapped for a

756
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: long time and haven't had success, but they're expected to

757
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: be in contention.

758
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: Those teams win seven or eight games, it's gonna be

759
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: like their seat got hot, they're getting they might get

760
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: fired and make right. I mean they're expected to win

761
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 3: eleven ten. Yeah, I think there's some of betting guru obviously,

762
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: but if you took some of the long shots there,

763
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: I mean I bet day ball chances were really low

764
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: last year. Oh yeah, new coach.

765
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy the quarterback.

766
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 2: They're not good. They haven't been good in the decade,

767
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: right right right.

768
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: I think that's where you make your money at this Yeah.

769
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: I don't bet on the Hall of Fame coaches. No,

770
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: they got no chance.

771
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: They got no chance because that's just expected.

772
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, no chance.

773
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Could Ron Rivera win it?

774
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: I was thinking that too, Yeah, they watching. Yeah, I

775
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 3: mean if he has a Giants like year, sneaks into

776
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: the places into the playoffs awful conference, that could happen.

777
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: Gets a couple of bounces, you know what I mean,

778
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: that could happen. That could happen. Yeah, I don't know,

779
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: like how the Vikes could win it or Tampa. You know,

780
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: there's a couple of I was just thinking when you

781
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: said that, like, where the Giants really a legit playoff

782
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: team last year? Probably not? Yeah, but they're probably gonna

783
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: be a six and almost definitely a seven seed in

784
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: the NFC.

785
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: That's similar.

786
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're that team, you're gonna have a chance

787
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Bears or the Packers, you know, or the Falcons sat. Yeah,

788
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: I like the Falcon one because, yeah, you're pretty good.

789
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: Odds plus fourteen hundred on Arthur Smith sounds.

790
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good, you know, honest, a lot of talent there.

791
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, Dennis Allen, A plus twenty five hundred isn't bad either.

792
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: It's not bad for a lot of the same reasons. Really. Yeah, yeah,

793
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: that makes some sense.

794
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: That's just but that tells you exactly how little everybody

795
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: thinks of the of the Buccaneers as well, because the

796
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 2: other three coaches in that division are all pretty high

797
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: and Todd Bowles is dead right.

798
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: That's a good point. So I did this the other

799
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: day and it's a totally off memory, but if you

800
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: look at the Falcons and Saints schedule, they're seventeen games,

801
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: and if we widely regard these are the top ten

802
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league, one of them they both face

803
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: Lawrence and one of them faces Rogers, and that's it,

804
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 3: you know, Like.

805
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: It's largely the same way for the Steelers this year.

806
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: It's not that much different except for the division.

807
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Except for the vision. You know, the Steelers face Lawrence

808
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: and that's it, right, and it's home, you know, And Okay.

809
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: You get ANFC South was any good quarterback?

810
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get to play Lamar Jackson. Well, you've done

811
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: a pretty good job against Lamar Jackson in his career.

812
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: And well, he hasn't played against He's only played one

813
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: game against the Steelers in each of the last three seasons.

814
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: I believe he always ends up missing the Steeler game

815
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: for whatever reason. Last year, you beat Burrow in Cincinnati,

816
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: you know, yeah.

817
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 4: I mean that's not the craziest thing.

818
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Ever.

819
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: The only time you ever faced to Sean Watson, you

820
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: beat him twice.

821
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 3: I would rather face an elite quarterback in the division

822
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: than now because of familiarity.

823
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: Familiarity not just with him, but with the personnel that

824
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: he's using and the scheme.

825
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: In the opposing coach. Yeah, you know, I mean, you know, horriball.

826
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean, all the coaches in division of each other.

827
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: Really well, at this point, there's no one new, you know.

828
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: I would much rather face Oh, they're gonna face him twice, right,

829
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: I mean in a singular game. If Allan and Burrow

830
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 3: or the second and third best quarterback in the league,

831
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: I'd rather face Burrow. Yeah.

832
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: But if I'm the Jets, face that one.

833
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you play them more more comfortable.

834
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't.

835
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: You don't have to spend the whole week showing guys

836
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: what it's like to play Lamar Jackson if you've play

837
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson twice a year and you guys already know exactly,

838
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: and there's video out there. Hey for the new guys, well, look,

839
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: here's t J. Watt getting after Lamar Jackson on this play.

840
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: Lamar runs away from him on this one.

841
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: He didn't because the other team, even if they have

842
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: the better quarterback, is still saying, yeah, but we can't.

843
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to play wat. I don't want to,

844
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think there is

845
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: some value to that. That's what's interesting about the Nasty

846
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: South to me, the opponents are so kind, especially for

847
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: the Falcons and s.

848
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprising to see two teams come out of

849
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: the South.

850
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually said that the other day. I'm like,

851
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: I'm not sure whom gonna picked the win that team division.

852
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: But I'm going to have the Falcons and Saints in

853
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

854
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Why not?

855
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: I mean I like their chances better than schedule means

856
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: so much.

857
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: We've talked about it all off season with the Steelers schedule,

858
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: it means something for those other teams as well. Right,

859
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: you know you're playing an easy schedule.

860
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: It is.

861
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: You know, all those years the Steelers have played a

862
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: difficult schedule, nobody said, well, yeah, they won nine games

863
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: this year, but that schedule was so hard. They win

864
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: eleven games this year because the schedule is easy.

865
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: It is what it is like if the Giants, Commander's,

866
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: Saints and Falcons are competing for playoff spots, well one

867
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: of them had to play Dallas and Philly twice, Yeah,

868
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: and each other where these guys just had to play

869
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: each other, right, Yeah.

870
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: It makes a differences huge. Absolutely. He is Matt Williamson.

871
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Speaker 3: I thought he was broken bone though I think that

883
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: heals reasonably well.

884
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: But it's in his wrist. But you know, you wonder

885
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: how that affects a Does he have a cast that

886
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: goes over the hand with that to stabilize, I think

887
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: miss time. He's gonna miss sometimes. Yeah, So again, I

888
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: had I thought he was the best receiver in this

889
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: year's draft. You thought he was the best receiver in

890
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: this year's draft. Not a great landing spot for him, but.

891
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 4: Preseasons looked really good.

892
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: He has so from like a fantasy side of things.

893
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: If he drops two rounds, I'm grabbing him because I

894
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: wasn gonna start on Week one anyway, right, you know

895
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But it does hurt Seattle

896
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: a little bit because he's important to them.

897
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you saw this one, but

898
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: the father of Titans cornerback Caleb Farley was killed in

899
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: an explosion at Farley's home.

900
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: In Caleb's home.

901
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

902
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: Wow, he's had some bad luck.

903
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 4: He's had some bad luck.

904
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's worse than bad luck.

905
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: That's that's horrible tragedy. Yeah.

906
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: I mean that's obviously different than blowing out your a

907
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 3: cl or whatever, of course, but wow, that's awful. Yeah.

908
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: That just happened in the last twenty four hours or so.

909
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Buccaneers have made Baker Mayfield. They're starting

910
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: quarterback over Kyle Trask.

911
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think that means Trask isn't good. Yeah,

912
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, because we know what Baker is at this point,

913
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: and I'm sure he's better than Trash.

914
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: They played Trask they gave him the start against the

915
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 2: Jets in Week two.

916
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, after Baker played a Week one against Steelers.

917
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 2: And didn't use Baker at all. Trash basically played about

918
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: three quarters of that game, plus they scored thirteen points.

919
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: Point And I actually thought Baker played well against Steelers.

920
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: It was one of the few bright spots for that team. Yeah,

921
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 3: but he is what he is, and there's no upside there,

922
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: Like if Trash had any It's almost like hal Verse

923
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 3: per set. Yeah, if one of them really had upside,

924
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: you'd play him, and I don't think Trask.

925
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: Is going to be a I will say this. We

926
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: haven't talked about this. The Russell Gage injury opened things

927
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: up for Trey Palmer.

928
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, okay, yeah a little bit.

929
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: Trey Palmer's touchdown catches in both of those games look

930
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: good against the Steelers.

931
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a guy, he's probably three.

932
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, if they're gonna run the similar

933
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: type offense Goblin plays inside a lot, Trey Palmer's on

934
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: the outside.

935
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

936
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: That's the kind of guys they need to play.

937
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh absolutely, And if they do, you know, if

938
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: they trade Evans or something like that, I think that's

939
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: possible too. All of a sudden, Palmer takes a big

940
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: jump up. Don't forget about him and your fast he

941
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: The uh Cardinals still haven't named a Week one starter.

942
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 3: I haven't even still a competition assumed to be McCoy.

943
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: It's got to be mcc He can't start Clayton tune.

944
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 4: He hasn't done much in the preseason unless it.

945
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though, if they're truly in tanking

946
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: in this situation, then you start tune.

947
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

948
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: M hmm.

949
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: What a message that sends, though, Do you say that's.

950
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: Not how you tank though? Yeah, you tank by well,

951
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

952
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: You win a lot of games, but you're at least

953
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 2: semi competitive, Like he's not. Colt McCoy's not going to

954
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: go out there and turn the ball over four times,

955
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: which Clayton Tune could.

956
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: He can get you in and out of a hod

957
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: the NFL stadium and all that stuff that I like.

958
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: Clayton Tune is a is a late round prospect this year?

959
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I bet he plays this year. Yeah, at

960
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 3: some point. I don't know if Kyler will.

961
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

962
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 3: That's the tank move is when Kyler is ready, do

963
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: you play him or not? If you're one and seven?

964
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, here's the thing. Colt McCoy's played twenty four

965
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: snaps in the preseason, so kind of treating him like

966
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: he's the starter. But he's nine or twelve for forty

967
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: two yards.

968
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: And the supporting cast is junk.

969
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Tune is, and you would play the rookie

970
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: more Tune's twenty five of forty seven for two hundred

971
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: and sixty eight yards with a touchdown in the interception. Well,

972
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: you're going to play the rookie to get him more acclimated.

973
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 4: Coup McCoy doesn't need the preseason.

974
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: No, Colt McCoy's played a thousand preseasons now at this

975
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: point in his career.

976
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 3: It's bad though.

977
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean the trouble is is that knee injury for

978
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray was December twelfth.

979
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's super late. I mean, there's great

980
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: excuse not to play him at all. Yeah, if you choose,

981
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 3: if ownership's like, let's get the first overall pick.

982
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which, yeah.

983
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: So if I was ownership, I'm never a tanker. But

984
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: your chances of being good this year are so slim

985
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: anyway that if you could arrange that team in that conference, Like,

986
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: to me, Hurts and Dak are the only top ten

987
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: type quarterbacks in that whole conference. If I can get

988
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams or Drake May and Marvin Harrison's kid with

989
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: my first two picks, right, you could get back in

990
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: the hunt in the NFC pretty darn quick and then

991
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: trade Kyler to the Vikings for a first round pick

992
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: or something.

993
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: Here's a problem, Kyler Murray's base salary. That's the thing

994
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 2: that's awful his base salary next year, he would have

995
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 2: to completely reworkers deal. It's thirty seven million dollars next year.

996
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 4: Right, it's awful. I mean, it's one of the worst contracts.

997
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 2: It goes down to eighteen million and twenty twenty five,

998
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: and then twenty two point eight million in nineteen five.

999
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: They don't have an out on that deal though, potential

1000
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: out oh no, until after the twenty twenty seven season.

1001
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: It's a really bad deal. It was awful as a

1002
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: bad deal when they signed it, and they signed it

1003
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 3: a year too early.

1004
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he to do it. His dead cap space in

1005
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four is eighty one and a half million dollars.

1006
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

1007
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's a third of the salary cap.

1008
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: The new team would have not had to pay the bonus.

1009
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: So yeah, but it's still on easy word.

1010
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: It's eighty one million dollars on their on the Cardinals cap.

1011
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: They can't afford to get out of that.

1012
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: I know.

1013
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 2: That's a thirty year salary cap. Bind me bad again.

1014
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be able to surround the new guy

1015
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: and then the kid with anything.

1016
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: Right, But if you think williams or May is a

1017
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: transcendent talent, you have to do it.

1018
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 2: You have to do it. I understand that, but you

1019
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 2: gotta go to Kyler Murray's say, hey, we we gotta

1020
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: get it. We gotta you gotta rework this deal so

1021
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: we can get you traded because otherwise we can't do it.

1022
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: Can't do it. No. And I'm throwing the Vikings out

1023
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: there because Cousins is a free agent.

1024
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: And after they threw him under the bus last year

1025
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: with the whole.

1026
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: Stock is at the bottom.

1027
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: They didn't help that right now, Yeah, they didn't help that,

1028
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: and he might be ticked off with them anyways, like

1029
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: you wanted to put that claw. He was ticked off

1030
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: about the close you embarrassed in publicly.

1031
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: He gave me a giant contract that I didn't quite deserve.

1032
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: Not to mention if I am the Vikings, I didn't

1033
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: see you play all year, Yeah.

1034
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: Or maybe a game or two with nothing around you.

1035
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: It's a mess.

1036
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: That's a bad Situation's a mess.

1037
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh looking here around the league. A little bit.

1038
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: To add Drake May and Marvin Harrison Junior.

1039
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah for the Panthers, Miles Sanders status and the preseason

1040
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: finale versus the Lion says yet to be determined. He's

1041
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: dealing with a groin injury.

1042
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: I think he's expected for Week one.

1043
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: That's kind of been the story of his career though

1044
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: little you know injuries like that. Uh, Leviskus Shinald is

1045
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: in a concussion protocol and a cornerback Dante Jackson won't

1046
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: play in the preseason finale. Should we go to week

1047
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: should be good to go in Week one. He's dealing

1048
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: with an ankle injury.

1049
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, tragic.

1050
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. With the Bears, offensive tackle Darnell Wright, who was

1051
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: their first run draft pick, went to the sideline during

1052
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: practice with an injury. Head coach Matt Eberfliss told reporters

1053
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: does not have any clarity on what happened yet.

1054
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: That's not what you want to hear. No, first I

1055
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: heard that. But he's unlike progerck Jones, like he is

1056
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: the starting right tack. Yeah, there's no other options. He's

1057
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: the guy.

1058
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: Not only that, but guard Tevin Jenkins, who they drafted

1059
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: to be a tackle a couple of years ago. He's

1060
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: dealing with an injury and is considered weak to week

1061
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: week to weeks.

1062
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: That's not good. Yeah, he's found a home at guard. Yeah,

1063
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: he's a superstar. He's not, you know, but.

1064
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: He's but he could.

1065
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 4: He's the Bestay, guys, he's fine.

1066
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Yeah yah uh. And then the Tremaine Edmonds who they

1067
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: signed in the offseason to a big money deal. He

1068
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: returned to practice for the first time since August fourth.

1069
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: Wow. So my co host on the other podcast and

1070
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 3: I fight about this a lot. He's he's all in

1071
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: on the Bears. I don't.

1072
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't see it.

1073
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm in on Fields. Yeah, I mean, I

1074
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: don't think Field is going to be a flop. I

1075
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: think we'll take a nice step forward. I think they

1076
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of issues. Yeah, their defense might be

1077
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: in the worst in the league.

1078
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: And miss eighteen days that Tremaine Edmonds didn't.

1079
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 3: Practice for them, Yeah, wow, they invested.

1080
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: That's basically the all of training camp. He didn't practice and.

1081
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: You're supposed to be the green dot.

1082
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: Guy probably and all that. Yeah.

1083
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: Jack Conklin remains in concussion protocol for the Browns, but

1084
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: he will practice. He was scheduled to practice today. Per

1085
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski.

1086
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: I've heard some rumblings that Dwad Jones sooner than people think,

1087
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: might be their starting right tackle.

1088
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they cleared a bunch of camp space. They reworked

1089
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett Steel today again. Once again they kicked a

1090
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: can down the you know, down the road a little

1091
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: bit like, what do you what are you making clearing

1092
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: camp space for now? You can carry that over the

1093
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: next year. Maybe that's what they're thinking here. Maybe, but

1094
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: you've pushed more money for Garrett and Watson in the

1095
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: next year already. There had to be some kind of

1096
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: benefit to that.

1097
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 3: There has to be another shoe to drop. Yeah, and

1098
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't know that they're Are they trading for somebody?

1099
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: I don't think who knows, But I found that peculiar too.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they're freeing up money in case well, in

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Speaker 2: case well, I don't know, Cleveland cuts Joe Hayden. Wait,

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Speaker 2: that was them that did that. I can't do that.

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00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: A mon Ross Saint Brown will not play in Friday's

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00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: preseason finale, but he is doing great according to Dan Campbell.

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00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: Ready to bite some ankles. Let's see here, We've got

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans signed cornerback camera and danceler.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty high pick. Yeah.

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00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: Uh. Anthony Richardson will start Thursday's preseason finale against the

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00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 2: Eagles for the Colts after not playing last week.

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Speaker 3: That's so, that's uh, they need to play him as

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00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 3: much as possible. But he played a lot in the

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Speaker 3: combined practices.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still would have played him.

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00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 4: I still played him in every snap I could.

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00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Isaiah Bolden is in concussion protocol for the New

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00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 2: England Patriots. That's good news on him situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The one that I found interesting was Kenneth Walker's back

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Speaker 3: to one hundred percent. He's been kind of struggling and

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Speaker 3: I think he's ready to. Yeah.

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00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 2: For the Jets, Corey Davis remains away from the team

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00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: as he deals with the personal matter. Dwayne Brown, the

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00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: ninety nine year old offensive tackle he's dealing with a

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Speaker 2: shoulder injury, will be evaluated today and activated off the

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Speaker 2: pup list. If he's cleared.

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Speaker 4: Well, they're counting on him.

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Speaker 3: The line is the achilles heel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking in which Elijah Vera Tucker with an ankle.

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Speaker 2: He'll be available against the Giants Persala. I doubt he plays.

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00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: On the other side that one. Maybe they will play

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00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: these guys since Rodgers is playing Lake and Tomlinson has

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00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: been dealing with a leg injury also will play. Is

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00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: available here and Thomlinson and they will start Mackay Beckton

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Speaker 2: in the Frank Ti Scorda left.

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00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 3: Doesn't say I think he's gone to the.

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00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: Right, He's moved over to the right side.

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00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, assuming dwe Brown comes back.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned earlier, the San Francisco forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: they signed Anthony Miller, one of the guys they cut, well,

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00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 2: actually two guys they cut there today. One was waved injured,

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00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: that was Dalen Hayes and then wide receiver Daz Newsom

1143
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: who was a draft pick. Uh and then we mentioned

1144
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, not seeing much else.

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00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans cut two kickers and signed Michael Badgeley,

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00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: So I would assume he's going to be their kicker

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00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: this year.

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00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: That means they're one of those six teams that's going

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00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 3: to be the revolving revolving kickers.

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00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caleb, but Caleb shoot acting Trey Wolf for the

1152
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: guys that they cut, So that's what they were. Two guys, Yeah,

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00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: two guys who could I could walk into this room

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00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: right now and we would not know who they are.

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00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: Right So that was their plan when they went to Hope.

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00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 2: Hope was not a plan. Yeah, Yeah.

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00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: Again. If Abel gets eight or nine wins out.

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00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: Of it, I'll be shocked. Yeah, that's going to do

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Speaker 2: it for the show today, Matt fun We will be

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Speaker 2: back on Friday running down the breaking down the Steelers game,

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Speaker 2: the preseason finale against the Atlanta Falcons. That's going to

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Speaker 2: do it for us, So for my partner Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: for CJ. Wolfe here on site keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale, Allie. We thank you for listening to this

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Speaker 2: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.