1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations. Absolutely. 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald's here Atlanta, Georgia. You know I'm here every Monday, 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: uh doing what I do for you, bringing people on 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: the show. We got a lot of studio guests. We 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: will introduce him in a minute, but basically, let's talk 13 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: about you. Let's talk about being the best that you 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: can be. And a lot of people don't. They don't 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: feel a need to uh step by the feel a 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: need to complain, but they don't feel a need to do. 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: And only way you can do is to plan on 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: the way you can plan to, said Gold and you 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: said goals. These originated from your dreams. If you have 20 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: a dream. It can be achieved if you're willing to 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: be consistent with your actions. And that's what this show 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: is all about. I bring on the individuals who are successful, 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: who are successful, entertained, successful from the small business world, 24 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: successful from the corporate world, industry decision makers, so you 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: can hear their stories and I try to pull out 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: information from their stories that you can become nuggets for 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: you to be successful in your daily life. Yeah, this 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: shows every Monday at ten am the New You also 29 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: hear me on how University Campus Serious channel one one 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: and all always hear me on all HBCU Campus on 31 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Serious Serious XM Channel one forty two. Then of course 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Alexa got me. If you enable money made conversation, I 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: start talking to your bath through and backgroard. If you 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: got a party you're throwing down with your crew, just 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: say enable money made conversations. I'll start giving advice. Shut 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the room down, specially electric sliding. I will shut down 37 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: the room. I know my people, what is that? Always 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: reached out with the funny voice and so, but it's 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: about advice. Advice I'm trying to give to you. And 40 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: when I bring people on the show, the most important 41 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: thing I try to give to them is lead a 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: balanced life, something I was not able to accomplish. Uh. 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: The last twenty years of my life. I was just 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: so focused on the next goal and didn't enjoy that goal, 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: nor that I wanted to spend the amount of time 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: that I should have spent with my family. Not saying 47 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: my family and my relationship suffer, but I knew I 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of could have done better if I respected the 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: principles of a balanced life. My next quest, who's sitting 50 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: next to me? Uh? Saw me in that you know 51 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: what I call that that war torn that war torn 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: period when I was out there just grinding, just griding. 53 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: And when I said grinding, Uh saw him do comedy 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and again when you see doing the BT 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Comedy View Tour, Comic View Tour, and uh, you know, 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: just go back a little bit. Scarce was an audience 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: or a warm up person, radial personality, a writer, full 58 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: flared professional stand up comedy. I'm touching them to. Uh. 59 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: He's on the show today. Discussed hosting the tenth annual 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Bronze Lens Awards show and many other career plans. Please 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: welcome to money making Common versations Rodney Perry. I must 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: be making money, man. I love it. Man. First of all, 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: thank you for having me on man. You you know, 64 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: you said some really interesting balance man. And I think 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, as guys like you and I have had 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: like traumatic health things that that really wake you up 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: to balance. When you when you're laying in the hospital 68 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: bed and you look around you see who's really there, 69 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: it makes you go wow. So I've been working, I've 70 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: been grinding, I've been trying to get way out there 71 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: to that thing. But the reality is the people around 72 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: you is a success. The people around you, people that 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: really really care, to the five or six or eight 74 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: or nine people that that really matter. And you know 75 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: we were in through all with social media and all 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: that stuff and and again making it, making it, making it. 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, you can still have those goals, 78 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: but the people that matter matter right, and you have 79 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: to matter. That's the key. And I said you talked 80 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: about the the traumatic because because we all think we 81 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: are immortally have a timeline when it's your stop and 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: when it when it when it comes to you, Like 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: my my version was thyroid cancer. When it was announced 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: doctor told me, I can assure everybody. Once somebody tells 85 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: you the word, the cancer word to you just shut 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: down your whole mind process because because I don't care 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: where we are, you think that, you think that there's 88 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: a there's why. First of all, the why me immediately 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: jumps into you absolutely, and then you start And it's 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: what it allowed me to do, was allowed me to 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: make an assessment of where I was in my life 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: and where I can go. Fortunately for me, my cancer 93 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: isn't remission. And but that doesn't mean that that it 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: can't come back. The word that's what remission means. It 95 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: can't come back, and so it might be on another mission. Absolutely. 96 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: And so when it was affecting you, what part of 97 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: your life did you take in perspective? And as far 98 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: as the creer that you had built up to that point, 99 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you take it on perspective. My my dramatic 100 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: health scare was a stroke. I had a stroke. So 101 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm on the road Denver, Colorad. I know I'm telling jokes, 102 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: and I talked to my my buddy, Joey Wells, and 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: he was telling about another friend of ours that I 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: had a stroke, young lady named Mickey Gordon. And he 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: was telling me what had happened. And as he was 106 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: telling me her symptoms, in my mind I was like, yo, 107 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that right now. Wow. And so as 108 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: we were talking, I was like, yo, man, I'm really 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: not feeling good. I'm on the road. I'm in a 110 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: hotel room, Denver, Colorado. And uh so I went across 111 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: the street to Walmart. I stuck my arm in the sleeve. 112 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: My blood pressure was two twenty one over onet. This 113 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: is how stupid your boys. I still gonna do two 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: shows that I got. I got obligations to do my 115 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: do my job. So forget how I'm feeling this. This 116 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: is how misguided I was. You know, in relationship what 117 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: you started ballance. So I was so singularly minded hitting 118 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: that stage. I even I even remember having this Thoughers. 119 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: I remember saying to myself, if I die, I wanted downstage. 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: And I had given that thought, not not thought of 121 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: my family, and not thought of what it would be 122 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: like to lose a father, a husband, a friend. I 123 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: don't even think about that. I was thinking about comedy. 124 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: And so even in those diat moments and so um 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I went to the emergency room after the shows that night, 126 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: Shiop hands you know, took pictures all that stuff the 127 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: emercy room. You're in a hurry to get there, dude, 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm in my mind they would they were lower my 129 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: pressure and send me home. I walked into the emergency room, 130 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: I was in. I see you for the next eight days. 131 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: I spent the next forty years old days in rehab, 132 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: learning how to walk again, learn how to use my 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: left hand again. My my stroke happened on my left side. 134 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: So basically, what happens your brain stops talking to that 135 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: side of your body. And so I was never in pain, 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: but I felt all those feelings. I felt the why me? 137 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: And you know, a guy kept telling me is why 138 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: not you? Why not you? Why not you be the 139 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: one to get to tell his story? And so you 140 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: go through the whole mental thing. I mean, I'm I'm 141 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna stand up com again. I cannot stand right. I 142 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: literally cannot stand up. I had to learn how to 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: walk again. I had a little little older my physical 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: therapy was a little older white lady, and she was 145 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: teaching me how to walk. And you know what, we 146 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: don't realize that people of color, it's stuff in your 147 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: walk that ain't textbook right. You know, you gotta he toe. 148 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to put all this little you know, pivot ball. 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: You're like, you're gonna fall down if you put one 150 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: mode swag. So yeah, but that's that's amazing. So the 151 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: thing about is that your story is equally as crazy 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: as my story. Because I was in denial of my 153 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: health situation. I took my time getting to the hospital 154 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: and I stayed there thirty days. So I beat your record, 155 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: a record of stupidity. Okay, and because of the thing 156 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: but when you when you come back, you're trying to 157 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: play catch up. Yeah, that's why I was just trying 158 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: to play catch up front. I didn't want to lose, 159 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, in the industry of the 160 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, out of sight, out of mine, what have 161 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: you done for me lately? What have you done late? 162 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: And so now we we we we on the show 163 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: to day to talk about the tenth annual Bronze Lands 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: War you're hosting Saturday, Autist. Yeah, I'm excited, man. I've 165 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: been a fan of Bronze Lands for some time now. 166 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: When you think of of of African American film festivals, 167 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: it's it's at the top of the hierarchy. As that goes, 168 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: you've got a b FF and you've got Bronze Land 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: and so and Bronze Lens is right here in Atlanta. 170 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: And I've been living here in fourteen years. And living 171 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: here in Atlanta, you have a sense of history. You 172 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: have a sense of the civil rights movement, you have 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: you you feel that and and what I love about 174 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Atlanta is the things that are are black are dope. 175 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: Black owner and there's a lot of black owner operated 176 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: businesses things of that nature, and they're they're really nice. 177 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: You can go to Chicago, no this to Chicago or 178 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: d C or Baltimore or l A. But you can 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: see black owned business but they may not be the 180 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: as as good or comparable to their white counterparts. And 181 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: you see that, you know, in numbers here in Atlantic 182 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: and so um to be a part of Bronze Lands 183 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: was amazing. They reached out and and I was like, 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: why y'all have just called me? They went to my 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: agent's respect though, that's what that's respect that because it's 186 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: called direct. Sometimes a hooker there's always you know, and 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: then you go, okay, this is a professional moment because 188 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: I like that. I like people to call me that nobby. 189 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: I go, okay, okay, what about the car ride, what 190 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: about their red room? What about all they're all of 191 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: a sudden the business side steps up. That's when they 192 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: come through the right representation. You win it and then 193 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: everything is in order and in in in life or 194 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: the helps or the helps. So yeah, so I'll be 195 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: hosting this year, and you know you add Roddey Perry 196 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: when you want your stuff, You're an event to be fun. 197 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, energize and energize because I'm gonna get you that. 198 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: Oh You're gonna get the energy because that's your that's 199 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: your signature, your stand up energy. That's why I always 200 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: always admire people who are like you, because you do 201 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: comedy I would never do. And that's not an insult. 202 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: It's just that your mind thinks differently. I could never 203 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: put forth the energy you put on stage, but but 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: I had to relearn it, That's what I'm saying. So, 205 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: so you know, post stroke, I was way less physical 206 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: because I just couldn't be that physical. I'm kind of 207 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: getting back to that now, but I'm still not. I'm 208 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: probably you know, I'm probably sixty percent of myself as 209 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: far as what I used to do. Physically. But I 210 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: learned how to be more verbal. I learned how to 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: use my words better. I'm a better comedian now. I 212 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: love that. I love the fact that you're you're taking 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: these natural talents. First of all, your background Chicago, went 214 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: to Louisiana, the navy man and in Englewood, all that 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: because all those journeys shaped you. And the thing that 216 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: also means that you your storyteller. That's that's a natural 217 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: bottom line, natural gift, your storyteller. But again, set back stone, 218 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: stop you know, sir, I'm I'm I'm too stupid to 219 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: stop right like I'm successful, you know. I mean, I 220 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: could have easily looked at my peers, looked at the 221 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Hearts of the world, the Cat Williams of the world. 222 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: I could have looked at the people that was around me. 223 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: That that really blew and went and felt sorry for myself. 224 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: I was telling my friend my son the other day, 225 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I was like, it's easy to look at other people, 226 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: but what what you have to be able to do 227 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: is look at yourself and be thankful for the steps 228 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: you can make. When you're lay in the hospital bed 229 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: and you cannot make a single step, you have to 230 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: find a way to be thankful for that step. That's 231 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: important to hear because you know, I'm associated with a 232 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 1: lot of those successful people and people I stopped doing 233 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: stand up and shorty managing Steve. People go, hey, man, 234 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: you're just as funny as this guy. Why aren't you 235 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: for doing them? Developing your career that that was my mission. 236 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: My mission is what I'm doing right now. I enjoy 237 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: my life and I'm happy with the with the revenue 238 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: that I that I and the platforms that I create. 239 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: So when I look at you, you got my forty 240 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: or five seconds left, let's talk. You got the Bronze Lands, 241 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: hosting going down in the book out Rodney Perry, moments 242 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: on my journey, bonding on what Amazon righting as avail 243 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: and you get an autographed copy from me via my 244 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: social media writeing Perry Line comedy album comedy albums called Survivor. 245 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: It's on iTunes and all digital platforms. Improv improv be 246 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: fast a TL you can higl alrighty Perry dot com, 247 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: go to go to website. We're ready, man, money making come, 248 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: I'm making getting this paper baby, all right, He's great, 249 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: he's my friend. He's coming back because we need to 250 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: break down those classes and bring somebody else on the shows. 251 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: It's happy, yet, I want to hear your your whole 252 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: infrastructure on the show Money. Main conversation with Rodney Perry, 253 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: Keep winning Everybody. 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Then all of a suddenly started getting 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: bigger and the bigger because I started bringing on people 280 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know. So I to do my research, do 281 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: my history. What is the value of money making conversation? 282 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: The value money making Conversations that I present information from CEOs, 283 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: um interest decision makers, small business people, and celebrities. They 284 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: talked about how they have are leading their successful and 285 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: balanced life. A balanced life is very important because something 286 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: I was I didn't have a clear understanding of how 287 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: to perform that task. And now I clearly know that 288 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: I have that. You gotta be balanced, you gotta work, 289 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: and you gotta have time for your family, gonna have 290 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: time for yourself more importantly, and so my next guest 291 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: is one of those people who lives an incredibly busy 292 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: life and balanced because I'm gonna start off with her 293 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: first critic. She's a mom, and she's a proud mom, 294 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: and she talks about herself of being a proud mom 295 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: weekly on the tom Join Them nationally syndicated morning show. 296 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: She's also an incredibly busy actress. And I've known her 297 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: all the way back to the j Amy Fox days. 298 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: That's all the way back as years ago when we 299 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: were first man. She's she's just just just blossoming that. 300 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: It's an incredible comedic actress. She's a TV host, a 301 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: game show host, she's a comedian, she's an entrepreneur and 302 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: bestselling author. She is now starring in the new movie 303 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Brian Banks, which I saw and it's highly recommending everybody 304 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: to see run to the theaters right now to see 305 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: that movie. But she would also be talking about her 306 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: other projects, the Netflix comedy series of Mr. Iglesias, the 307 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: game show Networks Best Ever Trivia, and she has a 308 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: new weight loss program called Healthy Wage. Please welcome to 309 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. Good friend of mine, Sherry Shephard, Hey, Rasan, 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: how are you? How we first of all, how do 311 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: you have time to talk to me? You know, I'm 312 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: actually in a car driving to another location. You know, 313 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: it's really wonderful because you know, we've both seen ourselves 314 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: take changes in our career, is you know? And and 315 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: then and then all of a sudden you're you're kind 316 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: of lost, you kind of who am I? Because you 317 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: get branded to a certain brand and as all people 318 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: know yourself, you know you for and then all of 319 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: sudden you have to look inside yourself to say what 320 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: am I capable of doing? You know, over the last 321 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: three years, that's what I've done. You know, I'm so 322 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: blessed I'm in a position now to say Rushan McDonald's 323 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: a brand. And now I look at you and you 324 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: truly are I've developed into a brand? Can you tell 325 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: our listeners just in some ways? How are you able 326 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: to make a transition to be able to redefine who 327 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: Sherry Shepherd is? Um? You know, I think it's about 328 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: taking risks. I think that's what I admire about you, 329 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: because you do you get so locked into a certain 330 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: brand or a certain way people you know, they see 331 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: you and and that's all they see. And you have 332 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: to you have to be willing to take a risk 333 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: and be fearless to a certain point so that they 334 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: can see a different side of you. And so for me, 335 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't get locked into one thing. I always 336 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: would do things that scared me, such as, you know, 337 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: I've never done radio, but unless I've been a guest. 338 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: So when you know, Tom Joyner offered me a regular 339 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: spot on his morning show. It wasn't something I had 340 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: done before, but I said, let me try it. And 341 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: you know, I was joined by Kim Witley and what 342 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: our segment is the most popular for the last four 343 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: years running, so we and they added a second day 344 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: to us being co host on Tom joined his radio show. 345 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: So that was a different side of me that people 346 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: got to see. Hosting a game show is a different 347 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: side of me that people got to see. But it 348 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: required me to say, Okay, I've never hosted before, but 349 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: let me try it. So I think it's and even 350 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: this movie Brian Banks, it's my first dramatic lead in 351 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: a big film. So it required, you know, stepping out 352 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and saying, let me try something 353 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: else so somebody can see a different side. I think, 354 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: unless you you know, commit to taking a risk it 355 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: might not happen as fast. We know the thing about it, because, um, 356 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: first of all, let's let's go back to this. Uh. 357 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: This a single mom segment that you've developed and have 358 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: developed and moved to Kim with a good friend of mine. 359 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: It's really good friend of yours. Um, now that could 360 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: be a podcast. You know, you know you know new 361 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: Sean I see beyond you know, because we all know 362 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: that Thomas retiring from radio at the end of this year. 363 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: So now you have to realize that that brand that 364 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: you two have developed. Uh, if you if you need 365 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: to talk to ra Sean about setting up some sales 366 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: opportunities BRANCHIOND the podcast opportunities, please do because that is 367 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: a market you guys cannot walk away even though that 368 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: show ends your that whole brand is going to develop 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: into is amazing. I'm sure you're already thinking that way 370 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: because you're busy and you all you think about making 371 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: money that day. So know that when I talk to 372 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: the journal public, know that that format that they've created 373 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: you are either here in their own syndicated show or 374 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: you will hear it in a podcast in the future. Okay, 375 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this series and I talked about 376 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: all the time. Let's talk about this series. I read 377 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: it to a couple of weeks ago at the Holly 378 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: Rod Foundations, so she sh I, miss you, I need 379 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I got somebody thinks somebody's happening. 380 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: So I'm sure you and I and all three of 381 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: us will get together here in the near future to 382 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: just just talk about the opportunity, because we are all friends, 383 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: and we all are constantly making transitions in this business. 384 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: Because sometimes this business doesn't offer in the guarantees. And 385 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: I see the business entertainment. Entertainment is something you really 386 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: don't fire security, and you see the opportunity, but the 387 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: opportunity doesn't always mean it's secure. And so let's talk 388 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: about your dramatic acting. Road I saw the movie Brian 389 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Banks him. Let's talk about you know, Octavia spent some 390 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: moments he was happening in the series. You know when 391 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: he came in, when they came to that house and 392 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: took your boy to jail. Let's talk to you about this, Okay, 393 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: you comedic actress, Okay, Yeah, making a shift to a 394 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: dramatic because you you have to be dramatic this whole time. 395 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: You know that you know, being that she's fun, she's 396 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: able to um as a couple of moments where you 397 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: do chuckle because she reaction just as a gifted comedic actress. 398 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: But but but how did you come to this role 399 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: and how did you make the decision? This is what 400 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I want to do. I read the script and I 401 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: said to my agent, I mean I just locked into 402 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Leomi who played Brian Banks's mother, and her face her 403 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: love for her son. At the time, my son, Jeffrey 404 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: was twelve, and I said he could be Brian Banks. 405 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: And I said to my agent, I have to get 406 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: this audition, like I have to do it. And what 407 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 1: worked against me where they really weren't as interested in 408 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: seeing me, was because I have a comedic background. That's 409 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: what people know me for is making them laugh. And 410 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: this was a very heavy um dramatic movie. And so 411 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: I had really had to fight and my agent had 412 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: to fight to get me in. And they had other 413 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: names that they were mentioning. You say Octavia, but they 414 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: were they were. They wanted violent Davis. That was the 415 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: first choice. The second choice was Octavia of da Pinket. Uh. 416 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: They said, halle Berry, I nue ellis who is being 417 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: nominated for when they see us, these are all beasts 418 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: in the dramatic world, and so it was, um, it 419 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: was it was that pressure as well, but you know, 420 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: you have to keep If that's the dream, you have 421 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: to keep going for it, and I keep. My agent 422 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: finally got me an audition, and I'll never forget the 423 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: chastic director said we've expanded the part of the mother 424 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, that's great, and she said, 425 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: because we're trying to get Viola Davis. Do you know 426 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: what pressure that is? Right before you be your auditions. 427 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: They're trying to get Viola and now begin when you're ready. 428 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 1: So um, And that's where I had to remember, literally 429 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: in that audition, because I almost got deflated when I 430 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: heard them say that they wanted Violet Davis. It almost 431 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: sent me like I can't do this. I'm not even worthy. 432 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: And I had to remember, Sherry, you're bringing something you. 433 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: This is you, me is you. You You have a son 434 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: who could be Brian Banks. What would it be like 435 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: if they took Jeffrey from you? And that's when I 436 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: started doing my line. So that was all up underneath me. 437 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna tell y'all felt against the wall, 438 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: sliding down the wall. I was crying. I was screaming. 439 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: I think I scared Lely of Daniel's butler, leave Daniel's 440 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: sister who cast at the movie. It was so emotional 441 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: the audition that when I got into the elevator, I 442 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: still was in a fetal position because I went there 443 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: and because I said, you know what they want Viola. 444 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: I got nothing to lose, but I let me just 445 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: let me just go and do what I do, because 446 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: it's nothing like Viola. And um. I didn't hear from 447 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the people for a few weeks, so I didn't think 448 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: I got it, but I knew I left everything on 449 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: the table, and that's why I think you gotta leave 450 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: everything on the table and go for it. And Tom 451 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Shatti ac Uh just this kidsman. He wrote The Nutty Professor, 452 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: and he's directed Eddie Murphy and tons of movies. He's 453 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: directed Jim Carrey in a lot of movies, and so 454 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: he was used to working with stand up comics. So 455 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: I had a few face time auditions with Tom, and 456 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: I knew that I had gotten a job. When Tom 457 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: said I had to sit on Eddie and I had 458 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: to sit on Jim. I think I'm gonna have to 459 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: sit on you too. And when I say sitting on people, 460 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: it's sitting on the comedic, bringing down the comedy and 461 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: bringing up the other side, the pain side. And you 462 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: know from working with stand up comics are your life. 463 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: We bring to the stage is pain. You take pain 464 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: and you make it funny. So Tom shaddy Ak was 465 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: able to take the funny side of Sherry and put 466 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: it away and then all that was left was the pain. 467 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: And so he was able to bring that out. And 468 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm and you know, it only takes one person to 469 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: believe in you, to say to make it happen. And 470 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: he was that one person for me that said, I 471 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: think she can go beyond the funny. And that's that's 472 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: important that you say that, because you know, when you get, 473 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: when you get, you know, a lot of your early 474 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: success was tied to the view. A lot of my success, 475 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: if you look at my resume, is tied to Steve Hart. 476 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: And no matter people will compliment you the on you great, great, 477 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: but you know something you great in that lane. But 478 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: being out now, the fact that you're doing a tays 479 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: and Brian Banks, this Brian Banks movie is about it 480 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: and consperrated young man who's wrong for them, consperrated sixteen 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: years old, was false accused of rate and spend sixty 482 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: years of his life. He's a very he's a football player, 483 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean not just a football player, five star football player. 484 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: So probably headed to USC Probably would be in the 485 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: pros because I won't give away any of the movie 486 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: because guess what, you got to see the movie realize 487 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: that through determination, through um having the right support system. 488 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: The mom was the key to that, and also the 489 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: legal system and the legal representatives came in and gave 490 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: him the support system. But it's a constant battle. And 491 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: when her character as as as she says, this is 492 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: not you know, just like no different than Kevin Hard 493 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: doing his his hiss, a dramatic role that he did, 494 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: and everybody's portioning that that movie went to a million dollars. Okay, 495 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: and this is your turn to say I can do more. 496 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: And that's what I love about your resume that I 497 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: currently see out there. I see an entrepreneur, I see 498 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: your mom, I see a radio person. Now I see 499 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: drama and that is beautiful because that lets me know 500 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: that your three sixty and I forgot also best selling 501 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: author Okay, that's the three sixty radio print, digital, social 502 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: media influencer. When when I when I throw all these 503 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: accoldes at you, how how do you respond to that 504 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: that you are achieving and currently being blessed with? I 505 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: am very thankful that people uh still want to work 506 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: with me. I think that speaks to character and integrity, um, 507 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: which is crucial in this business. And UM thankful that 508 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: my you know that I have a reputation that's pretty 509 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: solid where people say I would like to take a 510 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: chance with her because I've heard about you know a 511 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: lot of times. It's not who I've met, it's what 512 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: they've heard about me. Well, my friend, uh, you said 513 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it? A money made conversation delivered. We 514 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: deliver again. Congratulations. Check out a new movie. Had first 515 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: dramatic role Brian Banks. But beyond that, he's a wonderful mom. 516 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: You can hear on the radio show every day or 517 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: every weekly twice weekly on the tom Join the Morning 518 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: Show every day at four pm. You can hear see 519 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: her on the Game Show Network again on the Netflix. 520 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: The Iglesias is the Iglziers show which had been renewed. 521 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: She's a wonderful star she's a wonderful person. Keep winning, Okay, Jerry, 522 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: can I tell you I'll bean August. I'll be at 523 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: the Cleveland improv So if you want to see me laugh, 524 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: you want to laugh. See she squeezed that in on me. Okay, 525 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't do all the other stuff, but she squeezed 526 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: that in. Everybody, Keep August. Follow her own social media. 527 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: She's the ball. We we're having coffee and I asked 528 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Jen where we should go on vacation, And I said, 529 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: with our bills, I don't see a vacation happening. Yeah, 530 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: between our credit cards, a washer and stove we bought 531 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: on credit, and that unexpected car pair, Yeah, that wasn't 532 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: in the budget anyway. We agreed to take the week 533 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: to research choices for a fixed rate personal loan that 534 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: would let us consolidate all our bills into one low 535 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: monthly payment and maybe have some left over for vacation. 536 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is we both chose best egg 537 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: dot com right. Best Dagg got five stars on Consumer 538 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: Affairs for their easy online loan app that takes about 539 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: a minute and doesn't impact your credit score. Yeah, and 540 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: we got approved in one business day. We're an amazing 541 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: personal loan. We paid off all our cards and bills 542 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: and still lowered our monthly payment. Yeah, and now we 543 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: saved enough to take a little vacation. Yeah. Get your 544 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: bills under control and your finances back on track at 545 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: best egg dot com slash Life best egg dot com 546 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: slash Life subject to credit approval, actual rates, visa and 547 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: approval times. Very Money Making Conversations is an innovative platform 548 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: that delivers financial literacy to help everyone with their brand success. 549 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: We're good to have a money conversation with the money 550 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: that make money. My next guest there on the phone 551 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: right here, I feel the timely Joe. When the middle 552 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: of summer, when box officers are exploding, that's when they 553 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: really make Summer and Cristmas, and then they have Martin 554 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: Luther King Weekend. Now the spring and March is starting 555 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: to become a money making period too, but the summer 556 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: has always been, you know, the beast of the box office. 557 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: My next guests are in the movie theater business. They're 558 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: the co founders of Next Act Cinema. Movie Theater in 559 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: the Pikes Field is near Bottomore Mary area. Next Act 560 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Centema Theaters Stadium to see me, which I love just 561 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: usually a back to go seat, you know, leather recliners. 562 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Remember the first time I went to the movie here 563 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: the Lettle of Crown, I saw the movie Frozen. Boy, 564 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: that was that was relaxing for me. In full service food, 565 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: which I love to eat, I love. I'm gonna ask 566 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: them do they have desserts because you know, I gotta 567 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: have my dessert when I'm in the movie theater, little 568 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: Sunday or something like that. Please welcome to Money Main 569 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: Conversations the co founders of Next Act Cinema, Anthony Fikes 570 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: and Rob but Right, Hey, thanks so much for having us. 571 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm very good, Thank you for coming 572 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: on the show. Let's just before we didn't get into 573 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: the whole next act. Let's talk about that menu at 574 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: your movie theater. What are you serving? What are you 575 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: serving at the movie theater? And before we go, where 576 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: exactly you located. It's outside the Baltimore, Maryland area, correct, Pikes? Yeah, 577 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: that's that's that's correct. We're actually in Baltimore County writing 578 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: pipes still, so um pretty much right in the middle 579 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: between Bottomore City and Baltimore County was located. Absolutely. Now, 580 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about that menu because you know you're bragg 581 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: about it and I when I go to movie theaters, 582 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: that changed my whole concept when you get a put 583 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: that little button and get some food. So let's talk 584 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: about that menu and what was the concept of putting 585 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: that particular menu to your theater. Yeah. So, so Maryland 586 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: is known for a couple of different um um select cuisines, right, 587 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: and one of the things that Maryland is known for 588 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: is craft and so we we we had to have crab, 589 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: the crab Sandward just some variations of crabs on that menu. 590 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: So we have a crab clout, um platter, we have 591 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: a seafood um, a balstore club that's kind of a 592 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: mix of like crab, meat, trimp and everything you know 593 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: that goes in between. Um and now when those those 594 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: menis are inspired really by the restaurant that we kind 595 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: of partner with as well. And so um Crab is 596 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: a staple and we know you're the pie guy, So 597 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: any inspiration that you have to help us out on 598 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the dessert side, definitely give us a feedback. I'm coming 599 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: down there, man, and this is your place because like 600 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: I I'm always going up because I'll go to d 601 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: C every week, and I got officers up in uh talent, 602 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: let's give be talent represent the New York area. So 603 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: definitely we're going to connect after this call. So I 604 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: like to experience people to share some of some of 605 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: my advice when I go to there to their businesses. 606 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: You know that that I feel that can be relatable 607 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: and make you even more successful. Now we're talking about 608 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: the movie theater. Now, the box office pats came out 609 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. They're saying that the box officers six percent 610 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: down from last year, which is always These numbers are 611 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: way incredible out there. So how does the box officer 612 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: of the week the week box office? How do you 613 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: plan for the movies they come to your theater? And 614 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: before I say that, tell us what's in your theater 615 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: right now this weekend? What box What movies are playing 616 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: in your theater this weekend? So Sean, internently, we have 617 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: um Hobbin shaw um, and we also have Brian Banks. Okay, cool, 618 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: Now what made the selection of those movies? So I 619 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: think you know, when we're making those decisions, we're looking 620 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: to see what movies are coming out, and we're also 621 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: taking into consideration our audience. Right, Um, So for example, 622 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: you know Lion King. Um, Tony, Now, we had a 623 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: conversation like Rob, Rob and Tony do do we get 624 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: Lion King? Because it's it's really a kids movie. But 625 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Tony said, you know, Rob, I think everybody kind of 626 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: wants to see Lion King. And he was absolutely right because, 627 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: like one of our policies is at the seven PM 628 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: there's no one under the age of anyone, right, we're 629 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: really trying to cater to that date night adults type 630 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: of atmosphere and things of that nature. Um, but that's 631 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: pretty much like how we're making those decisions around which movies. Um, 632 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna select. Now here's I'm going down to 633 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: domestic box office so far this year. The number one movie, 634 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: of course is Avengers End Game Beast almost a billion 635 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: dollars in sales. The second one domestically The Line King 636 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: almost five hundred, you know, million dollars in box office. 637 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: Seat that's in that's in the United States. Then you 638 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: have Captain Marvels number three, tars Story number four, he 639 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: has Spider Man number five, and The Laddin is number six. 640 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: These are all Disney movies, right right, right, Yeah, So 641 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: I think and earlier when we kind of explored, you know, 642 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: what movies we were going to get. We also, um, 643 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: you have to be willing to be extremely disciplined on 644 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: which which movies. And that's just in business in general, right. 645 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: You know, you can experiment, but you have to be 646 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: highly disciplined. And so for us, you know, we wanted 647 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that thinks to Robert's point, Um, we 648 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: needed to cater to our audience. And that's kind of 649 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: how we select these movies. I mean, you have these 650 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: these domestic box office ticket sales that are doing well, 651 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I think, especially in the early part of the year, 652 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: especially like for example, with US coming out, US did 653 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: extremely well at our theater. We also did, you know, 654 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: obviously The Avengers and Lion King. But then you know 655 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: there's other movies as well that that perform well. For example, 656 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Shaft did extremely well with US is um and resonated 657 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: with our audience. So so we're pretty disciplined when we 658 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, every week when we try to select some 659 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: of these movies, sometimes you know, you don't necessarily get 660 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: it right, especially because you know we're we're still kind 661 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: of new in this game. Um, but you know, we learn, 662 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: we learned each and every month kind of how we 663 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: select our our our choices. We try to look at, 664 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: you know, what's gonna trend well with our audience, in 665 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: addition to what we think will perform well depending point 666 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, which actor and the actresses are in certain movies. 667 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: So it's a couple of different metrics that we look 668 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: at when we consider what we're gonna launch. It really 669 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: is because im in fifteen years in Los Angeles, a 670 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Magic Johnson, when he launched the 671 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: Magic Johnson theaters, you know, the hill the same thing. 672 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, his his menu was a little bit diffrecated 673 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: to that audience. The movies that he came were more 674 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: catered to the audience appeal. And but one thing he 675 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: always sold what you sell, you know, quality of service, 676 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: cleaningness because you know, we gotta be real a lot 677 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: of things. When you launched into an African American audience, 678 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: sometimes the facilities aren't up to the standards of the 679 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: general market, and it really is disappointing when a person 680 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: like me would come in and go, wow, why the 681 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: bathrooms are right, and you sell the fact that our 682 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: menus outstanding, our facility looks, you know, nice chairs, the stadium, 683 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: CD you're selling your brand and say, hey, we're on 684 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: par with the general market theaters that you go out 685 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: to come to us because you're you will get the 686 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: same level of entertainment expectations on the big screen as 687 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: well as the confort as well as the food. That's 688 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: a really big selling point for you guys that you 689 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: and that's why I brought you on the show to 690 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: talk about the business side of selling your brand in 691 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: this very competitive movie theater market. Yeah, yeah, no, I 692 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: think I think to your point to you know, it 693 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: was extremely important for Robin and when we launched this 694 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: to remember that with any organization, you personally have to 695 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: be held accountable for the decisions that you make as 696 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 1: well as for your people. Right. So, you know, any 697 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: good leader or manager obviously you know, UM encourage his 698 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: accountability and the things that we do, you know, when 699 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: we're even when we're you know here UM and we'll 700 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: talking to our staff, we make sure that we are 701 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: part of the team. Right. So it's not that you know, 702 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: we try to lead from you know, necessarily you know, 703 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: behind the podium, right, we leave from the side, and 704 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: we encourage them to constantly make sure that we're catering 705 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: to our guests always and that's from as soon as 706 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: they walk in the door, they get greeted. As soon 707 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: as they you're ready to go into the theater, they 708 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: get the the door held open for them. And let's 709 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: talk about you going into the fall, going into the 710 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: Christmas what movies do we can we expect to see 711 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: our projecting to be uh brought to your theater uh 712 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: in the fall and also that that that amazing Christmas 713 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: run that you have to do. What movies are we 714 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: looking at? So so we're actually and and rocking us 715 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: also talking on this. We also are now I can 716 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: thinking about kind of what are the next election is 717 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: going to be, right because there's a there's also a 718 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: period of time right when a lot of movie theaters 719 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: there's not a big blockbuster that's gonna launch, and so 720 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: we have to be very thoughtful in how do we 721 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: prepare for those times And so we're thinking about different 722 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: you know, everything that's happened around Baltimore. For example, right now, 723 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: one of the things that we're trying to do this 724 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: launched kind of a week or two of like Baltimore 725 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: based movies, absolutely Baltimore based actresses and actors for example, 726 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett Smith right, um, and so you know we're 727 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: going to make a theme it around kind of Baltimore proud, 728 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: right and then in the in the in the lot 729 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: of part of the month. I mean, the one movie 730 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: that we cannot wait to get is Harriet, for example, 731 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: because we know that that's going to resonate with our 732 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: audience as well as the message behind it. So and 733 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: Rob can speak a little bit more about, you know, 734 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: other options that we're that we're considering. So Star Wars 735 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: is coming out in UM around the Cristians Holiday. UM. 736 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: I would imagine that's going to be another blockbuster. It's 737 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: going to probably be added to that list that you 738 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: kind of went down one of the top movies that's 739 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: going to be out for this UM for this year, 740 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: you know. And then you um, you also have a 741 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: lot of other African American movies that are coming out 742 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: with American UM, African American actors that are gonna be 743 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,959 Speaker 1: um be in and we're definitely targeting those those movies 744 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: as well. Well. That's important. Like the Harriet's talking about 745 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: the movie Harriet Tubman that's coming out. I definitely will 746 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: uh you know, I tell you what we're gonna do. 747 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: We're going to create relationship because important movies like that, 748 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: I want to use my national bars. In fact, I'm 749 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: syndicating this show and it's probably is going to be 750 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: coming on in Baltimore in the fall to be able 751 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: to bring you guys on regular because I know what 752 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. You're trying to build your brand, 753 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: promote your brand. And the way you get there is 754 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: why through relationships. And consider my relationships. As you know, 755 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: as I talk, I understand what you're going through. You 756 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: know you can't bring every movie there. You know you 757 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: can't bring Frozen there. You might not get the reactually, 758 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta empty theater. Even though Frozen 759 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: gonna make it's gonna make a billion dollars, but it 760 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: might not make a billion dollars at your theater. And 761 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: so you have to be small. You have to be 762 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: able to, like you said, get the local local. First 763 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: of all, you have to make your their awareness to 764 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: the local community that you're there. What better way to 765 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: do that by featuring local successful or Baltimore or residents 766 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: who are now thriving in the movie and television industry. 767 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: That's smart because you gotta be able to have a base, 768 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: and the base has to know you exist. And so 769 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing right now. Because the thing about 770 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: it you you you you you went to the bank. 771 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: The bank said, no, what they generally do because you know, 772 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: you put out a business mall. They look at you 773 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: and they go, okay, tree, black dude about to open 774 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: a movie theater. Okay, okay, uh key, you keep back 775 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: with us next year. And and it's in it's tragic. 776 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: It's tragic, you know. And and that because of the 777 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: fact that because of the fact that it's not enough 778 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: of us out there to say that this model will 779 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: work and I have the expertise to do it. Don't 780 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: look at my background, don't look at my color, look 781 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: at my plan, and look at the fact that my my, 782 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: my experience, this is what I do. And so that's 783 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: why then you know that when when that you're probably 784 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: gonna talk to me maybe a couple of times on 785 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: this show. Each time, the goal is to promote your brand. 786 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: Each time is to localize your brand, because in the end, 787 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, people are hearing this show in Los Angeles, 788 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: hearing the show in Chicago. It's important that they're here 789 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: to show where they can drive through your movie theater. 790 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I really appreciate what you're doing. 791 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: And well, I just want to say this one thing 792 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: about this the trade off of what you joined. What 793 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: will tell anybody who's listening, what's separate you from the 794 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: normal movie theater experience. UM. I think it's one of 795 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: the things that that that you talked about is that 796 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: customer service based. I mean, that's one of the things 797 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: that we're always driving home with our employees. And the 798 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: good thing is we're seeing it interviews, Like if you've 799 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: read some of the reviews, a lot of them are 800 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: talking about the level of customer service that we're giving. Yeah, 801 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 1: we we we serve food, we have for reclining seats, um, 802 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: you know, nice picture quality. But they're also noticing, you know, 803 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: the effort that we're putting into into customer service. And 804 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: also I like the fact you said rushan A's after 805 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: seven o'clock is an adult couple driven theater, because the 806 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: worst day in the world be sitting over there and 807 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: join the theory and go, oh my god, Okay, what 808 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: why are you in here watching us with your four 809 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: year old kids? What's going on? The kids, trauma, Tiz, 810 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: but with a great thing. Now we're about to wrap 811 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: up the end ofview a fellas you here, This is 812 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: Roshan McDonald. You got a home. I'm here to promote 813 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: you guys, your brands fantastic and know that this journey 814 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: will not be alone. Rashan McDonald's on your team. That 815 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: we were having coffee and I asked Jen where we 816 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 1: should go on vacation, and I said, with our bills, 817 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't see a vacation happening. Yeah, between our credit cards, 818 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: a washer and stove we bought on credit, and that 819 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: unexpected car repair, Yeah, that wasn't in the budget anyway, 820 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: we agreed to take the week to research choices for 821 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: a fixed rate personal loan that would let us consolidate 822 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: all our bills into one low monthly payment and maybe 823 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: have some left over for vacation. And the crazy thing 824 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: is we both chose best egg dot com right best 825 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: Day got five stars on Consumer Affairs for their easy 826 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: online loan app that takes about a minute and doesn't 827 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: impact your credits. Yeah, and we got approved in one 828 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: business day. We're an amazing personal loan. We paid off 829 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: all our cards and bills and still lowered our monthly 830 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: payment and now we save it enough to take a 831 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: little vacation. Yeah. Get your bills under control and your 832 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: finances back on track at best egg dot com slash 833 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: life best egg dot com slash Life subject to credit approval, 834 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 1: actual rates, piece and approval times. Very Welcome to money 835 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: making conversation. I'm your host, Rushan McDonald. My next guest 836 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: is on the phone, and my next guest is awesome. Um, 837 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: I've been watching them a long time. That's why I'm 838 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: happy to have a Moon's show. When you you watched 839 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: people see, I've been doing television in Hollywood's Naty too, 840 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: so I've I've been able to see a lot of 841 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: talent grow, a lot of top to be able to 842 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: cast talent and movies and sitcoms and things like that. 843 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: It's one of the young people that I missed as 844 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: far as being able to work with. So having him 845 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: on the phone today is really a blessing. His television 846 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: and film credits include Turned, Friday Night Lights, Supernatural, The 847 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: Walking Dead, The Blacklist, City of Angels, Own c S, 848 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: I e Er, Charm, Boston, Public Leverage. Everybody saw him 849 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: on T and T. That's why I really saw this bug. 850 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: He clock and checks now Underground w g N. That 851 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: show should still be on on w g N Hidden Figures, 852 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: City on the Hill. He now plays the title character 853 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: on the movie. I just saw it last week at 854 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: a at a screening in Atlanta, Georgia called the Brian 855 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: Banks movie has been It's being promoted heavily everywhere. Please 856 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: welcome to money making conversations. All this hodge. How are 857 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: you doing? Okay, go come with that board? How are 858 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: you doing? How are you doing this? Sir? It's really 859 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: good watching your career. Man. Just just grow when you 860 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: when you when you We're gonna talk about the movie. 861 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the testament of what 862 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: it takes to continually work as consistently as you work. 863 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: Can you give any of my listeners some advice or 864 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: some pointers on what you do to continually reach your dreams? 865 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: And I would tell people you always reaching every day. 866 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: I walk out of the house every day with a 867 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: new goal. Cool. Can you can you? Can you share 868 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: some I'll try to drop this quickly because I can 869 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: go off forever on this stuffs go forever important. I've 870 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: been in this business for thirty years, so where people 871 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: are possibly discovering me now. They don't realize that it 872 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: takes years of sacrifice and dedication to get to this place. 873 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: Wherever you're building up different canid opportunities, and it all 874 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: is sort of based on your preparation. You know, a 875 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: lot of people get opportunities come their way, but they 876 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: may not be prepared to handle it, so may pass by, 877 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: or they may squander the actual opportunity. So you have 878 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: to understand who you are and what you want out 879 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: of it. Um when it comes to being an actor, 880 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: I tell people all the time forget trying to be famous, 881 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: trying to get money, and if that's what you want, 882 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: go do something else. If you want to be an actor, entertainment, 883 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: anything you want to do as a real artist at 884 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 1: your craft, you should always seek to put more into 885 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: it than you get out of it because at the 886 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, you'll get something out of it. Now, 887 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 1: granted you can do a movie, you can get twenty 888 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: million dollars, you should put fifty million dollars worth of 889 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: value into that film because what's gonna be on that 890 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: film is gonna last forever. People will always watch your 891 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: legacy and be able to learn from it. You should 892 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 1: want to continue to grow and elevate, and for me, 893 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: I stand over the place of trying to do effective art. Hence, 894 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: you know projects like on the Ground and Brian Banks 895 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 1: I hate and figure it's like this is effective art 896 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: that moves to culture in a different way because it 897 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: shows and exhibits the beauty of black people, of black 898 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: culture and just people in general to a degree of 899 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: normal sing and gives us a voice in a different way. Now, 900 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: like I said, I've been doing this thirty years. I 901 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: have a firm foundation with my family, my mom, my brother, 902 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: and my sister that helps immensely, especially in the dark 903 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 1: times when the business is telling you you're not enough. 904 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: I've been in rooms before as a child where you know, 905 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: I've been twenty years old and audition with it like hey, 906 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: you're not black enough. I'm like, what does that mean? 907 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: You have to fully know your value when you're challenging 908 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: a business like this that wants to strip everything about 909 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: you away and replace it with something artificial. You have 910 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: to demand attention for who and what you are and 911 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: maintain everything that makes you special, which is already there. 912 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: You don't have to fabricate it, but understand what your 913 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: goal is you know, what kind of projects do you 914 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: want to be a part of them? And why? You know? Really, 915 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: the big question is why, why do you want to 916 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: be here? Why do you want to do this? And 917 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: are you prepared to make the sacrifice. There are times 918 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: where I didn't work for months on end, almost a 919 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: whole year, or times where I got fired for real, 920 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: really awkward reasons like being uh to too popular character 921 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: on the show. Um. But you can't let that beat 922 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: you down because you know your why. It's substantial. Your 923 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: why is what's going to carry you through, and a 924 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: good reputation. Treat everyone with fairness along the way is 925 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: what kind of pushes you down longevity because people will 926 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: understand that, they will notice that. They will then also 927 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: respect that they don't want to work yet. So understand 928 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: why you're doing it, what you want to get out 929 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: of it, Understand what you're trying to put into it, 930 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: and keep yourself level headed and always hungry. You know, 931 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: as an artist, the moment you become complacent or stop moving, 932 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 1: you die. Your art dies because you think, well, there's 933 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: no more room to grow. There's always room to grow, 934 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: always something new to learn, So always be a humble 935 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: student of the craft at all times. You can learn 936 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: so much from a producer, from a director, you can 937 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: also learn a lot from a background artist. Uh. You 938 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: just have to be open and humble about how you 939 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 1: approach everybody's positioning with respect. It's powerful, my friend, because 940 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 1: the person who's who's been in a position to do 941 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: the things you've done, the humble part really leads to 942 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: your greatness. And a lot of people understand that. And 943 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: the thing about when I was watching the movie, a 944 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 1: little history about me and this project Brian Banks project, 945 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: is that civil rights attorney Benjamin Cruff and I several 946 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: years ago, was doing this TV show called u UH 947 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: for TV Wonder that aired and we reached out to 948 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: the Brian Banks people and he said, no, we got 949 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: a movie project we're working on. We won't do your 950 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: TV show. Okay, cool, so fast, you know as fast 951 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: forward and you know fast. So I knew it a 952 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: little bit about this history because the TV show is 953 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: about wrongfully incarcerated people, you know, and uh, people have 954 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,320 Speaker 1: been in jail for no reason at all got out 955 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: some sometimes they gotta check, sometimes they just gotta I'm sorry, okay. 956 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,319 Speaker 1: And when I was when I was invited to see 957 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: this movie, so that was a kind of a personal 958 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: history to the movie. When I sat down, I was 959 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: and I was overjoyed to know that you were the 960 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: lead character in it. Now absolutely, you know, because because 961 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down there and looking at them arms and 962 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, now he's been in the gym 963 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: doing his thing. You know, it would be authentic and everything. 964 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: So to me about the preparation. And then I didn't 965 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: get a chance to physically meet Brian, but he did 966 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: come out and talk a little bit about it, so 967 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: I know that to overcome incarceration and and some of 968 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,919 Speaker 1: this and some of the plot storytelling of his dream 969 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: kept getting knocked back, knocked back, knocked back, knocked back. 970 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: How did you How were you able to sustain the 971 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: reality and bring it or make it authentic to his 972 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,719 Speaker 1: situation and bring it on the screen. That made me 973 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: not only cheer for the results even though I knew 974 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: the results, I still a cheer for the results in 975 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: the outcome. Thank you. Um well, it was really just Brian. 976 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 1: He was every day. Um We talked every day, We 977 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: were at the gym most days, trained for about a month, 978 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: almost every single day before even got down the set 979 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: start shooting, and uh, you know, we were with each 980 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: other every single day throughout the shooting and you know, talking, kicking, 981 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 1: hanging out before every scene. I would talking him about 982 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: the scenario and asked me where his mindset was as 983 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: he went through it. And he was just brave and 984 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: vulnerable enough to go back down that dark road, that 985 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: dark memory road, memory laying I mean to take me 986 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: through it, and just being able to observe him and 987 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: pull the honesty out of him. It's what I wanted 988 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: to transform your own screen because I'm not playing a 989 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: character or a characulture of him. It's a really thing, 990 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 1: my interpretation of him. But I want to give the 991 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: audience the vision of him that's most honest, given what 992 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: I've seen from him personally, what he's shown me, what 993 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: I've seen of him, asked he's interacted with other people. 994 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: There's a light there, there's a a positivity there. There's 995 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: a different sort of strengthen there that comes from having 996 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: been through something and coming through the other side of impossibility. 997 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: That that's hard to fabricate if you don't understand struggle. 998 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: So we just had a lot of fellowship. Man and 999 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 1: I was lucky because of the fact that he was 1000 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: right there and I really didn't have to figure it out, 1001 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: uh too much, that he was just available, you know, 1002 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 1: a sound board, and you know we connected on hardships 1003 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: that we both went through in our lives. That's kind 1004 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: of where we found synergy, you know, in our mindsets 1005 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: to how to try to deal with things. You know, 1006 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: whenever we're attacked, we feel as a whole I think 1007 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,879 Speaker 1: we feel it as as a whole culture. So it's 1008 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: easy to happen to that thing because we see it 1009 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,759 Speaker 1: all too often. And when it came to that, it 1010 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: was just the idea of yet again, because of what 1011 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: I am, everything that I am, everything that makes me 1012 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: naturally beautiful, it makes me meet, is being taken away 1013 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 1: simply because the world that I live in needs me, 1014 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: warrants me to be less than the world that I'm 1015 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: living in. I'm not saying that everybody and is what 1016 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. 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