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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen. We still have came bother when us here.
Speaker 4: We're doing episode six fifteen, and unlike when we had
Speaker 4: her on the show during the strike, she's able to
Speaker 4: tell us exactly what she thinks about the storylines.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, honey, Thanks guys, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1: It's so fun to hang and to be able to
Speaker 1: actually chat about the show and stuff. So fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're using code language last time.
Speaker 4: So it's great. Now you get to tell us what
Speaker 4: you think of all the love triangles and like who
Speaker 4: is a dick on set? All the fun.
Speaker 1: Ooh, all kinds of tea.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was we change We wait. It aired January nineteenth,
Speaker 4: of two thousand and nine. Do you want to read
Speaker 4: the synopsis?
Speaker 1: Kate me sure? Synopsis of six fifteen We Change We
Speaker 1: Wait is Lucas and Julian's struggle to choose a director
Speaker 1: for their movie. Well, Peyton has mixed feelings about a
Speaker 1: surprise gift from Lucas, Brook struggles with issues about her
Speaker 1: relationship with Julian, and Mia finally feels inspired by Chase.
Speaker 4: Oh Love It.
Speaker 1: Directed by Les Butler, writer John A. Norris, dream team,
Speaker 1: good stuff.
Speaker 5: Dream team. We had such such good eggs on this one.
Speaker 4: I don't know. They had some interested lines in this episode.
Speaker 1: Yea, oh my god, there were some lines that you
Speaker 1: were like, this is this aired in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 4: This is exposition. Yeah, I just love at the top
Speaker 4: of the episode, like Peyton found out she was pregnant
Speaker 4: a couple episodes ago, and I call bebopping in the kitchen, like, hey,
Speaker 4: what's going on with you? I mean, besides having a
Speaker 4: pregnant fiance, so good, what's on your mind? That's how
Speaker 4: Jeff and I talk at home. I don't know about
Speaker 4: you guys and your partners, but oh.
Speaker 5: For sure, Yeah, that feels totally natural and exactly the
Speaker 5: way you'd speak to someone you live with.
Speaker 1: That's how I would drop the news. I think if
Speaker 1: I ever got pregnant to Brett, Like that would be
Speaker 1: how I would tell them the first time, you know,
Speaker 1: like just I'm gonna I'm gonna co opt that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if that ever happens, you know, that's gonna be my uh,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be my go to so.
Speaker 4: Funny in your back pocket? How much of the show
Speaker 4: had you seen before you joined?
Speaker 1: Okay, real talk, I had never seen an episode when
Speaker 1: I auditioned because I was on the road, so I
Speaker 1: was like, I was in college and I just didn't
Speaker 1: watch that much TV. I was like, I was a
Speaker 1: an art school student, so I was like super busy
Speaker 1: doing that, and then I was doing a bunch of work,
Speaker 1: like you know, signing a record deal, doing all this,
Speaker 1: so I didn't ever for I knew the show obviously,
Speaker 1: but I'd never seen it when I auditioned, So probably
Speaker 1: another reason I wasn't nervous. I was like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then I got the part and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is season five of a show that
Speaker 1: like is it? Because then I started telling people like
Speaker 1: and people were like, dude, like that's the best show ever,
Speaker 1: Like what do you think is gonna happen with like
Speaker 1: Nathan and you know Lucas, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I gotta like do some research. So I
Speaker 1: got like the DVDs on my tour bus. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I and and I was like, okay, I'll watch like
Speaker 1: a couple of the first season to like get you
Speaker 1: know whatever, acquainted. And then I would be like in
Speaker 1: my bunk like three hours watching that. And my band
Speaker 1: was like, uh, I think that you like really like
Speaker 1: this show. And I was like, it's really easy to watch.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.
Speaker 1: There's some drama going on right now with like Nathan
Speaker 1: and Hayley, and I just gotta know what happened, so
Speaker 1: I'll see you guys in a few hours. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I had not seen any of it. But so I
Speaker 1: had watched the first four seasons when I started in
Speaker 1: season five, so I wasn't because I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't come in here like not knowing what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's like lame. You know, I do my homework, you know.
Speaker 4: Wait, So were you like a Brook Lucas fan or
Speaker 4: a Peyton Lucas fan. Where was your loyalty come?
Speaker 1: In?
Speaker 4: Goodness, because we're doing a docy dough in this episode,
Speaker 4: like everyone has switched boyfriends at this point. Do I
Speaker 4: think it's relevant? It's relevant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dope, right because Julian had dated Hayton
Speaker 1: right exactly, and Julian's working on the movie.
Speaker 4: And chase A dated Brook Baby, and chase A.
Speaker 1: Dated Brook, which MEA has a very hard time with,
Speaker 1: you know for sure. But I don't know that I
Speaker 1: had an allegiance necessarily. I think I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of was like, Okay, I get it,
Speaker 1: like it's a you know, it's a vibe of I
Speaker 1: think I mean to be totally on. I was like,
Speaker 1: is there like, what's like, is there going to be
Speaker 1: a romantic thing for them? I'm gonna have to like
Speaker 1: what that's gonna be interesting?
Speaker 4: Why I have to kiss one of these people?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And guys, this is god, I don't even know whatever?
Speaker 1: Who cares. The first day that I came to set,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even working yet on set. I was just
Speaker 1: coming to see set in Wilmington. They dyed my hair
Speaker 1: black and I was coming to take a tour the set,
Speaker 1: and a certain person in leadership on the show told me.
Speaker 1: The first thing that person told me when I was
Speaker 1: visiting set. Was that my first scene and I hadn't
Speaker 1: gotten a script yet was going to be a makeout
Speaker 1: with a character named Max, the record store guy.
Speaker 4: So I was like, hell, what, yeah? That was?
Speaker 1: That was my welcome on this show.
Speaker 4: It's like bad enough to think that you're gonna have
Speaker 4: to kiss one of these boys that's like a heart
Speaker 4: throb on TV or whatever, but that's our And.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who that was. I didn't know who
Speaker 1: that was because I hadn't finished. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just maybe I hadn't seen the whole show yet.
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen but I did not know who this
Speaker 1: character was, and so I was like, Okay, that makes sense,
Speaker 1: like someone works at a record store or whatever.
Speaker 4: My character like someone our age.
Speaker 1: Yes. So I text my mom when I get back
Speaker 1: to the roof a few sweets and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: guess they'd like a makeout with like a guy named
Speaker 1: like some Max, like whatever. And my mom calls me
Speaker 1: and she's like, uh, who told you this? Because I
Speaker 1: think that's actually your boss man like yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was like, I swear to god, I was like, what
Speaker 1: have I gotten myself into? It was like and it
Speaker 1: it took like days, like there was never a follow
Speaker 1: up of like just kidding, right.
Speaker 4: No one clarified anything for it.
Speaker 1: No, it just I just kept getting scripts and I
Speaker 1: kept not having makeout scenes with Max the record store guy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, oh, I think weren't gonna clear.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that was first.
Speaker 4: Day maybe no, and like and why wouldn't you believe
Speaker 4: that because you're watching the box set of the show
Speaker 4: and everybody's kissing everybody, like Brook's hooking up with teachers
Speaker 4: and you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I was less concerned about like
Speaker 1: who should Lucas be with, and I was more like,
Speaker 1: can I dodge Max the record store guy? Or is
Speaker 1: this simply yeah? Anyways, not to take it to a
Speaker 1: dark place. But that was the making out is is it?
Speaker 1: You know, that's a that's a that's a hallmark part
Speaker 1: of a of a teen drama show, making out, making out.
Speaker 1: It's great, you know, just just yeah. So anyways, it
Speaker 1: turned out a lot better Stephen Cloudy, much better.
Speaker 4: Pick Had you ever kissed anyone on TV? Like, had
Speaker 4: you had to do that for music videos? Yet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Not on TV? I hadn't. No. At the time of
Speaker 1: this airing. I hadn't made I had a music video
Speaker 1: where I made a cuff fabulous stancer and yeah, sweet guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was in my music video for a song
Speaker 1: called ninety nine Times, but that was after this episode aired.
Speaker 1: So no, I had not you know, I had been
Speaker 1: to college, I had been on tour buses. I had
Speaker 1: made out with a few gentlemen, but I had not
Speaker 1: done it in front of people on TV and guys
Speaker 1: like it is one of those things where you don't
Speaker 1: think about how to look. Yeah, certainly not with any
Speaker 1: of my bosses. I never had, you know. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: oh my god. But yeah, like a lot, a lot
Speaker 1: to process, a lot to unpack.
Speaker 5: There, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And there wasn't like an executive you could call the
Speaker 4: double check to be like, hey, just to be clear here,
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like who's who's the person who's like And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh.
Speaker 4: Wait, who's the woman that we could talk to?
Speaker 5: We're those women now?
Speaker 4: Yeah damn it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh thank god.
Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm glad that you got chased out of
Speaker 4: the deal because he indeed.
Speaker 1: Indeed, yeah, sweet, things things worked out. It was great.
Speaker 5: Okay, Wait, so I have a question for you. Because
Speaker 5: again to your point, every character on our show kissed.
Speaker 5: Every character on our show, much like being in any
Speaker 5: small town in real life for sure. Or by the way,
Speaker 5: I've even discovered some big ones. Torri and I were
Speaker 5: together this past weekend at a thing in Chicago, and
Speaker 5: she was filling in on all this tea there and
Speaker 5: I was like, wait, who did what with?
Speaker 4: Who's what what?
Speaker 5: And I just was like, God, sets are just they're
Speaker 5: just sets, man, they just can't.
Speaker 4: Held up them.
Speaker 1: It's the show, you know, like that, that's the show,
Speaker 1: for sure. I know someone needs to write that show
Speaker 1: like not a reality show.
Speaker 5: But I back in I guess would it have been
Speaker 5: season four? I guess it was season four And Brooke
Speaker 5: and Chase seeing each other.
Speaker 1: Before I got there, and Steven Coletti had.
Speaker 5: Never kissed anyone on camera, and was like, oh, terrified
Speaker 5: because you know, he had done a reality show but
Speaker 5: he hadn't Like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Like a makeout vibe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, and we had to like really
Speaker 5: act and it wasn't like, hey, kids, here's what you
Speaker 5: need to do tonight and go get drunk at this
Speaker 5: party and we'll film you and see what happens. It
Speaker 5: was like you're in this professional place and you have
Speaker 5: to know where to put your face so you don't
Speaker 5: block the other actor's light and do the thing. And
Speaker 5: it was so sweet to like be his teammate and
Speaker 5: friend and also be like, this is what it means
Speaker 5: when they say like hit a mark and this is
Speaker 5: how you cheat this, and you know, we got through it. Tongue,
Speaker 5: no tongue, We got through it together. So what was
Speaker 5: it like to sort of experience the inverse because he
Speaker 5: was your first on screen boyfriend, Like, did he get
Speaker 5: like what's the inside scoop? Did he give you tips?
Speaker 5: Was he helping you feel like not nervous about how
Speaker 5: to make something look real but also make it work
Speaker 5: for camera? Like do you remember any of that? Camaraderie
Speaker 5: so interesting?
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely camaraderie for sure. I think I just felt
Speaker 1: really comfortable with him because he just reminded me of
Speaker 1: like a buddy that you know, he reminded me of
Speaker 1: like the good guys in my band that I loved
Speaker 1: touring with. Like he was just fun. Stephen. We just
Speaker 1: hit it off and like we were friends and he
Speaker 1: was super cool and I loved his girlfriend at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like we're just buddies. So that
Speaker 1: helped a lot. I don't remember, like I'm so like
Speaker 1: people are surprised because I like sing songs on stage
Speaker 1: for a living in front of a bunch of people.
Speaker 1: But I'm like a very introverted person, and I was
Speaker 1: even more so back then, Like I'm very much like
Speaker 1: and so I don't even know if I like felt
Speaker 1: comfortable asking like for tips. I was like, I gotta
Speaker 1: just I gotta just wing it and seem like I
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I was probably afraid to seem like I didn't know how,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I was definitely the whole time, I'm like,
Speaker 1: am I smoshing my nose weird? Like this probably looks bad?
Speaker 1: Am I in his light? Like always was so like
Speaker 1: because that's a different that's a different thing that you
Speaker 1: have to learn. That's not really a thing, and you know,
Speaker 1: performing on stage, getting in other people's light. And so
Speaker 1: he helped me navigated, I think, just by being a
Speaker 1: good friend and like being a pro and you know,
Speaker 1: we did have good enough chemistry as buddies that like
Speaker 1: it wasn't weird to be like, oh, now we're making
Speaker 1: out and our characters are dating, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was like always it always felt easy, which I
Speaker 1: think was like so by way of that, it helped
Speaker 1: me be like, oh cool this is you know. But
Speaker 1: then of course when you watch it back, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, why did I meet that face?
Speaker 4: Or you know what I mean, like, oh my god, no, listen.
Speaker 4: What I like so much about the Mia Chase storyline
Speaker 4: is that so often we see guys on TV or
Speaker 4: in real life or on the internet now being like
Speaker 4: you have to wait a couple days to call a
Speaker 4: girl and you got to play a pool and you
Speaker 4: and there's a reward in being withholding and Chase does
Speaker 4: not withhold anything. He out of the gates is a puppy.
Speaker 4: And it's just like, God, she's so cool. I like
Speaker 4: her a lot, and I'm gonna tell her to her
Speaker 4: face and also just like pop in all the time.
Speaker 1: Totally, No, it was really cute. Yeah, I too, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. So just it's just absolutely it's so JV.
Speaker 1: You know, you're just like, come on, now, that's not
Speaker 1: how she's creel men are. Yeah. No, totally, it was
Speaker 1: a great. It was a very cute storyline and you know, uh,
Speaker 1: that was that was fun because that was another thing
Speaker 1: like with my being my first acting job, I was like,
Speaker 1: what if my character's in soul like that, then you
Speaker 1: just have to do that and you have to own
Speaker 1: that and play that and convey that, right, you know.
Speaker 1: But it was nice that it was a cute storyline,
Speaker 1: you know, and they liked each other and that it
Speaker 1: you know, that we kind of sold it.
Speaker 4: That was cool. How much did you know going in,
Speaker 4: Like what did they tell you was gonna be your arc?
Speaker 1: I mean making out with Max the record store.
Speaker 4: Guy was the honey, no, my skin is.
Speaker 1: Crawling, right, I know. I'm sorry. So I should have
Speaker 1: like come with a trigger warning, especially for y'all because
Speaker 1: I know you just know this, like oh my god.
Speaker 4: No, we lived it, babe, and it was like if
Speaker 4: we're just big enough bitches, it'll stop. And no, it
Speaker 4: just like got passed down.
Speaker 1: There was no force that could have Yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: you don't know anything. I don't know about maybe. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys were like the stars of the show, so
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe there's like a bit of a
Speaker 1: you know, sort of a preview or like a story arc.
Speaker 1: I had no idea what was going to happen with
Speaker 1: my character until I got the script under my door
Speaker 1: at the Hilton and no, okay, Yeah, so I figured
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, okay, I guess it's just
Speaker 1: gonna we're just seeing what happens here. And so every
Speaker 1: time I was hired to to do another episode because
Speaker 1: I think it was supposed to be a one episode
Speaker 1: and then it was supposed to be like a four
Speaker 1: episode arc, and then I just kept Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: so grateful to be there, you know, despite all the
Speaker 1: crazy shit going on. But but yeah, so it was
Speaker 1: like every time, every every week it is a surprise
Speaker 1: and you're like, like, who knows, you know, but really
Speaker 1: fun surprise to have that.
Speaker 4: Were you a basketball fan going into this, because that's
Speaker 4: how this episode kicks off. We got a lot of
Speaker 4: Nathan Scott basketball. Did you go well, no, you said
Speaker 4: you went to art school. You didn't go to a
Speaker 4: sports school.
Speaker 1: No, we weren't that good at sports. I went to
Speaker 1: Miami of Ohio, which is it's a great school, but
Speaker 1: it's you know, I think, like I think we were
Speaker 1: good at hockey or something, but nothing really basketball. Though
Speaker 1: I was a fan, because I mean, this was kind
Speaker 1: of after the show ended that the Cavs won, you know,
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals or whatever. But I'm from Cleveland and
Speaker 1: so I've always been a Cavs fan, Lebron, you know,
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So but I'm not like, I mean,
Speaker 1: my husband would tell you, you know that, he's like,
Speaker 1: you care when it's high stakes, when it's like you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, you are not a fan who's there from
Speaker 1: the beginning, which is which is probably my husband's an athlete,
Speaker 1: so he's like he tells it like it is. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm I'm I like basketball. It's fun,
Speaker 1: it's fast paced. Like I like that aspect of it
Speaker 1: a lot. And I thought it was cool that it
Speaker 1: was such a big part of the show, Like it
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting to have that, you know, be
Speaker 1: a be a factor.
Speaker 4: What's your husband, the athlete think of this episode, because
Speaker 4: you know, seeing Nathan sitting in the bench in this
Speaker 4: junior league is difficult to stomach because we all know,
Speaker 4: we all know he's the star.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a star.
Speaker 4: Yes, how authentic was that for your husband? He?
Speaker 1: I mean, my husband didn't play basketball. He played lacrosse
Speaker 1: in football, he played professional lacrosse and he I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he started every game in college, so it
Speaker 1: was it was not his personal experience to be benched.
Speaker 1: But he understands the.
Speaker 5: He understands how hard it is. You know what I
Speaker 5: liked about it, and I wonder what Brett would think
Speaker 5: about it, is like I liked that you have because
Speaker 5: obviously we're all six years in, like we're die hard
Speaker 5: Nathan Scott fans, and really I like that we have
Speaker 5: this guy exactly as you said, Hill, who we know
Speaker 5: is so good, like we know he can go the distance,
Speaker 5: and here he is really advocating for team above individual,
Speaker 5: and he's doing it, you know, with his teammates, with
Speaker 5: his coaches, and he's also doing it with his kid
Speaker 5: and him talking to Jamie Scott about how you have
Speaker 5: to have heart, how you have to prioritize your team.
Speaker 5: You win as a team, you lose as a team.
Speaker 5: I was like, this is a really good dad speech man.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I wonder like does that stuff get to
Speaker 5: your husband at all? Or is he just like, well, yeah, duh,
Speaker 5: that's how we win. Like is it just us who
Speaker 5: find it sappy and sweet or did he like it.
Speaker 1: No, he for sure does. My husband guys at movies
Speaker 1: way more than I do. He is like a very yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like the team over individual all day long.
Speaker 1: Like he's he's like, you know, very much somebody in general,
Speaker 1: I think in life, Like I think that's he's a
Speaker 1: great leader, you know, in his work environment and stuff like,
Speaker 1: he's he's very much somebody who's about the collective and
Speaker 1: the whole. And so it was fun because this was
Speaker 1: the first time we've ever watched the show together. When
Speaker 1: we were rewatching the episode and he was like, you
Speaker 1: know that he said exact same thing. He was like,
Speaker 1: it's so cool that they like wrote that message in
Speaker 1: and you're right, it's a powerful one to you know,
Speaker 1: like illustrate how just because somebody's the star and they're
Speaker 1: not being appreciated for how great they are yet like
Speaker 1: instead of sort of shining light on that and him
Speaker 1: pouting about not being you know, viewed as the star
Speaker 1: yet he talks about the you know, how how important
Speaker 1: the team is and talks to his kid and it's great.
Speaker 1: It's a life message. You know. It was cool.
Speaker 5: I had a sort of out of body moment watching
Speaker 5: this because I knew James Vanderbeek was coming, I just
Speaker 5: didn't remember, like, was it this week? Was it next week?
Speaker 5: And for my high school college teenage brain that was
Speaker 5: reared on Dawson's Creek to have freakin Vanderbeek come in
Speaker 5: and play like a spoof of an artist and by
Speaker 5: the way, like the literal star of that show, like
Speaker 5: came to just play with us and visit his old
Speaker 5: friends and the crew who'd worked on their show and
Speaker 5: then our show. And you know, he walked in as
Speaker 5: a guest star and had no ego about it, like
Speaker 5: he really he committed so hard. He made me laugh
Speaker 5: so loud, and I'm realizing in real time as you
Speaker 5: talk about your husband's mentality and how we see it
Speaker 5: reflect in Nathan, I'm like, oh my god, that's that's
Speaker 5: kind of like what Vanderbeek did for us a miss,
Speaker 5: Like he just came to be part of the team.
Speaker 4: Don't take yourself seriously kids obsessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a gem, like so so nice, and
Speaker 1: I remember thinking I was like, Wow, Okay, this guy's
Speaker 1: like a huge star. This is so cool that it
Speaker 1: was just really a masterclass in like how did like
Speaker 1: he just really enjoyed the craft, he enjoyed the people.
Speaker 1: This was his second home from you know, working there forever,
Speaker 1: and like you said, the crew and so much of
Speaker 1: like the sets and stuff. It was just really cool
Speaker 1: to see that because you do see people who in music,
Speaker 1: in entertainment who like take themselves way too seriously. It
Speaker 1: was just awesome to see somebody like him at his
Speaker 1: level just come in and be like have fun and
Speaker 1: he asked me like all kinds of questions about myself.
Speaker 1: Was just such a nice human being and it was
Speaker 1: really it was. It was super super cool to see that.
Speaker 4: Well said a good tone for us, like think about it.
Speaker 4: There were so many people that had come off of
Speaker 4: teen or kid TV shows where they were like, I
Speaker 4: never want to speak about that again. I'm a different
Speaker 4: artist now, like I'm changing my name to you know,
Speaker 4: like I'm a grown up now and too cool. They
Speaker 4: were too cool, And we had Vanderbeek come on and
Speaker 4: really set the example of like, now you don't shit
Speaker 4: on the thing that made you. Don't do that, that's gross.
Speaker 4: And then when I got to work with Tiffany Theesen
Speaker 4: on White Collar, she also was like, uhh, we don't
Speaker 4: talk about the thing that made you you appreciate it forever.
Speaker 4: And so now we go back every year and do
Speaker 4: these conventions in Wilmington, and the going back was modeled
Speaker 4: for us. It looked exciting from where we were sitting, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, he comes in here like a king
Speaker 4: and is so benevolent and lovely, like just a fun
Speaker 4: guy and also making so much fun of himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah just like not yeah, like being that. There's just
Speaker 1: such a confidence in that and such a sort of
Speaker 1: authenticity there that was just such an exhale, Like he
Speaker 1: was just such like an exhale to have around. It
Speaker 1: was like, God, the god dude. How cool.
Speaker 5: Also, I squealed at him stealing Lucas's explanation of his
Speaker 5: passion for this movie to win it from Julian's dad
Speaker 5: at the end, like you guys, because because Vanderbeek did
Speaker 5: it in a way where I was just like you
Speaker 5: dirty around in a scoundrel. And also you're acting face
Speaker 5: off in this scene because you watched him make the decision.
Speaker 5: And then the more he spoke, the more into his
Speaker 5: own story he got, even though he's a thief. I
Speaker 5: loved it.
Speaker 1: It was so good. It was so well done right,
Speaker 1: Like I loved that so much too. It's it's true,
Speaker 1: he really he delivered that so so well where you're like, no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly what Lucas said robatim.
Speaker 4: But I feel like there was code in this episode
Speaker 4: because in the scene where they're meeting with like the
Speaker 4: British director at the beginning, and the director's like, this
Speaker 4: needs to be eight Mile. When One Tree Hill was
Speaker 4: originally written, that was the title that was used in
Speaker 4: the pitch that was like, this is going to be
Speaker 4: the TV show version of eight Mile, and then it
Speaker 4: turned into One Trehill, which is hilarious story. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: was supposed to be so much edgier and dark and
Speaker 4: like yeah, and so to cite that six years later
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, yeah, we're doing eight Mile out here. Okay,
Speaker 4: good story, We're.
Speaker 5: Like, huh, what do you what do you? What do
Speaker 5: you get in?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 4: Was that the junkyard where we did the teen People photoshoot?
Speaker 5: It might have been, but I was like, why is this.
Speaker 5: Why is the director who's citing eight Mile using like
Speaker 5: a phony sort of British but not really accent and
Speaker 5: wearing bonttoglasses, Like I just didn't understand we were aiming at,
Speaker 5: you know, especially because One Tree Hill is obviously the
Speaker 5: title of a U two song that our boss said
Speaker 5: for nine years he did not take from a U
Speaker 5: two song, but like, obviously he did, because every episode
Speaker 5: of our show was named a song title or a song.
Speaker 5: So like, I'm like, well, the pilot script was called
Speaker 5: Ravens and then it became One Tree Hill, so it
Speaker 5: feels like it's a song title. And now you've got
Speaker 5: this guy directing the movie about it, who's wearing like
Speaker 5: Bono Glass.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's argie man.
Speaker 5: I really wanted to understand what those Easter eggs were,
Speaker 5: but I don't think they were very well done. Yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe that's just because I don't like the person who
Speaker 5: did that.
Speaker 4: We have any of us done a movie with the
Speaker 4: director like this though, they're all so douchey, and most
Speaker 4: characters I know are the most introverted, like quiet weirdo.
Speaker 4: I don't know any directors that are like out there
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm sure they exist, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like one of those cliches. Like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of music business A and R guy cliches or like
Speaker 1: pre sir cliches where you're like, I mean, maybe like
Speaker 1: one or two of them are like though most of
Speaker 1: them are just like nice guys who like have two
Speaker 1: kids and like it. You know, it's not like some
Speaker 1: skeazy business guy. Like I felt like it was the
Speaker 1: director version of that, where you're like, is this actually
Speaker 1: a thing?
Speaker 4: Well, the whole search for a director really felt like
Speaker 4: a stretched out storyline to me, because the easy answer
Speaker 4: to tell Lucas's story would be to.
Speaker 5: Hire a woman, hire a woman, hello, because the whole
Speaker 5: book is about the women.
Speaker 4: They didn't even interview one lady, no one.
Speaker 1: No, oh God.
Speaker 4: When you hear them talk about all the different options,
Speaker 4: you're like, this guy did this, and this guy did
Speaker 4: an incest movie with sock puppets, and this guy, this guy,
Speaker 4: this guy, the easy layup would be to hire a
Speaker 4: way very much. So, moral of the story. Do we
Speaker 4: like Lucas and Julian together? Did we like that? Comm?
Speaker 5: I really do?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're brotherly in a way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he really does. He pointed that Hillary pointed this
Speaker 5: out a few episodes ago. Kate that like, there was
Speaker 5: a while where people were calling Julian the third.
Speaker 1: Scott oh like fans or yeah.
Speaker 5: And I had forgotten about this, but it there really
Speaker 5: is this interesting balance to him of these two brothers,
Speaker 5: and it's I think one of the things that's really
Speaker 5: nice is we got to see the actual brotherhood of
Speaker 5: Nathan and Lucas all through high school, especially come up
Speaker 5: on the basketball court, and it was the sports that
Speaker 5: bonded them. But you know, Lucas is our resident artist,
Speaker 5: and it's so cool to see him have like a
Speaker 5: comrade in art where they can be creative and talk
Speaker 5: about the scenes and talk about the energy. And I
Speaker 5: don't know, maybe I just like it because we're geeky artists,
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of sweet to see that represented
Speaker 5: on camera.
Speaker 1: I liked that too. I thought it was cool to
Speaker 1: sort of see the like the push pull of them
Speaker 1: trying to collaborate on this and sort of make decisions
Speaker 1: together even when they didn't always agree, or like Julian's
Speaker 1: dad was like financing stuff and so he was like,
Speaker 1: I get that you don't like this, but you know,
Speaker 1: we have to consider this. And that's that's how a
Speaker 1: lot of collaboration is. You know. I thought they conveyed
Speaker 1: that really well together.
Speaker 4: I felt like poor Austin was being punished in this
Speaker 4: episode because your set, your sexy kiss with him last
Speaker 4: episode was too handsome. It was it was too good looking,
Speaker 4: and they're like, how can we bring the good looking
Speaker 4: down a notch? I know, let's put him in this
Speaker 4: stupid hat. And really it.
Speaker 1: Was so weird.
Speaker 4: He was being punished for being too hot. That's what
Speaker 4: they do. It's like, you flew too close to the sun,
Speaker 4: young man. Now we're gonna have to make you look
Speaker 4: like an idiot.
Speaker 5: Well they have to pay. Really, poor Austin, it gets
Speaker 5: so much worse for him because, like I mean, were
Speaker 5: there like in later season till after you leave, Like
Speaker 5: they do a running joke for episodes about how his
Speaker 5: character can't high five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.
Speaker 5: It is just the weirdest, dumbest. We'll have to have
Speaker 5: him back on later to kind of talk about it,
Speaker 5: because they really they put that poor boy through the wringer.
Speaker 5: But I will say, our chemistry is so cute.
Speaker 4: Oh God, and I love again.
Speaker 5: We talked about this a little bit last time, but
Speaker 5: I love there's something so pure about Chase and Mia
Speaker 5: and I finally feel like we're seeing Brooke have that
Speaker 5: kind of like pure sweet chemistry. And there's something about
Speaker 5: Sam being in the mix, like the kid walking in
Speaker 5: on the pseudo parents instead of the other way around.
Speaker 5: Like it's all just so fun and it gives it.
Speaker 5: I think it's a really smart device that Johnny Norris
Speaker 5: did as the writer, Like it gives us this puppy
Speaker 5: love kind of air, even though especially Brooke has been
Speaker 5: through the relationship.
Speaker 6: Ringer and I, I don't I don't.
Speaker 5: Think I caught onto it then. I just thought it
Speaker 5: was funny. But now really seeing it as a viewer
Speaker 5: and a producer, I'm like, oh my god, that is
Speaker 5: a sweet flip that I don't know. It just makes
Speaker 5: it feel so so like genuinely sweet to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a heartbreaking little exchange with you guys.
Speaker 4: The star of this episode. The absolute standout of this
Speaker 4: episode is the blouse that Brooke is wearing.
Speaker 5: That white frilly browse.
Speaker 4: The frillian I mean, what were we saying in your
Speaker 4: Q and a episode about the soft female era? Just
Speaker 4: that like.
Speaker 5: Guitar girl, that blow.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about boys. I just want to
Speaker 4: talk about blow.
Speaker 5: You like the neck? You like the neck? Ruffles and
Speaker 5: then the bear shoulders.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, fabulous.
Speaker 1: You weren't so well like it was great. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was very timeless, like it didn't feel like we filmed
Speaker 1: this in two thousand and eight, you know, like it
Speaker 1: felt like I was like, I would wear that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It was great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, some of the things that particularly Brooke wears are
Speaker 5: very dated and horrible. That blouse, I got mad at it.
Speaker 1: Meaning 's hot topic wardrobe like, and again that was
Speaker 1: the that was supposed to be the mood. But it
Speaker 1: was giving my space. It was giving the whole thing,
Speaker 1: you know, MySpace bangs. It was giving my space.
Speaker 5: It was like, oh my god, oh yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 4: Though the long beaberdime, I loved it. Man. I still
Speaker 4: can only part my hair to the side. I'll never
Speaker 4: be able to part it down the middle. I can't
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 1: Get why look great though? It's so pretty.
Speaker 4: Elder emo you guys. Yeah, the hot death listen. I
Speaker 4: like that. We had representation, we had like high end fashion,
Speaker 4: we did, we had hot topic.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It was, yes, a whole gamut. The blouse was incredible
Speaker 4: and it was the kind of thing that you wear
Speaker 4: when you are falling in love. This isn't like a
Speaker 4: casual Will Tuesday outfit. This is a I'm having a
Speaker 4: romantic narrative right now. I need to look adorable. You
Speaker 4: did look adorable so that when if and when he
Speaker 4: comes by, I'm like.
Speaker 6: Oh, this old thing, you're on your shoulder, just in case,
Speaker 6: it's very soft.
Speaker 5: I do really like too that to your point, like,
Speaker 5: we keep doing this juxtaposition, and there is something about
Speaker 5: Lucas's book being the sort of thread woven through all
Speaker 5: of this. You see this grown up version of Brook
Speaker 5: trying to be a mom, trying to she says, set
Speaker 5: a good example. And then the whole device is like
Speaker 5: giving a boy a letterman jacket. It is just I
Speaker 5: keep coming back to sweet. But it's like there's an
Speaker 5: innocence to it, and Brooke Davis has not known a
Speaker 5: lot of innocence in her life. And I don't know,
Speaker 5: it's really weird for me in a good way to
Speaker 5: watch it from this age and from where we all
Speaker 5: are as this group of friends who are grown ups,
Speaker 5: and to peer back and go, oh wow, the sort
Speaker 5: of innocence and excitement and even the slow pace of
Speaker 5: it for her feels really sweet and refreshing. It's moments
Speaker 5: like this where I realize that I'm like, I loved
Speaker 5: bringing her to life, but I also feel like she's
Speaker 5: like a sibling of mine or something. I'm like, Oh,
Speaker 5: I'm just so happy for her. I'm very protective of.
Speaker 1: Her for sure. Yeah, it was very sweet.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of undercover or just kind of
Speaker 4: alluded to innocence in this episode though, because Brooke is
Speaker 4: like wanting Brook's being very young with Austin not Austin
Speaker 4: Julian in a way that feels like a sophomore in
Speaker 4: high school where it's like we're kissing, but I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna let you go into my room, and like, also
Speaker 4: we could get caught, you know, like there's an innocence there.
Speaker 4: And then he when she's like we should slow this down,
Speaker 4: has a very fifteen year old boy reaction, and it
Speaker 4: gave me the sense that he wasn't as experienced as
Speaker 4: he looks, right, Like he totally everyone's talking about the
Speaker 4: scoundrel grin he broke up with Peyton, and we dispel
Speaker 4: that mythology in this episode the thing right, and then
Speaker 4: then Miia makes a comment this episode too about Chase
Speaker 4: is like so I'm gonna be your first, like listening
Speaker 4: to her song. Yeah, and we're like, wait, is Mia
Speaker 4: a virgin two? Like for a show that had all
Speaker 4: teenagers having sex in the first few seasons, now we're
Speaker 4: getting all of this stunted adolescent energy in our twenties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, caught me off part. I loved that. And when
Speaker 5: you said that, Kate, you were like, we'll see. I
Speaker 5: was like, oh, because she's about to play him the song,
Speaker 5: so she's talking about someone else and it is really
Speaker 5: or is she? But it's really interesting because the almost
Speaker 5: repeat adolescence you even see with Nathan's storyline with Dan
Speaker 5: so many times in my notes for this episode in
Speaker 5: all caps, I'm like, my heart, why do I like him?
Speaker 5: Why do I like Dan? With Jamie like every time
Speaker 5: I see Dan Scott on camera in this episode, he
Speaker 5: makes me feel very emotional. And at the end of
Speaker 5: Nathan's game, when no one else is around and nobody
Speaker 5: sees it, he said zero points, zero whatever one assist
Speaker 5: best stats of the night and then has a real
Speaker 5: heart to heart to tell him I am so proud
Speaker 5: of you and he means it. It made me cry.
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't understand what's happening here, And
Speaker 5: in a way, you're seeing Nathan, even if it's just
Speaker 5: for a moment or a scene, you see him have
Speaker 5: the dad he always needs and never got as a kid.
Speaker 5: So even the boys are having this experience.
Speaker 4: We're all fifteen years old inside you guys, that's what's done.
Speaker 1: We are. Let's be honest, we totally are. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: so right. So if that was so, it was really
Speaker 1: so much heart in that, And I love that he
Speaker 1: took Dan's like comments to heart and like he was
Speaker 1: working on you know, like like do watching film, looking
Speaker 1: at the playbook and like you know, calling Jamie like, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be ready.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It was like it was really cool for Dan to
Speaker 1: have like redeeming moments like that. And Paul does such
Speaker 1: a good job with conveying that because I had a
Speaker 1: like someone helping me with sides once who said, like
Speaker 1: a coach who was like, even if you're playing someone
Speaker 1: who's like the bad girl or the bad guy like you,
Speaker 1: your job is to find ways to make them human
Speaker 1: and to make people root for you even when you're terrible.
Speaker 1: And like Paul did that so well with Dan in
Speaker 1: this episode, Like in general, but that scene was really,
Speaker 1: really really sweet.
Speaker 4: Why is Dan Scott babysitting Jamie? Like, I get babysitters
Speaker 4: are hard to find, but like there are people who
Speaker 4: I wouldn't let watch my kids for way.
Speaker 5: Less, you know, like, oh you mean murderers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you know, they said a dumb thing once.
Speaker 4: I don't want them babysitting my kids. Yeah, Dan Scott
Speaker 4: went to.
Speaker 1: His brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't in like a like a car accident
Speaker 5: and somebody died. God for a baby, But it's like
Speaker 5: this man shot his sibling. He's on parole, and weirdly,
Speaker 5: their dynamic, like actual Paul and actual Jackson's dynamic together,
Speaker 5: is so sweet that I get why the writers wanted
Speaker 5: more of it. But I am wondering how Nathan and
Speaker 5: Haley have suspended disbelief enough to allow said murderer to
Speaker 5: be the person who takes their kid out for ice.
Speaker 1: A bit of a stretch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is Haley doing?
Speaker 1: Is she?
Speaker 4: Like what is happening?
Speaker 5: They don't know?
Speaker 4: Once you get pregnant, because look, Peyton doesn't have anything
Speaker 4: to do either, you know, like, once you get pregnant
Speaker 4: on this show, that's it you are. It's over, You're
Speaker 4: locked up, done, You're just you're just sitting around waiting
Speaker 4: to deliver a quip.
Speaker 5: They just don't know what to do with you.
Speaker 4: Oh God, almighty, letting murderers, baby sitting your kids. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's fine, you can have them. You guys are going
Speaker 4: down to the river. That seems safe. Yeah, totally, it'll
Speaker 4: be fine. We're all fifteen inside, Haley was being fifteen.
Speaker 4: That's true, just.
Speaker 1: Like it's his grandpa. No, what am.
Speaker 5: I gonna do? No, everybody deserves a second chance.
Speaker 4: Okay, So but wait, is Mia a virgin? Do we
Speaker 4: ever establish that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that Mia, because that's a that's a storyline,
Speaker 1: that whole situation Mia ends up. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of obsession over that, whether or not that was a
Speaker 1: thing in real life, which is a whole, full story
Speaker 1: for a whole on their episode. But I'm sorry, I like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like dropping bombs. Oh babe.
Speaker 4: We've spent years going into the things she did, you know,
Speaker 4: and we never want to force anyone into it. Oh no,
Speaker 4: do you feel like the real life stuff just bled
Speaker 4: over entirely into this for you?
Speaker 1: Well? I feel like it was weird because I think
Speaker 1: what happens sometimes when some things are real, like the
Speaker 1: songs are my songs, you know, and me, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: looks enough like me, you know, like her hair and
Speaker 1: makeup was a little different, and her wardrobe was different
Speaker 1: than mine on tour. But like things start to blend,
Speaker 1: and so people assume that if something's happening in the story,
Speaker 1: that that means it's also true in real life. And
Speaker 1: so I thought the Mia, Yeah, Mia is a virgin
Speaker 1: and she is obsessive later in I think it's later
Speaker 1: in the show over the fact that Chase lost his
Speaker 1: virginia to brook and she's like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: Brooks so pretty and blah blah blah, like oh, I'm
Speaker 1: so and I think that's like a scene coming up.
Speaker 1: And then and then I think she loses a virginia
Speaker 1: to Chase, perhaps in a plane because he's a pilot.
Speaker 1: And it's a very cute, like, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: cute storyline, a very kind of pure like sort of
Speaker 1: you know romance that follows the same trajectory that's set
Speaker 1: up in this episode. But there was like I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to constantly be like that's not me
Speaker 1: as well, like but I felt a bit like there
Speaker 1: were certain folks or maybe one what's the singular of folks,
Speaker 1: I don't know who really wanted that to be sort
Speaker 1: of like who asked me many man, many times in
Speaker 1: many circumstances if that was the case in real life.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but like,
Speaker 1: I have spent the last year living on a tour
Speaker 1: bus and I went to college, Like, we don't need
Speaker 1: to be obsessing over it's women's virginity is a big
Speaker 1: theme I think sometimes. And it wasn't just our show
Speaker 1: either though. It was a lot of those shows in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands or movies like using Virginity, you know,
Speaker 1: And it's like it was treated well in the storyline
Speaker 1: of the show. But it was funny that in parallel,
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't need to.
Speaker 5: We don't need for this to become the focus of everything.
Speaker 4: No, we watched Lisa Goldstein just do the Millie storyline
Speaker 4: where she's a virgin and loses it like in a
Speaker 4: super you know, messy way. And so it is weird
Speaker 4: when a man is telling stories about very female experiences
Speaker 4: because they want to feel some ownership over it. That
Speaker 4: maybe off screen as well, and it's like, Oh, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to fee you my truth so that you
Speaker 4: can come up with a story that's been weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, it's like this character, that's great, that that's
Speaker 1: her story, and I think that's really sweet, and you know,
Speaker 1: but it's like, let's slow down. Doesn't mean it's like
Speaker 1: gotta be we don't need to be doing like a
Speaker 1: deep dond sexual history as a human being.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's really actually not workplace conversation at all, not really.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think what's really interesting about like what you're saying, kay,
Speaker 5: And that whole dynamic was for all of us, the
Speaker 5: way it seemed like they really wanted to create a
Speaker 5: blurry line between sure reality and fiction, and how that
Speaker 5: really ramped up in later years. I mean, god, I remember,
Speaker 5: like you know, I went to all girls school from
Speaker 5: seventh grade till I graduated. I did three years of
Speaker 5: co ed college, and it was really hard for me
Speaker 5: when the show first started, like being out in the
Speaker 5: world and the way people would like talk to me
Speaker 5: and the way men would talk to me. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 5: you guys think I'm promiscuous because Brooke Davis is promising
Speaker 5: all right, it changed the way men would like speak
Speaker 5: to me and approach me in public once our show
Speaker 5: was on, like even in Wilmington, because for the first
Speaker 5: couple of months we were there, our show wasn't on
Speaker 5: the air, and everything was real like sweet and broke,
Speaker 5: you know, the gals. And then when our show started
Speaker 5: to air, the way everyone would talk to me was
Speaker 5: really different. And I only share that to say, like,
Speaker 5: obviously the opposite end of circumstance in the way our
Speaker 5: characters were being portrayed, but like, oh my god, I
Speaker 5: get how bizarre it is when everyone starts talking to
Speaker 5: you as though your body is like their business or knowledge.
Speaker 5: It's so gross. And I think it's even grosser to
Speaker 5: sit with the fact that, you know, the conversations you
Speaker 5: were subjected to, like the in that men harp on
Speaker 5: women's virginity is because they think it's a thing they
Speaker 5: get to win, instead of I think we choose rise
Speaker 5: to shift for ourselves. With someone we pick, they think
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna get it, and it's like it wasn't
Speaker 5: yours to get boom. You know, it's so gross. And
Speaker 5: the fact that you had to deal with that from
Speaker 5: your boss, our boss who was married who right, who
Speaker 5: pretends like he was everybody's big brother figure and it's like, no, bro,
Speaker 5: we were all just grossed out by you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just trying to survive and we're all
Speaker 1: just like what's going on?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what he does is he puts the cute
Speaker 4: boys in stupid hats so that when he comes to set,
Speaker 4: there's no competition.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, all the girls are looking at this guy.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make him dress up like a golfer from
Speaker 5: the nineteen thirties.
Speaker 1: Now you're like, it's gonna take more than a hat, honey.
Speaker 4: He makes Steven do anything stupid.
Speaker 1: Well, he made him a really big that bartender, like
Speaker 1: he was a terrible bartending and stuff.
Speaker 5: Like he just can't make a drink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a gelding that all the boys went through, yep,
Speaker 4: right where it was like, we're gonna have to make
Speaker 4: you a dork. There's a screw loose somewhere around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna emasculate you in one way or the other.
Speaker 5: It's like, well, sir, maybe if you weren't wearing leather
Speaker 5: pants with a high up the crotch, you wouldn't be emasculated,
Speaker 5: but that was your choice.
Speaker 1: That was your choice, and that's why chose your choice.
Speaker 1: It's not working the way you think it is.
Speaker 5: You know what I want to end on, because you
Speaker 5: know I would love to set our boss on fire
Speaker 5: all day. But there was, despite that stupid hat, so
Speaker 5: much sweet energy for Julian and for me and Chase
Speaker 5: and Nathan and Haley and even with Dan. I never
Speaker 5: thought i'd say it, even Dan, that's what you want
Speaker 5: to end on you guys, because again you made this
Speaker 5: point that we're all having a second adolescent. Since the
Speaker 5: conversation between the two of you in Lucas's room is
Speaker 5: so sweet. I loved it so much because you managed
Speaker 5: to say I don't want this in a way that
Speaker 5: wasn't critical at all. Like what I realized I was
Speaker 5: watching was Peyton Sawyer. I was watching my on screen
Speaker 5: best friend, who's been one of my best friends in
Speaker 5: the world for two decades, literally sit down and choose
Speaker 5: her own dream come true. Like you said to him.
Speaker 5: I've always pictured myself wearing Keith's ring, and you just
Speaker 5: were like, that's what I want. It's what I've wanted
Speaker 5: since high school. I want what I want with you
Speaker 5: and I want it forever, and I cried. I was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, this is so sweet, Like I really
Speaker 5: really loved it. I loved it so much. I'm like
Speaker 5: I'm feeling very emo even now. It was perfect.
Speaker 4: I liked the combo of finding out the truth about
Speaker 4: Julian that he didn't go to Sundayance, he didn't some
Speaker 4: other girl, and it not shaking Peyton's reality in the least.
Speaker 4: Like it not for one second. Is she like, maybe
Speaker 4: I messed up with Julian like it. No, Her concern is, oh, oh,
Speaker 4: I gotta go tell my best friend because she likes him.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay on my path. And seeing Peyton stay
Speaker 4: on her path is something that I like because as
Speaker 4: a woman who in real life has really just laid
Speaker 4: down some hard decisions and been like I'm gonna stick
Speaker 4: with this, I like seeing a young person know their
Speaker 4: truth and be like, let's just do it. So. I
Speaker 4: remember filming that with Chad. I remember filming with him
Speaker 4: out at the water where our characters first met, and
Speaker 4: that was like a really big moment for he and
Speaker 4: I personally, because that pilot was scary, Like I got
Speaker 4: yelled at on the pilot. Yeah, because there was an
Speaker 4: alligator and I got really scared and I couldn't remember
Speaker 4: my lines, and like I mean fair, it was it
Speaker 4: was like a one of those like it was over
Speaker 4: stimulation and so in the moment when we filmed there
Speaker 4: originally it was really like stressful, and so we got
Speaker 4: to go back almost six years later as grown ups
Speaker 4: in a really low stress, really celebratory way, and so
Speaker 4: that was that was nice. And I like I just
Speaker 4: like content, Brook and Peyton like not Brook and Payton,
Speaker 4: I like, well, I like them content too. I like content.
Speaker 4: Who's the love story? I like Content? Peyton and Lucas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too. It's so sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Just happiness feels good.
Speaker 5: Happiness looks good on everyone. Everyone deserves it.
Speaker 4: And now we have mea to write songs about our happiness.
Speaker 7: We sure do, baby, Yes, happy songs.
Speaker 5: We have a fan question for you from Maddie. Well,
Speaker 5: we know from our wonderful Q and A episode with
Speaker 5: you that it's not Pool, but she wants to know
Speaker 5: what your favorite hobby actually is.
Speaker 1: That's a great question. No, unfortunately is not Pool. My
Speaker 1: favorite hobby is it's kind of like part of my
Speaker 1: work too. But it's art like painting, painting and drawing
Speaker 1: and stuff like I that was kind of my first
Speaker 1: love yeah, as a kid, and it's just something that
Speaker 1: like quiets my mind. Like I just love it so much,
Speaker 1: do it all day long?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're really good at it. Yeah, it's nice
Speaker 4: to have a hobby that you're like great at.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's easier for somebody to become a hobby? Right, Like
Speaker 1: if you're bad, you know, if you're like terrible at something.
Speaker 1: I also like, I mean French. Learning French has been
Speaker 1: like a huge hoby for me. And you can't be
Speaker 1: good at that, right, you know, it takes forever to
Speaker 1: be good at that. So languages are like something that
Speaker 1: fascinates me too. But it's a different thing getting to
Speaker 1: like a hobby where you're not good at it a first.
Speaker 1: It's like humbling to say the least.
Speaker 5: I want to be as disciplined as you. I For
Speaker 5: the last like five years, I keep saying my year's
Speaker 5: resolution this year is to relearn French, and every year
Speaker 5: I go that just that escaped me. But maybe maybe
Speaker 5: this year, maybe next year, maybe never.
Speaker 4: What's your hobby?
Speaker 5: So mine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your hobby?
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't know. Probably like democratic volunteering. Really, you're
Speaker 5: going to make sure we don't lose the right to vote.
Speaker 4: Writing for women's rights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like making way more of a difference than me
Speaker 1: is speaking in French.
Speaker 4: I just agree because if we.
Speaker 5: All have to move out of America because you know,
Speaker 5: women have no rights here, we're going to need to
Speaker 5: go with you to France. So well, dude, we'll get.
Speaker 4: There one way or another. Indeed, for sure, mind sets
Speaker 4: in between you guys. I am throwing the spring flag
Speaker 4: our school ptso. So it's a little bit of advocacy
Speaker 4: and a little bit of art. So if anyone wants
Speaker 4: to come and help me make big, huge paper flowers,
Speaker 4: that's where we're at right now, like tissue paper.
Speaker 5: You are the best art mom, Like you're the pta
Speaker 5: mom I always wanted and that I hope to be someday.
Speaker 4: It's true. It's just chaos constantly. I love chaos. All right,
Speaker 4: let's spin a wheel, baby, Kate. You know how this works.
Speaker 5: Most don't know, you, guys. We do superlatives every week.
Speaker 5: The most likely to like in a yearbook, but we
Speaker 5: do it with this little wheel.
Speaker 1: Okay, the winner most likely to respond to the Instagram
Speaker 1: haters ooh.
Speaker 4: Oh, because you have to pick a character from the show,
Speaker 4: but then like a real life friend of ours from
Speaker 4: the show character and real life, I mean, Sophia will
Speaker 4: throw down. She will with venom.
Speaker 5: I don't like when people are mean to my friends
Speaker 5: on the internet. I don't like her.
Speaker 1: You defend Like one of my core memories one of
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks that I was in Wilmington,
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone, and I was so overwhelmed and
Speaker 1: just like, not intimidated by you guys, but just by
Speaker 1: the experience. We were all at the bar, one of
Speaker 1: the bars on Front Street, and someone stole my clutch,
Speaker 1: and I mean, we hardly knew each other, so and
Speaker 1: you ran up to the girl and said, hey, that's
Speaker 1: my friend's purse and you're not gonna steal it.
Speaker 8: And I was like, holy shit, that is the nicest
Speaker 8: thing anyone's done for me. It made suck, It made
Speaker 8: me feel so like welcome, and I was just like, wow,
Speaker 8: thank you so much, like this girl who's been here
Speaker 8: for years and already has like her friend group and anyways,
Speaker 8: so yes, I think you are very fiercely defensive of
Speaker 8: your friends.
Speaker 4: In a way that I admire very much, sweet soul,
Speaker 4: You're dangerous.
Speaker 5: I kind of can't help it. And then it's funny
Speaker 5: because my friends will be like, why don't you stand
Speaker 5: up for yourself like that? And I'm like, shut up, No,
Speaker 5: that's my shut up. What do you mean? And that's
Speaker 5: the thing, like we all do it for each other.
Speaker 5: And I think maybe that's why it's so special.
Speaker 4: Who on the show, what character is like? Not today, I.
Speaker 5: Weirdly feel like I don't know why I'm picturing a
Speaker 5: scene in my head of like Bevin in Facebook group chats,
Speaker 5: just like responding to people in the best ways, like
Speaker 5: because her character had the best one liners. Yes, I
Speaker 5: feel like TV Bevin would be the most hilarious, like
Speaker 5: clapback Queen of the Internet.
Speaker 2: She would.
Speaker 4: But I like that you limited it to Facebook, like
Speaker 4: because it.
Speaker 5: Can't be like so current, right, it's got to have
Speaker 5: a joke built in.
Speaker 4: No moms are on Facebook. That is the mom site
Speaker 4: of choice, and that's how we organize that shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I listen. I love Facebook. I'm out here, you just
Speaker 4: looking up people I used to know and cousege I
Speaker 4: love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's made for you know, like all
Speaker 1: this new stuff like marketplace, like okay, sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: it's made for like keeping tabs on people from the
Speaker 1: past and like sniffing out bullshit.
Speaker 4: She's just like, yes, I'm gonna do a little homework today, Kate.
Speaker 4: We love having you stay forever.
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, it's so fun to see you. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for having me back. I will any any
Speaker 1: any time. It's so wonderful to see you guys, and
Speaker 1: so fun to talk about the show.
Speaker 5: Finally, it's so wonderful.
Speaker 4: If you need backup dancers for your music videos with girls,
Speaker 4: you know who to call.
Speaker 1: Always you guys. Honestly, your future goes backup dancers. We
Speaker 1: are we are always hiring and you guys don't even
Speaker 1: have to audition, like immediate hire.
Speaker 5: I'm so ready.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, boom, we could ab oh we should be backup dancer.
Speaker 1: Ghosts so cool just.
Speaker 5: Saying Halloween Show. We're ready, We're ready to go. All right, friends,
Speaker 5: this has been so much fun. We will see you
Speaker 5: back here next week for season six, episode sixteen. Screenwriters Blues.
Speaker 5: I have a hunch Vanderbeek might be a real pain
Speaker 5: in the ass to our boys. And I can't wait
Speaker 5: to see him do it.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 5: For you next week, kuties.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for listening.
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