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Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.

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Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama, Girl drama, girl,

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Speaker 2: all about them high school queens. We'll take you for

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Speaker 2: a ride, and our comic girl sharing for the right

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Speaker 2: drama queens girl girl fashion, but your tough girl, you

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Speaker 2: could sit with us.

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Speaker 3: Girl drama, Queens drama, Queens drama, Queens drama, drama, Queens drama, queens.

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Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen. We still have came bother when us here.

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Speaker 4: We're doing episode six fifteen, and unlike when we had

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Speaker 4: her on the show during the strike, she's able to

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Speaker 4: tell us exactly what she thinks about the storylines.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, honey, Thanks guys, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun to hang and to be able to

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Speaker 1: actually chat about the show and stuff. So fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're using code language last time.

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Speaker 4: So it's great. Now you get to tell us what

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Speaker 4: you think of all the love triangles and like who

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Speaker 4: is a dick on set? All the fun.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, all kinds of tea.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was we change We wait. It aired January nineteenth,

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Speaker 4: of two thousand and nine. Do you want to read

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Speaker 4: the synopsis?

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Speaker 1: Kate me sure? Synopsis of six fifteen We Change We

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Speaker 1: Wait is Lucas and Julian's struggle to choose a director

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Speaker 1: for their movie. Well, Peyton has mixed feelings about a

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Speaker 1: surprise gift from Lucas, Brook struggles with issues about her

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Speaker 1: relationship with Julian, and Mia finally feels inspired by Chase.

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Speaker 4: Oh Love It.

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Speaker 1: Directed by Les Butler, writer John A. Norris, dream team,

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Speaker 1: good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Dream team. We had such such good eggs on this one.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. They had some interested lines in this episode.

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Speaker 1: Yea, oh my god, there were some lines that you

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Speaker 1: were like, this is this aired in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 4: This is exposition. Yeah, I just love at the top

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Speaker 4: of the episode, like Peyton found out she was pregnant

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Speaker 4: a couple episodes ago, and I call bebopping in the kitchen, like, hey,

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Speaker 4: what's going on with you? I mean, besides having a

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Speaker 4: Jeff and I talk at home. I don't know about

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Speaker 5: For sure, Yeah, that feels totally natural and exactly the

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Speaker 1: That's how I would drop the news. I think if

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Speaker 1: how I would tell them the first time, you know,

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Speaker 1: like just I'm gonna I'm gonna co opt that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if that ever happens, you know, that's gonna be my uh,

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Speaker 4: Funny in your back pocket? How much of the show

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Speaker 4: had you seen before you joined?

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Speaker 1: Okay, real talk, I had never seen an episode when

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

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Speaker 1: There's some drama going on right now with like Nathan

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Speaker 4: Wait, So were you like a Brook Lucas fan or

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Speaker 4: a Peyton Lucas fan. Where was your loyalty come?

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Speaker 4: Goodness, because we're doing a docy dough in this episode,

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Speaker 4: like everyone has switched boyfriends at this point. Do I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dope, right because Julian had dated Hayton

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Speaker 1: right exactly, and Julian's working on the movie.

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Speaker 4: And chase A dated Brook Baby, and chase A.

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Speaker 1: Dated Brook, which MEA has a very hard time with,

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Speaker 4: Why I have to kiss one of these people?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And guys, this is god, I don't even know whatever?

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Speaker 1: Who cares. The first day that I came to set,

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Speaker 4: So I was like, hell, what, yeah? That was?

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Speaker 1: That was my welcome on this show.

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Speaker 4: It's like bad enough to think that you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Yes. So I text my mom when I get back

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Speaker 4: No one clarified anything for it.

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Speaker 1: No, it just I just kept getting scripts and I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think I was less concerned about like

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Speaker 4: Pick Had you ever kissed anyone on TV? Like, had

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Speaker 5: There, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: And there wasn't like an executive you could call the

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I'm glad that you got chased out of

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Speaker 5: again to your point, every character on our show kissed.

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Speaker 5: Every character on our show, much like being in any

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Speaker 5: And I just was like, God, sets are just they're

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Speaker 4: Held up them.

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Speaker 1: It's the show, you know, like that, that's the show,

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Speaker 1: for sure. I know someone needs to write that show

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Speaker 1: like not a reality show.

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Speaker 5: season four? I guess it was season four And Brooke

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Speaker 5: Never kissed anyone on camera, and was like, oh, terrified

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Speaker 5: he hadn't Like it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Like a makeout vibe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, and we had to like really

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Speaker 5: was like you're in this professional place and you have

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Speaker 5: He understands how hard it is. You know what I

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Speaker 4: Well said a good tone for us, like think about it.

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Speaker 4: these conventions in Wilmington, and the going back was modeled

434
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 4: for us. It looked exciting from where we were sitting, like,

435
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 4: oh my god, he comes in here like a king

436
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 4: and is so benevolent and lovely, like just a fun

437
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: guy and also making so much fun of himself.

438
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah just like not yeah, like being that. There's just

439
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: such a confidence in that and such a sort of

440
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: authenticity there that was just such an exhale, Like he

441
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: was just such like an exhale to have around. It

442
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: was like, God, the god dude. How cool.

443
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 5: Also, I squealed at him stealing Lucas's explanation of his

444
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 5: passion for this movie to win it from Julian's dad

445
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 5: at the end, like you guys, because because Vanderbeek did

446
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: it in a way where I was just like you

447
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 5: dirty around in a scoundrel. And also you're acting face

448
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 5: off in this scene because you watched him make the decision.

449
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 5: And then the more he spoke, the more into his

450
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 5: own story he got, even though he's a thief. I

451
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 5: loved it.

452
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: It was so good. It was so well done right,

453
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: Like I loved that so much too. It's it's true,

454
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: he really he delivered that so so well where you're like, no,

455
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly what Lucas said robatim.

456
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 4: But I feel like there was code in this episode

457
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 4: because in the scene where they're meeting with like the

458
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 4: British director at the beginning, and the director's like, this

459
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: needs to be eight Mile. When One Tree Hill was

460
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 4: originally written, that was the title that was used in

461
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 4: the pitch that was like, this is going to be

462
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 4: the TV show version of eight Mile, and then it

463
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 4: turned into One Trehill, which is hilarious story. Yeah, it

464
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 4: was supposed to be so much edgier and dark and

465
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 4: like yeah, and so to cite that six years later

466
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, yeah, we're doing eight Mile out here. Okay,

467
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: good story, We're.

468
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 5: Like, huh, what do you what do you? What do

469
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 5: you get in?

470
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: That?

471
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 4: Was that the junkyard where we did the teen People photoshoot?

472
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 5: It might have been, but I was like, why is this.

473
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 5: Why is the director who's citing eight Mile using like

474
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 5: a phony sort of British but not really accent and

475
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 5: wearing bonttoglasses, Like I just didn't understand we were aiming at,

476
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 5: you know, especially because One Tree Hill is obviously the

477
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 5: title of a U two song that our boss said

478
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: for nine years he did not take from a U

479
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 5: two song, but like, obviously he did, because every episode

480
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 5: of our show was named a song title or a song.

481
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 5: So like, I'm like, well, the pilot script was called

482
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 5: Ravens and then it became One Tree Hill, so it

483
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: feels like it's a song title. And now you've got

484
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 5: this guy directing the movie about it, who's wearing like

485
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 5: Bono Glass.

486
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's argie man.

487
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 5: I really wanted to understand what those Easter eggs were,

488
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: but I don't think they were very well done. Yeah,

489
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,959
Speaker 5: maybe that's just because I don't like the person who

490
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 5: did that.

491
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 4: We have any of us done a movie with the

492
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: director like this though, they're all so douchey, and most

493
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: characters I know are the most introverted, like quiet weirdo.

494
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: I don't know any directors that are like out there

495
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 4: like that.

496
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 5: No, I don't know.

497
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm sure they exist, but yeah, it

498
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: seems like one of those cliches. Like there's a lot

499
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: of music business A and R guy cliches or like

500
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: pre sir cliches where you're like, I mean, maybe like

501
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: one or two of them are like though most of

502
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: them are just like nice guys who like have two

503
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: kids and like it. You know, it's not like some

504
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: skeazy business guy. Like I felt like it was the

505
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: director version of that, where you're like, is this actually

506
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: a thing?

507
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: Well, the whole search for a director really felt like

508
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: a stretched out storyline to me, because the easy answer

509
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 4: to tell Lucas's story would be to.

510
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 5: Hire a woman, hire a woman, hello, because the whole

511
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: book is about the women.

512
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: They didn't even interview one lady, no one.

513
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 1: No, oh God.

514
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 4: When you hear them talk about all the different options,

515
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: you're like, this guy did this, and this guy did

516
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: an incest movie with sock puppets, and this guy, this guy,

517
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 4: this guy, the easy layup would be to hire a

518
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 4: way very much. So, moral of the story. Do we

519
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: like Lucas and Julian together? Did we like that? Comm?

520
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 5: I really do?

521
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: I do?

522
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're brotherly in a way.

523
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, he really does. He pointed that Hillary pointed this

524
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: out a few episodes ago. Kate that like, there was

525
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 5: a while where people were calling Julian the third.

526
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: Scott oh like fans or yeah.

527
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 5: And I had forgotten about this, but it there really

528
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 5: is this interesting balance to him of these two brothers,

529
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 5: and it's I think one of the things that's really

530
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 5: nice is we got to see the actual brotherhood of

531
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: Nathan and Lucas all through high school, especially come up

532
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 5: on the basketball court, and it was the sports that

533
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 5: bonded them. But you know, Lucas is our resident artist,

534
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: and it's so cool to see him have like a

535
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 5: comrade in art where they can be creative and talk

536
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 5: about the scenes and talk about the energy. And I

537
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: don't know, maybe I just like it because we're geeky artists,

538
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of sweet to see that represented

539
00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 5: on camera.

540
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: I liked that too. I thought it was cool to

541
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: sort of see the like the push pull of them

542
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: trying to collaborate on this and sort of make decisions

543
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: together even when they didn't always agree, or like Julian's

544
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: dad was like financing stuff and so he was like,

545
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: I get that you don't like this, but you know,

546
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: we have to consider this. And that's that's how a

547
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: lot of collaboration is. You know. I thought they conveyed

548
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: that really well together.

549
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: I felt like poor Austin was being punished in this

550
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: episode because your set, your sexy kiss with him last

551
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: episode was too handsome. It was it was too good looking,

552
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: and they're like, how can we bring the good looking

553
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 4: down a notch? I know, let's put him in this

554
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 4: stupid hat. And really it.

555
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Was so weird.

556
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: He was being punished for being too hot. That's what

557
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: they do. It's like, you flew too close to the sun,

558
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: young man. Now we're gonna have to make you look

559
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 4: like an idiot.

560
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 5: Well they have to pay. Really, poor Austin, it gets

561
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: so much worse for him because, like I mean, were

562
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 5: there like in later season till after you leave, Like

563
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: they do a running joke for episodes about how his

564
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: character can't high five.

565
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it.

566
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 5: It is just the weirdest, dumbest. We'll have to have

567
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 5: him back on later to kind of talk about it,

568
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 5: because they really they put that poor boy through the wringer.

569
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 5: But I will say, our chemistry is so cute.

570
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 4: Oh God, and I love again.

571
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 5: We talked about this a little bit last time, but

572
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: I love there's something so pure about Chase and Mia

573
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 5: and I finally feel like we're seeing Brooke have that

574
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 5: kind of like pure sweet chemistry. And there's something about

575
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 5: Sam being in the mix, like the kid walking in

576
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: on the pseudo parents instead of the other way around.

577
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 5: Like it's all just so fun and it gives it.

578
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: I think it's a really smart device that Johnny Norris

579
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 5: did as the writer, Like it gives us this puppy

580
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 5: love kind of air, even though especially Brooke has been

581
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: through the relationship.

582
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 6: Ringer and I, I don't I don't.

583
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 5: Think I caught onto it then. I just thought it

584
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 5: was funny. But now really seeing it as a viewer

585
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 5: and a producer, I'm like, oh my god, that is

586
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 5: a sweet flip that I don't know. It just makes

587
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: it feel so so like genuinely sweet to me.

588
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a heartbreaking little exchange with you guys.

589
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: The star of this episode. The absolute standout of this

590
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: episode is the blouse that Brooke is wearing.

591
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: That white frilly browse.

592
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: The frillian I mean, what were we saying in your

593
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 4: Q and a episode about the soft female era? Just

594
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 4: that like.

595
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: Guitar girl, that blow.

596
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: I want to talk about boys. I just want to

597
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: talk about blow.

598
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 5: You like the neck? You like the neck? Ruffles and

599
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 5: then the bear shoulders.

600
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, fabulous.

601
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: You weren't so well like it was great. Yeah, it

602
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: was very timeless, like it didn't feel like we filmed

603
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: this in two thousand and eight, you know, like it

604
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,479
Speaker 1: felt like I was like, I would wear that tomorrow.

605
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: It was great.

606
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, some of the things that particularly Brooke wears are

607
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 5: very dated and horrible. That blouse, I got mad at it.

608
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: Meaning 's hot topic wardrobe like, and again that was

609
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: the that was supposed to be the mood. But it

610
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: was giving my space. It was giving the whole thing,

611
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, MySpace bangs. It was giving my space.

612
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: It was like, oh my god, oh yeah, I loved it.

613
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: Though the long beaberdime, I loved it. Man. I still

614
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 4: can only part my hair to the side. I'll never

615
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: be able to part it down the middle. I can't

616
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 4: do it.

617
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: Get why look great though? It's so pretty.

618
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: Elder emo you guys. Yeah, the hot death listen. I

619
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: like that. We had representation, we had like high end fashion,

620
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: we did, we had hot topic.

621
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: You know.

622
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: It was, yes, a whole gamut. The blouse was incredible

623
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: and it was the kind of thing that you wear

624
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 4: when you are falling in love. This isn't like a

625
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: casual Will Tuesday outfit. This is a I'm having a

626
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: romantic narrative right now. I need to look adorable. You

627
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: did look adorable so that when if and when he

628
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 4: comes by, I'm like.

629
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 6: Oh, this old thing, you're on your shoulder, just in case,

630
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 6: it's very soft.

631
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 5: I do really like too that to your point, like,

632
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: we keep doing this juxtaposition, and there is something about

633
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 5: Lucas's book being the sort of thread woven through all

634
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 5: of this. You see this grown up version of Brook

635
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 5: trying to be a mom, trying to she says, set

636
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 5: a good example. And then the whole device is like

637
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: giving a boy a letterman jacket. It is just I

638
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 5: keep coming back to sweet. But it's like there's an

639
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: innocence to it, and Brooke Davis has not known a

640
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: lot of innocence in her life. And I don't know,

641
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: it's really weird for me in a good way to

642
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 5: watch it from this age and from where we all

643
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 5: are as this group of friends who are grown ups,

644
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: and to peer back and go, oh wow, the sort

645
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: of innocence and excitement and even the slow pace of

646
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: it for her feels really sweet and refreshing. It's moments

647
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: like this where I realize that I'm like, I loved

648
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: bringing her to life, but I also feel like she's

649
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 5: like a sibling of mine or something. I'm like, Oh,

650
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: I'm just so happy for her. I'm very protective of.

651
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Her for sure. Yeah, it was very sweet.

652
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: There was a lot of undercover or just kind of

653
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 4: alluded to innocence in this episode though, because Brooke is

654
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: like wanting Brook's being very young with Austin not Austin

655
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: Julian in a way that feels like a sophomore in

656
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: high school where it's like we're kissing, but I'm not

657
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 4: gonna let you go into my room, and like, also

658
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: we could get caught, you know, like there's an innocence there.

659
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: And then he when she's like we should slow this down,

660
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: has a very fifteen year old boy reaction, and it

661
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: gave me the sense that he wasn't as experienced as

662
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 4: he looks, right, Like he totally everyone's talking about the

663
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: scoundrel grin he broke up with Peyton, and we dispel

664
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: that mythology in this episode the thing right, and then

665
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: then Miia makes a comment this episode too about Chase

666
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 4: is like so I'm gonna be your first, like listening

667
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: to her song. Yeah, and we're like, wait, is Mia

668
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: a virgin two? Like for a show that had all

669
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 4: teenagers having sex in the first few seasons, now we're

670
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: getting all of this stunted adolescent energy in our twenties.

671
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, caught me off part. I loved that. And when

672
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 5: you said that, Kate, you were like, we'll see. I

673
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 5: was like, oh, because she's about to play him the song,

674
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: so she's talking about someone else and it is really

675
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 5: or is she? But it's really interesting because the almost

676
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: repeat adolescence you even see with Nathan's storyline with Dan

677
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 5: so many times in my notes for this episode in

678
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 5: all caps, I'm like, my heart, why do I like him?

679
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 5: Why do I like Dan? With Jamie like every time

680
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 5: I see Dan Scott on camera in this episode, he

681
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 5: makes me feel very emotional. And at the end of

682
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 5: Nathan's game, when no one else is around and nobody

683
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 5: sees it, he said zero points, zero whatever one assist

684
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 5: best stats of the night and then has a real

685
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 5: heart to heart to tell him I am so proud

686
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: of you and he means it. It made me cry.

687
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't understand what's happening here, And

688
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: in a way, you're seeing Nathan, even if it's just

689
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: for a moment or a scene, you see him have

690
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: the dad he always needs and never got as a kid.

691
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: So even the boys are having this experience.

692
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: We're all fifteen years old inside you guys, that's what's done.

693
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: We are. Let's be honest, we totally are. Yeah, you're

694
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: so right. So if that was so, it was really

695
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: so much heart in that, And I love that he

696
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: took Dan's like comments to heart and like he was

697
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: working on you know, like like do watching film, looking

698
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: at the playbook and like you know, calling Jamie like, well,

699
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: I want to be ready.

700
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 4: You know.

701
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: It was like it was really cool for Dan to

702
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: have like redeeming moments like that. And Paul does such

703
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: a good job with conveying that because I had a

704
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like someone helping me with sides once who said, like

705
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: a coach who was like, even if you're playing someone

706
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: who's like the bad girl or the bad guy like you,

707
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: your job is to find ways to make them human

708
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: and to make people root for you even when you're terrible.

709
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: And like Paul did that so well with Dan in

710
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: this episode, Like in general, but that scene was really,

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: really really sweet.

712
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: Why is Dan Scott babysitting Jamie? Like, I get babysitters

713
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: are hard to find, but like there are people who

714
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't let watch my kids for way.

715
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: Less, you know, like, oh you mean murderers.

716
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, you know, they said a dumb thing once.

717
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't want them babysitting my kids. Yeah, Dan Scott

718
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 4: went to.

719
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: His brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

720
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't in like a like a car accident

721
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 5: and somebody died. God for a baby, But it's like

722
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 5: this man shot his sibling. He's on parole, and weirdly,

723
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: their dynamic, like actual Paul and actual Jackson's dynamic together,

724
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 5: is so sweet that I get why the writers wanted

725
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 5: more of it. But I am wondering how Nathan and

726
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 5: Haley have suspended disbelief enough to allow said murderer to

727
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 5: be the person who takes their kid out for ice.

728
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: A bit of a stretch.

729
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is Haley doing?

730
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: Is she?

731
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: Like what is happening?

732
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 5: They don't know?

733
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 4: Once you get pregnant, because look, Peyton doesn't have anything

734
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 4: to do either, you know, like, once you get pregnant

735
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: on this show, that's it you are. It's over, You're

736
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 4: locked up, done, You're just you're just sitting around waiting

737
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 4: to deliver a quip.

738
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: They just don't know what to do with you.

739
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: Oh God, almighty, letting murderers, baby sitting your kids. Yeah,

740
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: it's fine, you can have them. You guys are going

741
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: down to the river. That seems safe. Yeah, totally, it'll

742
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 4: be fine. We're all fifteen inside, Haley was being fifteen.

743
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: That's true, just.

744
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: Like it's his grandpa. No, what am.

745
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: I gonna do? No, everybody deserves a second chance.

746
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So but wait, is Mia a virgin? Do we

747
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: ever establish that?

748
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that Mia, because that's a that's a storyline,

749
00:37:54,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: that whole situation Mia ends up. There was a lot

750
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: of obsession over that, whether or not that was a

751
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: thing in real life, which is a whole, full story

752
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: for a whole on their episode. But I'm sorry, I like,

753
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm just like dropping bombs. Oh babe.

754
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 4: We've spent years going into the things she did, you know,

755
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: and we never want to force anyone into it. Oh no,

756
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 4: do you feel like the real life stuff just bled

757
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 4: over entirely into this for you?

758
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: Well? I feel like it was weird because I think

759
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: what happens sometimes when some things are real, like the

760
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: songs are my songs, you know, and me, uh, you know,

761
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: looks enough like me, you know, like her hair and

762
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: makeup was a little different, and her wardrobe was different

763
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: than mine on tour. But like things start to blend,

764
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: and so people assume that if something's happening in the story,

765
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: that that means it's also true in real life. And

766
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: so I thought the Mia, Yeah, Mia is a virgin

767
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: and she is obsessive later in I think it's later

768
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: in the show over the fact that Chase lost his

769
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: virginia to brook and she's like, oh my god, like

770
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: Brooks so pretty and blah blah blah, like oh, I'm

771
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: so and I think that's like a scene coming up.

772
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: And then and then I think she loses a virginia

773
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: to Chase, perhaps in a plane because he's a pilot.

774
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: And it's a very cute, like, you know, it's a

775
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: cute storyline, a very kind of pure like sort of

776
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you know romance that follows the same trajectory that's set

777
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: up in this episode. But there was like I felt

778
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: like I had to constantly be like that's not me

779
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: as well, like but I felt a bit like there

780
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: were certain folks or maybe one what's the singular of folks,

781
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who really wanted that to be sort

782
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: of like who asked me many man, many times in

783
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: many circumstances if that was the case in real life.

784
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but like,

785
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I have spent the last year living on a tour

786
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: bus and I went to college, Like, we don't need

787
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: to be obsessing over it's women's virginity is a big

788
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: theme I think sometimes. And it wasn't just our show

789
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: either though. It was a lot of those shows in

790
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: the early two thousands or movies like using Virginity, you know,

791
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: And it's like it was treated well in the storyline

792
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: of the show. But it was funny that in parallel,

793
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: I was like, we don't need to.

794
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 5: We don't need for this to become the focus of everything.

795
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: No, we watched Lisa Goldstein just do the Millie storyline

796
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: where she's a virgin and loses it like in a

797
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: super you know, messy way. And so it is weird

798
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: when a man is telling stories about very female experiences

799
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: because they want to feel some ownership over it. That

800
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 4: maybe off screen as well, and it's like, Oh, I'm

801
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 4: not going to fee you my truth so that you

802
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: can come up with a story that's been weird.

803
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, it's like this character, that's great, that that's

804
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: her story, and I think that's really sweet, and you know,

805
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: but it's like, let's slow down. Doesn't mean it's like

806
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: gotta be we don't need to be doing like a

807
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: deep dond sexual history as a human being.

808
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 5: Yes, it's really actually not workplace conversation at all, not really.

809
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

810
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 5: I think what's really interesting about like what you're saying, kay,

811
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 5: And that whole dynamic was for all of us, the

812
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: way it seemed like they really wanted to create a

813
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 5: blurry line between sure reality and fiction, and how that

814
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: really ramped up in later years. I mean, god, I remember,

815
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: like you know, I went to all girls school from

816
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 5: seventh grade till I graduated. I did three years of

817
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: co ed college, and it was really hard for me

818
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 5: when the show first started, like being out in the

819
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 5: world and the way people would like talk to me

820
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 5: and the way men would talk to me. I was like, Oh,

821
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: you guys think I'm promiscuous because Brooke Davis is promising

822
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: all right, it changed the way men would like speak

823
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 5: to me and approach me in public once our show

824
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: was on, like even in Wilmington, because for the first

825
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: couple of months we were there, our show wasn't on

826
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: the air, and everything was real like sweet and broke,

827
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 5: you know, the gals. And then when our show started

828
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: to air, the way everyone would talk to me was

829
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: really different. And I only share that to say, like,

830
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 5: obviously the opposite end of circumstance in the way our

831
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: characters were being portrayed, but like, oh my god, I

832
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: get how bizarre it is when everyone starts talking to

833
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: you as though your body is like their business or knowledge.

834
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 5: It's so gross. And I think it's even grosser to

835
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: sit with the fact that, you know, the conversations you

836
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: were subjected to, like the in that men harp on

837
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: women's virginity is because they think it's a thing they

838
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 5: get to win, instead of I think we choose rise

839
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 5: to shift for ourselves. With someone we pick, they think

840
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna get it, and it's like it wasn't

841
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: yours to get boom. You know, it's so gross. And

842
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: the fact that you had to deal with that from

843
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: your boss, our boss who was married who right, who

844
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 5: pretends like he was everybody's big brother figure and it's like, no, bro,

845
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: we were all just grossed out by you.

846
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just trying to survive and we're all

847
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: just like what's going on?

848
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what he does is he puts the cute

849
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 4: boys in stupid hats so that when he comes to set,

850
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 4: there's no competition.

851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, all the girls are looking at this guy.

852
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make him dress up like a golfer from

853
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: the nineteen thirties.

854
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Now you're like, it's gonna take more than a hat, honey.

855
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: He makes Steven do anything stupid.

856
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Well, he made him a really big that bartender, like

857
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: he was a terrible bartending and stuff.

858
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: Like he just can't make a drink.

859
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a gelding that all the boys went through, yep,

860
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 4: right where it was like, we're gonna have to make

861
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 4: you a dork. There's a screw loose somewhere around.

862
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna emasculate you in one way or the other.

863
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 5: It's like, well, sir, maybe if you weren't wearing leather

864
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 5: pants with a high up the crotch, you wouldn't be emasculated,

865
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 5: but that was your choice.

866
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: That was your choice, and that's why chose your choice.

867
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: It's not working the way you think it is.

868
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Speaker 5: You know what I want to end on, because you

869
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: know I would love to set our boss on fire

870
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 5: all day. But there was, despite that stupid hat, so

871
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: much sweet energy for Julian and for me and Chase

872
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: and Nathan and Haley and even with Dan. I never

873
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 5: thought i'd say it, even Dan, that's what you want

874
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: to end on you guys, because again you made this

875
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 5: point that we're all having a second adolescent. Since the

876
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 5: conversation between the two of you in Lucas's room is

877
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: so sweet. I loved it so much because you managed

878
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: to say I don't want this in a way that

879
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 5: wasn't critical at all. Like what I realized I was

880
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: watching was Peyton Sawyer. I was watching my on screen

881
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: best friend, who's been one of my best friends in

882
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: the world for two decades, literally sit down and choose

883
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 5: her own dream come true. Like you said to him.

884
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: I've always pictured myself wearing Keith's ring, and you just

885
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 5: were like, that's what I want. It's what I've wanted

886
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 5: since high school. I want what I want with you

887
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 5: and I want it forever, and I cried. I was like,

888
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: oh my god, this is so sweet, Like I really

889
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 5: really loved it. I loved it so much. I'm like

890
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 5: I'm feeling very emo even now. It was perfect.

891
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: I liked the combo of finding out the truth about

892
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: Julian that he didn't go to Sundayance, he didn't some

893
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: other girl, and it not shaking Peyton's reality in the least.

894
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 4: Like it not for one second. Is she like, maybe

895
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 4: I messed up with Julian like it. No, Her concern is, oh, oh,

896
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: I gotta go tell my best friend because she likes him.

897
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna stay on my path. And seeing Peyton stay

898
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: on her path is something that I like because as

899
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 4: a woman who in real life has really just laid

900
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: down some hard decisions and been like I'm gonna stick

901
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: with this, I like seeing a young person know their

902
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: truth and be like, let's just do it. So. I

903
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 4: remember filming that with Chad. I remember filming with him

904
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: out at the water where our characters first met, and

905
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 4: that was like a really big moment for he and

906
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 4: I personally, because that pilot was scary, Like I got

907
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 4: yelled at on the pilot. Yeah, because there was an

908
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: alligator and I got really scared and I couldn't remember

909
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 4: my lines, and like I mean fair, it was it

910
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 4: was like a one of those like it was over

911
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: stimulation and so in the moment when we filmed there

912
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: originally it was really like stressful, and so we got

913
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 4: to go back almost six years later as grown ups

914
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: in a really low stress, really celebratory way, and so

915
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: that was that was nice. And I like I just

916
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: like content, Brook and Peyton like not Brook and Payton,

917
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: I like, well, I like them content too. I like content.

918
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: Who's the love story? I like Content? Peyton and Lucas.

919
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too. It's so sweet. Yeah.

920
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 4: Just happiness feels good.

921
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 5: Happiness looks good on everyone. Everyone deserves it.

922
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: And now we have mea to write songs about our happiness.

923
00:47:51,080 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 7: We sure do, baby, Yes, happy songs.

924
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: We have a fan question for you from Maddie. Well,

925
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 5: we know from our wonderful Q and A episode with

926
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 5: you that it's not Pool, but she wants to know

927
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 5: what your favorite hobby actually is.

928
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: That's a great question. No, unfortunately is not Pool. My

929
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: favorite hobby is it's kind of like part of my

930
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: work too. But it's art like painting, painting and drawing

931
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like I that was kind of my first

932
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: love yeah, as a kid, and it's just something that

933
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: like quiets my mind. Like I just love it so much,

934
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: do it all day long?

935
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're really good at it. Yeah, it's nice

936
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: to have a hobby that you're like great at.

937
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

938
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: What's easier for somebody to become a hobby? Right, Like

939
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: if you're bad, you know, if you're like terrible at something.

940
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: I also like, I mean French. Learning French has been

941
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: like a huge hoby for me. And you can't be

942
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: good at that, right, you know, it takes forever to

943
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: be good at that. So languages are like something that

944
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: fascinates me too. But it's a different thing getting to

945
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 1: like a hobby where you're not good at it a first.

946
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: It's like humbling to say the least.

947
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 5: I want to be as disciplined as you. I For

948
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 5: the last like five years, I keep saying my year's

949
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 5: resolution this year is to relearn French, and every year

950
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 5: I go that just that escaped me. But maybe maybe

951
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 5: this year, maybe next year, maybe never.

952
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: What's your hobby?

953
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 5: So mine?

954
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your hobby?

955
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 5: Oh? I don't know. Probably like democratic volunteering. Really, you're

956
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 5: going to make sure we don't lose the right to vote.

957
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 4: Writing for women's rights.

958
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like making way more of a difference than me

959
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: is speaking in French.

960
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 4: I just agree because if we.

961
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 5: All have to move out of America because you know,

962
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 5: women have no rights here, we're going to need to

963
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 5: go with you to France. So well, dude, we'll get.

964
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 4: There one way or another. Indeed, for sure, mind sets

965
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: in between you guys. I am throwing the spring flag

966
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 4: our school ptso. So it's a little bit of advocacy

967
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,919
Speaker 4: and a little bit of art. So if anyone wants

968
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 4: to come and help me make big, huge paper flowers,

969
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 4: that's where we're at right now, like tissue paper.

970
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 5: You are the best art mom, Like you're the pta

971
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: mom I always wanted and that I hope to be someday.

972
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 4: It's true. It's just chaos constantly. I love chaos. All right,

973
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: let's spin a wheel, baby, Kate. You know how this works.

974
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 5: Most don't know, you, guys. We do superlatives every week.

975
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 5: The most likely to like in a yearbook, but we

976
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 5: do it with this little wheel.

977
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: Okay, the winner most likely to respond to the Instagram

978
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: haters ooh.

979
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: Oh, because you have to pick a character from the show,

980
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: but then like a real life friend of ours from

981
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 4: the show character and real life, I mean, Sophia will

982
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 4: throw down. She will with venom.

983
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 5: I don't like when people are mean to my friends

984
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 5: on the internet. I don't like her.

985
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: You defend Like one of my core memories one of

986
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks that I was in Wilmington,

987
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know anyone, and I was so overwhelmed and

988
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: just like, not intimidated by you guys, but just by

989
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: the experience. We were all at the bar, one of

990
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the bars on Front Street, and someone stole my clutch,

991
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: and I mean, we hardly knew each other, so and

992
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,720
Speaker 1: you ran up to the girl and said, hey, that's

993
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: my friend's purse and you're not gonna steal it.

994
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 8: And I was like, holy shit, that is the nicest

995
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 8: thing anyone's done for me. It made suck, It made

996
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 8: me feel so like welcome, and I was just like, wow,

997
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 8: thank you so much, like this girl who's been here

998
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 8: for years and already has like her friend group and anyways,

999
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 8: so yes, I think you are very fiercely defensive of

1000
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 8: your friends.

1001
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: In a way that I admire very much, sweet soul,

1002
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: You're dangerous.

1003
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 5: I kind of can't help it. And then it's funny

1004
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 5: because my friends will be like, why don't you stand

1005
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 5: up for yourself like that? And I'm like, shut up, No,

1006
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 5: that's my shut up. What do you mean? And that's

1007
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 5: the thing, like we all do it for each other.

1008
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 5: And I think maybe that's why it's so special.

1009
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: Who on the show, what character is like? Not today, I.

1010
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 5: Weirdly feel like I don't know why I'm picturing a

1011
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 5: scene in my head of like Bevin in Facebook group chats,

1012
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 5: just like responding to people in the best ways, like

1013
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 5: because her character had the best one liners. Yes, I

1014
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: feel like TV Bevin would be the most hilarious, like

1015
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: clapback Queen of the Internet.

1016
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 2: She would.

1017
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 4: But I like that you limited it to Facebook, like

1018
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: because it.

1019
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 5: Can't be like so current, right, it's got to have

1020
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 5: a joke built in.

1021
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 4: No moms are on Facebook. That is the mom site

1022
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: of choice, and that's how we organize that shit. Yeah,

1023
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 4: I listen. I love Facebook. I'm out here, you just

1024
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: looking up people I used to know and cousege I

1025
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: love it.

1026
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it's made for you know, like all

1027
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: this new stuff like marketplace, like okay, sure, sure, sure,

1028
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: it's made for like keeping tabs on people from the

1029
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: past and like sniffing out bullshit.

1030
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 4: She's just like, yes, I'm gonna do a little homework today, Kate.

1031
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: We love having you stay forever.

1032
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: Oh you guys, it's so fun to see you. Thanks

1033
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: so much for having me back. I will any any

1034
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: any time. It's so wonderful to see you guys, and

1035
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: so fun to talk about the show.

1036
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 5: Finally, it's so wonderful.

1037
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 4: If you need backup dancers for your music videos with girls,

1038
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 4: you know who to call.

1039
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Always you guys. Honestly, your future goes backup dancers. We

1040
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: are we are always hiring and you guys don't even

1041
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: have to audition, like immediate hire.

1042
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 5: I'm so ready.

1043
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: I love it.

1044
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, boom, we could ab oh we should be backup dancer.

1045
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: Ghosts so cool just.

1046
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 5: Saying Halloween Show. We're ready, We're ready to go. All right, friends,

1047
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 5: this has been so much fun. We will see you

1048
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 5: back here next week for season six, episode sixteen. Screenwriters Blues.

1049
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 5: I have a hunch Vanderbeek might be a real pain

1050
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 5: in the ass to our boys. And I can't wait

1051
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: to see him do it.

1052
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 4: Love it.

1053
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 5: For you next week, kuties.

1054
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks for listening.

1055
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Speaker 5: Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also

1056
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1058
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