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Speaker 1: there's supposed to be on the sidelines of the summit.

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Speaker 1: So we're talking about two major meetings, and of course

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Speaker 1: TV as well. I'm Kevin Crelli. You're listening to Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: This is Sound on with Kevin D two Boltimore. What

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Speaker 1: a day Shacobs at the White House. Stephanie Grisham gets

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Speaker 1: Sarah Sanders job. She's now the White House Press Secretary.

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Speaker 1: I remember back in the Steen campaign, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: flying around the three going everywhere, Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Grisham traveled with the Traveling Press Court. She was,

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Speaker 1: she was in there, she was an early staffer there.

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Speaker 1: We heard from Sean Spicer earlier on and and she's

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Speaker 1: And now she's got this job and a lot, a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot going on for her to let's navigate through.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I think that she understands. Look,

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Speaker 1: whether you like Trump or you don't like Trump, she

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Speaker 1: been there from the beginning, especialing gears. Then, if you've

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Speaker 1: been following this, it's a fascinating issue. President Trump wants

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Speaker 1: forget this, it's not just how many people are in America,

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Speaker 1: have so much funding that's been provided to you to

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Speaker 1: So we should just get it right. It's a fascinating issue.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court could rule, The Supreme Court of the

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Speaker 1: could happen, tomorrow, could happen this week. Jordan Fabian, he

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Speaker 1: interview President Trump yesterday. You asked him about the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: whether or not he will vacancy on it between now

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Speaker 1: Do you have any recommendation? We have a big list,

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Speaker 1: right I do. I have a good list. I have

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Speaker 1: a good list already chosen. I have a beautiful list

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Speaker 1: of great, very talented people. Absolutely. But do you square

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Speaker 1: tell you that. All right, Sean, what do you you're

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Speaker 1: you know you're the executive director of the Attorney Generals

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Attorney General's Association. When you hear Georgian's exclusive

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Speaker 1: interview with President Trump yesterday, you know what, what's your

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Speaker 1: response that we're not you know, we've seen this for

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Speaker 1: that was made by Mitch McConnell, you know, prior to

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Speaker 1: about the debate, Seawan and Jordans, because come on, I mean,

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how he does. I

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy who likes to go on at length.

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Speaker 1: So are the Zingers ready? We'll see. Yeah. So one

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, part of what I think the

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Speaker 1: But people are looking for someone to step up and

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Speaker 1: it's not about taking out someone else, is about showing

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Speaker 1: in for the first time, do they look presidential? Can?

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Speaker 1: I can I imagine this guy in the Oval office.

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Speaker 1: of is thrust her back into the big picture. But uh, look,

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Speaker 1: presidential debates. I mean that was it was, It was truly. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're they're just fascinating the drama at these want to

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Speaker 1: thank Sewn Rankin, executive director of the Democratic Attorney General's

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Speaker 1: Association Louisville, Louisville native, and Jordan Fabian, White House correspondent

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Speaker 1: President Trump. Our thanks also the Senator Tim Scott and

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