1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: We begin in the world of sports. The University of 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 3: Connecticut is on top of the world. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 4: It is a Yukon coronation, the Husky's march history back 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 4: to back national champions. 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: That call courtesy of TBS. The Huskies did win the 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: NCAA men's title over fellow number one seed Produce seventy 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 3: five to sixty. And Yukon's not the only one we 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: have to congratulate this morning. A special shout out to 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Whitney wolf Herd, the founder and executive chair of Bumble, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: won the annual Bloomberg Brackets for a Cause with a 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 3: score of one hundred and seventy one, and her prize 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 3: money will go to the charity of her choice, Baby 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: to Baby. We will have much more on the big 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: game in sports in a few minutes. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: All right, Nathan, will we now turn to be a 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: of me and Former Federal Reserve policymaker James Buellerd says 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 2: his base case is three interest rate cuts. 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: This year. 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: He cited successful policy in a strong economy but said 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: more data is still needed before multiple cuts. 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 5: Some people are saying that the next report will lead 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 5: to core PC being only two point six percent on 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 5: a twelve month basis, So you're starting to get close enough. 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 5: I think you have enough data in hand right now 28 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 5: to justify the first rate cut. Maybe not a whole 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 5: string of ray cuts, but you could certainly justify the 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 5: first raycut now based on the data that they have. 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: And former Saint Louis FED president James Bueller's outlook echoes 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: the effed's messaging on monetary policy this year, but contrasts 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: with growing market expectations for fewer cuts. Here the full 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: conversation on the Bloomberg Talks podcast feed, available wherever you 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 3: Well, Karen, there are even some officials seeing the potential 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: for no cuts at all this year, among them Minneapolis 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: FED President Neil Cash cut sor. 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 6: My base case scenario is that inflation will continue to 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 6: fall this year, and I jotted down in March that 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 6: we would have two infrast rate cuts twenty five basis 42 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: points over the course of this year, So that was 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: my base case scenario. Then I explained, if we don't 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 6: see any progress on inflation and inflation move sideways, then 45 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 6: that would make me question why would we cut interest rates. 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: Minneapolis Fed President Neil Keshkari made those comments yesterday at 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: an event at the University of Montana. 48 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Well, the market waits for rapcuts, Nathan. The whole country 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: is going to have to wait another twenty one years 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: to witness what we saw yesterday. Millions from Texas to 51 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: Maine were dazzled by a total solar eclipse. Just about 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: everyone in North America got to see at least part 53 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: of the sun blocked out. These people had a clear 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: view in Niagara Falls. 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so cool. 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 7: Holes through the side, unbelievable. My aunt actually came here 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 7: from California, so. 58 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Glad, I said, I'm going to come here and it's 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: absolutely changing. 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 7: And I'm a science teacher, so it's my bucket list. 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 2: And the path of totality for this eclipse crossed through 62 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: several major cities including Dallas, Indianapolis, Cleveland, and Buffalo, New York, 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: and estimated forty four million people live on the track 64 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: that saw the moon pass in front of the Sun 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: for a full four minutes and twenty eight seconds. 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite the show. Karen Well, Now we 67 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: turn to the latest legal developments involving Donald Trump. A 68 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: New York appeals judge has rejected the former president's attempt 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: to delay his hush money criminal trial. Bloomberg Zed Baxter 70 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: has the details. 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: So this means the jury selection is on the dock 72 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: at to begin next Monday. The fifteenth Appeals Court Justice 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 4: Elizabeth Gonzalez denying the attempt to not start the trial 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: on time, rejecting the emergency state. Now, Trump's attorneys are 75 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: also challenging the gag order prohibiting him from making comments 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: about Judge Merschawan's family, as well the judge rule that 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 4: potential jurors will be asked whether they belong to groups 78 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: like Antifa and QAnon, as well as whether they've been 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 4: to rallies in support of or in opposition to Trump 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: at Baxter Bloomberg Radio. 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: All right, ed, Thanks, Well, there's a new development in 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: the January sixth case against former President Trump. Special counsel 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: Jack Smith is asking the Supreme Court to reject Trump's 84 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: immunity claims and allow a speedy trial Overs' efforts to 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: overturn the twenty twenty election. The justices will hear arguments 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: on April twenty fifth in our schedule to rule by 87 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 2: the end of June. Smith needs a clear cut victory 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: to have any chance of putting Trump on trial before 89 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: the November election. 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: Karen, It's been a rough couple of days for former 91 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: President Trump. On Wall Street. Shares of Trump Media and 92 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: Technology Group, the parent company of his Truth social platform, 93 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: have lost thirty six percent since late last month. More 94 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: on that from Bloomberg Stug Prisner. 95 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 8: For Trump Media, some two point eight billion dollars in 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 8: market value has been wiped out since March twenty sixth, 97 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 8: and for Trump himself, his paper windfall has been reduced 98 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 8: by some one point six billion dollars. His stake is 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 8: now worth roughly two point nine billion. Now for Trump 100 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 8: to capture a benefit, he'll have to wait six months 101 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 8: before he can sell shares under a lock up agreement. 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 8: Trump Media now has a market cap of roughly five 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 8: billion dollars. Last year, this company generated just four point 104 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 8: one million in revenue in New York. I'm Doug Prisner, 105 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Radio. 106 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 2: All right, Doug, thanks from Wall Street. 107 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 7: To Washington. 108 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell is weighing in on TikTok, 109 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: and that could spark the effort to pass a bill 110 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: that would effectively ban the video sharing app in the 111 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: United States. Bloomberg j Amy Morris reports from the nation's capital. 112 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Senator McConnell says requiring ByteDance to divest from the video 113 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: sharing app is squarely within established constitutional President on the 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: Senate Flora McConnell says China's influence has been baked in 115 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: from the beginning. 116 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 9: One hundred and seventy million Americans are active users from 117 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 9: a social media platform at the People's Republic of China. 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 9: Treachs as a tool of surveillance and proper. 119 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Caranda McConnell backs a bipart as an effort to pass 120 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: the bill forcing the China based parent company to sell TikTok. 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer has yet to commit to 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: bringing the bill to the floor in Washington. Amy Morris, 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio, All right. 124 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 7: Amy, thank you. 125 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: In company news, Tesla has reached a settlement on the 126 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: eve of its highest profiled trial yet over a crash 127 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: blamed on auto Pilot. That's the driver assistance system that 128 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: Elon Musk has built as crucial to his pursuit of 129 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: self driving cars. Terms of the settlement were not disclosed. 130 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Nathan General Motors CRU's autonomous driving business is preparing 131 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: to resume testing its robotaxis with safety drivers in Phoenix. 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: Sources AGM is set to announce and begin the testing 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: as early as today. Analysts say this marks an important 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: step in GM's attempts to resume service after grounding its 135 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: fleet to last year. And it's time now for a 136 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: look at some of the other stories making news in 137 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: New York and around the world, and we're joined by 138 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 139 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 8: Michael, good Morning, Good morning, Karenny. 140 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 10: Israeli leaders plan is set for military operations in the 141 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 10: southern Gaza city of Rafa, where more than a million 142 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 10: civilians have gathered. State Department spokes from Matthew Miller said 143 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 10: the Biden administration is strongly urging Israel against the operation. 144 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 11: We have made clear to Israel that we think a 145 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 11: full scale military invasion of Rafa would have an enormously 146 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 11: harmful effect on those civilians, and then it would ultimately 147 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 11: hurt Israel's securities. 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 10: Meanwhile, Paul Francis met with the family of hostages at 149 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 10: the Vatican still being held by hamas evil. 150 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 7: He called them bad guys and evil, and he was 151 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 7: very clear that the hostages need to come home. 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: I think you know we can all agree. 153 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 10: And Turkey announced restrictions on exports to Israel. The list 154 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 10: includes more than fifty items, including construction materials. Turkey said 155 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 10: it was taking measures against Israel after it opposed planned 156 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 10: Turkish aid drip over the Guyza Strip. Three people are dead, 157 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 10: including the gunman, after a shooting inside the Las Vegas 158 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 10: law office. Police say it was just after ten am 159 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 10: local time when shots rang out in Attorney Dennis Prince's 160 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 10: law office. Lieutenant Jason Johansson with the Las Vegas Police 161 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 10: says the shooter killed himself after shooting the two victims. 162 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: One deceased victim is a female in our thirties, another 163 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: one is a. 164 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Male in his fifties. 165 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 10: Our suspect is also. 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 11: Deceased hereund scene, and he is a male in his seventies. 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 10: Lieutenant Johansson says the victims were apparently the shooters intended 168 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 10: target President Joe Biden and Japan's Prime Minister Fumio Kasheita 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 10: planned form a consul on defense industries and allow shipyard 170 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 10: workers in Japan to perform more maintenance work on US 171 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 10: Navy ships as they look to shore up their military alliance. 172 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 10: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 173 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 10: want it with the Bloomberg News Now Michael Barr, this 174 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 10: is bloum hern all. 175 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 7: Right, Michael Burr. 176 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: Thanks, that's time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update with 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: John stash Hour. 178 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 12: John, Thanks, carav Remarkable what the Yukon Huskies have done 179 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 12: the last two years, back to back national championships, first 180 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 12: to do it since Florida in two thousand and six 181 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 12: and seven. So they won a dozen consecutive games and 182 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 12: not one of them particularly close. In Phoenix, Yukon won 183 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 12: the first half with Purdue thirty six to thirty, won 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 12: the second half thirty nine to thirty. Won the game 185 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 12: seventy five to sixty. Did it as usual with balance. 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 12: Tristan Newton led the way this time twenty points seven 187 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 12: as says five rebounds. Coach Dan Hurley asked to compare 188 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 12: this title with last year. 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 13: Maybe it feels a little bit better because it's like 190 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 13: the last thing, knowing how great this team's been, we've 191 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 13: taken you know, you know, we've worn the everything shirt 192 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 13: the whole year, and we just everyone in this organization 193 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 13: gave everything so that we could win everything. 194 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 12: This year, Perdue had its best season in forty four years. 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 12: Zach EDI's career ends. Two time National Player the year 196 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 12: last night defeat, he scored thirty seven. We'll see what 197 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 12: the ratings were, but overall viewership almost certainly not what 198 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 12: the women got. Eighteen points seven million tuned in for 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 12: that South Carolina Iowa game. The last five years, only 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 12: football and the Olympics have had more viewers in Atlanta 201 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 12: the honor of the late Henry Aaron. It was the 202 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 12: fiftieth anniversary of his home run to break baby both 203 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 12: record and then the Mets Brandon Nimo made like Aaron, 204 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 12: hit two, had four hits, drove in five the Mets 205 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 12: with a come from behind eight to seven win over 206 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 12: the Brains. Yankees also used the long ball, a pair 207 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 12: of three run shots in the fourth and eight, first 208 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 12: Anthony Volpe, then Juan Soto his first in the Bronx. 209 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 12: Yanks all over the Marlins seven nothing. The Yanks are 210 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 12: ninety two, the Marlins are one and ten. Shoeyotani his 211 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 12: third home run as a Dodger, came in a four 212 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 12: to two win at Minnesota. Mike Trout, already his fifth 213 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 12: of the season, Angels over Tampa Bay seven to one. 214 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 12: The Nationals beat the Giants eight to one. Blitz still 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 12: roughed up this Giants debut. Nickson Chicago Tonight at the 216 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 12: Ubs Arena. It's the Rangers and Islanders, if possible playoff 217 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 12: preview John Stashedward, Bloomberg Sports. 218 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Karen, all right, John, thank you. Is there a pretty 219 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: much little change this morning in the ten year treasury 220 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: yield is at four point thirty nine percent. 221 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 10: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, and. 222 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 4: Around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg 223 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: Business app. 224 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. At 225 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: first there was several rate cuts. Now it might be 226 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: just one or none at all. Investors are trying to 227 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: figure out just how much, if at all, the Federal 228 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: Reserve will cut rates this year. Began twenty twenty four 229 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: expecting several cuts throughout the year. Well, Former Saint Louis 230 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: FED President James Bullard says he still thinks we can 231 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 3: see multiple cuts this year. He sat down with Bloomberg's 232 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: hustling to Amin on the sidelines of HSBC's Global Investment 233 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: summit in Hong Kong. Let's go now to part of 234 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,119 Speaker 3: that conversation. 235 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 5: I think at this point you should probably take the 236 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 5: Committee on the Chair at face value. I think their 237 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 5: best guest right now is still three cuts this year, 238 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 5: and of course the data can go one way or another, 239 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 5: but that's the base case. I think it's been a 240 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 5: very successful policy. The policy rate was increased a lot 241 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: during twenty twenty two, and inflation fell quite a bit 242 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: in the second half of twenty twenty three. Last year, 243 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 5: at this time, core PC inflation would have been two 244 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 5: hundred basis points higher than it is right now. That's 245 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 5: the committee's favorite measure. So you're looking at a very 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 5: successful policy with a pretty strong economy. So a lot 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 5: of things going. 248 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 7: Right for the FED right now. So Powell has been 249 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 7: right so far. 250 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's been right so far, and the 251 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: Committee's been right so far to pursue an aggressive strategy 252 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: to bring inflation back to target. Most of that was 253 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two, and then you bore the fruit 254 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty three and into twenty twenty four. 255 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 14: Here we talked about how so the FED is data dependent? 256 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 7: Paul himself says he is data dependent. What exactly does that. 257 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 14: Mean and which data in particular is he looking at 258 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 14: should be looking at? 259 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 5: I think right now, I think it's mostly the inflation data, 260 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 5: because on the real side of the economy, things are 261 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 5: going very well, and you can argue about why, but 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 5: they're going very well. The Committee doesn't really have to 263 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 5: worry about that side of the mandate right now. All 264 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: they've got to worry about is getting inflation back to 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 5: the two percent target, and they've come a long ways back. 266 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 5: Already was four point eight percent now two point eight 267 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 5: percent core PC inflation on a twelve month basis. That 268 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: means you've only got eight tenths of one percent to go, 269 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: And some people are saying that the next report will 270 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 5: lead to core PC being only two point six percent 271 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: on a twelve month basis, So you're starting to get 272 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: close enough. I think you have enough data in hand 273 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 5: right now to justify the first break. Maybe not a 274 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 5: whole string of ray cuts, but you could certainly justify 275 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 5: the first ray cut now based on the data that 276 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 5: they have. 277 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 14: We talk about how the US economy is very strong. 278 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: So would you say that the risk in the US 279 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 7: economy right now is. 280 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 14: Inflation and not growth? Fair to say that that's I 281 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 14: think that's right. Yeah, Why is the US economy so resilient? 282 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 14: I mean, not too long ago we were expecting a 283 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 14: recession one hundred percent or you know, priced in of 284 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 14: a recession. 285 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 7: Yes, here we are with a very resilient economy. 286 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 287 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 5: Last year, at this time, you had the bank failure 288 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: of a Silicon Valley bank and other banks, smaller banks 289 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: around the country. That was overinterpreted to mean that the 290 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: US was going into recession. I don't think it was 291 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: ever a good story to tell, because yes, their banks failed, 292 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 5: but they're only a small fragment of the total banking 293 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: and the total intermediation sector in the US economy. So 294 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: I think that card was overplayed. And not only did 295 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 5: the US not go into recession in the second half 296 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 5: of twenty twenty three, but the economy actually boomed in 297 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 5: the second half of twenty twenty three, so you really 298 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 5: got a very strong outcome and that has continued into 299 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 5: the first part of twenty twenty four. Here, although I 300 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 5: would say we're we're going to be closer to the 301 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: trend growth right now, not way above trend the way 302 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: we were during the last six months of twenty twenty three. 303 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 14: Some people talk about the US economy being a two 304 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 14: track economy. 305 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 7: What's the risk in that? What do you mean by 306 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 7: two tracks? There's some parts of the economy that's actually 307 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 7: very weak. 308 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's always the case, probably in any 309 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: really big economy. There are always some things that aren't 310 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 5: going so well, or some markets where there are problems. 311 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: But I think that it's very encouraging that the overall 312 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: picture is very strong for the US. 313 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 7: You took about the risk. 314 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 14: Of the fact possibly being behind target, behind the CoV 315 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 14: so to speak, how do you assess that risk that 316 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 14: it may be behind the CoV. 317 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that this has really come into 318 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 5: view yet because things are going so well. So it's 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: a good problem to have. The economedy is doing well, 320 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 5: inflesh is coming down. But if you don't pay attention 321 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 5: to everything that could happen, you might weigh the probabilities 322 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 5: a little bit off. So it's maybe a minor problem 323 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 5: to have, but it's just something you keep an eye on. 324 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: In the monks, I haead. 325 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: That was former Saint Louis Fed President James Bullard speaking 326 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: with Bloomberg's Hustling to a Me and catch the full 327 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: conversation on the Bloomberg Talks podcast. 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