WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What Gives? 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:09.559 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:11.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:20.880 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a Break? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:21.440 Yes? 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:23.320 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:24.120 Absolutely? 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.239 Ready for a break? 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.479 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.879 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:40.519 with mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.560 It is Thursday, September fifth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.320 episode number twenty three. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.920 The Breakwere Alive from the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.280 presented by LGLG is the world's number one OLED TV 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:57.480 brand for eleven years in counting. See why at LG 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.520 dot com Ford slash o leed E. It is moving 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:04.360 closer and closer to the beginning of the NFL season. Actually, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.880 the NFL kicks off tonight, first game of the season, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:12.120 Chiefs Ravens. Should be fun. We'll get you ready for 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:14.440 Cowboys Browns. That's what we're going to spend the most 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.679 of this show doing. But I think maybe towards nnis show. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.120 We'll see if we get some picks on the game 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.080 for the night. See what you guys, think about what's 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:26.000 happening around the NFL for tonight Worthy anytime. If you're thinking, 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:27.919 you were thinking, I got a host the show tomorrow, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.240 why I'm taking things that I'm gonna use tomorrow. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.040 You gotta give us your pick though, for Cowboys versus Browns? 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:35.920 Do you want to make it now? 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:36.639 Go ahead? 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:44.800 Cowboys score Cowboys by three? Give me? Give me seventeen fourteen. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:46.920 Okay, you're very close to mine. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:49.200 You were seventeen thirteen on the radio. Yes, I was 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:51.920 a good job. By the way. The wait, what were 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:52.360 you on the radio? 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.000 Seventeen thirteen? Cows seventy thirteen? 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:57.240 Yeah, actually that's better than seventeen fourteen. Can I change 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.760 my seventeen thirty fighter? 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:01.559 Wow? 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.200 No, But we're not gonnat too far into that. But yes, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.280 that's my that's my belief. I believe, I believe the 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.200 Cowboys him. But I actually think we're gonna get into 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.360 today This Cleveland defense is ain't no joke, Like this 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:13.639 is gonna be a game. This is gonna be a 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.080 tough one. But I also think it's strength versus strength, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.120 and that's what we'll spend a lot of time talking 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.560 about today. As we talk about that matchup between the 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.480 Cowboys offense and the Browns defense. Let's start right now, 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.480 though with a couple of injuries. Cowboys have only one 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:28.160 on the injury report that didn't. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.680 Keep scrolling for their practice report. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.720 It's good's names over there, but let's start with with 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.520 the Cowboys one person, John Stevens. Uh, he did not 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.760 practice with a hamstring injury. I guess my question is 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.840 how serious is this and then we'll talk about maybe 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.640 what the chances are if he doesn't play, What what 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:48.959 does it look like for the Cowboys. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.560 Yeah, I think I think this is something to definitely 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.760 keep an eye on going into the week. As it 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.200 sounds right now and talking to some people, this is 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.680 an injury that you know, could keep him out on Sunday. 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.119 They're going to try to ramp him in and try 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.120 to get him involved as Thursday, Friday and then that 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.600 Saturday walkthrough gets going. But John Stevens, that's probably the 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.160 only question mark you have going into the week now. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.440 If he can't go, you still have guys like Princeton 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.200 Fant on the practice squad that if you want to 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.840 elevate for special teams purposes or to be involved with 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.399 that tight end room. You could you also have Hunter Lipke, 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:21.280 who's taken a lot more tight end reps during training camp. 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.600 He could step into a role like that, but it 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.520 would definitely take away a receiving option for Dak Prescott 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.640 if John Stevens is not able to go. Did you 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.080 want to touch on the Browns as well. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:31.840 We're going to get to that, okay. I wanted to 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.040 first talk a little bit about Stevens and maybe what 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.640 this means. Brian Amber, what do you guys think this 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.520 means for that the team if they can't have him 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.560 out there, because we are I think we all agree 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.080 he really is tight end two on this team, and 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:45.080 what does this mean for them? 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.880 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. Tight End two is 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.960 where I would put John Stevens. And I think John 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:54.400 Stevens is a backside tight end if you go twelve personnel, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.560 there are things he could do on the back end 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.560 athletically to help you in the running game, because sometimes 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.560 he's make where we've seen him go off. Really that 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.360 guards block the center, combination center guard combination block tackle. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.800 It doesn't really bounce the outside. It kind of starts 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.360 outside and then works to the middle or through the middle, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:14.760 that's where they seem to pop some of these runs. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.279 But on the backside, if you're twelve personnel, you have 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.159 to have a tight end that's athletic enough to be able. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.719 You're probably gonna play with like the schoon maker maybe 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:24.240 even I don't know how much you want to put 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.159 ferguson at the point of attack, but there you are. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:28.800 And so you you need. 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.240 That backside guy to be able to be an athlete. 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.440 And the link that Stevens has, you know, we haven't 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.360 really seen it, you know much for me either. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:38.719 With span Ford, I know we talked about. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.000 Him and could he be a guy that's inactive, but 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.599 he's clearly into the mix. Now, uh, there's another rookie 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.240 that's going to get an opportunity. You mentioned all the 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.919 rookies that you know are potentially going to start in 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.200 this game. Well here's another one. If if Stevens can't go, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.520 then you're probably looking at span forward maybe getting some 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.800 opportunities to do some backside block and maybe some point 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.400 of tack blocking. But that also takes a vertical player, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.159 you know. The one thing that the Browns will do 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.479 and we'll get into this the secondary. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:08.320 Well, you know, you want to. 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.640 It's the corners are good, there's quality at the nickel, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.480 there's quality on both sides. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:14.839 The safeties. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.240 Can you take advantage of some of their safety coverage, 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.560 you know when the linebacker coverage. And that's where I 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.360 think Stevens could be sneaky in this game and you 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:24.320 might miss him there. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:29.159 Typically I wouldn't be too concerned about someone like him missing, 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.480 or someone at the tight end position missing, But this 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.400 game it's key because you're, in my mind, you're having 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.680 to rely on a tight end to help blocked. Just 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.920 like Brian said, in many situations, especially considering that you're 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.359 gonna have potentially these two rookie guys starting in the line. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.920 You got Cooper BB and the Tyler guy in and 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.039 you want to be able to bring whatever extra help 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.279 you can, at least in these first couple of weeks. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.400 So that's going to be a challenge in that sense 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.240 that you're I mean, at least me, we were thinking 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.479 that a guy like him, especially in the blocking game, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.440 because obviously you got other guys that can catch the ball. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.400 Oh my god, why am I blanking on his name? 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:18.200 The starter? Uhson Jesus Christ, Uh, here we go. But Jake, Yeah, 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.359 I will stop it. Here we go, here we go. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:29.480 Let me. Okay, that's one. That's one for you step back. No, 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.880 But you know, Jake Ferguson, he's great catching the ball 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:35.880 and all of that. But I do think sometimes in 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.000 the in the blocking game, he he, he wouldn't necessarily 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.880 be the guy that I would relying on blocking. But 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:48.560 also maybe with Zeke being here, but then you also 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.240 want to take advantage of the running game. But also 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.719 I don't know, like looking at Zeke to potentially be 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.680 a guy that could be utilized a little bit more 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:56.600 to help block. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.960 Yeah, you know, you make a great point about that week, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.200 but also think about Hunter Lipkey. Yeah, you know that's 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.640 if you need a if you need somebody to play 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.279 as that wing or I don't know how much you 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.480 want to put him in line next to the tackle 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:11.280 that awhere. 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.640 Yeah, Hunter Lipkey. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.400 For president for sure. But the the thing the thing 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.480 with that they have options. I just want to say though, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.720 that Stevens was to me was making so much progress. 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.560 Probably not as good as what he was before the injury, 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.320 but man, you could see that the play that I 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.239 know was a fumble, but the ball down the field 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:34.360 you could see the arc release up the same ball there. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.440 Now he's running. That's the kind of things you get. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.240 You're gonna need some guys that some chunk plays in 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.000 this game. If you could pull them off, They're probably 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.680 going to be few and far between, But if you 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:44.640 get an opportunity. 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:48.400 You never know who's always talking about the X factor players? 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.920 You know, who's not? Who do you not talking about that? 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.000 You know, Stevens could have been one of those guys 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.600 For me, if you'd asked the question, give me an 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.520 X factor player for. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.720 This game, I'm gonna say that Stevens. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.680 Get it tied end you gotta they're going to run, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.800 move the pocket, boots, waggle stuff like that. Downfield player, 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:05.960 this guy might make two or three catches that could 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:07.160 be difference maker catches. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.120 Yeah, and it's not necessarily that Jake Ferguson cannot do 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.080 those same things right. It's more so just having that 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:13.400 multiple option. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.080 If you want to go twelve personnel to maybe handle 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:17.800 some of the block and stuff that you're going to 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:18.440 have to deal with. 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.520 You know, it's disappointing for me is that we'd had 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.880 that whole conversation about how they handle the potential of 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.600 him not being in there, and nobody mentioned Schoonmaker, the 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.960 second round pick from last year. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:29.560 I was just thinking about him because that's one of 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.679 the things that we talked about him when the Cowboys 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.880 drafted him was his block blocking abilities. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.240 Yeah, that's you know, you'd love to have one of 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.560 these games where we get together on Monday and we 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.720 talk about this and we've all watched the tape and 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.360 you're like, damn that eighty six had a really good 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.800 game block and there's just that it's almost like playing 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.000 these rookies. It's you know, with Schoomaker, it's like you're 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.199 playing a rookie because you don't really know if okay, 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.000 there have been some improvements, then there's sometimes where it 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.160 doesn't even look like the same player. And that's that's 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.360 the that's the problem that you know that the fact 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:09.120 that losing Stevens could hurt you to the point where well, damn, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:10.719 Schoonmaker's got to play more, you. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.680 Know, And then now instead of it being like, Okay, 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:13.120 we get this. 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.040 A little more said instead we can Instead we can 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.040 you know, maybe Steven's and then some Schoonmaker. Instead, it's like, no, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.360 we're gonna need Scoonmaker to play and I I'm the 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.240 president of the Schoonmaker fan club, but there I have 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.360 yet to see those games that I watched when he 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:31.319 was playing Michigan State and Ohio State and those types 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.559 of games where you just like, man, this guy was 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.800 a dominant player that way, and he made plays in 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.240 the passing game as well, and it's just been a 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:39.280 little bit of a struggle there. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.760 Yeah, it could be a big opportunity for him. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.440 So it could right, It could right, And that's what 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.120 you would hope is that in his second year, if 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.280 he gets this opportunity and we think he's gonna play, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.360 he would play significant because I do think they're going 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.280 to have to use too tight quite a bit. It 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.040 might be an opportunity for him to step up and 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.480 kind of show a little bit of what maybe he 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.920 didn't have as much opportunity to show last year. Let's 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.080 flip to the other side and talk about the Browns. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.360 There are two names particularly I want to talk about 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.280 their tackles. Jedrick Wills Junior was his left tackle. Jack 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.120 Conklins was the right tackle, both coming off acl injuries 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.040 in twenty twenty three. One of them happened in Week nine, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.360 so it was a little later in the year. The 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.920 other was in Week one. So my question for you guys, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:23.000 are I guess first before we get to them coming 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:26.520 back from injury. Before the injuries, were these the types 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.560 of tackles that would have given you pause when you 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.040 talk about matching up against the defensive ends for the 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.720 Cowboys and then now coming back, what are your expectations 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.360 for them in their first games back from ACL injuries. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.160 Yeah, and looking at Jack Conklin coming off of the 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.720 ACL injury that he's suffered in Week one last year, 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.640 it's gonna be a challenge for him. On the right side. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.640 He's probably gonna have a lot of matchups with DeMarcus Lawrence. 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.680 The thing I'm looking at. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.880 Is this left side. What are they going to do 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:55.560 on the left side? 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.760 Jedderrick Wills comes out in the locker room yesterday and 0:10:57.760 --> 0:10:59.760 says he's not starting the game on Sunday. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.640 So who do they put it left tackle? 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.400 Do they swinge it Jack Conklin over or do they 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.400 bring over a guy in James Hudson who's kind of 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.520 been their swing tackle. He's kind of their version of awesome. 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.600 Richard's a little bit bigger though, and he is a 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:12.360 true swing team. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.280 Just to be clear, left this is going to be 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.400 whoever's going to primarily get to see a lot of 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.360 Mikeah Parks. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.280 Exactly exactly, and this would be who who gets to 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.520 see Michael Parsons. This is why I feel like I 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.280 think this is a three plus SAT game for this 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.360 defensive line. I feel confident in it just because this 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:30.200 offensive line sitting here. Yeah, probably we're sitting here Thursday 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.480 and they're still playing musical chairs with this offensive line. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.120 I mean, you could call back to last year when 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.240 Tyler Smith got hurt. I think it was yesterday, last week, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.480 or last year. Whenever he had that hamstring injury, they 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.800 figured it out by Thursday. Here we are on Thursday. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.560 They haven't figured it out, or if they have figured 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.319 it out, they're keeping it hushed. So I think this 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:47.840 is definitely gonna be something to keep an eye on. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.480 Jedrick Wills might not be ready coming off of that injury. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.600 They might not want to rush him back onto the field, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.120 but he says yesterday that he's not starting at left tackle, 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.240 So it's going to be a guy who probably can't 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.120 match up with Michaeh Parsons to the level of a 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:04.280 healthy Jedrick Wills. So, uh, it's gonna it's gonna be 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.640 an interesting start, I'll say that for sure. 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:07.760 Yeah. They if you go back and you actually watch 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.880 the Houston playoff game, Uh, James Hudson started at right 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.920 tackle is what he did in this game. So, uh, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.840 you know, Nick's right. They they're they're trying to kind 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:18.880 of figure out you know. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.160 Uh uh. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.760 Dwan Jones had also played quite a bit last year. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.720 I mean you start to you start to see him, 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.720 you get into like the you know, the first couple 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.400 of games this season, all of a sudden, they're they're 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:34.440 using backup offensive linemen, you know, and so, uh the 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.680 questions are there. They they you know that the health 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.959 of the tackles was questions coming in. It's even now 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.880 I think of bigger questions because they're going with potentially 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.559 two backup offensive tackles. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.240 We know, it doesn't sound like it Wills is gonna play. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.480 I mean he came out and said, I'm I don't 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.360 think you know, it's just he's just trying to get 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.400 through the practices, is what he's talking about. So if 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.640 that's the case, I still feel like though, like we 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.880 talked about yesterday with posts it and teller of the 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.240 center and the right guard, I just kind of feel 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.600 like that those are two attack points as well. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.040 Mikeh You know, Mike. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.040 Even talked about I know you guys had a chance 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.840 to visit with him yesterday and he was talking about 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.319 that Mike Zimmer playing in more two I, three I 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.560 inside stuff instead of playing that six technique which is 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.559 outside the tackle. So that tells me that Mike's got 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.440 a plan that he's going to try and maybe attack 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.480 a little bit more in the middle with Mike and 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.680 maybe not have the hand in the ground as much 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.240 as he's had in the past, where teams have been 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:33.840 able just to slide to him. When you stand him 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.800 up in the middle, it's hard to chip him, and 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.680 it's hard to it's hard to double him, especially the 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.640 way that way Mike covers those linemen, and he's going 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.680 to make a lot of single blocks there. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:46.160 Over under four and a half alignments. We see Michael 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.719 Parsons in on Sunday. 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:49.800 I'll take the over on take the over on that. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.600 Yeah, I think I will too. I think that he's 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.079 going to be moved around quite a bit. I think 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.320 he's going to be off ball. I think he's going 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.200 to come inside with two three, I type work six 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.800 tech wide nine. You're going to see him everywhere. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:00.720 You know. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.120 I think that when you I think this is the 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.920 this is the part of football that Micah Parsons really likes. Yeah, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.920 Micah Parsons, I don't think wants to play one position. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.280 You know, we always see him like messing around. He's 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.559 like running routes, or he's running with the football like 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.439 he's a running but he's always wanting to do something else. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.360 And I think Zimmer realizes that he has a guy 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.560 that he can move around, and Mike is really good 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.960 at hunting those matchups. You know, all you need is somebody, 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.360 and you know we'll get into you know, we'll get 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.760 into Miles Garrett here when we do this Browns defense, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.240 because he'll line up in a bunch of different spots too. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.120 So if you were to watch Brown's tape and say, man, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.480 this is kind of what I envisioned Michael Parsons being 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.200 like that, that would be the template that I would 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.600 I would think about if. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.880 You look at Micah's personality, I think it all fits 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.520 like he just seems like the kind of person that's 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.040 an eclectic guy that just want a lot of different things. 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.680 It's not interested in sitting there. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.040 Yeah, exactly. And I think that that probably plays itself 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.720 out on the field as well. I think you get 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.640 the most out of him if you keep him engaged 0:14:58.120 --> 0:14:59.960 and keep him excited about it, about doing a lot 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.720 different things with him and allow him to kind of 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.640 move around and do different things. So I think it's 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.600 a great chess piece for Mike Zimmer to use, and 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:07.440 we'll see how he is starting this weekend, you know. 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.720 And two to talk kind of finish up on these tackles. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.320 And if you're if you're one of those guys and 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.920 gals that believe in metrics and all the numbers and 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:19.400 stuff that pressure rates and things like that, Hudson ten 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.840 percent of his dropbacks are pressures, you know, and then 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.840 Jones on the is at eight percent. So they there's 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.040 a couple of guys right there that you know, you 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.400 can see if you're gonna have opportunity. It's not like 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.560 they're gonna shut anybody out. They're gonna give up some 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:34.200 pressures with the when they're playing. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.240 All right, we're gonna take one last thing to point 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.720 out about the brow of Brown's injury report. Three interior 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.520 defensive linemen limited yesterday. Maurice Hurst with a hamstring, Quentin 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.560 Jefferson with an achilles, and Dallan Tomlinson. He starts in 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.440 the middle for them, he was limited with a knee injury. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.800 So those are three guys to keep an eye on. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.920 If one or two of those guys missed, that'd be 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.640 huge for Cooper bb in that running game. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.560 All right, we're gonna take our first break. 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