1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Ron An Indian. Hey, this is great. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 2: This is technology. Look at this. 3 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 3: It's it's going to tell us if we're driving poorly. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: But do we need it? 5 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: This is my ordinary machine, Captain. 6 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 3: It may well possess a rudimentary and. 7 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 4: Tell uSens the car Doctor if I replace it anyway, 8 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 4: But you know, just to waste some money. 9 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 3: Sometimes wasting that money makes you feel good though, because 10 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: at least you know you try. 11 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 5: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the 12 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 5: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car 13 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 5: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 14 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 5: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 5: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 16 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 5: are open. 17 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 3: But I am here to take your calls at eight 18 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 3: five five five six ninety. 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Nine hundred and now he. 20 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 5: Running. 21 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: Hey, welcome ronin Indie and the car Doctor here eight 22 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Here 23 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,319 Speaker 3: to take your calls and answer your questions whatever you've 24 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: got going on fender to fender and. 25 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Door to door. As I always say, I'm here. 26 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: Also, if you want to get more information, you can 27 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 3: get out the cardoctorshow dot com website talks about this 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: radio show and has all our podcasts and other information 29 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: and prevalent things like that going on. You can also 30 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: find links to tune in dot com, iHeart and iTunes 31 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: dot com for podcasting, and if you need me during 32 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: the week, it's Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. I often wonder, 33 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: let me think, how can I start this opening conversation 34 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: that I've got with you here this hour. You know, 35 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 3: one of the things I've noticed that the shop of 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: late is little things grow larger. 37 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: You know. Two weeks ago, two days. 38 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: Ago, the kids we were sitting aund the entertable and 39 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: I said, how was your day it worked at and 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: I started talking about how the unexpected job turned into 41 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: the bigger job and how it just became monumental. 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: Out of nowhere. 43 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: Twenty ten, Lincoln MKX came into the shop at Ari 44 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Atomotive for a passenger side rear view mirror. Older drivery 45 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: kind of had an upsy and miscalculated and knocked it 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: off to the two and of six hundred plus dollars 47 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: for a mirror. Unfortunately for him, it was the second 48 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: time he's done it in the last seven months. So 49 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: it's getting to be a repetitive job. It's like doing 50 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: an oil change. It changes oil and his right side 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: outside passenger rear view mirror for him. But this time 52 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: was a little different. This time, that fairly simple, straightforward 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: mirror repair became four tires because as I was walking 54 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: around the car, walking up to it, getting ready to 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: do the rear view mirror, I noticed a bulge, oh 56 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: the size of oh a good tennis ball in one 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: of the tires. And when I spoke to him about it, yeah, 58 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I kind of remember when I knocked the mirror off. 59 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: When I hit the mirror, I remember a. 60 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: Loud bump and a crack, and I just I wasn't 61 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: too sure what happened. So I think he hit a 62 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: pothole or a curb or something, but he damaged the 63 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: right front tire. Here's how the job got bigger. This 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: is an all wheel drive vehicle. It's got thirty seven 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: thousand miles on it. Now, the problem is that he's 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: got tires that are better than two thirds. 67 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: One do you do one? Do you do four? Do 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: you do two? Well? 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: The car doctor's answer was, if I have a choice, 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: I want to do four. Yeah, you could probably cheat 71 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: and get away and maybe do two, and you're not 72 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: really sure because you can have some issues with all 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: wheel drive and rolling diameter of the tires, and that 74 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: becomes a problem. 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: But you know, as I said to. 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: Him, when you're that close in terms of tread depth, 77 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: when you're that close to the end of the tire's life, 78 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: why do one or two? Why create the problem? Why 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: make it so that every time you rotate those tires 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: you're always chasing one end's got a whole heck of 81 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: a lot more rubber on. 82 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 2: It than the other. 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: Always do four in a situation like that, it just 84 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: makes more sense. Unfortunately for him, between the mirror and 85 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: four to twenty inch tires. For this Lincoln MKX, that 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: six hundred dollars repair bill became a tooth thousand dollars 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: repair bill. And it's staggering in a sense because you 88 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: look at, oh my gosh, look at what this cost, 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: and then you got to think about what the vehicle 90 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: costs to replace. If you went out and bought another 91 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Lincoln MKX, you're in that fifty five to sixty grand mark. 92 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, two grand doesn't look like an 93 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: insurmountable number. And that's really what I want you to 94 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: think about as we kick off this Hour of the 95 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: Car Doctor, is the numbers of order repair. 96 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: We don't talk about it a lot. 97 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: Everybody just says, oh, it's expensive, define expensive. 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: Look at the. 99 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: Cost of the vehicle. Look at what it costs. Somebody 100 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: was telling me the other day they went in to 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: start looking at they want to buy a new Chevy suburban. 102 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: Anybody want to think a guess how much you know 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: a reasonably equipped you know, maybe not every bell and whistle, 104 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: but most of the bells and whistles. Chevy suburban is 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: these days about sixty eight thousand dollars for a suburban, 106 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: and I just went, wow, you know, it makes sense 107 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: to me. I've heard rumors of Cadillac escalades being in 108 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: the eighty thousand dollars rate. So you start looking at 109 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: the price of cars and what they're expecting you to 110 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: pay for them. All of a sudden, two grand for 111 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: tires and a mirror doesn't look all that bad either. 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: That of the dollar is worth a whole lot more 113 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: less than we actually think it is. 114 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: So, but just be mindful of numbers as we kick 115 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: off this Hour of the Car Doctor and start to 116 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: maybe possibly kick it around a little bit and think, well, 117 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: is that really a lot of money in comparison to 118 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: the price of the vehicle. And that's my point this hour, 119 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: because the little job all of a sudden gets. 120 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: To be big. 121 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: But the goal is to keep you safe and that's 122 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: really what it's all about. Eight five five five six 123 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: zero nine nine zero zero is the phone number. That's 124 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: the card Doctor's twenty four to seven line. This radio 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: show is live out on the network Saturday afternoons two 126 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 3: to four pm. 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Coming up a little bit later 134 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 3: on this hour, we're going to be talking to Matt 135 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: Eaton from dnso that Matt is going to be stopping 136 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 3: by to talk to us about their iridium TT spark 137 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: plugs and that's their twin tip plug and what that's 138 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: all about, and the changes that DNSO is bringing to 139 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 3: the spark plug market and the engineering behind it as 140 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: they reinvent the wheel, so to speak. And that's just 141 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: really what they're doing with their iridium TT plug. So 142 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: we look forward to that. But right now, let's kick 143 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: open the garage doors and get the line out the 144 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: door if we can, and start to work our way 145 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: through it. Let's go talk to Dave with some questions 146 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: regarding Oh, I don't know what's around the No. Seven Mustangs, 147 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: so let's see what's going on here, Dave. Welcome to 148 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: the car Doctor, Sir, how can I help? 149 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: Hey? Thanks, thanks checking my call. 150 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 151 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 4: Actually it's not about my Mustang. Actually, it's more of 152 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 4: a maintenance question in general. Okay, I'm one of those 153 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: sixty four year old guys that's been a gearhead car 154 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 4: guy his whole life. You know, built his first go 155 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: cart when he was like twelve, and rebuilt my first 156 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 4: carburetor when I was like fourteen years old. 157 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: Stuff. Congratulations. 158 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: We probably shared some turf somewhere together and are assorted youth. 159 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 6: It's not. 160 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 4: We definitely share a lot of interest. 161 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 7: On that, and I've been the you know, the family 162 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 7: car maintenance repair guy, neighbor repair guide in the neighborhood 163 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 7: kind of person. 164 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: And anyhow, this discussion come up with one of my 165 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: buddies who is sort of the same way another another 166 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 4: car guy, and I'm as far as maintenance in fact, 167 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: you're leading talking about the cost of new cars sort 168 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: of is why the way I am about maintenance because 169 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 4: I try and get every inch out of a car, 170 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: you know, every bit of life I can out of it, 171 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: just because of the cost of replacement. 172 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: So I but when. 173 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: I look at maintenance, and I'm curious on your comments 174 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: on this, I look at things beyond like most people 175 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: think of it as an oil change or an airfielder 176 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: and a hey, that's my car maintenance. But what's your 177 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: thoughts on like, uh, what how this came about? Was 178 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: I had just put new upstream two sensors in my 179 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: two thousand and two Explore. Uh, just passed over about 180 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: seventy five thousand miles And for me, that's you know, 181 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 4: the time when you start doing some of those kinds 182 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: of things. And the guy looked at me like, was 183 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: did you have a check engine light them? 184 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 6: No? 185 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: I didn't. Was there a problem? Now it's you know, 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: two censors are one of those things and at least 187 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 4: in my mind that have a lifespan and I and 188 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: at least in my way of thinking, to my limited 189 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 4: knowledge of them, that they start to function, you know, 190 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 4: maybe a little slower and a little less effectively the 191 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: order to get So when I do maintenance, you know, 192 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 4: to me, that is a normal maintenance. I'll replace O 193 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: two censors. It's seventy five eighty thousand miles. 194 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Or do you also base it on time? 195 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 4: Dave, Yeah, I do base it on time sometimes on 196 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: certain things. Uh, there's lot of things that's like it's 197 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: it's it's hard to say because my most of my 198 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: vehicles that the mileage and time is sort of consistent 199 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: always on them, you know, right. But it's also things 200 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 4: like you know, I take out the mass airflow and 201 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: every every probably fifteen thousand miles, just clean it off, 202 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: you know, make sure it's clean and get all the 203 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 4: any carbon this on and off, put it back in. 204 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: I do a lot of things like that and this one. 205 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on car maintenance other than what 206 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: everybody typically thinks? 207 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what what you're now what you're asking 208 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 3: me is you know what what what's what's the real 209 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: maintenance behind the scenes, what's the stuff beyond fluids and 210 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 3: just normal filters, And it's it's a great question. Unfortunately, 211 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: it's not when I really get to talk about much 212 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: because it's so hard to convince people to do the 213 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: basics first, you know, to do the oil chains, to 214 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: do the air filter, to do the cabin filter. 215 00:09:58,720 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: You know. 216 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: We actually had a scenario last week in the shop 217 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: where a new customer came in. We were doing the 218 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: Royal change and they watched three people come in walk out, 219 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 3: and they were all asking for a fifteen and then 220 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 3: one asked for a thirty and another one asked for 221 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: another thirty k service and the conversation was about cabin 222 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: filters and all the normal maintenance things, and when they 223 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: had gone and left, the new person sitting there, you know, 224 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: started asking about cabin filters. 225 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: They had a sixty five thousand mile Ford. 226 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: Mustang, as a matter of fact, I believe it was 227 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: with a cabin filter that had never been changed. And 228 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 3: the conversation, you know, went through the whole thing about 229 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 3: why and how, but they just looked at me like 230 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: I was trying to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge and 231 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: you know, the connection didn't get made. So it's one 232 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: of the reasons why I've never really been able to 233 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 3: get this far. And I appreciate the question. I'll tell 234 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: you what, Dave, stay put, let me pull over and 235 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: take this pause, and when we come back, let's have 236 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: a real quick conversation about what are the extra maintenance 237 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: things that help really prolong the life of the car 238 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: and avoid problems. 239 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: I love this question. I'm ron an any of the 240 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: car doctor. We'll be back right after this. 241 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: You find that ever, every let me slip it wa 242 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 3: welcome back. What do you mean the car doctor here? 243 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: We've got Dave on the line. Some comments and questions 244 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: about regular automotive maintenance. Dave, are you still there? I'm 245 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: still you know, above and beyond the normal plugs and 246 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: filters and fluids that manufacturers call for. What you're really 247 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: asking for is, yeah, you know, would I change an 248 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: O two centsor at seventy five thousand miles? I also 249 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: look at years, all right, Dave, I look at the 250 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: age of the vehicle. One of the things I've always 251 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: questioned about two censors that I've never gotten a clear 252 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: answer on, is you know, back in the day when 253 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: we used five gas emissions bench, which is more. The 254 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: two sensors always had a lifespan of three to five years. 255 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: And the rationale, the argument I got was because that 256 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: they were always active and they were always producing a voltage. 257 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: They were always working regardless of whether the machine was 258 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: on or not, because oxygen was always around them. And 259 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: over a period of time, they claimed that they would 260 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: fail and start to lose their accuracy and wear out 261 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: per se. And that was the best explanation anybody ever 262 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: gave me. They didn't get down into the nitty gritty 263 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: beyond that. I took that and I applied it to 264 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: automobiles and I said, well, gee, an O two sensors 265 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: and O two censor. If it's if it's sampling oxygen content, 266 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 3: then why isn't that applicable to an automobile as well? 267 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: Never got an answer to that. 268 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 3: When a matter of fact, a lot of engineers looked 269 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: at me kind of funny, thinking, what's wrong with this guy? 270 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: Why is he over complicating this? Which I'm not. I 271 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: think you know, an O two centers and O two 272 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: censor if the vehicle is five years old at seventy 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 3: five thousand miles on it. I'm not going to tell 274 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 3: you not to do it. Maybe it's a tad early. 275 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: If the vehicle eight to ten years old with an 276 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: O two censor in it's seventy five thousand miles, yeah, 277 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 3: I probably start thinking about doing it because otherwise you're 278 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 3: going to find that you'll find out that the O 279 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: two is bad once it degrades to the point that 280 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: a check engine light pops on and now might have 281 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 3: compromised catalytic converter life and created more expensive problems down 282 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: the road. 283 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: Does that make sense for you? 284 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's sort of my logic behind it. I mean, 285 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: you know, the if I mean, you talk about something 286 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 4: expensive on a car, put two cats on a car. 287 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 6: Sure, that's the big money, big money. 288 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: Yet you know, I don't you know the downstream O 289 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 4: two censers. I don't really care because if everything is 290 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: taken care of upstream, they're going to be okay, right right, 291 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: they're just telling you if the cats are functioning. And yeah, 292 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: I mean I'm glad to hear you say that, because 293 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: that's sort of been my philosophy, that you know, the 294 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 4: O two sensor starts to get older, maybe because it's 295 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: it isn't my no way, I understand it. They're constantly 296 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: reading and therefore the computer switching lean to rich, lean 297 00:13:59,440 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 4: to rich back. 298 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: Sure they're always working by the same token. A bottle 299 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 3: of fuel system cleaner in the tank, cleaning mass airflow sensors, 300 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: staying on top of the battery, not just keeping the 301 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: battery terminals clean, but keeping the battery clean, keeping the 302 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: outside case of the battery moisture and dirt free, you know, 303 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: worrying about terminals and connections and applications like plow trucks 304 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: that are always apart and together in moisture environments, keeping 305 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 3: those covered with dielectric reas siliconing windows and window track 306 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: assemblies with a spray silicone so the rubber doesn't dry 307 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: out and the mechanism doesn't start. 308 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: To jam and drag the rubber. 309 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: All those things will help promote the life of the vehicle. 310 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: And it's all those little touches that, yeah, you know 311 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: what it's like to day. Susie turned around to me 312 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: and said, if I don't get a new car this 313 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: year after we were married twenty eight years, she goes, 314 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go nuts. 315 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: So we had to buy her a new car. 316 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: She married the wrong guy, because I could keep the 317 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: car going forever. And I think we've kind of talked 318 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: about that here on air. It so it's just part 319 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: of the process, Dave. I hope that enters it for you. 320 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: I've got to move on to the next call. By 321 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 3: all means, stay in touch and if you got anything 322 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: else I can do for you, drop me a line. 323 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. Let's go over and talk 324 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: to Maureen from New York with some questions about a 325 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: two thousand and three Pontiac granddam Maureen, you're on with 326 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: the car doctor. 327 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: How can I help? 328 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 8: Yes, Hi, Ron, thank you very much for taking my call. 329 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: You're welcome. 330 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 8: Oh, thank you. I bought this car used about two 331 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 8: years ago, and I had been getting its service for 332 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 8: minus things, you know, just just minu things like the brake, 333 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 8: shoes and things like that. But I had brought it 334 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 8: to the my mechanic and he is an autobody specialist. 335 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 8: He mainly does autobody work, so I thought I would 336 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 8: bring that up to you. He does also do repair. 337 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 8: And because there was a leak under the car, and 338 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 8: but it was clear leak and I found that it 339 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 8: was from the air condition so that's you know. I 340 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 8: was happy to hear that. When I brought it to him, 341 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 8: he lifted the hood and he said it was low 342 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 8: on coolant. Now I don't know. I've had the call 343 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 8: for two years, so I don't know when it was last. 344 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 8: I just never got any warning signal. 345 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 6: I need. 346 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I need a question. 347 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: Mari in the clock's going to tell you, Oh, okay. 348 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 8: The question is, uh, what does just because it's low 349 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 8: on coolant? Does that mean that I have to get 350 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 8: a big job like a guess? 351 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 6: It's I mean, no, not at all. 352 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: What it what it? 353 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: What it means is that somebody hasn't been checking and 354 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: staying on top. 355 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: Of the coolant level. So here's the deal. All right, 356 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: here's what you want to know. Here's the takeaway. 357 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 3: You want to have a mad coolant, put a mark 358 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: on the bottle once he bleeds the system out and say, okay, 359 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: it's it's midway typically between the high and the low mark, 360 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: and two weeks or a month from now out, when 361 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: the engine is cool or you bring it to him 362 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: for service and he lifts the hood and he looks 363 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: is the coolant somewhere in that range? If you find 364 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: over the short term or the long term, you're continually 365 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: adding coolant, then yes, obviously it's going somewhere. But on 366 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: an older vehicle that you're not sure of cooling system history. 367 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 3: And here's the case in the argument for making sure 368 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: you do coolant service and keeping track of what. 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: You do, then perhaps. 370 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: There's additional service, additional repair needed here. So step one, 371 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: bring the bottle up the level, make sure it's where 372 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: it's supposed to be, using the correct coolant. In this 373 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: case it's going to be GM Dex cool In all 374 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: probability it'll be an orange colored coolant. Bring the coolant 375 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: bottle up the level, make a mark, drive it, and 376 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: in two weeks maybe he can even show you where 377 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 3: the coolant bottle is. Someone can help you lift the 378 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: hood and look under there when the engine is cold, 379 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: before you start out in the morning. Where's the level. 380 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: Is the level where it's supposed to be. If not, 381 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: then we've got to start to look for a cooling 382 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: system leak. That's a conversation for another day. By the way, 383 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: one particular point, this is an three Pontiac. It's an 384 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: older vehicle. It's well, it's twelve thirteen years old. Now 385 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 3: that coolant bottle may be so contaminated it may be 386 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: hard to see the coolant level, and perhaps you want 387 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 3: to consider replacing it to help. But number one read 388 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: the level correctly. In number two, help keep from further 389 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: contaminating the cooling system if it is indeed. 390 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: Dirty on the inside. 391 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: That is part and parcel part of what could be 392 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: a future problem. Marie and I enjoyed the conversation. Hey, 393 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: coming up next, Matt Eaton. 394 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: From Denso we're gonna talk a little bit about a 395 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: ridiom t T a ridium twin tip. 396 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: Say that seven times fast, a. 397 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Riadi in twint spark plugs. I'm run an any of. 398 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: The guard doctor Beck right after this, don't go in. 399 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Hey, listeners, welcome back, Rore. I'm eating the car doctor here. 400 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 3: You know, probably one of the most ignored parts of 401 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: the vehicle in the last oh I would say, five 402 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: to ten years. It's quite a span, is the spark plug, 403 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: the poor, lowly spark plug that nobody seems to pay 404 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: attention to anymore. And it's becoming an issue. It's becoming 405 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: an issue for a lot of reasons. And we thought 406 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: to help get some of the answers to that, we 407 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: would reach out to one of the best gentlemen by 408 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 3: the name of Matt Eaton. Matt is with Denso and 409 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: he is here today to talk to us about spark 410 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 3: plugs and the technology behind it and how it's changing. 411 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: Matt. 412 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, thank you glad to 413 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: be here. 414 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Spark plugs have really changed since their inception. 415 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 6: Matt. 416 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 3: And you know, it used to be a spark plug 417 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: when I broke into the business every ten thousand miles, 418 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: and now it's it can go a lot longer. 419 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: What are some of the changes that have occurred? Is 420 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: it engine? 421 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Is it does de signe of the plug? 422 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 3: Is an ignition system? What's created this this change in 423 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 3: the way they're they're replaced? 424 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: You know, really it's the material being used. Back in 425 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 6: the day, it used to be a copper or nickel 426 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 6: material on the center electrode, and then it became platinum 427 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 6: in the eighties and nineties, and nowadays everybody is using 428 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 6: a ridium. 429 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Now is that? 430 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: Can you take an iridium plug and for somebody out 431 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: there that has an older vehicle, can they can they 432 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: use an iridium plug in a thirty year old engine 433 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 3: without any consequences. They're just going to get the benefit 434 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: of longer life. 435 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 6: Absolutely, they get the benefit of longer life and in 436 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 6: most cases improved combustion as well. 437 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: Is there an issue with you know, if that iridium 438 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: plug and the myth has always been that an iridium 439 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 3: plug with a precious metal on the tip, you're not 440 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: going to change the gap? 441 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: First of all, first part of my question is is 442 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: that correct? 443 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 3: And the second is, so if you have an older 444 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: vehicle that you wanted to run in an iridium style 445 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 3: plug in it, do you have to change the gap? 446 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: What are the issues there? 447 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 6: Well, you have to be very careful. Ridium is a 448 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 6: very brittle element. It's actually the densest element and most 449 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 6: crosive resistant, but it is very brittle and fragile, especially 450 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 6: in the cases where the diameter has been reduced significantly, 451 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 6: and when you have a very small brittle material. If 452 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 6: you're trying to recap the plug and you accidentally come 453 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: into contact with that center electrode, that could crack or chip, 454 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 6: and of course that would destroy the value of the 455 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 6: spark plug and cause misfiring. That sort of thing. You 456 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 6: have to be very careful if you're going to mess 457 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 6: with the gap and. 458 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: That creates an issue. 459 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: So suffice it to say, if you've got an engine 460 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: that doesn't have a ridium, but those plugs are just 461 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: really tough to replace. Safe to say, one of the 462 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: bigger advantages here is that with an iridium plug you 463 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: only have to go through the pain. Well just to say, 464 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: you don't have to go through the pain as often 465 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: to replace those spark plugs, and that's a big advantage. 466 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 6: Yes, you certainly are going to save and preventive maintenance time. 467 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 6: Iridium nowadays is lasting in excess of one hundred thousand 468 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 6: miles and compared to the copper nickel plugs of between 469 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 6: ten and thirty thousand. Of course, that is very significant 470 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 6: and for most owners that's the life of their ownership 471 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 6: of that vehicle. 472 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: So safe to say, typical lifespan of a spark plug 473 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: is predicated on what kind of material. 474 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 2: It's made out of. 475 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely so not every spark plug is one hundred thousand 476 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: mile plug. It's got to be a ridium or an 477 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: equivalent if there is one, in. 478 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: Order to hit that mark. 479 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 6: Yes, not only does it have to be a ridium 480 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 6: usually in the center electrode, but also some other durable 481 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 6: material on the ground electrode. Usually on the surface of 482 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 6: the ground election road, either a platinum chip is placed 483 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 6: there or a little pad. And in the case of 484 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 6: our latest product or Iridium TT, it's sort of a 485 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 6: protrusion like a needle like protrusion. It's a what we're 486 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 6: calling our twin tip design. 487 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: Right now, the Iridium TT plugs that you've got out. 488 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: Is that a performance plug or is that something for 489 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: Mom's Malibu? 490 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: Is that for everybody's car? 491 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Is that just for the performance mind it's set. 492 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 6: No, as a matter of fact, it's it's not geared 493 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 6: toward the performance enthusiasts. However, we'll find those applications where 494 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 6: we have a compatible heat range. But it was designed 495 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 6: for the daily driver and what it does is extend 496 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 6: the life of their their spark plug and and of 497 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 6: course saves them money in the long run and and 498 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 6: hassle as well. But it's much more than just the 499 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 6: durability of the spark plug. It's the tt UH. This 500 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 6: concept of the needle for needle or twin chip design 501 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,239 Speaker 6: that we have here is what's really going to give 502 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: the benefit of a higher performance and that performance, or 503 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 6: ignition performance translates into better fuel economy. And also better 504 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: or lower emissions. 505 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 3: So in a sense, you guys at denso if I 506 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: can say it that way, have really created the better mousetrap. 507 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: You've taken something as simple or complicated depending on your 508 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: perspective as a spark plug, and you've made it better. 509 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 6: Absolutely, there's no question. We're very confident that we feel 510 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 6: we've we've created the best possible spark plug available now. 511 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: In the old days, when when when God was young 512 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: and the car doctor just started out repairing cars, I 513 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 3: was always taught that dab of anti ces. 514 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: On the threat of a spark plug when you're replacing them. 515 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: Does that still hold true? 516 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 6: Not anymore. The reason is because now that the plugs 517 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 6: are existing so long in the head one hundred thousand miles, 518 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 6: that's a long time and a lot of heat over 519 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 6: that period of time, and over that period of time 520 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 6: that antecs is going to change and the characteristics are 521 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 6: actually going to cause the opposite effect, which is is 522 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 6: make it seas it's. 523 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: Going to bind in the head, and then we still can't. 524 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: Get the plug out exactly. 525 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 3: Any issues with well, I'm trying to think I had 526 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: to ask this question. 527 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: So when I use an a ridium TT. 528 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: Safe to say on a modern engine with you know, 529 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: no driveability issues and good. 530 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: Maintenance, I'm good for one hundred thousand miles. 531 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 3: Right Absolutely, What happens when I take that to one 532 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty or one hundred and forty thousand, because 533 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: maybe I'm not maintenance minded and maybe I'm I'm trying 534 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: to squeeze the nickel for lack of a better way 535 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: to put it, Do I run the risk of hurting anything? 536 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 6: No. In the case of a ridium TT, we always 537 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 6: say over one hundred thousand miles, but really we're very 538 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 6: confident that in almost every application it's going to exceed 539 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 6: one hundred and ten thousand, and there's also usually a 540 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 6: twenty percent error on that, So we're very confident that 541 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 6: it's going to perform well above the one hundred thousand mile. 542 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Mark right now on an older plug or a non 543 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 3: iridium plug. If I went beyond the limit, I could 544 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: possibly have issues with ignition coils and putting a load 545 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: on the ignition coil and creating an issue as the 546 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 3: gap got bigger. 547 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: Correct. 548 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely. As I mentioned before, the basic issue with 549 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 6: the iridium when it doesn't have the platinum portion on 550 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 6: the ground electrode. It's going to significantly reduce the longevity 551 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 6: of the spark plug and then of course it's going 552 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 6: to draw more loads the coil and have other issues. 553 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be a problem. 554 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Matt, stay put. 555 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: I've got a couple of more things I want to 556 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: go over with you, and I don't want to rush this. 557 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 3: This is too good of an interview. I'm Ronning Ay 558 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: and the car doctor. Matt Eaton and I will both 559 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: be back. We're talking spark plugs from the folks at 560 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: Denso Stay tuned nothing and can tune nothing and time. 561 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back Ronn Aeny and the cardocker. 562 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm here today with Matt Eaton. 563 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: Matt is the. 564 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 3: Manager for maintenance parts from the nice folks over at 565 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 3: DNSO then So parts, and it's not just spark plugs 566 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: over there, but we're talking spark plugs today and Matt, 567 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: when we left, we were talking about everything regarding spark 568 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: plugs and iridium and some of the things that make 569 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: a spark plug fail as well as some of the 570 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 3: things that make a spark plug last longer aridium t 571 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: T and I don't think we gave that enough credit 572 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 3: enough due the technology behind that. Can you talk a 573 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: little bit about the iridium TT spark clouds? 574 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 6: Sure? Maybe we should start by saying there's there's your 575 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 6: basic iridium plug and that's just an iridium tip on 576 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 6: the center electrode. And then there's the the OE type 577 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 6: or original equipment type iridium plug, and that has a 578 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 6: ridium on the center electrode and usually a pad of 579 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 6: platinum on the ground electrode. And that's that's how you 580 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 6: achieve one hundred thousand mile mark, you know, the use 581 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 6: of those precious metals. In the case of iridium TT, 582 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 6: there's a big difference, and that is the ground electrode 583 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 6: instead of putting a platinum pad there, and we're putting 584 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 6: in sort of a needle like protrusion. We're calling it 585 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 6: the twin tip design. So this platinum needle sticks down 586 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 6: from the ground electrode and directly faces the iridium electrode 587 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 6: on the other side. And what that does is it 588 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 6: allows us to open up that area much like a 589 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 6: larger gap would in the older style plugs, and that 590 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 6: open area allows for that flame to propagate. Better think 591 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 6: of it as opening that area up and reducing the 592 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: interference of the large metal electrode and therefore improving the 593 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: overall flame kernel growth, and that of course results in 594 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 6: better ignition and a better burn. 595 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: And in layman's terms, what you're really describing for those 596 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: out there that might have a hard time envisioning this, 597 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: when the spark occurs and it lights the mixture creates 598 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: a fireball in the cylinder, what you're describing, and correct 599 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: me if I'm not saying this correctly, But what you're 600 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: describing is you've achieved a more efficient and complete way 601 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: to light the fireball along a wider front for better 602 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: use of the fuel and more complete combustion. 603 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: Fair way to say. 604 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 6: It, That's exactly it. It's the absorption of that spark 605 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 6: energy into the ground electrode and any other metal around it, 606 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: which reduces the efficiency of that fireball, as you're saying, 607 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 6: that growing fireball, And of course it's that that growth 608 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 6: which gives us the better burn, which results in better performance, 609 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 6: better fuel economy, lower emissions. It's all related, and this. 610 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: Is something specific to iridium TETs. 611 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 6: That's correct. 612 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: So fair statement. 613 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: Not all iridium spark plugs are created equal, No, definitely not. 614 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: For gotcha, hey, Matt, you know as we wind things down, 615 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: what sort of indicators you know, maybe somebody doesn't want 616 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 3: to follow mileage as a replacement. Is there anything that 617 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: they might see as far as maybe it's time to 618 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: replace plugs either a little earlier a little later. What 619 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: are some of the things the consumer can look for 620 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 3: other than just looking at the odometer to decide when 621 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: to change plugs? 622 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 6: Sure, thanks to look for would be difficulty in starting 623 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 6: the engine, rough idol or misfires, sluggish acceleration, and lots 624 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 6: of power while going up a hill. And probably the 625 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 6: most important thing these days is a reduction in fuel economy. 626 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 6: People are very concerned about that. 627 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, fuel economy, you know, being so forefront on everybody's mind. 628 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: It is a big issue. Matt. 629 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 3: I appreciate you taking the time today. Where can the 630 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: listeners go get more information? 631 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 6: Denzott dot com is the direct site for that product, 632 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: and our corporate site is Benzo Aftermarket dot com. 633 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: Right, and I imagine there's some YouTube videos out there 634 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: that talk about this particular product as well as is 635 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: there a. 636 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: Facebook page for you? 637 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes there is, Perfect Matt Eaton then, so we 638 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: appreciate it. 639 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: Listen. 640 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: I use you guys in the shop all the time. 641 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: Great stuff. 642 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: Can't say enough about it. 643 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: And matter of fact, the salesman was in not two 644 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: weeks ago and he started his spiel and I said, listen, 645 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 3: I held my hand up and I said, save your breath. 646 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: I already use you. I know who you are. Good stuff. 647 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 2: No complaints here, and it kind of made him giggle 648 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: and it made his day. We had a real nice conversation. 649 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: So you guys keep up the good work. 650 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: The guys out here like me, we just really appreciate 651 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: all your efforts and trying to make a better mouse trap. 652 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: Oh you you're very welcome. Matt. 653 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: You take care, you take good care, and you have 654 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: a good day. 655 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the Card Doctor. We are back 656 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: right after this. 657 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back ranting any in the Card Doctor. 658 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: Once again, I want to say thanks to Mark Eaton 659 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 3: over at Denso and all the products that he is 660 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 3: helping to bring to the marketplace with all the folks 661 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: over there at dens So again. If you want more 662 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: information about them, and they're IRIDIUMTT spark plugs, it's Dentsott 663 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: dot com. And again we appreciate him taking the time 664 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 3: this weekend as we close out this hour, just a 665 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: couple of notes and a quick story, and I think 666 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: I have to bring Tom on here here. We want 667 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: to tell everybody about the science project we had this week. Tom. 668 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, you know we've had a I've got a 669 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 9: twenty ten foard escape that has one hundred and eighty 670 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 9: thousand miles on it. 671 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 3: And I keep kidding Tom, because I say, you know 672 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: you're gonna drive the wheels off of this thing. And 673 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 3: you know we've been taking care of it in the shop, 674 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: and we'll change the oil and let him go five 675 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: thousand miles on synthetic and he'll be back in in 676 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: the blink of an eye. 677 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes it seems like it's the next week, but exactly 678 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: it's not that bad. 679 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: But we've been talking about replacing the alternator air conditioning belt. 680 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: Yes, why don't you pick it up from there? 681 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 9: Well, the other morning I dropped my daughter off at 682 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 9: dead work. She works at a veterinarians clinic she's interning. 683 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 9: And I pulled out of the parking lot one about 684 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 9: a quarter mile and suddenly, and I was really surprised, 685 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 9: the car reacted this way. The transmission violently shifted down 686 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 9: to low gear, the engine revved up to five thousand 687 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 9: rpm and then all of a sudden, it just everything stopped. 688 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 9: It came to a screeching halt. The powertrain didn't disengage, 689 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 9: and I stopped with squealing tires right in the middle 690 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 9: of the street. Luckily it was only I was only 691 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 9: doing about twenty five miles an hour and there was 692 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 9: no traffic. I was able to restart. The car, got 693 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 9: a check engine light, which I expected, got a battery 694 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 9: light almost immediately, and I said. 695 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I think I know that. Yeah, yeah, I 696 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: think I know what that was. 697 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 9: And then I found a nice place to pull in 698 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 9: and sure enough the that that serpentine belt on that 699 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 9: side of the engine had snapped. And I'm sitting there 700 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 9: also looking at bear wires, going oh boy, yeah. 701 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: And you know, the science experiment part of this is 702 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 3: that you know, the life cycle of those are it's 703 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 3: five years, one hundred, one hundred and twenty thousand miles. 704 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: Now we've been hearing that belt make noise for a 705 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 3: while and Tom and I kind of looked at each 706 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: other and we went, eh, how far. 707 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: Would it really go? 708 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 3: We found out we found out we actually should have 709 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: changed it, and it's it's not something we recommend you 710 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 3: do the listeners out there, and we don't, you know, 711 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: say hey, let's just drive the car until the wheels 712 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: fall off. It was sort of an inside joke that 713 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: had kind of bid us in the backside. And the 714 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: point of this story is that, yeah, you know what, 715 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 3: bad things happen to good people, even with the best 716 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: of intentions. So you know, if you haven't replaced belts, 717 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 3: if you haven't replaced hoses, and your vehicle is up 718 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: there in mileage, you know, Tom's at one hundred and 719 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 3: eighty thousand plus miles now, and that. 720 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: Car is still got some life left inner. 721 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: He's on the road a lot as he's driving around 722 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: doing his radio show stuff during the week before he 723 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 3: gets to do this radio show stuff here on the weekend. 724 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 3: And you know, belts do go bad, they do break, 725 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: They're not infallible. And if you're driving with original belts 726 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: and hoses five years old, one hundred and fifty thousand miles, 727 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty thousand miles, and it's time to 728 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: really start thinking about replacing it. Otherwise not a fun experience, 729 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: right Tom, Oh. 730 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 731 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 9: And as a matter of fact, I wrote a note 732 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 9: to Ford because I think we found a software bug. 733 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's it's yeah, it's it's something that's got 734 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,919 Speaker 3: to be recommended. Hey, I can see by the hands 735 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: of the Great Vogue it's time to go. I'm Ronning 736 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: Andy and the car Doctor, reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, 737 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 3: they're priceless. 738 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 6: See you