1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: In China and Saudi Arabia have signed a number of agreements, 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: including on energy and investments, joining us to take a 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: deeper dive here as a Bloomberg Global Business reporter, Bruce Einhorn, 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Bruce for your time. This has a 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: number of dimensions, leading from financial like an oil deal, 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: to implications of UH Saudi SIGNO U S relationships. Let's 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: start with energy. What do we know about what they did? 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: So there are a bunch of deals that they signed, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: and to be clear, these are largely memorandums of understanding. 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: These aren't final agreements, so you know, we should look 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: at these with a bit of caution. UH. That said, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: they did sign deals related to hydrogen energy, solar power, 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: UM hydrogen. For instance, they they signed an m OU 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: to set up a hydrogen cracking project. UM hydrogen of 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: course has potential to be UH real green fuel going forward, 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: and UM relates to you Saudi Arabia's efforts to transition 17 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: away from its UH really strong reliance on on fossil fuels. Okay, 18 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: now there's a real interesting geopolitical angle to all of this. 19 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Every everything is UH these days, BRUSA, but really the 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: dynamic turning of the of Saudia's turning a cold shoulder 21 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: of the US on controlling oil prices and production and 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: then meeting with President she and rolling out the red car. 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: But if you will, can we take anything away from that? Well, 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: there are clearly is UH in attempt by both Beijing 25 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: and Riad to um intensively to developed ties. China is 26 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the largest trading partner now for Saudi Arabia. The US 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: used to be, but the US hasn't relied so much 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: on Saudi Arabia for oil of course for for many 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: years now thanks to UM fracking in the United States, China, 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: UM and so UM. In addition to the economic relationship, 31 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: both China and Saudi Arabia of course not democratic governments, 32 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: so authoritarian leaders who can see some common interests. So 33 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: it does make sense that this is a relationship that 34 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: both sides want to pursue. Yeah, Shaudi Arabia has to 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: walk an interesting balance too, because it still needs a 36 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: US for for arms production. But also coming out of 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: this it looks as if a China is willing to 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: supply some of that as well. UM yes um uh. 39 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: China has already been a major supplier of military drones 40 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia UM and to other countries in the region. 41 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: UH so uh they could be trying to build on that. UM. 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: Of course, UH, China's capability as of exporting uh weapons, 43 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: military equipment nothing like the United States. So UM. As 44 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: much as Saudi Arabia would like to perhaps put distance 45 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: between itself and the US U, UM, it still is 46 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: going to need Washington if it does want to be 47 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: able to get all arms at once. Yeah, and the 48 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: two also agreeing Bruce to a strengthen collaboration at the 49 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: u N, the G twenty, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. Now 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: you pointed out at the top a lot of this stuff. 51 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: You know, they can posture and do what they want, 52 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: but there are a lot of dynamics at play here. Yes, yeah, UM, 53 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: but I think you know, we we do need to um. 54 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Keep in mind that a lot of these deals are 55 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: things that are just um uh tentative deals. They're not 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: full fledged deals. But clearly they are sending a message 57 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: from both sides that they do want to develop this 58 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: relationship further. Yeah, all right, Bruce, Hey, thank you so 59 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: much for your time. Really appreciate it very much. Bruce 60 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: iron Horn, Bloomberg Global business reporter,