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Speaker 1: Karen or Hot. Hey.

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Speaker 1: Get into the randomness of life.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, it's a lot of

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Speaker 2: take this musical interlude so I know where to put

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Speaker 2: the commercials, and then we're gonna come right back and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna I'm gonna talk about all the controversial topics.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Look bumble knows you're exhausted by dating alda, must not

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Speaker 3: take yourself too seriously and six one since that matters

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Speaker 3: and what do I even say other than hey, Well,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about it, Karen.

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Speaker 2: The Internet has been going off, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: it happened right after we stopped doing shows last week.

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Speaker 1: We never had time to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about to say what's happened?

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Speaker 1: Can keep on?

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend became black Twitter's number one enemy at the

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Speaker 2: publicly shaming.

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Speaker 1: Of sexy outfit. You heard about this story, Karen, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Really know what happened. All I know was like they've

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Speaker 4: been on his ass. I was like that Nigga said

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Speaker 4: about her.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of moving parts and it's been messy,

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Speaker 2: and I've been watching all the takes on social media

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Speaker 2: and they're almost all bad, but mostly because it's your

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Speaker 2: cap at one hundred and forty characters. Well, we have

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Speaker 2: a podcast, and we can talk about this shit as

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Speaker 2: long as we want to, as long as we want to,

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Speaker 2: from as many angles as we want to, and nobody

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Speaker 2: can stop us.

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Speaker 1: And nobody can do a damn thing about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, did you know Keith Palmer had

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Speaker 2: a boyfriend?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that. Now, not that funny.

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Speaker 1: What do you like?

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Speaker 4: And who he was? Didn't give fuck. She had a boyfriend, yea,

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Speaker 4: because she had a baby. Yeah, she had a baby.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if she was married, had a husband boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: I had never heard this, nigga, I never heard of them.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think she was married.

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Speaker 4: So I figured out it was probably her boyfriend, probably

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Speaker 4: had a baby together, because I.

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Speaker 1: Have seen she was on.

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Speaker 4: Uh the Terrell showed the YouTube dude, and uh, she

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Speaker 4: was on there. She was talking about him. But I

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Speaker 4: still didn't know who he was. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: that's her boyfriend and she they had a baby.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea who.

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Speaker 2: The Terrell person is on YouTube, if that's even the

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Speaker 2: real name, because Karen just doesn't know those things.

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Speaker 1: But so I didn't know. I figured she might have had.

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Speaker 2: A boyfriend because she had the baby, and and she

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Speaker 2: so I was like, she must be attached to a

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Speaker 2: If she's black, she's gonna catch hell for being a

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: It's this guy's name Darius Jackson, and he has a

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Speaker 1: So that's his brother.

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Speaker 5: on Twitter like the rest of us in these washed times,

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Speaker 5: and there was a video going viral on Twitter. It

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Speaker 5: was usher, who's has a who has a residency in Vegas?

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Speaker 4: Yes, And the thing is, I've been hearing about it,

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Speaker 4: and me and your mama's talking about and everybody who

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Speaker 4: They was like, it is such a ball to go.

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Speaker 4: I hope he continues to see him, because I would

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I was, this is a total tangent. Maybe let me

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Speaker 1: Guy's a little high.

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Speaker 2: Let me write this down so I remember to get

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Speaker 2: back to it. But Okay, yeah, Usher and old.

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Speaker 1: R and b Okay coming back to that, Okay, But

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Speaker 1: so he was Usher as his residency in Vegas, it

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Speaker 1: seems to me they like famous and rich black people

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Speaker 1: or people Usher fans come there and there's a section

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a if you're a

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Speaker 1: Like I can afford to sit here, and I love you,

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Speaker 1: But whatever he does, whatever happens.

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Speaker 2: If he spots one of these like famous women in

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Speaker 2: And he's done this before with other famous black women.

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Speaker 1: It's gone viral before. But he and like you.

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Speaker 2: Said, Sweedi and but but Keiki goes up there and

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Speaker 2: she is dancing and being serenaded and she's wearing kind

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Speaker 4: And yeah, she got that body. She had that baby.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully YouTube won't take us all the way down just

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Speaker 2: a quote unquote evolution Keikey Palmer, Kekey Palmer, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she actually has done this show like before, so

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Speaker 2: And I think for the most part, we've been seeing

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Speaker 1: We've been seeing her as little key Key you know,

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Speaker 1: That's America's niece, you know, which I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times when you talking about people that were stars

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Speaker 1: to be seen as a sexual or symbol and all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. But anyway, so as you can see from

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Speaker 1: this this dance, he's just singing. He's got his arm

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Speaker 2: Everyone's having fun, her girls are having fun. Yeah, this

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Speaker 2: he looks like at her, like she turns and lets

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Speaker 2: him look at her button.

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Speaker 1: He looks at it and keeps singing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably do this to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it and like I can't like I don't

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Speaker 1: You know, like just organic moments.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and they look like they're having a ball, They

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Speaker 2: Also, like Kei Key is a black woman of a

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Speaker 1: It's in front of everybody, you know, and so it

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Speaker 2: But then her boyfriend, uh mister Jackson, he put on

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Speaker 1: Mom, And that did not go over well with people.

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Speaker 4: That got to do with anything, and.

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Speaker 2: At first it didn't go overwhel with people just because

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Speaker 1: But then it really didn't.

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Speaker 2: Go overwell once people realize that's the father of her

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Speaker 2: Then he replied, we live in a generation where a

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Speaker 2: of his kids to showcase booty cheeks to please others,

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Speaker 2: and he gets told how much of a hater he is.

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Speaker 2: This is my family and my representation. I have standards

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Speaker 2: and morals to what I believe. I've rested my case.

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Speaker 1: And that didn't really help to end it.

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Speaker 2: He rested his case, but the case did not rest

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Speaker 2: with him. Okay, they've been on his case since then.

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Speaker 2: He actually deleted his Twitter and came back, which because

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Speaker 2: at first I thought maybe he was trolling.

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Speaker 1: But when he deleted his Twitter.

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Speaker 2: And came back, I said, oh, no, he meant that

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Speaker 2: because you only delete that Twitter account when you and

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Speaker 2: your feelings and some of the shit people have been saying.

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Speaker 1: It's connecting with you.

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Speaker 2: But you know, to take it full circle or just

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Speaker 1: He's like a fitness instructor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, he's not famous. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: him and Keiki have been dating for a while, and

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Speaker 2: And I think even the energy from people watching that

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Speaker 2: They can't serenade you calling you bitch right you know

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Speaker 1: All that type of shit. So this is a foreign

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Speaker 2: he don't. They don't got the cultural they don't have

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Speaker 2: Right, Like, like, Usher's not gonna fuck your girl tonight.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's that. But I think that's a that's

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Speaker 4: It's nothing more to it, like they're not gonna meet

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Speaker 2: Right, So I think that's a that's a big part

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Speaker 1: Like look at your girl, that's your girl. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Triggered him into like saying some stupid shit like you

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Speaker 2: And then you add the embarrassment the youth obviously, the

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Speaker 2: And you have him say something like that, and I

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Speaker 2: Aren't saying it's ridiculous that he would have any level

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Speaker 1: No, The reason I.

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Speaker 2: you should have texted her, you should have called her,

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Speaker 1: Is that messaging is what is what.

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Speaker 2: and I'm not saying you have to say it that way,

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Speaker 2: what we was doing six months ago. It just kind

443
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: of feels like you're changing and blah blah, and like

444
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: you got to have a real conversation where you have

445
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: to be vulnerable and you have to look like less

446
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 2: than a quote unquote man man, and you have to

447
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: talk to her and be understood and all this shit,

448
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: or you can pull this shit, which is a public

449
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 2: display that you know. It's not gonna work. It's just

450
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: gonna make her defensive. You defensive. Everyone's in your business now,

451
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: But at least you look like you are the one

452
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: in charge and telling her what they're doing.

453
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna get played like this.

454
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 2: And I think that's what I see missing in the

455
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: conversation is like people can identify with his insecurity. I

456
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: think even people that disagree with what he did can

457
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: identify with the insecurity, Like, yeah, I can see how

458
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 2: that could be a need to be a conversation. It's

459
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: not a lot of women have negotiated that conversation. A

460
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: lot of men, I'm sure, have negotiate if you're in

461
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: a relationship that comes with certain preferences, constraints and.

462
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. Style. People are different.

463
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: Everyone's not gonna be one hundred percent free to be

464
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: themselves because that's what the commitment to another person is.

465
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to think about someone other than yourself,

466
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 2: that's the whole point of it.

467
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: So people can relate to that.

468
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: It could be an introvert versus the extra versus dating

469
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: the extrovert and the introvert and the extrovert have to

470
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: have a conversation about like public events and how long

471
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: are we gonna stay out and how much tension are

472
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: we gonna draw it and stuff like that. People make

473
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: those compromises all the fucking time. But you don't put

474
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: it on Twitter.

475
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: You don't.

476
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: You don't see a picture of your girl talking and

477
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: you quote tweet it and be like, she ain't gonna

478
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: keep talking to people at this party. Us I'm a

479
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: fucking like. You don't say that, right, because then the

480
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: point is not to resolve the conflict. The point is

481
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: to let the world know you have a conflict, but

482
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: you do not like, like, you don't like what's happening,

483
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: and you need the world to see that. And that's

484
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: why people say he she it felt like he was

485
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: trying to embarrass her, right, not the other way, not

486
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: the other way around, Like she wore this outfit to embarrass,

487
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: you know, she wore an outfit to have fun with

488
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: the girls, and and and like, you know, like it

489
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: was gonna be like a cute, fun moment. She wasn't thinking,

490
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to fucking destroy my family to night.

491
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: She wasn't thinking he was gonna freak the fuck out

492
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: on on on social media tonight. So he but he

493
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: when he sent that tweet, he knew it would embarrass her.

494
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: There's no fucking way he.

495
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: Did right, and and and and that goes to the

496
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: point where men do this. Shit is fucking embarrassing. And

497
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 4: you want to fucking control somebody, you're trying to got

498
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,959
Speaker 4: them control her And a lot of women, I'm not

499
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: and I don't know about Kiki, A lot of women

500
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 4: do not respond well to being fucking rained in, particularly publicly,

501
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: because just like you got your boys, she got her girls.

502
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: Now going, girl, you're dealing with that boy shit. I

503
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: wouldn't deal with that from a man. So now you've

504
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 4: kicked off a whole other set of fucking problems when

505
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: you could have just talked to her individually and kept

506
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 4: it in house, right.

507
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: And I think.

508
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 2: The stuff the things that get lost in this is

509
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: just people don't want to look at the context as

510
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: a whole.

511
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: They don't want to see the messaging.

512
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: And I'm not talking conspiratorial messaging, just this is, this

513
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: is and then that outcomes raisers mean we're going to

514
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: be And so yeah, him putting it out that was

515
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: to embarrass her.

516
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: It's just not there's no way to.

517
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Be reasonable and think the world wouldn't have felt like

518
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: you were trying to embarrass her. And then I think,

519
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: you know, some of her responses are kind of like

520
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 2: petty and childish in that it's like fun stuff that

521
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 2: she's doing on the internet. They're not like serious responses

522
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: to a conversation or whatever.

523
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: But that's her prerogative. This is what happens when you

524
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: try to embarrass somebody.

525
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: Now it's just a big ass public conversation where they're

526
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: saying public shit back to try to like either squash it.

527
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: Or make it funny or move on to the next thing.

528
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: Or make it lighthearted, you know, like selling merchant stuff

529
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: to a certain extent is gonna make people feel like,

530
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: oh well, if they if they stay together and work

531
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: it out. It must not have been that serious because

532
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: she was selling merch and she was doing this now,

533
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: who knows how serious it really is. She knew the

534
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: kind of niggas she was dating, so maybe this was

535
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: not beyond the pail to her. Maybe she was like,

536
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: he might get mad.

537
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just how we do in

538
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: our house. It ain't that big a deal.

539
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 2: But they unfollowed each other on Instagram, uh, which is

540
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: kind of wild that this is uh a family that

541
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 2: seemed to have been together. And what if we can

542
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: literally trace it back to this one tweet and be like,

543
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: we don't know that it was the first job, but

544
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: it definitely was the last.

545
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 4: And it's also one of those things too, to where

546
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: you can't do this and just not expect her to

547
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: have no response to it, like literally like you did that,

548
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: and you just thought you was gonna beat your chest

549
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: and whoop your dick out and she was supposed to go, oh, okay, baby,

550
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: you know, cause it's one of those things where not

551
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: trying to be funny and and and it's not too

552
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: uh call him out, but nigga, you ain't nobody. I

553
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: don't mean no harm, Like we know who she is,

554
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: we don't know who you are, and well, he ain't.

555
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: Nobody to us, correct because see this is the other

556
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: thing too, And I noticed this is how parasocial relationship

557
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: shit happens.

558
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: Everyone talking about it talks about how expendable he is

559
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: and we're.

560
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: Only talking about our value system. We didn't have a

561
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: baby with him. I have no idea how she feels

562
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: about this man, you know what I mean, So it's.

563
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Easy like to meet.

564
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: That's why I think some of the social media stuff

565
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: in her response is a little weird and also feels

566
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: like a young person's type of decision, because to me,

567
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: the response is more like winning the public or right,

568
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: not even winning, she's already winning, riding the public wave

569
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: of like this conflict and how much people support you.

570
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're riding the wave.

571
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: But if this dude is feeling a certain way and

572
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: that's half the fucking parentage of your kid, and however

573
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: y'all are romantically, that could be a long term inconvenience

574
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: or problem for you. If he really is so somebody

575
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: that is actually feeling like like what y'all were doing

576
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: fine and then he did this shit and then you're

577
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: now riding the.

578
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Wave of it.

579
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: I can see how that's not a smart long term

580
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: decision because if that's a real person that you care

581
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: about and not you know, somebody you're using for cloud

582
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: on the internet.

583
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: Or something, you know, it's like probably best.

584
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: That you do clean that up before you make move

585
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: on to make jokes and try to get tweeter on

586
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: your side.

587
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: And it's also one of those things to where when

588
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: things like this happen, only time will tell if maturity

589
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: will jump in or not, and whether this is the

590
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 4: beginning of a pattern of a just a dysfunctional public relationship,

591
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 4: because we see those two online and or you know,

592
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 4: they might you know, they might have a conversation, but

593
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: she'd be like, hey, next time, just give me your call,

594
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: just call me, like, don't do this bullshit, right, you know,

595
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 4: and even privately, you know, your insecurities, all that stuff

596
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 4: can come up. But guess what, there's no video cameras.

597
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: You're not putting on the show for your boys, And

598
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: so all that was an ego thing, because if ego

599
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: was not involved, you would have just pulled her to

600
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: the side. You wouldn't have felt like you had to

601
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: do some form of a public display about her.

602
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I means yeah, And I think because people have

603
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: been obviously comparing them all kinds of other dudes that

604
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: just don't do shit like this, you know, which is

605
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: also interesting because even the quote unquote bad boys, the

606
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: dudes that we consider to be like the bad boys

607
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: of pop culture and stuff, a lot of times they

608
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: date women that do dress like that all the time. Before,

609
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, like it's not like to them, it's like, yeah,

610
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: I got a bad chick and y'all looking at her

611
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: like I want y'all to know she the baddest or whatever.

612
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: And also now when like beauty can be his own

613
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: like literal economy for one person, like you can be like,

614
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: what do you do? I'm I'm just like an influencer

615
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: of some type.

616
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: These dudes are dating chicks that how they look and

617
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: being attractive and everybody want to fuck them is the

618
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: fucking thing they do for a living. In a lot

619
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: of cases. The difference I think in this case is

620
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: this dude got with Kiki Palmer and didn't think that

621
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: she was gonna ever be in that type of lane.

622
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying she wouldn't have wanted to or whatever.

623
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: I just know she wasn't in that lane. She may

624
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: have been trying to be out there for a while,

625
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: and you know, the world will just fucking turn up

626
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: once we've typecasting.

627
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: That's just who you are, you everybody real niece.

628
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: But at the same time, she may want to be

629
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: seen this seen this way, or she may have decided

630
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: this and it changed the dynamics of the relationship, and

631
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: it's either and that's that's the thing about long term relationships.

632
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: You're never really dating a staff fixture of a person.

633
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: You're dating a changing of evolving person. Every day you're

634
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: dating there. The relationship is the promise to be there

635
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: tomorrow for the person that's not here yet, you know,

636
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I'm not just dating you, I'm dating

637
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: who I want, who you want to be, who who

638
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: you think you'll be, who you will become. That's what

639
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: a relationship commitment is. I'm not saying everybody makes it

640
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: to that. Sometimes people check out, and that's and part

641
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: of the reason you check out is you're not who

642
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: you were, You're not who I thought you were. You're

643
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: becoming someone different and I don't want to and or

644
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm becoming different and I'm not who you thought I was.

645
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: Like that's why relationships a lot of times.

646
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: Break up, right, and it's it's something that happens all

647
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: the time.

648
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: This could be the breakup point.

649
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Just he could have been uncomfortable the last six months,

650
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: like what is this, Like Kiki, I thought we was

651
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: doing something different and that.

652
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: Bulls down to have had a conversation in the.

653
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: House, right, like I'm I'm I'm supposing, you know, because

654
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

655
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: Most people men, women, significant of the No matter what

656
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 4: you are, your insecurities will show up in relationships and

657
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: they have to be discussed in order for the relationship

658
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: to be, like you said, to be strong, you know,

659
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 4: because once the communication breaks down, everything else breaks down.

660
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: A lot of times too. It's like communication stops and

661
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 4: then nothing else matters if y'all don't get that shit

662
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: back on track.

663
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think not too long ago, we've seen

664
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: examples where it's well, I'll just say it's been divisive

665
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: for a long time about men, women, motherhood, fatherhood, all

666
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: the double standards, the misogny, patriarchy of you know, like

667
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: all of.

668
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: That stuff is. It's just been that way for a

669
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: long time.

670
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: And I think because especially this dude is not special

671
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: to us, we don't know him as a as a

672
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: public culture.

673
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: Right, we're not gonna be on his side anyway. Now.

674
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: If this is two famous motherfuckers, I don't know what

675
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: would happen.

676
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: I'm being honest, because motherfuckers ain't consistent, Like, you know,

677
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: if it was, if it was he.

678
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: Was famous, if she wasn't, I don't know what it

679
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: would be. I really don't.

680
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I've seen most of the

681
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: people kind of really be like, man, this nigg she

682
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: need to just get rid of this nigga then, you know,

683
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: because this is what it is or whatever.

684
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: But that's one part of it, with him being young.

685
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: With the usher putting on a real show, with Kiki's evolution.

686
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: But then there's this other part of it too that

687
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: I think is like social media's power m hm.

688
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Because if he would.

689
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: Have just been a random dude and got roasted on Twitter,

690
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: that would have been kind of like whatever, that would

691
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: a loser. We would have made up whatever about him

692
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 2: because he seems like a troll, like looking at his

693
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: old tweets and stuff.

694
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: But him being like actually in her.

695
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Life changes a lot, like like we're used to a

696
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: nigga with an Ashley opinion everyone. So while you're like, yeah,

697
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: that's just some of everybody ain't gonna agree, you know,

698
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: look at all the people that took Future side when

699
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: it was somehow Future versus Sierra, and people was like,

700
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 2: but he's so cool.

701
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Men were like, he's so cool.

702
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: He even he's not cool enough to mistreat a very

703
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: famous woman and and forever.

704
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: Wow, y'all these new niggas. But yeah, I just think

705
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: that that.

706
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: So you have, you have that America's connection, the key key,

707
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: Black Twitter's connection, the key key the gender wars of

708
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: it all. Because also I think this is like, to me,

709
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 2: if you look at that whole scene, it seemed like

710
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: us is just putting on a show for a lot

711
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: of black women. It's like black girl time. And just

712
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: like Megan and Stallion talking at essence, fest isn't really

713
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: about anything but just like the girls having a good time, right, the.

714
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: Girls having a good time watching us, just saying that's

715
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 4: why they came, That's why the shit got extended two

716
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 4: or three times, that's why he's been doing it forever,

717
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: Like this fuck around might be a permanent.

718
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 2: Residency, right so they Yeah, I just think it's kind

719
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: of interesting that that's a big part of this whole

720
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: thing is black girls just having a good time.

721
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: You could have just left it alone.

722
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: If you was tired about it, could have texted or later,

723
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, And I do, but I do think it's

724
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 2: just as weirdly parasocial and callous to like celebrate the

725
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: idea of that family that if that seemed.

726
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: To be happy before it possibly was happy before.

727
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: We don't know for sure, but it feels weird to

728
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: celebrate that they're not gonna they possibly might not be together,

729
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: you know, because I think also there's a huge possibility

730
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: they will be together because this nigga was this nigga

731
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: the whole time.

732
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: Only time will tell.

733
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: It's just probably we weren't paying.

734
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: Attention and she didn't care, right, And a lot of

735
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: women are with dudes like this, like just like this. Yeah,

736
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: so like I'm not that you know, fucking I would

737
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: not be shocked to see these motherfuckers make it through this,

738
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: because people make it through way worse shit anyway, Yes

739
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 2: they do, but to some extent they may have a

740
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: similar value system because one thing people forgotten this last

741
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: like three years, that Kiki's really gotten it together social

742
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: media wise and everything. Kiki used to be the person

743
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: everybody was like, she would tweet something, everybody being her

744
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: shit like I remember being like you classist and all

745
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: this shit, Like she used to get canceled on Twitter.

746
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 2: So maybe her and his opinions ain't that fucking far off.

747
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 4: You know, Like guess what they are private?

748
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like she learned to stop sharing that ship

749
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: and it seemed like he needs to learn that shit too.

750
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think that's that's weird that, you know,

751
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: I think people are acting really weird because I do.

752
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 2: I don't think the extremes are equal, but the extremes

753
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: to me of basically you should never even worry about

754
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: anything involve your significant other and whatever, Like do you

755
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: have that version that I'm just like, Okay, well that's

756
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: probably sociopathic and it's definitely probably gender driven because you absolutely.

757
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: Have some some ship that you don't want your man doing.

758
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I'm not judging.

759
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: I really, like we say on the show at the time, uh,

760
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: if it's too consenting adult and it's not abuse, have

761
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: at it, right. So you know, I know there's some

762
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: women that like the whole like open the door for me,

763
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: pay pay for the meal, you know, all that you

764
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: buy the dress and all that, and they and they

765
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 2: and to them, they perform a certain type of femininity

766
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: that the dude likes.

767
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: If y'all happy, if y'all like it, I love it,

768
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

769
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: So I don't really put it past the idea that

770
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers could stay together just because they seem to

771
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: have been happy before, and maybe they were, and maybe

772
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: this ship was him fucking up, but it wasn't a uh,

773
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't the deal breaker that a lot of people

774
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: think it is.

775
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: It's right, so that could be possible.

776
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 2: So I don't but I think a lot of people

777
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: that are rooting for her to break up with him,

778
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: if she shows back up with this nigga, they will

779
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: kind of turn on her.

780
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

781
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but but just like it's her choice to

782
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 4: go to the usher Regiscy and to be with him,

783
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: and like a lot of these are choices and a

784
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: lot of it goes back down to now since y'all

785
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 4: got niggas involved.

786
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: Now, we want to control you, right, So I think

787
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: that could be yeah, And we've seen that happen with

788
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: other people, for like Cardi being Offset, Like I thought

789
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: it was really weird and childish when people were hoping

790
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: she cheated on Offset even though they had seen the

791
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: resolve whatever their issues were.

792
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: As a family like a year or two ago, and

793
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: yet people were like, it's just for the like staying culture,

794
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: get back of it. Not because they don't actually see

795
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: these people as human beings. They see them as avatars

796
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: for the insecurities that they harbor, which is why so

797
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: many men glombed on to this dude they never heard

798
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: of until he said geek.

799
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: Bomba better put some cloves on.

800
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: A lot of men glomb onto him because they are

801
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: insecure people that needed an avatar.

802
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: They don't know this dude.

803
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: They don't care about the rest of his stances and

804
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: the fucked up things he said in the past and

805
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: all that.

806
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: To them, he's the new hero.

807
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 4: Right and that's the thing. They don't care about the

808
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 4: consequences and repercussions of his relationship.

809
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: And every right they don't. I don't care about that and.

810
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Every man who has issues feeling like they need to

811
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: control women and all that shit that jumped out of them.

812
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: And you can see those men, you know, being on

813
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: the other side of this, just as fervent as to

814
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: leave on this This motherfuckers too, Like it's all it's all

815
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: just variations of the same shit because we don't know

816
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 2: these strangers, you know. But the conversations that it creates

817
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: are kind of like foddering. They're good like things that

818
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: I guess think through or whatever. What I thought was

819
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: funny too, is Usher's still doing this concerts, and so

820
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: Winnie Harlowe is a model.

821
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: You'll know her. I'll put her picture up. You'll know

822
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: when you see it.

823
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: But she's a model and she's dating NBA player Kyle Kuzma,

824
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: who just got that hunting and something million dollar contract

825
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: to stay with the Wizards. So they were sitting in

826
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: the front row and Usher came up to try to

827
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: serenade her, and she went and sat on his lap.

828
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: He's still serenaded her anyway, but she was sitting on

829
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: his lap, you know, on this her man's laugh and

830
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 2: they're laughing about it.

831
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 4: You know, and and to me, it's funny and playful,

832
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: because you know, it's one of those things where you know,

833
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 4: from that respective it was like, ah, we ain't gonna

834
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: be that. Or either she was like, if he come

835
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: over here, I'm gonna go over here. I'm just gonna

836
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: sit on you, like like that's how fund it Like

837
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: it could have been two ways it could have been.

838
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 4: They both was like no, or it could have been

839
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 4: we both gonna joke, you know him if he comes

840
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 4: over here.

841
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: And I thought, this is how far it's gone, Karen.

842
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: People are arguing about that, like they're like, she's a

843
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: whack bitch because you if your man won't let you

844
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: get up there with usher, than you da da da.

845
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: And this is why I said, this is why I'm saying,

846
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: like the extremes and the the insecurities are jumping out

847
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: of people because I guess I don't have those insecurities.

848
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: And I looked at it and start all that is

849
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: funny that everyone's laughing. It didn't look like Calcus and

850
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: like yanked her arm like you better not, bitch, Like

851
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't no abusive looking shit. It would look like

852
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: some funny stuff and it low key was kind of

853
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: that same like it kind of These are also young people,

854
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: but they kind of like it's kind of like the

855
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: older point of view about it, where it's like, yeah,

856
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm still gonna let you say her navy, but this.

857
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: Is for my man wait till we get home.

858
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: It was cute, and yet people been like calling her

859
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: like all kinds of fun and I'm talking women saying

860
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: this to her like she's like she somehow let down

861
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: to feminism because she didn't like go up there and grind.

862
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: On usher at It's like, so it's so weird. It

863
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: feels like.

864
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: The worst things about social media's like more liberal side

865
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: is that they can go so extreme to where like

866
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: you lose choice, you know what I mean, where.

867
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: It's like some some people are gonna be like.

868
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: It's like a bitch, you don't got it only pans,

869
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: you know, Like they take it to that level. You're like, well,

870
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: I support you having on fans. I just I don't

871
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: have to make that choice. Right, If you wouldn't do pornography,

872
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: then can you truly say you are sex positive?

873
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: It's like all right, come on right, it's like I

874
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 4: actually can, like we're talking about here.

875
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: But yes, So they they went and they went and

876
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: they went and they went to the concert and that happened,

877
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 2: and that was just kind of like a cute, funny story.

878
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: And at least I thought so. But yeah, that's not

879
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: how to in that treat It is no World War seventeen.

880
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 4: It's not it did it did, like I said, and

881
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: and a lot is is just perfect for the Internet

882
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: because all it does is the war to sexy. They

883
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: might as shoot might as well posted this and wrote

884
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: thoughts and like like like that's literally what it is,

885
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 4: like them stupid ass Facebook means I don't even see them.

886
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 4: The more most of them people that got I got

887
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: damn Timeline, who you see them?

888
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: Face with me?

889
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: What if your girl walk in there but booty naked

890
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 4: at three am in the morning eating a piece of

891
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: fried chicken with your roommate. What you're gonna do, like, bitch,

892
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: that would never happen? And this is stupid? What are

893
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 4: we talking about here?

894
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: Right?

895
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: So that was like a big one, and I have

896
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: like a deeper thing I want to get into. Let's

897
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 2: get relationships in general. But I'm gonna do this next.

898
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk this next story to death first and

899
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: then we're to come back to that. But you know,

900
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little relationship theory for those that like

901
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: to hear us talk about relationships stuff.

902
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: Oh shit, are we gonna get canceled?

903
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: Nah?

904
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Naw. These females know what the they know what's up,

905
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: they know what's hole's no.

906
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: Jonah Hill's ex, Sarah Brady blast him over alleged quote

907
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: unquote emotional abuse. So Jonah Hill's ask girlfriend who is

908
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: like a surfer or was a surfer when he met her,

909
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: and you know surfers, they wear not a lot of clothes,

910
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: and he thought that was pretty cute, like this this

911
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: isto the Tiki Palmer where he got with her as

912
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: American Sweetheart and then was like what it is like,

913
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: but I.

914
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: Surf, so I wear fucking bikinis. This is what I do.

915
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: So they got together because he thought she was a

917
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: cute surfer woman and then.

918
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: They ended up breaking up. And I want to say

919
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: that was like maybe a year ago.

920
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: He's now with a new woman who I believe they

921
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: either are expecting or recently had a baby. In fact,

922
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: let me look it up. But uh, yeah, they just

923
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: welcomed their first baby in Jim.

924
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: So he's he's moved on. Maybe she's moved on or not.

925
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

926
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: But uh, in the wake of this like you know,

927
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: baby news and kind of nothing else really being going

928
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: on about Jonah Hill, she this weekend pulled out some

929
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: screenshots or some text and Instagram any.

930
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: Particular reason or she just like, I'm she just literally

931
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: said that.

932
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: She like, she just put the screenshots on there and

933
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: said fuck it, like that's that's literally the caption f

934
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: you x k it.

935
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Fuck it.

936
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: She did not accuse him many physical abuse, but she

937
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: said shared the screen recording of a message her ex

938
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: allegedly once sent her in which he stated that some

939
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: of her Instagram picks are inappropriate playing and this is

940
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: from December second, twenty twenty one, plain and simple. If

941
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: you need surfing with men, boundary less inappropriate friendships with

942
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: men to model, to post pictures of yourself in a

943
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: bathing suit, to post sexual pictures, friendships with women who

944
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: are in unstable places and from your wild recent past.

945
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Beyond getting a lunch or coffee or something respectful, I

946
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: am not the right partner for you. If these things

947
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: bring you to a place of happiness, I support it

948
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: and there will be no hard feelings. These are my

949
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: boundaries for a romantic partnership, my boundaries with you based

950
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 2: on the ways these actions have hurt our trust.

951
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing people shared.

952
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: And most people only saw this image, or a lot

953
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: of people only saw this image and just went I'm

954
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: on his side regardless.

955
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna be honest.

956
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: Almost any time you see a wall of text with

957
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: no replies, is almost never looks good for the person

958
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: sending the text, just in general general rule of thumb.

959
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, she did add these.

960
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: Later she said she put another screenshot of some text

961
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: back and forth and put. This is a warning to

962
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: all girls. If your partner is talking to you like this,

963
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: make an exit plan. Love, y'all call me if you

964
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: need an ear. Now, here's what the screenshot says.

965
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: Respect.

966
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 2: However, you want to live your life, you only get

967
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: one sort of done with explaining myself, She replied, three,

968
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: remove not the video yet. It is my best surfing video.

969
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 2: Would you feel better if the cover frame was different?

970
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: Any more specific ones that bother you? This is so,

971
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 2: this is her taking down the post because he's decided

972
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: he don't want he don't want her to post him

973
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: and said he's done explaining himself. He said, yes, one

974
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: that isn't of your ass, and a thong. She said

975
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: not a thong, but okay, And he said, in as

976
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 2: far as the other pictures, you would abathing surfing suit

977
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: or not.

978
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: So keep in mind this woman is a surfer.

979
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: She's posting, she's been posting the whole time surfing pictures.

980
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: Now that they're together, he's like, nah, you need to

981
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 2: change all of that and go back and take these

982
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: old pictures down right.

983
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: This is shit I was talking about before, where it's

984
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 4: like it's different than the kind of than the kiki

985
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 4: palmer thing you got with her for this, and then

986
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 4: you're like, nah, rein it in and you're like, but

987
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: that's why you're here.

988
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously like it's it's also my career.

989
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: So it's not just like this isn't you're making it

990
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 2: seems my Instagram is only for the attention of other

991
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: men or something, where.

992
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: If this is what I do for a living, is

993
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: what the fuck I do for a living?

994
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 4: Right?

995
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: You can't change that, you know.

996
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: Uh So Then in another one she posted, I too

997
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: struggle with mental health, but I did not use it

998
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 2: to control people like he did to me. It's been

999
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: a year of hell and growth, with the help of

1000
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: loved ones and doctors to get back to living my

1001
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: life without guilt, shame, and self judgment for things the

1002
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: smallest surfing in the swimsuit rather than a more conservative wetsuit.

1003
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's still much more healing from this

1004
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: abuse ahead of me. Another time, he texted another wall

1005
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: of one side of text, which, like I said, I

1006
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: don't know how y'all get down, but that's like a

1007
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: red flag, just wall on one side of text. You

1008
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: was feeling the way and the lack of a response

1009
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: was making you do a bunch of wild shit too,

1010
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 2: like I don't know, man, but this is the one

1011
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: that says this is from him. It's just constant and

1012
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: doesn't reflect where we're at or where you want say

1013
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: you want to be. I respect your skill and your surface.

1014
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 2: I respect how you want to present yourself. I respect

1015
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: it your hot and beautiful, and I respect however you

1016
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: want to live. But I also respect myself and what

1017
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 2: I'm interested in in my own life and what I

1018
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: let into my heart inner circle. So celebrate your self

1019
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: in your life however you please, and shine bright. But

1020
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: I don't want. I don't have to deal. And that's

1021
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: where it cuts off. And then another one she put o,

1022
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: I don't care for your misogyny, and he said, you're right.

1023
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,959
Speaker 2: We can't do surf social things or develop trust until

1024
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: you consider me and make decisions that give regard to

1025
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: our relationship. I've been vulnerable as possible. I'm telling you

1026
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm needing you to step up to the plate, which

1027
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 2: you can.

1028
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: I am sure of it.

1029
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: But these losers don't get your time. If you want

1030
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: me straight up, it's consideration. I respect your love of surfing,

1031
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: but I respect myself as well, and your love of

1032
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: surfing and being in those situations and lack of awareness

1033
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 2: are not mutually exclusive.

1034
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: This isn't me. I have my own issues that I own.

1035
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: If you want marriage and family, you can't use the

1036
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: twenty five cards. Step up and cut shit. These people

1037
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,479
Speaker 2: don't get your time or your.

1038
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: Kindness at the sacrifice of minds. And he said by

1039
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: these people he meant any friend of mine he hadn't

1040
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: personally approved of. Another time, he wrote, literally just say

1041
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: hello and leave the convo. I love how your therapist

1042
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: think I suck. I literally am the best boyfriend on earth.

1043
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, those are like.

1044
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: The exchanges they had, and once again gender divide. I've

1045
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: been seeing men especially, not a lot, but the people

1046
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: who I've seen be like on Jonah Hill's side have

1047
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: mostly been men like being like.

1048
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: All he did was what y'all say y'all want men

1049
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: to do.

1050
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: He just expressed his emotions and communicated his boundaries and

1051
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: he didn't do nothing wrong. And she clearly like an

1052
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: evil bitch because she's they broke up, and she posted

1053
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: this a year after they broke up, Like, why is

1054
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: she even posting this?

1055
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: What does it even got to do with anything? Blah

1056
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. You know, and I will give.

1057
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: Him this though she said she doesn't want him to

1058
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: respond because she's scared him. And I will say, that's

1059
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: the most like millennial bullshit. I don't, I truly just

1060
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: don't believe in that. You You can't just bully somebody

1061
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: the reverse way of being like I'm such the victim.

1062
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: No one gets to hear your side of it, only

1063
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: what I'm accusing you of. You can't explain shit, you

1064
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 2: can't say shit. You you better not address it either

1065
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: or else I'm gonna say, now I'm scared of you.

1066
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: It's kind of like a little bit of having it

1067
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 2: both ways, like I'm sorry, but but that we know

1068
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: that's not a real that's not a reality, and it's

1069
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: just to set up anything he says as he's the

1070
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 2: bully and he's being he's abusing me now uh and

1071
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: and y'all are witnessing him abuse me. So and once

1072
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: again not now, I'm not on his side, but that

1073
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 2: that clearly is like a that's like a new it's

1074
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: like a new nigga thing, a new it's like a

1075
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: millennial thing, whatever their generation at the millennial thing, it's

1076
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: like a very kind of like moral I have the

1077
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: right of way situation to them, and I'm just like

1078
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: this as a gen X person.

1079
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, the street is always both ways,

1080
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: whether you're right or wrong.

1081
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: Even when you have the moral authority, the motherfucker is

1082
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: gonna always get a chance to say what they're gonna say.

1083
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: To right down and that like it's all good.

1084
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: No, it's not like you shit on somebody that's publicly

1085
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 2: where you know it's gonna go viral and fuck up

1086
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: their career.

1087
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: The I did it, they will say nothing is it's

1088
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: almost immature at that point, like that they you know, or.

1089
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Or if they say anything is now they're threatening you.

1090
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: Is also like it's just not fact.

1091
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: It's just not facts, right, And it's also.

1092
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 4: One of those things where like I said, I hope

1093
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 4: I've never actually put in that position, and I hope

1094
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: I'm mature and everybody claim what they would have, could

1095
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: have should it. But I can't promise you if a

1096
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 4: situation blows up online that I won't be like bitch,

1097
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 4: what you say, like you know what I'm saying. I

1098
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: can't promise you that I won't do that under certain situations,

1099
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 4: in certain circumstances like I like, like, I really do

1100
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 4: hope that I am mature enough to put the phone

1101
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: down talk to people, But I can't promise you when

1102
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 4: I wrapped up in my emotions and all I see

1103
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 4: is your fucking side of the story. And I'm just

1104
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: supposed to sit there and just let you la la

1105
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 4: la la la la la la la la la la la,

1106
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 4: And I can't be like, bitch, shut the fuck up.

1107
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: I got an opinion too. You're not the only one

1108
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 4: that experienced the situation. I do too. You know I

1109
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 4: was there too. I experienced too. We went through this together,

1110
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: may have had two different circumstances, but what happened is

1111
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: just not from your perspective.

1112
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the thing for this to me is,

1113
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: I think it's obviously his own insecurities, especially with the

1114
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: fact that they got together.

1115
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: This has always been heard. There has always been how

1116
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: she presented herself.

1117
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the words in there

1118
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: are so filled with like passive aggressiveness, but also kind

1119
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 2: of like Jerry on Jerry Rick and Morty where he's

1120
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: playing the like I'm pathetic card kind of and and

1121
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 2: in a way it shuts down, it makes he has

1122
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: to be right because he's pathetic.

1123
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1124
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: It's the I know you're high and your beautiful and listen,

1125
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 2: these are just my boundaries. I'm I'm just saying, I'm

1126
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: an break up with you, but it's your choice, no

1127
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: hard feelings. It's that kind of like manipulative, like I'm

1128
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: a loser, but not really to me that I'm picking

1129
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: up from the stuff he's saying, and I think and

1130
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: he's doing it to manipulate her actions to be like, yeah, you.

1131
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: Have to take these pictures down because I'm the one.

1132
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: Being taken advantage of by you posting pictures that you

1133
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: always posted.

1134
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: You know why you wet a bikini?

1135
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 2: Why why are you wearing a wet suit? Well you

1136
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 2: I was wearing a wet suit every the whole time.

1137
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: I was wearing a bikinia the whole fucking time. Well,

1138
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: now you're disrespecting our relationship. It all has to come

1139
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: down that, yeah, And that's like to me, that's and

1140
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 2: then what he and what he's not saying it like bitch,

1141
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: take that shit down. You a mom. He's saying it

1142
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: like because you know, it's just a boundary for me,

1143
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: it's it's therapy terms, it's it's you know, counting it

1144
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: in the language of passive ship, so that I'm a

1145
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: victim here, and and then it makes you feel guilty

1146
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: because you're you're you're causing this pain to me. That's

1147
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: why I say it reminds me of Jerry from Rick

1148
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: and Morty because he's the victim and I all feel

1149
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 2: sorry for me, But really he's manipulating you into doing

1150
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: some shit that if he would have just said, bitch,

1151
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: take them pictures down, we would all be like, yeah,

1152
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: that's abusive.

1153
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, it's one of those things where he could

1154
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 4: have left the relationship at any period of time, Like

1155
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And my thing is she

1156
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 4: was doing this when y'all met, So these actions in

1157
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 4: these picts and stuff, it's nothing new, right, you know,

1158
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 4: And it sounds like y'all had y'all y'all had conversations

1159
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 4: to talk to each other outside of those texts, and

1160
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: you know, we're not privity to any of these conversations

1161
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 4: and what was said, Yeah, all that type of stuff.

1162
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do.

1163
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: And I think there's something to the people that are

1164
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: skeptical of this because they're like she did wait till

1165
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: this nigga had it's seen this nigga had moved on,

1166
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: had a whole different thing. And also this isn't our

1167
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 2: business so like, and a lot of people don't agree

1168
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: that this is even abuse, Like I know some people

1169
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: think it's abused, but and it's like it's an emotional

1170
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 2: abuse and stuff. But I think the term abuse has

1171
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: gone too it's gotten too vague, like like the stuff.

1172
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: It's like how what people try to do with violence

1173
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: where it's like you're doing that to escalate the language,

1174
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: but you're also doing that so that we can label stuff.

1175
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: You can make people bad guys.

1176
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, if you have a conflict, then all of

1177
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: a sudden, the conflict the person you have in conflict with, that's.

1178
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: Now abuse and there's no other reason theory, you know.

1179
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: So like, obviously I'm aware that the person is delivering

1180
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: the message.

1181
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: Of course they're biased. She's not ever really putting out

1182
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 2: what she said. It's when he was saying, wowd shit.

1183
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: Correct. I don't know. There's a big age gap.

1184
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: She was only like I think she's twenty five now

1185
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: when he's thirty nine or something, so like like there's

1186
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: a big age gap, so there's already some weird power

1187
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: dynamics still gonna be at play anyway. And also at

1188
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: that age that's when people kind of date and do

1189
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 2: loser shit anyway, Like not that she's a loser, but yeah,

1190
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of when people can make those

1191
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: quote uquote mistakes of being like I was this kind

1192
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: of person I was learning the kind of person I

1193
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: don't want to be with this is So I think

1194
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 2: that's part of it too, that that that age gap.

1195
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: And also Jonah Hill seems to be like this, at

1196
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: least he's tried to. He may put a special on

1197
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: Netflix with his therapist, so he wants to be like

1198
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: this master of therapy nigga. But and this is what

1199
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: I said, I've been saying for a long time. Me

1200
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: and Bossy talked about this a lot, the way people

1201
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: are using these therapy words to then be the person

1202
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: who's wrong but said the right therapy words that that

1203
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: is the thing that gives them cover. So like he

1204
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: can say it's a boundary, but when is policing what

1205
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: your person wears a boundary for you? That's like that's

1206
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: not even really how boundaries work. Boundaries are like be here,

1207
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: or don't be here. You don't use a boundary to

1208
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: like control and manipulate a person. The only time you

1209
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: really see that as a recommended thing is if you're

1210
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 2: talking to someone who's like a drug addict, where people

1211
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 2: will say you can use a bound like I will

1212
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 2: not be in your life if you're doing cocaine, right.

1213
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1214
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: But he's using that language to somebody to be like,

1215
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't like your twenty five year twenty three year

1216
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: old surfer woman and you have bikini pictures up there

1217
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: from when I got with you and Dion, right we

1218
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 2: not married or nothing, but just you know, you need

1219
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 2: to change everything, and it's about it's about me being happy. Hey,

1220
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to. I'll just break up with you,

1221
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 2: no big deal, you know. Like it's like it is

1222
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: that kind of like control that you feel that I

1223
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: feel oozing.

1224
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: From his text. So I think that's a big part

1225
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: of it too.

1226
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 2: And I think the the thing I wanted to kind

1227
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: of like bring all this shit together with is this.

1228
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: I think the way people are arguing over all this stuff,

1229
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: the way that men are food by the Jonah Hill

1230
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: thing or they just entite them in the privilege, don't allow.

1231
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Them to see what he's doing.

1232
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: And the way that men versus women on the extremes

1233
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: of the Kiki Palmer thing has broken out. This is

1234
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: a man versus woman conversation, and that's because it's a

1235
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: very obviously says he had on normal.

1236
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: To patriarch conversation too. Yes, right, But I think what's

1237
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: happening here is this.

1238
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: This is the thing I think about love all the

1239
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: time and relationships all the time. And one of the

1240
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: reasons we don't really do relationship talk and letters and

1241
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 2: advice and shit, because I think the vast majority of

1242
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: people look at relationships, especially romantic partnerships of any kind,

1243
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: they look at them, in my opinion, wrong, you know,

1244
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: it's just my opinion. It's just the way I see life,

1245
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, But they look at them wrong because it's

1246
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 2: about power, yes, and to most people, they need to

1247
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: be and feel the most powerful, and it's who's winning

1248
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: this power struggle. That's why people, you know, like to

1249
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: see couples fight. That's why people spread you know, those

1250
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: viral podcast videos about a man saying something stupid to

1251
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 2: a woman, or or you know, somebody saying something fucking

1252
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 2: fucked up, and then that goes viral because about power

1253
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 2: and conflict. Power breeds conflict and we want to see

1254
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 2: who's winning the conflict.

1255
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: That's who's most powerful.

1256
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 4: Right, regular normal as people who are in a happy relationship,

1257
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: they are boring as fuck.

1258
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not like about It's about content

1259
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: and content generation and what we can generate off the content.

1260
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 2: And also it helps us to all look better than

1261
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: these people.

1262
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: And even when it's the.

1263
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 2: Lowest of bars, like motherfucker's all dunk on somebody.

1264
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Like uh, fellas if it don't be like this.

1265
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: And it's like a dude that just like kick kicked

1266
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 2: this woman down the flight the stairs, it's like, well, nigga,

1267
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: no one should be like that.

1268
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: You're not a hero, you know what I mean?

1269
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 2: Like you like, we're not sitting around like thank god

1270
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: he said it, you know, uh, you know, don't don't

1271
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: you know. I wouldn't have tweet it that my woman

1272
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: like that. Of course most people wouldn't have. Even the

1273
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: fucked up dudes know not to do that shit. You're

1274
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: you're not special, you know. But anyway, I think people

1275
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: we get to dunk on them and we like to

1276
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: engage in that stuff. But relationships about power. Power about control.

1277
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: Control is about fear. Yes, So I think ultimately in

1278
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: both of these, both of these you know, timeline discussions

1279
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: and the discussions that they generated, and the original conflicts

1280
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: you're talking about scared men, Jonah Hill usually tries he

1281
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: almost to make her scared because he's scared. I'm I'm

1282
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: forty year old Jonah Hill or whatever, thirty seven year

1283
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 2: old Jonah Hill with the reputation, thirty seven year old

1284
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: Jonah Hill, with all the attention focused on my body

1285
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 2: and all the insecurities I have and all this other

1286
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: shit and all, you know, the.

1287
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: Entitlement that comes with everything.

1288
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: I got the money and that all that I'm dating

1289
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: this much younger woman that is very attractive, and everybody

1290
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: sees it that I was attracted to and decided to

1291
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: holler at and she gave me some attention. But anybody

1292
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: can slide up in them dems. I'm sure other men

1293
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: sliding up in them dms all the time. So he

1294
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: feels like, I need to control you. I'm scared, scared

1295
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: of the next nigga that slides in the DMS or whatever,

1296
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: Scared because I don't trust you.

1297
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Or whatever it is.

1298
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna own it. I'm gonna make you

1299
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: change your image. If it's your problem, then it's not

1300
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: my problem.

1301
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 4: And I don't have to change correct acknowledge it, talk

1302
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: about it, actually face it, work through it to figure

1303
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 4: out why am I feeling this way or what's the

1304
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 4: root foundation of me feeling this way, so that I

1305
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: can Sometimes you don't overcome insecurities.

1306
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: You learn how to.

1307
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 4: Live with them, and you can learn how to be

1308
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: aware of when things trigger them so that you can

1309
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: act accordingly. These things don't disappear, nor do they go away,

1310
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 4: because you're a human being. But the world and I

1311
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: remember BOSSI said this, and once she said this, I

1312
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 4: think she even said on my showing time. I have

1313
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 4: to taking this to heart and I will always function

1314
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 4: like this. You have to adjust to the world. The

1315
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: world will not adjust to you. Yeah, And so I

1316
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 4: thought about it that I was like, yeah, that's true.

1317
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 4: So you have to learn how to function in the world.

1318
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 4: And you have to learn how to function with your insecurities,

1319
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 4: your flaws, your misgivings, how you were raise, all that

1320
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 4: type of stuff. You have to learn how to function

1321
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 4: in the world with these things. And you have to

1322
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 4: learn the world is not going to codter you. The

1323
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 4: world is gonna make you feel better based off of

1324
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 4: your insecurity.

1325
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the thing with the Jonah Hill think,

1326
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 2: because I think what you're saying is like, he's using

1327
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: this therapy language and it's something Yeah, me and Bossy

1328
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,959
Speaker 2: do talk about and I remember we have an episode

1329
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: talking about the world's not gonna be put in bubble wrap,

1330
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: you know. And so anyway, the point being, yeah, the language,

1331
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: he's using this therapy, but it's not what therapy does.

1332
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 2: Therapy doesn't do this like present everybody in your life

1333
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 2: with automato. This is the therapy you see on like

1334
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: social media where it's just sociopathic shit being quote unquote

1335
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: backed up by anonymous therapists, where it's like I told

1336
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: my boss I'm gonna come into work when I feel

1337
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: like it, and and our therapist said if they don't

1338
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 2: like it, fuck him, and you're just like, no therapist

1339
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 2: said that.

1340
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 4: You're right, No license therapists worth like, I don't.

1341
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: Know who you've been talking to on the phone, but

1342
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: get the fuck off the phone, because an actual therapist

1343
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: is not gonna tell you some shit to go and

1344
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: danger your job when you're clearly the one that's fucking wrong,

1345
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: Like they're just that they're not here to be your

1346
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 2: girlfriends and your best friends and patch you on the back.

1347
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's how he makes it sound.

1348
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: But did you peep how he also when he was like,

1349
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: your therapist thinks I'm the worst person in the world,

1350
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: meaning like, you can't trust your therapists.

1351
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 4: Now.

1352
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: My therapist told me I need to draw boundaries, and

1353
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: my boundaries are you can't put shit on Instagram no more.

1354
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: But your therapists hate me. Now, he's trash. Okay, get

1355
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 2: rid of him.

1356
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 4: You went in there. You don't know what kind of conversation.

1357
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: They had, right, Let me be your therapist, you know.

1358
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: But so you got people, in my opinion, in these

1359
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: relationships and the way they viewing with the power and

1360
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 2: the control and the fear, is that ultimately people see

1361
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: relationships as a box that they want to put someone in. Yes,

1362
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: and especially in this case, a lot of times it's

1363
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: the privilege of being a man, right that you even

1364
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 2: see the world this way as putting a woman in

1365
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: a box basically, But I would argue there's just different

1366
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: type of boxes for different people, and there's some boxes

1367
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 2: that people put men in and all that stuff, And

1368
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: of course there's people that date within the same gender,

1369
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: and you can still That's why I'm trying to keep

1370
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 2: the terms general when I say people see a relationship

1371
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 2: as a power thing, and then a power thing is

1372
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: about a control thing. A control thing is about a

1373
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: fear thing. And what don't you fear? The things in

1374
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: the boxes, the things you lock up. They can't surprise you,

1375
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: they can't hurt you because they're in their fucking box

1376
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: where they belong, in their place, And that's all it

1377
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: becomes about keeping them in their place.

1378
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: You are pursued.

1379
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 2: You pursued this person who was free making choices that

1380
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: attracted you, and then you said, I want this free

1381
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: thing to be boxed up so I can keep it. Yes,

1382
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: you on a cage a bird, But then why doesn't

1383
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: the cage bird sing? It don't sing like it used

1384
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: to no more because you got this motherfucking the cage, right.

1385
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 2: But before you know, they don't. This isn't even getting

1386
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 2: to that stage, right, They just throw you in the cage, right.

1387
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 2: And a lot of people fundamentally don't see a relationship

1388
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 2: as a commitment to edifying each other, supporting each other

1389
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: to be in that safety net under the tight rope,

1390
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 2: and sometimes being a safety that fucking sucks.

1391
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: That's part of the deal, is right.

1392
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 2: I got sick, you got this. Somebody gotta do something.

1393
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 2: You know, I'm working more. You gotta cook more, you

1394
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: gotta clean more, you gotta take two jobs.

1395
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: It could be whatever it is within a relationship.

1396
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: But the promise you made to each other is sometimes

1397
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: you gotta be the safety net. But to me, that's

1398
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: the idealistic, that's the ideal version. What often happens is

1399
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: some version like this. A lot of times it's the

1400
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 2: how much control can I have over you? And if

1401
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: it's not enough, you gotta go like I need to

1402
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 2: completely control this.

1403
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1404
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 4: And also a lot of those people and like I said,

1405
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, so maybe you can confirm this A

1406
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 4: lot of I'm talking about straight perspective when I say this.

1407
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 4: A lot of men who do this. Look at men

1408
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 4: who quote unquote don't control their women, like something is

1409
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 4: wrong with them when they allow their women to do whatever, hobbies,

1410
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 4: to go out without her, kick it with her girlfriends,

1411
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 4: be a professional, have a job, have a career, become

1412
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: a doctor, while he might have his master's or might

1413
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 4: not even have got a degree. You know, how he's

1414
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 4: just he's so secure in who he is that she

1415
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 4: doesn't intimidate him. And they look at men and they

1416
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 4: actually want to poke at him until and if that

1417
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: man isn't aware of that, they can pick up on

1418
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 4: those men in securities in a run and their relationships

1419
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 4: based off of some niggas that don't give a fuck

1420
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 4: about your happiness.

1421
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think also we see I know women see

1422
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,919
Speaker 2: this so often because men are so full of this,

1423
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: this type of control, because we've been told that your

1424
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: woman's almost like an accessory, put like a possession.

1425
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: And what a possession is about is how it.

1426
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 2: Reflects on you, how it's useful to you. Because it's

1427
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 2: a possession, possession, I'm supposed to have feelings. It doesn't

1428
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 2: have agency. And so it's like how your woman looks

1429
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: that reflects on you, and what kind of man you are,

1430
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: how she acts that reflects on you, what kind of

1431
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: man you are, How much control you have over her

1432
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 2: is about you being a better man, right, And people

1433
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 2: still believe in that logic to this day. But I

1434
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: think for me in general, I think how free a

1435
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 2: person is also matters, and I think how happy a

1436
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: person is also matters. And you know, it's like when

1437
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: you hear that those guys who say, like, if I

1438
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 2: married a woman.

1439
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: She ninety eight pounds, she better be ninety eight.

1440
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 2: Pounds forty years from now, because that's what she was

1441
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 2: when you got married. And it's like, I'm dating a

1442
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: static object.

1443
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 1: If my car was three thousand pounds when I bought it,

1444
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 1: it better be three thousand pound twenty years from now.

1445
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: That's how you talk.

1446
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: About an object, not a human fucking being. Right, You

1447
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: don't say that shit about yourself. If I'm earning sixty

1448
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars now, I better earn sixty thousand dollars. I'll

1449
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 2: better be making it that much every day for the

1450
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: rest of my life.

1451
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: Like you're not. You don't think that way.

1452
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: But in this the way we promote masculinity, it's like

1453
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: you must look like you're controlling her. And I'm sure,

1454
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: one hundred percent sure there's women versions of controlling men

1455
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: and shit too, you know, some of it being boundary stuff,

1456
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: some of it being unfair, you know, like I doutely

1457
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 2: get it. That's why I said I didn't knock the

1458
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 2: keiky palmer thing, the insecurity of it.

1459
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: I didn't knock that much because I think.

1460
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 2: It's very common, yes, And I think people make compromises

1461
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 2: in their relationship all the fucking time, the same way

1462
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 2: that some people be like, I don't want you go

1463
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 2: on to the strip club. Like I'm not saying everybody, obviously,

1464
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: the people listening to show that were about the right end.

1465
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: You're all really super cool. You let you let your

1466
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: girl fuck usher. I'm sure like it's not I'm not

1467
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 2: y'all do what y'all want to do. But I'm just

1468
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 2: saying it isn't common enough insecurity that it's you know,

1469
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: there's women that are like, I don't want my man

1470
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 2: to watch porn or something. There's it's common enough that

1471
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 2: it's a troupe because there are people that feel threatened

1472
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: by that, and that's a thing that those couples will

1473
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: have to talk about and find their lines and work

1474
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: through it whatever they gotta do.

1475
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: Right.

1476
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 2: So I think that's one version of this, But does

1477
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: this other version that's just I want to control you.

1478
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,719
Speaker 1: Right, Maybe they'll.

1479
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: Grow out of it, maybe they'll change, maybe they won't,

1480
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 2: But at this point it's I'm scared of what you

1481
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: do and how it looks for me, even if what

1482
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: you do is literally what you do, Key Key Palmer's

1483
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 2: image is what key Keey Palmer does. This surfer woman,

1484
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: this is what she does, and you're like, but what

1485
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 2: what I'm more?

1486
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: What's more important is me?

1487
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 4: What's more important? It's me? And it's hilarious. And people

1488
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 4: know this. But because a lot of times in relationships,

1489
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 4: people get so caught up in their own individuality, they

1490
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 4: don't look at the unit. Because you know, when you're

1491
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 4: in relationships, you are a unit. No matter how many

1492
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: people is in a relationship, it's still a unit. And

1493
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 4: so it's one of those things where this person was

1494
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 4: a person before they knew your ass existed, and they

1495
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 4: will continue to be a person long after you're gone

1496
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 4: or y'all are no longer together. People do not look

1497
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:40,480
Speaker 4: at people as an individual person with thoughts, feelings, emotions,

1498
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:45,759
Speaker 4: you know, hobbies and shit that they do outside of you.

1499
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 4: You are not the center of their world. And that's

1500
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 4: the thing. People want themselves to be the center of

1501
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 4: your world, but you are not always the center of

1502
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: their world. They're the center of their world and they

1503
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 4: don't even consider you, and so that doesn't make sense,

1504
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: you know. So it's one of those things where people

1505
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 4: don't consider these things and a lot of times not

1506
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 4: trying funny. When you're young, you're and like a lot

1507
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 4: of young people, you're very self centered. And so once

1508
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 4: you get older, you begin to look at.

1509
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: These things differently.

1510
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 4: Like you said, you have a lot of older people coming.

1511
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 4: People have just been through some shit. People to realize,

1512
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: oh that shit ain't that and pooringt that y'all can

1513
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 4: work that out or whatever like like, they've had enough

1514
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 4: relationships and enough experience in life to realize it is

1515
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 4: not the end.

1516
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: Of the world, right.

1517
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,879
Speaker 2: And so the other thing of just speaking on relationships

1518
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: in general too, I think when we've commodified love so

1519
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: fucking much, we've quadrupled down on just patriarchal thinking. Even

1520
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: when we have like shows that are supposed to be

1521
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: inclusive about romance, they still almost always going down the

1522
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:59,799
Speaker 2: same few type of storylines and power dynamics and heaterin

1523
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: no motivity. Even when you do bring on like uh,

1524
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: like you want to have a show that represents LGBTQ people,

1525
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 2: it's still a lot of head on normative monogamal manogaty

1526
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 2: type leading stuff. You know. So I think a lot

1527
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 2: of times our imaginations are limited, and so it just

1528
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: becomes about controlling somebody like a toy like Barbie and

1529
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 2: Ken or some shit.

1530
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: And you know, we have like thirty million.

1531
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: Fucking relationship shows, and I put relationship in questions in

1532
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: quotes that are like reality shows. But it's all like

1533
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 2: fall in love in three weeks, or just met this

1534
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: nigga yesterday.

1535
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: You know the TV show, Well they get married in

1536
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: ninety days. They better somebody getting kicked out.

1537
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 4: I see you.

1538
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Oh we kissing thirty people in a day and telling

1539
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: one of them got to go home, Like yeah, they're

1540
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: just it's ridiculous.

1541
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: But we treat it like it's real.

1542
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: We discuss it like it's real because we like these

1543
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: type of discussions, you know. But I think the main

1544
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: thing the fear is trying to avoid is being hurt. Right,

1545
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:09,799
Speaker 2: So you once again, I'm not saying this multiple times,

1546
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: and I'm probably just because I'm high, But it is

1547
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: the power and then the control and then the fear,

1548
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: and then the fear is of being hurt, and the

1549
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 2: fear of being hurt is because the only way to

1550
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: really have the highest highs of a relationship is to

1551
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: be vulnerable.

1552
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: It's the only real way.

1553
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: It's like Batman, It's like you know, the dark Knight

1554
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: rises when he's trying to jump out of the prison,

1555
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 2: and the thing that's weighing him down making the jump

1556
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: impossible is that he has the rope tied to him.

1557
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: He can only make the leap when he unties himself

1558
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: from the rope, thus therefore like putting full faith in himself,

1559
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 2: but also physically lifting the way the rope off and

1560
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: getting that extra little bit of inch so he can

1561
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: grip the other side and climb out right. That is

1562
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 2: what control is that rope, and it gives you the

1563
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 2: illusion that, well, I'm safe. I can't fall too far

1564
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: because I'm controlling this person. How they gonna have time

1565
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: to chieve if I won't even let them fucking put

1566
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 2: their pictures online, if I want to let them go

1567
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: to a concert unless they're dressed, you know, in the

1568
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: way that I find to be appropriate, that amount of

1569
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: control will keep me from being hurt. And the truth

1570
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: of the matter is that's an illusion because you can

1571
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: still be hurt. People end up a lot of times

1572
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: doing self fulfilling prophecy. You police the person you with

1573
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 2: so much that they're like, I might as well fucking

1574
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: go fuck somebody else.

1575
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 1: Like I might as well get the fuck out of it.

1576
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: This is miserable.

1577
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: This is not the relationship I thought I was getting into,

1578
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 2: And so you pushed me into like a place where

1579
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm either gonna.

1580
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: Act out or I don't want to be in.

1581
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to be controlled, right, I want to

1582
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: be valued and equaled and partnered and empowered and all

1583
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: that stuff. And I think it's also self fulfilling the

1584
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 2: other way. A lot of times you don't have to

1585
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: put a boundary on a person that wants you to

1586
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: be happy because you're making them happy.

1587
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1588
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 4: And also the thing is when you put people in

1589
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 4: the box and things like that, you never know what

1590
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 4: they can become. And they can actually outgrow your box

1591
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 4: and become something even greater than you imagined and become

1592
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 4: something that could actually benefit them and benefit you too

1593
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 4: and benefit the relationship. But because you so.

1594
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: You're so.

1595
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 4: Being such a person that you feel like you have

1596
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 4: to have control, your imagination limits the levels of the

1597
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: relationship and how deep the relationship can go. Yes, because

1598
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 4: how do we talk about relationships empower?

1599
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 2: We talk about them empower analogies and shit, you got

1600
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: to submit submission, you.

1601
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1602
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Like, that's not a sexy term to everybody. I know

1603
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 2: BDSM people think it like, but in general, people in

1604
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:12,120
Speaker 2: their lives.

1605
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 1: Whatn't the fuck is the last time you were happy

1606
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 1: about submitting anything?

1607
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't an application to a job or some shit.

1608
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 2: Even then, you weren't happy about submitting. You want the job,

1609
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 2: you right, you'd rather just get the job, right. The

1610
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: submitting is the worst part, right, So it's like submit

1611
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: to judgment, Like it's not.

1612
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Submitting is not empowering.

1613
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: For a lot of people, right, unless it's like a

1614
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: fetish type thing. Most people would like to be able

1615
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: to make choices.

1616
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for a lot of people even in that,

1617
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 4: it's a choice to submit.

1618
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's I think at its height of relationship

1619
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: and it doesn't have to be romantic, just a relationship

1620
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 2: is at its best when every day you're just choosing

1621
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 2: each other because this.

1622
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: Is what I want.

1623
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: I'm where I want, and when I wake up tomorrow,

1624
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: I wanted even more because this is making me happy

1625
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: and I like being happy and I like being with you,

1626
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,600
Speaker 2: and I like being sad with you, and I like

1627
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 2: being you know, whatever it.

1628
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 1: Is with you. I'm choosing you over and over and

1629
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: over a fucking again.

1630
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: That's why it's such a like commitment and such a Honestly,

1631
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 2: it's a very ridiculous thing that we believe in, to

1632
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 2: be honest, but especially those of us that that that

1633
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: like have been conditioned that you're gonna find your one

1634
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: person and it's gonna be like that. But it's also

1635
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: why people it feels so fucking good. People get up

1636
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: and try it again again. They find I'm gonna find

1637
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 2: a new person, get back on the fucking apps.

1638
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: I want to do it again.

1639
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Some people got six peep partners. They I'm trying to

1640
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: pick all six of you niggas every day. Like It's

1641
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 2: that feeling is what makes the euphoria part of love good.

1642
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 2: That's what makes the consoling part of love good, the

1643
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: affirmation part of love good. Is that I'm picking you

1644
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 2: when you're picking me, and that is the height of it.

1645
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: That is the what we aspire to.

1646
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: But not everyone reaches every day, but you aspire to

1647
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 2: that ship and you don't get to feel that with

1648
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 2: control control is I'm making you pick me controls. I'm

1649
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: rigging this playing field so you have you're left with me,

1650
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like like I'm the I'm

1651
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: the last toy in the box, bitch, were playing together,

1652
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, Like that's the feeling that I think people

1653
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 2: are giving, or they're they're being taught to give people

1654
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: and and it's and it's out of a fear of

1655
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,560
Speaker 2: being hurt. When I was in college, I've told the

1656
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 2: story before, but it was.

1657
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,639
Speaker 1: Like a spring break weekend.

1658
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe my freshman year or my

1659
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: sophomore year or something. But this guy, I knew he

1660
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: he was fucking so many women in the dorm. I

1661
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 2: was just like, Oh, that dude's player. Like I he's

1662
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: hollering at every chick. Now it turns out that he's

1663
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: a he's a college for when he was actually like

1664
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: bagging a lot of high school chicks, which I'm assuming

1665
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: was legal.

1666
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not getting it. I'm not accusing

1667
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: him of any criminal things.

1668
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like he was like eighteen and these girls,

1669
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,719
Speaker 2: let's say these girls are seventeen. But he was trying

1670
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: to be like that college freshman that's the man around

1671
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 2: the high school chicks whatever. I'm literally not, that's not

1672
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 2: the part I'm judging. But he did this so much.

1673
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: I just thought he was that dude. I was like, Okay,

1674
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: I guess he just had sex with a lot of girls,

1675
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 2: you know, and also some of them I'm sure were

1676
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: also college girls too. He just he had sex with

1677
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 2: a lot of chicks. That's all I knew. And we

1678
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,719
Speaker 2: weren't really friends or cool or anything.

1679
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: I just knew him.

1680
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 2: And he had a big, flashy red card that was

1681
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,799
Speaker 2: a sports car even though he was a college freshman,

1682
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: which I don't know how to fuck.

1683
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: He pay for that, Actually I do know. He couldn't

1684
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: pay for it.

1685
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 2: So we're on spring break and I'm staying at the

1686
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 2: school rather than going home this spring break, and me

1687
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 2: and him are like one of the only two in

1688
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 2: the like dorm. We had to like move our stuff

1689
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 2: into like a special dorm if we were going to

1690
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: stay blah blah blah. And so he comes and over

1691
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: to my dorm room and he's like, man, you know

1692
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: all you because I'm in there playing Dreamcast and he's like, uh,

1693
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: shout to Dreamcast and he's like, hey.

1694
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: Man, what you what? How what do you do? I said,

1695
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you see what I do.

1696
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 2: I play basketball every day and then I play video games.

1697
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 2: I do my fucking work, and I hang out with

1698
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 2: my girl, you know. And he was like, and I

1699
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 2: think this must have been freshman year because maybe you

1700
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 2: weren't there yet. And he was like, uh yeah, man,

1701
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 2: but like I don't never see you like trying to

1702
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 2: holler at no girls or nothing like that.

1703
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, I got a girl. She's

1704
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 1: just not here right now or whatever.

1705
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 2: But you know, it's like I'm cool. I'll see her

1706
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: whenever I drive home to Charlotte. And he was like,

1707
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: uh yeah, man, but like I got a girl, but

1708
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: like she's an A and T. And I'm like, fuck,

1709
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: you got a girl. All you do is just pound

1710
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 2: cheeks all day.

1711
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 4: It's just that's all you do.

1712
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 2: It's just just just did him make it like a cheat,

1713
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 2: just a factory, a pound cheese cakes factory.

1714
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: Okay?

1715
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 2: And so he was like, uh yeah, man, but you know,

1716
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: I got my girl. And I'm just saying, like I

1717
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 2: still be messing with girls, but you don't like I

1718
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: love I love my girl, you know. I was like, yeah,

1719
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,559
Speaker 2: because he said, how come you don't cheat or whatever

1720
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: it was because I love my girl.

1721
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I mean I love my girl too. I

1722
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so right, don't. I don't know what

1723
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: to tell you.

1724
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 2: And to me, to love somebody means I can't be

1725
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: fucking a bunch of girls that aren't them and keeping

1726
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,640
Speaker 2: that as a secret from them to me.

1727
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: But that's just me. Maybe I'm uptight. And so.

1728
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: He he tells me about how he was.

1729
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: Like.

1730
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 2: He was just like, man, I could never really do that,

1731
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: because he goes, what if she's cheating on you? And

1732
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: I said, I mean I would hope that she's not,

1733
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 2: but I can't control that.

1734
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 4: Yes, because Peppy, you sex me that too. I was like,

1735
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 4: I have no control over that, and I will deal

1736
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 4: with that when we get there.

1737
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I can't control.

1738
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 2: That, right, And it's not possible to control that, even

1739
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 2: if you think you could. But what I realized at

1740
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 2: that moment was that he was cheating because if he

1741
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,480
Speaker 2: sabotages his own relationship, at least, it's a self sabotage,

1742
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 2: which is a form of control. I controlled what happened

1743
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 2: because I made the choice to fuck it up. Also,

1744
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: if she is cheating, he thinks there'll be an emotional

1745
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 2: consolation prize of well, I was cheating the whole time too.

1746
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. I win. It is power. It is

1747
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: power still for me.

1748
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: And now in that case, he's not necessarily controlling her

1749
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: that I knew of. I mean, I don't know that

1750
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 2: probably like, but he's controlling his own actions that are

1751
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: sabotaging the relationship to some extent, that making him And

1752
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 2: it's all to assuage his anxiety of I don't want

1753
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: to look like a.

1754
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Fool when this doesn't work out.

1755
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: And if I've been cheating, I haven't been the food

1756
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: the whole time, because hey, at least I was getting mine,

1757
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, Oh she was cheating on me.

1758
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: Well ha ha ha, jokes on you me too. He

1759
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 1: didn't see it.

1760
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 2: As just a demerit or deduction to the value of

1761
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: the relationship no matter what. He only saw it as

1762
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: when it does fail, or if it does fail, at

1763
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 2: least I was always shitty and I never really put

1764
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:42,679
Speaker 2: in enough effort.

1765
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1766
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 4: I know everybody jokes on that song, everybody plays the food,

1767
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 4: but it happens to everybody, and for some people, once

1768
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,440
Speaker 4: they've been a food they make a promise to themselves

1769
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 4: literally at that moment, and it never happened again. And

1770
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 4: they do shit like that where they don't commit, they

1771
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 4: don't have any long term relationships. They're like, no, this

1772
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 4: right here will never happen again. And they just rolled

1773
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 4: through life like that. And when you meet people like that,

1774
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 4: you go, hey, dog, like, you got a lot of shit.

1775
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,559
Speaker 2: And he did tell me some story of because I

1776
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: asked him, like, why do you say that?

1777
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 1: You know, where is that coming from? Has she done things.

1778
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 2: That made He's like no, but you know, he just

1779
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: feels that way. And we eventually got down to him

1780
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 2: and this used to happen to me a lot. This

1781
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons I don't like a lot

1782
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 2: of discussions in general, because most people when they talk

1783
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: to me, they don't end up talking to me about

1784
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 2: some deep shit. But he ended up telling me like,

1785
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 2: he got cheated on when he was in high school

1786
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: by this girl and da da da dad.

1787
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:42,799
Speaker 1: And so he's using that as an excuse.

1788
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 2: Obviously, now it's not It's not as bad as you

1789
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,280
Speaker 2: like thirty eight year old niggas saying this shit because

1790
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 2: he was like eighteen at the time or some shit,

1791
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: So like high school for him was like two weeks ago.

1792
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Or whatever the fuck. But the point being, like he

1793
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: was saying, like.

1794
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: This thing fucked him up so bad that he'll never

1795
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 2: let it happen again. But I'm like, so then you're

1796
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 2: just gonna do it to this other innocent person first

1797
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 2: the pain that was inflicted on you possibly and all

1798
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: that stuff. And I don't do advice, so I didn't

1799
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: tell him what to do, honest to God. And I'm like,

1800
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 2: cause it's not really about me. He made his bad

1801
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 2: decision already, and eventually that shit's gonna either come out

1802
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 2: or not. But you know, he when he was not

1803
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 2: the first or the last person. Dude, I knew that

1804
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 2: cheated on they girl and wanted to talk to me

1805
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: about the ship for some reason, to know if there

1806
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 2: was like some secret that was gonna rub off from

1807
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 2: me that was gonna make them a faithful person.

1808
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1809
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Everybody different than you know, whatever, And so I was like,

1810
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: but that all reminds me of this kind of idea

1811
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: of what is Jonah Hill trying to avoid?

1812
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: What is that Currenus Jackson brother trying to avoid.

1813
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:07,240
Speaker 2: They're all trying to avoid this idea of being hurt. Yea,

1814
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:13,759
Speaker 2: and it looks like this, and it's it is pathetic,

1815
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: and it is whack, and it's terrible. It's and it's

1816
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 2: somewhat relatable. And I don't even care what gender you are.

1817
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 2: People have insecurities unless you're like perfect or lying, and

1818
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: you just had to work on yourself. And we all

1819
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 2: have triggers too, we all have like we're human, we

1820
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: have our own past and all these traumas and stuff.

1821
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 2: So I know that people can identify with the idea of.

1822
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 1: Being wrong but understanding like, yeah, that's.

1823
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 2: Wrong, but I felt I felt that way before, but

1824
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 2: that is wrong.

1825
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1826
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 2: It's like it's like how you should never go through

1827
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: your partner's phone, but somebody's out here has gone through

1828
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 2: a phone and then went right like got back in

1829
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: their right mind.

1830
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, I was fucking tripping.

1831
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 1: That was wrong. I should not just going through your

1832
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: fucking phone. What was I thinking?

1833
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 2: You know, people may have felt that before, and they

1834
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: may have been like, I didn't go through the phone,

1835
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 2: but I felt like going this motherfucker phone or whatever, Pete,

1836
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 2: like whatever examples you're talking about. I think that's a

1837
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:16,680
Speaker 2: big part of this thing is people feeling like the

1838
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 2: insecurities that match up with these dudes, the ones who

1839
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 2: are defending these dudes, That's why their insecurities match up.

1840
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 2: It's like, I too feel a way when my woman

1841
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: is dancing and looking good and it's.

1842
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 1: Not with me, you know what I mean. I can relate.

1843
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, people be liking my girl Instagram picked too much,

1844
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 2: you know, like it was that you could feel that

1845
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 2: vibe coming off of the like Jonah got a point,

1846
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 2: motherfuckers and you just you know, and of course there's

1847
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 2: just the random insult ass people that you know that

1848
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,919
Speaker 2: always end up on that side somehow, hahaha.

1849
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm always on the side of fucking the dudes being

1850
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: accused of being abusive. Just somehow, I'm always on that side.

1851
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just wanted to talk about that because

1852
01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 2: I feel like everybody's been talking about that on social

1853
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,919
Speaker 2: media and we had we had had a chance.

1854
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 6: Yet no, we hadn't had a chance, and something that

1855
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 6: I uh and and this is just my experience, something

1856
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 6: I realized about love and relationships and things like that,

1857
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 6: with the controlling and things like that.

1858
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people try to imitate and

1859
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 4: recreate the feelings of when they first were in love,

1860
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 4: and so they try to control those feelings to make

1861
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 4: it always appear like we're quote unquote have that first

1862
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 4: in love. When you are first in love, you get

1863
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,760
Speaker 4: like a euphoria is you know, chemical, is I can't

1864
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 4: keep my hands off of you, and all that type

1865
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 4: of stuff. But particularly if you're in a relationship with

1866
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 4: person or people or however, it is as time goes on,

1867
01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 4: you still love somebody, but it's just not as tense.

1868
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 4: And I think once you go through the feeling that

1869
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 4: that love isn't that intense, overpowering, oh my god type

1870
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 4: of feeling. A lot of people lose interests. A lot

1871
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,720
Speaker 4: of people think something's wrong. A lot of people think

1872
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 4: is dysfunction, but it's not. It's just we have been

1873
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 4: together for such a long time that now it's that

1874
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 4: the intense I love needs to go deep. And this

1875
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 4: is what people miss that point. They try to recreate

1876
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 4: that euphoria. And in my personal opinion, since we talk

1877
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 4: about relationship, is why people fight fucks, fuss fuck, fight

1878
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 4: fuss fuck because they consistently want to imitate that high

1879
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 4: that they get when they were first in love. That

1880
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 4: make up sex and all that stuff, starting fights so

1881
01:36:42,680 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 4: purpose and all those types of things. This is just

1882
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 4: my feeling on the outside looking in. But I realized

1883
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,600
Speaker 4: after a while, your loves get deeper. And when I

1884
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 4: mean deeper, it's a now I'm here with you when

1885
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 4: your mama died. Now I'm here with you when your

1886
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 4: brother died. Now I'm here with you when.

1887
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,879
Speaker 1: You sick like like like like I'm making.

1888
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 4: It okay, no problem. But you know, and and and

1889
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 4: and that's the deep thing. Or when you have financial

1890
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: troubles or whatever whatever the case may be.

1891
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not as sexy and hot and fun

1892
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 2: as high as high picture and all that stuff.

1893
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 4: Right, you guess what, that's the ship people don't post

1894
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,840
Speaker 4: on Instagram. That's the ship you can't you know, put

1895
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,080
Speaker 4: in one hundred and forty characters and ship like that.

1896
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: I think also to Instagram, social media, it's all content.

1897
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: Yes, So like a lot of this stuff is.

1898
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: Us looking at content and it making more content.

1899
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 1: So our takes on the stuff. Like I saw this

1900
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:37,640
Speaker 1: one trending.

1901
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Into this is light skinned Keisha talking to her boyfriend

1902
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,639
Speaker 2: and some type of that's her name.

1903
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:46,720
Speaker 1: She's a rapper, didn't make that up. And there's a.

1904
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 2: There's a podcast Mike, so you know it's gonna.

1905
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 4: Be some gend shit podcast Mike Alert.

1906
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: But it's they're talking about cheating. Go for what? Go

1907
01:37:58,840 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 1: for what?

1908
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 7: Let's talk about to put another you're not gonna leave you.

1909
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 4: You're not you're leaving.

1910
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: You're not leaving. You're stupid, You're crazy. I've been with

1911
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: you so long. Okay, try it.

1912
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,479
Speaker 4: Try we'll see.

1913
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: You're not leaving. You're crazy. You want to cheat on me,

1914
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: You're not leaving me.

1915
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 4: You want to cheat on me.

1916
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to cheat on you, but you're not

1917
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:23,680
Speaker 1: leaving me.

1918
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,040
Speaker 4: If I cheat on you, you're crazy. And the thing

1919
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 4: about it is.

1920
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 1: I don't spend too much money.

1921
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 4: I don't give it that show.

1922
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 7: That's your problem because guess what, I'm not even gonna

1923
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:31,719
Speaker 7: let me tell you something.

1924
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: You cheat.

1925
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 7: I'm not even finna be oh no, ride right. I'm

1926
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 7: gonna be so clay, I'm gonna be so plad about

1927
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 7: this ship. I swear like, I'm not even gonna be

1928
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 7: like mother.

1929
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 4: But I'm not doing none of that crazy b ship.

1930
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to live you know. That was another one

1931
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that went on Sunday.

1932
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,679
Speaker 4: Morning, definitely gender war type.

1933
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody had anything to do somethday morning. So you

1934
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 2: know something I told you.

1935
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 4: That's why sometimes you actually ship. I'll be like when

1936
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 4: it half a Sunday morning, you checked that, You be

1937
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 4: like yep. I was like, yeah, cause that nothing else

1938
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 4: to do side morning.

1939
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing on the Lord's Day, on Prime Day,

1940
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 2: the day we all the day we all should be

1941
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 2: respecting because he died for our sins.

1942
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 4: And he rose again, and he rose again.

1943
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:20,719
Speaker 1: He passed the matrix of leadership owns hallelujah. Yes he did,

1944
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes he did. He passed it on to the usurper

1945
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:30,960
Speaker 1: ultra magnus. But he was not the chosen one. There

1946
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: was hot Rod, but he couldn't He couldn't become hot

1947
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: He couldn't just do it as hot Rod. He had

1948
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 1: to grow up. He had to do what he had

1949
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 1: to mature like these men in these relationships. And what

1950
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 1: did he do.

1951
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: He unlocked the change of the matrix, and he saved

1952
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:52,679
Speaker 2: the universe from Unicron, so that we always know eternal life.

1953
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 2: Optimist is the reason for the season. Okay, but y'all

1954
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 2: turn it into a consumeris holiday you done forgot the

1955
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 2: lessons that we were supposed to learn.

1956
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: You on that trying to get new AirPods for fifty

1957
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: dollars off.

1958
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 2: But you're not worried about your eternal spark. I don't

1959
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: think so. Not in our wages, not in this house. Here,

1960
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:26,040
Speaker 2: we remember Optimus Prime until all I won. I'm sorry

1961
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 2: to get on that tangent, but that just that hit

1962
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: my spirit. Okay, I need I had to say something.

1963
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 2: I had to drop a word. I forget where I

1964
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 2: was at, but.

1965
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: We had to. We had to tell you.

1966
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: You know, come on, if hot Rod could get a

1967
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 2: second chance, can I get it?

1968
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 1: Can I get an amen? Can I get an inner?

1969
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: John Cub, somebody got an inner? Joqbe out there?

1970
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 2: If hot Rock anyj qubes in the l If hot

1971
01:40:55,560 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 2: Rod could get a second chance, anybody can, then anybody.

1972
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:00,960
Speaker 1: Could get a second chance. Don't talk.

1973
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Even Galla Tron could have got a second Galvatron was

1974
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 2: a second chance. But they don't put You don't hear

1975
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:10,000
Speaker 2: me though, y'all don't hear me. Let me go ahead

1976
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 2: and roll out, let me transform and roll out to

1977
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: the next section, because this is getting is getting a

1978
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 2: little too I'm preaching on today, get a little bit

1979
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 2: too much fun. Okay, we're talking about controls and and

1980
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 2: and relationships. I would hit this the great, the great

1981
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 2: sparkling this guy hit me. Okay, I'm about to take

1982
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 2: out a Sabatron. I thought I was about to take

1983
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:33,439
Speaker 2: y'all to Savatron today.

1984
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: Boy, Okay, don't get me, don't get me the talking Okay,

1985
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: all right, but yeah, my point being, man, uh all

1986
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: these niggas just need a little bit of therapy. And

1987
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I'm not.

1988
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 2: And this is not to say that these people couldn't

1989
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 2: be abusive. This is not I don't know, it's my point.

1990
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 2: Same thing happened when y'all said Cardi be getting jeted

1991
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 2: on was emotional abuse and then celebrated her cheating off

1992
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 2: off set. Possibly it like it's a lot of picking

1993
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 2: slides going on.

1994
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: It's a lot of jumping and flopping and shit happening

1995
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: right now, And that don't really make a lot of

1996
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 1: sense necessarily. It's not like unless you just look at

1997
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: it as like I'm just supporting the women, I'm just

1998
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 1: supporting the men. But I think at the core.

1999
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 2: The thing that we don't talk about is the insecurity,

2000
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 2: is the fear that is relatable. How you cope with

2001
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 2: that fear, how you live with the vulnerability. That's where

2002
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 2: the happiness is.

2003
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: That's what the real work is.

2004
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:32,719
Speaker 2: There's no amount of rules you can put on another

2005
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: person that's gonna truly make you feel like you can

2006
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 2: trust them, because when you measure somebody's value by how

2007
01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: well they follow your instructions, they're no longer free.

2008
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: Nope, pod you know what I mean?

2009
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 2: Like when when that is the worth of a person

2010
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: that's no longer free, when it's all about control, they're

2011
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 2: no longer free?

2012
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: And who the fuck din you get with them?

2013
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 2: Because you like the way free look, you know what

2014
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the way it looked on them.

2015
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:06,400
Speaker 1: Ain't that what you liked? You know? It's I don't know, man.

2016
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 2: You gotta let people beat themselves and at your best

2017
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 2: hopefully elevate them to where they want to go as

2018
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:15,640
Speaker 2: themselves and see new heights together. I just I don't know, man.

2019
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 2: I know I'm a hippie, but I believe in that

2020
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: kind of love. I think that's the most empowering thing.

2021
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not even like I said, it's not just romantic,

2022
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 2: I mean just even as a friend, dog like nothing

2023
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying couldn't also be applied to a friendship, like

2024
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,559
Speaker 2: this is a long ram l episode. But you know

2025
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,799
Speaker 2: another thing I saw that got on my motherfucking nerves.

2026
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 2: I saw somebody say, like, normalize when someone is talking

2027
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,479
Speaker 2: to you about a situation, the experience that you don't

2028
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 2: then reference a similar situation that you went through, And

2029
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 2: I said, normalize. Never a fuck calling me, nigga. This

2030
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 2: ain't no motherfucking monologue, bitch.

2031
01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: We friends and it goes for you too.

2032
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,720
Speaker 2: If anything, I hope you do have something new. I

2033
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:01,599
Speaker 2: hope I'm not complaining to you and you didn't.

2034
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,160
Speaker 1: You ain't. I'm just sounding crazy to you, like I

2035
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,839
Speaker 1: don't know what this nigga talking about. I've never experienced

2036
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: this in my life, but yeah, good luck with that, buddy.

2037
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I hope you got it off your chest.

2038
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm not calling you to do a one way screed.

2039
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 2: This isn't a therapy session.

2040
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to call you.

2041
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 4: Some people treat friendship only and it's not transactional. You don't.

2042
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 4: And I had to learn that, Like one thing I

2043
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,639
Speaker 4: had to learn and one reason why I'm not gonna

2044
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 4: lie my standards for friendship is extremely, extremely high because

2045
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 4: there are things that when they were in a friendship

2046
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 4: that I will and will not put up with. If

2047
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:42,559
Speaker 4: I have a friend, we need to be able to

2048
01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 4: call each other and to be able to talk to

2049
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 4: each other, go back and forth with each other, and

2050
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 4: be able to be ourselves around each other and realize

2051
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 4: that when you call me, it's not a monologue. And

2052
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 4: I should be able to talk to you and say

2053
01:44:57,320 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 4: things to you that you may not even agree with.

2054
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 4: But it's not the quote unquote end of the relation

2055
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 4: you the friendship.

2056
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 2: When you say that, you sound so transactional, right.

2057
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 1: You sound like you're keeping a tally somewhere.

2058
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying you can't keep a tally, But

2059
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 2: let me tell you something.

2060
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: If you call my phone and you keeping a tally,

2061
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: we're not friends. And it's not me that needs to

2062
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 1: accept that, it's you because I don't do that. You

2063
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying.

2064
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,519
Speaker 2: If my homie, if we talk once a year, we

2065
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 2: talk once a day, whatever the fuck it is, the

2066
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 2: ledger is always zero.

2067
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: Nobody owe nobody shit.

2068
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I have a girlfriend and we have been friends

2069
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 4: over twenty something years. I've known her since I've been

2070
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:47,599
Speaker 4: in my twenties and I may sometimes talk to her

2071
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,919
Speaker 4: maybe once or twice a year. I seen her earlier,

2072
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 4: this was earlier this year, maybe last year. I think

2073
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 4: this year, and that this was the first time I

2074
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:05,839
Speaker 4: had seen her and about possibly ten years, like physically

2075
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 4: seen her. But every time we talk it's like we

2076
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 4: never left. Anytime we text, it's like we never left.

2077
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: Like like, I, if you need somebody to be up

2078
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 4: your ass all the time talking to you, I'm not

2079
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 4: that type of friend.

2080
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 2: And I'm and like, maybe there's some extreme of this

2081
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 2: where people have experienced that, but listen to what the

2082
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 2: fuck I said I didn't say. The person was like,

2083
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, hey, don't try to make say something that's

2084
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 2: worse than what I went through or whatever.

2085
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: They were basically like, shut the fuck up when I'm talking.

2086
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 2: Don't say anything from your personal experience back to me.

2087
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: What the fuck is that?

2088
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 4: That's not a friendship.

2089
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Get a diary, go to get a podcast, get a

2090
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,799
Speaker 2: one sided podcast with no guests and just you those

2091
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 2: that's not what you What the fuck do it matter

2092
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 2: that I'm on the phone being the one that you

2093
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 2: just talking endlessly to. And I just got to sit

2094
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 2: there and be like, well, I better not say if

2095
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 2: you know, I lost my job before too, and I

2096
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 2: can I understand how you go what you're going through,

2097
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 2: and it's been like that, I better not say that,

2098
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: because god know, that's the worst fucking thing you can

2099
01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 2: say to this person. That is so fucking weird to me,

2100
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: and it makes to me I feel like that's the

2101
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 2: person that's the asshole, you.

2102
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 4: Know what I mean. They don't, they don't see it

2103
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: like that, but it is because my thing is as

2104
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 4: a friend, I'm considerate of life. People have kids, people

2105
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 4: have things that do, people have careers, people, they do

2106
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 4: all types of things. And it's okay if I'm not

2107
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 4: quote unquote the top priority. But you know what, that's

2108
01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 4: not going to change our friendship and our love for

2109
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 4: each other. But like you said, because so many people

2110
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 4: keeps tallies, so many people, you didn't call me, you

2111
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 4: didn't check on me. It's me, me, me, me, me,

2112
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 4: me me.

2113
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:51,160
Speaker 1: You know.

2114
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:55,440
Speaker 4: And also I think for me, you know, your childhood

2115
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 4: impacts your adulthood all that, and as a kid, my

2116
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 4: a lot of our relatives treated me like that, and

2117
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 4: so for me, that's a flat fucking turn off, Like well.

2118
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 2: You know what else though, we've done twenty seven hundred

2119
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,679
Speaker 2: episodes in front of the paywall, probably two thousand behind

2120
01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: the paywall, right, god knows how many guests appearances, we've

2121
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,600
Speaker 2: been on other podcasts, all this stuff, right, you know,

2122
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 2: we've never once been on this show and been like,

2123
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 2: now normalize I say something and then you don't say shit,

2124
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, car I was just telling that story because

2125
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 2: I felt away. I didn't want you to talk about

2126
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 2: how you feel. That's that's crazy. Now, why you making

2127
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:41,040
Speaker 2: it about you? That's like and once again, that's a friendship,

2128
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 2: and it's going back to full circle what I was saying.

2129
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,160
Speaker 1: That's a power thing. That's control.

2130
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:53,920
Speaker 2: That's not that's not loving free, that's not promoting someone's freedom,

2131
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: witch or love.

2132
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: That's not being their safety net.

2133
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 2: Is Hey, this is your bad report card because you

2134
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 2: had something to say when I told you what I

2135
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 2: was experiencing.

2136
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: Why do we.

2137
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Need that level of control? You know, you have to

2138
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 2: embrace the freedom. It's like there're stuff that there're stuff

2139
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 2: in every relationship where you're tolerating someone because they're because

2140
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 2: they're not you. They're making choices that are not your choices.

2141
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 1: All the time.

2142
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 2: It could be something as little as you're going to

2143
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 2: go park and there's a parking space, and you see

2144
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 2: the parking space right down your left. Okay, Siri done

2145
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: told you to park over there. The lights are shining,

2146
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 2: You're looking at the space.

2147
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,759
Speaker 1: You turn your signalong to make a left into the space,

2148
01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:59,639
Speaker 1: and then the person next to you could.

2149
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Point and go that goes a parking space. He a EGO, wait,

2150
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: there's a parking That's what I'm doing. I'm parking in

2151
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 2: the parking space. You saw me make all the parking

2152
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 2: actions that would be that I was living to parking

2153
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 2: in not just any space, but that's particular space that

2154
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: we both see. We both wear glasses, we both we

2155
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 2: both see the space with all eight of our eyes

2156
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: right now.

2157
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: All eight of them. We know we're going here to eat.

2158
01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 2: Why why would I park further away when I could

2159
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: park next to the door We both want to take

2160
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 2: our us is in their easel sushi. But something as

2161
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,719
Speaker 2: little as that, right, you know, could just be about

2162
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:43,799
Speaker 2: controlling someone.

2163
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 1: Yes, and I know.

2164
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 4: It's not sound silly. Something something as uh, you talk

2165
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 4: about your spouse, something as little as I'm sure, and

2166
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 4: so sometimes ship is high you know what I do.

2167
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 4: I get my ass, I get something to get it down.

2168
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 4: I can't reach it. I'm five foot too. You hide

2169
01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 4: in me. But what I don't do is make a

2170
01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 4: big ass scene about it. That's why I gotta step

2171
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 4: it at. It's like they get it itself.

2172
01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 2: Right, And that's why I bought that, because it's about

2173
01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 2: It's about elevating the person and wanting them to be free,

2174
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 2: free enough to point at that parking space that you

2175
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 2: both see and act like you stupid, like you like

2176
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 2: you somehow went parkingsplace, specifically parking space blind, like you

2177
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 2: can see everything else to get to the restaurant, but

2178
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:32,920
Speaker 2: you can't see this big ass into the parking space.

2179
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 1: And you just need a little help.

2180
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 2: If they could just control you just a little bit

2181
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 2: and say, right there, robot, okay, just do what I

2182
01:51:42,040 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 2: want just a little bit, and then when you make

2183
01:51:44,240 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 2: a joke like uh dug, I see the parking space,

2184
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 2: they might come back two in the morning while you're

2185
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 2: playing video games, come out the bedroom and go, did

2186
01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: I did I get on your nerves while I ask

2187
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 2: you about the parking space? The process that shit, And

2188
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:03,920
Speaker 2: of course they got on your nerves and asked about

2189
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 2: the parking space, but not in a key key Palmer's

2190
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 2: husband way, in a ha ha ha, that was funny way.

2191
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,600
Speaker 2: And then you say, no, you didn't get on my

2192
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 2: nerves because you have to lie because they're feeling vulnerable.

2193
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,240
Speaker 2: So you say, no, you didn't get on my nerves

2194
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,080
Speaker 2: at all about that parking space. It's totally fine, but

2195
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 2: you're telling the truth. We say it was funny to me.

2196
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 2: It was hilarious. You know, it didn't everyone's okay. I said,

2197
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 2: are you okay? You know, baby, that's hypothetically and this situation.

2198
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 1: You say, are you okay?

2199
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 2: Because I want you to know I love you and

2200
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 2: I choose you every day and it's just a fucking

2201
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 2: parking space. And I had already forgotten about it knowing

2202
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 2: it really didn't care other than just it was very funny.

2203
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was stuck here.

2204
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: And the thing about people, you get stuck in your

2205
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 4: own head, and it's one of those things. Because we talked,

2206
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna talk to

2207
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 4: him about it, and I know that death because.

2208
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 2: She didn't she didn't quote tweet me on Twitter and

2209
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,960
Speaker 2: say it's a parking space right over that dum mean

2210
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: you missed it.

2211
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 1: She didn't say that. Okay, it's private. She came out

2212
01:53:08,680 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: of the bedroom in the middle of the night or

2213
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: playing Guards of the Galaxy. She said, are you were

2214
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: you really upset about the parking space?

2215
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 2: And I said, of course not, because that would have

2216
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 2: made me a fucking psychopath. By the way, if it

2217
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 2: was two in the morning, I was brewding over a

2218
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 2: parking space. But the point being she needed to feel

2219
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 2: like that was okay at that moment, and I said,

2220
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 2: it is okay, it's fun.

2221
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the parking space. Please go back to bed, baby,

2222
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 1: it's not a This is not a big deal. No

2223
01:53:38,920 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: one's mad at you.

2224
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 2: And you know, the people have trauma from childhood and

2225
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: stuff they got them to do with you. But their

2226
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 2: insecurities are their insecurities, and that is valid, even if

2227
01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,879
Speaker 2: it is a man's insecurity. Sometimes, when you love somebody

2228
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 2: and it's worth it and they've made you happier certain way,

2229
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 2: maybe you might take.

2230
01:53:58,120 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Some actions to address their insecurities.

2231
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 2: And and and people on the outside don't really need

2232
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 2: to be privy to that situation because they see it

2233
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: as a power struggle and they think you just gave

2234
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 2: up some power and they think that you know, but

2235
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 2: but if sometimes it is. You know, there's people like

2236
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 2: they text when they get to work, but they know

2237
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:16,679
Speaker 2: they don't text when they get to work.

2238
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: Just anybody.

2239
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 2: But okay, that's my fucking words about my safety. And

2240
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,439
Speaker 2: I love them, and it takes one second to make

2241
01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 2: them not feel concerned for my safety and ready to

2242
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: hit home.

2243
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: Right.

2244
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 2: But if I was single, I wouldn't nobody know I

2245
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 2: was at work. They know I was at work when

2246
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 2: I tweeted funny things about my coworkers.

2247
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be checking every morning. Right.

2248
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 2: But we might do something little like that because we

2249
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 2: love somebody. We want their insecurities to be it because

2250
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 2: it is a short, quick thing to put some solve

2251
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 2: on that. Let's do that and hold on one second

2252
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:53,760
Speaker 2: and to help with that was insecurities. You might want

2253
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: to make them feel secure again because they've shown you

2254
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 2: what they love empty parking spaces.

2255
01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: They love that shit.

2256
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: They love it so much. They want to make sure

2257
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 2: you see every one of them.

2258
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 1: When even though they make you drive, they make you

2259
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 1: drive the whole way of driving. Maybe when they're falling,

2260
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 1: maybe when they fell asleep on the couch PATRIARCHI they

2261
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: fell asleep on the couch again, and you gotta come

2262
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 1: get them.

2263
01:55:21,480 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 2: The say, hey, you fell asleep on couch, watch TV,

2264
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Come on, get to bed. Maybe they sleepy as hell

2265
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 2: and they not paying no attention and helping them walk

2266
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 2: to the bedroom and you say, hey, hey, stop stop,

2267
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 2: I know you're sleeping, but I gotta show you something

2268
01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 2: it's important.

2269
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,839
Speaker 1: They say, hey, what's what's so important?

2270
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:42,120
Speaker 2: It's this late at night and I just want to

2271
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 2: go back to sleep, And say, no, come in, I

2272
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 2: gotta show you something. You take them to the bathroom

2273
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 2: and you open up the windows and look out the

2274
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 2: blinds and you point in the parking line.

2275
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: You go, hey, there's a parking space. They you both

2276
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 1: just laugh real hard at three in the morning and

2277
01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:06,120
Speaker 1: wake up your neighbors. Sometimes the relationship is is that's

2278
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 1: what it is.

2279
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 4: Is not always yeah, that's exactly what it is. And

2280
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 4: I'm not And people think this might sound like it's

2281
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 4: a small thing for me. I like Roger waking me

2282
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 4: up off the chair because one thing about him being

2283
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 4: in New York be itch. Sometimes I slipped it. I

2284
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 4: a'll not know he got mad black, you know him

2285
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 4: up he waked my ass up, and like, you know what,

2286
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 4: it's time to go to bad But guess what if

2287
01:56:33,400 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 4: you ain't got that person just up half of the

2288
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 4: night and be like, well, I'm going to bed. I'm

2289
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,280
Speaker 4: not gonna leave you in there on the couch. Guess

2290
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,480
Speaker 4: what You're gonna wake up tomorrow morning right there on

2291
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 4: that damn couch.

2292
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying.

2293
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,040
Speaker 4: And I like him waking you up.

2294
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 2: But you know some people will be mad about waking

2295
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:51,400
Speaker 2: you up, Like I gotta go wake.

2296
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 1: You up every night. Some people will be mad.

2297
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:59,160
Speaker 2: But you know, some love sometimes is that thing of

2298
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 2: like if it'll if it's easier for you, then I'll

2299
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: make it happen and I'll come get you off the couch.

2300
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to sleep in here by yourself or whatever.

2301
01:57:06,520 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: And that's the thing you make that the Internet.

2302
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:11,920
Speaker 2: You could take something that small and the Internet will

2303
01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:14,560
Speaker 2: be fighting about it based on which gender did which

2304
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 2: for who, because that everything to them is a game

2305
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 2: that you gotta win. It's like, oh, so you gotta

2306
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: get up out of your sleeping get this.

2307
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: Person that come down. Why they don't just get into

2308
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 1: bed every night?

2309
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 2: You know you gotta do that shit as opposed to

2310
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 2: being like, well, y'all are probably you have some version

2311
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 2: of this in your relationship and you just the difference

2312
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: is you don't share it, and that's you know. And

2313
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 2: I think the insecurities of people being put on display

2314
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,919
Speaker 2: is it can be educational, but mostly it's divisive.

2315
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Mostly it's just people fighted for entertainment.

2316
01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:49,360
Speaker 2: But I think if you're listening to this and you

2317
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 2: can relate, I would suggest that you address your insecurities,

2318
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 2: but you also in dress internally your relationship.

2319
01:57:56,080 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: What what do you want to ease? What are you

2320
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: accepting from another person? You know, if you need me.

2321
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 2: To text you every day when I get home, Like,

2322
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,160
Speaker 2: if that's a deal breaker thing for me, then it's

2323
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 2: a deal breaker. But there's a lot of us texting

2324
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 2: somebody when we get home because it's just like, all right,

2325
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 2: if that make your life better, that just make your

2326
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,760
Speaker 2: life better, and that's fine. I don't want to win.

2327
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to fight on the principle of it.

2328
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me. It's a small thing and

2329
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 2: it makes you happy.

2330
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:31,920
Speaker 4: Yes, And also other people's problems and insecurities try to

2331
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 4: affect you. Because I remember at my old job, I

2332
01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 4: even had a co work. They be like, you text

2333
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 4: your husband every day when you get here, that like

2334
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 4: something's wrong with it. I was like yes, And because

2335
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 4: they said it like if someone's wrong with it, I

2336
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 4: say yes, I say, because you know what, I'm getting

2337
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 4: a car wreck within the ten minutes and fifteen minutes

2338
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 4: I'm up the road and if they don't hear from me,

2339
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 4: that folks gonna come looking for me.

2340
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2341
01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,520
Speaker 2: And it could be the trauma too, of like having

2342
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 2: an opposite effect where they had someone that was trying

2343
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 2: to control them, agree, someone's trying to track them, or

2344
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 2: somebody thought they were cheating or something, so like their

2345
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,880
Speaker 2: traumas informed their view of that thing.

2346
01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 1: And once again it's the dude asking me why.

2347
01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 2: Don't cheat or whatever, where it's just like, oh, you,

2348
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 2: this is a coping mechanism you have because of the

2349
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 2: fear of being made to be a fool. But like

2350
01:59:19,600 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 2: I said, I told them at that time, I said,

2351
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:22,520
Speaker 2: I have no defense.

2352
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 1: I would just be a fool, right, And I said,

2353
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the worst thing for her is that she would have

2354
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 1: lost the person that truly wanted the.

2355
01:59:32,240 --> 01:59:35,840
Speaker 2: Best for her and was supportive and all that shit.

2356
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:38,280
Speaker 2: But that would have been her choice, and I don't

2357
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:41,520
Speaker 2: get to control that, and I can't be protected from that.

2358
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 2: If I'm four feet down, if I'm all the way in,

2359
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 2: then I have to be all the way in, and

2360
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: all the way in means sometimes you look bad. And

2361
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,840
Speaker 2: I think so much of what we have now, especially

2362
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 2: people just don't want to look bad. That's why you

2363
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:59,280
Speaker 2: always see shit like if someone gets cheated on the

2364
01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,720
Speaker 2: idea that they would cheat back, that's a I want

2365
02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 2: the public to see me win. That's that's not a

2366
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 2: that isn't no way actually about peace or happiness or

2367
02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 2: helping or healing.

2368
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 1: It's not about that at all.

2369
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 2: It's about a public scoreboard, and people live for that

2370
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 2: public scoreboard, and you end up with these situations like.

2371
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:23,840
Speaker 1: I was, I'm I don't know these people.

2372
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 2: But it's a little interesting to see how Kekey's playing it,

2373
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 2: because if they're truly gonna like not be together anymore

2374
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:35,120
Speaker 2: because partially because the public that supports her is egging

2375
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:37,560
Speaker 2: this on, it'll be interesting to see how much of

2376
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 2: that was really like internally, like just her by herself

2377
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 2: being like I gotta drop this guy. This is another

2378
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:46,160
Speaker 2: thing and a slate of things, or how much was

2379
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:48,040
Speaker 2: just like, oh, it looks bad for me to be

2380
02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 2: on this with this guy on the internet. Because I

2381
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 2: know there's in other celebrities that had men that were

2382
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 2: problematic and they either dated them secretly for a while,

2383
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:02,080
Speaker 2: or they would date them like after or they would

2384
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:04,160
Speaker 2: have to like break up to keep the public off

2385
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 2: their ass.

2386
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 1: And it's always interesting to see what happens with that.

2387
02:01:07,200 --> 02:01:11,680
Speaker 4: It is, and you know, it's one of those things

2388
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 4: to where, like you say, when you look at it,

2389
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 4: everybody in a relationship, regardless of how many people in

2390
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 4: a relationship, do some form of compromising, they do some

2391
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,680
Speaker 4: form over looking like a fool, and it doesn't have

2392
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 4: to be to the to the to the extent of cheating.

2393
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:28,720
Speaker 4: But there are things that you do this corny. There

2394
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 4: are things that you do not trye fund it's not

2395
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 4: politically correct. There are things that you do that that

2396
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 4: that falls into particularly straight misogyny and patriarchy and shit

2397
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 4: like that, because it's it might be small, but there

2398
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 4: are things that I do that I just like Roger

2399
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 4: doing for me, Like I like Rogick opening up the

2400
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 4: door for me, like that is one of my things.

2401
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 4: I walk up to the door and now I'll stop

2402
02:01:49,000 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 4: in here, open up door. He don't have to do that.

2403
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 4: It's just one thing that I personally like for and

2404
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:57,920
Speaker 4: I enjoy him doing that, like Roger driving for me.

2405
02:01:58,000 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 2: But I just like that every once in a while,

2406
02:01:59,880 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 2: like I'll see because there's other people that value other things.

2407
02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 2: There's women that are like, I could get the door myself.

2408
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:07,960
Speaker 2: There's women that are like, I'll drive myself. I want

2409
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 2: the freedom to pick and be the one that makes

2410
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:14,320
Speaker 2: the choices while I'm driving. It's just they're different setups

2411
02:02:14,320 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 2: and the people they get with and the decisions they

2412
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 2: make if you get with anybody whatever, But like that

2413
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 2: that's for them, and I think that's what's missing from

2414
02:02:22,240 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 2: the whole conversation is like, look, they could work this

2415
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 2: out and it could just be a mistake he made

2416
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:29,120
Speaker 2: at twenty eight and that's the father of her kid

2417
02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 2: and they whatever, everything goeships, everything else could have been

2418
02:02:34,120 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 2: fine until this moment and they just having a very

2419
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 2: public dumb moment.

2420
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 1: Also, like low key Kiki could kind of be on

2421
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:44,560
Speaker 1: some of the same like dumb stuff just because I

2422
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 1: remember when y'all people.

2423
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,080
Speaker 2: Used to drag her all the time because she would

2424
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 2: say something dumb on Twitter, and it's just she got

2425
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 2: either better prs, she learned to stop tweeting that kind

2426
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 2: of shit because now everybody loves her, but they mostly

2427
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 2: love her symbolically.

2428
02:02:58,360 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 1: You know.

2429
02:02:58,640 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 2: It's a lot of like we go up for her,

2430
02:03:00,640 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 2: not not like, oh this brilliant points she made this morning.

2431
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,440
Speaker 2: It's a lot more just like, man, we just like her.

2432
02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:12,720
Speaker 2: So you got that kind of stuff too, where these

2433
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 2: people could be together, these people could work it out,

2434
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,640
Speaker 2: these people could break up, these I don't know, you know,

2435
02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:19,320
Speaker 2: these people could be fine, you know. And that Jonah

2436
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: Hill thing especially, Yeah, it is weird that woman, because

2437
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,720
Speaker 2: that's the other thing I would say with.

2438
02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:29,400
Speaker 1: The Jonah Hill thing, the woman who was his ex,

2439
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 1: there's not necessarily clean hands there.

2440
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 2: But because people want to make everything black and white,

2441
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 2: they've been arguing as if you if you were to say, like, yo,

2442
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 2: it's kind of weird she did this now, and it's

2443
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,400
Speaker 2: especially weird that she's made it so that if he

2444
02:03:45,440 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 2: addresses it in public, she's gonna act like he's intimidating

2445
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:53,400
Speaker 2: or doing something to him. This is weird, right, And

2446
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:55,600
Speaker 2: if you say that, people are like, so you're trying

2447
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 2: to say it's okay, to abuse people and shit. So

2448
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 2: a lot of this shit is weird. People are reacting

2449
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:06,040
Speaker 2: in the interest of parties that aren't exactly unbiased, and

2450
02:04:06,160 --> 02:04:08,560
Speaker 2: people are cherry picking stuff like a Facebook mean that's

2451
02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 2: triggering now.

2452
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: Based on their histories.

2453
02:04:11,640 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 2: But we got to get out of here, guys. We

2454
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 2: got some parking spaces we gotta go look at.

2455
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 1: I heard of some empty parking spaces at Walmart that

2456
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: Aaron is dying to see.

2457
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:21,400
Speaker 4: I'm dying to pour them out to you.

2458
02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:24,840
Speaker 1: She can't, you know, she gotta let me know because

2459
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 1: you know how it is.

2460
02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I got some plates I'm dying to put

2461
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 4: out of order and put them too low, so Roger

2462
02:04:31,840 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 4: has to turn around and put them back up high. Well,

2463
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:34,839
Speaker 4: I can't reach you beginning.

2464
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 1: I never complained about this. I just do them, guys.

2465
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 2: I just do it, don't I don't even know where

2466
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 2: that came from. That's I'll put the place wherever you

2467
02:04:42,560 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 2: want to put them.

2468
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 4: But you no, no, because because you like, if it's certain,

2469
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 4: I'll be trying to help. So I just.

2470
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:49,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, yeah, leave them on account. I'll put

2471
02:04:49,400 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 1: them up there for you.

2472
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 4: Hey, rogerick tell me that.

2473
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 1: But I'm like you think about this.

2474
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you do the dishes and you can't

2475
02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 2: reach the higher part of the cabinet, you can just

2476
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 2: leave the stuff on the counter where you can reach, yes,

2477
02:05:04,040 --> 02:05:05,600
Speaker 2: And I'll just put them in the cabinet in the

2478
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,120
Speaker 2: right place when I get tied, which is almost always immediately,

2479
02:05:09,160 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 2: by the way, it's never.

2480
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Just sitting out different days.

2481
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:16,840
Speaker 2: And instead, regardless of me saying this a million times,

2482
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 2: Karen will put the stuff in the cabinet in the

2483
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 2: wrong place, which is even worse than leaving it on

2484
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:27,600
Speaker 2: the counter, because if it's in the wrong place, I

2485
02:05:27,680 --> 02:05:29,280
Speaker 2: now have to move it from the wrong place to

2486
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 2: put it to the right place, as opposed to just

2487
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 2: having put it one time, moving it one time.

2488
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 1: Straight to the right place every time. And I don't

2489
02:05:38,080 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 1: know where that trauma comes from. I don't know, you know, but.

2490
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 4: I figure that it's coming from so well, I guarantee

2491
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:45,440
Speaker 4: you something with my mama.

2492
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:50,360
Speaker 2: But what doesn't happen is I don't quote tweet her and.

2493
02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 1: Be like you a wife you because it's not about

2494
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: controlling her and how it's not how I look. It's

2495
02:05:59,840 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 1: not about how I look controlling her that puts the

2496
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 1: value in the situation, it's okay to It's just it'll

2497
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,640
Speaker 1: be all right. It's just between us, an internal battle

2498
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 1: that will go on to the end of time. I

2499
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:16,880
Speaker 1: still doing that shit. Why not leave the plate on

2500
02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 1: the counter so that we don't have to move it twice?

2501
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 1: And it is.

2502
02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,680
Speaker 2: Everything looks nice and neat in the right places all

2503
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:25,040
Speaker 2: the time, and when we go to get something, that's

2504
02:06:25,120 --> 02:06:27,880
Speaker 2: always where it's supposed to be, as opposed to be

2505
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 2: in different random places in the house that's not supposed

2506
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:32,520
Speaker 2: to be because those are the only places I.

2507
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:33,600
Speaker 1: Know that you can reach.

2508
02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 2: And you think it would really be helpful if you

2509
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:37,680
Speaker 2: don't do the cooking around here.

2510
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 1: So if I'm doing all the.

2511
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:42,040
Speaker 2: Cooking, it would behoove me to have things in the

2512
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,720
Speaker 2: places I want them to be, so that when I

2513
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:47,040
Speaker 2: need a bowl to stir something, it's in the place

2514
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:48,000
Speaker 2: where bulls are.

2515
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 1: When I need to think the whisks in the place

2516
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:53,400
Speaker 1: where the whisk are. It just seems like to me

2517
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 1: more helpful. I'm making you're making your job harder.

2518
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:02,040
Speaker 2: But that's insecure that came from somewhere, and I'm just

2519
02:07:02,120 --> 02:07:05,160
Speaker 2: the person that loves you enough to be like that's fine.

2520
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: We'll just figure it out every time, you know, So

2521
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 1: I choose you every day.

2522
02:07:09,400 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 4: Say if I choose you every day?

2523
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,040
Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to y'all later.

2524
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,840
Speaker 2: Until then, I love you, why, but only on the

2525
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 2: condition that you stop posting all them thirst pictures.

2526
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,280
Speaker 1: Okay, Karen, I love you, but just so much. All right,

2527
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:22,960
Speaker 1: that's enough.