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This is Bloomberg Daybreak 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 1: for Thursday, April twentieth. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: Coming up today, House Republicans unveil their plan for the 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: debt ceiling. 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: The legal fight over abortion goes into overtime at the 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: Tesla's shares fall as Elon Musk signals more price cuts ahead. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: And we get another. 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Read on the banking industry as a slew of regional 10 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: lenders report earnings. 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: The wild car chase in Midtown Manhattan has left an 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: officer injured, plus an elderly white man accused of shooting 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: of black teen was in a Kansas City court. I'm 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: Michael bar Moore Ahead, I'm. 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: John staf Sharon's Wards. 16 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 4: The Mets beat the Dodgers despite Max Scherzer's ejection. Yankees 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 4: a walk off went on the Angels. The Islanders lost 18 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: again at Carolina. 19 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: news you need to sturn your day in just one 21 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 22 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 5: Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Amy Morris. Here. 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: Are the stories we're following today. 25 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: We begin with an offer to address the national debt. 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: House Speaker Kevin McCarthy is proposing a bill that would 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: add one and a half trillion dollars to the debt ceiling, 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: enough to avert a default until March of next year. 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: The bill would also cut spending by about one hundred 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: and thirty billion dollars, and McCarthy says that's not all. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 6: Our bill would actually clawback billions and dollars of unspent 32 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 6: COVID money that. 33 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Has set for the last two years. 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 6: The American people are tired of politicians who use COVID 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 6: as an excuse for more extreme inflationary spending. 36 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: But President Biden is already rejecting House Speaker McCarthy's plan. 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 7: Magar, Republic and Congress are threatened to default on the 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 7: national debt, the debt that took two hundred and thirty 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 7: years to accumulate overall. Overall, unless we do what they say, 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 7: they say they're going to default unless I agree to 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 7: all these wacko notions they have. 42 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: Presidents spoke at a union hall outside Washington. Now it's 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: unclear if McCarthy's plan has enough support from fellow Republicans. 44 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 2: A vote on the bill could come as soon as 45 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: next week. 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: Meantime, Nathan spending on Ukraine remains in focus. The Biden 47 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: administration has announced another package of weapons and ammunition support, 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: valued at up to three hundred and twenty five million dollars. 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: It will include AMMO for rockets and anti armor systems 50 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: and more artillery rounds. The munitions will be taken from 51 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: US dogpiles. It is the thirty sixth such drawdown. 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: Elsewarn Washington Amy, the Supreme Court has made another move 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: on reproductive rights. The High Court is allowing access to 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: a widely used abortion pill until at least tomorrow. Justices 55 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: are still considering whether to allow longer restrictions on the 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: drug Mifa pristone to take effect. Scott Carr has more 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: from our Bloomberg ninety nine one newsroom in Washington. 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 8: The Court pushed back at original Wednesday deadline to decide 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 8: whether to allow a Texas judge's order restricting the sale 60 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 8: and use of Mifa pristone. While a legal challenge to 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 8: the Medicaidation's FDA approval over twenty years ago continues. The 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 8: Biden administration and the drugs maker Danko Labs in New 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 8: York want the High Court to reject the ruling out 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 8: of Texas, at least as long as the case makes 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 8: its way through the courts. The additional time could be 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 8: part of an effort to craft an order that has 67 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 8: broad support among the justices, and one or more of 68 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 8: them might be writing a separate opinion. They're now expected 69 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 8: to act by Friday night. In Washington, I'm Scott Carr, 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 8: Bloomberg Daybreak. 71 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, Scott. In Texas today, SpaceX hopes 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: to launch its next generation starship rocket this morning. A 73 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: problem with pressurization resulted in the previous launch being scrubbed. 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: The test flight as seen as a key step towards 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: sending humans to the Moon and Mars Corse. Elon Musk 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: is a CEO of SpaceX. 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: Amy. His other company is in the spotlight as well, Tesla. 78 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Its shares are down seven and a half percent in 79 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: early trading after profit missed and operating margins came in 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: just above eleven percent in the first quarter, down from 81 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: nineteen percent last year. Musk is signaling Tesla will continue 82 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: cutting prices to stoke demand. 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 9: We really don't think about competitors that much. We're the 84 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 9: only ones making cars that technically we could sell for 85 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 9: zero profit for now and then yield actually tremendous economics 86 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 9: in the future through autonomy. 87 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: Elon Musk says the best scenario could see Tesla produce 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: as many as two million vehicles this. 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Year, and the parade of earnings continues. This morning, we've 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: heard from the big banks. Now the regional lenders report 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: they're in the spotlight after the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank. 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: More in this live report from Bloomberg's John Tucker and Amy. 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 10: The results will offer investors to insight into the extent 94 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 10: of the damage from the March banking panic. Under the 95 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 10: microscope will be banks deposits, and the question everybody wants 96 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 10: to know is whether spooked customers dump their accounts and 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 10: transfer their cash to the perceived safety of the big banks. 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 10: The results yesterday from Western Lines Bank Or offered some hope. 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 10: That company said deponsits rose two billion dollars. Those shares surged. 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 10: The regional banks reporting today fifth Or Bankcorp, Huntington Bank Shares, 101 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 10: keycorek America, and Truest Financial. Wallstreet expects to see some 102 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 10: modern earnings growth driven by increases in net interest to income. 103 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 10: Live in New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Daybreak. 104 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: Thank you John. New York FED President John Williams says 105 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: the recent banking termol may make it harder for households 106 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: and businesses to get credit. Williams calls the banking system 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: sound and resilient, but he says recent developments will likely 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: lead to tighter credit conditions and that will affect spending 109 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: and In. 110 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Other banking news, HSBC says proposals this week from its 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: largest shareholder, ping An Insurance would destroy shareholder value. Bloomberg's 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: Rashad Salamod has details from Hong Kong. 113 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 11: HSBC says the restructuring proposal would mean low dividends. It's 114 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 11: in effect a shop rebuke of Pingan and its vision 115 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 11: of unlocking value. The British Bank HSBC fully rejected the 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 11: suggestion of a partial listing of its Hong Kong business, 117 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 11: saying the plan's smack of financial engineering and that Pingan 118 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 11: misunderstands Hi Species business. The bank reports first quarter results 119 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 11: on the second of main holds its annual meeting three 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:06,559 Speaker 11: days later. 121 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: Expect fireworks. 122 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Rashad Salami reports ping Ann currently owns eight percent 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: of HSBC stock. 124 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: Forty six degrees in New York, It's going to be 125 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: partly sunny today with hies in the upper sixties. We'll 126 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: get down to the low fifties tonight under a clear 127 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: too partly cloudy. Sky timed out a look at some 128 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: of the other stories making news in New York and 129 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: around the world with Bloomberg's Michael bar Good morning, Michael. 130 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: Good morning, Nathan. Police say an attempt at traffic stop 131 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: turn into a chase through Midtown Manhattan. According to the NYPD, 132 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: the driver hit one police officer in the head, evading 133 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: three police stops, speeding down sidewalks, ramming into a fire hydrant, 134 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: and slammed into a restaurant street shack. This woman says 135 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: the driver just missed her by inches while she was 136 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: crossing the street with a walker. 137 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: I was scared to death. The car kept speeding down 138 00:06:59,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: the street. 139 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 9: I was crossing from this side to that side. 140 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: The car I had the. 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 10: Light with his piece of wheel hit me down here 142 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 10: and the bumper came flying off. 143 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: The car eventually came to a stop. The driver managed 144 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 3: to crawl out from behind an inflated airbag and escaped. 145 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: Investigators are trying to determine the cause of this week's 146 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 3: parking garage collapse in Lower Manhattan. One worker was killed 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: and seven others were heard. Officials say, according to initial findings, 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: the age of building and the number of vehicles parked 149 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: on the roof deck contributed to the collapse. The eighty 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: four year old white man who shot Ralph Yarrel, a 151 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: black teenager in Kansas City, pleaded not guilty in his 152 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: first court appearance Wednesday. Yarl mistakenly went to Andrew Lester's 153 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: door looking for his younger brothers. Lester walked with a 154 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 3: cane in court as he entered charges a first degree 155 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: assault and armed criminal action in the shooting. Yar family 156 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: attorney Lee Merritt talked about Lester. 157 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 12: I want him to make this as easy on the 158 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 12: family as possible, to be forthcoming about what he did, 159 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 12: and he's going to spend the rest of his life 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 12: in prison. That's an outcome that we're hoping for. All 161 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 12: of his assets are going to become upsas sets me. 162 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: While the father of Kaylin Gillis is speaking out to 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: thirty six. Gillis was a passenger in a car with 164 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: three friends Saturday night, all looking for another friend's house 165 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: in a rural area of Hebron, New York, when they 166 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: mistakenly pulled into sixty five year old Kevin Monahan's driveway. 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: Police say the friends never got out of the car, 168 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: but Monahan opened fire from his porch, striking the twenty 169 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: year old Kaylen's father, Andrew Gillis. 170 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 8: She had hopes and dreams of becoming a marine biologist 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 8: or a veterinarian. 172 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: She loved animals and this man took that away from us. 173 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: And a Texas cheerleader remains in the ICU after two 174 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: cheerleaders were shot after one of them mistakenly tried to 175 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: enter the wrong car after practice. Global News twenty four 176 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: hours a day, powered by more than twenty seven hundred 177 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: journalist and analysts in over one hundred twenty countries. On 178 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: Michael Barr, This is Bloomberg. 179 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Nathan Michael. Time now for our Bloomberg Sports Uptake. Good morning, 180 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: John Stanshawer. 181 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: Good morning, Nathan Is. Yankees Angels series at the Stadium. 182 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 4: Build is the Battle of the MVPs. Aaron Judge against 183 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: Shoe a Otani, who on Tuesday hit a two run 184 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: homer before the Yankees recorded in out. So last night, 185 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 4: Judge hit a two run homer before the Angels recorded 186 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 4: it out. It came after Judge making a remarkable juggling 187 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: catch to take another first ending homer away from Otani. 188 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: Game one tennings, the Yanks scored on a Glabor Tortis 189 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: sack fly. They won three to two, and if they 190 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 4: went today at four o'clock, they will have still not yet. 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: Lost a series. 192 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 4: The Mets won the series in LA. They beat the 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: Dodgers five to three, despite Max Scherzer's ejection after the 194 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 4: third inning thrown out first sticky stuff, an accusation. 195 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 13: Shuzer denied, you sweating rosin your hands sticky. But I 196 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 13: don't get how I get ejected when I'm in front 197 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 13: of MLB officials doing exactly exactly what you want and 198 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 13: being deemed my hands too sticky when I'm using legal substance. 199 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: I do not understand that bullpen did the job. 200 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: After shurs Or left, Brandon Imo had a two one 201 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: Humber Marcana two on double. Mets visit the Giants tonight, 202 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: Stanley cuff welloffs. The Islanders were down two nothing and 203 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: then up three to two Hurricane scored five minutes into overtime, 204 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 4: won four to three to take a two to nothing 205 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 4: series leads. Florida surprisingly won Game two in Boston. Home 206 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: wins for Dallas and Edmonton. All those series are now 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: tied to one. The battle for the Hudson continues. 208 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Tonight. 209 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: Rangers, having one game one, play Game two with the 210 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 4: Devils Nets are down two nothing. 211 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: They'll host the Sixers in Game three. 212 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: NBA home wins from Milwaukee, Memphis. 213 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: And Denver Tiger Woods. 214 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: Last scene limping at the Masters will have fusion surgery 215 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: on his foot. Issues to me from that car accident, 216 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: Don Stashedward. 217 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Sports. 218 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 5: Live from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 219 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 5: Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on SIRIUSXAM, the Bloomberg 220 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: Business app in Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg Day Break. 221 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 5: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 222 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: The debate over the debt ceiling in Washington now includes 223 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: a bill to debate House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's proposing to 224 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: raise the nation's borrowing limit for about a year while 225 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: cutting government spending two last year's levels. The bill would 226 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: also add new work requirements to government benefits like Medicaid 227 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: and food stamps. 228 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 6: Right now, there are more job openings than people looking 229 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 6: for work. Our plan ensures adults without dependence earn a 230 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: paycheck and learn new skills. 231 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 2: And that was Speaker McCarthy unveiling the three hundred and 232 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: twenty page bill yesterday. And for more we're joined now 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: by Julie Norman, co director of the Center for US 234 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: Politics at University College London. Juliet's always great to speak 235 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: with you, and we've heard Democrats, including President Biden Warren 236 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: in the past that Republicans would aim at benefit cuts 237 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: as part of a debt sealing increase debate. Is this 238 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: bill just dead on arrival? 239 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 14: Well, Nathan, it will be interesting to see what happens 240 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 14: with the bill itself, because it'll be hard for McCarthy 241 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 14: even to get all of his own caucus to vote 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 14: unanimously on this to get it through the House. Even 243 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 14: if it gets through the House, Democrats have been clear 244 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 14: it's not going to get through the Senate, and Biden 245 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 14: has said obviously he's going to be to it. So 246 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 14: in terms of legislation, it's sort of dead in the water, 247 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 14: as you said, But what McCarthy is hoping is that 248 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 14: this will push Biden to negotiate on the debt ceiling, 249 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 14: at least have something down on paper to start working 250 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 14: with and to get the two talking to see what 251 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 14: they can do before June or before a default. 252 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: Now, are you seeing any signs that this could spur 253 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: President Biden to negotiate because his position at this point 254 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: has been he wants to clean debt ceiling increase and 255 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: any negotiations on spending need to be left of the 256 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: budget process. 257 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 14: Well, that's exactly right for Biden and for the administration. 258 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 14: It's an idea of principle as well, this idea that 259 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 14: we don't barter over raising the debt ceiling. This should 260 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 14: just be something that is a clean deal by Congress 261 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 14: that doesn't require all these negotiations and back dealings over 262 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 14: and over again. And then there's also the details of 263 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 14: this as well. You know, Biden is not looking to 264 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 14: join on with McCarthy and Republicans in cutting federal agencies 265 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 14: and increasing work requirements or going along with any other 266 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 14: the measures here. So there's the details, but also just 267 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 14: the larger principle at play. 268 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we should talk a little bit more about these 269 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: details as well, because, as you mentioned, there is that 270 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: difficulty for Speaker McCarthy just to keep his own caucus 271 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: rallied around this bill. He's only got a four seat 272 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: majority in the House. What's the potential that a certain 273 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: number of Republicans don't even support this offer. 274 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, it's going to be really tricky, and we've seen 275 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 14: that already in how long it's taken McCarthy even just 276 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 14: to cobble together this package. And even as this is 277 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 14: on the table, I understand that the House freed maccawk 278 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 14: is still trying to add on different measures that they 279 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 14: want to see on it, which may alienate some moderates. 280 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 14: So right now it's a somewhat loosely defined package of 281 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 14: about one hundred and thirty billion dollars of cuts in 282 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 14: federal spending, but again not clear on which agencies or 283 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 14: programs that would affect, particularly new work requirements on welfare programs, 284 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 14: blocking the student debt program, that cancelation program that Biden wants, 285 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 14: which the court may block anyway, and then a nu 286 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 14: most of their attack ons for permits for oil and gas. 287 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 14: So there's a lot in this. Again, I think it'll 288 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 14: be hard even for Mcartha to get it over the line. 289 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 14: But again it's very vague, and I think that's where 290 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 14: he's maybe hoping he can get people to sign on 291 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 14: because the details aren't all fleshed out. 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: Well, given that we don't have those of fully fleshed 293 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: out details, do you see a bigger risk that moderate 294 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: Republicans won't support this or some of the Freedom Caucus members. 295 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 14: It might be a little bit of both. I mean, 296 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 14: as you know, is kind of famously talked about now 297 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 14: the five families, so to speak. In the Caucus. There's 298 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 14: a lot of different interests at play. It's not even 299 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 14: just two sides that McCarthy is trying to balance between. 300 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 14: And because every vote is pretty much needed, there's a 301 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 14: lot of leverage for any one member or any small 302 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 14: group of members to really push for things for their district. 303 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 14: So I think there's going to be a lot of 304 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 14: deal making, so to speak, to try and get those 305 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 14: votes for McCarthy in these coming days. But again, at 306 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 14: the end of the day, the vote count doesn't really matter. 307 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 14: It's not really about the idea this would become legislation. 308 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 14: It's more is this a package that could start some 309 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 14: kind of negotiations and I think that back and forth 310 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 14: is going to continue a bit as the political brinkmanship 311 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 14: builds up. 312 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: Got about thirty seconds left here. Julie wall Street's been 313 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: pretty sanguine about the idea that the US would default 314 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: on its step up to now. Is this something that 315 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: wall Street needs to be concerned about? 316 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 14: Well, Nathan, it's a tough one because we hear this 317 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 14: the same scenario happen time after time again, and it 318 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 14: becomes a little bit like the Boy who Cried Wolf. 319 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 14: It seems like it's always going to get fixed up 320 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 14: the last minute, one way or the other. 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