1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On Titty's episode, we're 3 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: going to get into the untimely death of Kelly Clarkson's husband. 4 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: Brandy Glanville's face is back in the news this week, 5 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about that. Another weird accident 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: on a cruise, fake doctor who is doing home genital exams, 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: a teen who went missing and texted his mom for 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: help before being found dead, and a viral video of 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: a woman's drassic face change during pregnancy. All that and 10 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: more on Titty's episode, Let's get started with Brandon Blackstone, 11 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: who is Kelly Clarkson's ex husband. 12 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 3: Okay, so you just made the same exact error I 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: know I'm gonna make is that his last name is 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: black Stock, but I think also saying black Stone, and 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 3: when I was writing my notes, I just kept writing 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: black Stone instead of black Stock. 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: It's like this. 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: Weird error we're both making. But last week, Kelly Clarkson 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: posted that she was postponing her Vegas residency to be 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: with her kids because their father, her ex husband, was sick, 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: and that kind of shocked everybody because she doesn't really 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 3: often share her personal life. And the very next day 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: reports came out that he died. 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really sad because he's only forty eight, right, So, 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: and they said he was battling it for three years. 26 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: So just imagine getting diagnosed with something. I mean, that's 27 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: how old I am. It's just devastating to get some 28 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: kind of diagnosis like that. So I first I thought 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: it was actually kind of weird because I don't know 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: who these people are really, but I do remember, I mean, 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: she was like an American Idol person or one of 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: those types of people, like where did she come from? 33 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: She came from American Idol, but and she had like 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: the most probably I would say she had the most 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 2: successful career coming from that show. 36 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: And she was very successful. 37 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I heard her songs and stuff. It's 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 2: just it's not my kup of tea. But like, I 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: know who she is. So I just remember vaguely hearing 40 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: in the news over the past couple of years that 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: she was getting divorced and it seemed that it was 42 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: it was like really messy. 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: Right, Well, this is what's really interesting. So her agent 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 3: was her ex husband's father, initially, so his name was 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: Narvel black Sock and he was married to Riba for years. 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: I think like over twenty years they ever married. So 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: him and Riba ended up getting divorced because she Riba 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: said that their marriage was basically all business, like all 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: he could ever talk about was business. I assume he 50 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 3: was managing her as well. So I find this really 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: interesting because Brandon Blacksog ended up managing Kelly Clarkson at 52 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: some point in their marriage, and it seemed like he 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: was doing the same deal, like making a bunch of 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: deals without her consent, charging her a lot of fees 55 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 3: behind the scenes that she wasn't aware of until seemingly 56 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 3: after they got divorced, or maybe that came to light, 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: and that's why they got divorced, because she was like, 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: you're taking advantage of me, and you're my husband and 59 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: we have children together. But they got divorced in twenty twenty, 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 3: and after that it was just so contentious. He was 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: trying to get all this money from her. She had 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: to pay him this slump sum of over a million dollars, 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: and then she had to pay him this astronomical spousal 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: support on top of child support. Then a couple of 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: years ago. He ended up owing her all this money 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: because they proved that he was charging her an excessive 67 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 3: amount of fees when brokering deals for her. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: It's been a mess. 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't understand how he's charging her fees if they're married, Like, 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: isn't it all the same? 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Well? I guess not, because a typical agent fee would 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: be like ten percent of deal. And if he's broker 73 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: in the deals. Think about if Gabe was brokering deals 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: for you, would you assume he was maybe charging you 75 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty percent, not the average ten percent. You 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: want to think the money's all going to at the 77 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: same place, isn't it? But it is like if he 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: if he was charging me fifty percent, like it still 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: would be his money. I don't know whatever. I don't 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: get involved. I have no idea how people that have 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: money like that live. But regardless, like that's all I remember. 82 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: And then I was thinking, like God, this all was 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: going down when he went cancer, when he was going 84 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: through this cancer, but apparently it didn't happen until after 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: they were divorced. I guess, Well, so they're saying he 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: was privately battling it for three years. So let's say 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: he got diagnosed in twenty twenty two, I mean in 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, December of twenty three, that's when he 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: was issued to pay her over two point five million dollars. 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: So like their legal problems were going on into his diagnosis, 91 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 3: but maybe at that time they didn't know how severe 92 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: it was. 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's let's talk a little bit about the 94 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: cancer he has, which was which is melanoma. So it's 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: a it's I wouldn't consider it to be a rare 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: skin cancer, but it's not as common as other types 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: of skin cancer. 98 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: And it's been in the news a lot. 99 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: We've definitely talked about it on Mother No's death often 100 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: because of Teddy Mellancamp. She has stage four melanoma. 101 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 102 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: Chloe Kardashian had had it removed. She had a pretty 103 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: large resection done on her face for melanoma. And when 104 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: you get diagnosed with it initially, if you get it 105 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: taken out and it's very local, which means it's just 106 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 2: in that area where they cut it out and they 107 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: get it all out, you have a very high chance 108 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: of surviving it. And at that time it's not considered 109 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: to be a bad cancer. But once it spreads, if 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: you do not catch it early on, it's it's one 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: of the worst cancers. So that's an important thing when 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: you see any kind of abnormal lesion on your skin, 113 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: that you should go get it checked out right away, 114 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: because they're earlier that you get it taken care of 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: the better. So I didn't even know who this guy is, 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: and I just looked at a picture of him because 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to see if he fit the classic person 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: that you would think has the most increased chance of melanoma, 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: someone like my son in law Ricky, who's like a 120 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: pale ginger with body freckles and red hair, is like 121 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: the people that are most common demographic. 122 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like people that have. 123 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: Especially people that have light hair, like blonde, blue eyes, 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: white skin, they're at the most increased risk of it. 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: And then secondly, men who are over fifty years old 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: are at the highest risk of it too. So this 127 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: guy got diagnosed when he was forty five, so he's 128 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: kind of a little young. But melanoma is also one 129 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: of the most common cancers that occur in younger people. 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: So we even knew a kid that had a lesion 131 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 2: removed and it was pre cancerous at like ten years old, 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: so it could happen. It's not that it doesn't happen. 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: But her husband is he's fairly light skin, but he 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: has more of my coloring like he's he doesn't look 135 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: like the typical super white boy kind of. He's got 136 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: dark eyes and he's got dark hair, so he doesn't 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: look like the classic person that would be at the 138 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: highest risk for melanoma. Secondly, I look at him, and 139 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: he doesn't look like a sun worshiper. He doesn't look 140 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: like he has sun damage to his skin. I mean 141 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: not to say that, not to say that he doesn't, 142 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: but he doesn't have any kind of solar damage you 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: would say to his skin. 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: No. But they also lived on a pretty big ranch 145 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: and it seems like he spent a significant amount of 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: time on the ranch outdoor, so that could have been 147 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: a contributing fact. 148 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: It is possible. I mean, obviously it's possible it happened. 149 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: He also another thing sometimes you see in people that 150 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: have an increased risk of melanoma is they have a 151 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: lot of moles. You could look at their skin and 152 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: you could just see that they have them all over 153 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: their body, right, And he just doesn't have any of that, 154 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: but like you're saying, like, if he's outside working and 155 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: having that damage, it's possible. And then furthermore, if he 156 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,119 Speaker 2: has anyone in his family that's ever had a first 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: what you would call first degree relative, like a parent 158 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: or a brother or sister that have melanoma, you're also 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: at an increased rest. So we don't really know anything. 160 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: We don't know where it started. All we know is 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: that clearly it's spread all over his body and he 162 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: died of stage four melanoma. 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, and with everything I knew they were 164 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: going through, I think obviously she's taking off mostly to 165 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: be there for her kids. But I do think it's 166 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: cool of her that she could kind of put everything 167 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: aside and be there by his side and be with 168 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: her children during this horrific thing. I mean, I don't 169 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: know how you would get over something like this as 170 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: a kid. That just I mean, her kids are under 171 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: ten years. 172 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: You know, it's yeah, I feel badly hard on them 173 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: because it's already hard that your parents. I mean, I mean, 174 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine parents getting divorced, what that's like 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: on children as it is. And then go and even 176 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 2: though it seems like she was trying not to talk 177 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: shit on him and stuff the whole time. Like, kids 178 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: aren't stupid, they know what's going on. 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had two other kids too from a previous marriage, 180 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: and one of them had just announced that she was 181 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: pregnant too, So that's just really sad to have to 182 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: go through that for the whole family. So she was 183 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: doing a residency. What's a residency in Las Vegas. That's 184 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: like when people are on you know, at a hotel 185 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: for a while or something like that. Yeah, it's like 186 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: typically musicians will tour and go to different cities every 187 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: single weekend or day or whatever they do. But that's 188 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 3: like when you're in one place and playing at one 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: hotel for amount of time. I think on average, I 190 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: think on average people do it typically for a couple months, 191 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: but some of the bigger stars do it for like 192 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: only a couple weeks or something like. 193 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: That's what I was telling you. 194 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: With Dolly Parton's doing, I guess like what's considered a 195 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: mini residency in December, So she's only playing a couple 196 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 3: of days really, but it's over a couple weeks span 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: at the same venue in Vegas. 198 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: Oh okay, like, I just was wondering, like if they 199 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: actually have to live there because they're performing so much, 200 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: and stuff like how you how you have a family 201 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: and deal with something like that. 202 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: I think I've heard, like when Katie Perry did it, 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 3: for example, I think she was only I could be 204 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: totally wrong about this. I'm just going off of what 205 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: I remember. I think she was playing on the weekends, 206 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: so she would fly home during the week and then 207 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: go back. 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: Because if you live in. 209 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 3: LA it's such a short foot yeah, yeah, that's true, 210 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: or it's only a four hour drive, so I mean, 211 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: you could realistically shoot over. But I would say if 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 3: you're there for months at a time, you probably just 213 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: start living there for the couple of months and then 214 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: moving back. 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: All Right, So okay, let's stop talking about this now 216 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: because it is it's kind of sad, So let's talk 217 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: about another. This is another sad case honestly on Brandy Landvil. 218 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people think that she's kind 219 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: of a flake, and I could see why people are 220 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: getting that, but I do feel bad for her for 221 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: whatever is going on with her. Yeah, I mean we 222 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: first reported on this, I guess back in December when 223 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: she first came out with it where she was saying 224 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: that she thought she contracted this parasite in her face 225 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: while they were filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip in Morocco, 226 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: and then I don't know, I feel like at the time, 227 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: youth didn't think that was what it was. And I 228 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: still don't think she has answers almost a year later. 229 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, I recall, and I don't even I didn't 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 2: even look back to see what I said, because I'm 231 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: gonna say what I still think, which is what I 232 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: recall I said, is that she looks like she was 233 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: having some kind of a like a foreign body reaction 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: to the fillers that she had in her face. You know, 235 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: these especially a lot of these reality stars are filling 236 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: their face up with these fillers, and she has this 237 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: very lumpy appearance underneath of her skin. Sometimes they get 238 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: other things besides fillers, like injected underneath of their skin, 239 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: and it just looked like her skin was having some 240 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: kind of a granuloma reaction I would call it, which 241 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: is which is when the body recognizes something as far 242 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: in and then it kind of tries to build a 243 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: wall up around it, and her skin just has this 244 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 2: very weird lumpy appearance. 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: And I also. 246 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: Remember saying back then that this is something simple that 247 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: could be that could be answered with a biopsy. So 248 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: you know, what's that guy's name. 249 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: The botched guy, Oh, Terry dubro Yes. 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: So apparently a couple months ago he did four biopsies 251 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: on her face and they came back and showed nothing, 252 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: which means that and I don't know what nothing means, 253 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: because that could mean it didn't show cancer like people 254 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: have a big definition of it showed nothing. I have 255 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: a hard time believing that her skin looks like that 256 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 2: without there being something present. But whatever she thinks is nothing. 257 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: They were saying, Okay, Well, they also apparently took fungal 258 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: cultures and might go bacterial cultures, which are things that 259 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: could take a little bit longer to grow, which I 260 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: know from personal experience because my little one, Lucia went 261 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: through a similar thing that she had this you know, 262 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 2: we always talk about this autoimmune bone thing that she had, 263 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: But then she went on this drug Coda Humerra, which 264 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: ended up giving her psoriasis, and at some point one 265 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: of the psoriasis patches on her leg just got insane looking. 266 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: It was like eating a hole away at her leg, 267 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: and the doctors just kept trying to treat it with 268 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: all these different creams and medications and it wasn't going away. 269 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: And finally they buy upsied it and it was kind 270 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: of like same thing. It didn't show really anything at 271 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 2: least anything that would explain why it looked so crazy. 272 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: But then weeks later, i mean maybe even like a 273 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: month later, we found out that it was this real 274 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: unusual bacterial and fungal infection and she was treated with 275 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: the anti fungal drunk for a long time too, So 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: I know the frustration that she's going through because Lucea's 277 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: leg was like there was a possibility of like she 278 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: might need surgery. I mean at this point, I think 279 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: still to this day, that she might need some kind 280 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: of surgery to repair it, because you could see her 281 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: muscle underneath of this huge lesion on her leg, and 282 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: it doesn't look like the skin is very very thin there, 283 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: and if she has any kind of minimal trauma to it, 284 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a problem. But anyway, I mean, this 285 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: was done back in like February or something, so it 286 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: appears since she hasn't said anything, it doesn't look like 287 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: anything grew and they don't know what's going on. 288 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just find this really interesting because I guess 289 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: as a way to make it feel a little better, 290 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: she's been able to exfoliate her face, but then now 291 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 3: she's taken it one step further and put the hair 292 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: removal cream on her face, and it's left her with 293 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: these severe burns. I don't really understand what she was 294 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: thinking by putting that on there. 295 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: So she has no answers. 296 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: And up to this point, she keeps telling people that 297 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 2: she has a parasite on her face and she could 298 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: visibly see it moving underneath of her skin. But according 299 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: to all of these I mean, she's seen lots of 300 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: specialists like immunologists, infectious disease people. 301 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: And nobody knows what it is. 302 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: So that's I don't know if they think that this 303 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: is a mental thing that's going on, or or possibly 304 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: she does have something going on that they're just not 305 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: able to see. I just don't know of anything that 306 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: would be presenting like this that would not be able 307 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: to be identified either through a biopsy or cultures or 308 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: blood tests or all these other things. So I really 309 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with her there. But I 310 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: personally think like something's going on, because clearly you look 311 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: at her skin and you're like, Okay, it's very nodular, 312 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: it looks very angry. Yeah, Like I don't understand how 313 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: that would be mental because that looks outrageous. 314 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't even understand how you could do that to yourself. 315 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Well, the problem is though, if she's doing weird shit 316 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: to whatever initially was the problem. Like, certainly I think 317 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: that every single doctor in the world would advise if 318 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: you have inflamed, angry, some kind of process going on 319 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: in your skin, the last thing you should be doing 320 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: is putting a chemical like nar on top of it, 321 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: because it's just pissing it off. Even more so, putting 322 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: something like that on there just makes it angrier, and 323 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: it could just increase the nodules and increase the scar tissue. 324 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: Like it's just it's it's not a good idea. So 325 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: when you have patients. 326 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: That are kind of like home treating with these things, 327 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: that's why, like you look at it and you're like, oh, 328 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: it looks so bad, but you're like, she could be 329 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: making it look that bad because she keeps putting shit 330 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: on it that she shouldn't be putting on it. 331 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think she's facing a lot of criticism. 332 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: I had touched on this on the first time we 333 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 3: covered it, but they had filmed this season and she 334 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: allegedly molested or sexually assaulted. Not's fulbl and sexually assaulted, 335 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: but she allegedly inappropriately groped one of the other women, 336 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 3: Caroline Manzo. So Caroline Manzo's been in this massive lawsuit 337 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: with Bravo, And I don't know if you saw this 338 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: in the article, but she said she's calling the parasite Caroline, 339 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: which I'm like, considering there's this giant lawsuit that you're 340 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: involved in, maybe you should be doing that. But I 341 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: think that's why she's facing a lot of criticism because 342 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't really reflect well on herself, even though she 343 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: claims she's innocent. But the timing is just really weird, 344 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: and they haven't aired it yet and. 345 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: There's all this drama surrounding it. Yeah, the whole thing 346 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: is just weird. 347 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: I think she claims that she got this parasite while 348 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: eating food or something in Morocco, when it's just like, 349 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you can get a parasite that burrows underneath 350 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: the skin that you could see underneath of your skin, 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: scabies or something like that, but it's just that would 352 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: be seen on a biopsy for sure. And even that 353 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: did doctor Terry from Botched said that he didn't think 354 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: it was anything like that. I think that he his 355 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 2: number one thing. I saw that he thought it was 356 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: a foreign body reaction too. And on top of that, 357 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: the secondary thing was like, oh, maybe it's a weird 358 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: fungus or something that takes a longer time to diagnose, but. 359 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: We would have known that by now. 360 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: And I guess furthermore, I guess we could say that 361 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: if she's going through the extra steps to do all 362 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: these weird treatments like nair, which I think is kind 363 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: of irresponsible because she she made some kind of video 364 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: to say like, hey, why would you spend money on 365 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: chemical appeals when you could just do this at home, 366 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: which is just like absolutely terrible advice to give anyone. 367 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: They do make nair for because. 368 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: People have like peach fuzz and stuff on their hair. 369 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: They make nair for your face, but like it's a 370 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: very it's a less strong formula, and you should only 371 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: leave it on for the recommended time and even then, 372 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: like you could get chemical burns from it, even if 373 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 2: your skin's perfectly healthy. Like I personally would never put 374 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: that shit on my face, right, Well, I used. 375 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: It on my legs once and it burns so bad. 376 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: Like I don't know if I just had a bad 377 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: reaction to it or what. Yeah, So I don't I 378 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: really don't. 379 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: I don't really know, but I'm just saying, like, if 380 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: she does this home stuff that she's kind of making up, 381 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: it's totally possible, especially like sometimes people get fillers that 382 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: they don't go and get like hygh luronic acid from 383 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: your dermatologists. They get like weird shit from weird people 384 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: that are injecting weird shit like silicone and stuff in 385 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: people's faces. And if she had anything like that, that's 386 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: definitely There's so many documented cases of people getting silicone 387 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 2: in their face and then just having these horrible far 388 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: body reactions to it. 389 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 1: So I don't know. We'll keep you guys updated if 390 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: we hear anything. 391 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: You know. What I just thought of though, like when 392 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: the story first came out was give her take around 393 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: the time the lawsuit story was really picking up, and 394 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: this story just came out in the last week or two, 395 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: and this really big book by a girl that was 396 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: on vander Pump Roules just came out and she had 397 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: an affair with Brandy's husband and described it in the book. 398 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: So I'm like wondering, Like, I'm not accusing her of anything. 399 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm just saying the timing for both situations is a little. 400 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: What are you saying that she's just like extra stressed 401 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: out or something she's actually stressed wants like attention taken 402 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 2: away from that. 403 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe she's extra stressed out or she's acting out 404 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 3: as a response of these things happening in the press. 405 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, But I don't know what's 406 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: going on. I'm just saying, like I just put that 407 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 3: together with Sheena's book coming out in the last two 408 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: weeks and this coming out in the last two weeks, 409 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 3: and then the last time this was a story was 410 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 3: when the lawsuit news was really picking up. So I 411 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 3: do think it's kind of interesting, but. 412 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll stay on top of this really 413 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: important story. 414 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: Well for me it is, and probably like five people 415 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: that listen to the show. 416 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 417 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: So all right, our next story is another cruise incident. 418 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 3: Do you feel like this many cruise incidents are always 419 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: happening or we're just more aware of it. 420 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: Because I don't know. 421 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I never cared about a cruise because 422 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: I always was that person that was like, I'm never 423 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 2: going on one, So I just think I blocked it 424 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: out of my head. And now that we've been on one, 425 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: it's like so many things seem to be happening. 426 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is just really weird. But okay, So on 427 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 3: the Royal Cruise, same brand we went on, the Icon 428 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: of the Sea is the water slide broke and there's 429 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 3: this giant hole in the middle of it and you 430 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: can see the water pouring out onto the deck and 431 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: people are screaming stop the slide because obviously if someone 432 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: were to go down the slide and go over it, 433 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: they would get really hurt. And I guess that one 434 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: guy did go over it right before it broke, but 435 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: he did get injured from the crack. 436 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess. 437 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: It's a clear part of the water slide, so you 438 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: could look out of it. Usually it's like a bright 439 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: colored acrylic plastic thing, you know, bright red or bright 440 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: green or something, but this one had a section that 441 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: was clear that looked like glass, but it was acrylic. 442 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 2: So that broke somehow, which is actually weird because it 443 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: doesn't appear that it's at the seam. It just appears 444 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: that it's like randomly in the middle of it, which 445 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: is like such a weird place. And you know what 446 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: really scares What scares me about it, I guess is 447 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: that prior to starting the rides every day, I assume 448 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: that they're checking them to make sure that that there's 449 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 2: no situation like this. And I would think that if 450 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: the acrylic was weak in one spot, like you've ever 451 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 2: seen a piece of plexiglass or something like, you could 452 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: tell that it's kind of cracked and it looks like 453 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: it's about the break or something. It's it's just you 454 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 2: would think that that would have been visible. But maybe 455 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 2: they're only checking the seams because that would be the 456 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: most likely place that something would break. Unless the guy 457 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: that went on the slide was over the weight it 458 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: that you should be able to go on it. Like, 459 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: we don't know any of those details, but apparently, like 460 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: favorite word, they said that he got lacerations on his 461 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: back and on the back of his thighs. So, in 462 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 2: my opinion, if a piece of acrylic plastic like that 463 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: is broken, it's almost going to be as sharp as 464 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: a sharp weapon like a knife, right, Oh, totally, And 465 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: that would not really cause a laceration because a laceration 466 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: would be caused by blunt trauma, such as getting hit 467 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: in the back of the leg by a baseball bat 468 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: or a blunt object. And when you get an injury 469 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: that is from a sharp object such as glass or 470 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: even very sharp plastic, that would be considered a sharp 471 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: force injury or an incisional wound. And it's not a laceration, 472 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: And they misuse it all the time, and it drives 473 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: me fricking crazy. 474 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: I feel like there's another story coming up this week 475 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: where they misused it too. I don't remember off the 476 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: top of my head. I have it as a note somewhere. 477 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 2: So I think so too. But I think one of 478 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 2: them is actually correct for once, So I don't know. 479 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just constantly is driving me crazy. 480 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: So you know, Louis brought up a really good point too, 481 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: that he said he thought from pictures it appeared that 482 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: part of this slide went like over the edge of 483 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: the boat, and can you imagine it breaking there and 484 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 3: then falling into the ocean or something. 485 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: If you fell off. 486 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know this. It's so scary to me. Anything 487 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 3: that happens on these boats is scary. And then I 488 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: was reading also that the crews didn't tell anybody what happened, 489 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: So unless you saw it online or you were on 490 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: the poll deck when it happened, you just had no 491 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: idea this happened. 492 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know. 493 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: They closed the water slide afterwards, a big deal. And 494 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: then as of this morning, it was reported that the 495 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 3: guy that got injured has retained a lawyer, which I 496 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: would say lawsuit word, yes, because. 497 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how scary that is. But it's cool. 498 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: It's it is kind of cool that they interviewed all 499 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: these people that were witnessing it and taking the videos 500 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: and stuff, and they're like, I am never going on one. 501 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: Of those again. 502 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: Like obviously, I don't even want to go on one 503 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: again after seeing that. 504 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: Remember that I don't even know if it was on 505 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: this or if it was a gross room post or 506 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: what it was. In the last couple of years, there 507 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: was that roller coaster that had the crack in this 508 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: oh yeah beam, Yes, that's what I was and it 509 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 3: was like shaking and it wasn't attached. I know it 510 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 3: really when you watch the video, it almost makes you 511 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: panicked to watch this hole and hearing the people scream 512 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: to stop the ride, when you're just like, oh my god, 513 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 3: what if they don't hear and no one's communicating with 514 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: them and they send like a kid down and the 515 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 3: kid falls. 516 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: Out of the hole or something, or an adult whatever 517 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: like it. 518 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: The whole thing is just like it gives you that gross, 519 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: panicky feeling that you could see something really bad is 520 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: about to happen. 521 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if they have some type of emergency alert 522 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: system on the ground. 523 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure. 524 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure they do, because usually when you go on 525 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: rides like that, you see the people have some kind 526 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: of like micro or like an intercom like a walkie 527 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: talkie situation or whatever. But yeah, that it's also weird 528 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: too because if I'm correct, that's their newer ship right, 529 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: Like it's it's only a year or two old. It's 530 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: not like this is a water slide that's been there 531 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: for ten years. It's a pretty new one. 532 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe you're correct with it because it's I 533 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: think it's currently considered the largest active cruise liner, but 534 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: their new ship is bigger. Than that, and that's going 535 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: to be it's either about to launch or like it's 536 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: going to be ready in the next couple Yeah. 537 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: So, I mean just because I feel like a couple 538 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 2: of incidents that we talked about have been with this 539 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: particular ship. But obviously I feel like it holds almost 540 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 2: double of what was on our ship. 541 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: So you're going to have Is this the same boat 542 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: as the other incident from the last couple of weeks 543 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 3: I believe, So, oh. 544 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: My god, I didn't even put that to I. 545 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: Think I think at least the the the one with 546 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 2: the with the person falling over the edge of the pool, 547 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: but that's like that was a human error too. And 548 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: oh the murder one, Yeah, that one too, I believe, 549 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 2: the one where the guy killed his the woman and 550 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: then yes, and then he like or he tried to 551 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: kill the woman and then he jumped overboard. 552 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I believe. 553 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 3: So, yeah, they need to really maybe put this boat 554 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: on boss and see what so much shy They should 555 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 3: hold crime con there because that would be like an 556 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 3: active investigation. The CRI have a whole entire on the 557 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 3: crime cruise, just have a whole entire time talking about 558 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 3: all the incidents that happened on that particular ship. 559 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: That is a great idea. 560 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: Kelly or Kevin, if you're listening, I think this is 561 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: the way you should get for the crime cruise. 562 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: This episode is brought to you by the grocery guys. 563 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 2: The Grosser Room is on sale for only twenty dollars 564 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: for a whole entire year of gross We don't put 565 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: it on sal that often, but right now you could 566 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: check out. 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This week we 570 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: did the tragedy of missing boys in Camden, New Jersey. 571 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: So anyone that's local to us knows exactly what that is. 572 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: But we really go through I don't want to give 573 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: you away too many details of what happened, but it's 574 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: just kind of a shocking case of kids that went 575 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: missing and not what you would typically think would happen. 576 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: We also had another really interesting Rechtel Farign body case 577 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: in the grosser Room. I feel like we have at 578 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: least one of those a week because I have a 579 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: lot of them on the back burner as well, and 580 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: we have this really disturbing video about why doctors ask 581 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: you if you've had any foreign travel. 582 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: So all that and. 583 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: More the Gross Room this week, and we also have 584 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: of course our YouTube live this Friday at twelve noon. 585 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, head over to the Grossroom dot com now to 586 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: get one year of gross for only twenty dollars. 587 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: This week, not in this particular episode, but just this 588 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: week on Mother No's death, we have a couple stories 589 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: of people who are pretending to be healthcare professionals when 590 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: they are not well. 591 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: This was a particularly unusual one. So this guy was 592 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: found guilty of practicing medicine without a proper license after 593 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: it came out he was luring men to his apartment 594 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 3: for home genital exams. So this guy was seemingly a 595 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: resident in twenty twenty two when he was doing this, 596 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: and he joined this running group and had told the 597 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 3: men in his running group that he had to get 598 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: like so many hours doing ultrasounds to complete his education. 599 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: So they go to his house and agree to it, 600 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: and then he ends up examining their genitals, which they 601 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: say they didn't know what was going to happen, and 602 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: he videoed the whole thing. 603 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so one of the guys went home and told 604 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: his wife film was like, that was kind of weird, 605 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: and then she agreed and they reported it and this 606 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: all came out. But I mean, so he was doing 607 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: ultrasounds on guys genitals and then video taping it and 608 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: then probably like doing something really disgusting after they left 609 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: with the videos. 610 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they said totally separately. He stood trial 611 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: in April on a misdemeanor charge of voyeurism, but he 612 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: was acquitted and then this comes out later. 613 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: I just we say this all the time, especially with 614 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: people that are working in medicine. To be a medical 615 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: resident is not an easy thing to do. You know, 616 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: you have to go to four years of undergrad college 617 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: and then you have to do four years of medical school, 618 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: and then you have to get a residency. The whole 619 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: thing's highly competitive. You have to take tests in order 620 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: to pass, to get through all of these these different 621 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: parts of medicine, and then you finally get a residency, 622 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: which is you're considered to be a doctor, but you 623 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: don't you're not an attending physician yet. You still have 624 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: to finish that and usually do fellowships afterwards. But to 625 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: think that a person would go through all this and 626 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: then do something like this. I can't even imagine that 627 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: if he was even allowed to finish his residency and 628 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: become an attending physician, that any place in their right 629 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: mind would hire somebody that's that's. 630 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: Done something like this. No, I highly doubt. 631 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't even know what his residency was in, but regardless, 632 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 2: it's just it's just really bizarre. And but I have 633 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 2: to tell you about some of the comments posted underneath 634 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: one guy I like, I really love the comments section 635 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: sometimes on just anything in general. Gabe and I always 636 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: send videos back and forth to each other, and it's 637 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: just like read the comments. There are some like true 638 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: comedic geniuses out there that just aren't aren't showing it 639 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: with some of the comments that people write. I mean, 640 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: this one's not like completely genius. I just thought it 641 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: was funny, but someone put great free handy no copay, 642 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm in so funny, But I mean, the whole situation 643 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 2: is not funny. And the way that the story's written, 644 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: you're you're just like, Okay, what person in the right 645 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: mind would just go to someone's house to get this done? 646 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: But I could see I guess he was trying to 647 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: say that he was doing some kind of like research 648 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: or something to help people with their health, and he 649 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: wanted to do I don't know, Like, I guess you 650 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: could see how people fell for this, Yeah. 651 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean it must. 652 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 3: I think it was one of those things too, where 653 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: it happens and you like, you're saying, this guy goes 654 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: home and talks to his wife about it, and he's like, 655 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: I feel weird about this, But do you also think 656 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: it's weird because it's like a really unusual situation. Because 657 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 3: I think everybody in their right mind wants to think 658 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 3: the best of everybody. You don't want to think that 659 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: a guy you were in a running group with just 660 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: took you back to his apartment and totally took advantage 661 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 3: of me for his own perverted needs. 662 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: And the wife was probably staring at him like, yeah, 663 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: that's weird. You know, when you hear it from from 664 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: being outside the situation, she was probably like. 665 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: What are you Like, of course he was. I just 666 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: think it's funny. 667 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: Remind me at a time that, uh, when we were 668 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 3: living in the city, Ricky went out to get us 669 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 3: coffees and he comes in the house and he goes 670 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: some guy just pulled a machete on me, and I 671 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: was like what, and he's like, yeah, he just he 672 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 3: just started screaming at me and pulled a machete on me, 673 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 3: and then you know, then he drove away because he 674 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: was in the car. And I'm like, Okay, well we 675 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: have to call the police. And he's like, I don't 676 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 3: really think it's that big of a deal, Like what 677 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 3: are you talking about? 678 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're just like, that's I do think that 679 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 2: that's happened. Sometimes that you have an experience and you 680 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: don't really realize it's as bad as like someone hearing 681 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: the story outside does you know, It's just like a 682 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: weird thing people's brain does. 683 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 3: Because you know me, I immediately was like so upset 684 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: about it, and he was just like. 685 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: What's the big deal? What are you talking about it? 686 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: You're like, that person probably shouldn't be going around the 687 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 2: city if. 688 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: Like driving like a minivan. 689 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 2: The police whatn't even would they even came if you 690 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 2: called them? At that point? 691 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: Anyway? 692 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: No, I I called and reported and they're like do 693 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 3: you have a license plate? And I was like no, 694 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: and they're basically like, well, what do you want us 695 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: to do. 696 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: What do you want them to do? Oh, you're in 697 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: the city of Philadelphia. There's millions of people, and you're like, oh, 698 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 2: there's a guy in South Philly in a minivan. 699 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: Like that's not helpful even a little bit, Like you 700 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: should you shouldn't even have bothered. All right, a shit, 701 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: let's talk. 702 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: So this case has been circulating the news with this 703 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: week about this this teenager which has just had an 704 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: incredibly sad ending, which unfortunately is what I suspected would happen. 705 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So he's eighteen years old. His name's Giovanni Pelatier. 706 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: So he was visiting Florida with his mother and her fiance, 707 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 3: hoping to reconnect with his dad's side of the family. 708 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: So his dad was in jail, but he had made 709 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 3: plans to meet up with his cousins. A couple of 710 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 3: days in the trip. The cousins pick him up at 711 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 3: one thirty in the morning. They said they were going 712 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 3: to be making a three hour trip back to where 713 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 3: they lived. I guess on the other I think they 714 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: were on the Gulf side and the cousins lived on 715 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: the h the Atlantic side. So the kid gets picked 716 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 3: up one thirty in the morning and only twenty five 717 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 3: minutes later, texts the mom help, but she was sleeping 718 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 3: so she didn't see it until the next morning, and 719 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 3: he had texted a couple other family members for help too, 720 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: And by the time the mom wakes up and she 721 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 3: gets in contact, the kid is gone. 722 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: She talks to the cousins. They're like, oh, I don't know. 723 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: We were smoking weed and he pulled a knife out 724 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: and was acting crazy and he got out on the 725 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 3: side of the road, like totally against his character according 726 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 3: to the rest of the family. Yeah, And so when 727 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 3: I heard this, I was just like, you know, we've 728 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 3: talked about this with with weed in the past, and 729 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: just how some of it is a lot stronger, like 730 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: more potent strains of it, and especially with kids of 731 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 3: this age, that there's this increased risk of psychosis happening 732 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: with marijuana that we've been seeing documented cases of. So 733 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm wondering if it's something as simple as that, or 734 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 3: the weed had something else in it that was causing Like. 735 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't think that it's that. 736 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 2: It might not be untrue that he smoked something and 737 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: started having psychosis and it freaked the cousins out to 738 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 2: the point where they dropped him off and were like, yo, 739 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: because they don't really know him either, right. 740 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 3: Well, I it seems like the leading theory is that 741 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: they did something to him. But do you think if 742 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 3: he did smoke weed and it was we didn't do 743 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 3: psychosis that it would kick in in twenty five minutes. 744 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: I mean that seems pretty fast. 745 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? 746 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you get I don't think that that's out 747 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 2: of the rama possibility at all. It gets especially smoking it, 748 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: it gets in your system so fast. I just they 749 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: you know, they're doing an autopsy, obviously they so they 750 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 2: so go go ahead and tell about how they found 751 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: the body and stuff. 752 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so his phone and backpack were found on the 753 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: side of the road about an hour away, and then 754 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 3: they ended up finding his remains in a retention pond 755 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: off of I seventy five. But the family's mad because 756 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 3: they said the police had initially looked in that area 757 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: and did not find him, and it wasn't until later 758 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 3: when they had a private investigator look into it that 759 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: that person ended up finding him. So I also read 760 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: this morning that they want the FBI to get involved 761 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 3: because they just felt like they were blown off about 762 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 3: the search for the kid. He was missing for over 763 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: a week. 764 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, the family has and I don't know what the 765 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: deal is with the private investigator, but the family has 766 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 2: definitely made it a point to make social media posts 767 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: to say like they are the ones that found the body, 768 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: not the police. 769 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't. 770 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: Really know how they I guess I mean obviously, like 771 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: I would do the same thing if I called the 772 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: police and they weren't really doing anything. And we hear 773 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 2: this from time to time on stories I we cover 774 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 2: on this show that especially if you call the police 775 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 2: and say you can't get a hold of an eighteen 776 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: year old, they don't really take that seriously unless the 777 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: person's missing for X amount of days or something. And 778 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 2: it's unfortunate because technically an eighteen year old as an adult, 779 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 2: but it's if you're a mother, that's still your baby 780 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 2: and you know how they act. And I feel like 781 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 2: with the text messages that said help me, that should 782 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 2: have maybe had police take it more seriously, because it's 783 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: not just like, oh, I can't get a hold of 784 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: this kid, like he literally was like helped me. And 785 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: the whole situation is he's with people that I'm not 786 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 2: sure that he ever met before that. The whole thing 787 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 2: is weird anyway, Like who pays someone up for a 788 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: family of reunion at one thirty in the morning to 789 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: drive three hours across the state. Of course, the mother 790 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: was sleeping, because like that's what people do in the 791 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 2: middle of the night, is sleep. Yeah, but I do 792 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: think that it has I mean, his body was found decomposed, unfortunately, 793 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 2: which is terrible way if the family was involved and 794 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 2: saw him that way. But they're saying it doesn't look 795 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 2: like there was any foul play yet, So to me, 796 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 2: it's like, well, he doesn't look like he was shot, 797 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 2: he doesn't look like he was stabbed, and he doesn't 798 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: look like he was beat up. But like, obviously they 799 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: have to do the autopsy and do X rays and 800 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: do the internal examine to toxicology. But I understand that 801 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: they're saying that it looks like the cousins did something 802 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: to him, but very well their story could be legit 803 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 2: that he was just I mean, listen, they're gonna be 804 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: I assume that they can be charged with with something 805 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 2: because if he was having some kind of a mental condition, 806 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 2: you can't just drop especially he's not from there or anything. 807 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: You can't just drop a person off at the side 808 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 2: of the road and like, let let them fend from 809 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: themselves when they're in that situation. 810 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really curious to see what the autopsy's gonna 811 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: show up, like turn up, because I think that's gonna 812 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 3: you know, I'm hoping it's straightforward because if it's not 813 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 3: inconclusive or whatever, could it be inconclusive because of the 814 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 3: state of his body. I'm saying that because I could 815 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 3: see it. If it doesn't give a clear cut answer 816 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 3: as to what happened, is turning into a really sensationalized I. 817 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: Think that he was decomposed, but I don't know that 818 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: he like how decomposed he was. I mean, he was 819 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 2: only missing for like not too long, right, he was 820 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 2: missing over a week, And it's ford they'll still be 821 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 2: able they'll still be able to see a lot of 822 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: things with the autopsy, like, for example, if he was 823 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: in any kind of a fight, they'll they'll sometimes they 824 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 2: could still see the hemorrhage in this off tissue, but 825 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 2: they'll definitely be able to see if there's any kind 826 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: of broken bones or any kind of wounds on the 827 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: bones that would indicate that he was stabbed or something 828 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: like that. And obviously if he was shot the same thing, 829 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: so they'll they'll be able to tell, and they'll also 830 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: be able to get some fluid for toxicology to see 831 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: what's going on there. I mean, we'd we like we're 832 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: saying weed's potent and stuff right now, which could just 833 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 2: happen with like regular weed. But weed is laced with 834 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 2: shit all the time too, knowingly and unknowingly. So I mean, 835 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 2: if you're if you're buying it obviously from like a 836 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: legit pharmacy around here, you're good as far as it 837 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: not having some other kind of drug mixed in with it, 838 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: but you could have like angel dust, PCP, anything like 839 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: that inside it, which is also a hallucinogen. And like, honestly, 840 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't want to say, because the whole 841 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 2: situation's weird, But you just can't blame either side right 842 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: now because we don't know anything. But I mean, if 843 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: I picked up a cousin that I've been talking to 844 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: on Facebook for a couple of years that I never 845 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 2: met in real life, and we decided to smoke weed 846 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 2: together and they pulled a knife out and started acting crazy, 847 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 2: I might want to drop them off at the side 848 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 2: of the road too, like. 849 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, you know, if that's what happened, 850 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: what happens, Oh yeah. 851 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't. But I just hope that they stay open 852 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: minded in situations like that because we don't know. 853 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I hope the family just gets the answers 854 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 3: they need, like cause I just see it the potential 855 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 3: for it to end up being like a Karen Reid 856 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 3: type of thing, like there's not conclusive answers to what happened. 857 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: Is going to be like this from now on because 858 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: of the Internet, no, I know. 859 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 3: So hopefully the autopsy is conclusive and they get answers 860 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: so they can try try to find peace with it, 861 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 3: you know, because it's a tragedy, all right. So this 862 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 3: video is going around where this woman is claiming that 863 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 3: when she got pregnant, her face just became completely unrecognizable. 864 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 3: So in this video she shows before and after pictures, 865 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: and this video has gotten millions of views, one hundred 866 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 3: and sixteen million views, and so many people are Obviously 867 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 3: people are interested in it because she looks drastically different 868 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: from picture one to picture two, but also so many 869 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 3: people are like, yeah, you don't look like that, so 870 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 3: we don't even we don't even believe you right now 871 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: and then, so she said she's not posting about it 872 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 3: anymore because she's gotten so much backlash over it. So 873 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: I went on her TikTok page because yes, the before 874 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 3: picture they use is extremely face tuned. I mean, it's 875 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 3: impossible to tell what this person really looks like, but 876 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 3: when you do go look at other videos of her, 877 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 3: I could see what she kind of looked like minus 878 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 3: all the filters beforehand. I don't think she had this 879 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 3: drastic situation going on her face before she claims she 880 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 3: got pregnant. 881 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: So what do you think? 882 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 883 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 2: Great, I agree, like I think, and I don't know, 884 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 2: is that is the picture that's in this article, the 885 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 2: one that she was using to be like, this is 886 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 2: what I looked like before, and this. 887 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 1: Is what I look like now. 888 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the video that is, But I don't think 889 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,360 Speaker 3: that was an accurate representation. 890 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: It absolutely wasn't. Like when I looked at that, I'm 891 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: just like, she looks she looks like one of those 892 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 2: like an anime care, like an anime care just. 893 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 3: Because it's so it's there's like settings on face tune 894 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 3: and they were just clearly turned all the way up. 895 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,439 Speaker 1: It's like the ninety chick, And this is just. 896 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: Like something I want to talk about in general, because 897 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 2: like all of these people are are putting these pictures 898 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 2: like on their profile and they're like, is that girl 899 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: legitimately think that that's what she looked like? Because she 900 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: didn't look like that, And you're trying to tell us 901 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 2: that's what you look like, and like, you don't look 902 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: like that. 903 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 3: The thing that I thought was weird though, is if 904 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,839 Speaker 3: you go through her page, the other content she has 905 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 3: is not as heavily filtered like that. So I don't 906 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 3: understand why that was the reference point. Maybe she's just 907 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 3: a social media genius and she used that one because 908 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 3: she knew it would get a lot of debate in 909 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 3: her a lot of views. 910 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: Well yeah, exactly, and that could totally be possible. But 911 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: I do think that there there are people though, that 912 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 2: try to pass that off. 913 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: Is that is that what that's what they look like? 914 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: And that's what I was just gonna say. 915 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: That chick from ninety Day Fiance Darcy, I mean Teresa 916 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 3: gu Jidas from Real House West in New Jersey, she 917 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,360 Speaker 3: does it that extreme and it's like, what is happening? 918 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: You're on television? 919 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: People, you could tell yeah, but you could tell us 920 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 2: that that's what you look like. And like, god, Chloe 921 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,879 Speaker 2: Kardashian was doing it hardcore a couple of years ago, 922 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 2: and they're just like, dude, you could sit there and 923 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: tell us that that's what you look like, but you don't. 924 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: Look like that. 925 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: It's I hate those I hate those filters. I hate 926 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 2: any filter, honestly, Like I just think it's I was 927 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: very happy when I met someone in Atlanta and they 928 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 2: were like, you look exactly the same, and I'm like, yeah, 929 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,240 Speaker 2: cause I I don't put a weird filter on my face, 930 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 2: Like this is what I look like in real life. 931 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 1: Take it or leave it, like anyway, all right. 932 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 2: So we're so when you look at what she really 933 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: looks like and then what she looks like in pregnancy, 934 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 2: it's still very drastic, but it's also believable because when 935 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 2: you're pregnant, lots of different things go on with your body, 936 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 2: and you could talk about this, like, just talk to. 937 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: So many women. 938 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 2: And actually, I wanted to tell you guys, if you 939 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,439 Speaker 2: guys have any stories of like crazy things that happen 940 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,800 Speaker 2: to your body when you're pregnant, you could always email 941 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 2: us and let us know, because I think we're going 942 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 2: to start doing some emails on top of the questions 943 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 2: that we do at the end of this episode, just 944 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 2: because we want to hear your stories as well. But so, 945 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: when you're pregnant, a couple different things happen, and one 946 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 2: is when you get towards the end of pregnancy, after 947 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: thirty weeks, you actually start making more blood in your body, 948 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 2: which is really cool that women can do this, and 949 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 2: it's kind of like this evolutionary thing because there's so 950 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: much blood lost doring childbirth, So you have this increase 951 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 2: of blood in your body not only for that but 952 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 2: just to help this growing parasite inside of your body. 953 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 2: And you also have an increase of estrogen, which dilates 954 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 2: the blood vessels as well. So in your nose, for example, 955 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 2: you know when you're sick and your nose just gets 956 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: kind of swollen, it's it's very red, and it just 957 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 2: looks like it's bigger than it normally is. That's because 958 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: your nose is just different than the skin on your cheek, 959 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 2: for example, because you have all of these mucus cells 960 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 2: and everything underneath of that, and when all of that 961 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 2: gets angry and inflamed, it could just make it seem 962 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: like it's larger because on your cheeks like you have fat, 963 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 2: but in your nose there's not really fat or anything. 964 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 2: So and you're staring in the mirror and you're looking 965 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 2: and it's just like, Okay, this looks huge compared to 966 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 2: how it did look. So there's not an official condition 967 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: called pregnancy nose, but lots of different women have experienced it, 968 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: and it's something that, like legit can be explained physiologically 969 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 2: what's going on in a preguate body. And then so 970 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 2: that would explain why her nose looks so much larger. 971 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: And then she also looks like she has pregnancy acne 972 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: as well. 973 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like a couple pimples. It's it 974 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: looks like she has an insane rash on her face. 975 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean this is what you So people 976 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 2: that get pregnancy acne are usually people that if you 977 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 2: get it like in the first week of your period, 978 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 2: you're more likely to get it in the first trimester 979 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 2: of pregnancy, and then you could carry on with it 980 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 2: throughout the rest of your pregnancy. And the problem is 981 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 2: is if you're I mean, like some people like you 982 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 2: and I for example, are people that get like a 983 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: ZiT here or there, but some people that have full 984 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: on acne. If you've seen people that have it really 985 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 2: severe as a teenager, they have to go on some 986 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: pretty hardcore medications to really treat it and get rid 987 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: of it. And if you're prone to that, you can 988 00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: get which I'm not. 989 00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: This is just my opinion. 990 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm just making I'm not trying to diagnose her by video, 991 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 2: but I am at the same time, like her skin 992 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 2: without the filter looks like she had an acne problem 993 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 2: at some point in her life. She just has like 994 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 2: scars that would be consistent with acne. So now she's pregnant, 995 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 2: she's at an increased risk of getting it again. And 996 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: you can't take like the acutine. I don't even know 997 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 2: if acutine is the proper or you can't take anymore, 998 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 2: but you can't take any anny, So that could be 999 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 2: why it just looks extra angry, or whatever she was 1000 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 2: doing to treat it could just make her skin like 1001 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 2: it looks like she's got full blown acne on her face, 1002 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 2: but on top of that it looks very swollen and angry, 1003 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 2: which just makes it look more drastic. So I I 1004 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: don't believe that that part of the story is fake 1005 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: even a little bit, like that photo looks like something 1006 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 2: that could really happen, and it is even strikingly different 1007 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: from her real appearance, and lots of like I could 1008 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 2: tell you, like my feet got bigger when I was pregnant. 1009 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: There's just like different things that happen to everyone's body. 1010 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 2: So I am curious if you've guys have had anything 1011 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 2: like that. I don't really recall my nose getting bigger, 1012 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: but I do know that my nose gets like it 1013 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,840 Speaker 2: was big last week because my nose was like super 1014 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 2: inflamed because of allergies and stuff. So like you've noticed 1015 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,839 Speaker 2: that right on yourself, Like yeah, like you know when 1016 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: you get that like weird like burning in the tip 1017 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 2: of your nose and like the snot is like pouring 1018 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 2: out of your face. 1019 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, like when I'm sick. I've definitely noticed. Yeah, so 1020 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: it's kind of a similar thing. 1021 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 3: It's like being pregnant must be hard enough, and then 1022 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 3: you have to deal with all this other bullshit too. 1023 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 3: It just seems really unfair, it really is. 1024 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 2: There's there's lots of I had a friend that got 1025 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: a really crazy rash on her arms, being pregnant and 1026 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 2: it left like permanent scarring on her arms. There's like 1027 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things that could happen. That's why 1028 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 2: when people used to be a surrogate, I'm always like, 1029 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,359 Speaker 2: that's like pregnancy isn't considered just like a benign kind 1030 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 2: of condition your body goes under. 1031 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: It's a lot, no, But you. 1032 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 3: Know, there's like people like mo Mom that are like 1033 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 3: I felt the best I ever did when I was pregnant, 1034 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 3: and I just I mean, I haven't been so like 1035 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine that's gonna. 1036 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 1: Be my experience. 1037 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 3: But like I feel like I don't know, you could 1038 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 3: speak for your own pregnancies, but I feel like witnessing 1039 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,240 Speaker 3: you it wasn't like the best experience of your life. 1040 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there were definitely good parts of it 1041 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 2: because I didn't get any headaches the entire time I 1042 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 2: was pregnant, which was awesome. Like I didn't get my 1043 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 2: period obviously when I was pregnant, So those things are 1044 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 2: are always a positive. But like there's just so many 1045 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: other things that happened, like and I was I was 1046 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 2: kind of fine, Like I never got sick with the 1047 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: throwing up and all that stuff. I never had that ever, 1048 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 2: And some people like really go through it and feel terrible, 1049 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: but I was opposite, Like as far as like my 1050 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 2: appetite went, I was never nauseous and like definitely feeding 1051 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 2: for two, if not five. 1052 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,720 Speaker 3: So you were on a big, big meg kick with Lilian. 1053 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, big, like, oh my god, it's just terrible and 1054 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: cupcakes and just like terrible. I gained so much weight, 1055 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 2: and I remember my obstetrician was like, oh, why don't 1056 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 2: why don't we send you to a nutritionist because you're 1057 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 2: we have to see why you're gaining so much weight. 1058 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: And I was just like I eat like two donuts 1059 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: every day for breakfast, and like like I know why 1060 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,879 Speaker 2: I'm gaining weight. There's no one that's going to tell 1061 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 2: me how to change my diet. I know that I can. 1062 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,840 Speaker 1: I just don't want to because I just want to 1063 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: eat everything in sight. It was terrible. 1064 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 3: All right, Let's move on to Questions of the Day. 1065 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 3: Every Friday, at the A Mother Knows Death Instagram account, 1066 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 3: you guys can head over to our story and ask 1067 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 3: whatever you want. First, could you do anything within CSI 1068 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 3: or the lab while being colorblind? 1069 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: So this is a this is actually a really good question. 1070 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: So I believe I went to cytology school such a 1071 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 2: long time ago, back in two thousand. I do recall 1072 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 2: them giving off the color blind test, and I do 1073 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 2: recall it being an issue if you were a colorblind. 1074 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: I didn't have any particular students in my class that were. 1075 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 2: But especially when you're doing cytology and you're looking at 1076 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 2: cells under the microscope and you really need to know 1077 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 2: if because some of the cytoplasm turns different colors in 1078 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 2: certain situations, and you really need to know. You really 1079 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: need to be able to accurately see the colors in 1080 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 2: order to see different changes in the cells. So I 1081 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 2: would say, depending on what kind of color blindness you had, 1082 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,120 Speaker 2: you would not be able to be a cytotechnologist for sure, 1083 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 2: I believe you. I don't see why it would be 1084 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 2: a problem in the other parts of the lab, like 1085 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 2: the clinical laboratory. If you're a medical technologist doing like 1086 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 2: hematology or blood bank or something like that, I don't 1087 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 2: see that being a problem. 1088 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 1: Being a PA, you definitely should be able to. 1089 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: Recognize different colors and the disease process for certain situations. 1090 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 2: But I still don't think that that would be considered 1091 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 2: a deal breaker because you could just see other things 1092 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 2: associated with it. 1093 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. 1094 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we we have to describe the colors of 1095 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 2: things sometimes, but I don't know if it's that that 1096 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 2: that important as it is. Was psychology so and then 1097 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 2: cs I I I'm not sure exactly because I don't 1098 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 2: I never worked in that field. But I'm missing l Yeah, 1099 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: we could, we could ask Cheryl for sure. I'm just 1100 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm assuming no, like you should be fine, you know, 1101 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think that you would be like 1102 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:00,920 Speaker 2: excluded for that. 1103 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: So, but that's a good question. 1104 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 3: All right. If a loved one passed away, would I 1105 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 3: be able to request to keep a tooth? So you 1106 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 3: I listen, if you ever want something like that, you could. 1107 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 3: That would be something that I would recommend that you 1108 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 3: ask the funeral home. I feel like because of what 1109 00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 3: happened with David Scoonce, I don't think they're allowed to 1110 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 3: take teeth. 1111 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: Out anymore now. I don't they could, But that has 1112 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 1: nothing to do with. 1113 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 2: Like, if you have a written permission for him from 1114 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 2: a family, that's why wouldn't they. 1115 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 3: Do that, because then he would fake a written permission for. 1116 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: Who? 1117 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 3: Remember they were taking all the people's teeth out for 1118 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 3: their fillings and stuff. I feel like after that some 1119 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 3: regulation was passed where they're not allowed to remove things 1120 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 3: like that anymore. 1121 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true. I really don't know 1122 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: what happens in the funeral home. I could just tell 1123 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: you we've had a couple of situations like that. 1124 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: People. 1125 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 2: The only thing that we would ever give back to 1126 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 2: a family is like if a person was wearing like 1127 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 2: a wedding ring or something. I would never ever cut 1128 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 2: off a body part and give it to a family member. 1129 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: But we've had requests like can I have a lock 1130 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,560 Speaker 2: of this person's hair or something like that, and we 1131 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,359 Speaker 2: just say, we're sending the body to the funeral home 1132 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 2: and you could deal. They could deal with that, Like 1133 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 2: that's nothing that we would ever do. And I suppose 1134 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 2: that the funeral home has the ability to pull out 1135 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:34,359 Speaker 2: a tooth, but like they really, I mean they could. 1136 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: They could use a pair of pliers, honestly, like it 1137 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,839 Speaker 2: would work. But there's like Maria was talking about this 1138 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 2: case of the Lamb Funeral Home. What was the name 1139 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: of that documentary on Netflix? Yeah, The more Titian on HBO, 1140 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 2: The Mortician on HBO. There's never a situation that I 1141 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: could foresee that a funeral home would have to take 1142 00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 2: out someone's teeth. But also people have sometimes people have 1143 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 2: like a grill, or they have like gold in their teeth. 1144 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: That's that. 1145 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 2: And people might they might have a gold tooth with 1146 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 2: an initial that somebody would want to keep. And I 1147 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 2: don't I don't see what the problem is if the 1148 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 2: family requests that getting that, it just would have to 1149 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 2: be documented properly. And I mean, I'd love to just 1150 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 2: talk to a funeral director and hear some of the 1151 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 2: weird requests that people have, because I'm sure it's I'm 1152 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: sure people have asked for legit body parts, like who knows, 1153 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's just people. People have some weird requests. 1154 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 3: So all right, less, what's an important quality you try 1155 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 3: to instill in your kids? 1156 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even really think about this. 1157 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 2: I obviously I have lots of life lessons. So now 1158 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 2: they're so now they're approaching being teenagers, so like a 1159 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 2: huge one is And I think that this was with 1160 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 2: Maria too. Was just trying to have them have like 1161 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 2: a true establishment of their self and not going along 1162 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 2: with what everyone is going along with which is hard 1163 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 2: because I feel like it's even it's even worse now, right, 1164 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,600 Speaker 2: Like Gabe and I went to the boardwalk recently, and 1165 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 2: you're just like you're walking on the boardwalk and you 1166 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: see all these kids that, like, you don't even know 1167 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 2: where they're from. They could be from around here, they 1168 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 2: could be from Philly, or they could be from another state, town, country, 1169 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 2: even lots of people come from Canada and stuff. And 1170 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: Gabe was just like, all these kids are dressed the same, 1171 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: like from all over because they all they all do 1172 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 2: Pinterest and they all do TikTok and Instagram, so that 1173 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 2: they all like look the same, right, And I guess 1174 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,919 Speaker 2: something could be said about that from it's a little 1175 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 2: bit different than when we were kids. But like, there 1176 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 2: was definitely a part in the eighties where it was 1177 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 2: like everyone was dressing like Madonna and everybody was dressing 1178 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: like Debbie Gibson and all the you know, just things 1179 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 2: like that. But it almost is interesting to think about 1180 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 2: having let's say, for example, back in the eighties, like 1181 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 2: kids from California versus kids from New Jersey, where like 1182 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 2: they all dressed the same and it probably would not 1183 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 2: be the same just because regionally. 1184 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,440 Speaker 1: You only know what you know and. 1185 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: What you see on TV basically, so, but it's not 1186 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: it's not just about the clothes and everything though. It's 1187 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: just about because that transfers over into them when they 1188 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 2: get older, like their friends having sex and their friends 1189 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 2: doing drugs and their friends drinking and stuff. 1190 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 1: And I just. 1191 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,600 Speaker 2: Really try to say that to them all the time, 1192 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 2: just like you do what you want to do and 1193 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: be who you are and don't change for any of 1194 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 2: your friends or to fit in. And I think that's 1195 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 2: that's hard, like a hard lesson, don't you think so? 1196 00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's easier to just go with the flow, 1197 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 3: oh obviously, and just. 1198 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Like stupid things like when and everyone's guilty of it 1199 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 2: to a certain extent throughout their life. And it's just 1200 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 2: like certain things when I got older and I was 1201 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 2: in college and everyone wanted to go to the bar 1202 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 2: and go drinking, and I'd be like, okay, and then 1203 01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 2: I would go and I would just be miserable all night, 1204 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 2: and then I would think something was wrong with me. 1205 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I. 1206 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 2: Really wish like all these people are drinking and having 1207 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,680 Speaker 2: fun and like I'm just like I hate this so bad. 1208 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 3: Why do. 1209 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 2: I hate this so bad, and really I should have 1210 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 2: just been like, you know what, like been honest with myself. 1211 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: That's not for me, and I don't want to do that. 1212 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to stay home when you guys go out. 1213 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 2: I'll be happier being home. Just there's nothing well, but 1214 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 2: like sometimes you're worried that people are gonna like judge you. 1215 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: For that, you know, because you don't want to do that. 1216 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 3: On a similar note to that, because we're very similar 1217 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 3: with drinking stuff, Like it took me until you know, 1218 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 3: my late twenties really in the last couple of years 1219 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 3: to just be like, if I do go out, I 1220 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 3: don't have to drink because everybody else is drinking. 1221 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a it's like a peer pressure thing 1222 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 2: in a way even, and it just it takes a 1223 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 2: lot for you to be strong enough to just be like, no, 1224 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,479 Speaker 2: this is what I want to do, and I don't 1225 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 2: have to do with all you are doing, and we 1226 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 2: could all still hang out and be friends. 1227 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 1228 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 3: Like it's just a matter of like really not caring 1229 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,400 Speaker 3: what other people think of you. And it's hard to 1230 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: live like that. It really is hard to live like that. 1231 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 2: And when you're a little kid like my kid's age, 1232 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 2: it's hard, like you're you're kind of you're desperate for friends. 1233 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Desper you just want to have friends because it's the 1234 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 2: center of your life right now. As friends and who 1235 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 2: they make friends with is very important as to how 1236 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 2: they grow up and who they surround themselves with. And listen, 1237 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 2: We've had a couple of situations where kids have been 1238 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 2: like they just suck and you I have to sit 1239 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 2: there and talk to the kids and just be like, listen, 1240 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: like would you Because Lilian especially has the best friend 1241 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: that like is just the best, right, and she's now 1242 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 2: the comparison for every other person that she becomes friends with. 1243 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 2: When she has problems with other friends, I just say, like, 1244 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,439 Speaker 2: would you fight with so and so like this? Would 1245 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 2: they ever say that to you? Would they ever treat 1246 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 2: you like this? And you just have to There's just 1247 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 2: a lot to teach them about having respect for themselves 1248 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 2: now and what they tolerate and how they tolerate being treated, 1249 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: because I feel like that bleeds into them dating and 1250 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 2: that's when shit could get really bad, like them taking 1251 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 2: shit from a guy or a girl whoever they decide 1252 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,480 Speaker 2: to date, like not being treated well because that could 1253 01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 2: go all the way into adulthood and their marriage and 1254 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 2: everything else. So it's just like it all goes together, 1255 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: you know, And that's like, I guess that's the biggest 1256 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 2: thing is that I just am trying to work on, 1257 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,280 Speaker 2: like them being confident in themselves and like who they're 1258 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 2: being friends with. 1259 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Well. 1260 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 3: On a funny side note about dressing in the eighties 1261 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,080 Speaker 3: and being trendy, I think I want to show our 1262 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 3: YouTube people this picture of momm in the eighties in 1263 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 3: her hair where it looks like she was electrocuted, but 1264 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 3: she claims that it was perfectly on brand and trendy 1265 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 3: for the time. 1266 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 1: But look at this, Oh my god. 1267 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 2: Wait, Like, okay, so how old am I in that picture? 1268 01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 2: I was in That was when she was trying. 1269 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 3: To show the extended picture, so this is you. 1270 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 2: I hated that fricking crown too. So this was in 1271 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. She was pregnant with Louis, which means 1272 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 2: that I was eight years old. 1273 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so. 1274 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 3: She was in that photograph. She's thirty. Put it back up, 1275 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 3: she said, she was thirty. Yeah, she's my age in 1276 01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:49,240 Speaker 3: this picture. 1277 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: Just put it back up. Ricky said, she looked like 1278 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: Marv from the Woods. 1279 01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,680 Speaker 2: Like her hair is seriously a solid six inches. 1280 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 3: If it was the trending hairstyle. 1281 01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's just no way. 1282 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 2: Why does she look better approaching seventy than she did 1283 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 2: when she was thirty? 1284 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Like, really, we. 1285 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 3: Really should do a photo montage of some of her 1286 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 3: best looks. I nobody wanted to do this, but on 1287 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,560 Speaker 3: the cruise, I was like, for dinner, we should do 1288 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 3: the Chris Jenner thing and all dressed like one of 1289 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 3: her outrageous outfits. 1290 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to do that. You know, you should 1291 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: do it with that picture. 1292 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 2: You should put it in like an AI program and 1293 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 2: put a normal haircut on her and be like you, 1294 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 2: like you would have been like the hottest chick ever 1295 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 2: if you just had normal hair. She always let me 1296 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 2: let me see pop up next next to her. He 1297 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 2: looks exactly the same, So he was like, forty up, Yeah, 1298 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 2: he really does look exactly the same. He's just like 1299 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 2: not like collar her. Her head is like bigger than 1300 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,280 Speaker 2: the entire picture. It's outrageous. 1301 01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: I literally cannot. 1302 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like jealous at her hair could even 1303 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 2: get that big, Like. 1304 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Like, what is even happening there. 1305 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,840 Speaker 3: I bet you we get it techulated. That says humpers. 1306 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, she calls she calls us humpers, and that was. Wait, 1307 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 2: I should find that that conversation was like a little 1308 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 2: bit we don't get understand. 1309 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 3: Completely unhinge that conversation. 1310 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: It really was. 1311 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: I'm trying to look for it, like in one of 1312 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 2: our family group chats, like a family group chat. I'm 1313 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,959 Speaker 2: trying to because that was kind of a while ago. 1314 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 2: But oh wait, this might be it. So we don't 1315 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 2: even know where she got that. So she calls us, 1316 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 2: she calls us humpers because we were like making fun 1317 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,959 Speaker 2: of her over something, because my brother and sister also 1318 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,320 Speaker 2: make fun of her all the time too. So then 1319 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,919 Speaker 2: I send her back this screenshot that I took from 1320 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 2: that remember that website Urban Dictionary, and it says humper. 1321 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 2: A morbid, obese man who is obsessed with humping random 1322 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 2: objects around is home. He spends most of his time 1323 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,440 Speaker 2: in his bathroom humping the shower curtain. He also fantasizes 1324 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: about a Hispanic girl named Vanessa watching him as he 1325 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 2: humps the objects. Oh what fun he has? And she right, 1326 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 2: she writes back and puts you ruin everything, like I'm 1327 01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 2: the problem here right now, right? 1328 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 1: It was? 1329 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 2: And then I said, I'm sorry, does it have a 1330 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 2: nicer meeting? And she's like, it's a term of endearment, 1331 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 2: like she claims it's. 1332 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: Some British term of endearment. 1333 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, any anybody from the UK that's listening, please 1334 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,640 Speaker 2: fill us in to what humper means because we have 1335 01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: no idea and it just doesn't sound right coming out 1336 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 2: of an old lady's mouth. 1337 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 1338 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 3: So your guy's favorite guest, Bequall's aka momm calls all 1339 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 3: of her children and grandchildren humpers. A man that humps 1340 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,840 Speaker 3: inanimate objects, shower curtains. Real nice, All right, guys. We 1341 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,920 Speaker 3: will be in crime Con from September fifth to the seventh. 1342 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 3: This schedule is a fish out. You guys have to 1343 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 3: check it out. It is so outrageous. I like, we 1344 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 3: are geeking out over half the sessions. We can't wait 1345 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 3: to be there. If you have a review for us, 1346 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 3: please leave it on Apple or Spotify and subscribe to 1347 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 3: our YouTube channel and send us stories to stories at 1348 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 3: mothernosdeath dot com. Is that where they could also send 1349 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 3: us comments too, Yeah, they could send us their own 1350 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 3: personal experiences comments, whatever they want to that email. You 1351 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 3: know what else too, I want to say like if 1352 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we would like to say your name, if 1353 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 3: you're okay with that, but just like I guess just 1354 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 3: let us know if you want to be anonymous or not. 1355 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: But but yeah, we have we really want to like 1356 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,280 Speaker 3: share some of your stories and stuff, so that would 1357 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:38,919 Speaker 3: be pretty cool. 1358 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will see you guys tomorrow. 1359 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 2: All right, sayah, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. 1360 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 2: As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant. 1361 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 2: I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy 1362 01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 2: and pathology education. I am not a doctor and if 1363 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,920 Speaker 2: not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the 1364 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 2: assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, 1365 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,720 Speaker 2: and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform 1366 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 2: people based on my experience working in pathology, so they 1367 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 2: can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. 1368 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,439 Speaker 2: Always remember that science is changing every day and the 1369 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 2: opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge 1370 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 2: of those subjects at the time of publication. 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