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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Volume podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Norman of the Action Network. Today is

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Speaker 1: our week fourteen episode. We're gonna break down the entire

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Speaker 1: slate of NFL games. We'll discuss our exact decision our

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Pick Them Contest three and two.

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Speaker 2: This week, folks, we bet on.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos last night at minus five and a half

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Speaker 1: specifically because we expected Jameis Winston to give it away. Alas,

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Speaker 1: that is exactly what happened, only not exactly as we

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Speaker 1: saw it plan out. We will unpack that quickly live

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Speaker 1: from our Tommy John Hume Studios. I'm joined as always

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Speaker 1: buying my co host, my companion Mike and Padre my

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think there's a quarterback better to us

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Speaker 3: in the league Chad than Jamis Winston. Like every time

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Speaker 3: we need him to show up for us, he shows

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Speaker 3: up in the biggest way. And I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you remember this, but was it four years ago. We

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Speaker 3: came in twenty fourth place. We basically need to go

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Speaker 3: five and zero in this contest whatever it was. Five

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Speaker 3: thousand people were in it, met Chad needed a five

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Speaker 3: and oh week, and our last game came down to

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Speaker 3: Winston versus Matt Ryan. We had the Landoms three and

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Speaker 3: a half, they're up three. Winston's driving and he threw

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Speaker 3: up pick six to go thirty for thirty in that

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Speaker 3: season with Tampa and got us to twenty fourth place,

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Speaker 3: which was like big money for us at that time.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, Jamis has always been good to us

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Speaker 3: with this pick sixes.

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Speaker 1: So look, we've talked about that. We're going to dig

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Speaker 1: I have very big news, very big news.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready. Yeah, I've mentioned this before.

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Speaker 1: It's no joke when I say that my beautiful bride

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Speaker 1: right way. And Simon, it's a way that I want

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Speaker 1: It's the way that I know Matt Mitchell, and his

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Speaker 2: Did she read the magazine? Never?

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Speaker 1: Did I care, not at all when I said let's

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Speaker 2: Listen to our stuff? Not at all. It's all you need, simon.

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Speaker 1: You just need someone who says yes to the big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just shocked she actually listened to it.

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Speaker 1: apply all right quickly on the Jackson Broncos, because those

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Speaker 1: random and completely predictable. We thought the Jags, with Trevor

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Speaker 1: losing by three. We had it at three and a half,

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Speaker 1: Jamis goes off from nearly five hundred yards four Tuddies

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Speaker 1: has the game of his life. Also two pick six's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all timer and it was It was

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Speaker 3: funny too where they kicked a field goal on Denver

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Speaker 3: what does this mean, like mathematically, like you've lost now

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Speaker 3: It was what I think one play he threw that pick,

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Speaker 3: They score here, it's they're on the first. They're on

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Speaker 2: Guy just throws darts with no fear.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's apparently can't see yeah.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, hold on this just in William

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Speaker 1: Vance of the Denver Broncos. I think he just gave

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Speaker 2: My guess. My feeling is that if the games are going.

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Speaker 1: To play out exactly as we predict, it would be

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Speaker 3: I love It's the greatest sport on Earth, Chad, You'll

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Speaker 3: believe it. Eventually, it's the greatest sport on Earth.

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Speaker 2: So despicable, so hard to watch.

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Speaker 4: It was just unreal. Whinston was down for like four

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Speaker 1: It's like it was just too much because then you

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Speaker 2: So I gotta get up and I gotta do exercise.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm better than this. I know.

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Speaker 1: Early money coming in on the Packers based on the

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Speaker 3: this year. But at this number against a banged up

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, three and a.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm going to land there. New York,

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Speaker 1: This was at Miami minus seven for a hot minute

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Speaker 3: This is your first time, Chad, you know what's happenings.

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Speaker 3: This has been what is a nine straight week seven

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Speaker 3: We've had the Jets be bet on and become the favorite.

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Speaker 1: The Jets have been getting every getting money every single

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Speaker 3: If you go through all the numbers, it's like the

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Speaker 4: They're hitting the slot like they like the Jets.

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Speaker 3: They like them every week and they've just been getting

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Speaker 4: It is one of the more bizarre things because it's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a get right game for Jalen Hurts, right,

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Speaker 1: He has these streaks where he's kind of rushed in

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Speaker 2: That to me is the biggest question for this Eagles team.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday night, he had like guys in his face,

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Speaker 1: Some reality, This Eagles defense has been so dominant the

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Speaker 1: the Panthers defense thirtieth an EPA per play, sixth, then

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Speaker 1: yards per rush allowed, third, most rushes of ten plus

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Speaker 1: yards allowed. So it's possible Saquon runs for five hundred

441
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Speaker 1: yards and crosses two thousand yards for the season and

442
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Speaker 1: wins the MVP in this game.

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Speaker 2: That's the scare. Yeah, but it's on the list. Keep

444
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Speaker 2: it on the list.

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Speaker 1: Here's another one that is on my list of executive decisions.

446
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Speaker 1: And the third one on my list is so ugly.

447
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Speaker 1: I don't even know why I've come to this conclusion,

448
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: but this one is Cleveland at Pittsburgh. Cleveland's at six

449
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Speaker 1: and a half. Look, we made the mistake last week.

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Speaker 1: I won't do it again. You fee Tomlin in this spot.

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Speaker 4: My kids want to have a good Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Division faves of sixty eight points forty eight percent against

453
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Speaker 1: the spread. Tomlin is a fave of sixty eight in

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Speaker 1: the division just eleven and fourteen. The only question is

455
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Speaker 1: did we think this could get to seven? We didn't

456
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Speaker 1: do the right thing last week. We're going to do

457
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Speaker 1: it this week.

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Speaker 4: Please don't talk to me about more victories. Are that

459
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Speaker 4: be disrespectful to those guys in the room. Yeah, I

460
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Speaker 4: honestly don't think it's so.

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Speaker 3: I think this only comes down just because this is

462
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Speaker 3: what you just talked about. This is like a professional

463
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Speaker 3: spot like.

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Speaker 4: We just saw.

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Speaker 3: You know, Jamis have an absolute meltdown on Monday night,

466
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Speaker 3: burned anyone that bet on them, So even if they

467
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Speaker 3: pull the cat bet them last night, they're totally off

468
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Speaker 3: of him altogether. Right, this is going to be all

469
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Speaker 3: the money is going to be on Pittsburgh in this spot,

470
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Speaker 3: and the only people are betting the Cleveland's going to

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Speaker 3: be professionals. And to me, it's really a fade on.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Russell Wilson, like, are we really gonna

473
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Speaker 3: get burned by him? Two weeks in a row of

474
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Speaker 3: him throwing for over three undred yards? Because I do

475
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Speaker 3: think this is another matchups. I know it doesn't look

476
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Speaker 3: on paper like I'll turn to a shootout, but does

477
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Speaker 3: feel like a game that's gonna be in the like

478
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Speaker 3: the high twenties, which you know for these this matchup

479
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Speaker 3: is kind of like a lot of points. The totals

480
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Speaker 3: forty three, you know. I just think James gives this

481
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Speaker 3: team a whole new identity offensively like this. Even last

482
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Speaker 3: night I felt that with that number was like, you know,

483
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 3: that number felt a little little what like high, right,

484
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Speaker 3: like even we bet it it moved to six and

485
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Speaker 3: a half. At five and a half, I felt like

486
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Speaker 3: it was right six and a half, it was like, okay,

487
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: the values there shifted to Cleveland at that point. Same

488
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Speaker 3: thing feels here right like there should be four and

489
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Speaker 3: a half five. You just I mean you're you're saying

490
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Speaker 3: that Bethew six five. It's six and a half, but

491
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Speaker 3: most books is down to six. So yeah, to me,

492
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Speaker 3: I'd grab this six and a half now. I can

493
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Speaker 3: only see this coming down just because it's it's just

494
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Speaker 3: too I have a number for this type of divisional

495
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Speaker 3: matchup in this Like you said, Tomlin, in these games

496
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Speaker 3: for some reason, either lose he's outright, or just play

497
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Speaker 3: it really close and one by three at the end,

498
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Speaker 3: doesn't matter when it was Men Roethlisberger or Mason Rudolph, Like,

499
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Speaker 3: these are just ugly games for Pittsburgh and home divisional games.

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Speaker 4: So I'm with you, Chad. I like the six and

501
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Speaker 4: a half. You know I'll make that.

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Speaker 1: Simon says, I was just gonna say this feels like

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Speaker 1: you want to say. Simon says, I had.

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Speaker 3: Another game I really like, but fuck man, like it's

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Speaker 3: if it's six and a half at bet through six

506
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Speaker 3: y five, I'd grab that now because a lot of

507
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Speaker 3: the books here in Jersey are down to six.

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Speaker 5: When Simon says do it, we do what Siona.

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Speaker 1: I will good, then it forces me to make a

510
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Speaker 1: different decision about exec decision and what I have for

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Speaker 1: the exec decision. I think it will blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: And I like, after I did my research yesterday, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: do I really feel this strongly about this game?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Good?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know it's good, Simon.

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Speaker 1: slash favorites Las Vegas Raiders at Tempt Bay Buccaneers got

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Speaker 1: away with one this past weekend. Had the Panthers against

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Speaker 1: the Bucks at home. If the Raiders don't botch a

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Speaker 1: snap and they kick a game winning field goal against

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Speaker 1: Kansas City and the Panthers don't fumble the ball in

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Speaker 1: Bucks territory, or if they make multiple field goals during regulation,

540
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Speaker 1: or if they score one more touchdown in the red

541
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Speaker 1: zone and the Bucks lose that game, is this number seven?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but I hate that I have to

543
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Speaker 4: bet the Bucks here. It sucks.

544
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Speaker 3: I wanted to be on the Raiders. But wow, such

545
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Speaker 3: a Buck spot where it's like people are overreacting to

546
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Speaker 3: what just happened last week. We just talked about it

547
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Speaker 3: like Bryce Young played out of his mind. Really, if

548
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Speaker 3: you go back and watch you it was incredible. Ain't

549
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: O'Connell is not that guy like that Chiefs game? To me,

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Speaker 3: We've seen it every year with them. It's like the

551
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: flukiest game with the Raiders against that Chiefs team. Like

552
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Speaker 3: even when Derek Carr was there, they'd play these tight

553
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Speaker 3: games where they'd upset this Chiefs team, and then when

554
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Speaker 3: they play against a team like the Bucks, who's like

555
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: a good playoff contending team, they would just get rolled

556
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 3: like this is a bad Raiders team. I'm not letting

557
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Speaker 3: last week throw me off. I know obviously Max Crosby

558
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 3: is a difference maker with that defense, but that was

559
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: like the perfect, perfect lineup game for that Chiefs team.

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Speaker 3: On the flip side, the Bucks had the game from hell,

561
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Speaker 3: but you saw that that they changed, Like we talked,

562
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Speaker 3: the Bucky Irving thing to me is such.

563
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Speaker 4: A game changer for this Bucks team, Like he is so.

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Speaker 3: Good and you know Baker had an awful game, they

565
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Speaker 3: still able to pull that win out.

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Speaker 4: Baker doesn't have back to back terrible games. He just

567
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Speaker 4: has not been that player this season, Like.

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Speaker 3: Usually he's weak the week, and I expect him to

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Speaker 3: bounce back against a terrible Raiders defense here, So another

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Speaker 3: no line, I'll be patient on.

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Speaker 4: Give me six and a half.

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Speaker 3: Let the pub keep hammering this number on this Raiders team,

573
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Speaker 3: because I knew right away when I saw this number,

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, the public is going

575
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Speaker 3: to hammer that Raiders line like they are all in

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Speaker 3: after what just happened last week, But I thought me

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Speaker 3: and you talked about it said more about that Chiefs

578
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Speaker 3: team than I thought it said about that Raiders team.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna be patient her way for a

580
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: better number that Bucks line. But it's six six and

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Speaker 3: a half. I'll take that if you can get an

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Speaker 3: out on the books.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised to hear you say that.

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Speaker 1: I guess you could look at the Raiders game and think, Okay,

585
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Speaker 1: there's two different things here. They had some mishaps in

586
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Speaker 1: the red zone. They really should have scored more points early.

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Speaker 1: It's similar to what we just talked about with the

588
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Speaker 1: Jags and with the Broncos, right, sort of everything you

589
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: expected to happen happened in that game, only instead of

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Speaker 1: it happening through the course of the game and competency,

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Speaker 1: it happened in miraculous moments through two different plays, one

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Speaker 1: to brock Boers, one to I forgot who the other

593
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: receiver was on long throws from Aidan O'Connell was yeah, Tucker.

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Speaker 1: That got them in the end zone and sort of

595
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Speaker 1: made the game closer and sort of erased a thirteen

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Speaker 1: point deficit. Maybe you're right, I mean, I don't have

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Speaker 1: a strong opinion about this game.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if it's again we avoid, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: mad either, because we hate taking huge favorites. But it,

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Speaker 3: you know, it just feels like a kind of spot

602
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Speaker 3: where it's like this is the Bucks are gonna be

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Speaker 3: undervalued in the spot.

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Speaker 1: To me, I love the Baker Mayfield narrative that's happening.

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Speaker 2: I love the way he plays.

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Speaker 1: I love that he's waving off trainers when he's getting

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00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: his ankle stepped on, and that he's balling out in

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Speaker 1: every game, and that this Bucks team loves him so much.

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Speaker 1: And I love that now that there was all these

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Speaker 1: flag planting brawls yea in college football this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: everybody is asking Baker for his opinion, and yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: not even blanching. He's like, teams need to learn how

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Speaker 1: to take an l You want to plan a fucking flag,

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Speaker 1: plan a flag and fucking deal with it, losers.

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Speaker 4: I just.

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Speaker 2: I love Baker.

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Speaker 3: I love him too, But it is funny. Like I

618
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: was with my cousin and she doesn't not watch much football.

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Speaker 3: I had explained to her that he was taken before

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, who's just like a god among men. I

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Speaker 3: was like, you don't get it. He went to like

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Speaker 3: a normal school. Josh Allen went to Wyoming like no one,

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Speaker 3: No one goes to Wyoming becomes the best quarterback on football.

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Speaker 4: But I'm with you. I love Baker.

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Speaker 3: But the outside world you're just like, who is this

626
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Speaker 3: little guy that's got this little attitude. I'm just like,

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Speaker 3: if you love this sport, he is one of the

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Speaker 3: best quarterbacks and he's just hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's great.

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Speaker 1: You know it's not great. Jacksonville in Tennessee. Tennessee is

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Speaker 1: a three and a half point favorite. I don't really

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Speaker 1: have anything here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm happy to avoid it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Phil, yeah we should, we should

635
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Speaker 1: play the Jags, but I feel.

636
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Speaker 3: Like, definitely play the Jacks if you have to, like

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Speaker 3: in your pick contest, you had to make a pick here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Tennessee they've just burned people all year being favorites.

639
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Speaker 3: I mean I remember even earlier the year they had

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Speaker 3: a bunch of different matchups. That one that really jumps

641
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Speaker 3: out WI always be. I still can't believe we took

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Speaker 3: Tennessee against Malik Willison Green Bay, Like.

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Speaker 4: That was one of my worst bets of the year.

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Speaker 3: Thinking Tennessee was a smart move because they're going into

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Speaker 3: backup in Green Bay. They're just they're just terrible. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: you figure they'd bounced back here. That's what the books

647
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Speaker 3: are saying. But yeah, if I have to make a

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Speaker 3: pick on this line, I'll take the plus three and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm very curious your take on this game.

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints are five point favorites at the New

652
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Speaker 1: York Giants. This line movement got crazy wacky. Opened it

653
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Speaker 1: for Sunday Night, immediately bet down to three and a half,

654
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Speaker 1: and then right around when the Rams Saints game ended,

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Speaker 1: it got that up to four four and a half,

656
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Speaker 1: then five down to four and a half again in

657
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: some places like this is kind of fun to me.

658
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: The Giants will clearly need to run the ball to

659
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: win this game. The Saints gave up the second most

660
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: yards per play on the ground Tyrone Chase Tyrone Tracy.

661
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Giants running back other than you know the cover killing

662
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: fumbles has been averaging five yards per carry. Only one

663
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: team gives up more yards per play on the ground

664
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: than the New Orleans Saints.

665
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Are you ready for it? The New York Football.

666
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: Giants across every metric. The Giants are the worst rushing

667
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL, and the Saints have been excellent

668
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: the ball. However, when I dug a little deeper, most

669
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: of that success is really about Taysom Hill, and when

670
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: he's been out, this team has really struggled offensively more.

671
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: It's really as much about him.

672
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: As it is Derek Carr. I don't know why, but

673
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: this is my executive decision. Take the Giant.

674
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 4: What is New York Giants?

675
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

676
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 6: Oh my god, my god, no, no.

677
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: No, you know, Dexter Lawrence is out for the year, right,

678
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 4: he's on the I R.

679
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: What if I tell you I forgot before I said

680
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: that I knew it and I forgot.

681
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's a big it's a big deal.

682
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: I think that's a mistake on my part.

683
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't, don't, don't take this one.

684
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: You got better.

685
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 4: Thank God.

686
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Yesterday I had convinced myself that I was taking the

687
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Giants like I'm like, I'm a genius.

688
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: I do love with the angle of it. It was

689
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: my same view last week.

690
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: Like again, if they didn't have that pick six, they

691
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: probably cover or win that game against Dallas, Like they

692
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 3: weren't awful in that game, but that was really about

693
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: it being a divisional game Thursday. You're just thrown it

694
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: all against and it still don't work out for him here.

695
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: But to me, the decks are laune injury is just

696
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: too much to overcap.

697
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: Like, I'm totally totally yeah, thank you. Wow, that could

698
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: have been bad. Well now I just want to go

699
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: back and take Cleveland, but I'll have to move on.

700
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: But you like my theory otherwise I do.

701
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 3: I think it's actually like a smart play like that

702
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: that Saint's team. Both these teams are going to be

703
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: quit on the season. I mean, let's be honest, like,

704
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 3: I don't know who's quit more. But yeah, at this point,

705
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: I would just take the Giants because who the hell

706
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: are the Saints to be catching five against anybody there?

707
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 4: They're a terrible team.

708
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Well that's my theory.

709
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Either way, I'm putting them on the list just in

710
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: case you're sick. Atlanta Minnesota, Minnesota minus five. A month ago,

711
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: the Falcons were six and three. Kirk Cousins had thrown

712
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: for twenty three hundred yards, seventeen touchdowns, seven picks, don't

713
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: forget eight hundred of those yards and eight of those

714
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: touchdowns came in two games against the Bucks. Since then,

715
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: Falcons on went three losses to New Orleans, Denver and

716
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Kirk has thrown six picks sacks seven times,

717
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: does not have another touchdown pass.

718
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: Yes, we joked about I told you I felt like

719
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: everyone in Joe Public in the world was going to

720
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: be on at land here now. I was just going

721
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: to have to take the Vikings because it's like the

722
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: revenge whatever their mentality was for backing them and believing

723
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: once again in this Falcons team. I'm just totally off Kirk.

724
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: I've been off Kirk, like I just weeks ago. I

725
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: noticed he just does not look right, and everyone's coming

726
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: around because that was so egregious that loss, right, I mean,

727
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 3: if they just put Pennis in the second half, they

728
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 3: win that game, right, kicking field goals like that. The

729
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: Chargers had nothing going offensively, they were totally out of it,

730
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, four picks, It's just it's inexcusable. So it's like, Okay,

731
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: I guess they're bouncing. They're betting him to bounce back.

732
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: But you kind of just talked about it, like other

733
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 3: than those two really big games. He's not been good

734
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 3: this season, Like he's been below average, which is not

735
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: what he should be on that offense. Like then one

736
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: of the better blocking offensive lines. They have great running backs,

737
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: you know, Drake lennoncop Pits. I mean, they're to me

738
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: good receivers, you know. I maybe it's the number that's

739
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 3: throwing me off here because it is high. But it's

740
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: like this Vikings defense that likes the blitz and move

741
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: guys off their spots. That's Kirk's biggest weakness right now.

742
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: If you move him at any discomfort in the pocket,

743
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: he folds right now, or he throws agregious picks like

744
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: he just throws into the terrible coverage.

745
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: And that's what the Vikings thrive on.

746
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 3: And now they're going to against guy they know better

747
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: than anyone else, right someone this team has seen him

748
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: practice for all those years. So it's like, man, it's

749
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 3: if this becomes like you know, if this becomes a

750
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: game that stays below six, I mean you were trying

751
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: to figure out favorites here, Obviously I'd like this more

752
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 3: than the Bucks. Like, I just really like the Vikings

753
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 3: in the spot. It's all about what kind of number

754
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get here. So it's another number I bet,

755
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: and it's actually gone up at certain books.

756
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 4: It was four and a half, it's back up to five.

757
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

758
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: As long as it stays blow six, I think it's

759
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: a good number of the Viking team. It's just it's

760
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: all baud right now.

761
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 4: For Kirk.

762
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: I just if it was, you know, a different matchup,

763
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 3: maybe I'd give him some of the benefit of the

764
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: doubt here, But the fact that it's going against his

765
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 3: Vikings defense that's just been so good this year, I

766
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: just I can't get around to taking his side.

767
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: So, uh, you mentioned some really good points. He's facing

768
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: a defense Kirk is that is fourth, and sacks third,

769
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: and QB pressure second and blitz right, all the stats

770
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: that back up what you were just saying about his

771
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 1: lack of comfort, And a lot of people would say, well,

772
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, Bijon is having a great year, and he is.

773
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: He is much better this year than he was last year.

774
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: The Vikings top rank defense for rushing efficiency, top rank

775
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: for defending rushes inside the tackles, number two defending rushes

776
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: outside the tackles. In my notes, you just said you're

777
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: thinking about this number, and like, why isn't it higher?

778
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: That is exactly what I wrote in my notes. I'm like, what,

779
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 1: this number feels too low.

780
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: It was like it's you know, I'm overthinking it, but

781
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: it's like, what, this is a weird number.

782
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: Clearly I was misreading my notes and I meant this

783
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: was my exact decision, not blow it. I was confused

784
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: by the order in the schedule and the spread, but

785
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: I really met Minnesota minus five, not New York Giants

786
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: plus five. This is my exec decision, the choice between

787
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: the unthinkable and the impossible?

788
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 4: Are you haavy an executive decision? This feels like the

789
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 4: same thing with the Bills.

790
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: Like last week, we both loved the Bills and it

791
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: was really all about the spot and how this was

792
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 3: a bad matchup for the other side.

793
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 4: It feels the same thing for here. This is just

794
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 4: all really bad matchups for this Atlanta team.

795
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: So hopefully we have the same results as that Bills game,

796
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: where it's just like you clearly saw one team was

797
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: great against the one team was great against, defending the

798
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: run and running the ball down team's throats. This week,

799
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: this matchup we just talked about. It's ken Kirk survived

800
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: that blitz.

801
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: He is not.

802
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 3: He struggled all year against it. We think the Vikings

803
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: defense will dominate this matchup.

804
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm excited.

805
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: This is my executive decision because much more than the Giants,

806
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: much more than the Giants, because nobody's yelling at me

807
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: in the chat. Yeah, while I'm making the player.

808
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: I love it.

809
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: Matt Mitchell slowly becoming unhinged by our terrible picks.

810
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: It's great.

811
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell is getting for so many reasons. Matt Mitchell

812
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: was getting grumpier and grumpy.

813
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: The man that that's the under eighty last night gets

814
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: mad at us.

815
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: He's got so many more reasons to be grumpy. It's

816
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: just lovely, Matt. You and I can talk about this

817
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: in our one on one this week.

818
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 2: Times stop speaking. How come you won't let America hear

819
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: the whole story?

820
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: Who's pocket are you in?

821
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: Well? This whole thing is a travesty and a sham

822
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: and a mockery.

823
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: It's a Travis sham mockery.

824
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: Seattle at Arizona. Arizona is a two and a half

825
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: point favorite in this game. Do we think Seattle's defense

826
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: is better than Arizona's.

827
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: I'll give Seattle defense respect.

828
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: They've definitely gotten better's got along where they were a

829
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: team that I was just like, I thought it was

830
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: fluky a couple of their matchups. I was like, ah,

831
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 3: it was kind of what the teams are playing. But no,

832
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 3: they've they've been really good down the stretcher, and we

833
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: we kind of heard that that was going to be

834
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: the part right of their head coach. It was like,

835
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: it's going to take a while to learn his defense,

836
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: and we've seen that here. But this is another game

837
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: where like it was plus three on Seattle, why wouldn't

838
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: I take that number?

839
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: Right? I don't know if you feel the same way.

840
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: It's these teams are pretty damn even like they're they're

841
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: good and they can move the ball offensively, but they're

842
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 3: terribly inconsistent and they've had a bunch of games.

843
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 4: Both both of.

844
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: Them have had games where they've easily could have won

845
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: or lost. And that they're sitting here now this is

846
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: going to decide their division, right, This feels like this

847
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: game here, the winner here is kind of, you know,

848
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: gonna have to control of their own fate. So Arizona

849
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: minus two and a half, Yeah, Chad, you could talk

850
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: me into it. But once it's three I'm going to

851
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: take Seattle at that number.

852
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: It feels like a no lean for me.

853
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Home division faves of less than three forty against spread

854
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: the past twenty years, So like, I don't feel strongly

855
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: about this game. I like, you know, amazingly. I like

856
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Miami minus six and a half. I like Minnesota minus five.

857
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: I like that games we have in there more than

858
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: I like this one.

859
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some games this week now it's like it's

860
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: pretty kind of the number, but it's I really don't.

861
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 4: Want to get that much action on it. They're just some.

862
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: Of these teams are who we think there, which is

863
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: just heavily inconsistent, like from week to week.

864
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Then there's the Chicago Bears. They're playing the San Francisco

865
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. There are four point dogs on the

866
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: road in San Francisco. Look, if you like the Bears,

867
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: I hope you got them. On Sunday when we talked

868
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: about it, they were.

869
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: At six and a half.

870
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy.

871
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: Now it's four and probably headed to three and a half.

872
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 1: Everything is on the Bears.

873
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: Hungry Bears are violent Bears.

874
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: I think one team is feeling relieved they got rid

875
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: of their head coach. That the players hated. I mean,

876
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: the unpacking of this the past few days as a

877
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: Chicago sports fan has been like revelatory. It's been interesting.

878
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: It's been everything that we thought it was, only nobody

879
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: would say it. And now that it's over, everyone's getting

880
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: to see the truth, which is that Eberflus was a

881
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: bad coach who the players didn't like. And then one

882
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: team is wondering what happened to its season, And now

883
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's on the IR again, probably out for the year.

884
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason hiss backup who had rush for almost a

885
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his place, he's on IR, likely done

886
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: for the year. Like at some point the value on

887
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 1: the Bears I think is gone, but I'm not dying

888
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: to bet this game.

889
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 5: Now.

890
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: And like Trent Williams might be back, but he's dealing

891
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 4: with a lot of.

892
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: Stuff going the off field right now. We think of

893
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: him obviously in his family, like he's going through hell and.

894
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: And he has, and like he's been day to day

895
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: for two weeks.

896
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 3: He's injured, right And it's like they only could take

897
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: so much. As we always talk about, this was a

898
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: team that was very top heavy, right, there were stars

899
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: and scrubs and with all these stars out there just

900
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: nowhere near the same team they were last year.

901
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: And.

902
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 4: Party is totally out of.

903
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 3: His comfort zone like he is. You know, he's fought

904
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: through injuries as well, but with all those weapons going on,

905
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: this offensive line up being what it is, you can

906
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: just tell he's not obviously.

907
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 4: The same player as he was these past two seasons.

908
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: So that Bears number six and a half, that was like,

909
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: what in the world is this number?

910
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

911
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: It really was, and it sucks it's come down because

912
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: I already knew this week the professionals were in the Bears.

913
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 3: They've been on the Bears every week for the last

914
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: feels like four weeks, so you knew they'd be on it.

915
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: I thought, Okay, the San Francisco forty nine Ers, even

916
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: if they lose by fourteen, I still think the public

917
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: would come on their side. They have totally jumped ship

918
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: on this team, like the public and the professionals now

919
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: on this Bears team. So in a normal year, me

920
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: and Chad would hammer this forty nine Ers team because

921
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: this is just the spot to take them. This is

922
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 3: what you backed the books here. But this has not

923
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: been a normal year. I mean even last night, like

924
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: the books desperately needed the Cleveland right, all the money,

925
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: every teaser in the world was tied to that team

926
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: and it didn't hit. Same with that Bills game, like

927
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: they desperate need the forgy Ires even close.

928
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 4: It was a blow.

929
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: Like we've just seen this year, their favorites have been

930
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: kind of prosper in the spot.

931
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: So yeah, the public side, it's Joe public.

932
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: It's I know the Bears right now is but right

933
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: now to city right now, I'll take it. But I

934
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: know I'm gonna get some cause about this one chat

935
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: because I do think the number of money is it

936
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: might have moved too much at this point and maybe

937
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: where we've missed the value on this Bears team and

938
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: the value has shifted to the forty.

939
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: Nine ers, but it's still three and a half. It

940
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 4: feels like, isn't there still value there? Maybe have three.

941
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: I can shift it in line on myself and say no,

942
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: this might take the forty nine ers. But they feel

943
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 3: like a team that's totally quit on the season because

944
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: everything that's going on with the Bears every week, they've

945
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: been in it down to the last play and it

946
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: just has not broke their way. Right these last couple

947
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: of weeks. So yeah, I'll take the Bears here. They

948
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: deserve their respect to have this three and a half.

949
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: Well, look, the Bears are certainly gonna be rejuvenated by

950
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: the fact they got rid of their coach, by the

951
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: fact they feel there might be some competent decision making

952
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: in the two to three times when you need it

953
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: the most from your head coach, game management, clock management, timeouts,

954
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: et cetera. They just haven't had that right, and so

955
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: they've been playing at a disadvantage. Are they going to

956
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: be so psyched, have such a good attitude, they're not

957
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: going to get down.

958
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: From bad mistakes. You're not wrong.

959
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: This team has been fighting to stay in every game

960
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: despite playing with an anchor around their ankles as their

961
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: head coach, right, I mean, they just have he makes

962
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: so many bad decisions. So it's really interesting to me

963
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: that so many people are buying into that narrative, which

964
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: to me is when you got to fade it, like right,

965
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: any other year, You're right, we're hammering the Niners at

966
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: this point. If you think about the contest, it's going

967
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: to be three and a half in the contest, So

968
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: we just you know, whatever, we wanted to get to

969
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: in real life, and I'd like to get so I

970
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: can't play the Niners. It's gonna be three and a

971
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,479
Speaker 1: half in the contest, and I would I would hate

972
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: to play the Bears here. I think I think we'd

973
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: be miserable playing the Bears here.

974
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just think.

975
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 3: I just think it's yeah, you're right, You're right, you

976
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: probably would be you know.

977
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough.

978
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: It's tough, especially because I'm the douche sitting here on

979
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: the six six and a half tickets where it's like, oh,

980
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: I could just not even bet this one. Now, I

981
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 3: already got the good number on the Bears, but we

982
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: don't play that here. So yeah, I'll definitely have more

983
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: info in this come Thursday. But right now, as we

984
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: sit here, I'm with you, it feels like I'm walking

985
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: to a trap. But I can't help myself taking the

986
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: Bears here.

987
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating. You're not wrong about rock Party either.

988
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: What a difference it makes not having Brandon at Yuk. Yeah,

989
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, that was the guy he was always throwing to.

990
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: So you need twenty yards. I was this guy, you know.

991
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: Like they've got nobody who can get s operation between

992
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: aw Yuk and McCaffrey. Those were his safety blankets. That's

993
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: where the majority of his passes went. And all of

994
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: a sudden, the guy who led them to an NFC

995
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: Title Game and his Super Bowl in his first two

996
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: seasons and has a big contract coming up. Now you

997
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: got to wonder is he going to get a max deal?

998
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Who's going to pay him? Like, what's this deal going

999
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: to look like?

1000
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: I know, talking to people that work in the organization.

1001
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: John Lynch midway.

1002
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: Through the season was kicking himself not moving off debo

1003
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: like they were trying to move him before the season.

1004
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 3: He thought, you know what, I'll keep the band together

1005
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: one more year and then we'll trade him next year

1006
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: because they're tied Ayuk now for years to come. And

1007
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: Deebo's value was just the bottom of the barrel. Now

1008
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: that guy, he is not that good right now.

1009
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: Get out early.

1010
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: That's the mantra, Get out early, Buffalo at the Los

1011
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams.

1012
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 2: The Rams are four and a half.

1013
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Look, this was a decent move off of the Sunday

1014
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: Night Superman performance by Josh Allen. It opened at three

1015
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: and a half to bet the bills at three and

1016
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: a half. Now it's at four and a half. You

1017
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: made a great point on Sunday night. The Bills don't

1018
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: tend to lose these kinds of games. I interpreted that

1019
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: as them being a favorite in the spot where you

1020
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: normally like.

1021
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: To take a dog, So I looked it up.

1022
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: Allen is a favorite of more than three fifty five

1023
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: percent against spreading, his career on the road fifty seven percent.

1024
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Against spread.

1025
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: We talked just the matchup too right.

1026
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: We were saying this Bill's team, their identity of running

1027
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 3: the ball down, team's throats. You saw it there on

1028
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: Sunday night, like it's incredible how Joe Brady's transformed that offense.

1029
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Where I feel like such an idiot, even though I

1030
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: did take their overcoming the season, it was just.

1031
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 4: Like, how did we doubt that offense with Josh Allen?

1032
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: Goosh Allen?

1033
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 2: Gosh alert here with Josh Allen.

1034
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 7: He's a football player through and through, and there we go,

1035
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 7: drugs to excuse me?

1036
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 5: Touchdown?

1037
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks have you ever seen hurdle anyone?

1038
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 4: Goodness, there's no.

1039
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 5: Fear, no ways down going.

1040
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1041
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: The demand is to do something about this out of

1042
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: regeous Man making louder and louder.

1043
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 4: He's so good, he's so unique.

1044
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he should be the MVP favor right now.

1045
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean, this is it's lined up perfectly to their

1046
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 3: Their division is so bad. If they can just survive

1047
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 3: these next five weeks and get that one seed, get

1048
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: Kansas City to come to Buffalo, It's it's just so

1049
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 3: lined up for them this year, Like, how do they

1050
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 3: not make the super Bowl this year?

1051
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 4: This Bills team, I just you know, I love.

1052
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: Their defense while they're playing, but offensively, I'll never have

1053
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: fear when they're down, Like they're just gonna be a

1054
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: team that's never dead because they're just so in sync

1055
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: right now offensively, and Josh Allen's went at such a

1056
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: high level. So yeah, wanted to be on the Rams.

1057
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:08,959
Speaker 4: I joked.

1058
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: I've lost a small house betting the Rams this season,

1059
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna be sucked. And even though this

1060
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 3: is another spot that stinks, like this number of stinks,

1061
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how the Rams are gonna cover it.

1062
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: The books they they believe the Rams are going to

1063
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: somehow cover this summer, but I'm just totally off with

1064
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: this where it's like, I think it's all because of Stafford, though,

1065
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: this number is what it is, if it's if it's

1066
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: not all the respect we give to him, this number

1067
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: is easily six six and a half. Stafford has not

1068
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 3: been the Stafford of the like the past. He's been

1069
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 3: terribly inconsistent this season and like he goes on little runs,

1070
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: We'll play great for a quarter, maybe get a couple

1071
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: of touchdowns, and then he'll just disappear for two or

1072
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: three quarters. He's just been so inconsistent this year. And

1073
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: this Bills team, I get it. They people expect him

1074
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: have a letdown game here and I totally view that that.

1075
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to be on the Rams here.

1076
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you not have a letdown game?

1077
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 3: But with them chasing that one Sea chat and just

1078
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: how locked in Josh Allen is, I just I can't

1079
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 3: see it. So there's a couple of fours out there,

1080
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: if you still want to grab it, I would.

1081
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: I just I think this Bills team is so good.

1082
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 3: On the flip side, this Rams team, we've seen it.

1083
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 3: They're just not that team we thought they were gonna

1084
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: be coming this season. Doesn't matter that they have, you know,

1085
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: two of the best receivers in football in a really

1086
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 3: good running game. They just aren't consistent offensively and defensively.

1087
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: They can't stop the run. We even saw it last week,

1088
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: like Taysom Hill going out was a gift for them

1089
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: because he was running all over them, him and Kamar.

1090
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, totally off this RAMS team. I would buy

1091
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Speaker 4: on this bill.

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Speaker 1: Spot past block and for the Rams is the issue.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about this specifically on Sunday Night.

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Speaker 2: What you just said.

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Speaker 1: Stafford goes on these little streaks, but eventually they have

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Speaker 1: that sack at the exact wrong time, or they can't

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Speaker 1: get that extra yard at the exact wrong time because

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, even though they finally have all their

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Speaker 1: starters back, it's just been terrible this year.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I sold some seat. Last week was the

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Speaker 3: first time in the base coaching career he was shut

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Speaker 3: out in our first half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you.

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Speaker 3: Should go through the list of the quarterbacks he scored

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Speaker 3: points with in the first half in his career.

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Speaker 4: It's just something's wrong with that Rams offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think they're good against bad teams, and they can

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Speaker 1: get away with it against bad teams, but mediocre tore

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Speaker 1: great teams, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: What's interesting here with the bills.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they're a huge public side, but it's the money,

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Speaker 1: meaning the professionals have come in hard on this team.

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Speaker 1: Sixty one percent of the tickets are on Buffalo eighty

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Speaker 1: four percent of the money. When there's that big of

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Speaker 1: a discrepancy, that tells you that the public is obviously

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Speaker 1: coming in. But the professionals have been coming in at

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Speaker 1: a very high rate on the Buffalo bills, so they'll

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Speaker 1: be on there.

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Speaker 4: The three and a half was a bad number to open.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Hey, folks, a reminder.

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Speaker 1: We've got the Favorites podcast watch party on December twelfth

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Speaker 1: coming up fast. It's nine days from today. A week

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Speaker 1: from this Thursday, we're going to the Wicked Wolf in

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Speaker 1: Center City, Philadelphia. We're doing free drinks, qan and A

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Speaker 1: with me and Simon. Matt Mitchell will be there too.

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Speaker 1: People can ask him why he's so grumpy lately. Doors

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Speaker 1: open at six pm. We're all gonna stick around and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna watch the Thursday night football game between these

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Speaker 1: Rams who we love and the Niners. It's turning into

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Speaker 1: a fantastic matchup. We're all gonna want to hang out

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Speaker 1: for this. We're gonna bet, We're gonna have a few drinks,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a conversation. We're gonna have a really

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Speaker 1: episode description pages. Simon and I are tweeting it out,

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Speaker 1: we're threading it out, we're blue skying it out. Wherever

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Speaker 1: you are, we will be there and you will all

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Speaker 1: be with us. At the Wicked Wolf in Center City, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: December twelfth, doors open six pm. Chargers of Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chargers were four and a half on Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: We liked it.

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Speaker 1: Then they moved to four at bat three sixty five.

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Speaker 1: They're at three and a half at a lot of

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Speaker 1: other books. I think we still take the Chargers at

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Speaker 1: plus three and a half, and that's sort of the

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Speaker 1: line in the sand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously we both love the way more four and

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Speaker 3: a half because this game is going to come down

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Speaker 3: to the very end, just the way they've always played

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Speaker 3: each other.

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Speaker 4: It's always very tight and comes down to the last possession, and.

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Speaker 3: The fear here is something you kind of nailed last

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Speaker 3: week that I underrated a little bit of that.

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Speaker 4: JK.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins was, you know, a difference maker for that Chargers team,

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Speaker 3: like he really was.

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Speaker 4: You saw last week that was by far the worst Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Game of the season against an Atlanta defense is not

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Speaker 3: that good, certainly not on the level of this Kansas

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Speaker 3: City team. You expect this Kansas City team to bounce

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Speaker 3: back after their worst defensive performance of the year in

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Speaker 3: my opinion, and back to back weeks. Right, they struggled

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Speaker 3: against Carolina, They just struggled against the It's.

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Speaker 4: Like, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: It's like this is not the Bags defense were used to,

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Speaker 3: especially at this point in December. So it is really

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Speaker 3: mean you trusting the numbers and the fact that this

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00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: Chiefs team just plays games close, especially these Chargers games,

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Speaker 3: where it's like, even when they were much better than

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: this Chargers team, you know, Herbert always find a way

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Speaker 3: to keep it close and lose always in the last possession.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he always loses somehow on the last possession

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Speaker 3: against this Chiefs team. So I don't know if I'll

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Speaker 3: be in our money line around Robin the Chargers, but

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Speaker 3: at four three and a half, I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: Ched I would take still the Chargers at that number.

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 3: This line should just be three. We're getting good value here.

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00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: We'll see if the books keep shifting it. Because you know,

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Speaker 3: we both knew Sunday night this was going to be

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00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 3: a heavy public siding professional side of this Chargers team.

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00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 3: Just yeah, everyone was watching that Black Friday's game and

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00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: they're totally off this Chiefs team. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: a week of the pundit saying lines too many injuries,

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Speaker 3: they're they're done for the season. This is the banged up,

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00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: bad Chiefs team. They're not the same Chiefs teams last

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 3: year at this exact point. This Chiefs team last year

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 3: was even worse. It's just a week of everyone's shitting

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Speaker 3: on this Chiefs team. So that's kind of the fear

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Speaker 3: right chat. It's like, at what point this plut perception

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 3: overrate and they adjust too much of this Chiefs team.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they have yet this point. Like we

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00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: just said, this number should be three, it's four, Go

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Speaker 3: grab the four.

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Speaker 2: A lot of injuries for this Chargers team, not just JK.

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: Dobbins. I think that is a big deal. They do

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Speaker 1: not have an effective running back on the roster. Right now,

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Speaker 1: and their only receiving threat is lad McConkie, so a

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Speaker 1: lot of challenges for them. I actually worry more about

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Speaker 1: their injuries than I do about the Lions, because the

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00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Lions have I think more offensive firepower whereas and the

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Speaker 1: cluster of injuries for the Lions as comps, because both

1203
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: teams have a lot of injuries is on defense, whereas

1204
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers have a cluster of injuries but a key

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: positions in the defensive backfield, along the defensive line, in

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00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: the in the offensive backfield, different spots. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a it's not a guarantee that

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Speaker 1: we want to take the Chargers. Last time on the board,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Dallas. Dallas is at five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I liked the Cowboys on Sunday night, and try as

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Speaker 1: I might, I still don't hate it. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the defense is getting better with Micah Parsons and the

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Speaker 1: Bengals pass blocking is just fucking terrible, like bottom five

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Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get un our five.

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Speaker 2: It's not an exact decision, but I still don't hate

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I don't either.

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Speaker 3: It's just our fear here is if if this does

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Speaker 3: turn into a shootout, we're probably cooked. Right, There's there's

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Speaker 3: no world that Cooper Rush to keep up with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: But you just said it like this is who the

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00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: hell are this Bengals seem to be catching this many points.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if it is Cooper Rash. It's like, okay, if.

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Speaker 3: It was three and a half, that would make sense

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Speaker 3: that five and a half, and you liked it at six,

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Speaker 3: which I agreed with. I was like, okay, it's six.

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 3: This is a good number. Unfortunately, the professionals agreed with Chad.

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Speaker 3: They bet this now it is five and a half.

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Speaker 3: I'll pass on it now and just hopefully it goes

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00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 3: back to six. And if it doesn't get to six,

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00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 3: you know, I know, I've gone to talk to myself

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Speaker 3: and it taken Dallas just because this number is too big.

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Speaker 3: But for contest purposes, I wouldn't put this in less

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Speaker 3: those six and a half.

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Speaker 1: The professionals always agree with Chad. It's like a recurring

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00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: theme on this show. Other than when he's not remembering

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Speaker 1: the Giants not having their most dominant player on defense,

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Speaker 1: he's generally pretty sharp.

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Speaker 4: Locked in.

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Speaker 1: Well said and so few words, all right, Simon says,

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Speaker 1: is Cleveland plus six and a half, exec decision, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: minus five and a half. We're feeling fox holy.

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Speaker 4: We'll right at Minnesota. You can get you go five

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Speaker 4: right about three six five?

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Speaker 2: At what did I say from Minnesota? I said five

1247
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Speaker 2: and a half? I meant five.

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Speaker 1: We're feeling fox holy about Miami at minus six and

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