1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: You don't know me. Concession I can't take back. Earl 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: armst mouse speak text to seven eighty five nine two says, hey, mom, 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: can you pick me up at four point thirty today 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: instead of three point thirty? 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: I've got to stay late to finish a group project. 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 3: Do you have to text up for some back that 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: we're not their parents? 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: Either they texted a wrong number or somebody's got a salacious, 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: dark after school homework assignment that their mommy can't know 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: about me. What the heck? 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: That was so weird? 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what's really going on in that random 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: person's life. Yeah, you can text them back after this 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: if you want, Brooke, you're their mom's reason. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: Good job. 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: But listen, if you have a legit secret that you 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: want to get off your chest, you can do it 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: right here on the Mass speaker while we hide your identity. 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: And we've got a listener ready to come clean who's 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: chosen to use the fake name Suzanne today. So Suzanne, 21 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: welcome to the show. 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Hey, thank you. 23 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 4: Did you also forget to pick up your kids? 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: Not yet? 25 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: Well, the voice changer is on. You are the mass speaker. 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: Whenever you're ready, Suzanne, let's hear your confession. 27 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 5: Okay, So I have two kids right now, one in 28 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 5: fifth grade and one in third grade. And what I'm 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 5: about to tell you I haven't confessed to anyone before now, 30 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 5: not my family, not my girlfriends, just near people. 31 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: Your husband doesn't even know. 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: I mean, the girlfriends are more shocking than the hospital now. 33 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: Okay, And the only reason I'm willing to do this 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 5: is because you change my voice. 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, swink, No, we did, we really did. Yeah, really, 36 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: you're You're safe. Nobody knows who. 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: You are, okay, because I just don't want the judgment 38 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 5: because what I'm doing work. 39 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I'm taking out paper and pins. 40 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: No Brook, no judgment today. 41 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: No, I'm following advice. 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah possibly, what's going on? Why do you want to 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: stay anonymous? 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: Well, the thing is, I feel like kids today for 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 5: the most part, they grow up too soft, like everything 46 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: is given to them and no one is ever allowed 47 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: to say just get over it and power through. Everybody 48 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 5: wants to be a gentle parent and some time in 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 5: my house okay, no judgment. But the kids then grow 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 5: up and reach their twenties and like gen Z, everybody's 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 5: helpless and needs a therapist. They don't have any skills. 52 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: Shots fired at gen z Alexis. Sorry, I don't have 53 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: a toxic superiors. 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Do the healthy thing like Brook and let your children 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: sleep in your bed with you until they're thirteen years old. 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are still breastfeeding. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: You are sixteen, oh more than Merrier. 58 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: Okay, so wait, what are you doing it tough with 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: your kids up? 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 5: Okay, So I just don't want my kids to be 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 5: that way. So what I do is just two or 63 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 5: three times a month, they'll go to school and I 64 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 5: will intentionally not pack them a lunch. And the reason 65 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 5: is at lunch time, their little fingers will open their 66 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 5: backpack and look inside and they'll see that their lunch 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: box isn't there. There's no food, and they need to 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 5: problem solve and figure out how they're going to eat 69 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: that day. 70 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: Do you give them money to get lunch from the school? 71 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 5: No, this is real world stuff. You're gonna be faced 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 5: with lots of things you weren't prepared for that aren't 73 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 5: handed to you. And so I'm hoping they learned to 74 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: get resourceful. 75 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay. 76 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: For some reason, three or four times a month, the 77 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: teachers are like they're acting out being the belligerent. 78 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, they're hungry, Like, what are you hoping happens while 79 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: they're at school? 80 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 5: I'm hoping they learn to get resourceful and it is 81 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 5: only two to three times a month, so. 82 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: They just turned into little trash pandas going through the 83 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: garbage to fight. 84 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: Leftovers or what. 85 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: It's like. It's like the show Man versus Wild, but 86 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: this is the wild of the cafeteria. 87 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: I mean because my kids elementary school, they're not allowed 88 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: to share food. 89 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, because there could be allergies that other 90 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: kids don't know about. 91 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of reasons. 92 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: Why do you think they're developing allergies? 93 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Brook? 94 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Gentle parents, That's what it's all about. 95 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I need to pull up the word toxic, 96 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: like I already had a kid. What do your kids do? 97 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you said that, you've been you've done this a 98 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: few times. What have you learned from your kids? What happens? 99 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: I've been so impressed by them, So this is what's happened. 100 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 5: First of all, they've traded personal items like pencils and 102 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: squishies for chips or an apple with classmates. 103 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: With classmates whose parents made them lunch. 104 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: It's survival brother another time, and this when I don't 105 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: approve of they stole from another child's lunch box. But 106 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: if you're in survival mode, you do whatever it takes. 107 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: And that half a tune of sandwich helped my son 108 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 5: power through the day. 109 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: There may be a more healthy way to teach them 110 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 4: how to be respected. 111 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: I could just ask them to make their own lunches 112 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: in the morning. 113 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: Okay, at hell, I'm sorry both of the ladies in here. 114 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: Do you remember when she said no judgment is what 115 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: she wanted. 116 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: We're just trying to offer her some maybe yeah healthy, I. 117 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 5: Mean, Brooke, I honestly thought you would approve. You've said 118 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 5: on here that you sometimes don't give water. 119 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: Oh that's true, you say, listen, I don't deny my 120 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: kids water. We went on one little hike and they 121 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: were like they was in the Sahara desert. 122 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: If they wanted to have carried their own water, they 123 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: were more than welcome. 124 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: To you sound exactly like her. 125 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: No, I don't you. 126 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: Sure do if she wants to do that, Like Lexus said, 127 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: let them make their own lunch and responsibility. 128 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely and preparedness. 129 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: And they get fed. 130 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 3: Hasn't this ever backfired. 131 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 5: Honestly, aside from the time that they stole No, they 132 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 5: get home in the afternoon and we say, how was 133 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 5: your day, And on the times they said, Mom, you 134 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 5: didn't pack our lunch, I'll go, oh, no, forgetful, mommy, 135 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: I'm so sorry. 136 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: What did you do? 137 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 5: And they sit down and they're proud of their ability 138 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 5: to figure it out and see themselves. 139 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, that's amazing. You've You've raised children who can 140 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: fend for themselves when they're in a tough position. I 141 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: would have gone home crying to her mother, give me 142 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: my lunch. Mom, this is your faults. 143 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 3: Give me future Netflix documentary kids are. 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Parents of the Year. I agree. 145 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 5: I mean, my kids are going to be ready for 146 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: the real world. While all these coddulet kids are booking 147 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 5: therapy appointments crying after their extended yoga sessions. 148 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: I think your kids will also be in therapy. It 149 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: is not a bad thing. One day, my kids won't 150 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: even get hungry. 151 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: I don't know that we necessarily are one hundred percent 152 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: supportive of your methods, but the thought behind you to 153 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: understand the logic. Clearly, your heart's in the right place, 154 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 2: why you're. 155 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Doing it well. 156 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: Thank you. 157 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: You are welcome. 158 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: That's a good note. Kids coming home without his sandwich. 159 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: You'll know what kids stolen, or you. 160 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: Won't because we kept her anonymous. So you are welcome 161 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: for that. Suzanne, thank you for your motherly wisdom and 162 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: text in to seven eighty five nine two. If you 163 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: have a confession you've been holding on to weeken Hydra identity, 164 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: mask your voice and make you our next mass speaker. 165 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: Your phone TAP's coming up right after this. 166 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.