WEBVTT - Boo Birth Control!!! Comstock Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. Hey, filth heads, So I lie to you.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I'm not doing another Bedfellow's head Fellows episode today,

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<v Speaker 2>And that was the past few episodes where we were

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<v Speaker 2>looking at different people throughout history, throughout American history who

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<v Speaker 2>might have been a little bit gay. But the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing the episode today is because we're actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do it at our first American filth live recording.

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<v Speaker 2>A drum roll, that's a terrible drum but yes, we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do the next Bedfellows Headfellows episode live. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fun. So if you're gonna be in Atlanta, Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, June twenty ninth, come out to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be at this fun little venue called Dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>El Dorado, and there will be history, frivolity, antics, bad jokes,

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<v Speaker 2>some good jokes, stand up, even improv is.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 2>The ticket link is in the show notes, or if

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<v Speaker 2>you visit us on Instagram at American Filth Pod you

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<v Speaker 2>can find all the information there. And yes, I will

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<v Speaker 2>be reminding you over the next few weeks in the

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<v Speaker 2>episodes might even be a little annoying about it, so

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<v Speaker 2>please come out on June twenty ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be fun. But now we're gonna move on to.

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<v Speaker 2>Another juicy, totally not controversial topic, birth control.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys heard of this?

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<v Speaker 2>People have been trying to avoid having babies since the

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<v Speaker 2>dawn of time. Literally, like even at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the universe, the universe was like, just because I did

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<v Speaker 2>a big bang, that doesn't mean I want.

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<v Speaker 1>A big baby.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the type of bad joke that will probably

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<v Speaker 2>be included at the American filth Live event anyway. But

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<v Speaker 2>also since the dawn of time, people have had very

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<v Speaker 2>strong opinions about birth control, big opinions, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the conversations we have today we've actually been having

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<v Speaker 2>for hundreds of years. There's always been a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people being like, yeah, you should only have sex for

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<v Speaker 2>the purposes of having a baby, not for the lols,

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<v Speaker 2>not for the pleasure doo. We must suffer, and especially women,

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<v Speaker 2>especially people with uteruses, because they are whores. And one

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<v Speaker 2>man who tried to get rid of people's access to

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<v Speaker 2>contraceptive devices was this little Christian boy named Anthony Comstock.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so Christian that he worked at the Young

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<v Speaker 2>Men's Christian Association for a while aka the YMCA, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fun that that was a Christian organization

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<v Speaker 2>because later it became the spot to go to if

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<v Speaker 2>you were trying to cruise around and pick up another

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<v Speaker 2>gay man. Wow, everyone's gay. It's all related. But Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Comstock's also funny.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Comstock. Suck.

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<v Speaker 2>We're well stocked with com anyway. Near the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth century, Comstock became the crusader against American obscenity.

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<v Speaker 1>And birth control. Mm mmmm mmm.

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<v Speaker 2>That is for sinners, And in eighteen seventy three, Congress

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<v Speaker 2>actually passed the Comstock Act, which affected birth control, which

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<v Speaker 2>affected art, which changed the censorship landscape in America forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean for a long time. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Cue the theme song. This is American Filth. I'm Gabby Watts.

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<v Speaker 2>Every week I tell you a filthy story from American history.

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<v Speaker 2>This week's episode come Come, Come, Come, Come, Come Stop

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<v Speaker 2>Part one. Sorry, guys, I was imagining it kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like shots shots, shot shots, shot shots. But colm anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. Ah, filth heads,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna believe this, but we're actually gonna break

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<v Speaker 2>format yet again.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's gonna be fun, I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into the American history stuff, we thought

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<v Speaker 2>that it'd be interesting to hear some more about birth

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<v Speaker 2>controls throughout time, many of which have been very filthy

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<v Speaker 2>and gross. And so I actually have my pal slash

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<v Speaker 2>colleague slash, one of the American filth writers, Julia Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Gao here, Hey, hey, Julia.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up? Oh, hey, what's up? I'm glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, crazy, you're on the show now, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you feel?

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<v Speaker 3>Very excited?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our seventeen to thirty six listeners are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be thrilled to hear about these things.

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<v Speaker 3>So stoked. It's gonna be so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Julia, have found a bunch of relatively well

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like unbelievable sort of birth controls people have

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<v Speaker 2>used throughout history. So we're going to go through some

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<v Speaker 2>of those. Like, you know, there was literal shit in

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<v Speaker 2>some of them. So yeah, here we go a brief

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<v Speaker 2>history of the filthiest versions of birth control.

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<v Speaker 4>A Hippocratic text, probably the earliest one circle like four

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<v Speaker 4>hundred BC, used to recommend drinking copper and salt mixed

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<v Speaker 4>with water and yes, It's true copper does mess with

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<v Speaker 4>sperm's motility, but it also messes with your body by

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<v Speaker 4>like poisoning it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, would men drink this one?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, women, it was always right, okay, good well, thank goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>we've always been the ones had to be responsible, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So another one was then after that was in ancient China,

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<v Speaker 2>people would mix.

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<v Speaker 1>Lead and mercury. Mmmm, it encaged. You didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 2>Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that is heavily regulated today

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<v Speaker 2>because it messes up your brain. But back then, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>dudes were like, hey, maybe this could also prevent pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 2>and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Mess you up so much that there's no way your

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<v Speaker 4>body could be a place where a baby could grow

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<v Speaker 4>if you have a bunch of mercury in it. So

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<v Speaker 4>in eighteen fifty BC, there are reports of people using

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<v Speaker 4>crocodile dung like actual hoop from a crocodile and honey,

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<v Speaker 4>and the acidity of the dung acted as a spermicide.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they were like, honey is antimicrobial, so it

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<v Speaker 4>kills the bacteria from the dung.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that was not true.

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<v Speaker 4>They would though, sort of like coat the dung in honey,

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<v Speaker 4>and that would act as like a physical.

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<v Speaker 3>Barrier aka lube. They would lube it up.

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<v Speaker 4>With some honey, and then some cultures even added acacia leaves,

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<v Speaker 4>which actually does ferment to create a sort of spermicide.

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<v Speaker 1>But none of these.

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<v Speaker 4>Were safe or effective whatsoever. There was lots of bacteria,

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<v Speaker 4>lots of infections.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a good thing to do use poop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this just sounds like a uti. Just give yourself

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad uti.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so painful, Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Then we have like the ancient Greeks, they use

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<v Speaker 2>a giant type of fennyl like plants as an oral contracept,

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<v Speaker 2>and by one idea, it became so popular that it

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<v Speaker 2>was worth more than its weight in silver.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then eventually that plant went extinct because too

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<v Speaker 4>many people were using it, because too many people were fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's the constant throughout history is just

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<v Speaker 2>people stay fucking no matter what people do.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's sort of moral too, of the

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<v Speaker 1>story that we'll get.

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<v Speaker 3>Too later exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people will always everybody poops and everybody fucks. So

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<v Speaker 4>the Greeks, because it went extinct, they had to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of pivot. So this one dude, suggested that as the

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<v Speaker 4>male ejaculates quote, the female must hold her breath and

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<v Speaker 4>draw herself away a little so that the seed may

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<v Speaker 4>not be hurled.

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<v Speaker 3>Too deep into the cavity of her uterus.

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<v Speaker 4>Very Greek, very dramatic, then getting up immediately she should

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<v Speaker 4>be squatting down. She should induce sneezing and carefully wipe

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<v Speaker 4>the vagina all around.

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<v Speaker 2>It is kind of like an opposite like pull and prey,

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like the woman has to pull herself out

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<v Speaker 2>into the man pulling himself out.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, basically, so hopefully he pulls out, and she has

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<v Speaker 4>to also just like draw herself into a corner squat

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<v Speaker 4>and try and induce sneezing to like queep out all

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<v Speaker 4>the sperms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, queeth out the sperm. That's what I've always been saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. And then there was also the Greeks.

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<v Speaker 2>What they would also do is they would they would

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<v Speaker 2>use lead concoctions that blacksmiths would provide, so then instead

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<v Speaker 2>of mercury, you would be drinking like run off from them,

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<v Speaker 2>making armor and blades a little like iron juice exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you're anemic, that might be good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, getting that iron shut your iron in similar to

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<v Speaker 4>the to the inducing sneezing. While squatting. In tenth century Persia,

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<v Speaker 4>women were told to jump backwards like seven or nine times,

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<v Speaker 4>because those were sacred numbers seven and nine. So the

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<v Speaker 4>women that we're doing this, we're hoping that God would

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<v Speaker 4>intervene and thwart the convergence of the sperm and the egg.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you jumped eight times, heaven forbid, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'd get triplets.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know they could count that high back then. That's pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well counting the new innovation, yeah for real. Ooh, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we got into the eleventh century, is that we

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<v Speaker 2>got the crocodile dung is being substituted for elephant dung.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in the Middle Ages fifteenth century or so,

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<v Speaker 4>they would use animal dung along with juniper berries and

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<v Speaker 4>tar because that was a thing. And then they would

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<v Speaker 4>take this concoction and instead of like putting it on

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<v Speaker 4>the penis, using it as loub doing that whole thing,

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<v Speaker 4>they would just smear it all over there vagina before

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<v Speaker 4>intercourse and after intercourse.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, going beyond the dung stuff, though, women in

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle Ages were advised by magicians.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the first red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Being advised by magicians to tie weasel testicles to a

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<v Speaker 2>tree during intercourse, and if the testicles weren't available, they

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<v Speaker 2>would tie an amputated foot around their neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's apparently that's going to prevent pregnancy, because this

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<v Speaker 2>one seems more of like a ViBe's based contraceptive. Where

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<v Speaker 2>before you know, you had sort of like this physical dung.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the magician's like this is some magic.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, and then these sort of like the feet

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<v Speaker 4>and the testicles started to be packaged. So this ambulets

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<v Speaker 4>sort of started to become popular to be worn during intercourse,

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<v Speaker 4>and they could do to your like sometimes tied around

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<v Speaker 4>your thigh, sometimes tied around the tree outside your living space, super.

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<v Speaker 3>Magical, super woo woo.

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<v Speaker 4>And these these amulets would contain things like cat bones

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<v Speaker 4>or the liver or the anus of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Rabbit, the two choices, the two body parts.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and a cloth soaked with menstrual blood. And if

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<v Speaker 4>you're using a cat for these cat bones in your amulet,

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<v Speaker 4>it has to be all black.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Alternatively, if you didn't want testicles or amulets or anything,

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<v Speaker 2>you could walk in circles around the place where a

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant wolf has urinated.

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<v Speaker 1>That was another choice you could do.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like there's a variety of sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>you can have sort of like a device, or you

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<v Speaker 2>can kind of like do a process, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So then by the late sixteen hundreds, fish bladders emerged

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<v Speaker 4>as a very very popular form of birth control, which is,

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<v Speaker 4>if you can imagine it, it's like you know thin,

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<v Speaker 4>its durable, little effect on sensation, and they were especially

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<v Speaker 4>used at first among the soldiers of King Charles.

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<v Speaker 2>The first ooh, this is kind of sounding like a condom,

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<v Speaker 2>a condom that's emerging.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, So before they would use them, they would hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>clean the bladder, hopefully clean the bladder thoroughly, and tie

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<v Speaker 4>it at the end with a ribbon, basically.

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<v Speaker 3>Creating the first condom.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh. Unlike modern condoms, though, these fish butters were often reused.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, a sustainable option. That is actually our new American

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<v Speaker 2>filth merchandise. You can go to Americi dot common. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just kidding, guys, we don't have that yet. So while

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the primary contraceptives for like seventeenth century England,

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<v Speaker 2>the ancient Romans, though they might have also had a

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<v Speaker 2>condom type thing where they used intestines and bladders as

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<v Speaker 2>protection from STIs. So that was smart, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess yeah, you see guts, You're.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I could put that on my dick exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're like, hmm, that looks like I could make

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<v Speaker 4>something else out of it. And then around that same time,

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<v Speaker 4>in seventeen hundreds, this guy actually named Giovanni Casanova, he

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<v Speaker 4>invented his own version of a cervical cap with a lemon.

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<v Speaker 4>So I feel like this is like sort of common

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge when you and I were growing up a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit like that. Sometimes people just like shove a lemon

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<v Speaker 4>up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's just me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you grew up.

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<v Speaker 2>In a bohemian New York city. I was down here

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<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't do shit like that.

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<v Speaker 5>At that's true. I never did it, but I heard tell.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, So this is basically the emergence of like

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<v Speaker 4>what we recognize as like the first kind of cervical cap.

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<v Speaker 3>And you basically it's.

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<v Speaker 4>A partly squeezed half a lemon and it's inserted into

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<v Speaker 4>the cervix before intercourse.

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<v Speaker 5>And of course the level of acidity was very damaging

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<v Speaker 5>to his lover's bodies. But who cares if it works

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<v Speaker 5>right as long as he's getting what.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs exactly. Boo women, That's what I'm always saying. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't worry birth control. It got even more grim

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<v Speaker 2>during the fur trade era of the eighteen hundreds, women

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<v Speaker 2>from New Brunswick, Canada would drink dried beaver test skull

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<v Speaker 2>soaked in moonshine. No one really knows the rationale for this,

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<v Speaker 2>except that bieber testicles were often used to cure common

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<v Speaker 2>colds and other ailments. I'm sure they cured them, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the testicles contained a very potent smelling substance, and

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<v Speaker 2>the smell itself might be enough to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive your partner away.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a great way not to get pregnant, is

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<v Speaker 2>to smell bad and nobody wants to be around you.

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<v Speaker 4>But towards the end of the Industrial Revolution, though, finally,

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<v Speaker 4>in eighteen forty four, that good old good Year patented

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<v Speaker 4>the volcanization of rubber. I like the tire people, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for the tires, Thanks for the all the rubber

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<v Speaker 4>things that are birth control related.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in eighteen forty six, a diaphragm was patented

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<v Speaker 4>and called the wife's protector. So yeah, of course, through

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<v Speaker 4>all this time, avoiding pregnancy also involved. But stuff masturbation, abstinence,

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<v Speaker 4>and coitus interruptis basically pulling out uh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then eventually there is douche powders, positories, vaginal pessories which.

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<v Speaker 1>Are like early iud's, and all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Those came about and remained part of the home contraceptive conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have you know, to this day, there's

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<v Speaker 2>different things you can use, of course, but there is

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<v Speaker 2>also still a lot of coitus interrupt us less dung though,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like overall, oh lot less dune. Yeah, there's other things

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<v Speaker 3>you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, safe at BET is to just not touch anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, right, I forgot about that. I forgot about

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<v Speaker 4>that as an option.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Have you heard of this thing?

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<v Speaker 2>It's called abstinence, And here on American filth we are

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<v Speaker 2>teaching abstinence.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never known obstinence, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this Uh, Julie's gonna come back in after the break.

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<v Speaker 2>But now we're going to learn a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>the trends of what was happening in the comstock era

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of birth control. So when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the US and the nineteenth century, between the eighteen thirties

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<v Speaker 2>and eighteen seventies, there's actually a lot of information out

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<v Speaker 2>there about different types of contraceptive devices. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of books that were published on the subject. There were

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<v Speaker 2>traveling doctors and lecturers who would tell young women about

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<v Speaker 2>different types of devices. In fact, there was so much

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<v Speaker 2>information out there about birth control that in the eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixties there was this New England doctor who said, there

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<v Speaker 2>is scarcely a lady in New England, and probably it

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<v Speaker 2>is so throughout the land who did not receive information

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<v Speaker 2>on contraceptive instrumentalities. Of course, though in the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>people weren't just being like.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, birth control, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever people would try to advertise birth control or talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, they would use coded language. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>would say things like, oh, we're cheating nature or frustrating reproduction,

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<v Speaker 2>or m did you hear about.

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<v Speaker 1>These secrets not known to animals?

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<v Speaker 2>And many of these products through birth control were actually

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<v Speaker 2>advertised in magazines and newspapers with this kind of coded language,

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<v Speaker 2>and often what would happen is women would see these ads,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they would send a letter to the address

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<v Speaker 2>provided and then they could receive their birth control in.

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<v Speaker 1>The mail.

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<v Speaker 2>And to kind of get how prevalent birth control was

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteenth century. From the beginning of the nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>century to the end, the birth rate among US born

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<v Speaker 2>whites was almost cut in half. And this is where

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<v Speaker 2>Comstock comes in. See in the late eighteen hundreds, in

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<v Speaker 2>the wake of the Industrial Revolution, New York City was

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<v Speaker 2>booming with industry and commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks from more rural areas were like, looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I got to move to the big city to

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<v Speaker 2>make some money, and so NYC saw an insane influx

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<v Speaker 2>of humans urbanization, industrialization, and out of this emerged what

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Historical Society called an anonymous booming subculture

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<v Speaker 2>of dealers, buyers, and sellers in obscene materials. And some

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<v Speaker 2>of those obscene materials included ads and literature about birth control.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of the prude elitists of New York

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<v Speaker 2>City did not like that this information was out there,

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<v Speaker 2>and in eighteen seventy three, the New York Society for

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<v Speaker 2>the Suppression of Vice was founded by our guy, Anthony Comstock. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he had previously worked for the YMCA. He was also

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<v Speaker 2>a special agent and inspector for the United States Postal

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<v Speaker 2>Service and was appalled when he saw that women were

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<v Speaker 2>sending and receiving birth control merchandise through the mail. So

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Comstock founded the New York Societ for the Suppression

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<v Speaker 2>of Vice. Its goal was to suppress the trade in

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<v Speaker 2>and circulation of obscene literature, illustrations, advertisements, and articles of

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<v Speaker 2>indecent and immoral use. He was like, anything dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>birth control, contraceptives, abortion, all of that stuff is obscene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pornographic, and my Doom Patrol needs to go confiscate

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<v Speaker 2>and destroy all of it. Then Comstock went before Congress

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<v Speaker 2>and was like, guys, did you know that all this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is being mailed all over the place. We need

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<v Speaker 2>to do something to stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, have you.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen how the birth rates of white people are going down?

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<v Speaker 2>We need to make sure people are having more babies.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't need any contraception yuck. And Congress was like, ugh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, fellow white dude, you're right. So they

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<v Speaker 2>passed the Comstock Act, essentially making birth control illegal, and

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<v Speaker 2>Congress put them in charge of enforcing these new law.

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<v Speaker 2>So Comstock was like, hell, yeah, I can start arresting people.

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<v Speaker 2>One person he arrested was author Ezra Haywood, who was

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<v Speaker 2>a feminist and wrote a book called Cupid's Yokes. This

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<v Speaker 2>book took a stand for women having their right to

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<v Speaker 2>control their own bodies, and Comstock was like, that's obscenity.

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<v Speaker 2>And Ezra had mailed a copy of his book to

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<v Speaker 2>one of his friends, and then Kumstock went and arrested

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<v Speaker 2>that guy too. At first, while Comstock was overjoyed with

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<v Speaker 2>his success, most of the country was like, ugh, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>so just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to New York for birth control.

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<v Speaker 2>But then twenty four other states enacted their own versions

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<v Speaker 2>of these laws, and people were getting arrested left and right,

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<v Speaker 2>facing fines and imprisonment. There are records of married couples

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<v Speaker 2>facing punishment for using contraceptives.

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<v Speaker 1>In their own home. In eighteen seventy eight.

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<v Speaker 2>The National Liberal League and the National Defense Association presented

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<v Speaker 2>Congress with a petition signed by over five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people requesting a repeal of the Comstock laws.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, the law's anti.

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<v Speaker 2>Obscenity provisions have been enforced to destroy the liberty of

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<v Speaker 2>conscience and matters of religion against the freedom of the

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<v Speaker 2>press into the great hurt of the learned professions. But

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<v Speaker 2>Congress was like sorry, they were refused, and these laws

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<v Speaker 2>went unchecked for a long ast time. The first successful

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<v Speaker 2>change came in nineteen sixteen when Margaret Sanger was arrested

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<v Speaker 2>for opening the first birth control clinic, and the law

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<v Speaker 2>case I grew out of this situation resulted in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighteen Crane Decision, which allowed women to use birth

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<v Speaker 2>control for therapeutic purposes my favorite therapy not having a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>After all that, Sanger didn't give up.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, hey, the Comstock laws are still really

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<v Speaker 2>bad and super unethical. So then another amendment was made

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty six that made it possible for doctors

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<v Speaker 2>to distribute contraceptives across state lines. So thanks Margaret Sanger,

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<v Speaker 2>except for the fact that she also.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved eugen X.

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<v Speaker 2>But as we were talking about earlier, it seems a

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<v Speaker 2>thread throughout human history is that humans will try just

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<v Speaker 2>about anything to prevent pregnancy, from crocodile dung to beaver piss,

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<v Speaker 2>to weasel balls to fish condoms. So even though Comstock

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<v Speaker 2>was like no, no, no, no, we shan't have any

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<v Speaker 2>of this birth control mess, people were still like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we got an idea for you of how you could

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<v Speaker 2>prevent pregnancy. In one company circa nineteen nineteen saw an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to make some cash. Yay capitalism. This company made

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<v Speaker 2>cleaning products and thought, well, our products killed germs, so

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we could tell people that they also kill sperms.

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<v Speaker 2>So using the euphemism of feminine hygiene to sell these products,

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<v Speaker 2>Liesol for decades was heavily advertised as a viable form

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<v Speaker 2>of birth control.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you heard that right, Lysol.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll be right back after these soothing advertisements. So

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<v Speaker 2>I recently used Lysol to clean out my tub. But

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<v Speaker 2>in the early to mid twentieth century, Lysol was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you should use our products to clean out your tub

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<v Speaker 2>down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm using the tub as a euphemism for vagina, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true. Throughout the twentieth century, Lysol launched some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>serious marketing campaigns encouraging women to douche with their cleaning product.

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<v Speaker 2>On the surface, they were like, ah, do this to

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<v Speaker 2>control your feminine odors, But really what they were trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say with this was, hey, you can use this

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<v Speaker 2>as a birth control and when they were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>our product kills germs, what they were saying is it

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<v Speaker 2>also kills sperms even if they are hiding in deep

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<v Speaker 2>crevices aka your vagina. And Lysol is like, so, yeah, gals,

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<v Speaker 2>go get some lysol and then make sure you douche

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<v Speaker 2>with it after you have intercourse. And let me just say,

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<v Speaker 2>in case you were thinking about mixing up your birth

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<v Speaker 2>control options, I'm just gonna say, lysol is not.

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<v Speaker 1>A good option, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to have even harsher chemicals in it that

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<v Speaker 2>could cause skin irritations, cramping and blistering, burning coma, and

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<v Speaker 2>even death. And yes, women were dying from lysol douches.

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<v Speaker 2>Like in nineteen eleven, one hundred and ninety three people

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<v Speaker 2>got poisoned from lysol, including five women who had died.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of douching with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And those were just the ones who reported their symptoms.

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<v Speaker 2>And who can we in part thank for this gross

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<v Speaker 2>misrepresentation of Liesol's uses. Well maybe mister Comstock. By censoring

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge about birth control and making contraceptive devices illegal, this

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<v Speaker 2>led to everything going underground. People started seeing more unlicensed doctors,

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<v Speaker 2>quack doctors, and started using products that were super harmful

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<v Speaker 2>to them. Can you believe it? Limiting access to birth

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<v Speaker 2>control doesn't stop people from trying to get birth control

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<v Speaker 2>and actually leads to dangerous health practices. Who would have thought,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it wasn't just Comstock who we have

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<v Speaker 2>to think? Like, the FDA, for example, didn't give two

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<v Speaker 2>shits about female troubles. So when Lysol hopped on the

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<v Speaker 2>market being like, Hey, we'll treat your vaginal smell aka

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<v Speaker 2>kill germ slash sperms, they didn't say anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that did happen was in nineteen twelve, the

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<v Speaker 2>Council on Pharmacy and Chemistry of the American Medical Association

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<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, Lysol and other companies who make disinfectants,

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<v Speaker 2>we suggest that you don't tell consumers to put your

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<v Speaker 2>products into their bodies. The Lysol was like, uh, no thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>And so for decades to come, Liesol continued marketing itself

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<v Speaker 2>to women as a birth control option, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a primary birth control method until the nineteen sixties, when

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<v Speaker 2>the first birth control pill was released on the market,

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<v Speaker 2>and finally, by the end of the nineteen sixties, birth

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<v Speaker 2>control was decriminalized, but that was just for married people.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until the nineteen seventies when single people could

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<v Speaker 2>use birth control. But here on American filth, let's have

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more fun. We're gonna get Julia back

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<v Speaker 2>on because she found some of Lysol's advertisements that they

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<v Speaker 2>used throughout the twentieth century, and some of them they're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty amusing, but amusing in that sort of way where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, ah, my soul hurts, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So Julia, okay, tell us about some of these ads.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, there's so many that it was hard to choose

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<v Speaker 4>which ones I wanted to describe to your sweet ear drums.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>One of them features a woman trying to open the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Superimposed on the door are these locks, and each lock

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<v Speaker 4>is labeled one is doubt, one is inhibitions, and one

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<v Speaker 4>is ignorance.

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<v Speaker 3>And her face has this.

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<v Speaker 5>Look of like sheer, utter, like pain and frustration, and

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<v Speaker 5>in huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Letters, the headline says, please Dave, please don't let me

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<v Speaker 3>be locked out from you Lisol. Liesol clean away your doubt, inhibitions,

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<v Speaker 3>and ignorance. Yeah, it's not even subtle, No, it's not subtle.

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<v Speaker 4>They basically were saying, like, if you're not clean or

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<v Speaker 4>you're not trying to prevent pregnancy, then your husband is

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<v Speaker 4>not going.

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<v Speaker 5>To love you. So I'm going to read a bigger one,

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<v Speaker 5>a longer one, But this one features a woman. It

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<v Speaker 5>looks like she's standing in like a pool with her

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<v Speaker 5>hands like fully raised like ruefully to the sky, like

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<v Speaker 5>she's cursing the sky, very Greek, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 5>looks like she's prepping for like a synchronized swim routine.

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<v Speaker 5>It's got like the cap on and the sweet like

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<v Speaker 5>pin up bathing suit.

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<v Speaker 2>And a necklace in full makeup, yes, a pearl netourse

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<v Speaker 2>and full makeup.

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<v Speaker 5>And it says, uh, too late to cry out in anguish,

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<v Speaker 5>beware of one intimate neglect that can engulf you marital grief.

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<v Speaker 5>And then the article reads too late when love has

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<v Speaker 5>gone for a wife to plead that no one warned

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<v Speaker 5>her of danger. Because a wise, considerate wife makes it

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<v Speaker 5>her business to find out how to safeguard her daintiness

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<v Speaker 5>in order to protect precious.

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<v Speaker 3>Married love and happiness. One of the soundest ways for

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<v Speaker 3>a wife.

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<v Speaker 5>To keep married love in bloom is to achieve dainty

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<v Speaker 5>allure by practicing effective feminine hygienes such as regular vaginal

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<v Speaker 5>douching with reliable Lysol. Germs destroyed swiftly is like a

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<v Speaker 5>little side note headline, Lysol has amazing proven power to

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<v Speaker 5>kill germ life on contact truly cleanses the vaginal canal,

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<v Speaker 5>even in the presence of mucus matter.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess by mucus matter they mean ah sperms. I

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<v Speaker 2>also just think it's like they were. It's very subtle

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<v Speaker 2>that it's like birth control, but it does seem that

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<v Speaker 2>the the main issue is a vaginal smell. And I

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<v Speaker 2>like how that's on the hierarchy of what is important

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<v Speaker 2>to people's bodies.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's important to a marriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yes, it's one of the pillars of marriage is trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Vaginal smell? Love, I guess is important love?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, I guess, I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>And then, okay, here's one that really pissed me off

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<v Speaker 4>to it's the headline.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you always want to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's like this couple that seems to be like

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<v Speaker 4>leaving a party and they're like in a fight. She

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<v Speaker 4>has a very furrowed brow and he's putting her coat

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<v Speaker 4>on reluctantly, and it says a familiar pathetic figure the

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<v Speaker 4>wife who always gets tired and leaves the party before

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<v Speaker 4>anyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>So often it's her own fault.

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<v Speaker 4>No woman who has a normal foundation of good health

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<v Speaker 4>can be forgiven for failing to stay young with her husband.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what the fuck does that?

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<v Speaker 4>Even?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't young and fun and flirty, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>now it makes you not young and fun and flirty

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<v Speaker 2>having a baby or being pregnant.

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<v Speaker 4>Be sure you get the facts about feminine hygiene. Send

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<v Speaker 4>for the free booklet offered below. It contains the facts

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<v Speaker 4>and simple directions you must have. It was written for

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<v Speaker 4>a woman by a woman physician. Fads in personal antiseptics

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<v Speaker 4>come and go, but the number of women who use

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<v Speaker 4>Lifesyl disinfectant is increasing at a greater rate today than

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<v Speaker 4>ever before.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, thank.

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<v Speaker 3>God, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 5>Their business is booming because everybody wants to douche.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to poison my pussy, Thank.

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<v Speaker 5>You, thank you very much, And then says, don't experiment,

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<v Speaker 5>don't be misled by false theories, make no mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Only a poison can kill germs.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let's hear just one last ad.

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<v Speaker 4>This one says caught in a web, and it's like legit.

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<v Speaker 4>A man sitting reading a newspaper grumpily. He's like sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there annoyed, reading his stupid newspaper, and there's a gigantic

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<v Speaker 4>spider web behind him, and behind the spider web is

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<v Speaker 4>a woman, like.

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<v Speaker 3>A god in the spider web like a fucking bug.

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<v Speaker 5>And it says, day after heartbreaking day, I was held

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<v Speaker 5>in an unyielding web, a web spun by my husband's indifference.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't reach him anymore. Was the fault mine?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, thinking you know about feminine hygiene, yet trusting the

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<v Speaker 5>now and then care can make all.

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<v Speaker 3>The difference in married happiness.

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<v Speaker 5>As my doctor pointed out, he said, never to run

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<v Speaker 5>such careless risks. Prescribed Lifesyle brand disinfectant for my douching always.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there's a picture of the same guy, and

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<v Speaker 5>the web is busted open, and she's now sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>his lap and they're like cuddling and happy, and the

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<v Speaker 5>big headline writt reads, but I broke through it, Oh

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<v Speaker 5>the joy of finding Tom's love and close companionship once more.

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<v Speaker 5>Believe me, I follow to the letter my doctor's advice

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<v Speaker 5>on feminine hygiene. I always use Liesel for douching. I

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<v Speaker 5>wouldn't be satisfied now with salt, soda or other homemade solutions,

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<v Speaker 5>not with Lysol, a proven germ killer that cleanses so

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<v Speaker 5>gently yet so thoroughly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to use too, and economical. The very best

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<v Speaker 3>part is Lysol really works, I mean really works. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god. It's so Also, like, do you need that

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<v Speaker 3>whole story? Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was convinced just right at the beginning I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need it. I'm about to go buy some Lyesol.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's so silly.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, the ad copy is bad because in the second

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<v Speaker 2>part she says what her husband's name is, Tom, And

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<v Speaker 2>now it's like what you could have just said his

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<v Speaker 2>love because like now you're introducing like a whole new character.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, they're very confusing.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's just bad writing, really, I mean, whoever's

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<v Speaker 4>writing this copy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the copy is the worst thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess we should also say, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>in case with this episode, even if it's not Lysol,

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<v Speaker 2>douching's not good for you. And I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's more compleman knowledge now than it used.

0:34:26.445 --> 0:34:27.365
<v Speaker 1>To be that it's bad for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's true, and there's so many they still sell

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<v Speaker 4>them at all the grocery stores and drug stores here.

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<v Speaker 3>I always notice them, but.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also like often covered in like I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a little film of like dust totally.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like this will clean your vagina right up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I also I remember in like middle school, seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we started calling everyone like a douchebag. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I remember when people like found out what a

0:34:54.445 --> 0:34:58.205
<v Speaker 2>douchebag was. They're like, you play, you regin them, and

0:34:58.485 --> 0:35:01.125
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We were all like tittering lill thirteen

0:35:01.205 --> 0:35:03.485
<v Speaker 2>year olds figuring out. But so at least we weren't

0:35:03.565 --> 0:35:06.085
<v Speaker 2>raised with it. So isn't that nice? Little thirteen year

0:35:06.125 --> 0:35:09.245
<v Speaker 2>olds don't know what it is exactly? Yeah, So the

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<v Speaker 2>world is healing. If you're listening in you're thirteen, you

0:35:11.925 --> 0:35:15.405
<v Speaker 2>probably shouldn't be. But don't douche. You don't need to.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you.

0:35:16.925 --> 0:35:17.165
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:17.205 --> 0:35:19.605
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe that's, uh, you know, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>lessons we've learned on the episode today.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't douche. Yeah, don't be a douchebag, but don't douche.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So this week we're talking about birth control and comstocks

0:35:31.125 --> 0:35:33.605
<v Speaker 2>relationship to that, But next week we're gonna We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it even spicier, and we're gonna be talking about abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Non controversial topic. No one's gonna have any opinions on that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, thank you Julia for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. This was really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys know what's next. Cue the credits.

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<v Speaker 2>American Field is a production of School of Humans and

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart Podcasts. It was hosted by me and this episode

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<v Speaker 2>was written by Julia Chris Gal who is also the

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<v Speaker 2>special guest for Today. Jesse Niswanger and I made the

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<v Speaker 2>theme song, and our executive producers are Virginia Prescott, Elsie Croley,

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<v Speaker 2>and Brandon Barr. You guys can check out the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>online on Instagram at American Filth Pod and that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you can find the ticket link to American Filth Live,

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<v Speaker 2>happening June twenty ninth at Dynamic El Dorado in Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>I will also have the link in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, please like, subscribe, review, force your friends to

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<v Speaker 2>excellent week.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk at you next time. School of Humans