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Speaker 2: me stronger. Hey, welcome to the Black Out This podcast,

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Speaker 2: your host Rod and Karen bitch. I'm a cow bitch.

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Speaker 2: Listening to Madam Karen and Brethren Rod is like a

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Speaker 1: Right, So it's one hundred percent if you pull that

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Speaker 2: It's the difference between somebody shooting me with a gun,

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Speaker 2: episode seventeen thirty seven Robert glasping at Strales. Very controversial episode,

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Speaker 4: Y'all had a lot to say.

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Guys said, y'all, Okay, let's see what y'all

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Speaker 2: That was so engaging. Come mss Anderson said, d L

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how fucked up somebody views are of women.

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Speaker 2: They just don't like that label of having issues with women.

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Speaker 2: Nobody thinks they have issues with women. Not even the

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Speaker 2: most misogynistic asshole thinks that. You know, they all think

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Speaker 2: The funny thing is that his wife doesn't come across

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Speaker 2: dsh no, please don't. You don't gotta say nothing about this, right?

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Speaker 2: He show up like sometimes you gotta hit a bitch.

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Speaker 4: It was almost to the move.

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Speaker 2: Didn't we almost have it all?

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Speaker 4: We almost did?

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Speaker 2: D resip pH Done, says five Stars. Rod went from

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Speaker 2: especially when talking about Child's port favorite party this episode

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Speaker 4: And bury Where.

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Speaker 2: Katries two hundred and six said, when I saw this

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Speaker 2: More serious note, I've been avoiding the Trayvon Martin documentary.

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Speaker 2: media for this. Since then, we've been obsessed with death porn. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: for black people, this is merely an obligation to understand

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Speaker 2: So outside of Sondra Bland, PVAMU is my alma mater.

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Speaker 2: I've not to watch those videos since I didn't even

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Speaker 2: my heart died with him. Like Rod said, I think

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Speaker 2: I discovered the podcast not long after Trayvon's death because

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Speaker 2: after all the other tragedies, I needed to hear someone

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Speaker 2: to understood my frustration and pain. Apologies for the long post,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all that you both do. And GWd replied

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Speaker 2: to that and said, Katri's two older than two or six,

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Speaker 2: you describe my feelings exactly. Yeah, man, thanks, you know

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Speaker 2: I feel you on that, and I do understand people

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Speaker 2: that can't watch that stuff. I'm not. This is not

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Speaker 2: a knock like you will never hear me on the

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Speaker 2: show talk about like how weak or less black somebody

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Speaker 2: is because they don't want to watch trauma. That's not

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Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with being black. I do

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Speaker 2: feel like we have an obligation to ourselves. I think

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Speaker 2: it's best to educate ourselves about history and some of

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Speaker 2: the things that have been done to us. What you

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Speaker 2: off guard. There's nothing worse than a black person that

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Speaker 2: black people when they hit that you know, they hit

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Speaker 2: that brick wall that is racism, and it's like, well,

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Speaker 2: what they were doing this the whole time? You know,

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Speaker 2: like I don't know. It just seemed like I would

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Speaker 2: don't think people should like, like, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the whole point. That's why they want to

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Speaker 4: Fucking ride. None of this shit is fucking true.

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Speaker 1: But in their mind, we can't have you knowing, because

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Speaker 1: once you start knowing, you start using that power against

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Speaker 1: white people in this countries, be held accountable for our

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Speaker 1: And when the when they were talking about like not

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Speaker 1: Now there are something everybody has lines and there are

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Speaker 2: a large extent, you know, and this is not a

432
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: knock on us as black people. But it's the truth.

433
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: We were just trying to get white people to see

434
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: this is happening. It's not just Trayvon and look at

435
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: this scenario. And every time we just found that they

436
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 2: were like coldly being for the most part, like nah,

437
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: it's like here's Eric Garner, we watched him get choked

438
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 2: to death. Nah, okay, Well here's this guy got shot

439
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: at a park. He's a kid, he's a child. He

440
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: got shot. The cops didn't even they just walked up

441
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: and shot him. They didn't attempt to like get the

442
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: gun or anything as a BB gun, And there's video

443
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: of it. Yeah nah, nah, it's not. And so that's

444
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: why I think we got undated with videos is because

445
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: two things. Well, the first being we wanted to prove

446
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: to white people, hey, this is happening. What about this scenario?

447
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: What about this? Here's Mike Brown, what about this? Okay?

448
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: What about this? Okay, what about Sondra Blaind? What about this?

449
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: And then of course there's always gonna be excuses when

450
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 2: you're watching the videos skeptically and kind of rooting for

451
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: or rooting you're rooting for nothing wrong to happen. Because

452
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: if nothing wrong happened, you don't have to fix anything. Correct,

453
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 2: So it's like there's nothing to see here, over and

454
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: over and over and over again. You know that Michael

455
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 2: Slager or whatever shot them in the back and killed them,

456
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, but I still remember when it first came out,

457
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: they were trying to make excuses. He clearly planned a

458
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 2: weapon on that dude. Like anyway, all that was number one.

459
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: Number two. Social media is the wild wild West. It

460
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 2: is at that time. You have stuff like auto play videos,

461
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: which you have to now you can now turn off

462
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: in some places, but that wasn't always the thing you

463
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: could turn off, not something people always knew to turn off.

464
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: And at that point we didn't. No one ever thought

465
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: one day black death will be a video that it

466
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: shared millions of times every day online, correct, you know.

467
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: So it was a lot of Uh, it was like

468
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 2: the common the combination of one and two, you know

469
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: what I just said, the you know, us trying to

470
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: convince white people, and and and then the fact that

471
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: you couldn't really handle or filter that shit out. I

472
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: think it did make a lot of people turn away

473
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: and turn off, you know. I mean, it's only human.

474
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: You have to reserve your psyche because at the end

475
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: of the day, I have to walk out of my

476
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: house be in a white world and hope that, you know,

477
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'll be coming in the house and I'll

478
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: just be thinking myself. I hope none of my neighbors

479
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: think I'm suspicious, even though I fucking live here and

480
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 2: they see me out the time. I hope they never

481
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: call the cop all the time. You know, I go

482
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: somewhere new, I go to someone else this neighborhood to

483
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: visit them, or down someone's house or whatever. You know,

484
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that the police don't knock on the door

485
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: and go, hey, did you this guy breaking in your house.

486
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm hanging out, get the cookout with my friend,

487
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: you know. So I think I think I'm not alone

488
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: in that, you know, Kochi Niga Cochin Nagel says, I

489
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: don't know who Robert Glasper is, but I like him,

490
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 2: and don't talk to me about the ant hell I've

491
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: got raid. I mean, if you want to college show

492
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 2: and express your massage, no artist, fine, I mean you

493
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: don't like black women, cool? Uh, you want to pick

494
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: over pick the black man over the black woman. That's

495
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's not that's that's kind of part for

496
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: the course with Kochy.

497
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: So okay, no it's not.

498
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: Blayton says hey, Madam Karen and brethren Rod longtime listening

499
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: to first time and reviewer, but this episode compelled me

500
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 2: to actually write a review. First things first, to hell

501
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: with the ant hell and everybody in it here, y'all

502
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: go the bullshit. Hope y'all build a tunnel or a

503
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: lake and drown the whole colony. But to the truth,

504
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: but to the true reason for this post. I've been

505
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: listening to you guys for the longest time, but this

506
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: is the episode that compelled me. You guys, retelling of

507
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: racist events that left you either perplexed and somewhat bothered

508
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 2: really struck me. This past weekend, my wife and I

509
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: were celebrating a friend's engagement. It was the first time

510
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: we've been out as a couple without our kid in

511
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: a long time. Since the kid was having to sleep over,

512
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: we decided to rent a hotel room for the night

513
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: and actually relax. After the party, we decided to stop

514
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: by a favorite restaurant in Marietta, Georgia. Now Marietta ain't

515
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: exactly POC friendly, but this is our favorite spot. The

516
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: food and the drinks are phenomenal, the service exceptional as well.

517
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 2: We arrived there around Nina and began to eat. As

518
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: we were eating, I could hear someone cursing loudly. My

519
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: street sense is kicked in. 'm again scanning the room

520
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: to determine if we needed to vac hate early come on.

521
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Eventually I observed this white woman in the corner sitting

522
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: with some guy talking loudly at the bar. We finished

523
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: our food, paid our check, and began to collect our stuff.

524
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: As we got ready to leave, we noticed that the

525
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: woman got up with two white guys so then completely

526
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: she then cold completely collapses to the floor. She was hammered.

527
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: The two men she were laughing, making jokes, and eventually

528
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: helped her up. At this time, oh, at this time,

529
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: we were the only black people on the spot and

530
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: remaining the staff, patrons and us looked around very nervously

531
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: as the two dudes were helping the woman out. Another

532
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: white male patron looked at me and said, you look

533
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: like a strong guy, maybe you should help them. Nope.

534
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, what the fuck are you

535
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: trying to say? But I let the slide. As we

536
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: got outside, we noticed a car pull up and another

537
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: woman hopped out. The two men shuffled the woman into

538
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: the back seat. Man one also got in the back seat.

539
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: Then Man two got in the driver seat of vehicle

540
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: and the other woman hopped in the passing seat. This

541
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: is what makes racism so perfect. I literally had to

542
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: truly analyze situation in turn if they were helping this woman,

543
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: because could be the cause of me not going home

544
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: to see my baby. Like my wife and I talked

545
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: about this situation in the car, and she felt the

546
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: exact same way I did.

547
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: Like we walked, we talked about it all the way,

548
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: all the way, the situation could have ended badly for me.

549
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: She said that even if I wanted to, she would

550
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: have in a being like Nah, racism so diabolically diatabolical

551
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: that even as a man that feels compelled to help

552
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: any and every woman, I froze. The funny thing is

553
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: both my wife and I agreed that if the drunk

554
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: woman was a woman of color, we would have never

555
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: hesitated to aid her, making sure she was safe, making

556
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: sure she was cognizant.

557
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what's funny. I watched a little bit.

558
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: It was on silent but we were we were out

559
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: eating last night and I saw the shew call. Have

560
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: you ever heard of show call? What would you Do?

561
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: Where's It's like real? It's like they set up almost

562
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: like a prank show, but it's not supposed to be funny.

563
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: They set up these scenarios in the public and people

564
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: walk by and they basically see people that are bystanders.

565
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: Would you help somebody if they looked like they were

566
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: in distress, If if a situation looked like it was

567
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: out of control, would you step in? And you know,

568
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: they do stuff like a man and a woman will

569
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: be arguing at a table in the middle of the

570
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: park and they'll be raising their voices and shit, and

571
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: then he'll like grab her arm, and so they want

572
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: to see if people would stop and be like, hey, man,

573
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: get your hands off of her or whatever and so

574
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: and by the way, I think the show is from Satan.

575
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: It's the Devil. I hate this show, like it's such

576
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: a horrible idea.

577
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: They should not do that show at all.

578
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: Like one you're gonna get Like, I don't wonder how

579
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: many people have died stepping into some shit that they

580
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: thought maybe it's what would you do?

581
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: And you mess around to get them actors fucked up

582
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: because some of them I step in and be like

583
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: hey bro, and then it'd be a fucking problem.

584
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 4: They get their ass whooped because they think the scenario

585
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: is real, Like.

586
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: What would you do if? I mean, what are they

587
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: gonna do if the guy grabs some woman's arm and

588
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: another dude just fucking clocks him upside his fucking head

589
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: right without even think about it, you know. Anyway, So

590
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: they had this scenario where it was like a white

591
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: woman with food stamps and this other person wouldn't give

592
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: her the food give she was twelve dollars short or something,

593
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: and they wouldn't let her pay with food stamps, and

594
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: like all these people stopped in like confronted this man

595
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 2: and shit, and I was like interesting. Then they had

596
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: another scenario where it was like white kids and they

597
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: were doing they were doing hazing, like sorority and fraternity

598
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of a park. They made the people like,

599
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, wear funny clothes and shit, and they were

600
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: like we're gonna give you alcohol to you throw up

601
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: and all this shit. And if some people were walking by,

602
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: a couple people stopped and all this stuff, and I

603
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 2: kept thinking like one I would probably look and then

604
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: they had another one with a lost child, like a

605
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: lost child like I'm on the I need I'm on

606
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: the elevator or whatever and I need to find my

607
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: parents or whatever. It was like a little white kid

608
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: with a backpack and all the scenarios. I kept thinking like, yeah, see,

609
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: I'll never signed a release form because I probably walked

610
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: right by the kid. If they like, I'm like, m

611
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: hopefully that kid gets there.

612
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: I go up to a desk, it's some white kid,

613
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: y'all better buy because I'm not touching it because I am.

614
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: I know that they would be like, bitch is still

615
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: in the child.

616
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: Right, there's an extra level of shit for black people,

617
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: which is unfair because it's racism that puts makes us

618
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: have this extra thought process. But it's like if I

619
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: approach these white women and start yelling at her in

620
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: the park that they should not be hazing these other

621
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: white women, and you know, because you know, essentially hazing

622
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: is a thing that everybody does sign up for, you know,

623
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: and the people being Hayes might be like, hey, just

624
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: because they're making me drink alcohol doesn't mean that I'm

625
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: a victim. I want to do this for I want

626
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: to be a whatever.

627
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: And I wonder how many shows they could not air

628
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: because the police showed up.

629
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, just shit like that.

630
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea, but the point being, like what

631
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: he just said sounds like one of those scenarios.

632
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like you want to step in and be like, hey,

633
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: is she okay?

634
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: Well you guys, you know, should she even be going

635
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: with you? Guys? You need an uber man something like that,

636
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: And then you realize I'm this big black dude, is

637
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: like if should like, what are the connotations of me

638
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: stepping in compared to if I was just some white

639
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: person or if she was a black woman, And you're like, well,

640
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: I'm to take this risk, you know, which just happened before.

641
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: I'mnna just I guess I had to find out. I

642
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: looked like I asked, ohole, but man' you okay? You

643
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: know whatever? So you know, I kind of understand what

644
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: you're saying, is my point. But anyway, that show is

645
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: a devil okay.

646
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Speaker 1: So yeah, they shouldn't it that show. I'm pretty sure

647
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Speaker 1: tooon or lady, somebody donna get sued.

648
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Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask how many people have just died,

649
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: like just they thought that it was. They were looking

650
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: around for cameras and then there was like this is

651
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: an actual mugging sir, snap stabs app But I thought

652
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna be on TV. Last words. Hearing both

653
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Speaker 2: of you guys recollect different accounts about racism and even

654
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: thinking about the latest stay in your Ground shooting mirrors

655
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 2: my inner turmoil as the situation unfolded. I hate to

656
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: know that we live in a time and place where

657
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: I literally have to think about the safety of my

658
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: family before trying to be a good Samaritan to someone

659
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: of another race. Sorry for the long posts, Love you guys.

660
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: Ps thanks for lack of my posts on patriarchy last

661
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: week on Twitter at major pain ex Thanks man. Other

662
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: than your ain't hell stuff, you had a lot of

663
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: good points and I'm glad you know Yo okay Amani

664
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: says this is a good right country and I'm not

665
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: about to listen to South Paul divisiveness. None of my

666
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: parents owned any Spiral notebooks, I didn't build any desk.

667
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 2: Stop making excuses and pull yourself up by your bootstraps

668
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: the right way instead of just lazy radical leftist propaganda.

669
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Speaker 2: But go off ride left, the shit left, the shit left,

670
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: the shit left, the shit Wow the money you cut me? Deep? Bro,

671
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: It's like I don't have any fans on this episode?

672
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: What's going on with you guys? Preaches seven forty nine

673
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 2: says I cannot with the ant heel ride or carry

674
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: y'all keep me laughing my ass off. I'm glad you

675
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. Heavyweight says man, I feel like Fred when

676
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: Eddie started going in on Rosa Parks and barbershop. You

677
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: gonna gone too far. Miss Hill did set or a

678
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: lawsuit filed against her by numerous musicians and writers on

679
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: the Miseducation album for not giving proper credit, and that

680
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: is why she can't perform the songs in their original form.

681
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: She wasn't mistaken about that. He wasn't mistaken about that.

682
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: Some would say making the creatives work and claiming it

683
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: as your own constitute stealing, But I digress. Okay, listen,

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: First of all, there's two things here, the first being

685
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: are y'all understanding that some of these are jokes? Or no?

686
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: That's number one? Like, I'm trying to be nice about it.

687
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: But they might think you're being really serious. Right.

688
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: I hate explaining jokes, because when you explain the joke,

689
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 2: it really loses. It's funny a lot of cases. But

690
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: you know how to beehive stands for Beyonce, and they

691
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: unreasonable and they don't give a fuck about the facts

692
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: and the truth. They gonna come for your ass no

693
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: matter what you say. You can say I don't like

694
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Beyonce's heir today or whatever, it doesn't matter that we

695
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: on your ass, right, That's what the ant Hill is

696
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: but for Laurence Hill. So if you're expecting reasonable, nuanced

697
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: commentary on Laurence Hill on this podcast, you've come to

698
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: the wrong fucking place. I don't care if she never

699
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: shows up to another show in her life and she

700
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: steals everybody's it's gonna be team Lawrence Hill. You just

701
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: gotta deal with it. See, she gonna be out here

702
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: like all lives matter, gonna be like they do matter.

703
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 2: That's a great point. I never heard nobody make that

704
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: point the way that Queen miss Hill made it. So

705
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: that's number one. Number two. She paid the niggas five

706
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: million dollars in the lawsuit. I consider it settled. They

707
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: consider it settled. I don't understand what the problem is

708
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: they got their money. I mean, that's the whole point

709
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: of the suing. You got five million dollars in Shut

710
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: the fuck up. Jesus, she named them Newark. Okay, it's

711
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: not like nobody knew other people worked on that album.

712
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: They just when it blew up, they just wanted all

713
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: the credit. Okay, that's all. But they still ain't made

714
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: another Lauryn Hill since then. Why haven't those four people

715
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: combined to get I don't know, Tianna Taylor and be

716
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: like you, the new Lawren Hill. You go out here

717
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: and sing and rap and make this motherfucking money, and

718
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: we'll call well, we'll call you the fuck lawn Heill.

719
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: We make another one? Why can't they do that? Make

720
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: another me? While people can change, it's unreasonable to expect

721
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: the person to give someone with a known pattern of

722
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: clean slate when dealing with them. If miss Hill's pattern

723
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: is to treat musicians poorly, and she's already starting to

724
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: show those signs on a gig you're doing as a

725
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 2: favor for a friend. Seriously, Robert Glasper's our generation's Quincy

726
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 2: Jones even when he was Okay, now you're on a stick, listen,

727
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: then don't take the gig, Like, how you gonna act surprised.

728
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: I don't like her and I think she's shady. Well,

729
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: then don't take the gig. Ain't nobody forced you to

730
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: fucking take the gig? Quit go home? You got your money,

731
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 2: then play. I don't understand, like you knew this. You're

732
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 2: a Professionalsyes, they would, that's the job, that's the job.

733
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: You knew you were a professional musician before you took

734
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: this shit. I don't like her. I heard she treat

735
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: people back and no, I do not want to work

736
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: for Lauren Hill. You talk about she would play some

737
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: bands all the time with let me replace your ass.

738
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the problem is. God damn it,

739
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: Robert Glassper and you and your stands. What's the name

740
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Speaker 2: of y'all have the glass hive? Hmm? I don't think

741
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: y'all even does that? An animal, the glass hoppers, that's

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: what y'all could be called, the glass hoppers, y'all hopping

743
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: in my mentions behind this, no name, no talent, suns

744
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: be gun. They came for the Queen of the ant Hill,

745
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: never on my watch, and I'm never giving up or

746
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: taking any of this back. One may indeed have a

747
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 2: chip on their shoulder. And while there's a longer rant

748
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: in my spirit about musicians not getting the recognitions, much

749
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: like writers for TVs and movies not knowing what these

750
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: musicians went on to do, doesn't mean they haven't had

751
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: their hands in other classics. So I said, make another

752
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 2: Lawrence Hill. They don't mean you had your hand in something,

753
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: make another one. Matter of fact, you go be Laurence Hill. Okay,

754
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 2: it's that easy. It's so easy. For instance, Robert Glasper

755
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: is a credited writer at and played on four or

756
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: five songs on The Pimper Butterfly. Not to mention his

757
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: twenty twelve Grammy for Best R and B Album or

758
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: the other three Grammys. Oh it was like they gave

759
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: Adell over Beyonce. Oh the Grammy. It's all so good.

760
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: Let me know when he wins a BT Award or

761
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: the Emmy. He definitely should have taken this miss Hill

762
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: to Miss Hill first, though, but maybe he was too busy.

763
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Torn with August Green. Well, she's busy too, but you

764
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: know what she does, and she's busy. She goes home

765
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: and she rests and she gets her chockras right, So

766
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: she's not all up in the media talking bad about people.

767
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: She got sued by those greedy musicians, and did she

768
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 2: ever take the time out to say a crossword about them. Nope,

769
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: she said, let me get my chockras right for myself,

770
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: not for y'all. A passion August Green of Cashion Project

771
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: for common, for fun, and not out of obligation to

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00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: the IRS. I don't know what. I don't know what

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: this means at any rate.

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Speaker 4: Oh, because she had to pay the taxes.

775
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what they got to do, what they got

776
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 2: to do with the price of team in China. We

777
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: all got to pay taxes so people can't make mistakes. Hmm,

778
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: the white man. That's the time that you back to

779
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: RS when the white man come from a black woman. Money.

780
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: Now you're all about your team RS. You're gonna get

781
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: you a Team RS T shirt. Nigga, God damn what

782
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: I'll tell you? Black men are the white people or

783
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: black people? When the calls of Lauren Hill really dark,

784
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: Knight says dear Roddy Caern. I love this episode. Then again,

785
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: I love every episode. You made the case that some

786
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: found with their blackness. When Trayvon Martin was murdered, I

787
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: saw the change of myself and others when Barack Obama

788
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: started running for president and then once he got elected. Yes,

789
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 2: that was another big touchdown, the moment at a lot

790
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: of white people that people thought were cool when they

791
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: seen black people gravitating towards Barack Obama and the primaries,

792
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: they lost that shit Hillary Clinton being one of them,

793
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 2: by the way, So it was I remember those times

794
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: where a lot.

795
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Speaker 4: And that's how she lost too, Yeah, a.

796
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: Lot of allies and shit, well she was I mean

797
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: she lost because she was gonna lose, if you know

798
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. She lost her ship because she never

799
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: imagined this dark horse, not not nowhere right, none of

800
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: us saw it like we all when we first heard

801
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: of Barack Obama the vasse Jory was like, I mean,

802
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: that's that's cool that he would like to run and uh,

803
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: Dedney sound like his name is Osama and is that

804
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: nigga from here? Is that okay?

805
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: Cool?

806
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: Well, good luck to him. Never really heard of him

807
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: other than he gave one speech at the DNC in

808
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, I mean two thousand and that was it

809
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: six anyway, before he got elected, he gave one speech

810
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: at DNC, and people was like, yeah, you all right,

811
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: I guess and then boom, it is just like celebrity culture.

812
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: It's just like wildfire social media everything. And there was

813
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: a lot of white people that wasn't down with that

814
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: shit because it was supposed to be Hillary Clinton's coordination.

815
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: You know. It was different than Bernie Sanders because with Bernie,

816
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: he wasn't really beating her everywhere. She was losing to

817
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Barack Obama in some of these primaries, and it was

818
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: piling up to the point where she actually lost. So

819
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, people were very uh. I think she was

820
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: kind of bitter and upset and sidetrack. And a lot

821
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: of her supporters that are white war too, which activated

822
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: a lot of black people because all of a sudden,

823
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: we found ourselves going but we're supposed to be on

824
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: the same side, and it seemed like this guy upposed

825
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: all the ideals you're talking about and he didn't even

826
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: vote for the Iraq war and all this shit, you know,

827
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: and people were like, yeah, fuck that, I don't want

828
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: his black ass president anyway, especially once whack ass Sarah

829
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Speaker 2: Palin oh wait sorry, when he got and then once

830
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: he got real once he got elected, especially once whack

831
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: ass Sarah Palin came along with her bullshit. Then I

832
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: get a sense of how white people started wilding the

833
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: fuck out. Sorry white ladies, but I saw a whole

834
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 2: lot of y'all getting your party on what Sarah came

835
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: to town one president. Once President Obama got elected, white

836
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: folks really their fucking mind. Trayvon was just the most

837
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: stark example of how the laws are once again stacked

838
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: against black children. Yeah, that's Sarah Palin shit as wild

839
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: because I remember out there this week, I watched a

840
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: whole week of this white woman have a fucking meltdown.

841
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: Her name's like Amy Siskin or something, and she was

842
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: just attacking Amioni Gandhy and this other black woman who

843
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know what first name's Diane, but

844
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know her like that because they brought up

845
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: that this Amy Siskin woman used to be like a

846
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: supporter of Sarah Palin. She wanted the primary Barack Obama.

847
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: She like she was kind of anti Obama, pro Palin

848
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: and all this other shit, and now she's the one

849
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: of the leading voices of the quote unquote resistance. And

850
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: they were like, how the fuck did you get from

851
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: there to hear, we were like you to explain, and

852
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: she lost her fucking mind, like.

853
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: She just having an explanation and explaining.

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00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: She did everything a fragile white person doesn't know situations

855
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: starting blocking people don't want to be held accountable, attack them.

856
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: She lied, she said, she lied about what they said

857
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: about her. Then she lied on them, h implying they

858
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: were like Russian agents and shit. Now, because of the

859
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: way social media works when they're when you're a very

860
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: political person, and especially if you're white, you get a

861
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: ton of followers. So she has like, you know, one

862
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: hundred over one hundred thousand followers, I believe, and she's

863
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: like seeking them on these two black women. Now, keep

864
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: in mind, this is all under the OSSes of you know,

865
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: these black women are being divisive by bringing up I

866
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: used to support Republicans and some of the worst ones.

867
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: And I used to be against you know, Obama in

868
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: favor of Republicans women but at some But but you

869
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: bringing it up is more divisive than me switching sides

870
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: and not having to like do that, you know, And

871
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: I think not having to vent myself. And I think

872
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: because social media people don't have to vet themselves as

873
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: much anymore. And it's not just white people that do this.

874
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: There's a lot of there were a lot of black

875
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: people that kind of did this after tray Von and shit,

876
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: where it was like, I really wasn't all that woke

877
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: or all that vocal or all that even like experience

878
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 2: what's the best word, or even like in my cultural

879
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: experience necessarily the blackest person. But now I am so

880
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: triggered by just being awakened to the white racism around

881
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: me that I don't want to just like say fuck them.

882
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: I also want to take it to the next level

883
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: of I want to speak for black people. I want

884
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 2: to lead charges and be an activist and all this stuff.

885
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Nothing's wrong with that. It happens, but you know, those

886
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: voices and that activation, sometimes it's fleeting. Sometimes you can't

887
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 2: handle it, the critique that comes with that. Sometimes you're

888
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: over over compensating and attacking people. And you know, when

889
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: you get checked on shit, it is I'm always right,

890
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: You're always wrong, because deep down there was always a

891
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: sense of altruism there, like I'm doing this favor for y'all,

892
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: deep down to my bones, I'm doing what I feel

893
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: is best for y'all. Y'all should be thinking me, which

894
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: is a very white way to approach it. Now, that's

895
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: kind of how I think a lot of the activism

896
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: shit kind of came across the folks. That's how a

897
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: lot of the I mean shit people still attacking like

898
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: Sean King and shit kind of on that same vein.

899
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: But you know, all these activists get attacked for that,

900
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: and then even with with white liberal people that did that,

901
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 2: Like you see how it turns into I'm a good

902
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: white person and you know, just because I don't feel

903
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 2: like I owe it to you black people to explain

904
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: why I supported some racist shit. Now, I'm going to

905
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: take my ball and go home. I was doing you

906
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: a favor, right, you guys are welcome.

907
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do a lot of that bullshit.

908
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Didn't want to white people get mad say big, we

909
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: didn't ask for your goddamn charity.

910
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: You could have stayed where you were, right.

911
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: So I do think a lot of this does stem

912
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: back to Obama and then Trayvon and all that stuff

913
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: just escalated it. I also think what also think that

914
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: Twitter has blown up during this time, and all of

915
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: these stories that we've all heard for years really were

916
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: put out in a way that they never would have

917
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: been before. Twitter can be a fucked up place. There's

918
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: no tool like it forgetting this kind of information. Also,

919
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: this was black people showing how they really feel with

920
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: other black folks, So this is how they find their blackness.

921
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: White folks get to hear our thoughts out loud, and

922
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: it makes some uncomfortable with how we feel around them

923
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: when that we're just trying to survive. That's true, that's

924
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: all true. And social media has been a hub for people,

925
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 2: and you know, everybody's lived experience is not the same.

926
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm trying my best to like understand,

927
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: grasp and love people despite that, because if I just

928
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: love the black people who were raised like me or

929
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 2: come from shit, then what's the fucking point. Like there

930
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 2: has to be some room for the fact that, like, yeah,

931
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: you grew up a different way than me, but I

932
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: don't feel like you're a bad person, and even when

933
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: we disagree, it's coming from a good place. And that's okay,

934
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: too correct. You know, I don't want to live this

935
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: life where I'm dominating everybody in my circle, like you

936
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: get down to lay down, like I'm not a tyrant,

937
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: and that's just not realistic. You know, I don't want

938
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: a fucking bunch of puppets and followers and shit, you

939
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: know anyway, Also, the Anhill can have all the seats, Robert,

940
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: what is wrong with y'all other than the Anhill. I

941
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: need puppets and followers in the Hills. The rest of

942
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: y'all everything else y'all can disagree with. Also, the Anhill

943
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: can have all the seats. Robert Glasser plays my favorite songs.

944
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 2: Missy Elliott has always been everything. It's all. Your base

945
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: is not stable. Elon Musk either, Cardi b is all

946
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: in Niggi's head and Sam Smith needs to keep his

947
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: thoughts to himself. And I can write a whole lass

948
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: post about Dale Hughey, but will save it because y'all

949
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: said plenty. Sorry for the long post, love y'all. Thanks really,

950
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: Dark Knight, A little hurt that you uh that you

951
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: said d An Hilk have all the sea stuff. I

952
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: just don't get why what is wrong with black people

953
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: that y'all hate Lauren Hill this much? You know, I

954
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: didn't know we had this many coons and sellouts listening

955
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: to the show. To be honest, I'm a bit a

956
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: shaved of the show. I might need to take a

957
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: break to get my chokers aligned for a few weeks.

958
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh Lord, to teach people a lesson. The poll is,

959
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: why was Robert Glasper so mad at Laurence Hill. He

960
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: hates black women, he is jealous that she's so paid,

961
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: or he just wants attention. Uh, twenty three percent of

962
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 2: y'all said he hates black women. I think that, yeah,

963
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: I can see that. Twenty three percent of y'all also

964
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: said he is jealous that she's so paid. And lastly,

965
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: fifty four percent, he just wants attention. And that's what

966
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: I think it really came down to. He was just

967
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: trying to siphon off attention for a legend who was

968
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: out here touring and you know, ain't nobody trying to

969
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: come this little tour. Missus Anderson said he needs to

970
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: stop hating. I just saw her a concert a few

971
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: weeks ago. She wasn't late songs of gemming and not

972
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: all rearranged and crazy like people been reporting. I'm starting

973
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: to think these people been lying on her. M thank you.

974
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: I trust miss Anderson. Okay, first of all, spelling name

975
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 2: with two z's okay, So I know that she came

976
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: through with the realness number two. She listened to the

977
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 2: show and reported the real But y'all gonna tune that

978
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: out and listen to all the people on Twitter that's

979
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: lying on the woman. Okay, I see. I guess people

980
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: believe what they want to believe. Young Ed says, y'all

981
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: put on a great show every show. This is why

982
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 2: I keep coming back. This is why my girl GG

983
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: got me the greatest gift ever with a year premium

984
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 2: and tickets to the live show.

985
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: Ah got out gg a real one.

986
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 2: See you at the list show. Body, cair you came

987
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: through with an instant classic with this one. What is

988
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: wrong with y'all? You niggas is crazy? Helloel had me

989
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: laughing controls to be at work. I fell out my chair,

990
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: busting my stitches and Mayo pete a little. Whoa, my god?

991
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: Are you okay?

992
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: I know we need to get somebody to check on you.

993
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: Figuratively, speaking of course, no one was actually heard while

994
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 2: listening to this podcast. I really needed this one. Appreciate

995
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: you too, and amazing work you did. Thank you.

996
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I never know when we do episodes

997
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: like this because like part of it is really funny,

998
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, if people can understand sarcasm,

999
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: then then this should be really funny. And then part

1000
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 1: of it is uh, super serious when talking about Trayvon

1001
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: Martin and all this shit. Correct, I don't even think

1002
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: we played gainst or race this episode or something.

1003
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh wait no we did. We did? No, wait no

1004
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: we didn't. I don't think he did. So you know,

1005
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: some days I'm like, was it too sad? Was it

1006
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: too much? But I like when you'll write in and

1007
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: go I liked this episode allright. We had episode Brunch

1008
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: and Blurred Black Brunch and Blurts, which had six comments,

1009
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: a couple of long ones. Cokey Nigra says, Cooke ENIGRAA

1010
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: says one twenty four. Cochle Enigra four says this blur

1011
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: discussion really got me. As you know, I'm the prototype

1012
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: nerd and been a nerd longer than most of your listeners.

1013
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: But I'm with Caring on this. And I grew up

1014
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: in the town that even now is seventy seven percent

1015
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: white and less than twenty percent Latino, still never felt

1016
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: there was a that the need to be a blur,

1017
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 2: which I do tend to associate with the unsold special

1018
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: black and the nerd and no black girls like me

1019
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: type of folks. Sorry, it's mostly dudes I hear claiming

1020
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: blur and a bunch of sadidsacks I have never seen.

1021
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know, that was one thing I forgot

1022
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: and didn't really come up in our conversation, but it's

1023
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: very valid with the point you're making, the gendered part

1024
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 2: of blur, which obviously you know, I'm not one hundredson,

1025
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: sure it's the term, but just the toxic masculinity of

1026
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: black men in the nerd sphere that we carry with us,

1027
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: whether it's nerd shit, sports shit games like you picked

1028
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: the thing, if you got black men involved in it,

1029
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: assist black men a lot of times they carry baggage

1030
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: over and I can see how that would make, how

1031
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: that would come across differently for a woman than it

1032
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: would come across for like me. Even though I can

1033
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: relate to the idea the special black thing that I hate,

1034
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: like I really do hate the whole special black shit,

1035
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: and I've seen that in blurred culture. But the more

1036
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: black people I've met, especially via social media, the more

1037
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: I realized that that's not necessarily the main thing about

1038
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: people that call themselves blurds. You know, it just took

1039
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: me meeting more people. I said to Karen several times

1040
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: in that episode, I started where you are, and I

1041
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: don't you know, I'm not like I started where Karen is.

1042
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: And I'm fighting every day to stop to not go

1043
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 2: back to just being like you niggas think da da

1044
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: da da, because I know nobody listens when you start

1045
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 2: talking like that. And there's a lot of people that

1046
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: get hit with the cross because they're like, I call

1047
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: myself a blur, I love your show, I listen to you.

1048
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that toxic masculinity, misogynistic bullshit in

1049
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: the community. And I'm still proud to be black and

1050
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 2: a nerd, and I don't want to just come off like,

1051
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 2: well fuck you too, you know, or you know, call

1052
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 2: yourself something else, because I don't find the term necessarily

1053
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 2: to be off putting, even though I didn't grow up

1054
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: with it at all. Correct.

1055
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: And also it's one of the things when it comes

1056
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: to and we're kind of talked about this nerd and

1057
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: nerd culture, I think that a lot of not all,

1058
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: but a lot of black men actually they just want

1059
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: to be white men in the nerd culture. That's all

1060
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: that that's their whole game and their whole aim. And

1061
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: the reason why is because you basically a lot of

1062
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: those dudes basically, excuse me, imitate the same thing those

1063
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: white dudes. Anything they complained about, these niggas complained about.

1064
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: Too, excluding women no lgbt Q. Anytime a woman pop up,

1065
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: you have to question.

1066
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Her to be sure that she's fucking certified versus a

1067
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: dude andnot know shit about shit. But you just will

1068
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: welcome him into the fold because he has a penis,

1069
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: and that becomes a problem too. And those people quote

1070
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: unquote also called themselves blurreds, and you know, it's one

1071
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: of those things where you get like a blurry line

1072
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: in that. So you know, between extent, I understand there

1073
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: are more people that are blurreds that are like, I'm

1074
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 1: not about that. I go to the to the conferences,

1075
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: and I'll go out to the conventions, and I have

1076
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: a ball, and I don't run away from my blackness,

1077
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: and I don't hide my blackness. Now I won't these

1078
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: white folks know that I'm here. But I'm not no

1079
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: white nerd. You know, I understand the culture and I

1080
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: can get into some of the same shit that.

1081
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,280
Speaker 4: Y'all are into.

1082
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: But overall I'm not I'm black first in a nerd second,

1083
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: like then that's that's that's kind of what they want

1084
00:55:59,239 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: them to know.

1085
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm not just a regular nerd.

1086
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: I'm also a black nerd, and I want my blackness

1087
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: to outshine my nerd them.

1088
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I think it's like, it's one thing

1089
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: to introduce yourself as a blurd to other black people

1090
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: and as a way to say I'm different than you.

1091
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 2: Like that obviously has a completely different connotation, and that

1092
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: that would be the one that we as black people

1093
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: running too more because we're black. But if like it

1094
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 2: was a room full of white people and a guy

1095
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: said he was a blurred, I wouldn't feel like, well,

1096
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: clearly this dude thinks he hates like he hates other

1097
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: black people. I'll be like, well, maybe he feels like

1098
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't want you all white people to act like

1099
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm not black. You know, I don't like I, like

1100
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't grow up like that. But I'm

1101
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: just trying to have some consideration rather than just dismissing

1102
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: the idea of all blurred people being like anti black

1103
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: and throwing them away, because I feel like that's equally

1104
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: that is fucked up to me to do that to people, correct,

1105
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 2: to other black people, and on an individual basis or whatever.

1106
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: You know that I have met blurs exactly like what

1107
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: she's talking about, though, So it's not like she's making

1108
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: up some phenomena I've never experienced, like I've experienced it,

1109
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 2: but I've also experienced the opposite, and those both of

1110
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: those people will call themselves blurds.

1111
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 4: Correct, you know.

1112
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, she said, I think there's a third way that

1113
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: neither of you discuss this, and that is intersectionality. I'm

1114
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: African American, I'm a scientist. I'm a woman, I'm Pennsylvanian.

1115
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm a singer, I'm a bibliophilon, I'm a foodie. But

1116
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: trying to draw a whole new category for these identities

1117
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: reminds me of tiger woods cavalin Asian identity hashtag, a

1118
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: side wompin singing book of foodie. I think not. But

1119
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: really a really good nuanced conversation guys enjoyed, y'all. Yeah,

1120
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: But see, to me, that would be like, how if you,

1121
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: you know, you, being a black woman and a scientist,

1122
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: if you specifically wanted to put out a bat signal

1123
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: to other black women's scientists in your you know, in

1124
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: your vein of work, because maybe you know, depending on

1125
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: what the numbers look like where you're at or whatever,

1126
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: and you specifically know that culturally and just professionally, there's

1127
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: some things that you experienced that white people will never

1128
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 2: be able to relate to. And y'all called y'allselves, I'm

1129
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: blind to this door whatever. Fuck like if y'all wanted

1130
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: to do that, I don't want to just hear the

1131
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: term and be like, nah, fuck them they like correct,

1132
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about the blur shit. It's not

1133
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: about saying like, these are just good people and none

1134
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: of them are ever doing anything wrong. Nah, I've experienced

1135
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 2: some of the negative stuff y'all talk about myself, which

1136
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: is why I started on some like fuck them all.

1137
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: That was why I originally started, and then I've met

1138
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: more people and was like, Okay, I can't really say

1139
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: fuck them all because I know too many people that

1140
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: claim it and they not on that bullshit. So I've

1141
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: never got that vibe off of them. They never said

1142
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: anything shady to me about it, So I'm gonna broaden

1143
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: my horizons with the term, right, So there would be

1144
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: some people that would hear you say, you know, we're

1145
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: black woman scientists, uh, blientists, and and get mad and

1146
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: be like they think they're better than other black people

1147
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: or whatever. And white people would get mad at you

1148
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: because they'd be like, why are you trying to bring

1149
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: up race? And I just see scientists when I walk

1150
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: in the room and all this shit. But I would

1151
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: fight the reflex to just be mad and be like, Okay,

1152
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: well what made y'all start this? Why do y'all call

1153
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: y'allselves at correct? How do y'all feel about other black people?

1154
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: And then we'll get to if I fuck with y'all

1155
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: or not, you know, right? But uh no, But but

1156
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: you bring in two great points that especially the gender part.

1157
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: I really, uh just completely didn't even think about that

1158
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: in our discussion. And that's that's probably the biggest.

1159
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because men are dicks in this fright, Like across

1160
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: the board, men sis head straight men come in and

1161
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: they just think they fucking run ever everything and every

1162
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: video game needs to cater towards them, and anything that

1163
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: comes out you need to ask into the shots and

1164
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: anything that comes out, you know, you need to have shit.

1165
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: And anytime you have anything that brings women, LGBTQ, anything

1166
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: other than sis head straight white men, black men, and

1167
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: white men lose their motherfucking mind.

1168
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: The only time black men get upset.

1169
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Is when a character that they thought should have been

1170
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: black turns white and then all of a sudden they

1171
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: want to fight with that group.

1172
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: But other than that, y'all niggas agree on everything.

1173
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, what's interesting though, is.

1174
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: I feel like the ownership and the title and the

1175
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: entitlement to nerd as a term is has historically been

1176
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: like men are seen as this.

1177
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, obviously women game or the men like in all

1178
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: the measurable ways, like women go to school longer, and

1179
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: they say all at the higher level, all the shit.

1180
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, yes, men feel entitled to the term nerd

1181
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: as if it's just us a bunch of us dudes

1182
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: that have decided to define ourselves by the hobbies we

1183
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: have and the fact that we cannot have sex with women,

1184
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, in a lot of these cases, and that

1185
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: has been interesting because women have kind of claimed and

1186
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 2: like basically not even claimed, but like staked their space

1187
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 2: like this is our space too, what the fuck, and.

1188
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: Force their way into their space and you know, just

1189
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: like any place where you're dealing with privileged people, they

1190
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: fucking panic because you quote unquote you're not giving up shit.

1191
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: But in your mind, the diversity is you fucking giving

1192
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: up shit because our Lord have mercy. And all of

1193
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, I got to deal with women gamers because

1194
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: there are some women that actually know and can play

1195
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: video games better than some men. But if you talk

1196
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: about like the tournaments and all that stuff, a lot

1197
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: of times there's nothing but men in it, and nobody

1198
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: ever asks fucking why why there's nothing but men on

1199
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: these ESPN tournaments and all this stuff. Anybody ever asks

1200
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: why is it because y'all never recruit for these women.

1201
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: It's because y'all never go after these women.

1202
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: It's because y'all think women are in theory, and nobody

1203
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: ever talks about that. But if there's money to be made,

1204
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: women out there need to make some of this money too.

1205
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 4: Diverse people LGBTQ need.

1206
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: To make some of this money too, because gaming is

1207
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: actually where a lot of money is being channeled into

1208
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: these fields and it's not trickling quote unquote trickling.

1209
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 4: Down to these others.

1210
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: But I think as time goes on and something that

1211
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: men don't want to hear what's gonna happen when you

1212
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: have the quote unquote first big time woman video gamer,

1213
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, when.

1214
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 4: You say her name, everybody knows who she is the

1215
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 4: one yet I'm pretty sure they do.

1216
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not in those fields like that.

1217
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: But because I'm not in the live gaming field like

1218
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: that either to say for sure, and like I didn't

1219
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 2: watch EVO when it came on TVs, I literally don't

1220
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: know how the representation is necessarily within that community, you know.

1221
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 2: So I do want ye and there may be a woman.

1222
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 4: Y'all let me know, but I'm on the outside looking in.

1223
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: And like when I hear people talk about these things,

1224
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't ever hear women's name.

1225
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: I'm just saying for me, I don't ever hear women's name.

1226
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1227
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1228
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 2: The other thing is, like with black shit, you probably

1229
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: got to seek out some women that are talking about

1230
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: this stuff. I follow some women that twitch gamers and

1231
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: stuff online on my Twitter, and I'll see them talking

1232
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 2: about certain topics. You know, I don't necessarily know everything

1233
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: they're talking about, but you know, I kind of get

1234
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 2: to see, like what the hurdles are, what the goal,

1235
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: what the bowstones are they're accomplishing and stuff like that.

1236
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: So but yeah, people think gaming is a meritocracy and

1237
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: it's not correct obviously. But anyway, Koche made some great points. Man,

1238
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: both of those are great points. But I really for just,

1239
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: you know, I really forgot about the fact that a

1240
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of people see blurred as man

1241
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: and once you look at it as that, then it's

1242
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 2: gonna be fucked up because men are fucked up, and

1243
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna bring all our baggage to the term and

1244
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: be like, what are you doing coming to our clubhouse?

1245
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: This is that we hate women club And yeah, absolutely

1246
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: that's fucked up. And also the other thing I would

1247
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 2: acknowledge too, a lot of people that are blurs that

1248
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: do grow up around white people that are like, I'm

1249
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: a blurred, but I'm a nerd, but I am black.

1250
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: Don't forget that. A lot of them let that get

1251
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: toxic culture of whiteness change them and not the other

1252
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: way around. So a lot of times people aren't taking

1253
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 2: a stand and being like, nah, I'm not with this shit,

1254
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: don't you know, Like you're we're gonna have to be

1255
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: more than just gaming buddies where you're like run around

1256
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: calling me the N word on call of duty, or

1257
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: you're being misogynistic or homophobic, and I'm supposed to be

1258
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 2: cool with that as long as you don't call me

1259
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: a nigger. There's a lot of people that socialize to

1260
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 2: fit in, and then they don't challenge those spaces, and

1261
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: then they try to group up on the internet as

1262
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: if they speak for black people, and it's like, no,

1263
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: you don't, so yeah, I can. I can understand all that. Yeah, anyway,

1264
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: dz in ninety one says, actually, movie Trash would be

1265
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 2: a perfect for groups of people who want to talk

1266
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 2: through the whole movie. I can see I can see

1267
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 2: my friends and I who host a mystery signs there

1268
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: three thousand every month and would love this. We would

1269
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: have a ball saying, man, yeah, I realized after we

1270
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: finished the show that movie Trash is basically the Dollar Theater.

1271
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: So like, does the Dollar Theater still exist?

1272
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't they do?

1273
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: I know?

1274
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: But the closest one to us, I don't know anyone

1275
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: is like down towards rock Hill.

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Okay. Manuel Lowry says, I cried during Here Comes to Boom.

1277
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: His interest for his UFC fight always gets me. I

1278
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: do not know what that comment referred to to you.

1279
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We must have talked about a

1280
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. I don't remember this, Eve, he says.

1281
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 4: Was that Jamake. Did we talk about something Jamaican or

1282
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: something like that. I don't remember.

1283
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is U. This is embarrassing.

1284
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 2: I don't remember what we talked about.

1285
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I talked about so much shit. Yeah, I'm looking

1286
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: to see if I can find something I don't know.

1287
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: All right, Eve, he says, I never even heard the

1288
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: term blurreded til a few years ago. I always just

1289
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: called myself just plain old nerd.

1290
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 3: Uh.

1291
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: But I can see the validity in the term. I

1292
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: watched a YouTuber named Andre call himself the black nerd

1293
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 2: in one of his videos. He explains why. He said

1294
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: that immediate black people are usually showing the stereotypical tropes,

1295
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 2: but he wanted to put black in front of his

1296
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: nerd to let people know that black people can be anything.

1297
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 2: We can be anything, including nerds and not sowing else's

1298
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: preconceived notions of us. It made sense to me, but

1299
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: I so I'll never associated that term negatively, but I

1300
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 2: can understand how it can be triggering to some people.

1301
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: If they willie, someone is trying to other themselves. Yeah,

1302
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,959
Speaker 2: I think somebody compared it to like socialist, No Karen

1303
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 2: wasn't either comparitive socialist on Twitter or no, yeah Karen

1304
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: compared to socialists on Twitter that day, and like it's

1305
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 2: the same thing. I had the same hurdle, And I

1306
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: still came back to this point where I'm like, I

1307
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with socialists. I have a problem

1308
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 2: with people on Twitter don't not talk to folks. But

1309
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of their way of life for some folks,

1310
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: and they just think that that's smart, and I don't

1311
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 2: think it's smart. I think it's stupid, and I think

1312
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 2: it most people are not like me, and they're not

1313
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: gonna revisit that conversation. They're gonna go.

1314
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: Fuck socialists, fuck black socialists, and they're rude ass.

1315
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: Piece of shit that blah blah blah. And they called

1316
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: me neo liberal and capitalists and shit. And I'm just

1317
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: a nigga trying to make a living and making it

1318
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 2: to the next day. I don't have nothing to do

1319
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: with that shit blah blah blah. And so you end

1320
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: up turning off a lot of people that you claim

1321
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 2: you know depending on what your real motives are, which

1322
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: the point, Yeah, you claim to be trying to the word,

1323
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 2: but you're spreading the word it is mostly dragging people

1324
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: on social media. That's not you know, that's not necessarily

1325
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: spreading the word because it does, it's not necessarily effective.

1326
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 2: You know, when people write books and they want to

1327
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: spread the word about something they're into, they don't write

1328
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: with the tone that people tweet folks with. There's a

1329
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 2: reason for that. There's a time on the tradition of

1330
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: passing knowledge and changing minds and educating folks. Teachers don't

1331
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 2: talk to people like that. Like somehow we get on

1332
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 2: social media and people just lose all common sense of

1333
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 2: like what the fuck communication is about, because it's really

1334
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 2: more about communicating for retweets, the dopamine fix of fighting

1335
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: people and dragging people and shit, and it's less and

1336
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,719
Speaker 2: less about the actual content of what you want to convey.

1337
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: And I think that shit overtakes a lot of these discussions,

1338
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 2: you know, So I can definitely see how someone who

1339
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 2: got introduced to the term blurred by somebody calling themselves

1340
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: a blur and telling you how ain't shit you are,

1341
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: you'd be like, man, fuck them forever. I don't got

1342
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 2: time for this, you know, like, oh, you wrote an art,

1343
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 2: you're a blurred. You got a website and your article

1344
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: is I like anime and these other niggs don't like Okay,

1345
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 2: well fuck you then right, I get it. I totally

1346
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 2: get that. Three snaps in the twelve wrote, oh, this

1347
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: is a long comment with no spacing. All right, let's

1348
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: see what we can do. I really love this blurred

1349
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,719
Speaker 2: and feminist discussion this episode. I didn't hear the word blurred,

1350
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: and I was in college and it was only used

1351
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 2: by a specific group of D and D playing niggas,

1352
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: but side eye all the other black people. The word

1353
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 2: doesn't really bother me, and I never really had any

1354
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 2: negative connotations with it. I grew up in the rural

1355
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: area and my high school has six hundred and fifty

1356
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 2: students and only twelve black and two LATINIX kids. Hit

1357
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: I was used, Yes see those are the people I worked.

1358
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 4: Like.

1359
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:52,719
Speaker 2: Couple said like seven percent white, twenty less than twenty

1360
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: percent Mexican, and I'm like, so you still have some

1361
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 2: black people there, you know what I mean? That's some

1362
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 2: black people that grow up where it's like them, you know,

1363
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 2: like it's up and down, Like, I wonder what what

1364
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: is the term blurred mean for a person like that.

1365
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 2: It's like I socialized with white nerves, but helped by

1366
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: going online claiming this title or blurd, I was able

1367
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: to find other black people. I wonder what it means

1368
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: to them, you know not you know, I don't want

1369
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: to speak for them because I don't know maybe they

1370
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 2: really are like I used to turn because I hate

1371
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: other black people.

1372
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 4: I don't know all most of them. I doubt that.

1373
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was usually the only black kid in my classes,

1374
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 2: and that was absolutely true. Wants to start taking AP

1375
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: and advanced classes. All of the black people, of course,

1376
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 2: knew each other and we ended up on sports teams

1377
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: together or in clubs together. But there was some poking

1378
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: fun at me for being too white, and I would

1379
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: joke with them that they were too ghetto or too ratchet,

1380
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 2: and there was a lot of camaraderie there, but the

1381
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: white people like to exceptionalize me. That's yo. That has

1382
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: been my experience as well. It is me and my

1383
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: like I mean, I was never really called too white,

1384
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 2: not in any serious level, but me and my friends

1385
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 2: could make jokes like that because we were black. We

1386
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 2: was from a black neighborhood, riding the black bus all

1387
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,719
Speaker 2: going to the same black ass place back and forth

1388
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: to school. And then I get to school, I mean

1389
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: these ap advanced classes and shit, it was always white

1390
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: people trying to like intimate that I was special. It

1391
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: was never us, yeah, like other black The only time

1392
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: that other black kids wuldn't really single me out on

1393
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: something like you think he's special, you are special, it

1394
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: would be some positive shit like man, you can't smoke

1395
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: we with us. You supposed to be trying to be

1396
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: like go to college and shit, what you doing?

1397
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 4: Do something with your life?

1398
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: Beat it right, like we're about to smoke cigarettes on

1399
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 2: the corner. Can't like go ride and study. You know,

1400
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 2: Like that was the only time I really felt like,

1401
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: you know, somebody thought that I that I was quote

1402
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: unquote better than And even then, I mean, I'm sure

1403
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: if I would have pressed the issue, I would have

1404
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: been smoking them cigarettes. But you know, I was like

1405
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 2: I got to ask me y'all right bye? You know. Anyway,

1406
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: they were constantly talking about how it was so different

1407
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: all from all the other black people, or they would

1408
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: say some racist shit about black people, follow it up with, oh,

1409
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 2: but not you, You're not like them. They would ask

1410
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: me questions about what black people thought about this or that,

1411
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 2: and that would piss shit, would piss me off. Oh yeah,

1412
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. But then some of those questions are

1413
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: from your friends, then it's easier to swallow that irritation

1414
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 2: and just play along. Yeah. When I had white friends

1415
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: that would happen to like sometimes they would be like, well,

1416
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 2: what about this, and I'd be like, no, not just no,

1417
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: but this is how black people feel about this, so

1418
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: don't do it. And I'm I'm calling it out as

1419
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: a friend, you know, because they were my friends and

1420
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,919
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm trying to help them in that situation

1421
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: where like, yo, if you say this stupid shit, you're

1422
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: gonna get fucked up somewhere. I'm not like other these

1423
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: other black people that I don't even know how they

1424
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: have the wherewithal to be able to do this, but

1425
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: they some white person says or does some wildly offensive

1426
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: shit around them, and they're just like, oh that's Trevor,

1427
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: move on. I can't I can't do it. Yeah before, yeah,

1428
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 2: I don't have it in me. I can't do it

1429
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: if you do some wild shit around me. I will

1430
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 2: fucking tell you, and you better stop it or we

1431
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: won't be friends. Like correct, I'm not gonna kill your

1432
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: punch you. I'm not violent, but I don't have to

1433
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 2: be around for this shit. Uh. This happened throughout my

1434
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: four years. I got used to it, and it was

1435
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 2: fine until the joke started turning on to me. The

1436
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: whitest black person that they knew they were regularly, especially

1437
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: in my AP class, especially people that I had known

1438
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: since we were in kindergarten, will say, you're basically white.

1439
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: You're so different from everyone else. They really thought that

1440
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: shit was a compliment. That's dude, that's the nicest thing

1441
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: you could say to me, was that I was white.

1442
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 2: This this went off for quite a while. Yeah, let

1443
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: me stop real real right quick real here too. Let

1444
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: me stop real quick right here too. So that thing

1445
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 2: of whiteness as a compliment, not every black person is

1446
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: able to grasp that it is not. And there are

1447
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 2: some black people that walk around like like, yes, I'm

1448
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: such a white black person. I'm so special, and they

1449
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: talk about it. You know, there's broke them in.

1450
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: That's it. That's a technique to rope people in.

1451
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you truly believe like you are actually

1452
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: believing in supporting white supremacy with you when you start

1453
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: walking around like I'm superior because I'm the closer I'm

1454
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: to white. And for the record, it's not just a

1455
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 2: nerd shit, and this I don't know how to I

1456
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: want to say this with kindness, and I'm not one

1457
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: hundreds since sure how to say it. But I've seen

1458
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: black people say stuff like I talk white, that don't

1459
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 2: talk white. I've seen black people call themselves like light

1460
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: skin but because you know, they're attractive, but they're not

1461
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 2: really light skin, like it's some trick in our minds

1462
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: of like I to compliment myself, I'm pushing myself closer

1463
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 2: to whiteness even though I'm not really this way. You

1464
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: know those black people that, like almost every black person

1465
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: I know will tell you at some point they were

1466
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: accused of talking white and they all talk different, correct,

1467
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they weren't accused, but like they

1468
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: shouldn't hold on it that shit, because you should have.

1469
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 2: At least in my mind, I immediately put it out

1470
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: my head like I don't talk white. That's ridiculous, all right? Then?

1471
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, yeah, I've been accused of that too.

1472
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 2: Right, Karen talking white y'all listen to Karen talk every

1473
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: fucking day at this show. I know none of y'all

1474
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 2: black ass has been listening to show going it's right

1475
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 2: on there with a white woman. Ever. No, So, so

1476
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: my point is, if you stick with it or call

1477
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: it a badge of honor or just denotes me from

1478
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 2: these other black people, that says more about you than

1479
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: it says about because I think every black person gets

1480
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: told that at some point.

1481
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,640
Speaker 1: Especially if you quote unquote talk proper around them and

1482
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 1: they don't know the other side because every most people

1483
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: code twitch.

1484
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 4: Well.

1485
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: Also, just white people think it's a compliment. They like you.

1486
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 2: They want to say you're almost white. It's like you're

1487
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 2: a white person. It's like you're one of the family, you.

1488
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: Know, like until you're not no more.

1489
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, But they also just have not thought about

1490
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 2: it being offensive, correct, you know what I'm saying, Like

1491
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: they just they think it's a compliment. It's the most

1492
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: innocuous thing they could say. It's like when gods say

1493
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: to women all the time, uh, you're like one of

1494
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 2: the guys, and how many women are like, yeah, I'm

1495
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: like a girl. God's girl. You know, I watch sports,

1496
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: so I do this, and it's like they're they're kind

1497
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: of shitting on women, like they might like you might

1498
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: feel like they're complimenting you, but they're kind of also going, no,

1499
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 2: woman could be cool, but you're cool. So I was

1500
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 2: making exception to say, you're a guy's got you're you're

1501
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: one of the good ones. And it's like, m this

1502
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 2: guy might have some issues around women, you know. So

1503
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: it's it's kind of that thing where but yeah, I

1504
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: know I've seen that phenomenon before. If someone will tell

1505
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: you like, yeah, you know, I know I have a

1506
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: white talking voice, and I'm like, no, the fuck you don't.

1507
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: Who the fuck told you that? You know? Well, you

1508
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: know it's a light skinned woman. I'm like, you're not

1509
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: a light skinned baby. When we pull out this paper bag,

1510
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want Yeah, I'm not trying I

1511
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 2: take nothing away from you, but you're just a regular

1512
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: brown nigga. You look good, You're very beautiful, you know,

1513
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 2: but you don't have to be light skinned to be beautiful,

1514
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: you know alone. Anyway, total side, It eventually escalated to

1515
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: my entire AP English class having this discussion on how

1516
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: I should just paint my skin white because I was

1517
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: so smart and so not black. Wow, my entire class

1518
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: had this discussion, the teachers just sitting there watching it happen. Eventually,

1519
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 2: after I kept trying to passively get everyone to move on,

1520
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 2: the teacher finally listened and got us back to reading.

1521
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: But that shit was completely fucked up. This bitch in

1522
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 2: the class took it a step further, and a few

1523
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: days later she came into class and pulled out paint

1524
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 2: swatches and handed them to me. She literally stopped at

1525
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 2: loads on her way to school and grabbed a shit

1526
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: ton of fucking white paint samples to give it to

1527
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: me to keep the joke going. I was furious and

1528
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: just looked at her like what the fuck. She was

1529
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 2: laughing and didn't seem to care about my anger until

1530
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: someone else in the class agreed with me and told

1531
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: her that it wasn't funny, And then the rest of

1532
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: the class followed suit because this one white person finally

1533
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: stood up for me. People are sheep like that like

1534
01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: so in.

1535
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: Some ways it gives me I hope about the world

1536
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: that people are sheep like that, and in some ways

1537
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 1: it's it's absolutely the worst thing about humanity, you know,

1538
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: like you just need one person to speak of and

1539
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 1: then everybody good or bad goes yeah.

1540
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, Yeah, yeah, that's that's ridiculous. Bady

1541
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 2: like y'all niggas was sitting here clowning and laughing yesterday.

1542
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: One person goes, guys, uh Jerry saying is fucked up,

1543
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: And I gotta agree with him, it is fucked up

1544
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 2: with y'all doing to him. Oh you know what, never

1545
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: thought about it that way. Shame on you, Susan forgetting

1546
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,879
Speaker 2: the paint swatches to the jokes that we made yesterday.

1547
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 2: Everybody looked at her like she was fucked up and

1548
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: that she had crossed the line. One of my friends

1549
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: got up and grabbed the paint swatches from me, tossed

1550
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 2: them in the trash. She looked so confused as to

1551
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 2: how she was in the wrong. She just knew that

1552
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: everyone would laugh with her. And I said, I thought

1553
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: everyone would it too. I was surprised that anyone had

1554
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 2: my back with this. What the truth is. They knew

1555
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: that they had to protect their special black friend. And

1556
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 2: as soon as all right, yep, cause soon as you

1557
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: see through the book shit, and as soon as I

1558
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: stopped being able to be cool while telling them to

1559
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 2: shut up and fuck off or laugh it off. They

1560
01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: stepped in. I only wish that who I am now

1561
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: was back in that situation, because I would never have

1562
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: let that go on for as long as they did.

1563
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 2: I would happily be the angry black woman that with

1564
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: only a few friends, rather than the special black person

1565
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 2: that all the white people just love to call their friend.

1566
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: Right, Because that's the thing when you're young, and like

1567
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: you say, these are your peers, because they pull you

1568
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 1: out and they separate you from everybody else to put

1569
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: you in these ap classes.

1570
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 4: That's strategically done. And it's a lot of niggas that.

1571
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: Actually, if the scenarios and situations were better, or if

1572
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: the test wouldn't structure a certain way, it's a lot

1573
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: more niggas that actually should be in.

1574
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 4: These higher level classes.

1575
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of times, a lot of brown children

1576
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: aren't even considered, aren't even talked about, aren't even thought about.

1577
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 4: Being pushed up into these higher level courses.

1578
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: It's on purpose too, So the few niggas that actually excel,

1579
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: whether you can't ignore them, I'm putting these classes.

1580
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,919
Speaker 4: It's almost like a separating divide.

1581
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's also just you want to denote whiteness is good.

1582
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: So right, if you're good at school, then guess what,

1583
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 2: you're getting closer to the whiteness. It's like you're one

1584
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: of the good ones. You're almost white. You know, such

1585
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: a it's such a fucked up cycle.

1586
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 1: Right, And it's one of the things too, to where

1587
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: like you say, it was that complicency, and it was,

1588
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: like you said, you get around people that your friends,

1589
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to upset them.

1590
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 4: You don't want to make them mad. You don't want

1591
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 4: to be the angry black person.

1592
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: And when you're growing up and you're young some and

1593
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: it's just a growth process. They are things that you

1594
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: just don't know, like like a lot of times when

1595
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: you're young, like that, you don't know that you got

1596
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: rights to stand up, like you don't know that you

1597
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: know at the end, at the end or in the

1598
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 1: middle of this, you know, who knows how it would

1599
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: have been handled, but you know, go to the principp like, hey,

1600
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: this teacher is letting this bullshit happen and I'm not

1601
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: here for it, you know, like the teacher should have

1602
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 1: been held accountable for letting it linger that long without

1603
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: stepping in.

1604
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I mean we all have shit like that

1605
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: where it's like if I could go back now right,

1606
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: all right, then we had really dark knight, says Mattress.

1607
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: Mac had to watch the City of Houston give y'all

1608
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: ostin that award. It said to himself, ate that a bitch, Right,

1609
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,839
Speaker 2: if you're black and walk into a didnis you like slavery?

1610
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: Peace right? Hate to blame the hate, the blame of income.

1611
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, come on, guys, this is a that

1612
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 2: was pretty open and shutcase.

1613
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: Come on.

1614
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 2: And then we had the poll, which was have you

1615
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 2: ever cried during a Pixar movie? Yes? No? Or I've

1616
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: never seen one. Zero percent of y'all have never seen one,

1617
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 2: which that's good to know. Seventy four percent of y'all

1618
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: have cried during the Pixar movie. I haven't. You never

1619
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: cried during the Pixar movie?

1620
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: Okay, but there's some I will admit, I don't know

1621
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: if some I have not watched, Like.

1622
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 2: Have you ever cried during a movie? That's a good

1623
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: ques question, right, so you don't you just not touch

1624
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: your feelings. You don't understand it's not bad, It's okay,

1625
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 2: it's fine not you look you're an ice queen.

1626
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 4: And I'm I clar I'm not ice cold. No, I

1627
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,759
Speaker 4: am not cry during movies. I mean, I'm not ice cold.

1628
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: And I know you avoid trying to cry at all consequences.

1629
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 2: You want to watch This is Us because you heard

1630
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: that there's a chance you might shed a tear, so

1631
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 2: you avoid the greatest show on TV. So, I mean,

1632
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: I think it kind of speaks for yourself. Your track

1633
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 2: record says a lot about you.

1634
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 4: I am not ice cold, and I promise y'all, I do.

1635
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 2: Have feelings and emotion. What movie you cried there?

1636
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:37,719
Speaker 4: I don't remember right.

1637
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: The pole? So seventy four percent half cried during the

1638
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 2: Pixar movie and are have not?

1639
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, it's up Pixar, I've never seen up.

1640
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's some stuff I haven't seen.

1641
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: So like, what would be the difference between those and

1642
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: the ones you have seen? You watch Coco and didn't cry?

1643
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: So you just a heartless person? Fine, I am not

1644
01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: It's fine, Mike, and London says yes. During Inside Out,

1645
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: Raven says, I finally watched Coco last weekend on Netflix

1646
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: and I wept. Beautiful movie very touching. Yeah, I know

1647
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: I cried during Malana, which I don't know if that's

1648
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 2: picksar or not, but that.

1649
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: One got me to go see that with later bently.

1650
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: Nope, I saw it at home on Netflix.

1651
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 4: Oh it was something else and went to go see Okay, yeah,

1652
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 4: I seen that.

1653
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: I seen Milana. I don't know if I watched it

1654
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 1: with you or not. I might have watched it when

1655
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: he was watching it again, I don't know.

1656
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 2: Tiffany says, Hey, y'all, being a listener out of Htown,

1657
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 2: just want to let you know that Trade the Truth

1658
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: and Mattress Mac were out by the city earlier this year.

1659
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Not sure why they are talking about that. Inspirational speaking

1660
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 2: the news now, shaking my head. Trade the Truth was

1661
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 2: trade a that's taking place for at least ten years

1662
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 2: that provides a ton of services for community for the community.

1663
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 2: It's including of back to school supplies, HIV testing, and

1664
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: there's even a free concert. Wow.

1665
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 4: When people talking about the community, that's the shit they

1666
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: talking about right there.

1667
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 2: This year does a great turnout within the community along

1668
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: with celebrities and community leaders. I don't think Mattress Max

1669
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 2: had stopped being honored lol. With all that he's still

1670
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 2: doing for families out here. Earlier this summer, he announced

1671
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 2: plans to use a surplus space and bigger stores into

1672
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: the community centers, teaching job skills out teaching job skills,

1673
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: and forming partnerships with a couple community colleges, the Houston

1674
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Area Urban League and U of H. Just start. I'd

1675
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: share that if so with you and with y'all to

1676
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: let you know that we most definitely care about the

1677
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: real heroes who don't wear cage, take care and God bless.

1678
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: That's what's up, Tiffany, right, you know you want to

1679
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 1: go to go to osting, like why are you doing this?

1680
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? His shit just feels political because it was. I

1681
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,559
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, anyway, even he says, I cried during

1682
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 2: every single Pixar film because they tugget the hard strings,

1683
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: especially Up that movie tought me up. I cried during

1684
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: that short before The Incredibles too, with the Asian mother

1685
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: and the pork bun. Anyone who says they haven't cried

1686
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: during the Pixar's either liar or a Trump supporter or

1687
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: the Feds. Oh line, So I don't know which one

1688
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: caring is. I don't know either, but she's either lying

1689
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: or something. Mm hm, M all right, last thing emails

1690
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: all right, Keana Road in three different emails, let me

1691
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: get to these. She says, bridezillas are draining. I used

1692
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: to do wedding decorating, and unfortunately the whole you can't

1693
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: be in my wedding if you're pregnant is a thing.

1694
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: A lot of babies don't, a lot of brides don't

1695
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: want to share their attention, even with the groom. The

1696
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 2: story about the girl getting kicked out of the wedding

1697
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: after getting pregnant was so real, especially after all the

1698
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 2: nastiness about her pregnancy and then her miscarrying. Oh girl

1699
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: was Maddie's best friend, but Maddie was never hers. Love y'all.

1700
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 2: Next one, Let's see him my bride's made story. Okay,

1701
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: I own. I'm listening to episode seventeen thirty six again

1702
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 2: and realized I have a wedding story. I used to

1703
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: work at a retail store when I was in my

1704
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: teens and twenties and became really good friends with one

1705
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: of my coworkers. We were so close that he called

1706
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 2: me his little sister. I knew all his family, he

1707
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: knew mine. He is actually the person who introduced me

1708
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 2: to my boyfriend. Anyway, he was living with a woman

1709
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 2: when he ran to our old girlfriend. Him and the

1710
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: old girlfriend started dating. After some years of drama, they

1711
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 2: decided to get married. I no longer worked for the company,

1712
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: but we were still friends, so they called me together

1713
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 2: to give me the news and asked me if I

1714
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 2: would be a bridesmaid since I was his little sister.

1715
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Bout a month later, the bride and I started meeting

1716
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: to go over wedding details, and although I was super

1717
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 2: financially strapped because I had lost my job, I went

1718
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 2: dress shopping with her and bought my dress. She scheduled

1719
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 2: a bride a party meeting about ten months before the wedding,

1720
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: which I was unable to attend because my uncle had

1721
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: suffered a stroke and my mother was his medical power

1722
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: of attorney. I was running her to the hospital almost

1723
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: every day. I let my homeboy know and kept pushing.

1724
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,160
Speaker 2: I didn't hear anything back, but I figured so one

1725
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: would call me for the next meeting. I ended up

1726
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: running someone and brought a party a couple months later,

1727
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: and he briefed me on the meeting and we started

1728
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 2: talking about the outfits. He told me how pretty the

1729
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 2: yellow dresses were for my dresses Cranberry. I asked him

1730
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: he was sure about the color and he confirmed. I

1731
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: called my friend to ask him what was going on.

1732
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 2: He told me it's fiance didn't want me in the

1733
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 2: wedding anymore, but didn't tell me why. He said he

1734
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: had told her that she needed to be the one

1735
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: to tell me, but no one ever called it the

1736
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: liver the news Wow. I called his mom to ask

1737
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 2: if she knew what was up, and Mama told me

1738
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 2: it was because I Fianza thought I was having a

1739
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 2: sexual relationship with him, which just no, that's that's where

1740
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 2: men and women can't be friends. Strikes again, right, men

1741
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: and women can't be friends or they fucking like, okay,

1742
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: so now I can't be in the wedding because and

1743
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: you should.

1744
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 1: Have told me this, but don't fucking waste my time.

1745
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: You had a problem from the very beginning.

1746
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 2: Also, like if I'm fucking your man, how me not

1747
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: being in the wedding gonna change anything? I mean, if

1748
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: that was even true, right, Like, if I was fucking

1749
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 2: your man, your thing was like, I don't want her

1750
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: to be in the wedding because I think y'all have

1751
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 2: a sexual relationship. Okay, Well, I mean you didn't say

1752
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 2: stop fucking her just she came't be in the wedding, right.

1753
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 2: The crazy thing was she was cheating on my friend. Wow,

1754
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 2: so I guess she figured he was doing the same thing.

1755
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 2: She just do that. She does always be suspicious as

1756
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 2: fucked dog. They can't help it. They're like, if I

1757
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,680
Speaker 2: can cheat on somebody so easily, how is it not

1758
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: happening to me? After the relationship with my homie was

1759
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: strained because she didn't want us to be friends or

1760
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 2: talk anymore, they sensed the vorce. I saw him at

1761
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: Costco last summer. We exchanged numbers out of a sense

1762
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 2: of trying to clear the air. But we'll never really

1763
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: be friends again, well correct. I lost my one of

1764
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: my best friends from high school behind some bullshit like this,

1765
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: Like her man just not was not comfortable with the

1766
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: fact that me and her were just really fucking good friends.

1767
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 4: Like actually really do miss her.

1768
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing sexual, there's nothing weird about it, like

1769
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, I like and there was no like boundaries,

1770
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 2: cost or anything on my side, like we were I

1771
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: remember one time we went on a retreat and like

1772
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 2: you know, they were doing this thing where it's like, oh, people,

1773
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 2: you can stay in any room you want to, you

1774
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 2: stay in your friend's room. And I was like, no,

1775
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm stay in my room. Uh She's like, you don't

1776
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 2: want to sleep in my rooms? Like no, Like it's like,

1777
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: it's we're cool. That's like, that's it. You know you're

1778
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: my friend. It's not. It's nothing weird like that. And

1779
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't also like she was propositioning me. It was

1780
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: just like we was that close. And uh, plus I

1781
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 2: got drunk on mad dog, I had no business. I

1782
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:31,840
Speaker 2: need to go lay down in my room in case

1783
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 2: I threw up.

1784
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 4: Yah.

1785
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 2: But then I still remember it was weird because she

1786
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: was a very pretty girl. I still remember we were

1787
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: so tight. Everybody in our internship program would be like,

1788
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 2: y'all fucking man, So, y'all y'all dating us. I'm like, no, uh, right,

1789
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 2: I met your girlfriend? I mean you cheating on her

1790
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: or something like no, nigga, that what are you doing?

1791
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: That's my friend?

1792
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 4: But like my girlfriend knows about her.

1793
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, man, So if I holler at her, you

1794
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be mad. Why the fuck would I be?

1795
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 2: What is heaven?

1796
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: Right?

1797
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 2: Like, what is this if okay imadgine she was a dude,

1798
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 2: if you came over and said, hey, would you be

1799
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 2: mad if I hollered at justin real quick? I wouldn't

1800
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 2: be like nigga na, you know that's my motherfucking friend, right,

1801
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, you know, come on, now, you're violating the game,

1802
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: Like I feel like, no, of course, do what you

1803
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: need to do. Like but it was it was, but

1804
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: it was that whole mentality like men and women can't

1805
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 2: be friends, and it eventually did. It rolled our friendship

1806
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:29,799
Speaker 2: down to where we were not able to be friends

1807
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 2: between her boyfriend and between other people like assuming shit

1808
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,839
Speaker 2: ends up. I lost a friendship behind that bullshit.

1809
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: It was a beaut of friendship, like she met family

1810
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 1: and everything, like y'all are really really close. And that

1811
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,400
Speaker 1: was kind of hurt to see this, to see the

1812
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: relationship kind.

1813
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: Of it was wild because everybody assumed it and then

1814
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 2: it was just they would hang out with us a

1815
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,879
Speaker 2: little bit and realized, oh, there's nothing there, like that's

1816
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 2: like it wasn't on something like you discussing, like it

1817
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: wasn't like that. It was just kind of like I

1818
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 2: don't know, like how you just look at like a

1819
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: family member, something like, why would y'all suggest that this

1820
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 2: is my friend? That's fine? Is everybody okay? Now? Like,

1821
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 2: but you're being friends with an attractive woman, You're not

1822
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 2: trying to fuck her? I know. It's the darned this thing.

1823
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 2: It's crazy right, Like it's it's like everyone was just

1824
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: stopping me every fire, but that woman's attractive. I'm like, yeah,

1825
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 2: she's yes, okay.

1826
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't want her like that, like and

1827
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: then she don't want me, so can we just can

1828
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: everybody calm down?

1829
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 4: Right?

1830
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 2: Anyway? That was the worst man, And that happened years ago,

1831
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: and I still think about that sometimes. I'm like, damn,

1832
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,799
Speaker 2: that was what a whack way to lose a friendship.

1833
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: And it looked like that happened with this woman basically

1834
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:46,200
Speaker 2: saying nah, you know, And I do recognize that that's

1835
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 2: a thing in relationships, like especially when you're starting out,

1836
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,640
Speaker 2: Like I'm not even really trying to necessarily judge on

1837
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: the idea of like your relationship is fucked up, but

1838
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 2: she like, I can see how too well meaning people

1839
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 2: still rive at this point where her like I want

1840
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 2: to I don't know this, nigga, I do know you

1841
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 2: and I want blah blah blah. I can see how

1842
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 2: that happens, especially when you're young, right, he said, what

1843
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,240
Speaker 2: like twenties or something. I can see how that happens.

1844
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 4: You get older, You're like, shit, you gotta deal with this.

1845
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: You gotta be more secure than this if you're gonna

1846
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,679
Speaker 2: fuck with me at a certain age. Right. The fact

1847
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 2: that she was cheating seems like the part that's the

1848
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: worst to.

1849
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: Me, right, ruining a friendship that would never, like you said,

1850
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 1: never be the same, because you're like, well, you allow

1851
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: this person to to to kill our relationship and you.

1852
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 4: Didn't even have the courtesy to contact me just to confirm.

1853
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 2: That she did well. The extra level to me is this,

1854
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 2: I bet he can never be friends with you again

1855
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 2: because he's embarrassed at how weak he was to let

1856
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 2: that shit happen in the first place, Because that's just

1857
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 2: fucked up. Did they even pay for your dress anyway?

1858
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 2: So I ended up losing someone I thought that was

1859
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: a really good friend and reliable friend. And the money

1860
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: for my dress, damn. So they didn't even pay you

1861
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 2: for this? That's tacky as fuck. Wow, And he knew

1862
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,240
Speaker 2: better because if he wasn't fucking you. Then he needed

1863
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 2: to give give you some money for your dress because

1864
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: that's fucked up, right. I don't understand these people. That's

1865
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 2: like my wife just crazy. I'm sorry, Like, how the

1866
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,839
Speaker 2: fuck is that an excuse for what you did to me? Niggas?

1867
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 2: Like right, fix your shit. So ary, you dated the

1868
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: crazy person, but I want my money back. Robert can

1869
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: glass at these nuts at Keanu, she says personally. When

1870
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: Rod said, niggas, you can't work with him and you

1871
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 2: can't leave him at home, I hollered. Secondly, whoo child.

1872
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 2: There's so much I want to say, but I will

1873
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 2: leave it at three things. One. I did a short

1874
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: stand as a songwriter. Unknown artists often write songs from

1875
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:38,599
Speaker 2: a famous artist as a way to get that foot

1876
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 2: in the door. When that happens, the artists can negotiate

1877
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 2: to get the credits or sell all the rights to

1878
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 2: the songs to take the payout. It's fairly common practice,

1879
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: so it doesn't sound like anybody stole anything from his homeboys.

1880
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 2: They sold the rights to their songs. A lot of

1881
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 2: niggas phase or not phased, like r Kelly, work with

1882
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 2: folks who will let them take the songwriting credits. Lo

1883
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,479
Speaker 2: Ki does an insane amount of money to be made

1884
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 2: a songwright and produce it. Mm hmm, especially ghosts. I

1885
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: think in this case them suing. I wonder how much

1886
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 2: of that is because the fucking immeasurable amount of success

1887
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: to that fucking album had. And then it's like, oh

1888
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 2: the money.

1889
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: If I would have known this, I would have negotiated different. Right,

1890
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:16,799
Speaker 1: if this ship would have flopped, I mean, we wouldn't

1891
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 1: being caught.

1892
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 2: But uh uh, I see, I see you said another record?

1893
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: Can we can we talk about this number two? If

1894
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,599
Speaker 2: Lauren is such a trash as, why did he repeatedly

1895
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 2: work with her or for her? I don't understand that,

1896
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 2: Like dog she trash? Right? Then don't go. You know

1897
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: what I do when somebody I don't like ask me

1898
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 2: to do something, I say no. Can you imagine looking

1899
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: on TV and we on the Charlemagne Show, Will y'all

1900
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: be like these niggas?

1901
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 4: Wow, I wan't be like these niggas?

1902
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 2: And then I'm sitting there here and walking around talking

1903
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 2: about some man. First of all the way he treats

1904
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 2: people as fucked up man. So I took the money,

1905
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 2: but listen, I was like, you done did several of

1906
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 2: my friends wrong, like y'all been, Like Yo, Roder's kind

1907
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: of on some bullshit. Three. We give such a broad

1908
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 2: cover for trash ass men when we label them as genius.

1909
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 2: We never get at the women. Women are divas, men

1910
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 2: are creative genius. It's a huge old standard. Number four.

1911
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 2: And she ain't hurt nobody number four. I know, I

1912
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: said three, but for reals, Robert can Glass at these nuts,

1913
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 2: love y'all. I agree. Yeah. See that's the other thing too.

1914
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: If it would have been Quincy Jones that treated him

1915
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 2: like that, he would have never said that shit either.

1916
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: Pete Gang, you're Bob Well, he deserved to treat me

1917
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 2: like that. He just don't respect Lauren Hill and so

1918
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 2: she can't treat them bad in his mind. Lastly, seventeen

1919
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: thirty seven, Robert Glass straws by a leg. She says hello,

1920
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,560
Speaker 2: roding Care episode seventeen thirty seven, Struggle Core with Me.

1921
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: The conversation that I think came from talking about Papa

1922
01:35:47,120 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 2: John Rebrandon was poignant. You two talked about how there

1923
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 2: is a faction of blacks who essentially began rediscovering their

1924
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 2: blackness after the election, who otherwise were somewhat uncomfortable in

1925
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 2: white spaces. I had to check myself because I spent

1926
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 2: a lot of time growing up being the only or

1927
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 2: one of the few in white spaces. While you two

1928
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 2: had your discussion, I had to self evaluate. Though I

1929
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: found joy in white culture, I always knew that I

1930
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 2: was the odd person. I was very aware proud of

1931
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 2: my blackness within these spaces. Yes, it's a fine line

1932
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: because like a lot of times, to make you feel

1933
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 2: like you have to erase your blackness to stay in

1934
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: the space, and if you fight against it, then you

1935
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of become the odd duck. Like you said, it

1936
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, I mean I like Allegor, she's cool man,

1937
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 2: be trumpled with your saying around her and shit like that,

1938
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: as opposed to just like, yeah, we're gonna respect the homie.

1939
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 2: She's black and she likes Stilly Dan. We both love

1940
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Stilly Dan. We'll see her at the concert, you know.

1941
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: And then you have to actually come to the conclusion

1942
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: where if it's a problem, we can't be friends.

1943
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 2: Right.

1944
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: That's very hard for younger people to understand, because you

1945
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: want to be accepted. You don't want to be the

1946
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: odd man. Now, you know, you don't want to be

1947
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: looked at and frowned upon him on your PIDs.

1948
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 4: But you get older, you like bitchiness is.

1949
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Who I am, and we can't be friends if you

1950
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 1: can't respect me and my boundaries.

1951
01:36:59,120 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: You got to go.

1952
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Treyvon and Obama and certain events have kind

1953
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: of made it so black people, even black people in

1954
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: those spaces. Was like, I think, y'all need to understand

1955
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 2: there's a limit to all this like tolerant shit that

1956
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm putting up with. I guess my point is that,

1957
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,880
Speaker 2: as usual, you two make me think and rethink, which

1958
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 2: I love. I always had a little inkling in the

1959
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,800
Speaker 2: pit of my stomach that the other shoe would drop,

1960
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,559
Speaker 2: especially after two terms of our real president when Trump

1961
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 2: was getting closer, very closer. I knew the gig would

1962
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 2: soon be up, but I tried to have hope. It's

1963
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 2: interesting to see and participate in reclaiming of our time.

1964
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: I can't help but be a little bitter, though, because

1965
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: I know a bit of our history and how it repeats.

1966
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 2: His racism goes through a rebranding each time. Anyway, Sorry

1967
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 2: to ramble, but wanted to share my stream of thoughts

1968
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,759
Speaker 2: and response to John and his new pr attempts always

1969
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 2: love Allegra. Also, we was on that show y'all called

1970
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:52,679
Speaker 2: music Ate My Brain. We did a list of rundown

1971
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 2: countdown of our favorite problematic songs. Listen, y'all need to

1972
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 2: listen to the episode We Have All you need. If

1973
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: you like this show, you need to listen to that

1974
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 2: episode so you can hear the ship that Karen and

1975
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 2: I and Allegra and oh why am I drawing blank

1976
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 2: on her husband's name? Starts with the M Mariano, Mariano?

1977
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 2: Why did how did that? Was weird? Brain fart? Anyway,

1978
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 2: Allegra and Mariano and me and Karen just went in

1979
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: on some problematic ass songs. I'm not gonna spoil it

1980
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 2: for you. People was asking see people guessing artists is

1981
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: R Kelly and all this stuff. I'll tell you this

1982
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 2: much because I don't want y'all to show up and

1983
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: be like, I'm boycott and R. Kelly and y'all forced

1984
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 2: me to listen to it. No R Kelly is on

1985
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: anyone's list, okay, because they were problematic. Fave songs not problematic.

1986
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: I can't even listen to shit, no more songs. But

1987
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: there it was a really good episode. Music Ate my

1988
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Brain is the name of it. I think it's Core

1989
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 2: temp Arts is on on their on iTunes and stitching

1990
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 2: and stuff, so yeah, check it out. It was so fun.

1991
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 2: We had a great time. I'm not gonna spoil the

1992
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: songs you've been listening to show a long time, though.

1993
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna know some of these songs and be like,

1994
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,479
Speaker 2: oh my god, I remember this song. All right, y'all,

1995
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: that's it until next time. I love you, I love

1996
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 2: you too. Why