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Speaker 1: We're gonna be covering the Steve Nash firing, which is

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Speaker 1: obviously the biggest story of the day. After the Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: the coach is the least of their problems. The Golden

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Speaker 1: State Warriors lost their third consecutive game, a tough one,

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Speaker 1: some of their issues with their bench cropping up again.

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Speaker 1: And then the Philadelphia seventies six Ers, a team that

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Speaker 1: They were struggling because they weren't defending, and they weren't

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Speaker 1: it's far more likely that those guys aren't ready and

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Speaker 1: at the reality the situation, which is your starting lineup

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Speaker 1: they were like a hundred and twenty seven offensive rating

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Speaker 1: or was more or less the same level of dominance.

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Speaker 1: But you're falling off a cliff when you go to

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Speaker 1: your bench. So you can either bank on that improving

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Speaker 1: And I'm really curious to see which direction they start

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Speaker 1: and talk about the sixers for a minute. So they

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Speaker 1: started one in four, but like I said, they had

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Speaker 1: some fixable problems. If you remember, they were second in

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Speaker 1: five game stretch, I went over some metrics like Tyrese

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Speaker 1: Maxie was having the highest scoring season of his career

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Speaker 1: on the high and also on like fifty eight percentury

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Speaker 1: his first year with the Sixers shooting over from three.

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Speaker 1: James Harden has had a lot of really good games,

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Speaker 1: Joel Embiad has still been every bit as productive as

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Speaker 1: usually is. Everyone's great offensively, and the team is scoring really,

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Speaker 1: end of the floor, particularly in transition. They were the

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Speaker 1: worst transition defense in the league by a mile, and specifically,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that was causing those problems was

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Speaker 1: flail and complain to the refs and not run back

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Speaker 1: on defense, which, for the record, is a problem that

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of scoring bigs in the league have,

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Speaker 1: including Anthony Davis for the Lakers, who probably would be

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Speaker 1: your early season defensive Player of the Year candidate if

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Speaker 1: he didn't have so many bad transition defense UH games

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Speaker 1: mixed in at that point, and he might still be,

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Speaker 1: but that's his big weakness. A lot of biggs, particularly

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Speaker 1: ones that take a lot of shots around the rim,

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Speaker 1: difficult shots. They they struggle running up and down the floor,

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Speaker 1: and it's been killing the Sixers and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of metrics that kind of show that. So since the

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Speaker 1: one in four start, they beat Toronto, they beat Chicago,

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Speaker 1: that three game span. According to Cleaning the Glass, the

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Speaker 1: UH Sixers were twelve in transition defense instead as a

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Speaker 1: result in that game. In that span, they've only given

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Speaker 1: up a hundred and five point eight points per one

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Speaker 1: hunter possessions, which ranks third in defense among every team

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Speaker 1: over their last three games. Overall on this season, the

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Speaker 1: Sixers are twenty nine point one points per one h

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Speaker 1: possessions better in transition defense with them beat off the floor.

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Speaker 1: According to Cleaning the Glass, they're just quicker and they

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Speaker 1: do better in that open floor game. It's not really

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Speaker 1: all that complicated. If you have an amazing offense, which

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Speaker 1: the Sixers do, and you also defend, you're gonna win

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Speaker 1: basketball games. Early in the season, they weren't defending in

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Speaker 1: large part in transition. In the last three games, they've

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Speaker 1: been defending especially well in transition compared to the way

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Speaker 1: they usually do, and they're winning basketball games. They're getting

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Speaker 1: great offensive production, right Like Tyrie Smax he was great

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Speaker 1: against Toronto UM and beat himself, was great against Chicago.

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Speaker 1: James Harden had a seventeen assist game against Washington the

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Speaker 1: other night. But that's not the issue. The issue was

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Speaker 1: never the offensive end of the floor. They just needed

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Speaker 1: to clean up the details. And if you guys remember,

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Speaker 1: I did a whole thing on Doc Rivers, and again, like,

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Speaker 1: if the Sixers decide to let's say that this three

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Speaker 1: game stretches an anomaly and then they go back down

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Speaker 1: and have a bunch of issues, I would understand moving

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Speaker 1: on from Doc Rivers. He's not personally my favorite coach anyway,

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to just how stubborn he is and

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Speaker 1: how slow he is to adjust in a playoff environment.

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Speaker 1: But if they if the Sixers decided to move on

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Speaker 1: from Doc, I would understand that and support that because

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Speaker 1: this particular group up until this three game stretch wasn't

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Speaker 1: really tuned into what he's been asking them to do

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Speaker 1: on the defensive end of the floor. So at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, though, like we talked about, the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Brooklyn, same thing with the Lakers. The

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Speaker 1: reason why the Lakers are defending better under Darvin Ham

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Speaker 1: is the players are defending better. They're just playing harder.

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Speaker 1: Some of its scheme, most of it is effort. The

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Speaker 1: Nets aren't going to improve defensively until those guys start

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Speaker 1: actually doing the work. In the same thing goes for

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Speaker 1: the Sixers. They've done the work for three games and

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Speaker 1: they've won three games as a result. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the players do have to do the work.

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Speaker 1: You're just paying attention to whether or not those players

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Speaker 1: are bought into their head coach. But a lot of

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Speaker 1: basketball left. But the Sixers look winning cures everything they were.

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Speaker 1: They lost a game to San Antonio the other night

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Speaker 1: or last weekend, I think, and it looked like the

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Speaker 1: guy was falling. But then you go out and you

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Speaker 1: win a couple of basketball games, everything looks fine. The

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Speaker 1: Lakers are gonna play the Pelicans at home tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: If they beat the Pelicans, and I don't feel great

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Speaker 1: about it right now, but if they beat the Pelicans,

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Speaker 1: you can take a deep breath and go, Okay, we've

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Speaker 1: figured some stuff out where the one of the best

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Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Now we're winning games. Brooklyn. If

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Speaker 1: you just play defense in the fourth quarter and you

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Speaker 1: get a better shooting performance out of Kyrie Irving, you

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Speaker 1: beat the Chicago Bulls tonight, you're on a two game

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Speaker 1: winning streak. Things start to look better. There's all. It's

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Speaker 1: never too late to change the way you're playing. If

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Speaker 1: you especially these super talented teams, if you start playing well,

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Speaker 1: you'll start winning games. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the players are the ones that have to do the work,

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Speaker 1: all right. That is all I have for tonight. The

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Speaker 1: plan for tomorrow is we'll be doing a show like

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Speaker 1: this on AMP right after the Celtics Cavaliers rematch, which

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for, in the early slate, and then

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night Pelicans Lakers will be going live on YouTube

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Speaker 1: right after the final buzzer of that game. As always,

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Speaker 1: I sincerely appreciate you guys support and I will see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. The volume