1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: It's that time time time luck and load. So Michael 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Arry Show is on the air. I've had joys. 3 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: Since the day that I was boss. 4 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Voice carefully I told me right from wrong. 5 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: If I have to listen. 6 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't be here the joyving and die with 7 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 4: the choices I've made. 8 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: I was tempted. 9 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: By an early age. 10 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: I found I like drink. 11 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: Oh, and I never turned it down. 12 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 5: Every loved one, but I turned them all over on 13 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: loving and die with. 14 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: The choices I've made. I've had choices. 15 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Since the day that I was born. There revoice. 16 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: That told me right from long if I had listen. 17 00:01:53,360 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't need hear to dieving, die with the choices. 18 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm interesting to me in the course of my life, 19 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: different things that happened that I notice. How we deal 20 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: with the concept of accountability and consequences and how they 21 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: are extolled or forgotten in common conversation and in popular culture. 22 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Really interesting phenomenon to me, because we have a tendency 23 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: to ignore the idea. Do whatever you want, damn the consequences. 24 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: Do what makes you feel good, Do what gives you gratification. 25 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: I think gratification is a better word than happiness, because 26 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: happiness is a silly word, as it's used most. 27 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 6: Of the time. Nobody's walking around and we're happy. We're 28 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 6: all happy all the time, just happy. You'd get bored 29 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 6: being happy, you would. Jordan Peterson has really done some. 30 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Important work on this subject. He's not the first, but 31 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: he's the first to take it to such a big audience. 32 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: And the idea that he has that he has really 33 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: popularized is that the pursuit of happiness per se is 34 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: a fool's errand you never actually achieve happiness. Many people 35 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: are watching pop culture and they think the Kardashians are happy, 36 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: or Diddy is happy, or Epstein is happy, or Lizzo 37 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: or whoever else, and then they're shocked to find out 38 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: that person isn't happy in the sense that they believe 39 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: they would be happy, this euphoria overcoming you at all 40 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: times in warm sensation, and believe it or not, even 41 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: though that person is their hero. That person is they 42 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: would sell off their kidney to get to go to 43 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: a concert, to just be part of a screaming, teeming 44 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: mass of people cheering that that person is singing the 45 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: song they've already heard a thousand times. But in the 46 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: same zip code as them. They're also delighted to learn 47 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: that those people are usually miserable because they have been 48 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: on a journey to the destination of happiness, and as 49 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: it turns out, happiness is not Neverland. So that makes 50 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: him feel good because I may not be happy, but 51 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: it turns out that person is supposed to be happy. 52 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: He's supposed to be happy, and he's not happy. So 53 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: that makes me feel better because I thought he was 54 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: just sitting or just being happy all the time. But 55 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: what Jordan Peterson has done I think groundbreaking work in 56 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: terms of taking it to the masses. As I say, 57 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: it's not the first to come up with this, I 58 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: understand this. The idea that happiness is not the pursuit 59 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: of man should not be the pursuit of man. It's 60 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: a throwaway terms. It's a simplistic term that has become 61 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: a catch all. In economics, we use the term utility. 62 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: It gives some people utility to do this or that. 63 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they're smiling necessarily. If you hate pedophiles and 64 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: you get to be the executioner of pedophiles, doesn't make 65 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: you happy to be the executioner, but it gives you 66 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: utility and Rick Warren in twenty twelve. I think it 67 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: was wrote The Purpose Driven Life, which I actually think 68 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: it was an important book at the time. The idea 69 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: of finding purpose in your life and what you do, 70 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: living purposefully, intentionally, knowing why you're here and what you're doing. 71 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: And I've come to learn that this is why some people, 72 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to use that term, are very happy doing 73 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: a job when they don't need to work anymore. 74 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: You know. 75 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: The Walmart reader kind of went away. I loved the 76 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: Walmart reader. I loved the Walmart reader because so many 77 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: of the Walmart readers didn't need to work. They didn't 78 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: turn the money down because that's what they used to 79 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: buy a cup of coffee while they were there. They 80 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: arrived early, they stayed late, they stayed afterwards. They took 81 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: their penny off and hung around, or kept their penny on. 82 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: They loved to greet people. What a brilliant idea. You 83 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: take this cold, soulless warehouse full of junk that people 84 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: are coming into to grab, most of which they could 85 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: do without, and you put a human face on it, 86 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: a real human face, not a kid on a phone, 87 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: not not somebody disinterested, not somebody checking sports scores or 88 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: texting their buddies or taking Peter pics, a real human 89 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: being in comfortable shoes, welcoming people into your cold, soulless warehouse. 90 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: It was a brilliant a strike, a stroke of brilliance. 91 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: It was a brilliant move. I love everything about it. 92 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: But what it spoke to in me, which I don't 93 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: understand too many years later, was the idea of having purpose. 94 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: I have known so many people over the years who 95 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: cannot wait to retire, and the moment they retire, they 96 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: have the world out of the tail, and within a 97 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: couple of days they realize they've lost their purpose, even 98 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: if work was not their purpose, because they're pulling a paycheck, 99 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: punch in a clock. They they they've lost their routine, 100 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: and in that routine was comfort. You may not like 101 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: your job per se, the actual job, but we put 102 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: some we put some dressing on it. Right. We put 103 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: a writ on the way to your job. You may 104 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: stop and get a kalachi and you really like talking 105 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to the people there at lunch. You might enjoy walking 106 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: across the street and talk on the way home. You 107 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: might Kamala Harris was just officially endorsed by IRS agency. 108 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: Believe it. 109 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 5: Michael Barry show, I'd rather not have that endorsement. 110 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Across the river to die great. Rodney krou Down recorded 111 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: it back in eighteen or nineteen. Some of you will 112 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: have noticed he transposed the names. He said of the 113 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: two friends of his who were border guards who would 114 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: rot in jail, he called them compos and Ramen. It 115 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: was Ramos and Combian. Remember we spent a lot of 116 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: time talking about that case. Remember Border Patrol agent Brian 117 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: Terry I believe was his name. When Eric holders Fast 118 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: and Furious put a bunch of guns illegally on the streets. 119 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: The idea was they would go to Mexico and they 120 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: would kill a bunch of people those guns. They would 121 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: be involved in killings, and the American people would be 122 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: so outraged that we would call for gun control. That's 123 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: what these people are willing to do to get their way. 124 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Collateral damage, human shields, they don't care. You can all 125 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: be sacrificed. They're going to get their way. That story, 126 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: those two Border patrol agents, that was Johnny Sutton was 127 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: the US attorney out somewhere in West Texas, El Paso, 128 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: maybe Laredo, I can't recall who prosecuted them. And Johnny 129 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Sutton's father. 130 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: Was my. 131 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Supervisor on a directed work project I did in law school. 132 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Professor Sutton, he taught ethics and I liked his father 133 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot. I didn't know Johnny. He was a Bush appointee, 134 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: but he had brought that case against Ramos and Compion 135 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: and I was very angry about that. And Johnny is 136 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: a very likable guy. I think he's in private practice now, 137 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: but I remember interviewing him during that time and I said, look, 138 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: I find you to be a very charming person on 139 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: a personal level, very accomplished attorney and now US attorney. 140 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: But I think I think there's a special place in 141 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: hell for prosecuting these two men the way you have. 142 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: I think it's wrong. And the Bushes did a lot 143 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: of this. This is and Romney would do it if 144 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: given the chance. And this is this idea of wanting 145 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: to show see I'm not I'm not like those maga people. 146 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Look at how sensitive I am. You get this from 147 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot of establishment Republicans that they desperately want to 148 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: show how kind and gentle they are so they will 149 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: turn against Greg Abbott. Does it all the time, all 150 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: the time, he will do such a thing. Remember Shelley Luther, 151 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: was that her name, Shelley Luthor, the one had the 152 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: hair salon. He allowed the crackdown on her hair salon 153 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: because that was part of the narrative and he didn't 154 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: want to seem like a person that was going against 155 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: the COVID narrative. Sterling, you're on the Michael Berry Show. 156 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: Go ahead, sir, Good morning, sir. 157 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 3: How you doing. 158 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm good, go ahead. 159 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: Hey. So, my first job in nineteen eighty four, I 160 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: tell everybody I was an aqua flow engineer, but it 161 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: was just a big word for being a water boy 162 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: at a garden center that Forty years later, I'm still 163 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: involved in retail. Just so many lessons you get from 164 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,599 Speaker 3: whether it's fast food or retail. 165 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 7: That. 166 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Have impacted my life and I'm now fixing to be 167 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: fifty four. From how to treat people, how you want 168 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: to be treated, how to treat associates, how not to 169 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: treat associates. And I think the one that stuck with 170 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: me was when I was a manager at Low's and 171 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: the CEO at the time, a great guy named Bob Tillman, said, 172 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: if you're taking care of your people, You're taking care 173 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: of the business, and that just resonated with me the 174 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: rest of my life. 175 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: It's a very Russell and Borrow thing to say. Were 176 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: you did? You say you were at garden Ridge Pottery? 177 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: Where did you work? I'm sorry, I. 178 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: Actually lived in West Texas. I was in Midland, Texas 179 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: at the time at a little place called the Casaverdi 180 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 3: Garden Center. 181 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: That would be my wife's dream job. 182 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: Oh it was a blast, I mean, and I turned 183 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: it into being a Texas Certified nursery professional. And even 184 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 3: now I'm in retail as a second job, just because 185 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: I enjoy it so much, interacting with the people and 186 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 3: the public. 187 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: And where are. 188 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: You come back to help a project at home? I 189 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: am an assistant store manager for Ace hard I took. 190 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 7: It home. 191 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: To try to intimidate me. We were just talking about 192 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: a second job. 193 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: No, I took you. 194 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: It's a hardware which one. 195 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 3: Now Ace Hardware. It's in Lobby Texas love them eighty 196 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: second and slide. It's actually yep. It's a grocery store 197 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: on one side and it transitions into an Ace Hardware 198 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: on the other side, so you can go in and 199 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: get your nuts bolts, drills, paint, what not, and then 200 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: go get your steaks for dinner later on. 201 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I love that, you know. I love the Ace Hardware model. 202 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Over the years I've had Ace Hardware, uh you know 203 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: they they're each individually owned. I've had different folks want 204 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: to be show sponsored, and I'm told them, absolutely, I 205 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: love the Ace Hardware model. 206 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: The vice president in the history of our. 207 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: Christ the Michael Berry, we can't afford four more years 208 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 5: of this. 209 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: The former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, a youth clothing retailer, 210 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: has been arrested in Florida today from a New York 211 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: investigation into child sex trafficking. There is a deviance of 212 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: sex with children that seems to go hand in hand 213 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: with many, not all, but with many celebrities and powerful 214 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: people in this country. I've given a lot of thought 215 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: to this. I've had a lot of conversations with law 216 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: enforcement who've investigated these things, and with mental health professionals 217 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: who studied them, and I've come to my own conclusion, 218 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: and that is that sex with children, for rich, powerful 219 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: people is the final frontier. It is for them, the 220 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: most debauched thing you can do. Over the years, studying 221 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: people I have found that many rock stars will develop 222 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: extreme perversions because they start with the I want to 223 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: be in a band to get chicks. And whether they 224 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: admit it or not, that's why everybody's in a band. 225 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: A lot of them admit it. That's why there wasn't 226 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: anything more to it than that they wanted chicks. They 227 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: knew chicks loved rock stars, and so then they started 228 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: getting chicks, and then they got married, and so then 229 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: there was the additional chicks to the marriage. That's a thrill. 230 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: And then there were multiple chicks, and then there were 231 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: random chicks, and then there was dehumanizing chicks, and maybe 232 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: then it turned. It turned to dudes and different things 233 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,479 Speaker 1: that were illegal or weird or perverse or all of 234 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: that was like the heroine addict chasing the high chasing, 235 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 1: the naughty, chasing the new. The most repugnant thing you 236 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: can do is have sex with a child, an innocent child. 237 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: It is the most repugnant, and I think that is 238 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the thrill. The thrill for these people is that it 239 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: is crossing the final frontier, the final boundary, doing that 240 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: which cannot be done, should not be done, will not 241 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: be done, and yet they can do it. That is 242 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: the feeling of being a god, and I believe that's 243 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: why they do it. You look at the names who've 244 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: been associated with these things today, it's the former CEO 245 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: of Abercrombie and Fitch. The entirety of Jeffrey Epstein was 246 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: not sex. Everybody on those planes could get all the 247 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: sex they wanted. They could get it free or they 248 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: could pay for it. It really didn't matter. And they 249 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: had is sex with children. That's what they want. That's 250 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: their elixir, that's their drug, that's the power, that is 251 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: the god complex. Well, there are powerful and devious people 252 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: who know that, so they create a very elaborate structure 253 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: whereby people who you are going to want to control 254 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: because they are very powerful, can be compromised if you 255 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: create an elaborate structure to allow them to indulge in 256 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: their worst fantasy. And that's what the Epstein story was about. 257 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: People think the Epstein story is a sex story. 258 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: It's not. 259 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of debauchery. There's sick and disgusting things 260 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: going on, even to children across the country. That's happening 261 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: in Sioux City, Iowa, or Kirbyville, Texas. The story there 262 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: is far more than the child's sex angle. That was 263 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: the hook to sell a nation down the river. That 264 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: was how Epstein's handlers, who I believe in the Chinese. 265 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: That's how you get control. And Epstein was very, very 266 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: useful to do that. Epstein never made money, never made money. 267 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: He didn't have the wealth. Do you understand the logistics 268 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: of moving this many people like this to a private island, 269 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: moving this many children there, hiding this, recording it so 270 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: that he could be used later. Kevin Lily is the 271 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: chairman of the Texas Alcohol Beverage Commission, and he and 272 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: I had coffee a couple of years ago, probably five 273 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: years ago, and he said, we're going after sex traffickers Michael, 274 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: and this is big. And he was so gung ho. 275 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: This is big. This sex trafficking is bigger than you 276 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: can imagine. We're going after him. And I thought, what 277 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: a weird well yess I have to do with TBC? Well, 278 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: big announcement today, nine we'll not today this week, nine shops, 279 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: nine bars closed. They were sex trafficking children. Kevin Lily 280 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: was at five of the nine bus He's gonna come 281 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: on show in a few days and talk about it. 282 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: It turns out a lot of these bars or fronts 283 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: for child's sex traffic. This is so much bigger than 284 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: people would ever believe. 285 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 7: They have pledged to carry out the largest deportation, a 286 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 7: mass deportation with imagine what that would look like us fry. 287 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: Subcurity. 288 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 4: Big. 289 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: That's a final line, as country music haspat there. It 290 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: really is so much deeper than you'd think. Dean Holloway 291 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: was Merl Hager's dear friend and bus driver. Story goes, 292 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: Dean was at the back of the bus and we'll 293 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: turn it back up. 294 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: Been working every day since I was twenty. I haven't 295 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: got a thing in the show for anything I've There's 296 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 2: folks who never were and they got Dave God let 297 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: Y think it's time you guys like the Hads some fun. 298 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: So the story goes they were at the recording studio 299 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: and Merle went out to the bus to check on 300 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: his buddy Dean. It was laid out on one of 301 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: the beds. Give me is your eyes. Yeah, that's tire 302 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: of this dirty old city. And Merl said, let's turned up. 303 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 2: And you're so calm, social secured. 304 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: There's so called social fix it turn news and sat 305 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and sorry. He started talking about it not like me 306 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: being in the big city. And Merle famously to hear 307 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: Merle tell the story, say well, where would. 308 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: You like to be? 309 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: And he said, somewhere in the middle of damn Montana, 310 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: really just as far away from the big city as 311 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: he could get. And he dropped the damn But that's 312 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: where the somewhere in the middle of Montana goes. So 313 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Merle Haggard tells the story that he knew he had 314 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: some so he rushed back in the studio the band 315 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: was packing up. He doesn't have to pack up. He's 316 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: Merl Haggard coming out to the bust, tell Dean to 317 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: turn it on, get the air conditioning run, and get 318 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: this thing comfortable. He ran back in, he said, guys, 319 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: put your gear back down. We got to do one 320 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: more song. Ah, because doing one song is not three minutes. 321 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: It's going to require rehearsals, and all this with no rehearsal. 322 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: This is Merle Haggard's story, not mind no rehearsal. In 323 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: one take they did that song and that's what you 324 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: heard right there. They recorded it. Merle Haggard being Merle Haggard. Now, 325 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: Willie wouldn't have done this and George Straight wouldn't have 326 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: done this, But Merle Haggard, did you fill out the 327 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: little form in a little form for writer. It was 328 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: Merle Haggard who had written it, and it was a 329 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: co writer, Dean Holloway. He gave Dean Holloway credit for 330 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: that that would end up in the course of Dean 331 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Holloway's life to net him five hundred thousand dollars. It's 332 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: a pretty gracious act of Merle Haggard's part. We've been 333 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: going back and forth to Austin to see t Bone 334 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: and on the way stopping in the Greater Brnome area, 335 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: and unfortunately Houston is moving to Washington County. Houston is 336 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: moving lock Stock and Borough to all the way out 337 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: to Anderson, but all the way out to Hunt. But 338 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: in big numbers, Houston is moving to Waller County, Washington County, 339 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: all the way out to Lee County, Fayette County. It's incredible. 340 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it because I'm going to be 341 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: one of them, so I you know, that's my lot 342 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: in life. I can't really complain about them and then 343 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: be one. But I think there's several factors that play here, 344 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: and one of them is. People have had it with 345 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: the cultural rot in the city of Houston. They've had 346 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: it with the cultural rot, the trash cultures, the guns, 347 00:25:55,520 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the gunfire, the random violence. People have had it. 348 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: They could tolerate the traffic, the noise and the congestion 349 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: and all that, but it's the randomness and the senselessness 350 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: of it. Your gutter hood rat thug will kill somebody 351 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: for no good reason, not even take their wallet, and 352 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: there's just something about that that it violates your sense 353 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: of order and decency. We only get one life. So 354 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: we were looking at a house out there who's on 355 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: a road called Dixie Road, and it's just off that 356 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: jug handle turn if you know where two ninety turns 357 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: and goes up, and then you can go up thirty 358 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: six from there and you turn right and go into Brenham. 359 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: And there was this little cabin. It was a perfect 360 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: little cabin and it was only five acres. My wife 361 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 1: likes acreage. She wants to have horses and cattle and 362 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: wear her boots out and go far stuff again. And 363 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: she misses those days because we had a place out 364 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: in the country for years and she wants that back. 365 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: When Crockett graduates, which is not too long. And we're 366 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: driving up on this place and we go around the 367 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: back to get there and we pull up on it 368 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: and as we're pulling up, she said, Oh my god, 369 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: this looks like Katie or sugar Land or pear Land. 370 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: This is a full blown master plan development. And it's 371 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: the first one I've seen like that out there. It's uh, 372 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: if you know where Dixie Road is, you enter it. 373 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I think off Dixie Road. It's called uh, maybe Vintage. 374 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: They all have the same name, Vintage Legs or something, 375 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: but it's right off of kind of two ninety and 376 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: thirty six. But it was hundreds of homes and it 377 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: was just never thought I'd see that we had a 378 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: place out in car I mean twenty three years ago, 379 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: and it was every house out there had been out 380 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: there for a long time, nothing new. You didn't build 381 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: new development. And now it's coming and the locals hate it, 382 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: and it's understandable. Look, you don't get to stop people 383 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: from coming because your people came, and when your people came, 384 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: the people there before you didn't like it, but it does. 385 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, there's good and bad. It's a cultural change. 386 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: You're not going to stop it, But I think you're 387 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: going to see a mat this. Look, this is why 388 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: Republic Grand Ranch is the fastest growing acreage community in 389 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: the country, I mean in the state. It's because people 390 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: want out of Harris County. They want out of and 391 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: the problem is, as more people move out, you lose 392 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: the people who vote against the corruption. So you're going 393 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: to be left with a bunch of self dealing, corruptocrats 394 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: and nobody there to stop it because who wants to 395 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: Who wants to fight that bad And you got people 396 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: retiring now, and you've got more people who can work 397 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: from home. It's interesting