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Speaker 1: plays in critical moments, but they didn't give him any

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Speaker 1: room to breathe last Thursday night. Well, the pass rush

425
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Speaker 1: was so much better in this game than it has

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Speaker 1: been in past games against the Titans, partially because I

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Speaker 1: believe that was the first time that Jaguars have had

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Speaker 1: a seven point lead against the Titans since they blew

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Speaker 1: them out here in Dougs first game. They had a

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Speaker 1: three point lead in the first game in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seventeen. They have not had a chance to rush

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Speaker 1: the past or get them into passing situations. The way

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Speaker 1: they made the Titans play is the way that the

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Speaker 1: Titans don't like to play, and it's a There's probably

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Speaker 1: three more guys involved in this pass rush now then

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Speaker 1: were involved in the past rush In the past, when

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Speaker 1: you throw Tavan smooth Alan, all of a sudden, they

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Speaker 1: came in waves in two thousand seventeen. It looks like

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Speaker 1: they're able to do that now. Darius was a factor

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Speaker 1: in the pass ruship. I know we got a sack,

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Speaker 1: but more than that, he was pushing the pocket from

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Speaker 1: the middle, and you Mariota loves to get out and

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Speaker 1: make things happen. Well, Calais Campbell was eating both tackles alive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're playing Dennis Kelly instead of Taylor Lawan,

445
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Speaker 1: who we know is one of the better tackles in football.

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Speaker 1: And Jack Conston was all pros a rookie, but his

447
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Speaker 1: battle knee injury. Since if you have the pressure up

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Speaker 1: the middle from Darius and from Tavan and from Abrey Jones,

449
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Speaker 1: those guys on the outside are gonna eat and they

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Speaker 1: did and talk about You can't say enough good things

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Speaker 1: about Claius, but he was hurting during the game, especially

452
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Speaker 1: after halftime. Every single drive was just an effort for him.

453
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: He needed ten days. Watch it didn't slow him down.

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Speaker 1: Watch this one. Now he's going home to play in

455
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Speaker 1: his hometown of Denver against Garrett Bowles, the young tackle

456
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Speaker 1: from Utah who's I think was the first round pick

457
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Speaker 1: last year. Two years ago. He wasn't first, he was. Yeah,

458
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Speaker 1: he leaves the league in holding penalties. I mean that

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Speaker 1: the guy has become a he's hanging on for dear life.

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Speaker 1: John always said this has got to stop. Um, it's

461
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Speaker 1: probably not gonna stop this week because Plais Campbell is

462
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Speaker 1: going to be lined up over him. Tough matchups, say

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Speaker 1: the least. Yeah, well tough for him. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: Garrow was hotter after Owennie grill light grill done. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think after watching the defense the last two weeks

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Speaker 1: and Gardner Minshew obviously completing seventy three passes, Um, I

495
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Speaker 1: think Jackmons have a winning record at the boy. I

496
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Speaker 1: think you look at what how it sets up here

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. Um. I watched him yesterday. Their defense doesn't

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Speaker 1: look anything like the defense that we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 1: Their offense looks slow. Um. I'm not saying that was

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Speaker 1: you know, mark that down as a win, but that's

501
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Speaker 1: a winnable game. Same thing in Carolina. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: that that was a game that you know, this team

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Speaker 1: would go play well, well, you know, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: get the back of a quarterback, although he did play well.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, same thing Breeze is not playing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, probably you'll just be getting back into the lineup.

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Speaker 1: You get the Texans in in uh London. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to suggest the Jaguars, with the

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Speaker 1: defense playing well, if the quarterback can keep it up,

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Speaker 1: could have a winning record when they get to their body.

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Speaker 1: So I'll go with it. I agree. We all said

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Speaker 1: four and four would be difficult to attain what they

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Speaker 1: had to do, and they you know, four and for

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Speaker 1: whatever it is that Folds four and five. When Folds

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Speaker 1: came back, that was the narrative. I think that's very doable.

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Speaker 1: And uh, four and four or five and four is

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Speaker 1: very doable. And I'll see what happens when he comes back. Yeah,

518
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Speaker 1: he talks about it last week games. You thought you

519
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: at least had a chance we were if he about Carolina.

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Speaker 1: That's before we knew anything about what Cam New was going. No,

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Speaker 1: and and and this this Alan kid has a little

522
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Speaker 1: Minshew thing of his own going there four touchdowns in

523
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Speaker 1: his hometown yesterday against the Cardinals. So you know, and

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Speaker 1: Matt McCaffrey. Kid is a hell of a player. I

525
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Speaker 1: mean that you see him pull away on that touchdown.

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Speaker 1: There's I'm not suggesting in any mean that the jag

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Speaker 1: Wons be favored in any of these games. But with

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Speaker 1: the defense playing as well as it is, and it

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Speaker 1: remains to be seen they can play that well without

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey in the lineup, I think that's a big

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Speaker 1: question mark. I think they'll be five and four. I

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Speaker 1: just I see them going four and too over the

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Speaker 1: next six and it's a big Look, it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: You're not getting Drew Brees right, Uh, You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: see a healthy Sam darn Remember, because and we've had

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Speaker 1: players around here who have had mono they worried. Remember

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Brandon Linder had mono and

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Speaker 1: didn't play for four or five weeks because they worried

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Speaker 1: about the spleen. Well, Adam Gay said over the weekend, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're worried about the spleen, you know, two weeks. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of reason to think that there are

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Speaker 1: games on the schedule that are falling favorably to them.

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Speaker 1: It could change the jagg wars could have injuries, but

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Speaker 1: presently sitting here right now, hot take bide and four.

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Speaker 1: All right, my heart take is the squeaky wheels us

546
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Speaker 1: need to be quiet. And by squeaky wheels I mean

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Speaker 1: Unique and Jalen. And this is almost not fair to

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Speaker 1: say to Unique because once he has been back professional

549
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: no doubt. So uh, this is not saying that he

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Speaker 1: is doing anything wrong with his behavior as approach right now.

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Speaker 1: But he was obviously a story in terms of contract

552
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Speaker 1: in the off season and now Jaalen is. But the

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Speaker 1: bottom line is, you know, Josh Allen and Clais Campbell,

554
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Speaker 1: that those two pass rushers are as important, if not

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Speaker 1: more important than the two guys who have made the

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Speaker 1: most noise. And Clais Campbell when he's right, when he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: he is still the best player on this defense in

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Speaker 1: terms of the disruption that they need, in terms of

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Speaker 1: what makes this defense go again. I love jay On Ramsey,

560
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Speaker 1: but had gave up a huge play the other night

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Speaker 1: and gave up a huge play on third down. Gave

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Speaker 1: up two of the bigger plays that they had against

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Speaker 1: them on defense, one a third down when the game

564
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Speaker 1: was still in intact. Great player, but the pass rush.

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Speaker 1: The main point of this is at the pass rush

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Speaker 1: up front. Josh Allen, Clay As Campbell, those two guys

567
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Speaker 1: seem to be what's making it go. I think I

568
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Speaker 1: thinking got Way will be a big part of that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that he is quite as important

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Speaker 1: as Clay as Gamble. I was really impressed with how

571
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Speaker 1: he spent time with you in the locker room Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was a total pro. Uh and and

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Speaker 1: that's not a surprise. I think we all knew that

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Speaker 1: he could be and probably would be. I'm let me

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Speaker 1: play off of your hot take. I think that Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and Unique and Gockway, who's still looking for his

577
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Speaker 1: first act. He's only played in two of the three games,

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Speaker 1: we'll have a big performance. And he had run the

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Speaker 1: other night. Yeah got one, Okay, all right, then I

580
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: got one. Yeah. I think that those two guys Alan

581
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: and in Goquay will both have big performances. They may

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Speaker 1: not have seven sacks between them, but if you saw

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Speaker 1: Dante Fowler last night for the Rams, you saw he

584
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Speaker 1: was in the quarterbacks face a lot. I think that

585
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: they will because there's going to be so much focus

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Speaker 1: on stopping Calias Campbell that those two guys schematically, I

587
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: think they'll be putting interesting positions, but I think that

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Speaker 1: those two guys will create havoc in Denver on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The gist of this take is when this defense is

590
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Speaker 1: right as much as they need Jalen and and Jalen

591
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: is really good, it rises and falls on on what

592
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: the what the rotation, what the waves up front are doing,

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Speaker 1: and when it plays like it did the other night,

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Speaker 1: when it gets that kind of pressure, what's going on

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Speaker 1: the back end. By the way, I think another thing

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Speaker 1: that bears pointing out with Jalen is yes, I think

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Speaker 1: he's the best corner in football and one of the

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Speaker 1: best five defensive players in football. However, if you watch

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Speaker 1: the Packers at yesterday, they have Jayer Alexander, who was

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Speaker 1: the fourteenth pick in the draft and nobody ever said

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Speaker 1: this is one of the best corners in the game,

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Speaker 1: although they said he was a very promising young guy,

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Speaker 1: and Kenny King, who they took at the end of

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Speaker 1: the first round the year before. Um, that's a hell

605
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: of a combination. They're playing really well. So if the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars were to move on from Jalen, they could replace

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Speaker 1: him they wouldn't replace him with another Jalen, but with

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Speaker 1: the pass rush up front, they could find good players

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Speaker 1: that could come in and play at a high level.

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Speaker 1: You could replace him something to watch and all this

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: boy had his best games since two thousands seventeen the

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00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: other night that uh, that's gonna be a storyline to follow.

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00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Are all right? My Bernie would foul grill hot take

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00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: is DJ Chark will be a one by two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty. He didn't develop as much as he would

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Speaker 1: have liked him last year. But after hearing this in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, I thought, I gotta make this guy

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Speaker 1: in my hot take on Monday. Well, let me go back.

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Speaker 1: Even through struggles, you know, they never got down on

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Speaker 1: me at all. Uh. You know, you had a lot

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Speaker 1: of noise from the outside, but the guy in his

622
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: locker room always, you know, motivated me. So I felt

623
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Speaker 1: like it was my duty to go put in the work.

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Speaker 1: And this also even put in a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: So we know he didn't play as well as he

626
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: wanted to last year, but he was talking about you know,

627
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Speaker 1: these guys never lost sighting, especially Keena McCardell, d D Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: all those guys knew I had dim me and we're

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Speaker 1: seeing that this year for sure. Well, he didn't play

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Speaker 1: as well as he wanted to that and that's valid. Um,

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00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: he didn't play as well as some people thought he should.

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Speaker 1: That's invalid. I mean you're always the first one to

633
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: say rookie receivers take time to develop. But again, he's

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Speaker 1: one of these guys that we add to that list

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Speaker 1: with with Tavin Bryan and Leon Jacobs. Um he uh

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00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: d wants mood. I mean, these guys are coming on

637
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: now in their second season, which is when you hope

638
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: that they are. Yeah, he looks like a one and

639
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: uh something Jeff Logerman said multiple times last year. They

640
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: always kind of stuck in the back of my mind.

641
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: He was playing exceptionally well on special teams the whole year,

642
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: and it cared about it. Worked at it, worked it

643
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: better at it. It was really good at it. For

644
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: a a young wide receiver who plays a prima donna

645
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: position to come into the league, be willing to do that,

646
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: be willing to excel, had the tools to do it.

647
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: Jeff thought that voted very well for his future at receiver,

648
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: and turns out he's right. And as we all know,

649
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: he's a great kid, a great young man. Will stand

650
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: there when it's good, We'll stand there when it's not good.

651
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: A good head on the shoulders for sure. All right,

652
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: let's visit the oz on mail back the let's stay

653
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: right here in Jacksonville. Talked to Ed. What do you

654
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: think our QB situation will be after the season? If

655
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Folds the starter, do we trade Minshew? If Minshew is

656
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: the starter, what do we do with fols Well? I

657
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: get that people want to dive into this and and

658
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be a fascinating topic. If Minshew continues

659
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: to play as well. I guess the problem I have

660
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: answering it is there are so many ifs. If Folds

661
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: is good and I Mensho's night, if Minshi's night, if

662
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: they're both good, if they both so, I think the

663
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: bottom line is it looks for the first time in

664
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a long time that they're going to have to legitimate

665
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: sources of equity good players at that position. Uh. I

666
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: don't think under any circumstances, though you if Minshew plays well,

667
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason to part ways with him,

668
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: because Folds is really on a two year deal. You

669
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: keep Gardner if you think he's good bare minimum. You

670
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: hold on to that because he's a young quarterback in

671
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: this league. So I think it's gonna be interesting. Uh.

672
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: As I wrote in the other one this morning, this

673
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: whole thing does have potential to be a little bit

674
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: of a mess, but it's a wonderful mess. Well, so

675
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: he give me the problem because the last time the

676
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars had any quarterback depth whatsoever like this, when they

677
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: had Steve Burline, who would go on to leave the

678
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers the next year to the NFC Championship game,

679
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: they had a young Mark Rounell who they knew was

680
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: going to be their long term starter, and a young

681
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: Rob Johnson who became Fred Taylor when they traded him

682
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: to Buffalo for those picks. So, yeah, give me that problem.

683
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with um Nick Foles, and I haven't

684
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: read the ozone, so I'm not sure what you said.

685
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: It's million dollars in dead money sitting on your cap.

686
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: You made a calculated decision and a huge financial commitment

687
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: to Nick Foles, and you're not just going to abandon

688
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: that based on twelve snaps. You can't so hold your

689
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: horses there. There's no trade value for Nick Foles because

690
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: you can't afford to eat that. If sixteen million on

691
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: this cap for Blake Portals is constricting this year and

692
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: it is, people said to me, why did they just

693
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: trade for Josh Dobbs. It's all they could afford, right,

694
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: So if sixteen is constricting would be crushing. You can't

695
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: do it. Foles will be here min shoes under contract.

696
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Why do anything? Just figure out what's the best way

697
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: to deploy them and keep them both had a bad Yeah,

698
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't see why they wouldn't, and then you deal

699
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: with it as a move forward. All right, let's go

700
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: to Nicholas. As frustrating as this season may have been

701
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: at the start, fans should realize that this team is

702
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: only inches away from being two and one and the

703
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: a f C South leaders. Yeah, nothing's happened yet that

704
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: takes you remotely out of anything, though they've They outplayed

705
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: the Texans last week in the last three quarters and

706
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: happened to lose, But they outplayed the team that I

707
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: think is now the division favorite on the road. Uh,

708
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: they're right in it and everything's in front of them,

709
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: and and the way they have played the last two weeks,

710
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: I think with or without Jaalen in the next few weeks.

711
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: They have a chance to remain in this thing because

712
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: the defensive line is playing so well. You're just a

713
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: game back with thirteen to play, you know. From over All, right,

714
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: let's go to Toronto. I am down with mention media

715
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: and happy he's doing well. But I still have to

716
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: wonder how much better this offense would be if Folds

717
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: doesn't get injured. I have to think that Houston game

718
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: would be a w and the Titans game a bit

719
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: more of a blowout, don't you think, Mr? Oh, yes,

720
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's fair to Mensh. You you know,

721
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I uh, I think they're pretty similar in the way

722
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: that they want to play. I don't think. I don't

723
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: think John D. Felippo would be calling games that different

724
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: if it was Foalds compared to Menshi, particularly either the

725
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: night he let Minshew play in situations and I dictate

726
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: the game with his arm uh. I don't know that

727
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: they'd be any better or worse with Foalds Right now,

728
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything from Minshew to make me think, wow,

729
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: if Fowls had been there on this play, it might

730
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: have been different. Maybe in the first game, you know,

731
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: because it was. But even then he played okay, he

732
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: played fine afterwards. I don't think anything about the record,

733
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: about the circumstance would be better with Folds. The only

734
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: thing I think you might have had was fools get

735
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: rid of the ball or not fumble the ball when

736
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: he got nailed from But he got nailed from behind

737
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: by Whitney merciless, you know, I mean, I just yeah

738
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: the ball security in Texas and make an argument that

739
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: may be the only thing. Um. And you know if

740
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: if you don't have that, you might have won the game, obviously,

741
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: because that was the only touchdown that they scored. I

742
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: go back, Um, but I'm not sure that Foals necessarily

743
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: those last two d minchet. I'm not saying Foals couldn't

744
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: have done it, but I don't know that he would

745
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: have done it better. You're reading too much into it

746
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: too early, You just are I mean, let the whole

747
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: thing play out. I go back, just on the heels

748
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: of that, and say again, looking at the Texans offense

749
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: on the road against Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa, Uh,

750
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: they were explosive yesterday and they were not week before.

751
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: So I think that is a good reference point for

752
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: us with this Jaguars defense. Yeah, it looks like two

753
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: different teams basically. All right, when we come back, we'll

754
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Speaker 1: wrap up the show with some NFL headlines right here

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Speaker 1: show with some NFL headlines over the weekend. Let's go

781
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: back to Thursday Night. Tom Brady reacting to Thursday Night

782
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Football of all people saying I'm turning this game off.

783
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: There's too many penalties when an actuality, at least for

784
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: offensive holding, there were less penalties. So there was a

785
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: conference call Saturday night with l River on who is

786
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: the gentleman who controls and controls but manages the officiating

787
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL and if you were called back in

788
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: the off season, there was a point of emphasis on

789
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: offensive holding, primarily on the back side. They called it

790
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: lobster blocking. Guys got their hands out side. So in

791
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of the season those calls. Holding

792
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: calls were up sixty six percent. There were five point

793
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: seven per game. After the phone call the other night

794
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: where they sort of the emphasized it a little bit,

795
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: talked about where to call it where not, it was

796
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: down to just two point nine. That's about well. So

797
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that it was up sixty

798
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: over the year before. It's just two point nine you

799
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: could hand holding per game. Yeah, we asked some of

800
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room, was a big deal

801
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady was tweeting about Thursay night football prime time,

802
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: And they're like, he's just sit at home, he's hanging anyway.

803
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Players don't aren't as thrilled by a sort of things. Fans.

804
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: By the way, how about Tom Brady yesterday going to

805
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and saying, throw the flag, throw the flag,

806
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: throw the flag. He got his way and it wasn't overturned. Yeah,

807
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I thought that was a bit too all right. NFL

808
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: headline number two Peyton wins one. He has coached the

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: Saints for fourteen years. Yesterday was his first time beating

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in Seattle. In his career, mind you, that's

811
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Speaker 1: what Teddy Bridgewall there, Well, it wasn't the first time

812
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: that he beat um the Seahawks in Seattle and his

813
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: crewer was the first time he won a game as

814
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Saints without Drew Brees in

815
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: the starting lineup, right. What what was unusual about that game,

816
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: also from the Seahawks standpoint, is is that Pete Carroll

817
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: was fifteen and o at at home in September. Never

818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: lost a home game in September until yesterday. They scored

819
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: on defense, they scored on special teams. Teddy Bridgewater wasn't spectacular,

820
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: but he didn't have to be. He through two touchdowns.

821
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: What I thought was interesting is is that all the

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00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: time that Peyton's been there, it's the first time he's

823
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: won a game without and it was It was a

824
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: huge that was surprised everybody because everybody thought that team

825
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: was built around Breeze and only Breeze. And then I

826
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: only beat Sattle, they beat him handily. So uh, that

827
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: shows you that that team A is gonna be dangerous

828
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: from the Jaguars play him here and B has a

829
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: good chance to be around when Breeze gets back which

830
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: means they're still in it. When you score on defense,

831
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: you win a significant point at the time when you

832
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: score on defense, and you score on special teams and

833
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: most of the time, right And I remember when we

834
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: found out that Drew Brees would be out for the

835
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Jaguars team, Everyone's like, ah, that's a win. Then not

836
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: so fast, Yeah, this team is not good to say

837
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: that anybody get your point, and well it may all right. Finally,

838
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: oh two eighteen Offensive Rookie of the Year se Kwon

839
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 1: Barkley severed a high ankle spring yesterday was seen leaving

840
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the game with crutches. They have the Redskins next week.

841
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones played well, but you can't really figure out

842
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: that Giant's team right now. Well, for Daniel Jones, it's

843
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: obviously an easier task to play anybody with that guy

844
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: in the backfield. Without it, it means he's got to

845
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: use his arm, and he used his leg yesterday too.

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Speaker 1: If your dad, geentleman, aren't you sitting in the press

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Speaker 1: box before s Kwon gets hurt saying maybe I'm not

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Speaker 1: so stupid after all? Right, he knew what he wanted

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Speaker 1: in Jones. Big strong kids, strong arm looks comfortable and

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Speaker 1: confident in the pocket. Um, you know, looks like a younger,

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Speaker 1: maybe bigger, stronger Eli Manning. And uh, it's too bad

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Speaker 1: for sake, Kwan because that high ankle for running back

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Speaker 1: probably will be a month before he gets back minimum

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Speaker 1: and then you've got to sort of work your way

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Speaker 1: back off of that. So that will certainly hurt his

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Speaker 1: overall production. Yeah, I mean and dramatically reduced. And you

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Speaker 1: talk about prose prose. I was watching that game and

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Speaker 1: you had Eli Manning on the bench with Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: behind him with him the entire game easily could be

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Speaker 1: a jerk about that, and he wasn't. It's a kind

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Speaker 1: of guy. It's his way he was raised. Alright, Stay

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Speaker 1: have dug her own live at ten twenty this morning,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be back Wednesday morning right here on Jacks

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Speaker 1: Drive time. Ye