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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thursday edition of The Clay Travis En buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Play on vacation this week, so it is the Buckster

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Speaker 2: solo until Monday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out with me. We have a Kamala

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Speaker 1: rolling out a policy.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, oh, she wants to be president and now

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Speaker 2: she has a policy to discuss. We shall talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Her first policy is communism. Give you the upfront there.

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Speaker 2: First policy is communism basically, but we'll discuss more of

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Speaker 2: that in just a moment. Also, we have a JD

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Speaker 2: Vance agreeing to two debates with vice presidential nominee Walls

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Speaker 2: for the Democrats September eighteenth on CNN and October first

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Speaker 2: on CBS. That's right, so we have that. We've also

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Speaker 2: got Trump out there on the stump. We'll discuss the

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Speaker 2: latest with what he is saying and seeing out across

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Speaker 2: the country. Will Trump be sentenced to prison in September?

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Speaker 2: Andy McCarthy will be with us bottom of this hour.

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Speaker 2: He's going to make his case. I think he has

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Speaker 2: a surprising prediction.

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Speaker 1: On this for all of you.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk to Andy about that and

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Speaker 2: if you think the law there campaign is over, I

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Speaker 2: gotta say, think again, they're not. They're not done with

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Speaker 2: it yet. There's much more still to come, or at

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Speaker 2: least something still to come with the effort to possibly

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Speaker 2: lock up or at least you know, there's sentencing and

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Speaker 2: then there's actually being put in the cell. We'll get

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Speaker 2: into these distinctions in just a little bit here at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour. But I did want to

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Speaker 2: start with Kamala has a policy.

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Speaker 1: Now, Oh my gosh, look at that. An economic policy,

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Speaker 1: no less. Now.

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Speaker 2: I am hopeful that this policy will be one that

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Speaker 2: she doesn't change next week, depending on what the polls

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Speaker 2: look like.

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Speaker 1: I'm also hopeful that.

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Speaker 2: The media will not shout at everybody who criticizes this

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Speaker 2: policy saying it's not her policy until they can first

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Speaker 2: check and see what the polls are and then eventually admit, yeah, actually,

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Speaker 2: this is what she says she wants to do. Trump

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Speaker 2: was in Asheville, North Carolina. You know I've got I've

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Speaker 2: got funny, funny Ashville's story.

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Speaker 1: Some of you already know.

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Speaker 2: It's when I was I was actually thinking about proposing

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Speaker 2: to carry in Asheville. I was visiting her family there,

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Speaker 2: for Fourth of July week and a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: and I had the ring in my bag, and I

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Speaker 2: just decided, you know, we met in New York. We

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Speaker 2: I courted her in New York, so we got we

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Speaker 2: got engaged in New York City. So I held off.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime in Asheville, I noticed it's like

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Speaker 2: a communist enclave.

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Speaker 1: It's like a commune.

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Speaker 2: In downtown Ashville, it was beautiful countryside and then you

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Speaker 2: get into the actual city and there's like all these

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Speaker 2: filthy hippies running around, and there's a crime problem, and

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Speaker 2: it's it's nuts. And I just noticed that there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of masks being worn. And this was in

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Speaker 2: the summer, and it was indoors, and it was the

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Speaker 2: summer of what wasn't now twenty twenty two. I guess anyway,

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Speaker 2: Trump is in Asheville. He's speaking to everybody. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I made it. I tweeted about it, and it went

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Speaker 2: when viral. I didn't even say anything mean or anything.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, the Nashville or Asheville,

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Speaker 2: not Nashville, the Asheville papers were writing about it, or

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Speaker 1: It's crazy It's crazy. Ah, you know, I was just

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Speaker 1: there on vacation. I feel like Eddie Murphy and Beverly

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Speaker 2: I'm on vacation, like I'm not trying to kick the

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Speaker 2: hornets nest of all these insane Marxist but apparently I did.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: Trump was there and he's speaking about Kamala's policy and

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Speaker 2: this is cut one.

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Speaker 1: This is what he had to say about it.

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris won't end the economic crisis. She will only

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Speaker 4: make it worse. And why hasn't she done it? She

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Speaker 4: talks about it. She's doing a plan. You know, she's

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Speaker 4: going to announce it this week. Maybe she's waiting for

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Speaker 4: me to announce it so she can copy it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a point, right, She did just

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Speaker 2: be announced. The Kamala Harris economic policy is going to

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Speaker 2: be announced on Friday, they are telling us. And it

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Speaker 2: has to do with bringing down prices. And she's going

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Speaker 2: to be in North Carolina Friday. Okay, so she's going

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Speaker 2: to lower the cost of specifically food. Is is getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of attention, but healthcare, housing, food. And if

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Speaker 2: you're wondering, how is the genius economist or business person

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Speaker 2: or what what experience does she have in business or

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Speaker 1: Has she ever had a free market based job?

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Speaker 2: Hmm, well, I'll have to dive into my two Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris biographies and make sure that I am right when I.

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Speaker 1: Say no, not really. She has worked for the state

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Speaker 1: her entire life. But what is her plan?

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Speaker 2: Price controls, my friends, price controls. That's what they are

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Speaker 2: hoping to roll out. And this is actually perfect for

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Speaker 2: the Harris campaign in a sense me explained first off,

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Speaker 2: as I've been saying, they know that they've got a

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Speaker 2: problem with white working class voters. Trump's gonna win them,

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Speaker 2: question of whether he wins them by enough to win

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Speaker 2: the whole election.

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Speaker 1: And these are people for.

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Speaker 2: Whom a you know, tripling or quadrupling of the milk

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Speaker 2: feed themselves in their family.

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Speaker 1: They noticed that.

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Speaker 2: And you can do all the messaging you want as

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Speaker 2: a Democrat about how like, oh, inflation, Remember Biden was

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Speaker 2: saying inflation was under control and had been tamed, and

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Speaker 2: inflation was being such a good little inflation and no

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Speaker 2: big deal. A couple of months ago, right, Biden was

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Speaker 2: what to do about inflation and that he had won,

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Speaker 2: he had won the battle against inflation. Now Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: her campaign has to do with taming the inflation that

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Speaker 2: we had been told that Biden had already tamed, and

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Speaker 2: and business person Joe Biden. So I like to tell

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Speaker 2: people the only jobs Biden has ever created are for

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Speaker 2: corrupt family members, often involving oligarchs and foreign adversaries buying influence.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that is it.

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Speaker 2: The Biden Jobs Jobs program is crackhead hunter getting checks

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Speaker 2: from Barisma. That's all Biden knows about creating jobs. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Kamal is coming forward now with price controls. This is

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Speaker 2: perfect because it is a really a summation of the

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Speaker 2: which is, first of all, they're just seeing what they

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Speaker 1: They're making it up as they go along.

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Speaker 2: There's no vision for this campaign, but it's not Biden,

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Speaker 2: so they're all happy about this. In the meantime, it's

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Speaker 2: that is reflected in the polls. Okay, but uh there.

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Speaker 2: This is one of these economic policies. Uh And and

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Speaker 2: it will make things better from you. And this is

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Speaker 2: the This is another example of the socialist democrat free

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Speaker 2: lunch fallacy. And let me explain in shorthand why this is.

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Speaker 2: It's so appalling that she's doing this right now, that

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Speaker 2: she wants to do this. The the idea that somehow

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Speaker 2: together just when Joe Biden came into office and started

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Speaker 2: spending trillions of dollars completely unnecessarily because he could, because

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Speaker 2: he wanted to wanted to pay off Democrat interests right

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Speaker 2: wanted to spread money around to his constituents somehow. Only

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Speaker 2: then did these you know, milk producers, bacon producers, meat

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Speaker 2: meat processors. Only then did they start deciding, let's just

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Speaker 2: engage in profiteering against our customers. Only then when Biden.

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Speaker 2: That's quite a let's just start with that. Quite a coincidence,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. You can see inflation on a chart. Biden

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Speaker 2: shoots up. Wait, wait, which is what we told them,

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Speaker 2: what happened, which is what conservatives and the right were

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Speaker 2: warning about the whole time.

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Speaker 1: So we nail it, We nail the prediction.

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Speaker 2: They want us to believe it's coincidence, and more than that,

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Speaker 2: Biden and is spending at all. It's the greedy food

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Speaker 2: you know, food companies. It's the people that actually make

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Speaker 2: they want to make this case. It has been very

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Speaker 2: apparent in Venezuela, which was, in not too distant memory

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Speaker 1: But it's it's important, it's very relevant.

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Speaker 2: And they can't even refine the oil that they have

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Speaker 2: running up debts it couldn't pay, so they print money.

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Speaker 2: Guess what they started price controls And you know what,

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Speaker 2: price controls lead to shortages. This is econ one O

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Speaker 2: don't do this. And then with the left always says

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Speaker 2: just to prepare you in case this weekend you're at

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Speaker 5: It's like, but price what about the subsidies for the

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Speaker 5: oil and what about the farmer subsidies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those are political gifts. They actually don't disprove what

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Speaker 2: sides of the aisle are like, yeah, we have a

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Speaker 2: strategic interest in keeping the food supply like a national

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Speaker 2: and not left to market, you know, market disruption or

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Speaker 2: but it still is an intervention in the market. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't prove anything other than you're you're writing

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Speaker 2: checks for something that you want to write checks for

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Speaker 2: and you're taking money from people to do it. So

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Speaker 2: it doesn't disprove the theory. It's just like saying, well,

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Speaker 2: socialism for America would be good.

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Speaker 1: Just look at social.

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Speaker 2: Security and you're like, well, that's not really the same thing,

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Speaker 2: is it. Well, it's sort of like it, but it's not.

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Speaker 2: And they're gonna freak out about this because they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to fight on Harris's behalf on this issue. Price

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Speaker 2: controls create cause shortages, and then the shortages are blamed

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Speaker 2: by the incompetent idiot government in this case Venezuela or

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Speaker 2: perhaps a Kamala Harris administration, and they say it is

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Speaker 2: the greedy capitalists who are doing this to you, which

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Speaker 2: He is a former federal prosecutor of over twenty years

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Speaker 2: at National Review and at Foxnews dot Com. Andy, I

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Speaker 1: You've written a piece.

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Speaker 2: I'll let the punchline go to you on this one, Andy,

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Speaker 2: But first, what's going to happen here?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's an unusual process, Buck, because remember it was

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Speaker 3: in order to continue to prosecute the appeal without them

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Speaker 3: being able to seize his property. So I do think

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Speaker 3: the judging gets better as you go up in the system.

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Speaker 3: And that's important because there are I mean, there's a

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Speaker 3: slew of reverse of the larror in this case. And frankly,

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Speaker 3: if Judge march On wanted to be a real judge,

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Speaker 3: the case should be thrown out. The guilty verdict should

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Speaker 3: be thrown out because the Supreme Court in the immunity

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Speaker 3: case said that when you're dealing with official acts of

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Speaker 3: the president, it's not just that you can't prosecute an

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Speaker 3: official act as if it was a crime in and

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Speaker 3: of itself. With the Court said is you can't even

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Speaker 3: use it as evidence to prove acts or crimes that

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Speaker 3: aren't based on official acts. And here the DA obviously

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Speaker 3: offered a lot of evidence of acts that Trump took

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Speaker 3: as president and while president, they can't say they're not

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Speaker 3: official acts. The DA's office actually put on as witnesses

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Speaker 3: two of Trump's White House staff, and they can't say

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Speaker 3: that that was unimportant testimony because insummation, the prosecutors said

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Speaker 3: it was devastating testimony. So I think just on the

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Speaker 3: basis of that, he should have vacated the guilty verdicts.

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Speaker 3: But you know, he should have done a lot of

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Speaker 3: things under the law that he didn't do. And I

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Speaker 3: think the reasons for that is this is a political exercise,

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Speaker 3: not a legal one.

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Speaker 2: He also has conflicted himself, right, He's given to give

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Speaker 2: money to the Biden campaign, and also has a daughter

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Speaker 2: who's a Democrat activist who's making more money now than

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Speaker 2: ever before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he should have accused himself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you asked about that, because there's a

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Speaker 3: couple of things about that that really need to be

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Speaker 3: pushed back on. You know. One is, whenever he gets

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Speaker 3: called on this, he waves around this advisory opinion that

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Speaker 3: he got from some judicial ethics channel in New York

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Speaker 3: that said that his campaign contributions were negligible in terms

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Speaker 3: of the low dollar amount, and therefore it was too

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Speaker 3: deminimous to disqualify him. I would point out two things

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Speaker 3: on this which I really wish, you know, we hear

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Speaker 3: more of from from the Trump camp. One is, when

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Speaker 3: someone makes a small dollar amount, you're not a contribution.

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Speaker 3: You're not making that contribution in order to help the

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Speaker 3: candidate win, right, A fifteen dollars contribution.

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Speaker 2: Is no, you're showing you're doing it for yourself, to

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Speaker 2: show what team you're on exactly.

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Speaker 3: And that's to me, in many ways that's just as

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Speaker 3: important when you're talking about a judge, especially as giving

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Speaker 3: a big contribution. The other thing is just it's and

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Speaker 3: you you it has been great writing about this. It's

487
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Speaker 3: just flatly a violation of New York law. Under New

488
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Speaker 3: York judicial ethics law, they're not allowed to give campaign contributions.

489
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Speaker 3: They're not supposed to do it. He apparently merch On

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Speaker 3: got reprimanded for that. There's a letter about it, but

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Speaker 3: he won't release it. So I think that's like to

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Speaker 3: me that should be a very big deal. And as

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Speaker 3: you point out, Lauren merch On, the judge's daughter is

494
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Speaker 3: not only a progressive political operative who does lucrative campaign

495
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Speaker 3: work for top Democrats who define themselves by their opposition

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Speaker 3: to Trump. Her number one client out in California is

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. So you know, it's hard to.

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Speaker 2: And this is also under a I mean, I just

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Speaker 2: I know it's some some libs and some of the

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Speaker 2: talking heads out there would say to this, but it

501
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Speaker 2: only has to look bad, right, It's the appearance of impropriety.

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Speaker 2: It's not actually, you know, it's not the judges taking bribes.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't think the judge can be honest because

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Speaker 2: of these conflicts.

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Speaker 3: Right, And the reasons for that book is very obvious.

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Speaker 3: The legitimacy of the outcomes of the justice system depend

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Speaker 3: on the perception of people that the system is on

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Speaker 3: the up and up. So even if a judge is

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Speaker 3: absolutely confident that he could be fair and objective, and

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Speaker 3: I'm sure in his own mind merch On believes this,

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Speaker 3: even though it seems clear to me that he's a

512
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Speaker 3: very political actor, it doesn't matter whether he actually did

513
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Speaker 3: do things that a conflicted person would do. All that

514
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: matters is that there's enough evidence there to make people

515
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Speaker 3: wonder whether this is all legitimate or not, whether whether

516
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Speaker 3: he's really an objective jurist or not. And if you

517
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Speaker 3: look at the decisions that were made in this prosecution,

518
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Speaker 3: udial decisions from the pre trial stage through to the

519
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: point where we're at now, all of the bad decisions,

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Speaker 3: and there are many, all went in one direction.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like, it's like the media's lies about Trump.

522
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Speaker 2: Whenever they get something wrong, it's really bad for Trump, right,

523
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 2: it's never it's never a story they have to retract.

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Speaker 1: They're like Trump's a great guy. Actually, who knew?

525
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you can you can play the odds all

526
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Speaker 2: this and know exactly what's going on. So Andy you

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Speaker 2: think he's going we're I mean, I think you're probably

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Speaker 2: right given the fact that he gets to sentence him

529
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Speaker 2: without actually incarcerating him. If that's true, I can't because otherwise,

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Speaker 2: if he gives him probation, it's like, why do you

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Speaker 2: bring this case in the first place?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Right, And let's let's remember book. They pitched this as

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Speaker 3: set of the most important job on the planet, the

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Speaker 3: most consequential political position. In the country in the minds

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Speaker 3: of the people who are engaged in this, which would

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Speaker 3: be march On and Bragg's office. This is not a

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Speaker 3: penny anti falsification of business records case. This is Trump

539
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Speaker 3: conspired to steal the presidency and he achieved it.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever have you ever seen, at at a

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Speaker 2: high level of public interest, Andy, a trial like this

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Speaker 2: that is just such a sham? I mean, is this

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Speaker 2: the most absurd criminal justice proceeding at this kind of

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Speaker 2: level of public scrutiny that you can You've ever seen?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen anything worse?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yes, no, I've never seen anything worse. And as

547
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Speaker 3: you know, book, I'm hardly in the tank for Trump.

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Speaker 3: But the only thing that I could say that's even

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Speaker 3: comparable is the civil case against Trump.

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Speaker 6: And look, so the two worst cases, the two biggest

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Speaker 6: miscarriages of justice from the justice system at this level

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Speaker 6: you've ever seen in terms of the process and the

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Speaker 6: abuse would be against Trump.

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Speaker 2: That's astonishing, guys, Clambuck dot com. Andy's peace is linked

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Speaker 2: up there.

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Speaker 1: Go read it.

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Speaker 5: Andy McCarthy, the one and only Andy. Thanks for making

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Speaker 5: the time for us today.

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Speaker 1: We are in the middle of August.

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Speaker 2: We're a week away from the D and C and

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Speaker 2: reportedly a day away from the unveiling of Kamala's first

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Speaker 2: economic policy proposal, price controls, which is perfect. Next, hopefully

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Speaker 2: she'll discuss the need to melt down all the farm

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Speaker 2: can better work in the factories.

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Speaker 1: And maybe we can have.

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Speaker 2: Groups of people counsels, perhaps we can call them soviets,

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Speaker 2: where they can make determinations about the laws of supply

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Speaker 2: not actually what works in the market and what people want.

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Speaker 1: I think you're getting my drift and all that.

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Speaker 2: There is this fascinating game plan that is unfolding before us,

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Speaker 2: in which Kamala Harris is whatever they want her to

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Speaker 2: be and nothing that they don't want her to be.

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Speaker 1: That's how the media is approaching this.

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Speaker 2: If you criticize her, it's either what you're saying is

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Speaker 2: either not true or not her fault. And if there's

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Speaker 2: anything about the Biden four years in office, that polls well,

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Speaker 2: and that voters seem to or at least a majority

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Speaker 2: of voters some swing voters seem to like. Then Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris is the one who's really responsible for that. This

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Speaker 2: is the heavier cake and eat it to campaign. It

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Speaker 2: is the doing of the impossible on a day to

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Speaker 2: day basis. Another part of this I think is pretty amazing,

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Speaker 2: and we can turn to the astute political analysis of

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Speaker 2: Brian Stelter to explain. Remember him, he used to have

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Speaker 2: a show or see it ed or he'd be like,

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Speaker 2: have you said what's going on at Facts News? It's

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Speaker 2: just not the kind of gold stand there journalism that

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Speaker 2: we expect over here at CNED and then they.

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Speaker 1: Can just show and that was the end of that.

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Speaker 1: But here he is.

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Speaker 2: Telling everybody that the real thrust of the Harris Walls

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Speaker 2: campaign is it's just joy.

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Speaker 1: I'd bridled joy. Listen.

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Speaker 7: I think Trump world's jealous of the joy right now.

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Speaker 7: There's so much anger coming from Trump's speeches. Joy is

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Speaker 7: real and it's important. People can make fun of it

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Speaker 7: and say focus on the policy, But if you ask

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Speaker 7: political scientists and psychology professors, they'll tell you the emotions

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Speaker 7: matter in policies. Yes, sometimes they matter a lot more

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Speaker 7: than the policies. And that's I think the big story

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Speaker 7: this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you this. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: many of you have had experience with this before in

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Speaker 2: your lives. The Harror's campaign. He's effectively a manipulative girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: That's the whole campaign. It's constant psychological torture because whatever

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Speaker 2: it is that you think you can agree on, they

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Speaker 2: change the next day. Whatever it is that you think

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Speaker 2: you did, they remember differently. Whatever it is that they're

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Speaker 2: doing is for the best for both of you. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't see it that way, you see what

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Speaker 2: I mean. The Harris Walls campaign, it's Kamala's campaign. Walls

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Speaker 2: has already faded, I think substantially, and everyone realizes that

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Speaker 2: he's not. I think we did get lucky, now that

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Speaker 2: we've had a few days. I think we are lucky

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Speaker 2: that she didn't pick Josh Shapiro, just because it would

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Speaker 2: have made it harder in Pennsylvania. It would have made

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Speaker 2: it harder in Pennsylvania than it is currently going to be.

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Speaker 2: I think, I know I came out of the gates,

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Speaker 2: came out of the gates hot yesterday with I think

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Speaker 2: Trump can actually win more in the electoral college than

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Speaker 2: he did in twenty sixteen. It is possible. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you have to run the table for Pennsylvan, Michigan, Wisconsin again.

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Speaker 2: I feel like he might drop one of those. But

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Speaker 2: he's gonna win Nevada and so it is not all

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Speaker 2: It is not out of the realm of possibility that

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Speaker 2: Trump could do that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it certainly should be the goal.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, a cap head of joy because when you

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Speaker 5: hear Kabala talk, don't you have trempid this joy? Aren't

657
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: you just dead stick a round like this? Let is

658
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 5: the greatest? What else are they gonna say?

659
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Though?

660
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: What else are they gonna offer up?

661
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: They've got to create not just a record for Kamla,

662
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: but really a personality.

663
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: What is your personality?

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00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm telling you because I care about this job so much,

665
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: because I think I have such a responsibility to you.

666
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: I am slowly having my my eyeballs fall out of

667
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: my head as I'm trying to read these Kamala Harris

668
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: biographies that I've got here at my undisclosed location.

669
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Is so boring.

670
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: You can't make Kamala Harris's life seem interesting because it's

671
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: just not.

672
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: You can't make her seem.

673
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 2: Like she's been good or successful at anything other than

674
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: being a part of a Democrat machine that will elevate

675
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: somebody who plays the game for reasons of superficial characteristics.

676
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: For DEI, that's it. I mean, here you go. Elon Musk,

677
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: a lot of Elon.

678
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: Talked this week.

679
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: He's phenomenal, probably the great Elon Musk phenomenal. Some people

680
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: are saying he tweeted this out on the platform that

681
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: he owns after sleeping on it. My conclusion is that

682
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 2: the United States is indeed lost if there is another

683
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: four years of open borders, failure to prosecute crime, law fare,

684
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: and increased censorship.

685
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: It's not even about the candidate.

686
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Kamala is obviously just a docile puppet of the system.

687
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: And that last line is what particularly a puppet of

688
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: the system, and that is the truth that Kamala Harris

689
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: is just there as a figurehead, just like Joe Biden was.

690
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: Neither of them have any policy vision, particularly, they just

691
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: come from within the Democrat machinery and they know they

692
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: can count on the media to create these narratives around them,

693
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: the things like, oh my gosh, ah the joy Steltz

694
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: talks about the joy. I don't think anybody who has

695
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: been paying attention to Kamala Harris for the last four

696
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: years there joy isn't the first thing that comes to mind,

697
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: certainly not for the staffers to whom she has been

698
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: abusive for years and who all leave working for the

699
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: Vice President's office very quickly and have been leaking against

700
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: her and making her seem like an incompetent and a

701
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: nasty person at that.

702
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's a puppet of the system.

703
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: And this is why I wouldn't I wouldn't go as

704
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: far as elon. You know, I'm never gonna do this

705
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: thing if the country has lost, although maybe the country

706
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: is lost if we lose the select I don't know.

707
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,919
Speaker 2: Because if Donald Trump can't beat Kamala Harris, that means

708
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: that Donald Trump, who was the overwhelming pick of the

709
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: Republicans in the primary.

710
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 1: There were people who wanted Rondo Santis, there were people

711
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: who wanted Nikki Haley. They weren't just.

712
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: Talked over, they were shouted down and really beaten up

713
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: pretty badly in the primary.

714
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: So you know, this is it right.

715
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, the people that wanted Trump, they wanted Trump

716
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: what they didn't want to hear anything else. And it

717
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: was an overwhelming majority of the Republican primary voters that

718
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: came forward and said it should be Trump. I'm merely saying,

719
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: if after that choice, our guy loses to Kamala Harris,

720
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: it means that Trump would have lost to any Democrat

721
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: basically who didn't have dementia.

722
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: And we have a lot of soul searching to do

723
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: as a party, that's for sure. But this is also

724
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: why it's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Trump's

725
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna win.

726
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: I'm telling you Trump is gonna win. We just need

727
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: to stay focused. Everyone needs to go out, everyone needs

728
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: to vote, everyone needs to do their part, and it'll

729
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: be okay. But to watch them create the construct of

730
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: Kamalaism in real time, put the policies together, and the

731
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: promise of what this administration would be. I think that

732
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: all Democrat voters know that whichever Democrat is in the

733
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: White House, you basically get the same output. Again, puppet

734
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: of the system, you get the same output. Now ever

735
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: since Obama, that's the system has gone so far left

736
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: and the left has become so dominant within the Democrat

737
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: Party that whichever you know, whichever Democrat you have, there

738
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: pretty interchangeable. I mean Joe Biden, people, forget this. Joe

739
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: Biden as president had his White House putting out statements

740
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: about how important it was to protect the rights.

741
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: Of trans kids to transition.

742
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: Old man Biden's White House from the White House, mind you,

743
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: was putting out statements about how we need thirteen year

744
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: olds to have their organs removed and go on puberty

745
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: blockers and all this stuff.

746
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: You know, you would expect that maybe.

747
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: From the AOC types of the Democrat Party. But my

748
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: point is the AOC types of one that is the

749
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: Democrat Party. There is no other Democrat party. The far

750
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: left now runs the Democrat Party. They aren't just the vanguard,

751
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: they are the brain trust, the control center. They aren't

752
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: just the hard liners. They're the ones who are calling

753
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: the shots. And you saw that where Joe Biden was

754
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 2: shoved aside. Isn't it amazing You go back and look

755
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: at what has happened with Democrats in recent years. So

756
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: Hillary's running against Bernie and they can't convince enough Americans

757
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: to vote for an outright self described socialist. So the

758
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: super delegates in the Democrat Party decide effectively, I meaning

759
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: the system puppet up the system that Bernie's gonna lose,

760
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: Hillary's gonna win. Right, that happened twenty twenty primary. You

761
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: have I'm trying to remember who was even leading. I

762
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 2: think Elizabeth Warren and Bernie and you know, some of

763
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: the socialist bros. Looked like they might be getting their

764
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: way again, the Bernie bros. And then all of a sudden,

765
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: you go into South Carolina primary and just a deal

766
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: was clearly struck. The Democrat power base, the people, the

767
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: same kind of people that pushed Biden out of being president.

768
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: They said Biden's going to be the nominee, and all

769
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: of a sudden everyone just fell on line. He was

770
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: like in six or seventh place or something, and then

771
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: he's always going to be the guy.

772
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: It looked like he was going to lose to.

773
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: Pete Buddha Judge, and sure enough Biden became the guy

774
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: by party elite decision making. And now Biden becomes the president,

775
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: wants to run, starts his run, goes to the debate,

776
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: as the nominee is saying, I get to decide I'm

777
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: the president, and somehow the machine forced him out. So

778
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: this is why it's really it's dangerous, for dangerous for

779
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 2: us to think of this as well. Kamala Harris her

780
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 2: weaknesses alone will deliver the presidency to Trump, or if

781
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: people only know I mean, that's a part of it.

782
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: You have to expose it.

783
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: You have to work for every vote, and Kamala's weaknesses

784
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: have to be a part of the conversation. But ultimately

785
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: we are faced with running against a system, a very

786
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: powerful I've said this all along, as you know, this

787
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: is why I thought Biden could be dangerous, even though

788
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: it was so clear he was too old and had dementia,

789
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: because they were the system was hiding. Remember, the system

790
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 2: was hiding Biden's decline from the American people with some success.

791
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he was going into the summer behind Trump.

792
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: But you know it was striking distance. Think about how

793
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: insane that is. The Democrat Party faithful were willing to

794
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: completely reject the evidence of their own eyes and ears

795
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: in order to cast a vote for somebody who has

796
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 2: a form of senility over Donald Trump.

797
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: The entire party was.

798
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: Comfortable with that until they realized all of the undecided,

799
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 2: and all the swing voters were going to go against

800
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: him after that debate, or at least a huge number

801
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: of them were, and then the system kicked in again,

802
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: So Kamala. My ultimate takeaway here is Kamala is replaceable,

803
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: just as Biden was replaceable, obviously, and therefore we have

804
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: to think about this as we are running against a mischie.

805
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: We're running against an apparatus.

806
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: And that's why we have to take this incredibly seriously

807
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 2: and focus on this until the very end. No matter

808
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: how badly the debates go for Kamala, no matter how

809
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: much she messes up, whatever minimal press she's going to do,

810
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: they have enough muscle. The Democrats have enough muscle to

811
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: make it a close selection, and the country is politically

812
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: divided enough that it will be a close selection.

813
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: So we can't sleep on any of this.

814
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: I hope Elan's wrong that four more years of open borders,

815
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: failure to prosecute crime, lawfare, and increase censorship is the

816
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: end of us. But I'm not saying he's wrong because

817
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how many more terms

818
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: or how many more years we can go through of

819
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: ten million illegals piling into the country and more and

820
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: more debt, thirty five trillion in debt, and call it

821
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: thirty million illegals in America and at a border that

822
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: we can't close because we're unwilling to tell people I'm sorry.

823
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: You don't just get to show up here and then

824
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: claim a right to the property of the Americans who

825
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: are here.

826
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: Which is what they're doing. The moment that an illegal

827
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: is here.

828
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: They are getting the benefit of being in America, and

829
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: your tax dollars and your labor and hours from your

830
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: life are going toward caring for these tens of millions

831
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: of illegals, and the government takes that from you under

832
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: the threat of force and ruination. So the government will

833
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: take from you to give to people who break the

834
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: very laws that the government uses to justify taking from you.

835
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Speaker 2: It's not sustainable. And I don't know, I don't know

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00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: if for four years we can just batten down the

837
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Speaker 2: rich and powerful. It's available to everyone. More Americans than

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Speaker 2: ever now own gold or silver. For those who purchased

841
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Speaker 2: the precious metals over the last year, they've done very well.

842
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Speaker 2: And you know most people don't buy and sell gold

843
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Speaker 2: with a fast turnover in mind. They buy it as

844
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Speaker 2: part of their savings plan or even their retirement plan.

845
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Speaker 2: Gold appreciates over time. It has proven to be a

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Speaker 4: By contrast, I'm announcing today that, under my leadership, the

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Speaker 4: United States will commit to the ambitious goal of slashing

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Speaker 4: energy at electricity.

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Speaker 8: Prices by half, at least half. We intend to slash

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Speaker 8: prices by half within twelve months, at a maximum eighteen months.

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Speaker 1: And if it doesn't work out, you say, oh, well

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Speaker 1: I voted for him. I still got them down a lot.

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Speaker 1: But we're looking to do it.

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Speaker 4: We're looking to cut them in half, and we think

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Speaker 4: we'll be able to do better. And every single thing

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Speaker 4: that I promised, I produced, every single thing.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Biden administration ban drilling in nearly half of

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Speaker 2: a half of Alaska petroleum reserve. So Biden is making

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Speaker 2: your gas and your energy. And remember only about half

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Speaker 2: of petroleum go into cars. You know, half of oil

876
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: goes into cars. The other half goes into petroleum based products,

877
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Speaker 2: huge range of products, so so many things that cost. Again,

878
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Speaker 2: this gets back into economics one on one, which is

879
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Speaker 2: the nemesis of democrats. If you understand basic economics, apply

880
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: and demand surplus, things that just you would learn in

881
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 2: the first few weeks. You know, surplus and shortage, and

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Speaker 2: you would learn these things in the first few weeks

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Speaker 2: of any class on the subject. Then you would realize

884
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Speaker 2: a lot of their policies are just insane.

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Speaker 1: There's just no.

886
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Speaker 2: Way you could believe it'll work the way that they

887
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 2: claim that it will. And yet here we are. You

888
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: have Trump saying that he wants to bring down the

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Speaker 2: cost of energy, and Biden because of the climate nuts

890
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Speaker 2: and they are nuts are out there telling everybody, oh,

891
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: we need to stop the drilling. And Kamala's on the record.

892
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Speaker 2: We've heard her. I've played the clip for you saying

893
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Speaker 2: she wants to ban fracking, which would not only result

894
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Speaker 2: in depression, but I mean it would you have starvation.

895
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Speaker 2: I mean it would be the Walking Dead without the zombies.

896
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Speaker 2: If you caught half of our sixty percent of our

897
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Speaker 2: fossil fuel production by getting rid of fracking. It's insane.

898
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Speaker 2: It's just a it's a crazy thing. If it wasn't crazy,

899
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Speaker 2: people would be defending it.

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Speaker 1: Right.

901
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Speaker 2: No, they just say, oh, well, she changed her mind,

902
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Speaker 2: she changed her mind. We have so many great vip

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Speaker 1: Let's see Anthony. Here we go.

922
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Speaker 2: I'm an insurance rep for a Level two trauma hospital.

923
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: We have about two hundred beds. Part of my job

924
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: is to go see illegals and see if we can

925
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: get them hooked up with emergency time limited Kentucky Medicaid.

926
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Speaker 2: They have no worries whatsoever, free healthcare, food, housing, having

927
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Speaker 2: babies at will, paid for childcare, et cetera. Our veterans

928
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Speaker 2: and seniors have worked all of their lives for their

929
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Speaker 2: families in this country, and their social Security checks are

930
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Speaker 2: less than half of what full benefits are for illegals.

931
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Speaker 2: It blows owse my mind. Sometimes I feel bad about

932
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Speaker 2: what I do. That said, I have to eat and

933
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Speaker 2: I have to pay the bills. Well, look, Anthony, thank

934
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Speaker 2: you for telling us about this. And it's important that

935
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Speaker 2: people who understand these issues in an up close and

936
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Speaker 2: personal way and really really see the nuances share that

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Speaker 2: with everybody so that they understand. I mean, that's very

938
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Speaker 2: powerful what you just said in this VIP email, that quote.

939
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Speaker 2: Our veterans and seniors have worked all of their lives

940
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Speaker 2: for their families in this country, and their social Security

941
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: checks are less than half of what full.

942
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: Benefits are for illegals.

943
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Speaker 2: So people who have violated the laws of America to

944
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Speaker 2: be here are given more by the government than the

945
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Speaker 2: people who paid into this government for decades of their

946
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Speaker 2: working lives.

947
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Speaker 1: It's it's horrible. It's horrible that this is what's going on.

948
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Speaker 2: You know, there is at some level the left wing

949
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Speaker 2: thinks that this is that there's punishment of America that

950
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: is happening with this, and that's a good thing. Don't

951
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: ever forget that they view the denigration of America as justice,

952
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: and they view our role in the world and the

953
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: particularly when they bring the racial component of this. You know,

954
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 2: America is an incredibly diverse country, but they still will

955
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Speaker 2: think of America as a country that is somehow the left,

956
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: including white leftists of course, they're really running this. They

957
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Speaker 2: think of America as a country that is has you know,

958
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Speaker 2: a white supremacist history and white supremacist inclinations globally still,

959
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Speaker 2: so they think that we as a country get what

960
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: we deserve by people coming here and taking advantage of us,

961
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Speaker 2: because we took advantage of the rest of the world

962
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Speaker 2: to become so wealthy, particularly the non white world.

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Speaker 1: That is the view of the of the left.

964
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Speaker 2: You know, they get into the ties into the anti

965
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Speaker 2: colonial narratives, it ties into.

966
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Speaker 1: All that stuff. So yeah, it's.

967
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Speaker 2: It's really it's really stunning to see how much democrats

968
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Speaker 2: are willing to just step on and spit on their

969
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Speaker 2: own country in their pursuit of power.

970
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: But they're they're absolutely dedicated to it.

971
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Speaker 2: It makes them feel a lot of them have deep

972
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: inferiority complexes and are very insecure as people, even if

973
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: they come across as quite arrogant and certain of themselves.

974
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Speaker 1: In these political debates.

975
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: Leftists tend to be miserable, lacking in purpose, and have

976
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: deep insecurities, and so they don't take pride in being American.

977
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Speaker 2: They take pride in thinking of themselves as better than America.

978
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: Their job is to fix America because they are better.

979
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: The progressives, the left, they're better than this country. Once

980
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: you start to see things that way, you can unsee them,

981
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? John, another VIP rights in

982
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Speaker 2: Kamalo won't debate, so Trump needs to hold a weekly

983
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: pressed conference challenging her to answer questions. Your analysis of

984
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: social Security and Medicare was spot on Trump's. You do

985
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 2: the math and let us know how fast the programs

986
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: for seniors will run out under the Harris Wallace administration

987
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: and challenge common the media, the debate or answer this question.

988
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 2: We'll get the senior vote. John, Thank you. First up.

989
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there is going to be a debate between

990
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Speaker 2: Trump and Harris, at least that's what's been agreed to.

991
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: There'll be a couple of them and then there'll be

992
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 2: one VP debate. And as for entitlement social security Medicare,

993
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Speaker 2: I wish I could say that an argument rooted in facts, numbers,

994
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 2: truth is sufficient, but it's not. People have a very

995
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: and I get there's people have very emotional attachment because

996
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: the government has been taking from them, which is, you know,

997
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: you don't have an option with this. The governments forced

998
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: you into these programs, and you've had your paychecks lightened

999
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 2: for in many cases, you know, decades and decades. And

1000
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: to hear anyone say that there can be any change

1001
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: in that contract with you, I understand why that's like,

1002
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: that's not fair, that's upsetting, right, But we have to

1003
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Speaker 2: draw some line about how we change it then now

1004
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: for the people who haven't been paying into it for

1005
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: decades and have not you know, gone through that whole,

1006
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 2: that series of takings over so many years, so that

1007
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: we can have a program that is more sustainable for

1008
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 2: the long haul. But I don't think we're going to

1009
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Speaker 2: get there anytime soon. I think the only way that

1010
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 2: some of these things get handled is true financial crisis,

1011
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: and at that point it's too late. But at least

1012
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: at that point something is done. You can't win in

1013
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: this country, Republican Democrat doesn't matter. Nobody wants to hear

1014
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 2: it look, even Trump, Trump says no one will touch

1015
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: social Security, no one will touch Medicare, and the Democrats

1016
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: want to expand these things, which is even they're just

1017
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: throwing gasoline on the fire. I mean, they're on another planet.

1018
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: But it's it feels somewhat pointless to even try to

1019
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 2: advocate for reform twenty of these things. That was Paul

1020
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Ryan's big thing, if you remember back in the twenty

1021
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: twelve era, was going to be figuring out ways that

1022
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Speaker 2: we could make social Security and Medicare.

1023
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: Social Security is pretty pretty easy to fix. Medicare it's

1024
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Speaker 5: a tougher.

1025
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Speaker 2: One, but how to make them sustainable indefinitely? And majority electorate,

1026
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Speaker 2: especially seniors, don't want to hear it. I just don't

1027
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: want to hear it. And that's it. So I wish

1028
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Speaker 2: that it wasn't the case, but it is the political reality.

1029
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Speaker 2: Katrina Riots hello from the communist state of Colorado. I'm

1030
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Speaker 2: a conservative teacher of twenty years. Not all teachers are liberals.

1031
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: There are actually more of us than people realize. Hey,

1032
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: Brian Joy meaning Brian Stelter, doesn't put food on the table,

1033
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Speaker 2: pay the rent, or put gas in your car. Keep

1034
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 2: up the Great Work Book, thank you, Katrina. Oh, I

1035
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: know there are conservative teachers. I have teachers that I

1036
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: had in grammar school that remember me.

1037
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Speaker 1: And listen to this sh show. Now that is a

1038
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Speaker 1: real thing.

1039
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: So there are teachers out there who do little Buck,

1040
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: little tiny buck. It's running around with his giant head

1041
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: and his flop of hair. And I really liked reading

1042
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Speaker 2: this book. I want to tell you about this book

1043
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Speaker 2: that I was reading. You know, let's probably let's not

1044
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: a little bit like Brian Stealter. But yeah, they remember,

1045
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: they listened to the show. So no, I know, look,

1046
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: they're half the country's right wing. You know, you start

1047
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: to do the math on that, You're like, there's right

1048
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Speaker 2: wing people that do everything.

1049
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Speaker 1: Pretty much.

1050
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Speaker 5: Except I'm trying to think, what, you know, what is

1051
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Speaker 5: the what is the profession?

1052
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: This would be actually be an interesting question.

1053
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: What is the profession with the lowest number of you know,

1054
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: people who would self identify as right wing or conservative?

1055
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there are some things that come

1056
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 2: to mind, professor, journalist, actor, you know, but what is

1057
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Speaker 2: number one on that list? I bet if you get

1058
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Speaker 2: I don't have social worker? How many have you ever?

1059
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: Is there a have you ever met a conservative social worker.

1060
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: Maybe they exist.

1061
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1062
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: I've just never met one. I'm trying to think of

1063
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Speaker 2: what else would be what else would be there? I

1064
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 2: know then the medical profession, psychiatrists are the most left wing,

1065
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: so finding a conservative psychiatrist would be like that would

1066
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: be a real unicorn situation. Yeah, you know, there are

1067
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: some jobs where you have very very very few conservatives,

1068
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Speaker 2: But generally speaking, you've got a lot. You've got a

1069
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: lot of us running around, John Wrights, after too many

1070
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: illegals are feeding at the trough. When we have to

1071
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Speaker 2: start denying benefits, there'll be huge riots like we've never seen.

1072
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Speaker 2: And John, I mean, I hope that's not the case, but.

1073
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

1074
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Speaker 2: This is this is the problem is that the government

1075
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Speaker 2: is the government can't say I take from you, the

1076
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Speaker 2: American and if you don't give me what I want,

1077
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Speaker 2: I'll take away your freedom to give to the illegals

1078
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Speaker 2: who aren't supposed to be be here. But I'm ignoring

1079
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: the same law that says I get to take from you. Right,

1080
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: It's either the law is what it is or it's

1081
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Speaker 2: something else. And this is why, this is why the

1082
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: effects of the massive illegal immigration are so corrosive across

1083
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 2: the society overall, because what you're seeing is the system

1084
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Speaker 2: actually elevating people that should be, if anything, in a

1085
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: secondary position as it pertains to law, because they're breaking

1086
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Speaker 2: the law by being here, and it's lowering the people

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