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Speaker 1: What's a Bachelor Happy Hour? I'm Becca Kuprin and I'm

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Speaker 1: Michelle Young, and we are back again this week with

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Speaker 1: a double episode recap as we get into everything with hometowns,

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Speaker 1: with the families, and also the women tell All, and

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Speaker 1: then very shortly we're gonna I feel like we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do our little own women tell all over here in

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Speaker 1: a happy hour because we are going to have our girls, Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: Mercedes and Alion very shortly. Yes, we're so excited. We

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Speaker 1: have so much to talk about and so much to

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Speaker 1: speak to them about their experience at the tell All.

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Speaker 1: Plus we are getting all of their thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: insanely exciting announcement of our new bachelorette Charity. Yay, Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, it feels so good to finally be able

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. And what were your thoughts when

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Speaker 1: you saw that charity was announced. I feel like we

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Speaker 1: manifested this. I was like, yes, it worked because those

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Speaker 1: were like who have been listening will understand that Beck

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Speaker 1: and I have been like campaigning for charity, I think,

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Speaker 1: really like putting it out there in the universe for

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Speaker 1: her to be the next bachelorette. And so I was

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Speaker 1: like damn right, so deserving, and then I texted her

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Speaker 1: in two seconds, Yeah, I'm so happy for her, and

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Speaker 1: we like, if anyone hasn't listened to the episode a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago and we had Charity on Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you to go back, stop listening to

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Speaker 1: this one right now, come back to this one, but

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Speaker 1: go back and listen to Charity's episode because she is

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Speaker 1: just such an incredible, well rounded woman, so deserving and

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Speaker 1: really like, I think anyone from this season would have

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Speaker 1: been very deserving to be in that position, but especially Charity.

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Speaker 1: And also like it's been several years since we've seen

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Speaker 1: a lead of color. It's about damn time. I'm so

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Speaker 1: excited for Charity. I feel like she is just going

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Speaker 1: to bring something totally new to being the lead, and

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Speaker 1: so I cannot wait. I'm absolutely thrilled for her. I

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Speaker 1: message her and as like, I'm sending you so much

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Speaker 1: bored down. You got to pop these bottles before you

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Speaker 1: start filming, which I think is going to be like

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Speaker 1: very soon. She has such a quick turnaround, so she

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Speaker 1: is probably deep in interviews and fittings figuring out all

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Speaker 1: of her beautiful gown she's gonna wear to all those

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Speaker 1: rows ceremonies. But yeah, Charity, if you were listening, we're

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Speaker 1: so thrilled for you and we support you and we

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Speaker 1: are so excited to see you, hopefully, fingers crossed find

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Speaker 1: the one during your time as the lead. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: They would have picked some good men for her, as

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Speaker 1: I'm coming after them. They better I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like they've done I mean, they've done

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Speaker 1: such a good job casting with SAX season. It seems

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Speaker 1: like we just really great women that we better see

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Speaker 1: that with the men too. So at the end of

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Speaker 1: every Happy Hour, we always announced that they're still casting

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Speaker 1: and you can't apply or nominate someone. So if you know,

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Speaker 1: if anyone, make sure you do that for our girl, Charity,

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Speaker 1: nothing but the best for her. So before we, you know,

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Speaker 1: bring the women on and talk about the tell all

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Speaker 1: and this big reveal, let's get into hometowns a little bit,

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Speaker 1: because we did have these back to back episodes. What

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Speaker 1: were your takeaways from Hometowns? Did you have a favorite

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Speaker 1: hometown date out of the four women? Hometowns are always

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Speaker 1: such an interesting episode to watch because you see how

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Speaker 1: the families are able to kind of just take the

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Speaker 1: but even just as a lead or a contestant. Hometowns

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Speaker 1: a lot of times are what make or break the relationship,

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Speaker 1: think it was brother Dad that asked Zach right off

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Speaker 1: But it is intense. It's an intense situation, so you

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Speaker 1: brother did ask very valid questions that, yes, if my

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Speaker 1: all four of them, Ariel's family definitely seemed the most difficult,

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Speaker 1: love to highlight Charity's hometown because she had a bigger hometown.

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Speaker 1: He not only met like her parents, he met her brother,

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Speaker 1: me and Maiah. I really liked him. I know Charity

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Speaker 1: nice to see this moment where her friend challenged Charity

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Speaker 1: one more thing. Well wait, good time. Do you have

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Speaker 1: those listening, Beca sent me a photo and a video

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Speaker 1: there was other things that we're taking place. Becca, can

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Speaker 1: we're all fallen in love. Yea great feelings. They go

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Speaker 1: food between Zach's front teeth. And I don't know how

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Speaker 1: But poor Zachie had something. I don't know what he

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Speaker 1: tell him, it was there. It was very apparent. But

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Speaker 1: one last thing before we get into bringing our guests on,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to pivot from hometowns to now women

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Speaker 1: and so it was really nice. It was especially nice

429
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: for me to watch Kylie and Stas had that opportunity

430
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: to talk. Both of them I was really really close with,

431
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: So for me, it was definitely a sticky situation where

432
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I always took a step back, didn't want to over

433
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: engage in either girls just because they are both my friends.

434
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: So it was nice to see them both be able

435
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: to say their peace, say what they needed to say

436
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: so that we can all move on as a collective.

437
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: We're saying would about for you? Yeah, So, like Alie,

438
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't really involved in much drama. But Kylie is

439
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: like my ride or dad, that's my girl. So going

440
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: in to tell all I told her, I'm like, hey,

441
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: like I got your back, Like if you ever need

442
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: me to, like step up like I will, because you're

443
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: my girl, I got you. But she handled herself so well,

444
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of how she just her aunt staus.

445
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: Like Ali said, I mean, I'm friends with both of them,

446
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: so it was really nice seeing them be able to

447
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: talk to each other and figure everything out. But that

448
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: was really all I planned on speaking on, and I

449
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: didn't have to because Kylie did such a good job

450
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: of myself. So there's obviously, I'm sure a lot that

451
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: went down that day that we just didn't have the

452
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: opportunity to see given timing. So since you three were

453
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: actually there, did it seem more calm or more crazy

454
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: than you expected? So this the two part questions did

455
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: it seem more calm or more crazy than what you

456
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: expected the day to be? And then was there anyone

457
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: in that group of women who really surprised you or

458
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: stood out to you? Because I will say there were

459
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: a couple of women that went home night one that

460
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: were very vocal throughout parts and I was like, wait,

461
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: who are you? Like, how how are you speaking on

462
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: this if you weren't there? So I want your take

463
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: since you were all there, Mercedes, let's start with you

464
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, some people definitely showed up and

465
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: showed out. Um took me for a loose a little bit.

466
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: There was a night night one that I was just

467
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: kind of like, whoa, you know, like where I mean,

468
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: everyone deserves to have an opinion, obviously, and I respect

469
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: that so much, but it was kind of like whoa.

470
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think she just wanted to put her

471
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: opinion out there because she didn't have much time to

472
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: do that, so she got to do it till one

473
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: and she went for it. So didn't Did the days

474
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: seem overall seem more calm or was it more wild

475
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: than you expected? Honestly both a little bit. Like I

476
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: feel like the drama that we saw on the show

477
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: was very like everyone was very mature about it and

478
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: they actually like talked it through like adults. Um. And

479
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: then you know, there was some random things that nobody

480
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: knew about that it was like from left field. You

481
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: were just like what, like when, how did you know that?

482
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Or what like? So that was just confutence. That was

483
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: a little crazy, But I would say for the most part,

484
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: it was pretty conqul collected. That's I was gonna say.

485
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: It was definitely more feissy than I expected. Watching it,

486
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: just because so much of the drama weather was. I'm

487
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: sure there was always drama in the house that was

488
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: not you know, being spoken about or anything like that,

489
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: but like it very much. So like let's get into

490
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: specific moments, okay, because we all know we're gonna bring

491
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: this person up, Christina. I'm gonna throw Christina. How was

492
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: it like seeing Christina again and just with what happened

493
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: while she was on the show in the house and

494
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: traveling with you guys, what has happened. I know that

495
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: we all can't necessarily communicate and talk once you get

496
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: let go up into a Woman Tell It All, but

497
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: everybody's on social media and everybody can kind of like

498
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: see what everybody else is doing. And there's just been

499
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: a lot that has been going on, and then there

500
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: was a lot that happened at Woman Tell All. So

501
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: what were your guys's thoughts on seeing her again? Seeing

502
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: Christina again at tell All? You know, I knew that

503
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: the drama was going to come up. I actually, like

504
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I haven't really seen anything like on social media, like

505
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: directly from her, but I mean she does have quite

506
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: the following, like a lot of people really support her,

507
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: which is great. Everyone needs and deserve support in this world.

508
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: But seeing her again a tell all. I was like, oh, Lord,

509
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: who would go? Like I wonder if she like kind

510
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: of recognized what happened, especially being able to watch it back,

511
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: and like maybe kind of where she went wrong or

512
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: how her actions were affecting others. So I was interested

513
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: to see how that was going to go. I was

514
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: a little nervous, honestly, because she does do a pretty

515
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: good job of she knows exactly what to say and

516
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: how to say it, but I don't feel like her

517
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: actions actually portray that. So I was interested to see

518
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: did we have a learning moment from this opportunity watching

519
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: it back? Or are we still blown smoke? And I

520
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: feel like we're still blown smoke. But I wanted to

521
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: ask you that because for the most part, I think

522
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: that's what people were expecting to be. Like. Probably one

523
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: of the most dramatic moments was everyone's interaction and confrontation

524
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: with Christina. It seemed fairly tame from a viewer standpoint,

525
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: But she did as you said, Brooklyn. It seemed like

526
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: she was saying the right things, like she took accountability.

527
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: She knows that she screwed up where she went wrong

528
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: and left it at that, But did it feel genuine?

529
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: Because again, you were there, all three of you. You

530
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: were there with her in person, so I wanted to know,

531
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: as you said, does it feel like smoke's being blown

532
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: up the ass or did it feel actually real? And

533
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: I want all three of you to answer that, Yeah,

534
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean in the moment, it seemed genuine. However, you know,

535
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if she'll ever really have an opportunity

536
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: to be back in that situation, and I haven't spoke

537
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: to her sins or seen her or anything, so I

538
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: don't know because I'm not really monitoring her actions. I

539
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: guess you could say, but the way she spoke did

540
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: seem genuine. Spot it tells me this girl's going to

541
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: be on the sand. Okay, there's no way that she's

542
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: not going to be on the sand, and this girl

543
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: is going to be Alie. How did you feel about

544
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: her response? And I don't even know if i'd call

545
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: it like an apology per se, but just her response

546
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: to everyone when they brought up to issues. I do

547
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: think her response was genuine. However, I think she's oblivious

548
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: to how her actions affected others, and so I think

549
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: she genuinely meant everything she said, but it's still negated

550
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: the fact that you did say things that were harmful

551
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: and you never took time to take yourself out of

552
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: your headspace and understand how those things affected other people.

553
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: And while I also do not follow for the most part,

554
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: any of them, I think in the beginning, we all

555
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: like look up bachelor stuff, and then after a week

556
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: you're like, OK, this is way too much. Stuff didn't

557
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: pop up and go viral where she was talking about,

558
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: you know, Brianna, And for me, that was again doubling

559
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: down on While I think her intentions were to be goofy, silly, funny,

560
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: you're still negating the fact that that is harmful to Brianna.

561
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: And so from that standpoint, lover her, respect her, glad

562
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: that we can move forward. But I still think there

563
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: are their actions that need to be taken so that

564
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: she fully understands, like the power that she holds and

565
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: the repercussions that she holds in the following that she has.

566
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, she is hilarious and she is funny, so

567
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: people jump on that bandwagon, and Brianna does get mean

568
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: messages and does get things that because everyone doesn't understand

569
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: the full story. And so I feel like that's the

570
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: part that hurt me at tell All is listening to

571
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: all this back and being a friend of Brianna's and

572
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: knowing that she wasn't here to defend herself and she

573
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: isn't here to say the things that she needs to say,

574
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: and so all people get to hear is Christina's apology. Yeah,

575
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: and that it's just half of the story. So I

576
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: hope that people take away from that, take a step back,

577
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: and still see that there's another human being that was

578
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: a part of this, who is getting the rougher or

579
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: the shorter end of the stick and all this. So

580
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, what were your thoughts on Brianna

581
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: not being there? You know, I I don't know why

582
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: she was or was not mean, I don't know why

583
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: she wasn't there. I have no idea what went into

584
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: that decision or or if she was invited or if

585
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: she wasn't invited. So I don't know that, but I

586
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: was happy if she made the decision to not come.

587
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: I think it takes a lot with all of this

588
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: to put your mental health first and to put yourself first.

589
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: It is much easier to say well, I'm just gonna

590
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: go there and I'm gonna defend myself and I'm gonna

591
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: do this. But if that's gonna mess you up more,

592
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: then like, do take a step back. Let people say

593
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: what they want to say, do you. And So, while

594
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the reasoning for why she wasn't there,

595
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I hope that she was able to just take a

596
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: breather because this has been a fun roller coaster, but

597
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: none of us expected half of the things we got,

598
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: and I think she had a lot of attention on

599
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: her that she was not prepared for. So I just

600
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: hope that it was a breather that she got to

601
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: have and I respected if she needed that moment. Yeah, yeah,

602
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: it's you. I mean, you have to handle it with care,

603
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: and like that's the hard thing is that repercussions and

604
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: consequences oftentimes, like when you talk about what a genuine

605
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: apology looks like, and sometimes it's hard when you have

606
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: to sit and wait for an audience to see it

607
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: call it out, for you to really feel that pressure.

608
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: Now the kitchen is really hot and now you want

609
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: to apologize. It's like it is this interesting environment where

610
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want to say. And you

611
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: can have the girl, you know, girls or other contestants

612
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: that around you say something that might create issues and

613
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: there's cameras there, but like the actual public repercussions don't

614
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: come out until months later. And that's often when the

615
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: apologies come out, when I would love for them to

616
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: naturally come out before them, and it just sometimes takes

617
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: it away. But then also you can see people who

618
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: sometimes that takes that is what it takes for them

619
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: to understand that they really did something wrong. Well, okay,

620
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: let's ask this then. Was there ever a moment that

621
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: and maybe the three of you don't know because maybe

622
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: it didn't happen to you directly, But as far as

623
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: you're aware, did Christina ever reach out and apologize for

624
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: her actions, maybe directly to Brial or to any of you,

625
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, for the issues that she caused when she

626
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: was like really making everything about herself. Was there any

627
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: apology prior to the tell All? Not that I'm aware of.

628
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't have to apologect to me obviously,

629
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: but like not that I'm aware of. Um. I think

630
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: she said that it tell All that she because I

631
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: had asked her, I said, you know, did you reach

632
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: out to Brihanna and talk about this, and she said no,

633
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: And I was like, what you're making tiktoks about her?

634
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Oh the TikTok with the face on it at the end.

635
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: That rubs me. That rubs me. Brooklyn's gonna get all

636
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: fired up again. I don't know, Peace Brooklyn, protect your piece?

637
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: YEA recorded that shit. I don't know that. The only

638
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: way you can protect your piece is to stay off

639
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: social in general. True, there's just there's no way. Okay,

640
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: let's switch gears a little bit from we had this

641
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: whole thing with Christina going on. Sounds like it's still

642
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: going on. I get something tells me that it's going

643
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: to be coming back up, floating around somewhere warm. We'll see.

644
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 1: But what is this? What is this whole bombshell that

645
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: was dropped about Anastasia having a boyfriend? Well, she's on

646
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: the show. Can you all speak more to that? Like?

647
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: Did she was this? This was not the first time

648
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: you guys were hearing about this? Was it? It's the

649
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: first time I had never heard that, So like, yeah,

650
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: tell me more, like this is news? Um, yeah, I

651
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: truly have no idea what it was. I don't know

652
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: if you girls have any more idea than I do. Um,

653
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: I have no clue. It was news to me. Yeah,

654
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: well when she when she said that, I was just like, what, oh, yeah,

655
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: any of your reactions were in that moment, like if

656
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: you could have just screenshot at everyone's face, literally, it

657
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: seems like it can. This is just me. I don't

658
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: know shit. And again, like I don't know a lot.

659
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm such a mom, Like I don't follow like a

660
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: lot of stuff on social media. But it seemed like

661
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: that was kind of just pulled out of thin air

662
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: on a left field from some of the other women

663
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: that I think we're just maybe like trying to have

664
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: a moment of like, well you had a boyfriend, but

665
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't actually factual, backed up, no evidence to this. Yeah,

666
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: and then it was that and I was purely annoyed

667
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: from the just screaming words that made no sense. I

668
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: have receipts. I pulled them out. Where are they like

669
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: just screaming that you have them but not actually backing

670
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: them up, And then back to you do realize this

671
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: affects people's actual lives, right, Like, this is not the

672
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: time to just throw out complete lives, And so I

673
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: don't know, but I know Stas's character and I know

674
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: who she is as a person, and she's not the

675
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: one to hide it. She'd be the one to be like, yeah,

676
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I got two boyfriends, what's good. And so it was

677
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: just annoying because I'm just like, while I can't confirm

678
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: or deny any of this, if you were actually here

679
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: and met her as a person, then you would know,

680
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: like who she is and how she shows up, and

681
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: that's just not how she shows up. I could say

682
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: many things about her, but lying about the people she

683
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: talks to just isn't something. And so if it ever

684
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: did come out to be true, I would still be shocked,

685
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: like jaw on the floor, because that's just not who

686
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: she is. And then that couple with the fact that

687
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: we live in this roster culture. I'm just like, so,

688
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: you're telling me you never talked leading up to this

689
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: show to one boy, kissed one boy, communicate it with

690
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: one boy, like, hand me your phone, Like it's just

691
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: not true, Like it would be a live we all

692
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: said for the months leading up, we just deleted every

693
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: boy in our phone and never desired for someone to

694
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: like us. That's silly and so um boyfriend no boyfriend, flirting,

695
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: no flirting. I'm just like, let's be adults here. You

696
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: can talk to who you want to talk to. She

697
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: was exclusively with Zach from our understanding when she was

698
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: on the show, So like, what does it matter? Like,

699
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, so nobody saw the receipts? No, I

700
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: want to there was that what does that mean mean?

701
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Is it like texts? Is it like pictures? Is it

702
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: text messages? Thread what is it? It sounded like it

703
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 1: was text between the guy that was like watching her dog,

704
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: but but she was like, no, my mom was watching

705
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: my dog. That's why. That's where it just gets muddled.

706
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: And like very much she said, she said, um, since

707
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 1: we're just speaking of an Assassia really quick. Did it

708
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: feel like there was any sort of resolution between her

709
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and Kylie? Did they get to a place of understanding

710
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: or did they just kind of like leave it is

711
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: as is, like, you know, we're not going to be friends,

712
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: but like it's in the past now. What was that

713
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: like for them? I feel like personally there was an understanding.

714
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: I think that Kylie spoke very beautifully and said like

715
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: exactly how she was feeling, and I think Stoss really

716
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: took that and understands it. Stoss is a very like

717
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: intelligent woman, and she knows that. You know, that was

718
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: probably your emotions are crazy there right, like you do

719
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: shit and then you're like okay, looking back, like whatever,

720
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: probably was that serious. But I feel like Stoss really

721
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: took it well, and I think she most likely grew

722
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: from it because that's the type of person she is.

723
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna pivot to a little bit different of dramatic

724
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: moments that went down, and Brooklyn, this one's for you.

725
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: I know you kind of touched on this a little

726
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: bit at the beginning, Like you went in you weren't

727
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: really nervous or have anything specifically to say to anyone.

728
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: What was it like seeing Cat again for the first

729
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: time since you both went home in Where was it Estonia? Yeah,

730
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: when you both went home in Budapest? Yeah, Um, you know,

731
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: seeing Kat. I knew that, like we were gonna have

732
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: to kind of rehash that. I'm very much a person

733
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: where like I've already said it, so like I don't

734
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: really have much else to say it about it, But

735
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 1: of course I knew we were gonna have to kind

736
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: of rehash that. Um, you know, I know, my delivery

737
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: was kind of harsh. I'm fully aware of that. That's

738
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: just kind of how I am. But seeing her, I

739
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: knew it was going to come up, and I feel

740
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: like we both kind of stood strong on where we

741
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: stand on that. So it was a little nerve wracking

742
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: because I was like, it's probably gonna get heated again,

743
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: Like it's not gonna be a peaceful chat. So I

744
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: was nervous just because you know, I don't want to

745
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: be mean or hurt feelings, but I'm gonna stand strong

746
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: on what I said and how I feel. Do you

747
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: feel like you ended on the same page for the

748
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: most part? Yeah? I do. Um, Yeah, I feel like

749
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: we ended on the same page. We're totally fine now.

750
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: You know. We were able to talk about it and

751
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: hash it out. Might have been a harsher hash out

752
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: than most, but at the end of the day, we

753
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: were able to see eye to eye, and I have

754
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: nothing but good things to say about her, Like I

755
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: respect her as a person and I think she's great.

756
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: So we're definitely on the same page now and totally cool.

757
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: M Okay, this is going to be kind of a

758
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: random question, and I'm only asking this because one of

759
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: my friends at the gym actually asked me this question.

760
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: I was like, hmm, that is a good thing that

761
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: maybe I could just ask all of you since we

762
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: have more of you here. Okay, So in the scenario

763
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: with Kat pulling Zach right before Charity's date, like we

764
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: saw that go down, you know, it rubbed everyone the

765
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: wrong way, would you have preferred it to happen in

766
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: that moment or say before, like right as the row

767
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: of ceremonies going on, when you're all standing there waiting.

768
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: It's a long night, and she still chose to interrupt

769
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: everyone's row ceremony and pull Zack aside in that moment.

770
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: Because that happened on our season where I was a

771
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: contestant and people obviously were freaking out. So like, give

772
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: and take, what scenario would you have preferred? This is

773
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: fortunately I kind of Rose ceremony, you know, like we

774
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: all got our chance, we all had our time. It

775
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: was something huge weighing on her, But before Charity's date,

776
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: that was Charity's time, like the second he walked through

777
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: the door her date started. So I would have probably

778
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: still been kind of annoyed had she done that at

779
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, but I would have assumed it was

780
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: something big she had to discuss with him, So I

781
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: would have been a lot more understanding with that, I

782
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: still stand not before the one on one. Yeah, what

783
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: about you, Mercedes an Alley, I would say definitely would

784
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: have much preferred it before the rose ceremony. Honestly, both

785
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: would have annoyed me for two different reasons, like rose

786
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: ceremonies are long, your feet are hurting, and I just

787
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: don't want to stand there. No right. But I feel

788
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: like it comes down to before Charity's date, was taking

789
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: Charity's moment Before the rose ceremony, it's it's it's really

790
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: an all or nothing at that point. And so if

791
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: those two seconds are going to be a make or

792
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: break for you, I say, go get your man and

793
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: take those two seconds. But doing it before Charity's date

794
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: was I mean, unanimously, we were like, that's stealing Charity's

795
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: momentum and it just it was just not okay. So

796
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: before the rose ceremony would have been much more appreciated. Okay, Mercedes,

797
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: thought about you? Um, I would say before the rose ceremony,

798
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: because like Brooklyn said, it's um everyone's time kind of

799
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: Whereas Charity, especially in that situation, because she was supposed

800
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: to get her one on one in London, so it

801
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: was like all leading up to it, and she was

802
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: so excited, and it's kind of just like, oh, like

803
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I got my moment taken from me again, you know.

804
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: So I definitely if that would have been me, I

805
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: would have much rather done that. C. Yeah, I agree,

806
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: It's it's different when it's one person more snuff that

807
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: she was singled out, but singled out in a sense

808
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: versus kind of all of you up against the time,

809
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: all together in solidarity. Um, definitely. I was just really interesting.

810
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,479
Speaker 1: I've been I've been thinking about that for a couple

811
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: of weeks since it happened, and so I'm glad that

812
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I could finally just ask the majority of people here.

813
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: There are so many just read like this season, I think,

814
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: like the whole like read the Room comments could apply

815
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: in so many situations, like just if we just were

816
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: to read the room, so many things wouldn't have happened,

817
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: but just every day in life. All right, let's get

818
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: into more of the Tell all, what did you all

819
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: think of Greer's hot seat? M Michelle and I touched

820
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: about on this a little bit before you were all

821
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: brought on it was we I think we're glad to

822
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: see that conversation. We think that it's a step in

823
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: the right direction. How did you all feel about her

824
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: apology and was there anything that she said or doctor

825
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: Banks or what doctor Banks said that stuck out to

826
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: you or lessons that you think people could take from it. Um, merceadies,

827
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: let's start with you this time. Yeah. Like you said,

828
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that you know it is being discussed

829
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: because that is a step in the right direction, because

830
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: it's it's twenty twenty three, like we do need to

831
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: have those discussions. But I feel like her apology was

832
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: it was good. I mean, there's for for what it was.

833
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that she handled herself very well. Um. I

834
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: appreciated them having um what was the doctor's name again,

835
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: doctor doctor ban Yeah. I thought having her there was

836
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: very cool too, because she was like from a professional

837
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: standpoint and could actually explain everything that was going on. Um.

838
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, I thought I thought it was it was good,

839
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that it was just talked about. M Eli.

840
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: What about for you? I think for me, I definitely

841
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: agree with that what Mercedes said, it's it's a weird

842
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: social experience. This is because the Greer we met was

843
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: not the Greer I thought I was going to have

844
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: to confront post show when you get to read through

845
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: all these things, she, in my opinion, throughout the show,

846
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: never showed signs of that she would have ever had

847
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: commented on things like that. So it was very strange

848
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: to then have to have those conversations like you did

849
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: what independed what? But I think that it was good.

850
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a step in the right direction. I

851
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: genuinely think that she understands what she did. I also

852
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: think that she understands that she was in a situation

853
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: or around people who may not have been influencing the

854
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: right ideals, and so now she can make a decision

855
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: for herself and understand all resources that are available to

856
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: her and what her opinion are on things. And so

857
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: I have nothing but good things to say about Greer

858
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: of the person, and I just hope that she continues

859
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: to take the lessons that she had from doctor Bates

860
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: and really like put it into motion and how she

861
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: can live her life, because that's not who she was

862
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: on the show. So it was very weird to come

863
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: back and read that because I'm like Greer, that's not

864
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: who you are. Why would you have even defended or

865
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: said things like that. I'm glad we now have the

866
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to hold you accountable, but then also moving forward,

867
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: you can hold others accountable too, because she got backlash

868
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: from both sides, people saying why are you apologizing? Like

869
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be apologizing, and others saying no, she definitely

870
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: needs to, it's wrong, and so I'm glad she can

871
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: go back to people who questioned why she apologize and

872
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: also double down to them and be an advocate to say, no,

873
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: this is why what I did was wrong, and I

874
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: stand behind that, and we could all move forward together.

875
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: That's a very good point. And Brooklyn, what about for you? Yeah,

876
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm basically what they said too. I'm glad to see

877
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: that she was able to be accountable for her previous actions.

878
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 1: And I really liked that she was able to sit

879
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: down and take the time to see why she was

880
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: wrong and how she can, you know, not make mistakes

881
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: like that and kind of influence others to see the

882
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: issue that it truly is. I really liked them having

883
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: doctor Banks there to kind of shed some light on

884
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: the situation. Like Mercedes said, from a professional aspect, but

885
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, also, like Ali said, that's not the greer

886
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: we met, So it was you know, hearing about all

887
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: of that and being like, oh what, then seeing her

888
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: take accountability and apologize. I definitely agree as a step

889
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: in the right direction. And although it's unfortunate that it

890
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: ever happened, it's kind of on such a big platform,

891
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: you're able to shed light on the situation and move

892
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: in the right direction and show others. So, you know,

893
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: as unfortunate as it is that happened, I'm glad that

894
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: it happened on a big platform so that you can

895
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: shed light on the situation. Yeah, and we've talked about

896
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: this to the fact that even Jessie at the beginning

897
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: of that whole conversation to kind of narrate it, kind

898
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: of said, we as a whole, as a franchise, have

899
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: been in the wrong and have you know, not necessarily

900
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: dealt with this issue or had the conversations that we've

901
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: needed to have in the past. And that's on us,

902
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: which we appreciate. You know, it's not just like a

903
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: one and done person situation unfortunately, So again, like step

904
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: in the right direction for the franchise too. As a

905
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: whole and Michelle, do you have any final thoughts on

906
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: that part or do you want to get into Yeah,

907
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: it was just how are you? What were you guys

908
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: as thoughts of just having to I mean, I've been

909
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: in a contestant position. Now I've been in a lead

910
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: position and having to take time out of these moments,

911
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: whether it's women to all, whether it's after the final rows,

912
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: to like address these types of things. And you know,

913
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: we had the situation with career, but we also had

914
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: these conversations about microaggressions and being an angry black woman,

915
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: and those are all different things that I also had

916
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: to have conversations about two when I was filming, And

917
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: how did you feel not only addressing those or that

918
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: you're able to address those, but also how did you

919
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: feel that people were responding to those conversations. Whoever wants

920
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: to jump in first, I think that it showed we've

921
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: come far ish, but we still have so much further

922
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: to go. And these conversations, I think, the conversations around

923
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: even microaggressions having too and this goes for everyone, not

924
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: just the two people who are involved in that particular situation.

925
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: Having to then define what a microaggression is and then

926
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: further explain how it doesn't make you a bad person.

927
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it just means you made a microaggression and

928
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: you need to understand why it affects certain people are

929
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: certain and so it's just it's for me personally, it's

930
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: exhausting because I don't want to have to define it

931
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: and I don't want to have to explain it, and

932
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to I don't know, just

933
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: have those conversations and stuff. But at the same time,

934
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: it's so fruitful because we are friends and we have bonded,

935
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: and I know that you're going to likely receive that

936
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: information from me better than you're going to receive it

937
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: from someone else. So I think it puts like, at

938
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: least for myself, myself in a weird situation where I

939
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: have to step out of my comfort zone. And while

940
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to have these conversations or even given

941
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: any airtime, I have to also acknowledge my part in

942
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: this to say, if I don't, then you continue to

943
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: perpetuate something um and as a friend, I don't want

944
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: you to do that, And so m exhausting, but I

945
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: feel like it. I mean, I'm glad it's shone, and

946
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm glad we can show people that, um, we're going

947
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: to continue to move in that direction. Um, you know

948
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: as a collective nicely put. Yeah, that's kind of what

949
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: That's what Beck and I spoke about as well of

950
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: just it. Yeah, you want it, you want to. I'm

951
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: not I'm not going to say the word to celebrate

952
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna say, you know, we're taking us

953
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: of the red direction or anything like that. But like

954
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: you said, it does get exhausting. And even as like

955
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: a woman of color, black women, you also have the

956
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: right to choose when to tap in and tap out

957
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: of those conversations. And that's what I firmly believe, and

958
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: I applaud you for wanting to tap in and definitely

959
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: explaining those things and speaking up. And you know, there's

960
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: also times where you have to protect your peace because

961
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: it's frustrating to constantly have to explain what implicitvice is,

962
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: what microaggressions are, you know, continue to go down that road.

963
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree, it is exhausting because it's kind

964
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: of just like, why is this a conversation? Like I

965
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: wish it was just like everyone just got it, because

966
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: it seems like so easy, like just don't do it.

967
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: But I am like very grateful that, you know, we

968
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: do have this platform and some people watching tell all,

969
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: maybe they didn't even know what microaggressioning was, so now

970
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: they're like aware of it and can learn from it

971
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: and grow from it. But it is, it's frustrating, and

972
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: like you said, sometimes you have to protect your peace

973
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 1: and just be like Okay, I can't deal with that

974
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: right now, but but I'm glad that it's being talked

975
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: about and hopefully people are learning and we'll get it

976
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: right hopefully, so yeah, rather than later, because well, and

977
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I think doctor Banks she had a good part in

978
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: there towards the end when she was wrapping up where

979
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: she's like you can't I think it was you can't

980
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: nice your way out of racism, like and I think collectively,

981
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: like me being a white woman growing up in a

982
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: predominantly white community, there's a lot that we weren't even

983
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: i would say, like aware of growing up, which and

984
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: that's not an excuse, like that's why like now I'm

985
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: trying to push myself forward and learn and educate, and

986
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: we do this resource section every week on the podcast,

987
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: but I think that's been an excuse in the past,

988
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: especially within this franchise, which is predominantly the viewership is white,

989
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like, oh, well, the intent wasn't

990
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: to hurt someone, or I was being nice or whatever

991
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: it might be. And I think that was a good

992
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: one liner that I took from that too, is like

993
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: we can all keep this in mind, especially as a

994
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: white woman watching this show. You can't nice your way

995
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: out of this huge, huge issue that continually takes place

996
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: and can still be perpetuated within this industry, within our country.

997
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm glad that doctor Banks was able to

998
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: be there. So with all that, let's get into the

999
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: part where Zach comes out. Totally flipping sides. Here, Zach

1000
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: comes out on stage. What were all of your first

1001
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: thoughts seeing him again, Brooklyn. We'll start with you. I

1002
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, he's still good looking, good to know,

1003
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: but you know, it was kind of like, I don't know,

1004
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say sad to see him, but I was

1005
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh wow, Like last time I saw you,

1006
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: I was bawling my eyes out going getting on a

1007
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,439
Speaker 1: twenty hour flight, Like it was just kind of brought

1008
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: me back to that moment, you know, of when things ended,

1009
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: but it was nice to see him again. He looks happy,

1010
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: he looks healthy, so it was nice to see him,

1011
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: but also just kind of a shock to the system

1012
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: at first. Brooklyn, I have one more question for you.

1013
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: Did you feel like before you had seen him, did

1014
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: you reach some type of like internal closure. Oh? Absolutely, yeah.

1015
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: I I feel like I kind of I'm not big

1016
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: on I'm not really a closure person because I feel

1017
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 1: like everything happens for a reason in a sense, so

1018
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: I'm not really I didn't feel like I needed to

1019
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: hear from him the nitty gritty like why. So I

1020
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like when I left, I was like, Okay, this

1021
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: isn't my person. It doesn't make it hurt any less.

1022
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: But I feel like I was able to reach that

1023
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: closure really soon. Um didn't make it hurt any less,

1024
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: but MS closure, Yeah, yeah, that's yeah. Independent closure. That's

1025
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: like one of the hardest things to do. So that's amazing.

1026
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: Not always, don't you know, Yeah, I always do it,

1027
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, Alie, I was agreeing with the independent closure part.

1028
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I think by the time Z came out, I was good,

1029
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: mainly because watching it back, I'm not gonna say there

1030
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: was ever any point where I was just like, oh

1031
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm in love with this man, but like

1032
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you're content, You're like hopeful the entire time,

1033
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: like maybe like let's just keep this going, see how

1034
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: this goes. Watching it back and seeing him like put

1035
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: his arms around my shoulders and then his arms around

1036
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: other people's waist, I was like, Oh, I was friends

1037
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Zop a long time ago and I just didn't know.

1038
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: And it's like I feel like I could see the

1039
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: body language watching it back the entire time, and maybe

1040
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: just in our heads we were both like, oh, we're

1041
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: like good people. Like we're good people, Like we'll just

1042
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: we'll continue to like have discussions and talk. So I

1043
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: feel like watching it for me was therapeutic because I

1044
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: was like, this guy was never yours. Your man is

1045
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: not gonna wrap his arm around your neck. He's gonna

1046
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: wrap it around you know you're lower back. Yeah. So

1047
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: I was one of the girls like I sent home

1048
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: over video calls, So that was that was rough. So

1049
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: seeing him in person, I was like, wow, yeah, still

1050
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: very good looking, um, but it was good to see him.

1051
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of the same way Ali like watching it back,

1052
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, yeah, no, we were cool, but

1053
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: like there was no it wasn't like in love so um,

1054
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: but it was. It was good to see him and

1055
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: see all the girls too. It was good. It was fun.

1056
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: And your hug. I was gonna say, you got your hug.

1057
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, no, I know, that was so cute.

1058
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: I was like, because I was talking to kind of,

1059
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like we need like hug at least.

1060
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, everyone gets hug when you lead, right, So

1061
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: that was like such a cute, little sweet moment. And

1062
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: it was fun because he's just like truly, I know

1063
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: everyone says it, but he is so freaking genuine and

1064
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: sweet and like just like getting able to hug him

1065
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: more time. It was just a really sweet moment. Um. Okay,

1066
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: let's get into something very exciting, which is obviously Charity

1067
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: is now the next bachelorette. We are so thrilled for her.

1068
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: How freaking excited are all of you to see one

1069
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: of your good friends now become this lead who was

1070
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: about to go on this crazy journey to find love. Allie,

1071
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: let's start with you. So freaking exciting. I think that

1072
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: we definitely have seen her personality. We'll see her personality.

1073
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure more um when hometowns and stuff, but charity

1074
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: and her charity isms, y'all know, y'all have not seen

1075
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: half of it. Like, this girl is a hoop, a

1076
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: fool hoop. So I'm so excited for her to have

1077
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: an entire season where people get to like, yes, watch

1078
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: her fall in love, but like see her fully for

1079
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: who she is, because I mean, not only is she

1080
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: intelligent and brilliant, but she is hilarious and there's no

1081
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: other girl like her in our cast. Um, So I'm

1082
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: super excited for people to just get to know her

1083
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: as a person. M Oh yeah, I mean charity. Like

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00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: Ali said, she is literally a hoop. Like that girl,

1085
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: I get around her and I won't stop smiling, Like

1086
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: she's just so funny, she is intelligent, she's a therapist,

1087
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: so like she's gonna be able to connect with people

1088
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: and talk people through like feelings and go through her.

1089
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: It'll be such a good season because of that, I

1090
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: think as well. And then on top of her personality

1091
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: is just amazing, and I know that America is actually

1092
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: going to fall in love with her too, So I'm

1093
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: so excited for her, and she deserves the world and

1094
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait to fun or watch her find her person. Okay, Brooklyn,

1095
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pivot this question and ask you if if

1096
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: there is somebody that you could not like looks wise,

1097
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: but like the perfect partner for Charity, give me three

1098
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: qualities that this man has to have for our girl. Okay.

1099
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: He has to be emotionally intelligent, Like I mean, she

1100
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: can hold a conversation at such a high emotional level

1101
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: and intelligence level that she's got to be with someone

1102
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: that is emotionally intelligent and can have those conversations with her.

1103
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: She definitely needs someone I feel like that's quick witted,

1104
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: because she was really funny and just like quick on

1105
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: the draw, and she's going to say something that you're like, Okay,

1106
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: all right, So she needs someone with a good personality,

1107
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: quick witted, emotionally intelligent, and someone with just as big

1108
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: of a loving heart as she has. You know, she's

1109
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: a very loyal person. She needs someone that's going to

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01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: be just as loyal to her as she will be

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: to them. I love that, love that nothing. But if

1112
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: you were to pick out what like Charity's type would be,

1113
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: what would you say? I would say he's definitely tall.

1114
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: I feel like he works out, he's got the muscles,

1115
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: got the body. Um, let's see, Yeah, there's someone tall

1116
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: and muscular, because I mean she's a tiny, petite girl.

1117
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: But I feel like she needs someone that's really tall

1118
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: and strong. Um, that's just who I see it with.

1119
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: Because and someone that's like good looking, because I mean

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: she's gorgeous. So someone's gonna have to be up on

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: her level too. Oh yeah, um, Okay, So we know

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: she has so many great qualities. What do you think

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: are some of her most amazing ones that will make

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: her just a fabulous stand up about Charrette? I definitely

1125
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: think her decide sickness is something that will be very

1126
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: helpful on this. I mean everyone has seen the commercial

1127
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: with the line that separates a boy from man, and

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01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: that is that's her to a t. And so she's

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01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna need a man to come up, show up, and

1130
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: show out. So she's gonna read through the BS. Yes, yeah, merceities?

1131
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: What about you? Yeah? I think her confidence. She is

1132
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: such a confident woman. She knows exactly what she wants,

1133
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: she needs, and because of that, I think that she'll

1134
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: be able to navigate her way through this journey in

1135
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: such a beautiful way. And yeah, people, people are gonna

1136
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: love her because she's she's just real. She's real tale,

1137
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: so that will show through. And now she won't have

1138
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: to be waiting for the dates or having anyone interrupt

1139
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: for her dates. She'll just be able to pick who

1140
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: she wants and go in those damn dates. Exactly. I'm

1141
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: so excited for her. She's gonna kill it. It's gonna

1142
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: be so exciting. We're thrilled. Okay, so we're gonna get

1143
01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: into this next part, but before that, I need to

1144
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: ask all three of you. The beaches of Paradise are waiting.

1145
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: If given the opportunity, would you walk those sands? Brooklyn? Absolutely?

1146
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah I would. I would walk the sands of

1147
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: Paradise for sure. Yes, I love it. Alie, what about you?

1148
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: Definitely would. The no ac thing kind of makes me

1149
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous. I'm a bit hot nights, so

1150
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: there better be a man on that Beach's worth it,

1151
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: because just bring a fan pack your fan everywhere you go. Mercedes,

1152
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: what about you? Yes? One thousand percent. Yes, these girls

1153
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: saw me on the beaches or I guess Brooklyn, you

1154
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: had your one on one so you weren't there. We

1155
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: heard about it. I me on a beach with the

1156
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: sun out of Margarita. I'm thriving, so that is that

1157
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: is my element and I would one thousand per second. Well, look,

1158
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: we just did half the Paradise calcium for the franchise. Yeah, okay,

1159
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: you guys, this was so fun having all review on.

1160
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of hard to balance having

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01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: three people to interview, but I think we did a

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: good job and I just love chatting with people. But

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01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: before we let you go, we always do our resource section,

1164
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: which is basically just sharing important resources with our listeners

1165
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: to stay in the know and informed on everything. And

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01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: so Brooklyn, you were just unhappy how or a couple

1167
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, So we won't have you do this part.

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: But Mercedes and Ali, we'll have you both share something.

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01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: I'll start, just make it easy. Then we'll have Michelle go,

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: and then the two women you can share yours. So

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01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: mine for this week is a little bit different. So basically,

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01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 1: my little niece who's three and a half, is coming

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01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: to stay with me this week, and she loves reading.

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01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: She loves books, and so I was trying to think

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01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: of ones that I could bring into her life that

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01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: are a bit more important educational informative, informative, especially just

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: in terms of race. She lives in a very, very

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01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: very small town in Wisconsin. So I'm going to share

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01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: a couple children's books around race that I think people

1180
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: can very easily go out and buying merd to their children.

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01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: The first one is called Is It Starts with Me?

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: It's written by Bernice King, who's actually Martin Luther King

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01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: Junior's daughter. Basically, it's a it's a book that encourages words, thoughts, actions,

1184
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: all through love. And then two other ones that I

1185
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: would recommend are the ABC's of Black History that is

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: by Rio Cortes, and then one is called Our Children

1187
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: Can Soore by Michelle Cook. So those are my resources. Again,

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01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: you can buy them on Amazon, you can buy them,

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01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure at Barnes and Noble anywhere online. So those

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: are mine for the week. And Michelle, you are up lovely.

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01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: Gotta love the children's books with being the teacher, oh yea.

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01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: But to my resource, it's called All the Little Things.

1193
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: It's actually just like a little short film. It's four minutes.

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 1: It focuses purely on microaggressions, and that was something that

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: was really big piece about this women tell all of

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01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: not a lot of people not understanding what they are.

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01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: Does a really good job of putting somebody in that

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 1: first person seat of actually seeing what it would be

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: like to go out through the day as someone there was,

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01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: like person of color. And so that's called all the

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01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: little Things. There's a few places you can watch it,

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: but the biggest place that I saw is YouTube. I'll

1203
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: posted on my highlights as well. But uh yeah, gonna

1204
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: make it efficient, gonna make it quick. It's not this

1205
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: massive book that you're reading. It's four minutes and yeah

1206
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: it give it a shout out, give it a check

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: it out. All right, thank you, Michelle. We're saying this

1208
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: is what about you. Do you have a resource you

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: can share? Yes. Red Table Talk with Jenna Picka Smith

1210
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: one of my favorite podcasts. It's three Generations, so it's

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: her mom, herself, and then her daughter and they have

1212
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: very raw, honest conversations about racism and everything that's going

1213
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: on in the world right now. And I love it

1214
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: because it is just so honest and they talk about real, real,

1215
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: real issues, and yeah, it's a great source that I

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01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: love to listen to. And it's on Facebook. I think

1217
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: they have a few on Spotify, but it's mostly primarily

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Thank you and Alia, what about you? Yes,

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01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I have a person and she has a collection of

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: ways that you can use her resources. But it's Morgan

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: Nichols Harper. It's her name, and she has a podcast

1222
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: called The Morgan Nichols Harper Show as well as tons

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01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: of art that she does. She's an artist, is also autistic,

1224
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: and she didn't know that she was autistic until she

1225
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: was an adult. And so a lot of her artwork

1226
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: and poems like illustrate dealing with mental health, which is

1227
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: just something that is not spoken about in the African

1228
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: American community as much as it should be. So it's

1229
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: a great resource of art and poetry speaks to you.

1230
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: It's just gonna get your emotions out and read it.

1231
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: So I love all of her books, but especially her

1232
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: podcast wonderful. We'll check it out. Thank thank you, and

1233
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: again to all of our listeners. We will share these

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01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 1: on the Happy Hour' Intagram highlights real and again on

1235
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: our personal pages too, so you can very easily check

1236
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: them out. Well, now is the fun part before we

1237
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: let you all go. And Brooklyn, I know you just

1238
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: said this a few weeks ago, but we always have.

1239
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: Everyone shared their rose and their thorn, which is basically

1240
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: a highlight your favorite moment, whether it was during filming

1241
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: or now kind of living in this chapter where everything

1242
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: it has been aired, so highlight and then low light.

1243
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: Your thorn is like a messy, awkward, maybe cringeworthy moment,

1244
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: something that you wish maybe didn't happen. So Brooklyn, let's

1245
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: start with you for that one. Okay, So my thorn

1246
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: is still the fact that I fist bumped this poor

1247
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 1: man after he told me I was a good kisser.

1248
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: That was so much like why did I do that?

1249
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, Honestly, I've learned to love it at

1250
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 1: this point. I'm like, Okay, it's actually kind of funny,

1251
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: super awkward to think about and watch back button none

1252
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: the less. Well that's actually better than you having to

1253
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: turn around and be like, so are you yeah right?

1254
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: So there's just a because that yeah, man, my rose.

1255
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: There are so many great moments, um. I you know,

1256
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 1: looking back, I truly think just the friendships I made,

1257
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't find the love I was looking forward, sack,

1258
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: but I found love with all these women in support.

1259
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: So that's my Rose. Oh, I love that Allie would

1260
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: vote for you. My Thorn is definitely telling National TV

1261
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 1: that I was going to miss the way this man's

1262
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: lips tasted. It was fringe to watch. My friends will

1263
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: not let me live it down, I especially as I'm

1264
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: watching it. I'm now watching for the first time him

1265
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,600
Speaker 1: kissed me, then kissed the next girl, then kissed the

1266
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: next girl. And I'm like, I think there was like

1267
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: some on some funny meme that was just like, girl,

1268
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: that's you're not tasting his lips. You're tasting like the

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01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: other girls he's macing on. And I'm like, Jesus no. Um.

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Speaker 1: So definitely my Thorn, Wooks, my bad Um and my

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01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: Rose is definitely the girls. I mean we are thickest

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01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: thieves and so um I'm glad I got them. Tell

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01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: them constantly, Please tell your cousins to reach out to me. Um,

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01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: you know they could be my person. So justin case

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01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: and we never know, open rebuilt that roster. Girls. I love.

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: I love the ladies. I love that. Okay, we're savings.

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01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: One about you, your Rose and Thorn. Oh, okay, so

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01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: my Thorn, I'm from Iowa. I'm a little country so

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: in the bloopers. I did a farmer's blow because a

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: bug went up my nose and I forgot. I forgot

1281
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: I did that ship and then I saw it. I'm like, oh,

1282
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: into the camera. Amazing. Good job for Sadie. It's relatable.

1283
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: We've all been there. Yeah, and it's funny like and

1284
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: I actually do it, so it's fine. Um, but I

1285
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: would say my Rose like the other two girls. Uh,

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01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 1: the girls are amazing. The producers that I met are amazing. Really,

1287
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: the whole experience was amazing. But I left knowing that

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01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: I had best friends for the rest of my life,

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01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: which is something that I will never take for granted.

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01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: These girls are truly just amazing, and we went through

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01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: something that only like we get and understand except for're

1292
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously pasking testants as well, but it's

1293
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: far from our season. We just have that that thing,

1294
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 1: and so we just get each other. And I'm very,

1295
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: very very thankful for them. I love that. Yeah, it

1296
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: seems like this group of women has been even more

1297
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: close than anything we've ever seen, which is which I

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: absolutely love. Um. Also, okay, you gave us your thorn.

1299
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: You can't forget the fact of your amazing torque skills

1300
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: in the mansion. Did see those two, which I was

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01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: going to call out at the beginning, But if I

1302
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: ever meet you in person, can you please teach me? Yes?

1303
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,639
Speaker 1: I will. I got you girl, Thank you? Yeah, oh

1304
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: my god, no that I was watching it and I

1305
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 1: think it was Katie who was like falling off the

1306
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: couch like how are you doing that? So good? That

1307
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: was like such a fun night. That was just like

1308
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: one of those nights where it was like a down

1309
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: and I forget who it was with some producers they're like,

1310
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: you can twurk, girl, Like, let's go teach a class.

1311
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, okay, let's go it. Give a girl

1312
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: who can do it? All people, all right, you're three. Well,

1313
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: it has been so much fun having you on and

1314
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: we've absolutely loved seeing each and every one of you

1315
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: on the season. Hopefully we'll be seeing more of you.

1316
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm maybe on charity season. I'm not sure, but fingers

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: crossed um. But we're always here if you need advice,

1318
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: if you need anything, Michelle and I are Our doors

1319
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: are always open on happy hours, so please reach out

1320
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: if you need anything. Well, thank you so much to

1321
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: meet you all. Yeah you too. That was so much fun.

1322
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed those three women having them on to

1323
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: give their take on the tell All and to just

1324
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: pump charity up. So I'm sure we'll see more of

1325
01:11:55,240 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 1: them in the next who knows, the next Paradise season hopefully.

1326
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: So thank you for those three women joining us, and

1327
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: of course thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy

1328
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 1: Hour listeners. Don't forget new episodes of The Boucher air

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,880
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01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,840
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Speaker 1: day on Hulu. And also don't forget Gasting is now

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,679
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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:26,600
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Speaker 1: website to nominate or apply at Batcher Nation dot com

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