WEBVTT - How Cinnamon Works 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.560 Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:13.280 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.599 Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry So it's Stuff you 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:24.480 should Know the never ending year. Man, I am sleepy today. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.880 I do a little whiskey last night. Oh that will 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.640 make you sleepy. Really nice bourbon. Ok I can't remember 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.400 the name of it, but you know, one of those 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.040 small batches. It's I wish I could because the bourbon 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:39.600 and not right. I'd love to plug it. And it 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.200 was bourbon. It was delicious, Okay, cool, so very smooth. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.320 Let me let you in on a little, little little 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.360 known fact you've told me, but tell everyone else about. Yeah, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:50.000 it's a big deal, man. I think we need to 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.680 spread the word. So you know, all those little small 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.800 batch distilleries that make rye, and they all have these 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.840 crazy back stories and all that stuff all almost across 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:06.959 the board lies most of the small batch rye and 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:11.000 sold in the United States by craft distilleries is made 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.959 in a single factory in Indiana. Josh is using a 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.640 lot of air quotes then, including on Indiana, which I 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.480 didn't quite get. And then they sell it to these 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.600 people who like put a new label on it, mark 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.039 the price whatever they want, even though it's the same 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:29.280 thing you're drinking, whether it's this craft distillery, that Crestility, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.960 it's literally the same rye. Put a folksy backstory on 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.920 and then you're a chump for buying it. That's that's 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.960 not truth, bourbon, it's just this rye. But a good 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.240 giveaway is is the ry you're drinking five year old 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.319 rye and the distillery has only been around since last year. 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.520 Probably a pretty good bet that they bought and rebottled it. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.920 And that is a true Josh fact. Not like the 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.960 cigars are supposed to be inhaled when that's yes, that's 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.600 it's tobacco. What do you think you do with tobacco? 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.920 Cigar writers right in? Yeah, man, I will forever stand 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:11.440 behind You're supposed to inhale cigars. All right, all right? 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.560 I mean you're just puffing your mouthful of smoke for 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.640 no reason. Why Why would you do that? What's the 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.600 point of that? I don't know? Man. Well, okay, so 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.720 not only can you do you have to write in 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.480 and say yes, you're you're just supposed to puff on 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.520 a cigar, not inhale. You have to explain them what 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.760 the point of a cigar is. You know, you can 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:34.639 read up on this. It's pretty easy. That's fine. Okay. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.200 I don't need to breathe them. I know that. I'm right. Okay, okay, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.720 So you sit in your flooded yard and inhale cigars 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.639 all day long. It's right. We should just have an 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:49.200 episode where we do this and just shoot the breeze. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.000 I think this is called arguing, not shooting the breeze. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.880 Shooting the breeze is talking about football scores and the 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.880 weather and all that stuff. We could argue about football scores. 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.840 There is a did the Falcon win or did they lose? Dude? 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.799 They lost to the Browns. Yeah, they played the Browns, 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:06.480 but it was a close gaming for a while, right. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.519 It was a heartbreaker. The terrible, terrible, terrible team. I 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.720 hate them. See, that's shooting the breeze. Right, So you 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.560 mentioned cigars, which actually provides a segway. So let's walk 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.799 it back to it. Okay, there's actually if you think 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.160 of cinnamon, which is what we're talking about today. Yeah, 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.880 one of our commodity podcasts. Yeah, which is the original 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.440 name for the house stuff works TV show. Yeah, little known, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:34.360 little known fact. Um. But if you think cinnamon, you 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:35.960 think of like, you know, you go up to the 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.560 grocery store and you pick up like that metal cannam 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.120 ac cormicks and you shake it and it makes that 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.920 nice hollow tinny sounds. Yeah, okay or yeah. I guess 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.200 you can think of ground cinnamon too. I forgot about 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.880 that stuff. But when you think cinnamon sticks, that's what 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.120 you think of, right, And you pop the top open 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.320 and you shake a couple out and you look at 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.280 them and it's like a it looks like a little stick, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.960 and if you look really closely, like curled, right, and 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.080 then like you um, put it back in the can 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.960 and put it back on the store shelves and wipe 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:10.160 your hands and go walk away. But what you would 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:12.680 probably be surprised, I find, would be if you dumped 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.320 one of those out into your hand and it looked 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.880 kind of like a cigar, like rather than hollow and curled. 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.640 When you're looking down the barrel, it looks stuffed like 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.120 a cigar. But if you did see that, what you 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.720 would have just come across is clon cinnamon, also and 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:32.000 appropriately known as true cinnamon. Yeah, also known as tree 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:36.360 bark yeah, which to me is the fact of the podcast. 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:41.200 I had no idea that cinnamon was tree bark. Yeah, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.279 But think about it now that you know that, When 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.480 you think about what cinnamon sticks look like, it makes sense. 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.760 It looks like curl up tree bark, which is exactly 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.640 what it is. Man. We could quit now and people 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.800 have gotten their zero dollars worth. I know, I know, 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.719 it's like lightning in their headphones. But we won't because 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.000 we're gonna tell you more than you ever needed to 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.880 know about cinnamon. Obviously. The stick form is how you 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.560 can buy it. Also, buy the powdered form and sprinkle 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:13.080 it on some bread with some butter and sugar. Yes, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.360 salmon toast delicious. If you have an orchid that you've 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.359 ever over watered um, you want to take some scissors 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.000 and trim off any rotted roots and then dab them 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:27.240 in cinnamon and it staves off any infection. I just 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.640 recently brought an orchid back using cinnamon as an anti 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.400 microbial or fungal. I guess Emily has made an all 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:41.520 natural flea uh preventative, preventive, preventative preventative for our dogs. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.560 It's Uh, it's got cinnamon oil, essential oil, and some 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:50.440 other I think eucalyptus and maybe camp for And then 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.320 you know something that's all distilled or not distill but 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:57.120 mixed with olive oil and water and uh it's like 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.120 all natural. We splayed on a spread on a little 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.880 bandana and tying around next. Nice. Um. It's also a 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:09.040 proven mosquito repelling and killer of mosquito larva and natural pesticide. Right. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:15.080 Plus it's a dynamite name for a pet. Cinnamon, it's 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.800 pretty much got at all. That's pretty good. Again, we 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:22.640 could stop here, but we won't. Uh. So cinnamon the 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:28.120 commodity spice. It has a pretty long history actually, Um, 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:32.599 I read that it first pops up in writing in 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:39.320 b C C b C b C. Yeah, that's a 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:43.760 long time ago, in a Chinese text about botanical medicines. Yeah, 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:46.880 that makes sense because of all the things we just 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.920 mentioned you can do with it. Yeah, and then Moses 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.000 was messing around with it in the Old Testament. Yeah, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.520 he used it in his anointing oil, his uh Moses 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.920 brand anointing oil right that he got rich off of. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:03.880 And uh, Egyptians supposedly used it for embalming. For so, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.720 I looked that up because it stica was kind of 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.960 like in the weird and um, I think they used 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.200 it to mask the smell of embalming during embalmment. It 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.320 makes a little more sense. Well, that's used in embalming, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.640 I guess just as but not as the agent embalming agent, right, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:22.160 but it may have been part of the embalming agent. Okay, Well, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.760 they definitely used it to when they would burn, uh 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:28.080 with funeral pires when they had burned bodies, they would 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.520 use cinnamon because it's so aromatic and pungent and dead 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:35.520 burning bodies are stinky, right, But it was also extraordinarily expensive. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:42.520 Apparently Pliny mentioned that, um at is there any other uh? 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.120 He mentioned that at some point the cost of cinnamon 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.160 a pound, the equivalent of a pound of cinnamon would 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:53.040 have been ten months wages for the average Roman. Um 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.560 So they I mean they used it, but they used 0:07:55.600 --> 0:08:00.360 it fairly sparingly, which is to say, um Nero burn 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:05.160 Euro who didn't fiddle while Rome burned? By the way, No, no, uh, 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:08.640 he burned apparently like a year's supply worth when on 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.560 his wife's funeral. Higher just basically basically show off, I 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.680 would guess. Yeah, I was thinking that while I was 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.600 reading this about how I thought it was kind of 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.760 funny how spices used to be so like the trade 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.679 and so expensive, and then when I go to the store, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.560 it was like, spices are still kind of expensive some 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:28.720 of them. Yeah, ten months wages worth it. No, but 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.240 it's not a lot of slavery associated with it. No. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.760 But if you're paying like I guess it's because of 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:35.599 the size of the thing you're paying, like sometimes like 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:37.760 six dollars for a little no, I know what you mean, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.160 a little tiny jar of it, or what's the like 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.040 compared to affron Man super expensive it is, although Trader 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.640 Joe's has some for a reasonable price. Yeah, they have 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.120 a little uh a little mini fistful, a baby's fistful. 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.839 I think it's the the unit of measurement on the 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:59.199 bottle for like six bucks, that's super cheaper. And I 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.000 think one of the since spices are still kind of pricey, 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.240 as many of them, including cinnamon, are still uh not mechanized, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.199 are still very labor intensive the harvest. Well, the reason 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.320 cinnamon came down in price because even even still even 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.200 I think there was one of the Roman emperors decreed 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.160 he set maximum prices for the whole Roman Empire, and 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.360 at the time that basically meant for the whole world, right, um. 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.439 And he set the price at about half or a 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.679 third of what playing he said was the peak basic 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:37.240 right for well, yes, um and uh. Even still it 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.679 was extraordinarily high, like you had to be one of 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:44.080 the well the aristocracy basically to afford sentiment. But then 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.559 it came down in the late I believe the late 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.800 eighteenth century, by the time the English got into the game. Um. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.160 And we'll talk a little more about this right after this. 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:56.640 And this is not a message price, so everybody chill out. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.520 But um, it came down in price because original there's 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:04.040 just the true clon cinnamon. And then people said, well, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.400 there's this other cinnamon in Indonesia and Vietnam. Vietnam hasn't 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.480 been established as a country yet, but there's still people 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.280 living here and have been for thousands of years, and 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.600 they got their own kind of sentiment. Uh. And then 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.160 there's another kind of sentiment in China. And all these 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.120 are types of cashia, but it's so close to cinnamon 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:24.720 and even more pungent that everybody in Europe saying, well, 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.480 accept this as a substitute. So all prices came down 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.240 because the supply became more widespread. Gotcha. So that brings 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.559 us to a very good point. There are two types 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.200 of cinnamon. The clon what you mentioned in the casha, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:42.400 which you mentioned. The salon is Southeast Asian native, but 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.079 it is not the kind that you're going to find 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.559 in the grocery store. Correct. Uh. The ceylon, and I'm 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.280 really high in grocery store you'd find it, but mostly 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.280 you I haven't found it because I don't shop at 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.960 those places. Well you, I mean, you could probably find 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.480 it at whole Foods. But if you're gonna spend the 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.839 money for ceylon cinnamon, you're probably gonna want to buy 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.480 it in stick for him because there's a lot of 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:10.920 unscrupulous spice dealers out there, and like they could powder 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.000 anything and just tell you it is, but you wouldn't 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.800 know the difference. This the street corner spice dealers, their 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.319 knockoff nutmegs, the ones who like opened the side of 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.160 their trench, like what do you want? What do you want? 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.600 I got baby spitsch to saffron right here, I've got 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.400 salon cinnamon. I can take care of you. Um, the 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:32.400 cashia is cheaper and it's stronger an odor and flavor. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.480 And uh, those aren't the only types of cina. Apparently 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.360 there are more than a hundred wild types of cinnamon 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:40.760 trees all over the world. Yeah, and there's not all 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:42.360 over the world, but in many parts of the world. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.080 So there's and there's true cinnamon, which is in Sri Lanka, 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:50.280 and there's Indonesian casha. Then there's also Vietnamese casha, in 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:55.360 Chinese casha, um, and all of those are commercially available. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.640 If you're here in the United States or in Canada, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.360 you're probably eating um cash right. And when you say 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.800 true cinnamon, that's just not you being snooty. It's called 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:09.640 true cinnamon. No, no, no, thank you for pointing that. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.839 And then if you're in Mexico and Europe you're probably 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.880 eating clon. Those are the most popular varieties. Oh yeah, nice. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.040 So I mentioned earlier on one of what I think 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.800 is the fact of the podcast is that it's tree 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.599 bark and how you cultivate it. It's pretty interesting and 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:31.760 we will detail that right after this message break. So 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:36.760 if you want to get edible cinnamon, it's pretty neat 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.960 you basically cut the tree back to a stump, cover 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.320 it with dirt, and wait a year, and that makes 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.680 it grow like a bush and these shoots are gonna 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.080 pop out and it's gonna if if you've ever seen 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:54.040 these things online, it looks like it starts to curl already, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.079 like off the branch. I mean, it looks like cinnamon 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.200 just waiting to happen, because it is. And they strip 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.160 off that bark and set it out to dry in 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.040 the sun, and then that's what it curls up like, um, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:12.160 what's the white tree with the real paper like birch. Yeah, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.480 it sort of looks like that, not like pine bark. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.439 Is it a birch? I know exactly what you're talking about. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:24.280 I think it is a birch. Birch tree, Yeah, very pretty. Uh. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.680 And then once you have it dried out, you're gonna 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.520 cut it up into your sticks and from there you're 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.920 gonna package it according to what kind it is and 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.439 like how good it is, basically how strong it is 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.120 and um, so that's casha for um ceylon true cinnamon. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.680 It's actually the inner bark. So you peel the outer 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:45.960 bark off and just like throw it away or light 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:47.599 a fire with it or something like that. Then you 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.439 go after the inner bark. And for um millennia there 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.800 was actually one cast in Sri Lanka whose job it 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.800 was was to harvest cinnamon. No one else could do 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.800 it either you were too low on the total polar 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.280 too high on the totem pole. And when the Portuguese 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.520 came along, because the spice trade had been cut off 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:08.640 by the Turks, and about the Portuguese came along, found 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.920 the source of cinnamon, which is a huge thing chuck 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.000 before everybody just basically thought they fished it out of 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.080 the nile. People thought there were cinnamon birds that made 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.920 cinnamon sticks, but it was because the traders along the 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.840 silk route of Silk Road where um, they'd make up 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.760 these stories and people would believe it. So finally the 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:34.840 Portuguese find out to keep them from finding out, yes, yes, 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:39.720 and to justify the ridiculously high prices of cinnamon, like that, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.760 well we have to go harvest these sticks from a 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.720 cinnamon bird's nest and we can get killed, right. So um, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.560 the Portuguese come along and they're like, well, we can 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.680 point to at least one inefficiency. How about we enslave 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.080 all of you and put you all the work rather 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:58.280 than just this one cast of your society to harvest 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.200 cinnamon and that up cinnamon product. And but what's funny 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.920 is it took the Dutch to come along in and 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:08.280 out the Portuguese and then they themselves can continue to 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:13.080 enslave the Sri lankans um. They they thought maybe we 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.720 could cultivate these trees elsewhere, like nobody had thought told 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.120 to take these trees and plant them elsewhere and then 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:24.280 expand the supply like that. They just figured, all, we'll 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.640 just let mother nature do it. They're like Suparu drivers. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.600 They're just leaving it up to mother nature rather than 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.560 cultivating the stuff. It took hundreds of hundreds of years. Now. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.920 I remember there was that stupid commercial where the guy 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.720 just let his super get dirty when he was like 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.240 mudding and going camping and hiking and all that stuff. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.240 And then he's like, and I don't wash my car. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.360 I just leave it up to the universe. And then 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.680 it starts raining and like gets all the dirt and 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:55.520 dust off of his car. That's that's great. Yes, you know, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.800 Elvis used to shoot the TV when Robert Goolay came on, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.200 when he was really mad. He'd shoot like a toaster, 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.080 oven or the dishwasher or whatever. But if he was 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.520 watching TV and Robert Gooley came on, he would shoot 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.440 his TV. Did you see that thing I posted on 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.560 her Facebook page of the day about his drug intake 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:16.760 at the end. He was prescribed almost nine thousand pills 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.280 or injectables in the last three months before he died. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.760 That's a lot like that would just take up most 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:23.760 of your time in jesting all of those. Yeah. I 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.560 think I calculated it was something like a thirty thirty 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.080 five pills a day or something or injectables. It's a lot. 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.440 But my grandmother still says, God rest her soul. You know, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.880 Elvis's doctors killed him. Yeah, And I didn't have the 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.000 heart to tell her that Elvis was a big fat junkie. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.000 You know. She was from Memphis, and they like still 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:44.960 were like, oh no, his doctors they just had him 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.240 going every which way. Oh yeah, yeah, No, I was 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.320 really love taking those pills. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.120 it's sort of like the Michael Jackson thing. Yeah, he 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:59.120 liked his milk. Alright, So back to cinnamon. Oh yeah. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.240 They have a grading system called the Freelankan grading system, 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.040 and that divides it into these quills into sizes, the Alba, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.480 which is point two inches or less in diameter, the Continental, 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:16.720 which is point six Mexican almost point eight inches, and 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:22.400 then Zahambug, which is one point three inches around. That's 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.720 that's some serious quill. It's like a cigar. Yeah, and 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.920 some of these things they use like circular sauce to 0:17:28.960 --> 0:17:34.280 cut these in production sometimes. Really Yeah, that's pretty impressive. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.760 That's super impressive. Um, the the clon is sold and 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.600 quill form and it's uh gonna have that crumbling texture. 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:45.000 It's really easy to grind up in the Cashia is 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.439 the ground cinnamon that you're going to find in your 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.080 grocery store, but it's too hard to grind your Yeah, 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:53.440 it's the entirely true. I ground them up the other day, 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.480 Jean Recipe. I tried probably not powdery though, was it 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.600 still pretty chunky? It was? Yeah, I mean got it, 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.920 broke it down pretty well. After reading this, I was like, well, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.160 I explains why I didn't get at all. But I'm 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.800 glad I didn't mess up my coffee grinder. Oh yeah, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:12.679 you know, you really can't believe me. What what'd you make? Uh, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.280 all of them preserved lemon ten It was pretty good. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.600 It was hotter than I expected. Um, and I think 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.680 they should have mentioned that in the rusty, like this 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:25.040 is very hot because the preserved lemons I used were 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.719 hot in and of themselves, and so the whole thing 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.120 was really hot. So you mean and I are eating 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:33.680 and our noses are running. Is so good? But I 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.720 can't feel my face anymore? Yeah, but it was. It 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:38.760 was good. That was used to shoot his cook when 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:42.240 she made things too hot. Right, that's not true. He'd 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.119 also inject preserved lemons. He probably did. I know he 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:50.800 injected peanut butter and banana fluff. Yeah. Um, so well 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:53.040 that brings just cooking with slemons what you were just 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.480 talking about. Um, it's a lot a lot of time. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.840 It's used in baking here in the States or the 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.760 quote West unquote right, like as a baking like sugary 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:06.760 desserts and stuff like that, or maybe in a drink 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.280 like a toddy but like anything at Starbucks. Yeah, that's true. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.520 They've got that shaker cinnamon out for a reason. Use it. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.680 But like you were saying, uh, in the East, like 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:20.960 an Eastern dish, like that. It's used a lot to 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.360 like flavor meat and and curries and stuff. Yeah, which 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.880 is kind of a in the idea that the West 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.200 only uses it to sweeten or for desserts or that 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.159 kind of thing is um relatively new because during the 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:36.480 Middle Ages in Europe, uh, the the elite again, we 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:42.240 use cinnamon especially to um cover up preserved meat, and 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.200 it maybe even to preserve meat. But they used it 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.560 on like meat and savory dishes back back when. Then 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:50.720 at some point it made the transition to dessert. I 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:53.440 get it. It's nice on an apple pie. Yeah. And 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.040 uh sportast like I mentioned, and horg chatta that's good 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:04.640 stuff with cinnamon horche out of regular right, Jerry thumbs up. Uh. 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.439 If you buy centiment in the store and you want 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.199 to preserve it, you store it in a glass air 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.600 tight container would be the best deal. It's gonna keep 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.600 it nice and fresh and flavorful. Uh. And it can 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.399 stay fresh those sticks for about a year if you 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.560 store it right, which is awesome. If it's ground, it's 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.120 uh last about half of that that long. Yeah, it's 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.960 I've had centiment in my cupboard for a long time. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:31.440 Ancient sticks. It's like that in the bay leaves. You know. 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.879 The thing is is the difference I think between like 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.720 fresh bay leaves and and dry bay leaves or is significant. 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.160 I know. But why did they sell you thirty bay 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.600 leaves when you need to for any given dish? I know, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:44.960 I don't know. I always want to like post on 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.760 social media like I'm cooking with bay leaves, so please 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.119 come by and get some bay leaves because they're just 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.119 gonna end up in the trash right now. I know, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.400 anytime I've ever gone to your house, you've always given 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.120 me bai leaves. Stay all Bailey kind of what you're 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.800 now for. Um. I put a little cinnamon in the 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.840 in our chili recipe too. Yeah. I think the Cincinnati 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:09.560 chili is famous for that. Oh yeahs and curries. It's 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:14.560 really good in curries too, uh and um, just basically 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.480 any Indian dish or Bangladeshi dish. Yeah, A little goes 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.240 a long way though, by the way, like just a 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.119 pinch or so in some of these dishes, you can 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.440 really taste the flavor. If you overdo it, you're you're 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.600 gonna be tasting nothing but cinnamon, right if you use casha. 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:32.280 That's another big distinction. I think you already said it, 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.160 but it's worth touching upon again. Salon cinnamon is known 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:40.280 to be much subtler and less pungent than cautious cinnamon. Um, 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.720 and it's it's kind of more it has. It offers 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.800 a more subtle flavor. So um, you actually might want 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.440 to use casha for a dish where it's gonna it 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.399 could fade into the background and then you just ceylon 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.600 for like a t Yeah, you know, because it'll melt 0:21:56.680 --> 0:22:00.320 right into your your teacup there on it. Plus, it 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.320 may or may not aid in digestion, which is a 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:06.040 pretty great segue to this next part, the health benefits 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.040 the cinnamon, which we'll talk about all right after this. 0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:22.000 All right, Josh, health benefits. Um. Now, a lot of 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.119 this in the article says some believe may or may not. 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:28.399 But didn't you find some pretty good hard evidence of 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.240 some of the stuff. There's been a lot of peer 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.480 reviewed studies done on cinnamon that have turned up some 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:36.200 pretty awesome things about it. Yeah, so let's talk about them. 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:40.440 Antioxidants for one, fighting free radicals that damage cells. Yeah, 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:43.240 we should do an episode on that. There's a whole 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:48.360