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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencants and camera judge.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we are here to cheese in a pod.

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Speaker 1: It is supposed to be myself and Drew from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: And last minute she called in an audible she called

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Speaker 1: in six So who did I text at four am? Kyle?

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Kyle Richards And I know that you

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Speaker 1: guys will not believe it, but we have not prepped

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Speaker 1: any of this today. They're they're not gonna believe it,

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Speaker 1: but I We're going in cold. I'm in pain, unhinged,

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Speaker 1: have zero memory, and have pretty much not left my

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Speaker 1: unlike you, which is really leading into I think a

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Speaker 1: great pod exactly exactly. Um, well, yeah, do people realize

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Speaker 1: how early we wake up? It's really something's wrong with us.

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Speaker 1: We are up so early in the morning discussing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fact we are very invested in things that maybe

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Speaker 1: don't matter to most people, but we will go so

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Speaker 1: deep At four seven a I'm like, I'm like, did

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Speaker 1: you see this? But did you see? And so that's

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Speaker 1: how it continues on. But we have a little groups

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Speaker 1: of people that wake up very early too. So we

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Speaker 1: it's like, but I do. I don't apologize. I haven't

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Speaker 1: even been wordling the last couple of days. I haven't

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Speaker 1: slacking off on that word it's really annoying. It's because

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Speaker 1: I was doing well and ever since, you guys have

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Speaker 1: been winning when I lost my confidence. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to brag, but I did get you a water and

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Speaker 1: thank you. That's fine, Okay, okay, So we're gonna just

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Speaker 1: get right into it. Uh. Normally what we do is

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Speaker 1: we fully do a breakdown and of the episode, but

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Speaker 1: since you lived it, we're gonna start out with questions

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Speaker 1: and then we'll do a little breakdown. And also, I

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Speaker 1: have not seen these questions. That is my hand to god,

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Speaker 1: I've not seen it. I know you're going to be frightened,

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Speaker 1: but the first one's an easy one. I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's Were you surprised at all at the sofa seating

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Speaker 1: set up at the reunion? No? No, I wasn't, not

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Speaker 1: you surprised to see durat self Tanner on the couch afterwards?

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was she was just the only

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Speaker 1: I will never forget got the self Tanner Alli released

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Speaker 1: at Vanderpump Sofa and they still was like adan like

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Speaker 1: a big thing about it. That's been happening for years.

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Speaker 1: I always feel bad about that. Um. So yeah is

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Speaker 1: the only one called out. But I did text Dreet

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Speaker 1: this morning and I said, UM, speak now forever hold

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Speaker 1: your piece on your self Tanner, because I need to

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Speaker 1: understand why there was She probably didn't know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. I don't think you've been paying attention to it.

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Speaker 1: But what she did know what we were talking about

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Speaker 1: was there's been a post this morning that's happened now

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Speaker 1: on three different accounts. Did you see all I know

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Speaker 1: about this? What is it? Um? Lisa, Arenna, Diana and

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Speaker 1: Erica And they keep posting peaky blind What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Because I've never seen the show? Well, dere says, I'm

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Speaker 1: obsessed with the show and I know it very well.

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Speaker 1: Peaky Blinders is a group that you don't want to

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Speaker 1: guess this is like, you don't mess with these three? Okay. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: which leads me to the next thing, which I may

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Speaker 1: have mentioned on the pod that I even hate to

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Speaker 1: but that the Foxes have not been corresponding since Bravo con.

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Speaker 1: Who are you still talking to you? I'm not you know,

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Speaker 1: that's a loaded question these days. Yeah, you know you're

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Speaker 1: Things are just different right now. Um, they've been away

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Speaker 1: I don't think I saw both reunions because we Kyle

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Speaker 1: things that I had seen a thousand times already and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why would I even look at this? Um?

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Speaker 1: But there's so many questions about why I didn't say

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Speaker 1: that's fine, that's fine. I don't worry you, guys. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get all the USA. Um people have been tweeting

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Speaker 1: Denise and Camille have made their rounds so far. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean I still follow her on Instagram. I just

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Speaker 1: you know, she'll like make fun of Lisavanner Pump and

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Speaker 1: goes back and forth like so. But um, when we're together.

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Speaker 1: When we're together, we're usually getting along. I'm just having fun. Uh,

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Speaker 1: We're back and laugh about you know, you know, other people,

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Speaker 1: By the way, I got nervous when she did it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't like the making fun

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Speaker 1: when they doubled down on Lisa vander Pump like, I

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Speaker 1: you know, I know that Erica was mad because Vanda

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Speaker 1: Pumpa made that comment about the Scratch and Sniff book.

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Speaker 1: That's why she you know, she probably sent her scratch

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Speaker 1: little out of control. Erica obviously right, But I can

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00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: tell you when we got the episode, you know, dry

424
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: and I spoke and she's like, Kyle, I'm I'm mortified,

425
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: like that was terrible. Like when we're sitting there talking

426
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: about it, I said, that's how I feel. I didn't

427
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: see it. Why the hell was I talking about and

428
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I hadn't even seen And you know, my my husband,

429
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he always makes it dumb. I always always

430
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: the worst, the worst jokes, and he doesn't like think

431
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: about it and later he's like, oh my god. So

432
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: I talked about this at UM, like in between breaks

433
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 1: with Carcel at the reunion, because this is such a

434
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: typical thing that happened. So Um, I got the episode

435
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 1: when I was in London doing press for the the show,

436
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 1: and I was so upset I was mortified because you know,

437
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 1: obviously being a mom comes first to me more than anything.

438
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: And then to see the way, you know, Erica spoke

439
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: to Jackson how it came out. I was talking about it. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

440
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: So I addressed it in an interview that I was

441
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: doing in the morning in London, and I said, I

442
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: really want to talk to Carsel, but it was literally

443
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: one am at the time in l A, so I

444
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: couldn't call Carseller or anything. So she heard about this

445
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: interview and so you know, well, then why didn't you

446
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: text me? You just you know you you said you

447
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: wanted to reach out to me, you didn't. I said, no,

448
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: that interview was well in the morning. I had just

449
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: seen it. That's why I couldn't call you or anything.

450
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: So I explained that to her, and you know, I

451
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: just hope she knew that was genuine, because my god,

452
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: did you hear a story and you're like, oh my god,

453
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: can you you know when you're not supposed to laugh

454
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: like in church and it's a bad thing, like, oh

455
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: my god, I kept it that happened, But then when

456
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: you actually see it, yea terrible And then we get

457
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: on to the point of Erica starts making analogies with

458
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: the plane. Oh my god, oh any other analogy, with

459
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: any other analogy. I don't know what that is. I

460
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: don't understand when she when she said that, I was like,

461
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: why that analogy? Now, honestly, pick from there's thousands of analogies.

462
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: Let's pick from any other and normally she kind of

463
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: The funny thing is that in the moment, I think

464
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: I was so distracted thinking about the stuff with my sister.

465
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: I didn't even catch that in the moment. Watching it back,

466
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: and when I saw the episode, I was like, what

467
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: I think. I was like just kind of checked out

468
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: for a lot of to me. But you are seeing

469
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: a lot of Sutton and Erica having more of like

470
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 1: a relationship. You can see Sutton says something along the

471
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: line she just unfollowed. Hold on who, Sutton just unfollowed who?

472
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: And who? Oh yeah, because there heard that. Oh yeah,

473
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: there's these two. Um look at me. This is I mean,

474
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: I already got myself in trouble talking about this on

475
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: the show this season. Let's see Sutton. Okay, let's see

476
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: does she follow them? Okay, Okay, I don't have you

477
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: can check. I don't have a good A. Wow, you

478
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: guys text us and let us know. But um, or

479
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: send me a little message right here, please, Tara. But

480
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: also something on here was that Renna was posting. Now

481
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: of course it's gone, but Renault was posting certain things,

482
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: and Sutton said, like enough, I'm done. Oh yeah yeah,

483
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: So that might have been when the I'm following started

484
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: to I think that's when it started. Um, but I

485
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: I almost feel like that could be more based towards

486
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: the Diana stuff with Garcel. I have no idea because

487
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: I forgot what it was, but I just saw that. Um,

488
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: but I can ask her tomorrow. We're supposed to have

489
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: lunch tomorrow. Oh you and Sutton, Oh, Sutton does not

490
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: follow Erica? Does she follow Renna? And what about Garcel

491
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: and disc ourself follow me? Uh? Sutton does not follow Renna?

492
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: Did girl still ever do your podcast? No? So she

493
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: came late to she came way to Bravo con and

494
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: she that was supposedly why I shouldn't come, But no,

495
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: who did do it was? Um sunt oh so Sunner

496
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: and sounds like you know I do lack you we

497
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: just have issues with communication. I'm like, you're right, we do. Um, yes,

498
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: follows Kyle, garcel does Garcela follows me In a shocking

499
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: turn of event, who does Okay, Son doesn't follow Erica RIGHTA.

500
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: So there's a theme here. Okay, now we're getting down.

501
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: We're getting down to more more pressing things, which is

502
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: why the repetition sometimes on Beverly Hill. So remember the

503
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: scene between Diana and Sutton when um, they say the

504
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: same thing but it was funny. Yeah, but it happened

505
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: again here with Erica and the earrings, like, yeah, we're

506
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: on appeal for legal reasons. Well that was her way

507
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: of saying, I'm not answering your question, We're a deil

508
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: for legal reasons, for legal reasons. And then she pulls

509
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: up her boat and then Andy's like chasing Eric on

510
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: a hamster, where he's like, yes, we cover that. She's

511
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: like and we're on appeal for legal reasons. I'm like,

512
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: what is Yeah, she's yeah, that was pretty funny, and

513
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: he was like okay, okay um, and then he goes,

514
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: would anybody you know keep want to keep these rings?

515
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: And everyone's like no, definitely not. Dreads like double down,

516
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: never know as if anyone in the right mind would

517
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: be like me, maybe I would keep the earrings. I

518
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean it's I mean, no, that was

519
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody there wanted to keep those areas.

520
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna take a little break and we're

521
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna come back and we're going to discuss the bad

522
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: stuff is coming. Now we've been laughing, but now we're

523
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: going to get to the harder stuff because your sister arrives.

524
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: Good times Okay, So we're back, and it's immediately for me,

525
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: at least, I'm trying to be You know, your sister

526
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: came up to me at Bravo Con. She did not

527
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: do the podcast, but she immediately came up to me

528
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: and put her hand on my shoulder and said, I'm

529
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: so sorry for what you're going through with your cancer stuff.

530
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: You know, like I just want to know let you

531
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: know that I'm thinking about you. And I said, listen,

532
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: I would love for you to come on the pod

533
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: and talk to me because I know that things between

534
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: you and one of my very best friends aren't and

535
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that my number one goal,

536
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: even though you know I talked crap for a living,

537
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: is that you guys are okay. Because I love I

538
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: love Kyle so much, and she was about ready to

539
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: say yes, and then her publicists looked at me and said, no,

540
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: she needs to eat a burger. And then she sat

541
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: right next to where what so then she sat right

542
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: next to where my podcast table was an aide. Oh

543
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: my god. So but she was very kind to me

544
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: in the momentum. But as your friend, it was really

545
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: hard to watch this episode, you know, because so let's

546
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: talk about from the very beginning when she walks in

547
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: and we get into the conversation about Chemo sabi, and

548
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: something that I immediately got irritated by was that she

549
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: assumed that you were going to set something up for her,

550
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: and I didn't hear you say anything back, Like, how

551
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: would I have known I was setting something up for

552
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: your tequila? Like what? Okay, well, I actually not. Everything

553
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: gets used in the reunion, as you know. But let

554
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: me just clarify. So, my my sister um had said

555
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: to me right before asking because she was bringing the

556
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: tequila on camera throughout the season, but I didn't. She

557
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: never mentioned the tequila to me until I didn't really know.

558
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I wasn't. You're filming, there's cameras, you're doing stuff, You're

559
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: not you know sometimes I see people walking with a

560
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: champagne bottle or a candle. You're not really a host

561
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: this skip whatever. I wasn't really thinking about it. And

562
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: then before Aspen, she said, you know, we invested in

563
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: this tequila company. Do you care if I bring it

564
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: to Aspen? And I said, not at all. Send it

565
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: to my house and I'll like, you know, we'll make

566
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: drinks of that, I'll put it out whatever. And that's

567
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: exactly what we did. We have a million bottles at

568
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: my house in Aspen. And so then you know, that

569
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: was it. So when she said at the you know,

570
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I had planned the Chemosabi shopping event months in advance.

571
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: I've been trying to do this Aspen trip with production

572
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: for a long time. You know we booked Chemosabi that

573
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: private room. Yeah yeah, yeah. Uh So after you know,

574
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: we had the tequila at my house. That was that.

575
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: So at the Chemosabi event, I didn't even know the

576
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: tequila was there. I didn't even know it was on

577
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 1: the bar. I knew nothing. So when she said at

578
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the reunion, I thought it was going to be an

579
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: event for me my tequila, I was like, so there

580
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: was there was no nothing, zero zero zilt nothing nothing.

581
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: So I I literally was speechless because I was like,

582
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: why would you think the shopping event that was, you know,

583
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: that would be a thing for your tequila? Like it

584
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense. And by the way, if she

585
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: had said to me, I'm gonna, you know, can we

586
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: do something with my tequila at the event, I would

587
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: have been happy to do that. Of course he was

588
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: happy to do that, but it was never said to me.

589
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was there. And then, um, you

590
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: know in the scene she says Kyle did nothing to

591
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: stop Brenna. If you look back at that scene, if

592
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: you guys have recorded this and you can go back,

593
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: when Renna is ordering the tequila, I'm literally I didn't

594
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: even hear her. I was tying my dog's lesia so

595
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: she wouldn't run around Kimo Sabi. I was like, bending down.

596
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of this. I didn't even hear

597
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: or know that. Yeah, so I was like when I

598
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: saw that, you know, I was like, how does she

599
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: expect me to to know this? Or and then once

600
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: even if she had said to me, by the way,

601
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: she just went, you know what am I supposed to do?

602
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: Go over and say, uh, you don't do that. Take

603
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: that back, like I didn't know what to do. Although

604
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: also it's all over the internet. But that eight when

605
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: it was brought in through like a rush, sure it

606
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: was not the case. That for sure is not the case.

607
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: I don't you know. Um yeah, that was not brought

608
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: in to make a problem. It was you know, we

609
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: go there a lot, as you know, and they have

610
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: lots of tequila, is there? Um I think and by

611
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: the way, a lot of people like that tequila, that

612
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Cathy's tequila. I did a test and believe me, I'm

613
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: not I went in blindfolded and that was my favorite tequila. Yeah,

614
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: it's amazing. It's a really good tequila. Um. But I

615
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: think what what I was confused by in that moment

616
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: when you're watching and seen she is mad at Rehnna.

617
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: She and even brings it up. She's mocking Renna ordering

618
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: the eight eight tequila. But then at the reunion it

619
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: becomes your fault. Yeah, that's what I was upset about

620
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: because that's a pattern. So you feel like you're consistent,

621
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: like I mean, I feel like I can do no right. Yeah,

622
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: it is the problem, and um, you know, there's a

623
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: lot of history there and it's really hard, you know.

624
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: And sometimes I'm quiet because it's easier for me in

625
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: my life not to address these things, because I don't

626
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: want to make things more complicated for me my family.

627
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Um So, if you wonder why sometimes I'm not speaking up,

628
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: it's because what I'm going to say or what I

629
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: could say, will make things more complicated for me. So

630
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: I'd rather just uh, basically, put my hands behind my

631
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: back and take it on the chin, on the chin,

632
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: and deal with it because it's not worth it for me,

633
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Which is why Is that the same reason why you

634
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: said to Rna, I don't want to know all the

635
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: details about what she said. I knew enough and I

636
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: didn't want to know anymore. I knew there was more

637
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to know anymore. And Kathy had said,

638
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, I said really bad things and I should

639
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: not have and I just didn't want to. I didn't

640
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: want to know anymore. I didn't, you know, And women,

641
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: I never settle the things at the reunion. She didn't say.

642
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: Um so she did protect Cathy and some capacity. She

643
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: did not say all the things of the reunion. I'm

644
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like Erica right now. She didn't not saying,

645
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: you guys, you like I'm going to say the same thing. Um,

646
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: so yeah she um, she did not say all all

647
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: the things uh and um yeah, so you know that.

648
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: I just I didn't understand why I was getting blamed

649
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: for that, because I mean, she was clearly upset with

650
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Marenna at the event at Chimo Sabi, but then it

651
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: became about me, and I just it was just so

652
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: crazy to me. I was the hostess, say, and then

653
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: also she became upset with you at the club, even

654
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: though that also wasn't you hear the story and you

655
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: understand that is something that if you're used to getting

656
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: a certain level of attention and you don't get it,

657
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: then that may set somebody off. And I've seen that

658
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: happen millions of times with with women in Beverly Hills

659
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: that everybody knows who they are, and so you can

660
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: see that happening. But then all of a sudden, coming

661
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: back to you again, your problem. Well once again, it

662
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: was the way she spoke to me, you know, um,

663
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: and everyone saw that, but nobody spoke up at the reunion.

664
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: Why did nobody speak up about that? I don't know,

665
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't I think I don't want to deal with it.

666
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: But everyone saw well Diana said, you know, and I

667
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: think her interview, she said, you know certain things, but um,

668
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: what people don't realize is that, you know, we had,

669
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, given our coats to the coach check, and

670
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: we had a security person with us who took all

671
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: the tickets to our coach check to her for our coats.

672
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: And then he left to go get the rest of

673
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: people that we had invited to join us, which was

674
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: like a block away. So he had the non housewives

675
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: non housewives, okay, so he had the tickets to our

676
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: coats in his pocket. He left, he said, I'm going

677
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: to get your guests. I'll be back. He was going

678
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: to walk down the block walk him into the club

679
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: because it's a private club. Um, and we hadn't even sat.

680
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Diana just gave a credit card. And then Kathy came up.

681
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: And you know, I said, when I said the reunion,

682
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: how how she spoke to me and what she said

683
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: about we're leaving right now, And you know, I think

684
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: when you're the youngest to like sometimes i'm spoken to,

685
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I'm still like a little girl, like a baby, and um,

686
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: it just was very disrespectful and and I take it

687
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: so scared to talk because I feel like that's the headline,

688
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: like my sister is disrespectful or if I say she

689
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: was being mean hathy, So I get scared even speak.

690
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: This is why I never do these things that because

691
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: you're Maya, but I mean iriend I am. But that's

692
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: what happened. And I was like, you can't talk to

693
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: me like that. You're not going to talk to me

694
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: like that, scream me like this in front of my

695
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: friends and think I'm going to drop everything I have

696
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: guests coming because you're not getting your way, you know.

697
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: And that was It was plain and simple, and I

698
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: think this also happens a lot in bigger families and

699
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: and it's not talked about as I mean, I'll just

700
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: talk to you about my family situation, you know. Um

701
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: it was maybe two Christmases ago. I'm on a group

702
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: chat with all my siblings. There's five of us, and

703
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: they'll kind of always ask me to be the the

704
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: ringleader of the ones that will like to talk to

705
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: my dad about something. And I said something and it

706
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: piste my dad off me detly, like I could almost

707
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: cry just talking about right now, Like immediately he reamed

708
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: me out so badly and told me that he was

709
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: canceling Christmas on all of the siblings because of me,

710
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: And none of the siblings said, like, actually, we all

711
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: called Teddy. We all came to this agreement together. They

712
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: left hanging. They left me hanging. And you know, it

713
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: is a common thing to have these dynamics inside of

714
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: your families, especially once your parents, Like I can't even

715
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: imagine what your parents have passed away. We didn't have

716
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: these problems in my mom. Yeah, like that, it's a difference,

717
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: and and not to be able to to resolve them.

718
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: And and I mean, I remember I called you crying.

719
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do I do? Do I write a letter?

720
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: I feel like all my siblings are mad at me now.

721
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: And when you feel like you're in that place, you

722
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: have two options. You neither choose the way that I

723
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: feel like maybe Erica handles thing, which is through anger

724
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: and through showing like zero empathy, or the way that

725
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: we saw Kyle handle it at the reunion, which is

726
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: through tears and through sadness and through like well the

727
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: problem is okay. So a couple of things, like like

728
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: I should say a lot of people have said, like

729
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: the main thing I hear is, why didn't you defend

730
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: your sister when you are hurt by somebody? Like you know,

731
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: it's not always so cut and dry. You know, I'm

732
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: not subscribing to the idea that you stick with family

733
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: no matter what, because sometimes when you're treated really poorly,

734
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: you have to take a step back, regardless of regardless

735
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: of whether you know it's blood or not. And you know, um,

736
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: you have to have boundaries. And if you don't know

737
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: the whole story, you can't know why I wasn't jumping

738
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: in and defending, you know, not defending. So you know,

739
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people messaged me saying, I understand

740
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: this dynamic. I understand it sometimes with family, even even

741
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: though it's your blood. You know, um, you don't. It's

742
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: not no matter what blood, you get to chick me

743
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: however you want, because we're blood. And I'm gonna have

744
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: to take that because we're blood. I'm gonna stick by

745
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: you no matter what, because we're blood. You know, I

746
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: if you're mistreated or mistreated, and um, and I you

747
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: know that's how I feel. And I was just at

748
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: that point, you know, really really upset, and you know,

749
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, hearing the things that was hearing and obviously

750
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: defensive of you know, my family might meaning my husband

751
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: and my children, and you know I didn't. I didn't

752
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: want to, but I just didn't want to. I was like,

753
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: why would I when I'm hearing this and she's saying

754
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: I I did, And you know, I was happy that

755
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: she apologized. I accepted it. You know, I'll be it

756
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: was always on camera. I was like, okay, Um, I

757
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: think some people thought I asked her on cameracause people

758
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: like why, because she kept saying you wanted on camera.

759
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know she wanted to. Okay, I mean, yeah,

760
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: you have to clear that up. Yeah, I mean, but

761
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: by the way, another thing quickly is that you know,

762
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: Kathy said at the reunion, you made me apologize Torenna,

763
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 1: And then they flashed back to me saying, she's coming

764
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: if you want to, and she said, I want to.

765
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I want to apologize to her. Um, So I was like,

766
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: there again. Then I was blame for her apologizing to

767
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: Renna because it didn't go the way she wanted. But

768
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: if it had gone the way she wanted, you know,

769
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: but I think something else we have to point out,

770
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: which yes, you are in a tricky situation because you

771
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: are the only housewife that has a sibling on and

772
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: has had multiple siblings on this show, which yes, you

773
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: can get a lot of heap for because things haven't

774
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: always gone right, but you're not forcing your siblings to

775
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: join the show. You have to know that when going

776
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: on a reality television show, you have zero Whoever goes

777
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: on has zero control of what is going to play.

778
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: By the way, just to be clear too, when I,

779
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, suggested my sister Kim for the Housewives, I

780
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: was already signed on to do the show, I had

781
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: only good intentions, you know. Um, I wanted her to

782
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: have you know, working I wanted I thought I was

783
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna help her, you know, stand the right track. I

784
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: thought it'd be great for us and be fun, you know.

785
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I had high hopes. And by the way,

786
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: we did have a lot of fun too, and him

787
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: and I are are great right now. Um. And then

788
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: with Kathy too, you know, um, I wanted her on

789
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: the show to have fun with her. And you know,

790
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: a lot of people said to me, do you think

791
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: that's a good idea, you know, because of the history,

792
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: and you know, and I said, you know, a really

793
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: good place and I really don't see us going down

794
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: that path again. Um, I only had good intentions. I

795
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: only want her to come on to have fun with

796
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: me and to laugh and to bond. Um. I had

797
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: no idea what's gonna happen, and Aspen I, I couldn't

798
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: have predicted that. The problem with reality television is the

799
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: truth always comes out one way or the other regardless.

800
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: If I wanted to go on a show and pretend

801
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: that I was always easy going, it would be impossible

802
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: that that's not who I am. But see, it's also

803
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: not just happened there, it's what's happened since then. Because

804
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: I could have got the apology, I could have been

805
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: good and done with. But then it starts people taking

806
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: to social media and clips and then um and it's like, oh, okay,

807
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: but you know, like people getting upset didn't jump in

808
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: and you know say something like Renna, how dare you

809
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, call out my sister or whatever. But you know,

810
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: I have blood family like liking mean tweets about me. Yeah,

811
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean she liking tweets saying that I should be

812
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: fired of the show I've been on for twelve years.

813
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: I brought my sister and to have fun with her.

814
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is this? Why is there this

815
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: double standard? So you know that's not I don't think

816
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: people are I mean. And Kathy also liked the tweet,

817
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: and I hate I'm sorry, but like she liked the tweet.

818
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: Why would Kyle let Renna do this? Understand one thing,

819
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: she has not let them do it. She is behind

820
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: them doing it. It's how she operated all along. People

821
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: still are saying it. Renna attempts to destroy her acquaintances.

822
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: Kyle does the same to her own family and friends.

823
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: She will do anything for money and social status, whether

824
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: it's laughing at fourteen year old black boy getting really

825
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: abused and cheering it on with her husband, or destroying

826
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: her sister Kim at her most vulnerable. There is nothing

827
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: too low for contratards. And this is liked by Kathy.

828
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: This is where I will have my issues and continue

829
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: to speak about this because I don't care how upset

830
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: I am at one of my family members. I would

831
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: never do. I would never do. So I'm going to

832
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: tell you about that. When I first saw that, I said,

833
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I thought she tweeted that, and I said someone must

834
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: have packed her. She would never do that. She would

835
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: never do that. Um, I sent it to her and

836
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: she said I liked that by accident, just like she

837
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: didn't actually get Lisa Reyna's text. But the ma Andy

838
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: pulled up with the reunion, Well, I'm just telling you

839
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: she said she did. She said she had liked it

840
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: by accident. Um. You know even Kim will tell you.

841
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: You know that being on the Housewives helped her. And

842
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: you know I'm not going to go back in time.

843
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: You cannot understand family dynamics. You can think you do

844
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: because you've watched the show. You have no idea what

845
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: happens behind closed doors. You have no idea the history.

846
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: I am not about to come and explain the history

847
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: to everybody to make my life more complicated. So if

848
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: I have to have people hate me for thinking a

849
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: certain thing, um, I'll take it. I'd rather have people

850
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: that don't know me think I'm an asshole to deal

851
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: with more problems with my own blood. By speaking up. Hey,

852
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know I will have my husband to

853
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: say why didn't you speak up and say this? Because

854
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: it will make it worse. It could be one month

855
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: of not talking or ten years. So what's better for me? Yeah, Well,

856
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: stepping away from Kathy and looking at the I mean,

857
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: how many other women for seven other women, Yeah, that

858
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: were on those couches when they were seeing you struggling.

859
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: When they were seeing you, nobody was really saying anything.

860
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: I think that comes with that is when um and

861
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: this is where this is what I have an issue

862
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: with because I've been on the show so long and

863
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: I see things that maybe other people don't see. But

864
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: when someone on the show is liked, people don't like

865
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: to go up against them. So I mean used to

866
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: see that a lot with Lisa vander Pump or you know,

867
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: they're like, you know people do with me of a

868
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: with emia, Like they don't want to think, they don't

869
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: want to fight with me because it's going to create

870
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: an issue or something. Not always I think that all

871
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: of them were like, well, if we say Kathy did

872
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: this or was you know, not nice to Kyle, then

873
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: people are gonna hate us because they like her and

874
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: people are mad at Kyle right now. So I saw,

875
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: I see through all that. So it's just pandering through Twitter.

876
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: So for you, it's easier to just remove yourself from

877
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: seeing any I don't look at Twitter. I I don't

878
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: follow uh hashtag r H O B H or my name.

879
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't have a Google alert. I am right now

880
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: protecting my mental health. And for people to think they

881
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: know about me or they know the situation and they're

882
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: mad at me. Hey, I mean, like my husband always says,

883
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: and my family says, you know, we know the truth,

884
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: and you know who you are, and and and I'm

885
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: just gonna say this for Kyle and you guys can

886
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: always People won't even get mad that we're close because

887
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: they'll say, like, you know, Kyle's you know friends are teddy,

888
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: that nat or whatever it is that they want to

889
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: call me from week to week. But I want to

890
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: tell you that when things go down with me or

891
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: any of our other friends so are either on or

892
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: off the show, you are the first person that's ever there.

893
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: So I don't like when people put out there that

894
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: you are not always leading with your heart and the

895
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: most kind and the most like the fact that you know,

896
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: we talked about how what a hard asked my dad is,

897
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: but the fact that he called me, you know, after

898
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: my surgery and says, you know how much it means

899
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: to me that you have Kyle there with you tonight,

900
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: that she's helping you, That she's doing that, Like you

901
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: have a family away from your family, and that is

902
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: so important and so I just that is one of

903
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: those things. And you're a family that we go up

904
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: to your house and your relationship with your kids and

905
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: your girls and the way that you guys bring people

906
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: into your home and make them feel loved. Not everyone

907
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: can do that and that's not an act. Well thank you, um,

908
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean it's weird because on the show,

909
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: like you know, of course you do know us after

910
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: all these years, but you know also what they let

911
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: you see. And I remember I was asked at Brovocn,

912
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: like what is something we don't know about like three?

913
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: And you know you see pieces of us, But what

914
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: people don't know about like three is you know she's

915
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: really sweet girl. You know if you're sick, she will

916
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: little bit like I'll bring you soup. You know. You

917
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: know she's that kind of a person. And you I mean,

918
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: like you're the most genuine, down to earth I mean,

919
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: like raw, Like that's why we bonded immediately when you

920
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: first came on the show. Um, this zero bullshit or pretense.

921
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: I think on the show you held back a lot.

922
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm a different person now. I feel that's the thing.

923
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: It's like I used to say, like, you don't know

924
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: Teddy the way I know Teddy, because you started telling me,

925
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: don't be rev ted be like be yourself. You came

926
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: in like I have a mission. I have to say this,

927
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: I have to do this because I have to make

928
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: a point about and you were very like instead of

929
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: just like it was new to you too, it was new.

930
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: It was a completely different realm of women like that.

931
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: You know all my girlfriends that aren't on the show.

932
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: It's a different thing. And when you go in from

933
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: being it was like a culture shock for me, it

934
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: is and like you know, I was forever twenty one

935
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: and everybody else's Birkin's like there was like it was

936
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: just a different phase of my life. And I'm so

937
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: happy that I've been able to grow and learn. Well.

938
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: I had dinner the other night with um Chris Collin,

939
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: who was our showrunning for all those years, and we

940
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: got so much and Alex Baskin, our executive producer, and

941
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: you know ore the man behind the magic is people

942
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 1: like to say about Alex Baskin, And we were lappy

943
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: about season one. How I mean, I was like that too.

944
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean the first season, I was nervous. I remember

945
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: getting so stressed because Lisa Vanna Pump can't tease me.

946
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: I had an open house and this is before the

947
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: show was like famous, and Lisa Vandam came over and

948
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: the dogs were jumping on all the people coming to

949
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: open house. I put my dogs in the laundry room,

950
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: so she used to She used to joke and say,

951
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to say you lock your dogs up in

952
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the laundro room. I was so worried about that, and

953
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: she would make jokes. I was like, quit doing that,

954
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm gonna get hate about my dog.

955
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: And I mean, that was the stuff I worried about. Then.

956
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Can you remember the joy I would have about that?

957
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: But I was, you know, you're new to this. I

958
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what if someone says their grandmother

959
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: died and it cuts you laughing, but you're laughing about

960
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: something else, so you're so tight, and then you realize

961
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: I just had to let go and let let you

962
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: know myself so and realize that not everything is perfect.

963
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: Like I I even think back to my you know,

964
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: we won't get into it now, but like even think

965
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: back to my relationship with my husband my first season,

966
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 1: and things were really freaking hard, and I never talked

967
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: about it with you guys because I didn't feel comfortable.

968
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: But like I wish now, like, wow, why didn't I

969
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: open up and show people that you're not alone and

970
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: no matter what you're going through, no matter if you're

971
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: going to postpartum, no matter if you're having issues in

972
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: your marriage and what it is, And that's really what

973
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: as now someone who watches the show, that's what I

974
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: want to get back to watching. I want to get

975
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: back to watching the real ship, the fun stuff, like

976
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: all the wild things, Like I want to see the

977
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: good and the bad and the ugly from everybody, but

978
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: less like it feels so less bad and ugly and

979
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: just fun. Yeah, we do a lot like the bad

980
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: and ugly, like the petty stuff, you know, like it

981
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: doesn't need to get to this, no please, it's so

982
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: it's really stressful, but I mean I really don't. I mean, honestly,

983
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: people always like why are you still there? Why is it?

984
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: But I mean we do have fun, but it is

985
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: very You're you're the clue that holds everybody together. Um,

986
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: and I know we're out of time. But the final

987
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: question it's a fan question. It's after all the tequila drama.

988
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: Do you think it was shady that Andy did the

989
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: final toast with a vodka soda carcass out? It's so funny.

990
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: I didn't. That's another thing I didn't realize until I

991
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: saw it on television because I was already thinking, get

992
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: me out of her, get me out of her, get

993
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: me out of here. That is pretty funny. I have

994
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: to say, I'm now looking back and you know, like

995
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: I said, you know, my sister's tequila is great. And

996
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: I do want to end this by saying I love

997
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: my family no matter what. Um my sister's you know,

998
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: my sister's kids and their kids, like I said, and um,

999
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: I just I just hope that that doesn't get lost

1000
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: in all this. So I want, I just want to

1001
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: finish on that note that you know, even if I

1002
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: can get upset or be hurt. Um, I love my family.

1003
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: I know I know you do, and I know how

1004
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: important your relationship is with them. And I also appreciate

1005
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: our friendship and how much you've given to my family,

1006
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: our life, and for showing up to this pod last minute.

1007
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: And you guys, thank you so much for tuning in

1008
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: to another two teas in a pod with myself, Teddy

1009
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: Mella Camp and Kyle Richards. We will be back on

1010
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: Monday to discuss all things Potomac and Salt Lake City.

1011
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Bye bye,