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Speaker 3: and comment. Man, how long have they been showing the

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Speaker 3: Hip Hop Awards on BET now?

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Speaker 1: It's been a while. Ship, you know, let me ask.

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Speaker 3: You this so E e T is owned by Viacom,

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Speaker 3: the same people that own them TV and a bunch

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Speaker 3: of other different stuff. You've been in the hip hop

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Speaker 3: game a long time. A when have you ever known

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Speaker 3: White America to do stuff just for coach fal impact?

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Speaker 3: They always be a stuff as it made money, right

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Speaker 3: right right? They didn't. They don't do things for cultural

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Speaker 3: impact and cultural relevance. Necessarily, you have to have a

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Speaker 3: monetary value. Man, they cut out, but it ain't gonna

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Speaker 3: be no more hip hop Awards though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw they cut that out. Your dudes who

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Speaker 2: running everything said, oh no, we're cutting all that hip

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Speaker 2: hop rap shit out because I don't know, is it

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Speaker 2: is it an image that they want to get rid

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Speaker 2: of as far as hip hop music is it?

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Speaker 1: You know, are they not feeling that it's appropriate enough?

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Speaker 2: I've seen, uh, I see fact Joe and them talking about.

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Speaker 1: The financial status of it.

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Speaker 2: Every year the budgets for the hip Hop show gets decreased.

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Speaker 1: Mhmm.

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Speaker 2: But you know MTV they about to have day Video

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Speaker 2: Music Awards show, you know, and they got the big

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Speaker 2: moon man and fires and acrobatics and they shows and

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Speaker 2: you know, rocket ships and all of that.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, is it just has always made way more

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Speaker 3: money than all those other genres?

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Speaker 2: Well is it even about the money now or is

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Speaker 2: it about the image of what they feel hip hop

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Speaker 2: is bringing to viacom or universe? Whoever owns this ship

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Speaker 2: you're getting with? Am I feeling with all this?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: With with you know, and I'm knowing how significant hip

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Speaker 2: hop is. You know, when hip hop started and you

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Speaker 2: know the term of crap and you know the those

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Speaker 2: golden years of rap, But are these the golden years

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Speaker 2: of rap?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Are these those type of years to where motherfuckers is

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Speaker 2: feeling like what shit hip hop is putting on this

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Speaker 2: show is costing me more money than it's making me money.

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Speaker 1: Right, m.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you from what I do know. We're

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Speaker 3: in a different time right now, right to where you

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Speaker 3: know the phrase all money ain't good money.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 3: We're in the streaming era right now where everything is

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Speaker 3: about streaming from the stuff we watch through our music. Right.

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Speaker 3: It's about going on the app and streaming something and

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Speaker 3: watching as much as that content as you want. They

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Speaker 3: don't even like they still have some shows that drop weekly, right,

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Speaker 3: But for the most part, most shows if they can start,

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Speaker 3: like let's say it's fifteen episodes in the season, you

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Speaker 3: can go in there and watch all fifteen of them

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Speaker 3: episodes over the weekend if you choose to, right, then

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Speaker 3: they go drop another fifteen. Right. If this stuff is

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Speaker 3: not getting those streams, they're not gonna renew it. Right

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Speaker 3: right now, we're in an air like for a company

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Speaker 3: like to before example, to Be is what you would

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Speaker 3: call they're a fast channel, which stands for free advertise

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Speaker 3: ad support to TV. Right, and they got a bunch

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Speaker 3: of content on that right, you don't make them You

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Speaker 3: make all your money off of ads, ain't It's similar

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Speaker 3: to YouTube for a content creator anywhere, right, almost similar

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Speaker 3: to YouTube. Right, So you going here and get they

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Speaker 3: just pay way more money. Right, So you're going fifteen

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Speaker 3: million views, Let's say fifteen million views is gonna bring you.

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Speaker 3: Let's say it brings you type to think we two

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: What the advertisers are saying now is this, we don't

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Speaker 3: care how many streams or views that content get. That

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Speaker 3: black content they call it urban content, right, we don't

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Speaker 3: care how many streams it gets. We don't want to

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Speaker 3: have our brands represented on there. So you've got guys

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Speaker 3: before they used to have really successful movies on to

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Speaker 3: become millionaires. That's over with broke people have for pushed

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Speaker 3: the line now dogs where they don't care how much

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Speaker 3: some money something is making, how many views is getting.

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Speaker 3: We do not want our stuff on the N word

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Speaker 3: material nor And that's whether it makes sense to us

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Speaker 3: and not. But these people are definitely playing the long

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Speaker 3: game with these advertisers. They know that at the end

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Speaker 3: of the y, they the majority of people who drink

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Speaker 3: coca cola and pepsi in this country man are black

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Speaker 3: and Mexican. Right, Really, the Hispanic people with coke, right

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Speaker 3: and black people man coke don't want to be associated

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Speaker 3: with all that that heathenism and all that heathen shit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, it's unfortunate. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe if if you know, if if the I don't, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to disrespect them. It's who're making their

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Speaker 2: money right now? Who rapping and who whatever whatever. But

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's it's the same as you know,

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Speaker 2: back when you know hip hop was was was fresh

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Speaker 2: and brand new and it was turning the key and

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Speaker 2: you had all kinds of different content whatever, And it's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's been you know, it's always

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Speaker 2: been a shine of negativity on hip hop so to speak,

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Speaker 2: but you know, they took it to the point where

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Speaker 2: it started making money. You know what I'm saying, not

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Speaker 2: that it's not generating. Is it generating like that? Is

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Speaker 2: it that to the point to where the representative of

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Speaker 2: hip hop right now they don't want to touch those

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Speaker 2: representatives of hip hop so to speak? You get me,

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Speaker 2: Look at the shows, look at the performances, look at

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Speaker 2: the you know, has anything been like spectacular?

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, man, everybody is talking about now, like

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something that could be deemed controversial, I

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Speaker 3: want you to listen to what I'm saying. You go

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Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. Who would you say the biggest

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Speaker 3: storios in hip hop right now? M hmm probably Kendrick.

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course you're gonna say to Kendricks and

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Speaker 2: the Drakes, and I get that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, but think about this, right, and I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: I think kat That is an incredible artist, right, I

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Speaker 3: think Kat That is an incredible artist. Now, had those

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Speaker 3: golden era of music to where when you was putting

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Speaker 3: out you know, like y'all you had the whole CMW

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Speaker 3: had Nahs doing his thing, you had all these It

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Speaker 3: was a lot of talent in the game and it

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Speaker 3: wasn't easy back then. It just wasn't as easy to

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Speaker 3: get on. Do you think those guys would have still

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course, I mean we've always had standouts,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're always to me being you know, niggas

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Speaker 2: You know my era, that was a Cube. My era,

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Speaker 2: to me, that was a scarface. You know, there was

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Speaker 2: some niggas who were just untouchable. So you always have

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Speaker 2: those talents that come along that you know are significantly

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Speaker 2: greater you know, and and than other niggas.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, listen to what I'm saying though, Bro, now

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Speaker 3: hear me out. You just mentioned some cold motherfucker's scarface Cube,

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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you this. See these kids today, man,

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Speaker 3: they getting the privilege of seeing the Cube. That's the

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Speaker 3: old Shank Jackson. Really just the ol' Shake Jackson now right,

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Speaker 3: a man in his fifties that's doing stuff he should

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Speaker 3: be for it. Man, He's doing things that a man

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Speaker 3: hell of a businessman. He got his basketball league, the

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Speaker 3: three on three league. Cube was an incredible businessman, has

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Speaker 3: a production company gonna put out some really good movies, right,

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Speaker 3: So they're seeing that version of him. They not seeing

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Speaker 3: a version that we saw man with once upon a

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Speaker 3: time in the Project show. They're not seeing that guy

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Speaker 3: right at one time doog Cbe was the Kendrick on

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Speaker 3: think that these guys could have stood out in that

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Speaker 2: You know, these are different times back then, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know what a lot of us went through. As

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: What they've been, what they be talking like they're talking now,

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Speaker 1: They just like like that niggative rap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that in my personal opinion, And it

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Speaker 3: I think Doc could have stood out back and I

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Speaker 3: He's gonna come to be the number one dude. You

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Speaker 3: just don't know, because it's a different era, right, like

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Speaker 3: maintains his gettleness. Hip hop is all about the streets, man,

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Speaker 3: It always has been. Only did this started kind of

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Speaker 3: getting away from the streets. That's when we kind of start.

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Speaker 3: That was marked the rise of our destruction kind of

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Speaker 3: it's corporate. Right now, they've got gatekeepers over it. It's

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Speaker 3: hop right now. I think hip hop is just doing

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Speaker 3: back to being underground. It's go go back to who

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Speaker 3: go Who got dope music? And who's really doing this

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Speaker 3: because they love the culture because there wasn't no money

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Speaker 3: now unless you Drake or Kendrick. Catch Drake and Kendrick

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: But Tom told me something the other day. I called Top.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my boy dude, dog Man. I talked

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Speaker 3: called Top the other day and I had to ask

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Speaker 3: him a real question because I got an artist that

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about messing with right, And I asked him,

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Speaker 3: I said, man, do you think in this day and age, man,

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Speaker 3: it's worth messing with the artists right now and making

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Speaker 3: the investment and not just time, but you had to

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Speaker 3: spend some month. You have to go through some headaches.

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Speaker 3: You have to show this, you know, you had to

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Speaker 3: pretty much when you're talking about getting a kid that's

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Speaker 3: anywhere from eighteen to twenty one years old. Bro, you

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Speaker 3: are going to have to do some training.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they gonna expect shit, especially in this rap game.

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Speaker 2: If you're gonna tell them you're gonna fuck with them.

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Speaker 1: I ain't.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's just like I said, it's just the patience.

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Speaker 1: And the thing with hip hop, now you have to

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Speaker 3: There's no money in this, no more like And when

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Speaker 2: And then they took away the product and then found

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Speaker 1: About it.

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Speaker 2: They found a way to really break the average you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, you know that that real. You know how

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Speaker 2: You feel me now, They didn't cut away from niggas

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Speaker 1: We're gonna stop. Just we gonna selle, nigga. Those are

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Speaker 2: Listen THEI go press up his own ship, nigga. Some

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Speaker 2: And like you said, no, I could play this motherfucker

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Speaker 3: And so they it not to cut you off, bro,

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Speaker 3: but the cash from our area, the cash from the nineties,

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Speaker 3: to get paid unless you go back and renegotiate that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now exactly.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, dog like this, right, I know you

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Speaker 3: think about it like this. Spice one says something real

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Speaker 3: interesting one day, Bro, I think his first two albums,

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Speaker 3: didn't they?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I went platinum.

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Speaker 3: Spice said he never saw a royalty off that man,

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: Spice was one of those like I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: But.

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Speaker 2: I controlled a lot of my shit, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, niggas wasn't no dungies and shit. You know,

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Speaker 1: You feel me and.

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Speaker 2: Me coming from poverty, my mom's and then you know

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Speaker 1: You get me.

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Speaker 2: Because usually the nigga you're getting ready to fuck with,

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Speaker 1: So it's unfortunately, but that's what happens. And niggas have

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Speaker 2: To be able to claim their music back because those

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Speaker 2: are the type of deals niggas entered to not being

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Speaker 3: You know, the average dude designed it deal back in

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Speaker 3: they if you went to eighteen, you're really not supposed

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Speaker 2: Mm hm, no, it's not shit. I think I was

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Speaker 1: Us do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know the thing is, obviously it turned

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Speaker 3: out to be worth it for you. You know, you

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Speaker 3: look up. You know, thirty seven years later, you're still

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm fortunate enough that I can go pull

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Speaker 2: a you know, a couple of shows a month, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I can put out a project, not to

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Speaker 2: look to become a new millionaire or nothing like that,

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Speaker 2: but I can put out a project, you know, for

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Speaker 2: or a fan appreciation and if I make a few

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Speaker 2: because you're able to generate a few dollars and maybe

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Speaker 2: a couple of new business ventures from you know, just

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Speaker 2: being able to steal work, so you know, you appreciate

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Speaker 2: it in the long run, But I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you know, Like you said, they started destroying all our

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Speaker 2: now it's come to the point that we don't even

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Speaker 1: And then that's fine because you know what, I look

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Speaker 2: A It's like, if you ain't if you ain't grammy material,

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Speaker 2: then you shouldn't even be thought of. And your music

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Speaker 1: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: If it ain't grammy status, then we don't even want

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Speaker 2: gonna kill the rap of shows or whatever. Let somebody

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Speaker 2: else go put that shit off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this shit is an opportunity, though, bro, because I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now, we got a chance to

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Speaker 3: kind of put our money where our mouth feels, right,

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Speaker 3: because I look at it like this, Okay, y'all not

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Speaker 1: Who would say we can't have our own you feel

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying?

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Speaker 3: Like all of these hip hop media outlets like you

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Speaker 3: all these people now, right, go go back to where

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Speaker 3: people from the actual and I'm not gonna say complexes

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Speaker 3: from the culture dog because a lot of these people dog,

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Speaker 3: I think out outside of all hip hop maybe a

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Speaker 3: lot of these companies are owned by white people. Dog

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Speaker 3: like corporations, you know what I mean, where somebody may

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Speaker 3: have bought it like ten fifteen years ago and they

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Speaker 3: still run the same. Now it looks black, and it

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Speaker 3: looks it's that, but it's a business. There's a bunch

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Speaker 3: of white folks up there running that shit, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if and if somebody like B E. T

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Speaker 2: their scheduling, then what makes you think somebody like that

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be on the cheap scale because if they

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Speaker 2: pulling out that means you know, sponsorship was.

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Speaker 3: Getting low and boo boo for it. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 3: guarantee you probably on them shows. They was probably spending

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Speaker 3: any wherebos there was probably like five to ten million

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Speaker 3: like you said, everyone every year is getting they pulling

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Speaker 3: money out all this year, there ain't gonna be five,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be three.

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Speaker 1: This year it ain't gonna be three. It's gonna be two.

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Speaker 2: And to the point where they like, oh, we're not

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Speaker 2: finna go spend a million dollars on to celebrate no

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Speaker 2: hip hop ship put some niggas on stage to performances.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time is half fast. You know, there

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Speaker 2: might be some confrontations and ship to which.

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Speaker 1: We are always having.

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Speaker 2: You know, it gives a bad look, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just it, you know, you know, you know people,

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Speaker 2: I guess people look for a real show and people

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Speaker 2: like I haven't watched the BG Hit Bop Awards, and

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Speaker 2: time I watched it.

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Speaker 3: So when you know what the thing is, I'm a

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Speaker 3: missing dog. Was it water down sometimes?

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00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

439
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 3: But I thought it was important man to see catch

440
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 3: like bust the rhymes get his Legends Awards. You know

441
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 3: what I mean, I was looking forward to see you

442
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: because I was like, they gonna call it homie up there.

443
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: Pretty soon they got to call you.

444
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: I know for stuff like that. That's official, definitely for

445
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 2: shit like that. But I don't know. I mean, as

446
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: an executive, how would you feel if you were in

447
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: control or some shit and a motherfucker told you you

448
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: had to cut the fact? So where you're finnah, cut

449
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: it at if you sit step there in that corporate

450
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: building with that suit and tier on, still like you

451
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: gotta get up and go, you know, do your thing.

452
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: You know you you out of that now you were

453
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: on this side, and the motherfucker like, okay, still, we

454
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: just hired you. You about to run ship. First thing

455
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: you need to do is you need to cut the

456
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 2: fat here. So what you propose? Yeah, and you can

457
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 2: only do the show. So like I'm gonna tell you this,

458
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: on the low end, the least you gonna probably be

459
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: able to get away with spinning. And even then you

460
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: have to skial down a lot.

461
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 3: It's maybe two million dollars right right, and that's gonna

462
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: look scale down as hill. There may not be as

463
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: many flights out here, It may not be the black

464
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: car service, you know what I mean. The war showed

465
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: the ceremonies and the parties and all that other package.

466
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: Who you gonna get who you gonna get to do

467
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: that now? Because you know how and mighty motherfucker is

468
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh no, I need car service, I

469
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 2: need this. I need you know, top floor this hotel.

470
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 2: I got a counterorige of about ten people that need

471
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 2: to come. Plus I need like twenty tickets.

472
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 3: Hey, it's gonna get real, ghet them real quick. You

473
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

474
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: Where lockhalluck be piling out like, oh no, I can't

475
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: do that because instead of staying at this, you know,

476
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: because whereas before they may put somebody at Larmitage, you know,

477
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: out in Hollywood right.

478
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: Somewhere really you know, somewhere real tight right now. Shit,

479
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: you damn that we have to put motherfuckers in the

480
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: motel six.

481
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be had to comfort then, nigga, you

482
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: get your little get your little complimented and rebreakfast in

483
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: the morning, and.

484
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: Jay gonna have to have a room with y'all exact

485
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: y'all that free breakfast before the clock, you know, yeah,

486
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: before tad you get that freak out of that, or

487
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: get you some powdered eggs, little orange juice, make you

488
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: under waffles in that bag.

489
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: They can flip it over, take it up to your robe.

490
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: You all good? You got just talking ship man boy?

491
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: Now keeping that maybe they felt like before we started

492
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: doing that, it just killed the whole ship. And that's

493
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: been to save us what a couple of million every

494
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: year from not putting that shot.

495
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: And it's gonna save on nothing, losing no potential sponsors

496
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: because this is just the facts. Now. I hate saying it,

497
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: but whenever you put I'm trying to stop cursing. So

498
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: if you hear me say in words, I'm talking sing

499
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 3: and mea. You know, whenever nia's doing something, man, it's

500
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: always a chance that they gonna go left with something.

501
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: They don't care if it's live on TV. If they

502
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: got a chance and they got beef with so and so,

503
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: they go going in talk crazy, it might be a

504
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: whole melee on live TV. You can't do nothing about it. Now,

505
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: you don't lost a couple of million dollars of sponsorships

506
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 3: because people looking like this, like what the hell is this?

507
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: This is what I've been.

508
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it you know, not that not that

509
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: you know, it hasn't been you know, good show and

510
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: good performances. You know, I've heard a few things about

511
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: some people's performances, some of the Legacy Awards giving out whatever.

512
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: But you don't you don't hear, you don't you know,

513
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: you didn't hear and generate that vibe like it did.

514
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: And I don't want to keep talking about a certain

515
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: era of hip hop, but you know there was this

516
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: you don't there was a certain atmosphere.

517
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: O't know, kid?

518
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: You know shit? Who goes to the BT hip Hop Awards?

519
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: You know where do they hope half of that in Atlanta?

520
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: La? Where Where was the last one? Hell? Still shoot

521
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: the I think it won't won't say Atlanta. Has it

522
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: been there a few times? You know what?

523
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: This last one was in La? The BT hip Hop

524
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: Wars was in LA this year. I think it was

525
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: in Atlanta last year because they was talking about having

526
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: me and you come. Remember that the last minute they

527
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: were trying to get me and you to go down

528
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: there for that. Remember we talked about that ride. Pause

529
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: right quick? Somebody at my door, see your door, trying

530
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: to sell you something?

531
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's the worst ain't it.

532
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: You try to say, they're trying to sell you some shit, right,

533
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: and and the crazy shit is, motherfucker doesn't been here

534
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: a thousand times already, so soon as you look out

535
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: the door, you already know what they about.

536
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: And they try to run a different story. We're gonna

537
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: be doing some.

538
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: Work down the street in the neighborhood, so we just

539
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: letting all the neighbors know. What are you letting me

540
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: know that you're finelna be doing work for him? You're

541
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: not a city worker, So what do you want?

542
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

543
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: And do you notice then he increasing in your best

544
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: See I said, dude, I don't want no solar panel.

545
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: Get up out of here. Oh well, I'm just trying

546
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: to see any get to asking about how much is

547
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: your bill been increased and all this other.

548
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: And all that stuff. Man, Yeah, get on. You know

549
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: what's crazy, though, bro, I bought something from somebody before.

550
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: I think I got some water from a dude before, right,

551
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: But the bill got way too expensive. It was way

552
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: more than what he initially said. For a few weeks

553
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: it was a cool price. Then they came back here

554
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: talking about they want two hundred dollars, but well for

555
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 3: your machine.

556
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Real.

557
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: I said, man, you know what, y'all take all this

558
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: ship with y'all right now. I put all that shit right,

559
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: y'all gonna take it right now, get up off my land,

560
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: you know, on some other stuff real quick. You know

561
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: Cardi B was messing around with homie Stephan Diggs right right,

562
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: they say she got a baby on the way. Now, Oh,

563
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: that ain't I don't even think that's on on our

564
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: on our that ain't even that ain't even something that

565
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: we even give a damn about. I don't you know

566
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: what's crazy about doing I'm gonna leading to something else. Right,

567
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: When you're a professional athlete, dog or rapper or whatever,

568
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: you can't make a move without the world being in

569
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: your business thog like you can't like like like like

570
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: let's say that he is the case right, Well, that's

571
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: just that kind I used to tell niggas that, you know, unfortunately,

572
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: you can't pick what comes with uh your your artistic

573
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: uh ship.

574
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: Right.

575
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: Some people choose to try to lay load. That's why

576
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: you you know, you you never see those big you know,

577
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: you might catch them coming out of coffee shopping every

578
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: now and then. But some people stay secluded. They don't

579
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: make themselves very accessible to people. Some people feel that

580
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: they need to because I want to stay in the

581
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 2: public's eye. I want to always be talked about, I

582
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: want to always be seen. But then they be the

583
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: first ones complaining that people are all up in their business. Well, unfortunately,

584
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: when you choose the status of celebrity, it's your choice

585
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: the way you move, right, m hm. Right, from the

586
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: biggest to the little, from the biggest to the minor.

587
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: Start right, It's all about the way you move. Here's

588
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: your choice. You you you You didn't see Michael Jackson

589
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: at the park down the street with the kids, right.

590
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh no?

591
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: And the thing about it, look back on it, Mike

592
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: had a lot of bros.

593
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Dud, you didn't see. You don't see. You know, you

594
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: only catch a glimpse of people that are very important

595
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: or like I want to say, it could be major. Mind,

596
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: you only catch glimpse of people when you want to

597
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: be accessed like that. Of course, you have to go

598
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: out in the public and you have to move around,

599
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: and you have to you know, whatever or whatever. But

600
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, every day living is every day living. If

601
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: you choose to start fucking with a nigga, then you

602
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: have to understand male or female that you know, eventually

603
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna come out who you who you fucking? So

604
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: some people choose to flock that. Some people try to

605
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: keep that under wraps until they can't keep it under

606
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: wraps anymore.

607
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you like this, homegirl got an

608
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: album coming out that's emotion. You know, Stefan Digg's a

609
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: well known player, you know what I mean, that's proo

610
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: or whatever, or maybe even somebody in her let's say

611
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: CARDI wanted to keep that private. Right now, somebody in

612
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: her record come you know about that. They're gonna leak

613
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: that information because hey, this is a good promo. Then

614
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: people don't give a damn about your personal life.

615
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: No, when they think it can help generate anything successful

616
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: in the dividends, then that's the name of the game.

617
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: When it comes to fame, you get me. You can't

618
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: act to be famous and not be accessible to the

619
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: fans that are putting you there. The people who are

620
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: working for the people to generate this income. You know,

621
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: it's their job to make you accessible, make you see,

622
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: make you her. You know, every little thing that we

623
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: need to do to keep you in the in the

624
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: public's eye right, that's going to help us eventually with income.

625
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: So you know, it might be your motherfucking person that

626
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: you think is your friend, a cool person at the company.

627
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gonna leak some shit because that's the way

628
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: we have to do shit.

629
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, man, it's like right now. It's

630
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: getting kind of out of control though, man, because like

631
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 3: you said, I don't even remember a time somebody having

632
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: a baby as being news. Now. It always was something

633
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: like when Beyonce was pregnant with Chazy's things. They go

634
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: mixing the things. Oh, they're about to have a baby.

635
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 3: America's couple about to have a baby. That's cool, dog,

636
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: But it's interesting.

637
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: It's interesting gossip and noise to people because you are

638
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: fucking nick nigga. You know, it's like street gossip or

639
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: street chat to motherfuckers. You get me, like like the

640
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: homegirl used to go with so and so, and then

641
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: now she fucking with the nigga.

642
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: You know this new nigga.

643
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 2: Everybody gonna chit chat and you know, and so that's

644
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: what it is.

645
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: You get me.

646
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: You was fucking this nigga, you have two three kids,

647
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: and next thing you know, y'all broke up.

648
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: And I don't know.

649
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: I guess you know people and people look at today's

650
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: society and think, like I guess if you split up

651
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: or whatever, that that's it you're getting. You're never supposed

652
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: to get with anybody else. You never supposed to do anything.

653
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: You know, You're just supposed to be indebted to this

654
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: person like this. Ain't the fucking sixties and fifties.

655
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 3: Well, you know what though? The thing about the public

656
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: though to eight to them in their mind she was

657
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: just with off set, right of course, And they don't.

658
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: They've really been broke up for a few years now.

659
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: Dog. They was hard.

660
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: They was having the ship go around with Vanessa and Kobe,

661
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: and how long am I know? Kobe being passed. It's like,

662
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: oh no, you can't go fucking nothing. Then you can't

663
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: go well, okay, so what I'm just, well, what am

664
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: I supposed to do?

665
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: Like, I'm gonna tell.

666
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: You, Like this, man, whether niggas like it or not,

667
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 3: somebody was tapping that ass on the low. Probably within

668
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: the year after that Nigga died.

669
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not gonna even put that on my

670
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 2: nigga's memory because I'm gonna say it ain't I don't

671
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: even I ain't even want to cross his path like that,

672
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: with that negativity.

673
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say you don't say, yeah, I'm not

674
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: gonna say after a year, because you know, you.

675
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 3: Know what, probably not at the year, but like eventually

676
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: somebody is because she's a human.

677
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: But like you said, if you know, if she choses

678
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: down the road to get involved with someone, that that's

679
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 2: that's her ship. If she chooses not to because she

680
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: feels obligated, that's another thing.

681
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: It don't make her necessarily a bad person. Now if

682
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: she them out like a week later or even a

683
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 3: year later, and she pup, you know, she should have

684
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: some type of discretion right now. But if she chooses

685
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: to move on with her life, she should be allowed to.

686
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. But like I said, that's

687
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: just say you like this. You got a woman you love, right,

688
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: I got a woman I love right If something happened

689
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: to me though, we still feel you know, we getting

690
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 3: up there, dog. But I don't want to read to

691
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: be by herself, like I don't. I'm gonna be gone.

692
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, I don't you know, I can't

693
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: say some women do some women don't. I know when

694
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: my mom got you know, separated, divorced from moth Pops.

695
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: She never remarried.

696
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: Now, did she have a boyfriend or two or whatever,

697
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: of course, but did she ever settle down and remarry

698
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: someone else? No, she never took that route. Yeah, I

699
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: don't thin, to be honest with you, I don't would either.

700
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

701
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: Some people some people would, some people wouldn't. I don't

702
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: know if this all depends on who the person is,

703
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: but you know what I'm saying, and that's just you know,

704
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: I guess that's all in if they ever came across

705
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: somebody who would, you know, make them feel a different

706
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: way than they were, and then some people feel like, nah,

707
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm good, you know, I'm just cool.

708
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you like this, man, I cannot wait

709
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: till twenty twenty five years over with.

710
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: This has been a year, dooxy of course? Well, pretty

711
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna.

712
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: Turn out to beef when this decade is probably it's

713
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 3: probably been the messiest decade the history of the planet.

714
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 2: Dog, it's been a it's been a rocky the twenties.

715
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: You get me, uh get We're at the COVID, you know,

716
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: and like you said, hip hop has taken, you know,

717
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: a turn and seems like you know, from waking up

718
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: with the news of canceling you know, one of the

719
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: big shows that we've had, like you said, we've we've

720
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: been we've been canceling out shit, you know, from from

721
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: they tried to cancel it from the beginning and the

722
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 2: inception and then think it was gonna last. We've been

723
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: around fifty years, but within that fifty years we have

724
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 2: been getting our collars tugged on.

725
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: You feel me.

726
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: You know a lot of the hip hop shows showcase

727
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: the artists and their records and their videos, and you know,

728
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: the puppet ups and the rap cities and Yo n

729
00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: TV raps and the basements and you know, all of

730
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: our show, all that shit had its run, right, shall

731
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: shoot you?

732
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Now?

733
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 3: Do I think it's gonna come back? You you know

734
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: where I think we are now? Eight I think we're

735
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 3: in this weird era, right, you've ever seen that show?

736
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: My wife watched this show all the time. I don't

737
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: know what this. I don't know if this is a

738
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: YouTube show or what. But these people don't here popping balloons.

739
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

740
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: You've seen that they got this thing. My wife be

741
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: watching it where it's like, you know, you come out there,

742
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: introduce yourself and it maybe five or six women. If

743
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: they pop their balloon, that mean they're not interested in you.

744
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, clips on on all that and that man.

745
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: From what I understand though, that show generates millions of dollars. Now, yeah,

746
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure now the dope Partly, I wish I'd have

747
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: thought of that motherfucker because they they probably got two

748
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 3: cameras out and that motherfucker some people with balloons. It's

749
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: gonna come for free anyway, because everybody want to try

750
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: to be famous nowadays.

751
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: Right, of course, they got a.

752
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: Dude my wife told me that be on there cussing

753
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: women out and talk them crazy. He's been on the

754
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: show maybe five or six times, he said it. Don't

755
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: never get picked by nobody. So he's become a part

756
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: of the cast, so to speak. The messiest dude, Right,

757
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 3: does he gonna talk shit about the women like when

758
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: they don't pick him up, Papa balloon on him. Most

759
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 3: guys are nice, right, most women are nice on that,

760
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 3: they're not really rude. But you've got some people in

761
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 3: there that ignorance. Hell, now, think about that they probably

762
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: spend It probably cost them two hundred dollars to take

763
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: that show, right, if that right, and they're making all

764
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: this money just from that, right. I think we in

765
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: this era dog to where yeah, we probably go get

766
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 3: a hip hop show again, probably have some stuff like

767
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: the basement and stuff like that, you know, the YOEMTV

768
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 3: raps type of stuff, but low budget stuff, independent stuff.

769
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: I think it's going back to the underground. Dog, It's

770
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 3: going back to the underground, And I think I know

771
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: for sure I want to be a part of that shit.

772
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: I think I got some ideas I may not be

773
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: able to I think trying to do in a war

774
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: so it's real ambitious. I'm not gonna try that because

775
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: that's that. Do you think that has to do with

776
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: the resurgence of a lot of old school artists, veterans

777
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: releasing projects, the fact that they you know what, man,

778
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: it's a possibility, right, I know. One of the things

779
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: always talked to you about it. I never did like

780
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: the idea of just relegating a dude back to the

781
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 3: record he put out twenty years ago, because I've heard

782
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: you know, I don't get me wrong. For the most part,

783
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: I've heard the ogs when they put up their new records,

784
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 3: they sound cool, you know what I mean. Some of

785
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: them are good, some of them are actually good. Some

786
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: of them don't sound that good. But I think that

787
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you can put an age on a

788
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: rapper dog because it's like this. It's not like football

789
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: or bad basketball, where you're talking about somebody's you know,

790
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: somebody's whole style being you know, totally depending upon their

791
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: physical attributes. Right right now, if you had to go

792
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: out as a rapper, I would imagine that Bust the

793
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 3: rhymes at the age of seventy, when he turned seventy,

794
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: he's not gonna be able to go on stage and

795
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: do the stuff that twenty two year old Bus and

796
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 3: Bus did, but he could probably walk there and still

797
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: rock and crowd right all the stuff that they doing,

798
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: all the moving around and stuff him is splippy doing.

799
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 3: Even when I last saw a Buster on the Reward Show,

800
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: his he rocked it, but he was sweating like a motherfucker. Yeah,

801
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: you know, he was up there put me in some work.

802
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 3: He was sweating, dog. You know, he had this costume on.

803
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 3: He was up there sweating. His look his head dripping

804
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: down and stuff. You know, what I'm saying it is

805
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: just like.

806
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: Hey, knock out shit and I don't do all that,

807
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: and I get on stage and any mother fucking tell

808
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: you touring Japan, Europe, you know touring. You know on

809
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: the eight you're doing thirty forty five minutes, sixty minute shows.

810
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be in.

811
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: You got to be in shape, you gotta be healthy,

812
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: you gotta be all of that because that shit will

813
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: take a toll on you at the heat. You in,

814
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: you feel me, you got you got twenty five. No

815
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: more running around sipping forty ounces all night, fucking around.

816
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Clubs and broads and shit.

817
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: Nigga niggas be trying to get off the stage and

818
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: back to the room and rest up, because that's a lie.

819
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, everybody I've seen that was brand new, that

820
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: winning the road at first, always giving them first five nights, right,

821
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 3: you know everybody else going back to them to their room,

822
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 3: go to sleep because they know you go hear that

823
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: at three in the morning. You know what I'm saying,

824
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 3: Three thirty in the morning, four o'clock in the morning, right,

825
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: so by the time you look at the back of

826
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: your hourley is right, they knock on the door for

827
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: you to go to the next city.

828
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: Right.

829
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: I always look at the little young homies, right, they

830
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: running around. They's doing this, they chasing this and that.

831
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: Man.

832
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: I got the girl from the fact she comes over, like, man,

833
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 3: you better go to sleep. You don't know who that

834
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 3: chick is. Then you get a story. Man, I got robbed,

835
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: they stole this from me, or somebody go get left

836
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: and miss the bus. Because I tell people. I tell

837
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: my artists all the time. I say, man, listen, if

838
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: you not the main artist and you get that niggas heype. Man,

839
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: if you not on this buss. If you not, if

840
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 3: you're not here at five point thirty when that bus

841
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 3: put off, then you going to take you a little

842
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: for damn money, Get you a ticket and go on.

843
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 2: Old I thought I used to do to bath and

844
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 2: chill and there. I used to just slide they tickets

845
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: under the door and they would they would get there

846
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: the next day. Because I used to get like, we

847
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 2: gotta get up out of here, so shit. I knock

848
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: on the nigga's door. They wouldn't answer. Knock on it again,

849
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: they don't answer. Call the room, they don't answer. I'm like, okay,

850
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: let me slide to these tickets up under the door.

851
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 3: Now today, you ever get an attitude with you because

852
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: you had to bounce No, not at all.

853
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: No two because I used to tell they knew me,

854
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 2: they knew that I'm going back to my room and

855
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 2: going to sleep. Y'all can't hang out through what y'all

856
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: gotta do. But y'all know we leave it that five

857
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: and no more. Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you I'm

858
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 2: not missing the plane, especially especially when it's time to

859
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: go back to LA and then on the road for

860
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: about three weeks. Man, please, Man, I'm.

861
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 3: Gonna tell you this because age you are messed around

862
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: and all the money. See, people don't understand the dynamic

863
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: the economics of the show either.

864
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Right, So.

865
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: You're going to Japan, You're going to go do fifteen cities. Right,

866
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 3: Let's say you getting just for the sake of number,

867
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: you get them ten thousand and shu. Right, you're really

868
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: only getting five a show because they gave you the

869
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: deposits on the show when they first booked the motherfucker

870
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: six months ago or whatever. Right, so you got you

871
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: on the man, you got fifty thousand dollars that you're

872
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 3: gonna make off the show and the rest of that. Now,

873
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: then you got your merchandise. Let's say you're doing a

874
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 3: thousand night of merchandise. That's another ten, right, there's just

875
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 3: hypothetical numbers. Right, So you got sixty thousand dollars due

876
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: time that you miss a plane to go back to

877
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: the States. That promoter not about the front of the bill.

878
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: He gone all that taking you up to eating all that,

879
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: he gone, He's on you gonna have to hold Yeah,

880
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 3: you missed your plane. Hopefully you can get a standby.

881
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: But then anything after that, hotel, food, all of that,

882
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: that's that's only old bill. Yeah, after the show was over,

883
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 3: last show, that's it from over out of here. Yeah, man,

884
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,280
Speaker 3: because I remember, man, the first time, the first first

885
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: time Dazz every went to Japan was with me, right,

886
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: so you know it was a doozy. We took the

887
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: homie DJ head. This is his first time in Japan.

888
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: He DZ for glasses, his glasses, first time about the country.

889
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 3: It's dazz It ain't his first time about the country,

890
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: but it's his first time in Japan. Even with all

891
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: the CDs in death Row, he had never been in

892
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: Japan yet, right, so he there the Homie big a

893
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: is there. Right, We all there. The one thing I

894
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: will give dazz is he held up, hele be up

895
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: in the morning. He gonna beat you in the lobby, right.

896
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: He gonna be there till he's professional. Right, he gonna

897
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 3: beat you in the lobby.

898
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Right.

899
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 3: So we down there, man, we're doing our thing now.

900
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: The thing I tell people about Japan, there's two places

901
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 3: you don't play at. You don't mess around in Japan,

902
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: and you don't mess around in Dubai. That you're not

903
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: an Arab em rights dog. You mess around out there,

904
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: you throw some trash from the ground, You're going to

905
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: jail right right. To go out there trying to trying

906
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: to mess with one of they women, they gonna get

907
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 3: your ass. They don't want nobody if you're not a Muslim,

908
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: they don't want you messing around with their people.

909
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: Right. So we go to the airport. Man.

910
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: We in Japan. It's raining like a mothersucker, man, and

911
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 3: Dad's got about thirty thousand yen in his pocket. You know,

912
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: he's got a bunch of money, you know, money busting

913
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: out of his pockets and socks and all kinds of stuff.

914
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: This nigga takes an umbrella, Like you know, they got

915
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 3: the little stuff that they selling them. The thing I

916
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 3: see him when he's doing he walk around there and

917
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 3: two umbrellas sticking in this thing real quick, and I'm thinking, now,

918
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 3: this niggas got a gang of money in his bracket.

919
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 3: Why he just didn't buy an umbrella?

920
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: Do we know?

921
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: And I told him, I said, man, listen, all of

922
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 3: us are on the same manifest together. That's what people

923
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: don't know. If me and you go over there together

924
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: eight they have a list over a customs with me

925
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: and everybody that's in our party. They all ought the tickets,

926
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 3: do the same thing. They're together. If you go do

927
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: some dumb shit, they coming to grab me. Ain't none

928
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 3: of us going back on that plane. It ain't like

929
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: we could say, well that was on him, we leaving. No,

930
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna be there in trouble, right, So I told man,

931
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: when he did that, man, I went to the other

932
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: I've moved to me a whole nother section. I said, man,

933
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to have nothing to do with this man,

934
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 3: because if we get in trouble. I was so nervous, man,

935
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: because I don't think they understand. Have you ever been

936
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: to jail overseas hell. Nah, you ain't trying to go.

937
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: Dog.

938
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, I've had homies do the dumbest

939
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: shit in the world. I've had homies try to smoke

940
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: weed on a plane. This nigga, dass we going to Osaka.

941
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: That's when I first saw them pins, when they first

942
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: came out with the little pins right here. Yeah, that

943
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 3: dads have put a whole cofft on his head and

944
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: take it down, smoke coming all out of his nose

945
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: and stuff.

946
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Man.

947
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: The people looking at they ain't saying nothing. I'm like, man,

948
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: this nigga is really trying to get us put in

949
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: jail over here. Man. So all the little brigs you know,

950
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 3: made to be gone so you can't afford to stay,

951
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 3: to be staying no country, dog, I like honestly, after

952
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: a while eight I got to where, when I was

953
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 3: doing tours and stuff, man, I started really limiting the

954
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: amount of homies that you could take on a trip.

955
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 3: I said, man, listen, I ain't trying to police your ship,

956
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: but if you want to bring somebody outside of your

957
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: DJ and maybe one other person, which is usually something

958
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 3: like like a cube, go he go take his girl right,

959
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,919
Speaker 3: but most dudes do you know, you talk about cub

960
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 3: as a season dude though, right, you are season gut.

961
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 3: When you start talking about people bringing a bunch of people,

962
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: you're responsible for them people.

963
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 2: Bro.

964
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to.

965
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: You know, you have to start like you know, once

966
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: you you know, like once you get when you first

967
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: get started, you know, everything exciting and new, and you

968
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: want to take the homies and y'all go around the

969
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: country and you know, you just want to be representing

970
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 2: that hood and all whatever. But as you look, sure

971
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 2: you start, you know, find me out or more socialized

972
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: than others. Right, you know it was just fake cause

973
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: some of the homies just don't give a fuck you

974
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 2: get me, and that's and that ain't they fault, you know,

975
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: it's just that's the homie nigga. He always ready to

976
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: go on, you know, on point, like don't give a

977
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 2: fuck about rules or none of that shit. Fuck the establishment,

978
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: fucking the police and all that type of shit. And

979
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: then you got niggas who you know, man, we you know,

980
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: we're in a different state, we're in a different country.

981
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: It's different rules. Oh yeah, nigga, we we we you know,

982
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: So you start taking niggas you know, you know down

983
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: the road who you feel like like niggas who go

984
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: on the road with me.

985
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: Now they ain't like.

986
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: You know, little homies out the hood who ain't never

987
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: been before. I'm taking niggas who I done took on

988
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: the road for the last fifteen years. You get there, well,

989
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:13,479
Speaker 2: you know, mature niggas, mature, mature, grown ass niggas who

990
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: ain't scared the tump if it's time the thump. But

991
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: God sens to know, I'm not finna be smoking in

992
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: the hotel lobby or some shit like that.

993
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, because it could cost you money. Because

994
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: think about it like this. Let's say you just at

995
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 3: the beginning of a tour, right and everything is on

996
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: a tight schedule. You miss around and miss a plane,

997
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: you might have to cancel the show the next night,

998
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

999
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 2: That's why I always gave the tickets to the travel dude.

1000
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: And if we have to bounce, leave their tickets at

1001
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: the front desk or slide them under their door, and

1002
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get up out of here because I

1003
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: can't afford to miss the show.

1004
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: They can't, you get me, because don't.

1005
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 3: Make them responsible. For paying any differences in their flight

1006
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: or whatever it's it's on there.

1007
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: If they gotta miss a flight or they got usually

1008
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: they go stand by, and usually that take a couple hours, right,

1009
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: because yeah, you can pay and get on that guaranteed flight.

1010
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: But most of the time, no, they not gonna pay

1011
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: because most of the time they get per diem for

1012
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: being on the road, so they don't want to spend

1013
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: their per dem So they just gonna go stand by

1014
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: until they can get on the flight.

1015
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: If that happens to be two or three hours later,

1016
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: then so be it.

1017
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: But I can't miss that original flight because like you said,

1018
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: there are always things set up. You know, you gotta

1019
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: get in town and next morning at ten o'clock, then there's.

1020
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: A let's here's a breakfast.

1021
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: Then you gotta go buy a record store, and you

1022
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: gotta go by the radio station. Then you gotta go

1023
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: buy another radio station, and then you gotta go do

1024
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 2: an interview or two. You know, it ain't just you know,

1025
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 2: that's what that's what touring used to be for me.

1026
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: When I used to go on tour back in the days,

1027
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 2: it was a list of things when you got in

1028
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 2: the town. So, like I said, you can't or be late.

1029
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: I'm not tripping if you know. Like I said, I

1030
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 2: took the homies because shit, we getting about the hood,

1031
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: and you know I can afford.

1032
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 3: Let them experience that shit with you. Let me not

1033
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: to cut you off, bro, But did you ever have

1034
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: anybody that you just had to cut off? Like I said,

1035
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: eventually with tarring, you start everything switches up, right. I'm

1036
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: not taking I'm not probably dealing with the same you

1037
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 3: fot niggas that I was dealing with when I was

1038
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen nigga on our time forty, I'm dealing with

1039
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: different niggas, still homies.

1040
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 2: But niggas have got lines and shit. Niggas just ain't

1041
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 2: in the hood hanging and banging no more. Niggas got

1042
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 2: obs and families and workings. So now you have to

1043
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: adapt that you meet new people and and and that's

1044
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: when your roster may change. You feel me like, oh shit,

1045
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: new charity, dude, new DJ.

1046
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 3: New.

1047
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: I can't take me who I was taking, you know,

1048
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, because now he got a wife and

1049
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: grandkids and got a business and I can't be calling

1050
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: him up.

1051
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: Nigga.

1052
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: We finla hit the road for two weeks, nigga, like, huh,

1053
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: I got it going nowhere.

1054
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: You know what I you know what I figured out

1055
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 3: would have though. You learn a lot, right the road

1056
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: is where you learn your lessons. I remember, man, we

1057
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 3: was out of England and we had a week layover,

1058
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: like we was on this MTV based tour, you know

1059
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: the MTV base right right, and uh we were staying

1060
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: in a cool spot, right, But it was when I

1061
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: tell you the time we was in with real boring

1062
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: dog and it was windy and rain and all the

1063
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: time you were here this bill like like a block

1064
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: and spell like bing bing and it cirt. It was

1065
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: kind of spooky a little bit, right, you're here to

1066
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 3: win and stuff. You'd be like, damn, lights might go

1067
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 3: off for a minute.

1068
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1069
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: You be in there like thinking like what the hell

1070
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: is going on? So I'm out there with Kochie he

1071
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 3: get the tripping on his girl? Does he called? And

1072
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: then she not? You know you got some dudes that's

1073
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 3: like go call and like check up on they people

1074
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: all the time every five minutes, right right. He talked about, man,

1075
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 3: let's go home, and I'm like, dude, we like we

1076
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 3: gotta be back here in a week, right, like like,

1077
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 3: this is a Tuesday. We got to be back here

1078
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 3: by Sunday. We leaving Sunday. This dude convinces me. I'm like, well,

1079
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: the record company paying for this stuff. So we tell

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Speaker 3: them to get us some tickets back to La. We

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Speaker 3: go back to La, get to stay here all the

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Speaker 3: two days and then go back. Right, Man, I got

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Speaker 3: my check right, and I'm looking at all my statement

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Speaker 3: right and it charges me eight thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this y'all showing me my bread?

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Speaker 3: Like, well, that flight did y'all wanted to take that

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Speaker 3: same day that y'all did y'all wanted to just have

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Speaker 3: to go back home?

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Speaker 1: You paying for that? Oh definitely, never again.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I started telling people, Man, if you've got to go

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Speaker 3: home and stuff, you lose yourself, you pay for that home.

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Speaker 3: If you got to go back early, you take care

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Speaker 3: of of yourself.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: But I think I think it's right now. Dog touring

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Speaker 3: is way. It is probably the most important thing for

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Speaker 3: artists right now with a magic man, especially with the

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Speaker 3: way this streaming shit is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mean for any artists you want to do shows,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's first, it's your libili that you want

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Speaker 2: to connect with fans. But you know, that's uh, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, you know, depending on what the situation you

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Speaker 2: got with your label or streaming or whatever. But it's

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Speaker 2: a it's another source of income. And when you're an artist,

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Speaker 2: you got to generate all kinds of streams of revenue,

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Speaker 2: whether you're doing shows, putting out records, whether you're streaming, podcasting,

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Speaker 2: selling merchandise, you know, doing whatever. You got to generate

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Speaker 2: a few streams of income to stay valuable in the

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Speaker 2: hip hop area today.

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Speaker 3: Well, that concludes another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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Speaker 3: the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for

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Speaker 3: The Gangst the Chronicles podcasts Norman Steel, Aaron M.

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Speaker 1: C a Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Our visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and audio editors

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